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The Spirit of Halloween · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark Review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a former Hallmark hater. On today's episode, we're discussing The
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  Speaker 1: Spirit of Halloween, the final movie in the Fall Into
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  Speaker 1: Love lineup, which originally aired on Saturday, October 10th, 2026
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  Speaker 1: on the Hallmark channel and is now streaming on Hallmark +.
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  Speaker 1: as well there. So you know what to look forward
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  Speaker 1: to each and every weekend. I know. I think sometimes
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  Speaker 1: with the onslaught of movies, new premieres, it can kind
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  Speaker 1: of be overwhelming for the viewer of like what's coming
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  Speaker 1: this weekend and Who's in it? Who's in it? If
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  Speaker 1: I missed it, where can I find it? It's overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: for me. No kidding. You guys should see our shared
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  Speaker 1: Google calendar. It's out of control. Out of control. I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell you something. Remember last week how I
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  Speaker 1: said I had fall fatigue? Yes. I think this week's
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  Speaker 1: movie made me a little excited. It kind of cured
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit. It did it? Yeah. I have
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  Speaker 1: good things to say about this movie. I'm so excited
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  Speaker 1: to hear that. Are you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because, you know, you hate Halloween, so... Well, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I don't like about Halloween, just to be clear.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like dressing up in costume. I find it humiliating.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't like scary things. Strong words. Humiliating. Why?
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  Speaker 1: It feels like a lot of pressure. I feel embarrassed
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  Speaker 1: when I'm in costume. Hmm. A few years ago, my
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  Speaker 1: neighbor had a 50th birthday party and it was 90s
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  Speaker 1: hip hop themed and you were to dress in theme.
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  Speaker 1: I remember. And I ordered, I'm sure you remember, it
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  Speaker 1: was like a, I don't know how to describe it,
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  Speaker 1: like a brightly colored workout sweatshirt situation. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Like that plastic material that was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Was that you touching the
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  Speaker 1: fabric or are you doing a turntable? That's not me
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  Speaker 1: being a DJ, no. So I was like, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was on, it was the vibe. Okay, but? Every other,
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  Speaker 1: and when I say every other, I mean every other
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  Speaker 1: woman at the party was in a white tank top
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  Speaker 1: and overalls. Every single one.
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  Speaker 2: One.
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  Speaker 1: So you felt you stood out in a bad way? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Although were the tables turned, I'd be like, oh, look,
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  Speaker 1: that person's costume is like unique. Yes. But I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to fade into the background. And the
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  Speaker 1: funny thing is I was wearing overalls. My husband's like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: like it just looks like an outfit, right? Like it
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  Speaker 1: didn't look like a costume. He was dressed like one
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  Speaker 1: of the boys to men boys. with like a what
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  Speaker 1: is that whatever baseball hat they wear and then the
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  Speaker 1: philly shirt and tie yeah shirt and tie yeah yeah
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  Speaker 1: yeah now i remember i couldn't remember like what their
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  Speaker 1: what their look was yeah and i mean i think
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  Speaker 1: it's only an if you know you know it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily look costumey looks like maybe he came home from
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  Speaker 1: work and threw on a hat but was he in
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  Speaker 1: like a denim shirt and denim jeans i don't think
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  Speaker 1: it was a i don't remember which shirt it was
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  Speaker 1: i'm sure we have a picture But anyway, I was
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  Speaker 1: humiliated the entire time. I'm sorry. I just don't like
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  Speaker 1: dressing up. I feel like there's a giant sign above
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  Speaker 1: my head. That says, I'm uncomfortable. That says, like, look
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  Speaker 1: at me. She's trying too hard. Anyway, deep thoughts with
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  Speaker 1: Megan and Wendy this morning. But you're right. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily the biggest fan of Halloween. This was so fun.
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  Speaker 1: As you recall, I loved Hall Out the Halloween last year.
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  Speaker 1: My husband and I rewatched it last week. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: need to do that still. And it hit. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was laughing out loud. It was a good time.
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  Speaker 1: This really, what a way to end, not only Fall
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  Speaker 1: Into Love, but the final non-Christmas movie of the season.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I think we went out with a bang.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want a synopsis?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Everly Stone, BTW. Everly is such a great name. Such
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  Speaker 1: a great name. Don't you think so? Yes. Everly Stone,
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  Speaker 1: Ebenezer Scrooge, but yes. Oh, I didn't make that connection. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Everly Stone is very firmly anti-Halloween. That is until she
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  Speaker 1: is visited by three friendly yet spooky spirits who help
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  Speaker 1: her rediscover her true self and see what she's been
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  Speaker 1: missing all along. Well, first of all, you need three
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  Speaker 1: spooky spirits to come visit you. Me? Yeah. You need
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  Speaker 1: it for Halloween. I need it for Christmas. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it was less about her being a Halloween
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  Speaker 1: Scrooge and more about her needing to like fix her life.
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  Speaker 1: Like she had turned away from all of the important
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  Speaker 1: connections in her life because she had been betrayed by
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  Speaker 1: her best friend and her fiance. Fair. So do you
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  Speaker 1: think this synopsis, I did not write it, is inaccurate?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's inaccurate. I mean, it is about
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  Speaker 1: her being a holiday Scrooge, but I don't, think that
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  Speaker 1: is why the spirits visit her. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 1: the lesson. They're not like, you must love Halloween. No,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. That's not the lesson here. For sure. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure that either of us needs three spirits to
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  Speaker 1: visit us. I'm not putting that out in the universe.
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  Speaker 1: I am. You think you're a person who needs to
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  Speaker 1: fix your life? Mm-hmm. In what way? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt... They're gonna be like, start a laundry schedule, Wendy.
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  Speaker 1: My laundry is on point. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Um.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I'm a control freak. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: get into it. If you want to hear deeper thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: come join us on Patreon. I can't wait to hear
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  Speaker 1: what you think needs to be fixed about your life.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Jeff Beasley directed The Spirit
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  Speaker 1: of Halloween, and he's got four more movies coming to
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark before the end of the year. His next one
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  Speaker 1: will be next weekend, kicking off Countdown to Christmas. Nicole
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  Speaker 1: Baxter wrote the script. Nicole isn't talked about enough. As
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  Speaker 1: a writer. I agree. She previously wrote The Way to You.
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  Speaker 1: She adapted Adventures in Love and Burning, An Unexpected Valentine,
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  Speaker 1: Blind Date Book Club, The Presence of Love. These are
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  Speaker 1: great movies. The Way to You was this year, wasn't it? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be in my top five. Oh, interesting. Spoiler, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just realizing that it should have been more of
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  Speaker 1: a contender for my top five. It was hard to choose.
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  Speaker 1: Come back for that episode. Megan Ori stars as Everly.
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  Speaker 1: Megan is best known for her role as Abby on
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  Speaker 1: Chesapeake Shores. She recently appeared on Sullivan's Crossing and in
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  Speaker 1: last year's A Christmas Angel Match. Kevin McGarry stars as Bo.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen Kevin on Hallmark outside of When Calls
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  Speaker 1: the Heart since 2025, where he starred in Villa Amore. Amore.
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  Speaker 1: He will star in the forthcoming Countdown to Christmas movie,
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  Speaker 1: The Christmas Eve Feast. You know, you talked about the
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  Speaker 1: onslaught of information we get about the Christmas season from Hallmark.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes I see the movies, the titles of the
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  Speaker 1: movies that are coming up. And I'm like, that's brand
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  Speaker 1: new information. I've never heard that title before. And so
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  Speaker 1: I've been interacting with them many, many times over the
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  Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. I'm shaking my head. Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I have to like check and double check. Did they
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  Speaker 1: change the name of this? I don't know this name
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  Speaker 1: of this movie. Is that a real movie? Yep. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Julia Schroeder appears as Tracy in true Jeff Beasley fashion.
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  Speaker 1: Tracy appeared in two of his previous movies, Christmas on
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  Speaker 1: Call and A Carol for Two. Derek McGrath plays the
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  Speaker 1: ghost of the past. You guys, the way I had
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  Speaker 1: to look up the names because they didn't call them
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  Speaker 1: like ghost of Halloween past. He plays the ghost of
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  Speaker 1: the past with 134 acting credits. Derek has a deep resume,
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  Speaker 1: but not a ton of hallmark work outside of a
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  Speaker 1: few episodes of Good Witch. Christine L. Wynn plays Ghost
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  Speaker 1: of the Present. Christine has just 28 acting credits and
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  Speaker 1: appeared in seven episodes of The Bold Type. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't remember her from The Bold Type. That's another Girls
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  Speaker 1: Gone Hallmark Universe crossover. I feel like that might be
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  Speaker 1: due for a rewatch for me. Yeah, I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: it holds up. I don't know. I loved that movie
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  Speaker 1: and that movie. I loved that series. And that really
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  Speaker 1: launched my adoration of Megan Fahey. Yeah, totally. You and
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  Speaker 1: everybody else. I know. It's not a unique thought, but
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  Speaker 1: I really like her. Lachlan Quornby plays Ghost of the Future.
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  Speaker 1: Lachlan recently starred in Hope Valley 1874 on Hallmark Plus,
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  Speaker 1: as well as the Hallmark miniseries Providence Fall in 2025. Hey, Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: what was your first impression of the spirit of Halloween?
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  Speaker 1: Everly needed three ghosts to realize Bo was into her.
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  Speaker 1: I figured it out in about seven seconds. Girl, wake up.
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  Speaker 1: Who knew all I needed in my life was Lachlan
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  Speaker 1: Cornby playing the comedic ghost of the future, who also
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  Speaker 1: happens to be seven feet tall? That's so funny. I
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  Speaker 1: looked up how tall he was. How tall is he?
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  Speaker 1: It's in my digi-see. The internet says he's 6'4. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that. God, I loved him
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  Speaker 1: in this role. I laughed out loud when he came
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  Speaker 1: on screen. When he appears on her couch, immediately it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: And he hasn't even said anything. I still look good.
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  Speaker 1: He makes all these references to how good he looks
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  Speaker 1: and how hot he is. And I loved it. You
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  Speaker 1: know what? This is Ryan's... His character reminded me, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to land for everybody,
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  Speaker 1: but in the movie Inside Out... In her brain, there's
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  Speaker 1: the fictional boyfriend character who's like, Riley, I would do
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  Speaker 1: anything for you. And at one point, they pile all
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  Speaker 1: the boyfriends up and they use them to launch themselves
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  Speaker 1: out of the memory land. Anyway, something about that semi-robotic
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  Speaker 1: hot guy, that's what he reminded me of. I'm into it.
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  Speaker 1: In the best way. Into it. That gets one plus
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  Speaker 1: star from me. He is at the top of my likes.
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  Speaker 1: When Everly calls him Mr. Ghost of Halloween Future and
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  Speaker 1: he goes, Grant, Mr. Ghost of Halloween Future is my dad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like on paper the greatest line, but I
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  Speaker 1: did laugh out loud. It's the delivery. It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's flexing. He's doing like a,
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  Speaker 1: what is it called? A curl? A curl with the pumpkin.
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, don't strain yourself. And he goes, that's
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  Speaker 1: the point. And I was like, are you freaking kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: His character in Hope Valley 1874 gets zero chance to
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  Speaker 1: be funny. And Providence Falls, I loved him in Providence Falls,
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  Speaker 1: but he's also not funny there. He's very like broody
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  Speaker 1: and romantic. I mean, way to let him run. I
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to talk about Jeff Beasley here in
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  Speaker 1: a second, or at least I am. But I think
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  Speaker 1: one thing that Jeff Beasley does really well is like
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  Speaker 1: he finds comedy. I mean, this is clearly a comedic movie,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's really great at drawing that out
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  Speaker 1: in people. Yeah. Can we talk about the other two
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  Speaker 1: ghosts as well? Gosh, please. I love them because all
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  Speaker 1: three of them were eccentric. The older... The ghost of
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  Speaker 1: the past, the older man, Derek McGrath. He was funny too.
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  Speaker 1: He was funny. And she calls him the ghost who
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  Speaker 1: looks like the old man from Up. Yes. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have this very kind of cool Gen
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  Speaker 1: Z ghost of present day. Yes. And I, who was
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  Speaker 1: very giving. I mean, when I talk about Gen Z,
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  Speaker 1: when she was like making heart hands and heart and like,
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  Speaker 1: I got you girl. And like, I just loved them.
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  Speaker 1: They were all so different, but also lovely. Yeah. They
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  Speaker 1: painted a full picture of everything Everly needed.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: When the Ghost of the Past, when they're on her
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  Speaker 1: college campus and Everly's in pajamas in a row, but
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  Speaker 1: she's like, nobody can see me, right? And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: get over yourself. Totally. I was like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Like the writing, Nicole Baxter, so good. Totally. Totally. For me,
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple of things. One, I think this is
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark's better attempts at a true Halloween movie. We have
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  Speaker 1: such a small catalog of Hallmark Halloween movies, and I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a reason to keep making more. Last year,
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  Speaker 1: it was Hall at the Halloween, which was fan-freaking-tastic. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. This one, I thought, is fantastic. Great.
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  Speaker 1: We also have October Kiss, which falls in that Halloween category.
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  Speaker 1: Haunted Wedding, kind of. Haunted Wedding, kind of. Also Jeff Beasley,
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  Speaker 1: but still in the spooky season vein. Yeah, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: let's keep adding to this category, this genre. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I also thought, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this was Jeff Beasley's doing, but this was truly
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  Speaker 1: a Halloween movie. We have ghosts, costumes, parties, spooky music,
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Also- The warm, like, autumnal color palette
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  Speaker 1: and soundtrack really set the mood. That's what, like, it
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  Speaker 1: has reeled me back into, I don't have fall fatigue now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: So... You mentioned Jeff. We need to talk about Jeff Beasley.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about him like he's our close personal friend.
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  Speaker 1: We have had him on the podcast and we have a,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a DM relationship with him on Instagram. He's
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  Speaker 1: just a good guy. But the thing is, he's really
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  Speaker 1: good at his job and he's really thoughtful about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I think where he shines is with an ensemble cast.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. And he even said in our interview that
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  Speaker 1: it's his favorite thing to do. And I think we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about ensemble casts that sometimes are done poorly sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: where these characters aren't fleshed out, where they just exist
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  Speaker 1: you know, to kind of reflect off the main characters.
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  Speaker 1: And that is not the case here. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: our ghosts each have their own distinct personality. We know Tracy,
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  Speaker 1: her assistant, her motivation and her challenges. And even her
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  Speaker 1: fiance gets like a, a wash. We get kind of
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  Speaker 1: who he is.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Bo and Everly, I think are really well done.
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  Speaker 1: We understand a lot about who Tracy's dad, not Tracy,
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  Speaker 1: about who Everly's dad is even from like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of short scenes. It's, it's, it's a skill to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do that. And of course that exists in
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  Speaker 1: the writing as well. Like that comes from Nicole to
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  Speaker 1: have written those characters, but to give them enough weight
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  Speaker 1: on screen that we care about them in 80 minutes
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  Speaker 1: is a talent. Yep. Agree. I want to even add
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  Speaker 1: to Nicole Baxter's writing bouquet here. I thought even like
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  Speaker 1: some smaller details that made it And specifically, they address, like,
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  Speaker 1: can they see us? Like, you know, Everly would ask, like,
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  Speaker 1: can they see us? Or there was questions about touching. Oh, uh-huh. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: these are kind of, you know, when we watch these
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  Speaker 1: movies that have, like, a magical realism to them or
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  Speaker 1: ghosts or whatever, and we always, like, dog on, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, did you see them dancing? And she was
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  Speaker 1: dancing by herself because there's a ghost there, but nobody
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  Speaker 1: else can see the ghost in the room. Like, it
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  Speaker 1: was addressed. Yes, like at the Halloween party. Yes. She
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  Speaker 1: was like, can they see you? And they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the veil between the worlds is thin. Yeah, your shadows. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so, like, nobody's even going to notice us here. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they asked the... In her writing, she asks the questions
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  Speaker 1: that the viewer is asking or that a person in
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  Speaker 1: that situation would be asking. Thank you. You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: can you touch things? Can you, like, are you corporeal, basically? Yes. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I love that. Like you said, adding to
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  Speaker 1: Nicole Baxter's bouquet, the writing, like, there are just so
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  Speaker 1: many great lines. I wrote down so many of them.
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  Speaker 1: When Tracy, the assistant... is talking about Beau and she says,
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  Speaker 1: set me ablaze, he can put me out any time.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, wow, like way to sneak that one in there.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Megan Ori and Kevin McGarry. Yes. Both
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  Speaker 1: totally work for me. I thought Everly has like, well, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Megan gives everything. everly enough edge without her she made
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  Speaker 1: her funny but not unpleasant because i think it's like
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  Speaker 1: a fine dance here because you could have made everly
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  Speaker 1: unlikable yeah and i think like in the original telling
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  Speaker 1: of this story like our main person is a bad
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  Speaker 1: person is unlikable she's not a bad person she's not
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  Speaker 1: unlikable right in scrooge yes so i thought it was
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  Speaker 1: well done i thought she played And she's really funny, too.
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  Speaker 1: She's inwardly bad, right? Like, I'm sorry. I'm just thinking
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  Speaker 1: about your question. Bad how? Well, that's what I mean
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  Speaker 1: to herself. Like, if you think about, like, the character
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  Speaker 1: of Ebenezer Scrooge, he's outwardly harmful. Like, he is harming
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  Speaker 1: the people around him. And that is a result of, right,
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  Speaker 1: his internalized heartbreak and all of this. But Everly, her bad,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm putting this in air quotes, behavior really only
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: affects her. Like, yes, it has blowback effects on Bo,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: who she, you know, like pushes away. And Tracy. Yes,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and Tracy, who she doesn't. But she's not mean to them. Right.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: She's just kind of like shut herself down. And as
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: a result, yes, it is harmful to the people around her.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: But I think she's, when you talk about her being like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: You're saying she's not a bad person. I do agree
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: with you. Her actions were more harmful to herself than others.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's a bad... No, that's what I'm saying.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's a bad person. I know, but
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't think her behavior was too terrible. I don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: think her behavior is too terrible either. I think what
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with is in the flaws of real people.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Like Ebenezer Scrooge is such an outsized villain that like...
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: The vision of him swimming in his gold is something
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that we use as a reference point because it's so
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: absurd the way he treats people. I think the character
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of Everly reflects the way real people behave. Yes. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: can't get out of my own head that I find...
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: her story very relatable. Yes. And so therefore, then my
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: next step is, am I bad? No. Do you know
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes. And then to answer your question,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you asked early, what do I need to fix about
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: my life? Well, this would be it because I do
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the same thing where I like shut other people. I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: make my world small. Yes, me too. So then does
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that make me like inherently a bad have bad behavior
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that I need to fix myself? I guess the answer
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: would be yes. And that's why I need three ghosts
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to come visit me. Okay. But then I'm sitting here
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: thinking like, once again, like I still think when it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: comes to her again, quote unquote, bad behavior, it's herself
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that she's harming, like changing her behavior. Like, Is she
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: supporting Tracy's career? No. But ultimately, as we see, the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: person who that's going to hurt is Everly. Like Tracy
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: is going to go on and have this success. costume
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: designing career. Right. Yeah. Like she's going to make her
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Tracy's going to make her own way. So she's not
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: ruining Tracy's life. Well, yes. And we see that Bo
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: goes on and has a very own family.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So the person who is hurt here is herself. So
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the question is, do you need to be visited by
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: three ghosts? Or do I already have the self-realization that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I should? Well, I mean, clearly. But I think the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: question is, I think it's really interesting that. When you.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Man, deep thoughts on Hallmark today. I know, but I just... Anyway,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: let's move on. Okay.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And I want to talk about Kevin McGarry, because we
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: haven't even talked about him. Yeah. He surprised me. You know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: we don't get him in a ton of movies. Yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember when I said it at the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: beginning of what... Oh, Villa Moore. I know a lot
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of people like that movie. I don't think I loved it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But God, I like to mess this guy up. I
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: really did, too. And I think because we're not Hardys. Like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you know, he spends a lot of his time over
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on When Calls the Heart. Yeah. Like, he and Aaron Krakow,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, don't get enough of an opportunity to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: break out of that role. I do think this is
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a nice, like, Hardy-Chessie crossover. Like, those fandoms are going
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to collide here. Oh, sure. But I agree with you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: We don't see... You and I don't see a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: of him. And I... I think I had said in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: our first impression episode that I wasn't entirely sure about
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: this pairing. And just because I didn't know enough. I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: also don't think we've seen enough of Megan Ori, if
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I'm being perfectly honest. Star of Chesapeake Shores, not a show.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I've only seen a couple episodes of that. This was
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the best I've ever seen her. She was Little Red
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Riding Hood in Once Upon a Time, so I know
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: her from that. Anyway, I enjoyed the pairing of them, too.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Kevin McGarry was a pleasant surprise. Me neither. Let's take
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back to talk our wishes.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Wendy, what did you wish for about this movie?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I only have two very small wishes. My first biggest
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: one is I wish I understood a little bit. bit
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: better what Everly wasn't understanding. I watched this movie twice
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: because I was like, what am I missing here? What
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: am I missing that Everly is missing? It's that exchange
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that happens when they're in the past and she's watching...
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Her college-aged self with Bo. It's that scene there where, like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Rux comes up and, like, she gets interrupted. And I'm like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: what did I miss here? Why was she not understanding
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that Bo was, this is where Bo was, like, interested
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in her and she didn't realize it in the moment
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: at all? And then for the 20 years later. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: isn't that kind of like a classic, like, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: this person is like, do you have an answer to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that question of like what she was missing? Because I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think she says it later on is like she was
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: so afraid of what she might lose in acknowledging his
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: affection for her that she wasn't willing to take that risk.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe I missed that too. I do think she says it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I do think you're right in that it paints a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: picture that she's fully unaware of his affection for her.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how you could be. I don't
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: know how you missed that. Yeah. I didn't think she was, like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: so self-absorbed. Mm-mm. Or... Mm-mm. I mean, I guess, like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: if her relationship with the guy... Which, by the way,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that scene where she rips down the... Screen? Screen. Yeah. And, like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: sees the... That was very... Yeah, the shadows. I felt bad, too.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Although it is in my wish when she's like, how
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: could you? It was like one step too far.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: We'll get there. I want to know more. Okay, that's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: all about my wishes. The other little one is maybe
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: just like 15% fewer fake leaves in this one. I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: this set the tone. And it was like Halloween. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: like on their street, you know, like in front of
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: their shop, which the name of the shop was so
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: cute too. It just was a lot. That's all. What
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: do you have for wishes? I wanted a little more
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: heat in my smooch. I wanted it to like push
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the smooch-o-meter a little bit. Interesting. Mm-hmm.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted a little more heat. I mean, they've been
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: waiting like 30 years for this moment. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: think they would be ripping each other's clothes off? A
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: little bit. It's not their first date. Yeah. Not like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they don't know each other, right? Yeah. So you and
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I experienced the cheating reveal a little bit differently. I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: did see it coming from a mile away when she's like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: where's Rex? Where's Rex? And we know like she's not
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: with Rex. And then of course, I thought it was
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: like pretty dramatic that everybody had to see it. She
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't like- Yes. That, well done. No wonder she hates Halloween.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I did think her like, how could you and running away,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like a little bit, A little bit cheesy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Really? Yes, I'm sorry. But that's it. But that's it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Let's talk. Did you see that? When did they film
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this movie? There was some cold breath happening. Quite literally
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: my number one question. It must have been earlier this year,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like at the beginning of the year, right? I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: there's no way that Jeff Beasley's pumping out six movies
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: this holiday season and they were all done six weeks ago. Man,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it looked cold. Nobody wants Halloween with breath in the air.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Although.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Except you do. You probably do. I do. And I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: think it's... People that don't live here in Southern California,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: where it is a balmy 95 degrees on October 7th,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I think they do experience cold Halloween. They're like, I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: gotta get a costume that I can put a coat
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: under for my children. That's so wild to me. Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: That's very foreign to us here. Totally. What else do
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you have for digi-see that? At the coffee stand... those
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: are empty cups of coffee just drives me crazy when
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: like they were she was holding like a cardboard tray
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of four coffees and you're just like flinging them around
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: flinging it around like put some water in those it
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: just the person who makes a weighted paper coffee cup
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: for prop purposes will have my heart forever and ever
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't need to have liquid in it i
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: understand the limitations of that yeah that's gonna make noise Okay.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Put some quick cement in it. Yeah. Yeah. My last
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: did you see that? And we're going to talk about
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it because I know you have things to say. But
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Lachlan is real tall, taller than everybody in every one
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of his scenes. Again, I looked it up. It says
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he's 6'4. I didn't. You know, he's on that horse
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: in Hope Valley. Like, you don't realize he's a big man.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So I have been thinking, I actually DMed Jeff Beasley
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: about this. He didn't answer. I wonder if it's a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: trick of the filming because he's either Megan Ori is
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: five feet tall, which I do not. He's so much
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: taller than everybody else. Ghost of Christmas Future in the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: movies is often this like big, looming, hooded figure. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: so I wonder if it was intentionally like they filmed
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: it in a way to make him look so much like,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: is he standing on a box and all of his scenes? I,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I need to know because it's not just like he's taller.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: He's significantly taller than everybody else. How tall is your husband?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Cause he's tall. He's six, three. How tall are you? Five,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: almost six. How tall is Megan Ori? You're five, five, five,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: five and a half. No way. You're taller than that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I used to be five, six. I'm not anymore.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Years of terrible posture have shrunk my spine. Internet says
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Megonori is 5'7. Yeah, see... 6'4 is a tall dude.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: 6'4 is a tall dude. I'm telling you, you need
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to look at the photos. He's like head and shoulders
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: taller than her. Let's see if there's... Look, I got
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to see. Is there a photo on the press site?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I could not stop looking at it. So you think
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they made him visually tall? I think it's intentional. Yes. Well,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing his feet in one and he was
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not standing on a box. Yes, I know. Yes, I agree.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: That's why I DMed Jeff and I'm like, how did
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you make him look so tall? But he's like, he
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: is tall. He was like, I don't understand the question.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Megan's scrolling through the press photos right now. How chic
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: is Megan Ori's costumes? Like her wardrobe in this film.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Her Ghost Bride costume I loved. Why are they loading
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like weirdly like this? Yes, I noticed. They must have
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: changed something because same thing. Look at this photo. I'm sorry.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: That is an enormous. Look how big he looks. I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: think he's a big dude. And she's just little. She's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: just this petite little woman. She might be. He just
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: looks so much bigger than I've ever seen him look.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Put this man in a leading role.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: See here. A little bit better. Yeah. Like this looks like, okay,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: she's 5'7 and he's 6'3. I'll dump these photos in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: our show notes, so guys, come over to girlsgonehallmark.com and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: look and see what we're looking at. Okay, but now,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: oh no, but he's standing on a pedestal in this scene. So, okay.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I have more digits that are more interesting than this.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: First of all, this is the third sexy measuring scene
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in a recent Hallmark movie that we've had. Did you
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: think of it when she was drawing on the jacket?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it sexy, but there's like a little
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: bit towards the end. When Tracy was measuring the avocados.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: no i'm joking i'm joking yeah when everly is like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: having that scene with bow towards the beginning there's like
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a moment where they like have a connection whatever it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know if i had i like it
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: yeah it's just we we see we've been seeing it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a lot yeah this measuring scene this year add this
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: to the i hate this tally the fire department halloween
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: party is on halloween i just i just don't think
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: so i know but i love the community aspect of it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I know. It's so cute. I know. Rex wanted her
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to go as a hot nurse. Gross, but tells us
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: everything we need to know about this dude who we
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: never really actually meet. I love that they said it, though.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, me too. The black void scenes with the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: ghost of the present lit by a cell phone. Yeah, hilarious.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Loved that. the post-it note invasion. So at the beginning,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: when her mentor Anna visits her and she's like, you're
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: going to be visited by three spirits. And she's like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: what the hell is this? Right. As she leaves, there's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: like a series of post-it notes that she keeps finding.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, expect three ghosts. And then
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the next one is like in the next 24 hours
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and then give or take, and then we can do
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this all night. Right. And like, I really keeps grabbing
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: them and throwing them away. It is very like, the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: hogwarts letter via the owl both the movie and the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: book that they cannot stop from coming if you know
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you know also i love that the skateboarding kid who
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: knocks everly's coffee over turns out to be the halloween
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: present ghost and then she.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Puts four dollars in her pocket it's just so cute
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: and how do they do that little heart in the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: steam on the window like she's not actually there they
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: just make it i thought that was well done yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I yeah i don't know All right, what did you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: rate this movie? I gave it 4.75 stars. That's what
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I gave it to. That's what I gave it to.
• 30:55
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• 30:59
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