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Heal Your Cells with Dr. Josh Axe · To Your Good Health

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David Friedman, BS: Hello, this is Dr.
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David Friedman, host of To Your Good Health Radio.
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Many of you eat clean, you take your supplements, and you exercise,
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so why do you still feel off?
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That exhaustion that no amount of sleep fixes, the brain fog that makes you
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feel a decade older, the weight that won't budge no matter what you try.
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Conventional medicine shrugs it and calls it, eh, normal aging.
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Well, here's the truth.
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It's not normal.
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It's your cells crying out for help, and they may be aging
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years faster than you are.
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The good news is science now confirms that cellular damage driving
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your symptoms and stealing years from your life can be reversed.
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Joining us is a listener favorite, Dr.
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Josh Axe, back with a brand-new book called Heal Your Cells.
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He's going to share the secrets to unlocking optimal health and turning back
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your biological clock one cell at a time.
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Stay tuned.
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It all starts now
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Our next guest is a doctor of natural medicine and clinical nutritionist who
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has helped millions around the world transform their health through the power
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of food, herbs, and lifestyle medicine.
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He's a leading voice in personalized nutrition, functional medicine,
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and faith-based healing.
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If you're on social media, you've probably seen his videos on healthy
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living and how food is medicine, something you know I believe in.
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He's the founder of Ancient Nutrition, a top quality product
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line, and he's also pioneered the Health Institute and the Longevity
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Clinic, where he offers innovative approaches to root cause healing.
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And if all that didn't keep him busy enough, he also hosts the Dr.
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Josh Axe Show, a top five ranked health podcast.
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He's the New York Times bestselling author of Eat Dirt, Ancient
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Remedies, and the Biblio Diet.
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His brand new book is co-authored with Dr.
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Will Cole called Heal Your Cells: Reversing the Irreversible: A
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Proven Plan to Heal Faster, Reclaim Energy, and Unlock Longevity.
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Welcome back to the show, Dr.
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Axe
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Hey, thanks so much for having me
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David Friedman, BS: Now you've written bestsellers on gut health, ancient
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remedies, even biblical nutrition.
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Now you've gone all the way down to the cellular level.
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What convinced you that cellular dysfunction is the hidden root
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behind nearly pretty much every chronic disease out there?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: I've been in practice nearly twenty years
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and taken care of so many patients, and one of the things I've realized
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over time is, is that, our cellular health is critically important to the
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health of our hormones, our organs.
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You know, anytime I'm trying to help anyone heal, I'm looking at the biggest
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root causes of their health issues, and one of these areas, of the cell
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has to do with our mitochondria.
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These are the power plants of our cells.
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They give our bodies energy, and they literally create energy for every
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cell, organ, tissue in our body.
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So for-- even for our thyroid to work properly.
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And I really discovered this with thyroid patients.
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I take care of a lot of patients with hypothyroidism, a lot
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of women with hormone issues.
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And I found that, if I was able to improve their mitochondrial
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function and their body could start creating more energy, their thyroid
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symptoms would go away and improve.
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so when I'm looking at more advanced medicine today, looking at things
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like stem cell therapy and ridding our body of senescent cells and more of
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the advanced, nutritional, therapies, supporting mitochondrial health,
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supporting our epigenetics, things like MTHFR and methylation, these things are
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very important to helping people heal.
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you know, this is something I came across with looking at patients and looking at
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the greatest root cause, and I really believe if people can heal their cells,
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well, then they can also heal and fix, whatever issues they have related to organ
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issues and, and other problems as well
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David Friedman, BS: Yeah, I love the subtitle, Reversing the Irreversible.
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That's powerful.
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Conventional medicine tells patients that chronic conditions and aging are a
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one-way street, but what does the science say about how much damage can be undone?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Well, you know what's pretty amazing is, I
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mean, I've had people come in with, so many chronic issues where their
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doctors have told them, "You have to be on this pill the rest of your life
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and your condition's irreversible."
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And I've seen people heal and overcome everything from MS, cancer, autoimmune
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disease, irritable bowel syndrome, a lot of these, you know, more advanced,
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and kind of newer conditions like, long COVID and Lyme disease and mold
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toxicity, and seen people completely heal using food-based medicine,
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mindset medicine, lifestyle medicine.
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And we have so many advanced therapies now.
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One, people can change their diet.
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In some cases, people can also get advanced therapies like hyperbaric
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oxygen therapy, stem cell therapy, red light therapy, infrared sauna, ozone.
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A lot of these therapies are incredibly effective at helping people heal,
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and I discovered this for myself.
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You know, this was about…
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I was actually just thinking about this today, about three and a half years ago,
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I was, dealing with a spinal infection.
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And I had a doctor tell me, "Josh, listen, you'll never walk normally again."
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He said, "You're going to-- Your very best case scenario is you're gonna be
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in chronic pain the rest of your life."
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And he said, "This could kill you."
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And I had, I had an infection in my L5 disc and in my bones, and I
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ended up, believing and spending time, pursuing my faith in God.
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And also, I heard one story of somebody who reversed this condition I had.
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Because I, I'd go online and I would not find very many positive things,
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and I would talk to doctors and they'd say, "Listen, you're likely gonna have
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your-- have to have your spine fused."
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And I remember just saying, "You know, I'm not gonna accept that.
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I'm gonna do everything I can to heal."
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so I started reading all of these articles about, hey, how
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do you reverse the irreversible?
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How do you heal an infection in your disc, in your bone, an abscess by your
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spinal cord where there's this damage?
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And so I came across a study on hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
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I came across studies on consuming certain herbs and doing certain
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types of IVs like methylene blue and silver and a number of things there.
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And I just started flooding my body with nutrients, eating perfectly,
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taking the right supplements.
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I got in a hyperbaric chamber almost every day for ninety days.
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And after that period of time, my body started healing.
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And a year later, I was walking.
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It actually took me an entire year to walk, but I was walking again.
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Now it's been about three years since then, and I'm in
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the best shape of my life.
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I have no pain in my back whatsoever, didn't have to have surgery.
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And so part of this was a experience I had about three years ago when I
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was in great shape and then had this, diagnosis that I thought, quite frankly,
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I, you know, I might never walk again.
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But I really believe that God wanted me to heal, and I learned
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a lot through the process.
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And so again, that's where I was able to reverse an irreversible condition.
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My mom was diagnosed with cancer, breast cancer, and later on lung cancer, and
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that is typically called an irreversible condition, and she was able to reverse it.
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And then I've helped thousands of patients since then reverse irrev-
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conditions, using the advanced blood work and therapies and some of the things
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that I do, the way I practice today
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David Friedman, BS: Yeah, I love how you turned your mess into your
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message because you've lived it.
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You've been there, done that, and now you can help others because look,
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you made it through the, the smoke.
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I love how you, you have separated how old are you from how old are your cells?
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How far apart can those numbers get, and what's the fastest
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way to kind of close the gap?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: they can be pretty far away.
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You know, one of the things I do with blood work analysis, and th- this is
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something I do at-- I have a virtual practice called The Health Institute.
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I have a clinic that I have people fly in from all over the country in
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Nashville, Tennessee, in Franklin called The Longevity Clinic.
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And in these clinics, we do, again, these-- this really advanced blood work,
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and I look at people's cellular health.
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We do most of…
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You know, most of the markers that other doctors don't run, we run the
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markers that are the most important.
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as an example We run a lot of nutrient testing.
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Like, I look at the nutrients in your cells.
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In fact, so there's a test called RBC magnesium.
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You can also do RBC folate, RBC zinc, RBC copper.
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You can test nutrients to see what they are in your cell, 'cause sometimes
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we have nutrients like magnesium that are floating in our blood, but
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they're not getting into the cell where your body actually needs it.
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Think about this almost like diabetes, right?
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You need to get sugar inside the cell.
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If it's in your bloodstream, well, now you have high blood sugar that causes disease.
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A lot of people have nutrients floating around in their blood.
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It's not getting into their cells.
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And a lot of people don't know what their nutrient status is.
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They're taking vitamins, they're taking supplements, and they don't
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even know if they're deficient or not or what they're deficient in.
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So I run a panel looking at all the vitamins, all the minerals, everything
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they're deficient in, and actually can test for what the levels are in the cell.
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And then once I have that information, I'm able to better help figure
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out, s-some of the other things we need to do to help them heal.
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We also have a lot of o-other advanced markers on cellular health.
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And one of the things I do is I have a score that's created with
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my advanced analysis we do with this, with this blood work panel.
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And it-- Also, one of the predictors is somebody's biological age
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versus their chronological age.
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For instance, I'm forty-four years old, chronologically, but biologically,
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my test that I recently did said I'm thirty-four years old, so
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ten years younger, than that age.
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And so typically it could go up to maybe even up to fifteen years if
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somebody's very, very healthy, in terms of how young their body is.
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But there's a lot of people that shows older.
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I had my-- You know, the last blood work, panel I ran for somebody yesterday,
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when I got the results back, they were about eight years older, right?
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A lot of inflammation, a lot of plaquing in their arteries.
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Now, the good news is, is I'm gonna take that person that says
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their blood work says they're eight years older and probably be able
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to make them eight years younger.
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Once I see those markers, I then know exactly, David, exactly what
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to do to start to reverse the age of those cells and those organs.
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And this is why we're seeing just so many incredible healing miracles, is that, you
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I have a saying, it's test, don't guess.
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Once I actually have the test and I know exactly what to do, well, now
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we can go and reverse the organ age.
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And I cover some of this in my new book, Heal Your Cells, what
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to do even without blood testing.
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But doing the right testing definitely has great benefits.
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David Friedman, BS: Yeah, it's like science fiction.
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This stuff's amazing how you can, get down to the cellular level now.
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And I love what you say.
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what makes it into the bloodstream doesn't always benefit our
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cells where it actually counts.
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Would that be a reason why people say, "I'm taking calcium.
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Why are my bones weak?
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I'm taking this.
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Why am I…"
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It could be what they're taking.
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It, it might be junk, correct?
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I mean, there's so much junk out there
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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You know, the most common calcium supplement taken today, calcium
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carbonate, some of it can end up lodged in your arteries.
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So you've probably heard of having calcified arteries or hardened arteries.
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You can have calcium get deposited in the plaque there.
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And the other thing is, in order for calcium to work properly, your
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body has to have the proper levels of magnesium and vitamin D, and even
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certain other nutrients are important as well, like K2 and phosphorus.
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and here's an example too, David.
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If somebody's very deficient in magnesium, they can be taking calcium supplements,
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and then their body can't utilize it.
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So either your body just, you know, you urinate it out, or
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it can actually cause harm.
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In fact, there are studies showing if people are taking synthetic calcium
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supplements, it can increase their risk of a cardiovascular event,
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like a stroke or a heart attack.
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So this is why it's important to know your levels, because again, there's
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a lot of people who are taking these isolated supplements, and they're
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actually doing more harm than good
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David Friedman, BS: Exactly.
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What about these biohacking supplements?
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You see all the TikTok superstars promising age the body backwards.
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What supplements, if any, earn the Dr.
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Axe seal of approval when it comes to healing at that cellular
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level and aging backwards?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: so I would say, you know, when I'm, when I'm looking at
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the studies currently, the first thing to remember is this: There are supplements,
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but the first thing is food, right?
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So, eat your wild-caught meat like salmon.
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Do a lot of fruits, do a lot of vegetables, especially things
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like pomegranate and berries.
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These foods are going to help you reverse your age more than anything.
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Then staying physically active, especially walking, but also weight training.
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So just moving regularly is really important, keeping stress low.
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Then when it comes to supplements, the ones that I see make the biggest
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difference are the ones that are best for you, that are most personalized.
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I am a huge believer in personalized medicine, and here's the reality, Dr.
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David.
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It is gonna be different for everybody, so I wanna say that clearly.
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This is why I do all of this advanced blood work is 'cause when
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I do the testing, then I know.
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Now Generally though, let me give the answer and answer this more directly.
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I see for a lot of people reversing their cellular age.
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One of the great ways to do that is reduce oxidative stress, and
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increasing your levels of glutathione is incredibly helpful for this.
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Glutathione is your body's master antioxidant, so it
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protects your cells from aging.
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It also is great for supporting liver detoxification.
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people can go and get glutathione IVs at certain IV places,
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which can be beneficial.
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But there's a supplement called N-acetylcysteine, that's
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the precursor to glutathione.
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That is one of my favorites.
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In addition, taking an NAD+ supplement like NMN or NR, those give your cells
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what they need, your mitochondria, for producing more cellular energy,
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which supports organ function.
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So I would say N-acetylcysteine, NMN, omega-3 fatty acids are very important
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for the health of the cell membrane, so that would be very high on the list.
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I would say those are probably my top three.
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In addition, just getting more antioxidants.
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You can get those as powders, whether it's resveratrol or
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schisandra or acai, or acai berry.
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Getting more of these antioxidants is helpful as well.
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But outside of those, and specifically those top three I mentioned, I
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think it's very personalized.
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For some people, it might be a probiotic.
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And by the way, this is something I cover in the new book, Heal Your
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Cells, I go through In the back of the book, there's protocols for what
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supplements and foods help reverse organ age the most in certain organs.
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'Cause there's an amazing study out of Stanford that came out, and it
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said most people have one organ aging more quickly than their other organs.
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You know, and, and I think about my father-in-law with this.
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I had a father-in-law that passed away a few years ago, and he
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was my closest friend, David.
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He was an amazing mentor, amazing, godly man.
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and he died of a heart attack.
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he hadn't had any, any of these advanced tests done.
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And, I look at his body.
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He was going to gym every day.
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He was physically active.
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You looked at his entire body, he was healthy, except for his heart was
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aging faster than the rest of his body.
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And so in the book, I really go through how do you reverse age of your heart
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and your brain and your hormones?
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Big for men and women But I think that's an important thing to recognize.
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Most people's-- Most people don't have their entire body aging too quickly.
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Some do if inflammation's very high, but most people have one organ that's
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aging too quickly, and it's really that organ they should focus on healing.
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David Friedman, BS: What are people hearing you and, they're just
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like putting this wall up because they feel doomed by their DNA?
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If heart disease runs in their family, they assume it's inevitable.
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Parents died at their-- in their 60s, they figure they're
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gonna won't make it past that.
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Is genetics really the ter-determining factor in how our health plays
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out, or is it irrelevant?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: I would say generally it's about 95 to 5%.
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95% is lifestyle, 5% is genetic.
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Now listen, genetics matter.
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And by the way, these are tests I run for in my office, at my clinic.
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For instance, I look at a marker for heart health called LPA.
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and this LPA, if you have it, your risk of a cardiovascular event like a
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heart attack or stroke is much higher.
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However, if we can keep your levels lower of something called apoB, then
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LPA really never gets turned on.
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It's never an issue.
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It's never, won't express those genes that your parents had.
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that's where, for instance, I'll have them do a lot of omega-3s.
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I'll have them get more garlic in their diet.
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I'll have them do more, soluble fiber from things like apples
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and pomegranates and blueberries.
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So there are actually very specific foods that can help offset any
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genetic, predisposition somebody has.
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The same-- I look at my mom who had breast cancer and has some of those genes.
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Well, my mom hasn't had breast cancer on her other breast.
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My mom is in her 70s today, incredibly healthy, because she
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had estrogen-based breast cancer.
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Well, now I have her eating a lot of cruciferous vegetables
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like broccoli and cauliflower.
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I have her doing-- taking certain sup-supplements like sulforaphane, which
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actually helps fight and kill cancer and helps offset any of those genetic issues.
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And so that's the great thing is I can actually test for and look at what
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genetic issues there are, and then we're able to take the exact things
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so those genes are never expressed.
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Because genes are like a light switch.
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They have to be turned on.
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And the good news is, Dr.
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David, you can also turn those off using food-based medicine
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David Friedman, BS: I love it.
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So no excuses, folks.
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You heard that.
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Don't blame, you know, your parents on you.
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and if you're overweight, don't blame your genes on why
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you can't fit into your jeans.
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people think that's related to great-grandmas and if you look in the
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1800s and 1900s, people were thin.
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We can't blame our great-grandma if she was thin if we're overweight, right?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Oh yeah, agreed
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David Friedman, BS: Now you're a proponent of fasting, but you go deeper than most.
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You match the type of fast to a person's individual needs.
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How does somebody know which strategy's right for them, and,
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and should everybody be fasting?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Well, again, I get into this in the book, and by the way, I
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don't believe everybody should be fasting.
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In fact, I believe probably less than half of people should be fasting.
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There are a lot of different forms of fasting.
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You know, I think one, one of the most beneficial forms of fasting is doing
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it like, the early church fathers did in Christianity, and that's taking
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one day a week, either a Wednesday or a Friday, skipping breakfast
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and lunch, and just eating dinner.
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and then you're eating normally the rest of the week.
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So that's something that the early church did in honoring God with their bodies.
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Sometimes there's seasonal fast.
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Some people like intermittent fasting.
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I've found generally that men, their body types tend to do
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better with fasting than women.
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Part of it has to do with women's hormones and the constant fluctuations
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up and down where men don't have that.
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If somebody also has low mitochondrial function and they're weak or low
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body temperature, it's typically better that they don't fast.
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So women with hypothyroidism, somebody with chronic fatigue syndrome, somebody
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fighting a chronic infection, those issues typically are not fasting is not ideal.
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However, somebody with cancer, somebody with inflammatory bowel disease, somebody
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who needs to lose a lot of weight but doesn't have hormone-based issues, those
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people tend to do better with fasting.
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So it really is very what I would call bio-individual.
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but, I think for fasting is having a doctor guide you on it or, reading my book
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and going through, kind of showing you, "Hey, here's what to do here for fasting,"
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I think is, is a good way to go about it.
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But again, I think here's the general principle: If you really need very
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strong cleansing and you need to lose weight, and there's a lot of
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inflammation and digestive issues, fasting can benefit you, also for cancer.
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However, if your body is weak, okay?
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Your body's cold, it's weak, you typically do not want to do fasting in that state
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because it will weaken your body more
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David Friedman, BS: I love that.
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It's not my way or the highway.
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One, solution isn't for everybody.
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I love that.
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That's a neat concept.
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last thing I wanna cover is y- were here last time we talked about,
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your book, Think This, Not That.
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How much does mindset affect us at a cellular level?
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Is something positive happening biologically when somebody
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prays or practices gratitude?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Absolutely.
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You know, one of my biggest lessons in practice, Dr.
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David, is that, mindset is medicine.
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If you are thinking negative thoughts, here's a big one.
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If you've had childhood trauma, something happened when you were younger, and you
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haven't fully dealt with that and been able to let it go and forgive and move
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on, that will continue to act almost like a parasite, almost like a cancer cell
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in your body, increasing your risk of, nearly every condition you can imagine.
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And so it's very important that you think about, "Okay, do I have anger?
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Do I have anxiousness?
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Do I worry?
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Do I have fear?"
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And going and combating that directly, typically using the
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Bible as a form of medicine.
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there's a hormone called cortisol, which is the body's master hormone,
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which tends to be the lead domino.
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It's either that one or insulin.
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And cortisol, when that goes high, insulin goes high, then estrogen can go high.
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Then for men, testosterone will drop.
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And so it's really important that you do everything you
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can to balance out cortisol.
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And cortisol rises when your body gets in a fight or flight state.
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And so if you're worrying, if you're anxious, if you're fearful, if you
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have any of those emotions pop up, if you get angry, that is when your
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body goes in fight or flight state.
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Cortisol is released, which will then affect every cell
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in your body, making it sick.
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And it's not, you know, being in that way on occasion is fine.
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Your body can handle that.
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But if you're living in this heightened state constantly, it's one of the
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things we know there's research on this.
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High cortisol causes your body to age more quickly.
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And so you really wanna have balanced cortisol.
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So really spending time working on your mental and spiritual health, spending time
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in prayer, meditation, reading scripture that's sort of comforting and inspiring.
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These are things very practically that can help you lower cortisol, and that will
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help bring your body back into balance.
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But really high cortisol is a lead driver of autoimmune disease, digestive issues,
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heart disease like high blood pressure.
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And so if you-- we can lower cortisol through spiritual mindset and
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mental practices, it is a really, really powerful form of medicine.
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In fact, one of the things I get to in the book in one of the later
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chapters is I go through exactly how to heal your mind and spirit.
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And so I go through that practice of how do, how do you take the captive?
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How do you even discover what your root is, that past memory that's
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still bothering you today or causing you to be in fight or flight?
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And there are advanced forms of medicine for this, ancient Chinese medicine,
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German new medicine, of course, the Bible.
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And I take all of those different forms of medicine and psychology and walk
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through in one of those later chapters of exactly how to heal your mind and spirit.
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David Friedman, BS: Fantastic.
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Great advice.
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In the 30 seconds we have left, anything else you'd like to leave with the
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listeners that we didn't cover today?
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: one I would just say, yeah, thanks
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so much for having me on.
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You know, I think I would just say that for so many people today, that
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if you want to heal-- I had somebody ask me this recently, "Hey, what's the
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biggest thing people need to heal?"
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People need a protocol.
22:35
People need a plan.
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even whether your goal is longevity or it's lowering blood pressure
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or reversing hypothyroidism or boosting testosterone, whatever your
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goal is, you wanna put together a comprehensive plan that includes your
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diet, your supplements, any other lifestyle things you need to improve.
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And that's something that my book does, Heal Your Cells.
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Again, Heal Your Cells, and you can find that on amazon.com
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and bookstores nationwide.
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But I have protocols in the back of the book that walk people through
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exactly how to start to reverse organ age, reverse all of these diseases,
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so the protocols are in the book.
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But I would say that's, something people need.
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This is how my mom reversed her cancer, is she had a protocol, she
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followed it di-diligently, and she was able to reverse the irreversible
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David Friedman, BS: Fantastic, Amber.
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Thanks so much for joining us.
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Always a pleasure having you on the show.
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I know you're busy, and I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule.
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We always appreciate it
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Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS: Thanks Dr.
23:28
David for having me.
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God bless
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David Friedman, BS: Thanks.
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Dr.
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Axe's new book is called Heal Your Cells, Reversing the Irreversible: A
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Proven Plan to Heal Faster, Reclaim Energy, and Unlock Longevity.
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You can get your copy everywhere books are sold.
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To learn more about Dr.
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Axe, go to thehealthinstitute.com.
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And while there, be sure and check out his latest podcast, articles,
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and other resources available to help you optimize your cells.
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