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Speaker 1: Episode thirty four of the Top five Podcasts. I am Kaylin,
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Speaker 1: finally sitting across once again for my bestie and co
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Speaker 1: worker Jason Brown. Hello, you're here in real life, which
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Speaker 1: I honestly don't even believe it yet. I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: if you're over there, well believe it. If you're new,
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Speaker 1: if you're a new friend, you may want to go back,
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Speaker 1: but you may not want to go back. And in
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Speaker 1: that case, I'm just going to tell you week forward, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: don't live in the past. No, please, like listen to everything,
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Speaker 1: but we pick five things each week we love, one
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Speaker 1: thing that made us cry, crash out, or that we hate,
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Speaker 1: and we just kind of talked shit in the middle
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Speaker 1: and yeah, what did you just tell me off air?
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Speaker 2: You hit a really big mile.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I do due lingo every day to hone
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Speaker 3: my Spanish skills, and today I hit two thousand days straight.
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Speaker 3: Two thousand days.
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Speaker 2: That's first of all, that's insane. But tell me that
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Speaker 2: in Spanish, no pointo.
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Speaker 3: So, like I looked up I started. I think it
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Speaker 3: was August first or third of twenty twenty, so sit
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Speaker 3: almost five and a half years.
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Speaker 2: But you can't finish the show. I know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand ones like bettering you and yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly think it's the shaming, Like if it
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Speaker 3: gets late and I haven't done it, it starts sending
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Speaker 3: notifications to my phone, like you really want to lose
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Speaker 3: your one thousand, seven hundred and sixty two day streak?
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Speaker 3: Are you a quitter? Like you know, like.
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Speaker 2: Send these you know I'm gonna start sending those, like.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let someone down.
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Speaker 1: You really don't want to watch the most talked about
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Speaker 1: show that's only six episodes, But.
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Speaker 3: I can do two thousand days straightkin of Spanish larning.
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Speaker 1: Congrats to you. You didn't say congrats to me? Did
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Speaker 1: you see I became a new mother?
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Speaker 2: No, you didn't.
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Speaker 3: Where did you have a baby?
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Speaker 2: Bella?
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Speaker 1: And I my sister became mothers Okay, okay, and I
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Speaker 1: of what well I'm going to tell you.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I almost made it through twenty twenty five without getting
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Speaker 1: a little boo boo oh.
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Speaker 3: I did see that, Okay, But.
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Speaker 1: In the eleventh hour we got La Boo Boo's And
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Speaker 1: it's a really funny story.
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Speaker 2: My family was visiting.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I couldn't tell what Bella really
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Speaker 1: wanted to do, because she was like, we should go
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Speaker 1: to PopMart and then I was like, okay, let's go,
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Speaker 1: and then she was like panicking, was like I don't
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Speaker 1: want to go.
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Speaker 2: So I really didn't know what was going on with her.
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Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she had to go a bathroom
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Speaker 1: or she just like got over stimulated like.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes she I don't fucking know.
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Speaker 1: It was like she was whatever. So then I was like, no,
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Speaker 1: we're right across the street.
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Speaker 2: What just happened.
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Speaker 3: Someone's in There's two screens in front of me, and
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Speaker 3: the one on the left it's moved like someone is
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Speaker 3: actively clicking on so it's probably slav Are Okay, sorry,
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Speaker 3: go ahead, all right? So she had a poop and
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Speaker 3: so you did.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to put that on her, but I
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Speaker 1: don't know. It was like the switch up was crazy.
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Speaker 1: And then I was like, no, we gotta go. We
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Speaker 1: gotta check it out.
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Speaker 2: So we were right across the street.
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Speaker 3: Come on, is there one downtown? Yes? Okay, they just
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Speaker 3: opened one in my mall.
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Speaker 2: You were the one who told me there was one
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Speaker 2: coming to Michigan Avenue. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Anyways, but she she said something about it, and so
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Speaker 1: it was right across the street, so we went.
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Speaker 2: My parents had no idea what lab boobos were, but.
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Speaker 3: They just readily had boos available there.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, you didn't have to fight people anymore for them.
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Speaker 1: No. I mean there were a lot of people in there,
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Speaker 1: but they had your whole collection.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to finish my mad Chrome collection. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were people in there. It's so funny.
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Speaker 1: There were people in there who like knew about the
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Speaker 1: hype but didn't know why there was hype. So like
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Speaker 1: these moms were like, I don't like they were buying them,
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Speaker 1: but they were like, what's the deal. And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you're just buying this, like just because you want to.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, they had them readily available. My sister got
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Speaker 1: one from the Macrone collection, but she got blue, which
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Speaker 1: is one of her favorite colors.
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Speaker 2: So I was excited for her. And they had a
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Speaker 2: more expensive special addition. I feel like Coca Cola la
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Speaker 2: boo boo oh.
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Speaker 3: I saw those. Yeah, yeah, so I.
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Speaker 1: Got a little white one who's holding a little Coca
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Speaker 1: cola cute. Yeah, it's cute. So I almost made it through.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's one that I can like put
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Speaker 1: on my bag or anything, maybe on my bookshelf.
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Speaker 3: But I always get nervous with people doing that because
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Speaker 3: people be snatching those sometimes.
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Speaker 2: You know, yeah really maybe it's not like.
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Speaker 3: As hid in demand as like six months ago, but
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Speaker 3: like people's I just feel like if they're just like
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Speaker 3: danging it around in your bag like that just like
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Speaker 3: is like teasing someone to steal it from you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Okay, well I don't know, but then
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Speaker 2: I don't know. We're just moms now.
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Speaker 1: And Bella texted me an hour later and said, I'm
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Speaker 1: so maternal with my laboo boo.
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Speaker 3: Wasn't it satisfying to open the box?
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Speaker 2: It was fun? But they put like a seal on it.
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Speaker 1: So I started recording and I was a little frustrated
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Speaker 1: because you know, it wasn't a great I so love.
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Speaker 3: Like do they sell the ones where you don't know
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Speaker 3: what's inside or no, like a mystery box.
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Speaker 2: That was what Bella got. She didn't know what colors,
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Speaker 2: so she didn't know.
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Speaker 1: No, mine came in like a clear thing, but hers
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Speaker 1: came in like the bag, Like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't know. So I was excited for her.
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Speaker 1: Speaking on Bella, we really needed you on the last podcast, okay, like.
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Speaker 3: Why you guys are sisters?
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Speaker 2: Like you didn't need me, No, we really needed you.
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Speaker 2: I'm too close to it.
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Speaker 1: It's literally like how Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey did
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Speaker 1: the podcast with Taylor Swift, and Travis just said they're
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Speaker 1: going like, yeah, like that's.
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Speaker 2: What I should have been doing.
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Speaker 1: You should have been asking her ship because we literally
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Speaker 1: just I don't know, we just fucking yapped her asked
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Speaker 1: off almost two hours, as if we were just catching up,
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Speaker 1: like I don't even know if it was a podcast,
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Speaker 1: like we just started talking to each other, as if.
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Speaker 3: Oh, but that's great though, I don't.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but no, don't even try. You should have
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Speaker 2: been there.
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Speaker 3: I love Bella and I hope we have her on.
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Speaker 1: A gutten we need to, because nothing was like I
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Speaker 1: didn't I don't know, I feel like it was not.
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Speaker 1: She was being hurt on herself too, because she said
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Speaker 1: she feels like she said, like a lot I have
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Speaker 1: crutch words too.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, it's just part of hearing yourself.
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Speaker 1: No, but I mean, hopefully people enjoyed it, but I
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Speaker 1: really think it would have been better if you were there.
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Speaker 2: So in the eleventh hour.
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Speaker 1: He just pulled out of the podcast, and you don't
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Speaker 1: even remember what happened.
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Speaker 3: I don't even remember what I was going through it, though,
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Speaker 3: but I'm always going through it. I'm very dramatic.
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you're dramatic, but you are
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Speaker 2: always going through it. But I don't know. It's it
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Speaker 2: was a very long episode.
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Speaker 1: But it's on our new YouTube if you would like,
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Speaker 1: because kind of like our Instagram.
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Speaker 2: The last YouTube I created for us just they just
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Speaker 2: deleted it.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't know, like, are we too inappropriate? Like I don't
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Speaker 2: know what's going.
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Speaker 3: On because there's worst stuffs posted.
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Speaker 1: I thought so. So anyway, so now we have another
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel.
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Speaker 2: I made it. There's one episode on and I'll start.
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Speaker 2: I can smash that subscribe button, right, you can see
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Speaker 2: what we look like.
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Speaker 1: But if you don't know right exactly, Okay, what's in your.
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Speaker 2: Oh you said something else just now that I wanted
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Speaker 2: to touch. Oh yeah, you guys, Jason's got a fatty.
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Speaker 3: My liver enzyme is one number too high or not enzyme,
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Speaker 3: it's like whatever. I don't even know what it is, GLP.
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Speaker 2: Yeah or something. No, but this is the second time
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Speaker 2: you've been told you have a fatty liver. So we
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Speaker 2: need to figure it out.
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Speaker 3: I have a fatty liver because sometimes it hurts, I
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Speaker 3: think your liver.
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Speaker 1: You guys, I'm drinking less and less, but like there
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Speaker 1: was a time where, like speaking of going through it,
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Speaker 1: I really needed Jason to like be a good friend
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Speaker 1: and drink with me a lot, and like you always
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Speaker 1: were drawing the line, you know, like you were towing
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Speaker 1: the line, and now you're you're becoming like a big drinker.
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Speaker 3: I know, all of a sudden, I'm like in my
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Speaker 3: drinking era. Right, So my GP GPC slash alt normal
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Speaker 3: range is below sixty four units. I met sixty five.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I gotta figure out.
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Speaker 3: Like diet related is what I would assume.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it can be. And I also don't
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Speaker 2: think you drink enough to have like cirrhosis failure yet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, he needs to get cleared for surgery.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to not clear me for
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Speaker 3: one number. But also I can see that happening to me,
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Speaker 3: so we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think you will get cleared, but
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Speaker 1: I swear, I swear to good misgrations. Our morning shows
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Speaker 1: on in Salt Lake City, So I've had to train
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Speaker 1: myself to not say.
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Speaker 2: Goodness, goodness, geese and crackers.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what's your first in your top five?
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Speaker 3: Actually I'm changing one.
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Speaker 2: I know, I had like a whole list and my
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Speaker 2: computer crawn.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll do my music one first. I think
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Speaker 3: this one might chuck you.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I what Sorry.
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Speaker 3: I have been listening NonStop wal to Wall to the
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Speaker 3: ACEP Rocky album, like it's really good, like and it's
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Speaker 3: not like he has half of it is sort of
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Speaker 3: like this ALTI rock feel, which is really cool, and
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Speaker 3: then the other half of it is like trap beats,
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Speaker 3: but he's not like mumbling over it, like I hate that,
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Speaker 3: Like I hate like when I can't when they're like
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Speaker 3: I hate hip hop words, you know, like I want
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Speaker 3: to like know what the hell you're saying, you know
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Speaker 3: what I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, and like you don't like shaking music that is,
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Speaker 1: like there's no no, I still need.
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Speaker 3: To like know what you're saying. Like I'm not getting
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Speaker 3: down what it's like some homophobic as ship like I'm
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Speaker 3: not like I.
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Speaker 2: Need to know I understand why you would not want it.
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Speaker 3: Right like so before I like shake as I want
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Speaker 3: to at least know you're not like using slurs.
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Speaker 1: And you guys, we were at Kanye's what was it,
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Speaker 1: his don Da listening party, like this is by the way,
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Speaker 1: this is like before all the anti scientism, before everything. However,
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Speaker 1: we were like, we gotta go, we gotta see this,
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Speaker 1: and we may or not. We may or may not
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Speaker 1: have had a gummy or two. And this you'll remember
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Speaker 1: is when Kanye had the Porch of Shame, who like
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Speaker 1: he decided to put everyone who.
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Speaker 2: Was canceled on it.
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Speaker 1: And so we're fucking vibing sick beats, love it, dancing
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Speaker 1: our asses off, and then you know, the edible starts
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Speaker 1: to hit and I look at you and I go,
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Speaker 1: am I shaking my ass to Marilyn Manton like an
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Speaker 1: alleged predator sex offenders? Yes, And then you look at
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Speaker 1: me and you go, who was it?
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Speaker 2: Little baby?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I want to get rid of Okay, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to accuse the other one. One of the babies said
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Speaker 1: some really homophobic shit and we looked at each other
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Speaker 1: and we're like, what's going.
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Speaker 3: On, right? And then it just went downhill from there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then it was like four am and we
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Speaker 1: were like, we have to go to work, so we
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Speaker 1: leave and we fucking miss Kim Kardashian coming out in
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Speaker 1: a burning wedding dress.
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Speaker 3: Like we stayed so long, I said, through Marilyn Manson
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Speaker 3: and the baby, and.
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Speaker 1: We missed Kim on the drive home. That just reminded
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Speaker 1: me of that when you said homophobic rap. Okay, anyways,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, his.
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Speaker 3: New album came out last week. It's called Don't Be Dumb,
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Speaker 3: which I mean mood. There's so many amazing features on it.
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Speaker 3: Who uh dough cheese on a song he did like
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Speaker 3: this mash up with i'ma gene heap imagen heap imagine
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Speaker 3: heap gorillas randomly are on a song like and what's
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Speaker 3: cool is like when he dropped it, he didn't put
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Speaker 3: any of the features on it, like list any of it.
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Speaker 3: So then you're listening to and you're like, wait, is
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Speaker 3: that that sounds like this person? Or that sounds like
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Speaker 3: this person? But yeah, I just love that he's like
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Speaker 3: he like like the rap stuff. But then he also
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Speaker 3: it sounded like the sounds like a rock album, like
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Speaker 3: some of it, Like it's really cool.
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Speaker 2: He didn't put the futures like in the song yeah, if.
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Speaker 3: You go on streaming, like I don't know if it's
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Speaker 3: there now. Yeah, but when it first dropped, they weren't listed,
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Speaker 3: like you know, Kanye does that too sometimes, like he
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Speaker 3: wouldn't put on the songs, you know. Yeah, but yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's really good. You should check it out.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I will totally check that out. I have a
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Speaker 2: hard time.
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Speaker 1: I have seen a sex tape of his, and I
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Speaker 1: have a hard time not thinking about that every time
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Speaker 1: anyone talks about him. Ever, not really, but do you know,
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Speaker 1: like hearing the way someone talks, like in the bedroom,
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Speaker 1: like it was just I don't know, it's just like
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Speaker 1: an image I can't really get out of my brain.
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Speaker 3: I like, you have not been a fan, like I
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Speaker 3: was not a fan of his, like before this, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I ever.
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Speaker 2: Listen to him, but I love him, Like I feel
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Speaker 2: like he's.
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Speaker 3: Really good on SNL, which actually like really turn Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh this is cool.
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Speaker 2: I like his fashion. I like him and re Rea.
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Speaker 3: I think he's cute theatrical too, Like his performances had
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Speaker 3: like dancers and like everything had like a message and
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Speaker 3: he got kicked through this wall like it was like
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Speaker 3: really cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you can I see a question, how
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Speaker 1: do you decide to try the things you try or
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Speaker 1: listen to the things you listen because I just never.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know. So, like I heard, I always
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Speaker 3: check out, like whatever the top five tracks that come
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Speaker 3: out every week, just to like hear what's new. And
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Speaker 3: two weeks ago or whenever, he released the first single,
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Speaker 3: which is called punk Rocky, and it was like a
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Speaker 3: it sounded like an old song, like it sounded like
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Speaker 3: a rock song, and I was like, oh, this is cool.
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Speaker 3: So I was like so that I've been listening to that.
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Speaker 3: And then the album came out, and then I saw
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Speaker 3: him on SNL and I was like, oh, I want
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Speaker 3: to try that album, like let me listen to it.
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Speaker 3: And then that really like made me like, like it.
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Speaker 2: Go off, girl, I will do Okay, I'll do a
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Speaker 2: music one too.
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Speaker 1: And and obviously this album came out and we've heard
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Speaker 1: songs from it at nauseum. But I don't think the
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Speaker 1: song slim Pickens by Sabrina Got Its Flowers.
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Speaker 2: I like love that song.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's necessarily it should have been
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Speaker 1: a single, but I think it's such a great song,
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Speaker 1: like it's a little like ho ho yeeha, but like
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Speaker 1: in a good way, you know, and I I love it.
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Speaker 2: Though, I just feel like I slept on that song.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that song she sounds like Dolly the most, Like.
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Speaker 2: I just love it. Yeah, yeah, I think it's cute.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I like when she's like the Lord forgot my gay
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Speaker 1: awakening sound right, oh, oh my god.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even.
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Speaker 3: Realize that there's a grinder sound like right after she
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Speaker 3: says that, like it's deep.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's like I feel like, I'm like, why
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Speaker 1: do I like men at all?
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Speaker 2: You know? Why did this happen? Why? Why?
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Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding kind of, but I just like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I like love that song if you
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Speaker 1: I mean, of course it's a short album, short and sweet,
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Speaker 1: and everyone listened.
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Speaker 2: To it already. But I just feel like I didn't realize.
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Speaker 3: How good A lot of people just know the radio
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Speaker 3: tracks they don't know like the deep cut, Boy, do
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Speaker 3: we know the radio those I'm very aware of.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not giving an espresso. It's just like a
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Speaker 2: different kind of sound for her, and I really like it.
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Speaker 3: She will sneak and make country music. Yeah, And I
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Speaker 3: even told our programmer our boss here, I was like,
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Speaker 3: you're playing a country song. Manchild is a country song.
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Speaker 3: Like I just want you guys to be aware that
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Speaker 3: that is a country song.
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Speaker 1: Right, and I don't know how that differently is from
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Speaker 1: like other country songs that.
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Speaker 3: We were like, she got you right, so you can
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Speaker 3: come up with a full country album and you will
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Speaker 3: play it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, There you go, sister.
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Speaker 3: So my next to oh wait, hold that we need
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Speaker 3: to pause you. All right, we're back. I'm sorry to
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Speaker 3: take a phone call. There's it's a little chaotic here today,
- 15:57
Speaker 3: but I feel like I said that every week, so
- 15:59
Speaker 3: no one wants to hear that ship.
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Speaker 2: The real like, let me let me not, let me
- 16:06
Speaker 2: not every day life, let me not say what.
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Speaker 3: Stupid stupid shit.
- 16:13
Speaker 2: Be good girl?
- 16:14
Speaker 3: All right? So I left off my number two. My
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Speaker 3: number two and my number three go together, and it
- 16:18
Speaker 3: is Jessica Seacrest who is on TikTok and is amazing
- 16:24
Speaker 3: as at Apple Sauce and Adhd.
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Speaker 1: Is the girl you interviewed, so tops knew who she
- 16:31
Speaker 1: was and they got so excited. Yeah, we got a
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Speaker 1: message that was like, oh my gosh, my two favorite
- 16:35
Speaker 1: worlds colliding, and so I told her to go listen
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Speaker 1: to your interview.
- 16:38
Speaker 2: It's on the iHeartRadio app.
- 16:39
Speaker 3: Right, it is, yes, And so she's awesome. She does
- 16:44
Speaker 3: cooking tutorials, but like aggressively. And the thing I love
- 16:47
Speaker 3: about her cooking tutorials is they're easy, Like it's easy
- 16:50
Speaker 3: ship that, Like, she's from Michigan. They live in Grand
- 16:55
Speaker 3: or I don't want to say it right now, but
- 16:56
Speaker 3: they live I think, well, no, I can say it
- 16:58
Speaker 3: because she says that they live in Grand Rapids, but
- 17:02
Speaker 3: I don't know. They send they spend some time in Detroit,
- 17:06
Speaker 3: they said at some point. So Michigan, Midwest, girly pop.
- 17:11
Speaker 3: But she lives with her husband and her kids and
- 17:14
Speaker 3: just organically started making content just looking at her fridge
- 17:18
Speaker 3: and seeing what she had and makes dinner every night,
- 17:20
Speaker 3: and it's stuff that I love it because it's stuff
- 17:24
Speaker 3: that's like doable, Like it's not super complex and you
- 17:27
Speaker 3: don't have to know how to flombay or whatever the
- 17:29
Speaker 3: fuck right, Like it's very much easy and simple, and
- 17:33
Speaker 3: she breaks it down in a really funny way. But
- 17:36
Speaker 3: she's like just like mean about it, but she's real
- 17:39
Speaker 3: and that's what I love about her, and I've been
- 17:41
Speaker 3: watching her for years and years and years, and she
- 17:44
Speaker 3: finally two weeks ago let out her first cookbook, so
- 17:50
Speaker 3: and as part of that, she did some like a
- 17:52
Speaker 3: book tour like signings and stuff, and so she was
- 17:54
Speaker 3: coming to Chicago. She did one in the city and
- 17:56
Speaker 3: then it one in Aprilville, and I just reached out
- 17:59
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, would she the in and
- 18:00
Speaker 3: like do some content. They're like yes, we loved hers.
- 18:03
Speaker 3: Like I was like so excited because like I love her,
- 18:06
Speaker 3: And so she came in and we did we did
- 18:09
Speaker 3: an interview, and she brought me Monster Cookie brownies with
- 18:13
Speaker 3: her that she homemade, like in her tupperware. She like
- 18:17
Speaker 3: brought them like it was so that's so cute, and
- 18:20
Speaker 3: they were so so so good.
- 18:22
Speaker 2: It's a cookie brownie.
- 18:24
Speaker 3: It's like, so it's brownie but kind of like you
- 18:29
Speaker 3: know how like cookie like chocolate chip cookies have, like
- 18:31
Speaker 3: the dough is like that light brown color that was
- 18:34
Speaker 3: like the what the brownie looked like. But she calls
- 18:39
Speaker 3: it monster Cookie Brownies because it originated from her just
- 18:42
Speaker 3: putting in everything the kids had left over from Halloween.
- 18:45
Speaker 3: So it had Eminem's and it it had oreos in
- 18:47
Speaker 3: it and had like everything in it, and so she
- 18:53
Speaker 3: uh brought those in with her and it was amazing
- 18:56
Speaker 3: and they were so good, and she was here for
- 18:59
Speaker 3: like an hour. We chiched it, we did some content,
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Speaker 3: and she gave me she signed a copy of her book,
- 19:07
Speaker 3: and the book is called let me See I don't
- 19:12
Speaker 3: want to. Oh, of course it's good, because she always
- 19:15
Speaker 3: ends her videos with of course it's good, or she'll
- 19:18
Speaker 3: say you're probably asking if it's even good. Of course
- 19:22
Speaker 3: it's good because I made it, Like that's how she
- 19:24
Speaker 3: ends her videos. And so she brought it here and
- 19:29
Speaker 3: I have the cookbook and she officially landed on the
- 19:34
Speaker 3: New York Times best Sellers list for your first cookbook,
- 19:38
Speaker 3: Like that's nuts amazing. So that's awesome, and I love
- 19:42
Speaker 3: that she was out hustling like old school. She did
- 19:44
Speaker 3: a whole cross country like book signing tour and these
- 19:47
Speaker 3: she was like packing like small theaters with people that
- 19:49
Speaker 3: just wanted to come and meet her. Like it's so cool.
- 19:51
Speaker 3: And like I asked her, I was like, did you
- 19:52
Speaker 3: ever think that like this would become just from making
- 19:55
Speaker 3: She was like no, Like I just thought people would
- 19:58
Speaker 3: like like these easy recipes and so I started making
- 20:00
Speaker 3: them and everything. Now she has like a publisher and
- 20:03
Speaker 3: like a team, a pr team and like everything. And
- 20:06
Speaker 3: her her husband Matthew, came with her and he was
- 20:09
Speaker 3: like following her around with a camera and like they
- 20:11
Speaker 3: were taking pictures here in the studio and I was like, oh,
- 20:13
Speaker 3: are you like a photographer like in trade? He's like, no,
- 20:17
Speaker 3: I work in finance. I just bought this camera, and
- 20:19
Speaker 3: so he's like following her around and like taking photos.
- 20:21
Speaker 3: Like it was just it was amazing. So you can
- 20:24
Speaker 3: find her in all socials, Apple Sauce and ADHD, which
- 20:27
Speaker 3: actually I should have asked her where that came from,
- 20:29
Speaker 3: because I didn't, and it's so unique. But but her
- 20:32
Speaker 3: name is Jessica Seacrest, no relation to Ryan. But she
- 20:36
Speaker 3: was amazing. And so my third one that goes with
- 20:38
Speaker 3: that is I made something out of the book Two
- 20:40
Speaker 3: Nights Ago, okay, and it was called Lazy Lasagna and
- 20:44
Speaker 3: it was so so, so so so good. So you
- 20:47
Speaker 3: take ground beef and ground Italian sausage, put it in
- 20:50
Speaker 3: a pot or a pan together, and you brown it
- 20:52
Speaker 3: up and then you put like the normal seasoning, like
- 20:54
Speaker 3: Italian seasoning onion powder minced garlic, salt, pepper or whatever
- 20:58
Speaker 3: to like jazz it up a little bit. And then
- 21:00
Speaker 3: you add the tomato. You get jarred tomato sauce, put
- 21:03
Speaker 3: it in there, mix it all up. So you make
- 21:04
Speaker 3: your meat sauce basically, and then you layer sauce frozen
- 21:10
Speaker 3: ravioli and cheese and sauce frozen ravioli cheese, like you're
- 21:14
Speaker 3: making like lasagna, but it's with ravioli, like you don't
- 21:18
Speaker 3: need to like lay out noodles or like whatever. And
- 21:20
Speaker 3: then you just bake it and it was so good.
- 21:23
Speaker 2: Wait, what is in place of the noodles again?
- 21:25
Speaker 3: So it's frozen ravioli frozen huh. So you just do
- 21:30
Speaker 3: a layer of frozen revioli and then you do a
- 21:32
Speaker 3: layer of sauce, layer of cheese, layer of ravioli like whatever.
- 21:35
Speaker 3: So it's like it was so freaking good. And I
- 21:38
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, that's so easy. Yeah, And
- 21:40
Speaker 3: the next page that I'm gonna try is chicken bacon
- 21:43
Speaker 3: ranch sandwiches. That sounds really good, but it should be
- 21:46
Speaker 3: pretty easy to make, I hope. But it's just like
- 21:51
Speaker 3: easy stuff like that. And also like there's the next
- 21:53
Speaker 3: one after that was walking nachos. I'm like, oh, we're
- 21:56
Speaker 3: doing that.
- 21:58
Speaker 2: It's nice to just have like an idea sometimes, yeah.
- 22:00
Speaker 3: Because it's like super easy because I'm so sick of
- 22:02
Speaker 3: making the same ship all the time.
- 22:03
Speaker 2: It's like the dreaded conversation.
- 22:05
Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, I made lazy lasagna last night or
- 22:08
Speaker 3: two nights ago. It was really good and apple sauce
- 22:11
Speaker 3: and ADHD is what she is on on social and
- 22:15
Speaker 3: if you looking for a new cookbook, it's called of
- 22:18
Speaker 3: course it's good, but it is. That's about the level
- 22:22
Speaker 3: of my talent of cooking. So yeah, I love it.
- 22:25
Speaker 2: Shout out to her. We have some crossover people who
- 22:28
Speaker 2: listen to this.
- 22:28
Speaker 3: I'm so, so, so sweet. And she was down for anything.
- 22:31
Speaker 3: I was like, I have a tickedok idea, are you
- 22:32
Speaker 3: down and she was like yes. So I was like,
- 22:35
Speaker 3: here's a script.
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Speaker 1: It was a let me ask you a question. Do
- 22:38
Speaker 1: you know anyone who's like mid or sucks from Michigan?
- 22:42
Speaker 3: No, wasn't Jack Harlow from there?
- 22:46
Speaker 2: Absolutely fuck, absolutely fucking not. He's from Hey, he is
- 22:55
Speaker 2: Nashville's now. Okay, we do not claim them. No, okay,
- 22:58
Speaker 2: he is Nashville now and no, nice to try, but
- 23:04
Speaker 2: we're some down ass We're some down ass bitches.
- 23:07
Speaker 3: Yeah and sowestern family.
- 23:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, okay, I'll have to follow her.
- 23:12
Speaker 1: You just said something that made me like, reminded me
- 23:17
Speaker 1: of something that happened.
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Speaker 2: That made me giggle. And we'll lead into my next one.
- 23:22
Speaker 1: So when you said, like, I don't know how to flambay,
- 23:26
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Over the weekend and I have this
- 23:30
Speaker 1: group chat with my friends that's like for a very
- 23:33
Speaker 1: specific reason, and I'll tell you I in a second
- 23:34
Speaker 1: because that'll be in my top five. But within that,
- 23:37
Speaker 1: my friend sent a photo of her husband holding a
- 23:40
Speaker 1: plate of breakfast he made and she was like, you, guys,
- 23:44
Speaker 1: he makes eggs the Gordon Ramsey way and it's not
- 23:47
Speaker 1: the healthiest, but they're so good. Okay, So I'm like, oh,
- 23:50
Speaker 1: I bet, like I can make eggs. How does Gordon
- 23:52
Speaker 1: make his eggs? Let me just read to you. She
- 23:54
Speaker 1: sent a photo of instructions. It's like a fucking It's
- 23:58
Speaker 1: like a choreographed dance. Like I there's zero percent chance
- 24:02
Speaker 1: that I could do this. So here's how Gordon makes
- 24:04
Speaker 1: his eggs. No pre whisking, so do not whisk the
- 24:08
Speaker 1: eggs in a bowl beforehand. Crack them directly into a
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Speaker 1: cold non stick saucepan or pot, which I'm already anti nonstick.
- 24:16
Speaker 1: It's very cancrous look it up anyways. But however, that's
- 24:21
Speaker 1: the first step. Okay, I can handle that. Now here's
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Speaker 1: where we get crazy. Constant stirring. Use a rubber spat
- 24:29
Speaker 1: spatula to stir continuously, treating it like a risotta.
- 24:33
Speaker 2: Oh, totally know what that means.
- 24:36
Speaker 3: Totally like continuously to what like, how do I know
- 24:39
Speaker 3: what it's done?
- 24:39
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you into a cold non stick saucepan
- 24:43
Speaker 1: or pot, so you have to continuously or no, I'm
- 24:45
Speaker 1: sorry to create small soft curds.
- 24:49
Speaker 3: Oh oh my god.
- 24:50
Speaker 1: Okay, so not kurd Remember, treat it like a risotta,
- 24:53
Speaker 1: because I know exactly what that means. Next step, place
- 24:58
Speaker 1: the pan on how I slash a medium heat for
- 25:01
Speaker 1: thirty to sixty seconds, then remove it for ten to
- 25:04
Speaker 1: twenty seconds, repeating this process about three or four times.
- 25:08
Speaker 1: And if I could even understand what it's telling me
- 25:11
Speaker 1: to do, the chances of me getting distracted in between
- 25:14
Speaker 1: one of those steps and just like starting to do
- 25:16
Speaker 1: something else, like I already wait, so we're.
- 25:18
Speaker 3: Picking it from the cold into the hot and then
- 25:20
Speaker 3: back into the cold.
- 25:21
Speaker 1: Yes, place the pan on higher medium for thirty to
- 25:24
Speaker 1: sixty seconds, then remove it for ten to twenty seconds.
- 25:28
Speaker 1: But you have to do that process three to four times.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
- 25:33
Speaker 1: Next, add a teaspoon of cold cream cram fresh sorry,
- 25:37
Speaker 1: or sour cream or butter right, sounds great, love it
- 25:39
Speaker 1: at the end to stop the cooking process and add
- 25:42
Speaker 1: extra richness.
- 25:43
Speaker 2: So I guess that stops the egtram cooking.
- 25:45
Speaker 3: What kind of are we making? Like a ramble?
- 25:48
Speaker 1: Kind of a scramble, but like you don't roll it,
- 25:52
Speaker 1: And then add salt pepper only after only after eggs
- 25:56
Speaker 1: removed from the heat to prevent them from becoming watering.
- 26:00
Speaker 3: Why does Gordon Ramsay's recipes sound like he's yelling at me?
- 26:03
Speaker 2: He yeah, he probably is.
- 26:04
Speaker 1: But like literally, first of all, we don't know what
- 26:07
Speaker 1: it means to treat it like a risotta.
- 26:10
Speaker 2: No fucking I've.
- 26:11
Speaker 3: Never made risotta my entire life. Like I guess you
- 26:14
Speaker 3: have to keep stirring it.
- 26:15
Speaker 2: I don't know. And like the actually.
- 26:18
Speaker 1: Literally and the eggs sound sound and look so good,
- 26:21
Speaker 1: but like the chance of me being able to do that,
- 26:24
Speaker 1: like that's a lot, Gordon, so.
- 26:26
Speaker 2: They better be amazing. And the reason that she sent
- 26:30
Speaker 2: it is my friends.
- 26:30
Speaker 1: And I are doing something really cool that I think
- 26:34
Speaker 1: my friend Ashley saw on TikTok and she sent a
- 26:36
Speaker 1: group of us and said like, hey, do you want
- 26:38
Speaker 1: to do this. It's every Sunday, we all send each
- 26:43
Speaker 1: other five photos from our week to just like I
- 26:49
Speaker 1: don't know, stay close.
- 26:50
Speaker 2: And and talk and share.
- 26:53
Speaker 1: Yeah and so, and it's funny because we always end
- 26:55
Speaker 1: up sending way more than five, but like people, every
- 26:58
Speaker 1: Sunday it's called photo friends, and every Sunday we'll send
- 27:02
Speaker 1: five five five.
- 27:04
Speaker 3: I don't take there are some things I don't even
- 27:06
Speaker 3: take five photos.
- 27:08
Speaker 1: Correct, and we have those weeks, but we'll like share
- 27:10
Speaker 1: a screenshot or you know whatever, or I'll go back,
- 27:15
Speaker 1: you know, a week before if it was a photo
- 27:16
Speaker 1: I didn't send or something. But it's just like if
- 27:19
Speaker 1: it's a slow week, it's fine. And then everybody like
- 27:22
Speaker 1: comments and like some of them have kids, some of them,
- 27:25
Speaker 1: you know, have little dogs that I like to keep
- 27:27
Speaker 1: up with.
- 27:27
Speaker 2: So it's but it's something that we've been doing every Sunday.
- 27:30
Speaker 2: I'm like bad about remembering, but when when I get
- 27:32
Speaker 2: the text on I remember. So, yeah, that's something we've
- 27:34
Speaker 2: been doing just to like, I don't know, stay in
- 27:38
Speaker 2: touch because we don't live in the same place. Yeah,
- 27:40
Speaker 2: it's really cool.
- 27:41
Speaker 3: So I did too. Do you want to do another one?
- 27:43
Speaker 3: You want me to go again?
- 27:45
Speaker 2: I have a two one coming up.
- 27:48
Speaker 1: Okay, so then you just do one and then I'll
- 27:51
Speaker 1: do my two after that.
- 27:53
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so my next two I'm gonna separate. But
- 27:56
Speaker 3: there's a common theme. But okay, it's something that I
- 27:59
Speaker 3: have been that I started watching over Break a little
- 28:03
Speaker 3: bit and what I realized I love and there's a
- 28:05
Speaker 3: reason why I love it. I love me a lifetime movie.
- 28:08
Speaker 3: They yes, and I'll tell you why. So they have
- 28:12
Speaker 3: these series of I Am and it's all Crew Crew
- 28:16
Speaker 3: TRIMERI love true crime movies, Grace.
- 28:26
Speaker 2: It's a hard day.
- 28:28
Speaker 3: True crime movies. Okay. Like the first one I watched
- 28:30
Speaker 3: was Karen Reid. They have a Karen Reid. Karen Reid
- 28:34
Speaker 3: Accused is the name of the movie.
- 28:36
Speaker 1: Could not be bothered to watch the actual documentary about the.
- 28:39
Speaker 3: Actual watch the movie. Then there was one about I Am.
- 28:46
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, but a Fuco Oh what the
- 28:50
Speaker 3: fuck is her name?
- 28:52
Speaker 2: But is that the one of the lawyers.
- 28:55
Speaker 3: Right, A lady married Mary Joe but Afuco. Okay, what
- 29:00
Speaker 3: did she do again? She was the one. This was
- 29:02
Speaker 3: like back in like the nineties. I want to say,
- 29:06
Speaker 3: her husband, Joey Buttafuco, was having an affair with a
- 29:11
Speaker 3: sixteen year old girl. Okay. The sixteen year old girl
- 29:15
Speaker 3: was kind of Amy Fisher. She was kind of off whatever,
- 29:18
Speaker 3: but kind of mentally unstable whatever. A sixteen year sixteen
- 29:21
Speaker 3: year old right ends up going to their home and
- 29:25
Speaker 3: Mary Joe answers the door, she's talking to her whatever,
- 29:27
Speaker 3: pulls out a gun shoots her right in the head.
- 29:29
Speaker 2: Mary Joe does no.
- 29:31
Speaker 3: Amy Fisher. The sixteen year old shoots the wife in
- 29:33
Speaker 3: the head. Right, wife survives the bullet lodged in her
- 29:38
Speaker 3: fucking brainstem. Okay, still to this day, she's still alive.
- 29:42
Speaker 3: Bullets lodge She has partial facial paralysis, but she's still alive. Right, Well,
- 29:47
Speaker 3: I guess it's turned into like a huge thing. In
- 29:48
Speaker 3: the nineties. I remember these movies were made at the
- 29:51
Speaker 3: same time. Drew Barrymore was in one of them, and
- 29:54
Speaker 3: then Alyssa Milano I think was in the other one.
- 29:57
Speaker 3: Like whatever, So they did a Lifetime movie her and
- 30:01
Speaker 3: it actually had Mary Joe telling the story, so she
- 30:04
Speaker 3: was sitting there like it was kind of like half
- 30:06
Speaker 3: documentary half movie because she was there actually like telling
- 30:09
Speaker 3: the story from her point of view and like whatever. Okay, So,
- 30:12
Speaker 3: but the reason I love now the acting mid right,
- 30:15
Speaker 3: But the reason I love these they are ninety minutes
- 30:19
Speaker 3: or less, like period and I get everything I need
- 30:22
Speaker 3: about this case or about the story.
- 30:25
Speaker 2: Baby. So was the documentary the Karen Reid.
- 30:29
Speaker 3: I will say I liked the buttafuco One more than
- 30:32
Speaker 3: Karen Reid because Karen Reid the girl they had played
- 30:35
Speaker 3: Karen Reid, she was a little much like she was
- 30:38
Speaker 3: very Hallmark movie ish, right like, and so I was like, okay,
- 30:41
Speaker 3: get it. But I've watched two of them in the
- 30:44
Speaker 3: last week.
- 30:45
Speaker 2: I can't stand your ass. What do you want to watch?
- 30:49
Speaker 1: Like you watch the fucking fake version of that really
- 30:52
Speaker 1: bad dude who's like legit?
- 30:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, like why are you doing this?
- 30:57
Speaker 2: Like why are you doing this? Let me show you something?
- 31:02
Speaker 2: Can I just say? Like, so, you're never gonna finish
- 31:04
Speaker 2: he did Rivalry.
- 31:05
Speaker 3: Probably not no, maybe, because Mike keeps talking about it.
- 31:08
Speaker 3: He wants to watch it, so I feel like we
- 31:10
Speaker 3: probably will. He wants to see the gay Hockey Show,
- 31:13
Speaker 3: so it's okay, I'll try it. And every time he asks, well, no,
- 31:18
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you that part because I'm gonna
- 31:20
Speaker 3: pick another one thing for my next week, so I'm
- 31:22
Speaker 3: not gonna tell you that.
- 31:23
Speaker 2: Oh you can't tell me what you say every time
- 31:25
Speaker 2: you ask Okay, no, I'm gonna put it on this okay.
- 31:29
Speaker 3: So I'm here for a true crime lifetime movie.
- 31:32
Speaker 1: Do you know, like there's only six episodes like you
- 31:34
Speaker 1: could have in the time you watch those two lifetimes
- 31:36
Speaker 1: you could have just finished. He did Rivalry so true.
- 31:43
Speaker 4: So true, and you're you're I don't understand because like you,
- 31:47
Speaker 4: you you have to watch the news because you have
- 31:49
Speaker 4: to be up on everything, and you have TMZ alerts on.
- 31:51
Speaker 1: Your phone because you have to be up on everything. Yeah,
- 31:53
Speaker 1: but you don't want to be up on this thing.
- 31:57
Speaker 3: I knew that CPS is closing tomorrow before a parent
- 32:01
Speaker 3: who's sitting out there, and I just told that that
- 32:03
Speaker 3: creat I just told someone should call me and tell me.
- 32:08
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm telling you, WG I just you Yeah,
- 32:14
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm I can't. There's no reason, there's
- 32:17
Speaker 3: no way for me to explain how I exist.
- 32:21
Speaker 2: I just I just value your take.
- 32:23
Speaker 1: So like, all it is is me wanting to hear
- 32:25
Speaker 1: how you feel about it. You know, I would love
- 32:28
Speaker 1: to hear it. Maybe you have a little back and
- 32:30
Speaker 1: forth with you about it, you know, so true?
- 32:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. I don't
- 32:38
Speaker 3: know why I make the moves that I do.
- 32:40
Speaker 1: You Yeah, you real g's move in silence like lasagna,
- 32:45
Speaker 1: because I don't understand you, like, and I really like
- 32:47
Speaker 1: pride myself on understanding people, and I want to understand it.
- 32:49
Speaker 1: I also like, if you had told me like, hey,
- 32:51
Speaker 1: it's like triggering for me, or like I'm gay, I
- 32:53
Speaker 1: don't need to see this, I would be like, Okay,
- 32:55
Speaker 1: I do want to.
- 32:55
Speaker 3: I do want to watch the rest of it, just
- 32:57
Speaker 3: because of all the hype and people are into it,
- 33:00
Speaker 3: and you tell me there's a good ending.
- 33:01
Speaker 1: So I just feel like, if you're like I, I
- 33:05
Speaker 1: don't want to be forcing you into something that's triggering.
- 33:07
Speaker 1: And I can completely understand when you when you were
- 33:09
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit triggering. Why I can I
- 33:11
Speaker 1: can sympathize and empathize with that as your friend, I
- 33:13
Speaker 1: would never like be like sit down and hold your
- 33:17
Speaker 1: eyeballs open.
- 33:19
Speaker 2: But if you're if it's okay, like.
- 33:22
Speaker 3: Yes, I think there's a way for it to turn
- 33:23
Speaker 3: out where yes, it might be healing.
- 33:25
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought maybe you know, I don't know, And
- 33:28
Speaker 1: I also just like wanted your opinion on like the
- 33:31
Speaker 1: accuracy of I don't know, like the situation not that no,
- 33:38
Speaker 1: just like I don't know, like is it portrayed in
- 33:42
Speaker 1: a way that like closeted gay men would like is
- 33:46
Speaker 1: it realistic?
- 33:47
Speaker 2: Because I think it's I don't know.
- 33:48
Speaker 1: I I above all else like I'm I think it's
- 33:51
Speaker 1: funny that like you know whatever, gay sex woe.
- 33:53
Speaker 2: But like for me, I do think it's like an
- 33:56
Speaker 2: important show.
- 33:56
Speaker 1: Because it's such like a true thing that happens, and
- 34:00
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of like gay love stories now
- 34:02
Speaker 1: are mainstream.
- 34:03
Speaker 3: I just I do think, and I'm trying to take
- 34:06
Speaker 3: myself out of it. I was talking to someone else
- 34:09
Speaker 3: about this. Yeah, I do think that there is a
- 34:11
Speaker 3: reason why I at least I haven't seen I've seen
- 34:16
Speaker 3: a couple people in my community talking about it, but
- 34:19
Speaker 3: it's not like as uplifted by my community yet and
- 34:26
Speaker 3: we're not against it, Like I don't see hate, I
- 34:28
Speaker 3: see nothing, like, I see no reaction, Like it's all
- 34:34
Speaker 3: people that are like that it's new too, maybe is
- 34:41
Speaker 3: like what I'm like, I don't know like what it is.
- 34:43
Speaker 3: But like all the women I was with in LA,
- 34:46
Speaker 3: it's shocking and they love it, and I love that
- 34:48
Speaker 3: they love it. But it's like that's the reaction I'm seeing.
- 34:52
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing like us being like yes, like we
- 34:55
Speaker 3: are afraid, you know, Like it's not like we're not
- 34:58
Speaker 3: taking it like putting it on our show. There's And
- 35:00
Speaker 3: I don't know why that is. And I would love
- 35:02
Speaker 3: to study that because like even the few gay people
- 35:05
Speaker 3: that I talked to, I know that we know someone
- 35:06
Speaker 3: that it was an outlier, but like we're like, oh no,
- 35:09
Speaker 3: I didn't finish it or I didn't watch that, or
- 35:11
Speaker 3: I didn't start that right, you know. And it's like,
- 35:12
Speaker 3: but why because it does seem as an out as
- 35:16
Speaker 3: someone that hasn't watched the whole thing that it should
- 35:18
Speaker 3: be like a progressive thing, you know, and like pushing
- 35:21
Speaker 3: into the spotlight. But it's not like the women like it.
- 35:26
Speaker 3: But the girls I don't think are like yeah.
- 35:29
Speaker 1: Well, I could understand that in the sense, like by
- 35:31
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not shocked by anything I see in it,
- 35:33
Speaker 1: Like I'm not. I know that there's so many closeted athletes,
- 35:36
Speaker 1: and I know like the whole song and dance, and
- 35:39
Speaker 1: I you know, obviously, like the actors have confirmed that
- 35:42
Speaker 1: there's like been a ton that have like reached out
- 35:44
Speaker 1: to them privately, which I think is wild. But I
- 35:46
Speaker 1: think probably for you guys, like it's because like you
- 35:49
Speaker 1: lived it whatever, like you don't need to like that.
- 35:52
Speaker 2: There's no shock factor in that. I did not.
- 35:55
Speaker 1: When I texted you, I felt so bad because I
- 35:57
Speaker 1: was like, have you seen heated rivalry? Because it was
- 36:01
Speaker 1: all over my algorithm and that's the only reason I
- 36:05
Speaker 1: asked you. But then when you were like everyone's asking
- 36:07
Speaker 1: me about the show, I'm like, Okay, first of all,
- 36:09
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I'm not asking you because
- 36:11
Speaker 1: you're a gay man.
- 36:12
Speaker 2: I'm asking you because like we.
- 36:14
Speaker 1: We both like I feel like we like to be
- 36:16
Speaker 1: in the pop culture of it all, and it's being
- 36:19
Speaker 1: talked about and also it's like straight up softcore porn
- 36:22
Speaker 1: and I'm crying. This woman commented on our Instagram and
- 36:24
Speaker 1: was like she was like by episode three, I became
- 36:28
Speaker 1: completely desensitized to softcore gay porn and just became very
- 36:32
Speaker 1: happy about the love story and was like rooting for them.
- 36:35
Speaker 2: And it's just like I don't know, I just love
- 36:37
Speaker 2: to see it because like.
- 36:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I in theory. I love that there's
- 36:41
Speaker 3: the representation. I don't know, I've never felt this way
- 36:46
Speaker 3: about something before, like and not even like the thing,
- 36:49
Speaker 3: because I didn't even watched the whole thing, Like the
- 36:52
Speaker 3: different reactions.
- 36:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it is interesting.
- 36:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like something I want to study, Like I
- 36:59
Speaker 3: want I want to be doing a study that I
- 37:01
Speaker 3: can like read why like why some people are reacting
- 37:05
Speaker 3: a certain way and some people are reacting a different way.
- 37:07
Speaker 3: Like it's it's like I'm more like interested in the
- 37:13
Speaker 3: of it all versus like the content.
- 37:16
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think and like I don't think
- 37:19
Speaker 2: the show's like it's not like an artistic masterpiece, and
- 37:23
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, you know what I mean, Like I
- 37:25
Speaker 2: don't think that I became more fascinated, right.
- 37:29
Speaker 3: What it's Golden Globe.
- 37:31
Speaker 1: No, when they were there and they presented which I love,
- 37:33
Speaker 1: but I what I love to see is well. I
- 37:35
Speaker 1: became fascinated by it because everyone was talking about their
- 37:39
Speaker 1: press tour and how they were all over each other,
- 37:42
Speaker 1: so like I was more into the the story of
- 37:46
Speaker 1: it all and how one of them they became overnight celebrities,
- 37:50
Speaker 1: like uh, the Asian actor Hudson, I forget his last name.
- 37:55
Speaker 1: The first time he got recognized, a girl grabbed onto
- 37:58
Speaker 1: his leg and like wouldn't let him keep Like, I'm
- 38:00
Speaker 1: just fascinated by everything else that's like not the show.
- 38:04
Speaker 1: It sound like, I'm fascinated by the press tour. I
- 38:07
Speaker 1: was fascinated by the conversation. I'm fascinated that like one
- 38:09
Speaker 1: of them is maybe straight. I'm fascinated that I think
- 38:14
Speaker 1: maybe things I hope things are shifting to where like
- 38:17
Speaker 1: more straight actors are open to doing stuff like this
- 38:19
Speaker 1: because gay actors fucking play straight all the time. I'm
- 38:23
Speaker 1: fascinated by how people think they're not media trained because
- 38:26
Speaker 1: they're like all over each other in interviews, when like
- 38:28
Speaker 1: they're so media trained that they're like flirting with each other.
- 38:31
Speaker 3: I know.
- 38:31
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fascinated by all of it, and I
- 38:33
Speaker 1: think it's crazy that they became overnight sensations. With all
- 38:37
Speaker 1: these actors dming, like Helen Hunt DMed one of the
- 38:41
Speaker 1: guys from the show and was like, I want you
- 38:43
Speaker 1: to know you're so good Francois or No. He's like, yeah,
- 38:46
Speaker 1: he's like another there's another love story that's in there,
- 38:48
Speaker 1: And like he said, she dms him and was like,
- 38:51
Speaker 1: you're great in this and everything else you've been in,
- 38:53
Speaker 1: which means she went back and watched his entire like,
- 38:55
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just like and it was cool,
- 38:57
Speaker 1: like everyone at the Golden Globes, like even the biggest actors,
- 39:01
Speaker 1: they all were asking them for picture.
- 39:03
Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 39:03
Speaker 1: I just thought it was yeah, But I did feel
- 39:06
Speaker 1: instantly very bad that it almost felt like everyone was
- 39:08
Speaker 1: asking you because you're a.
- 39:10
Speaker 2: Gay man to like speak, you know, to like be
- 39:12
Speaker 2: the gay man to speak for all game. And and that's
- 39:14
Speaker 2: not why I asked you. I was like, have you
- 39:15
Speaker 2: heard this shit? Because there's softcore porn going on HBO.
- 39:18
Speaker 3: No. I didn't take it as like, okay, asking me
- 39:21
Speaker 3: like that. I think everyone all of a sudden, people
- 39:23
Speaker 3: were just talking about it, and it was like whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, No,
- 39:26
Speaker 3: I do love that. It wasn't like a manufactured thing,
- 39:28
Speaker 3: and it kind of like they became famous organically, Like yeah,
- 39:33
Speaker 3: they're in the show and they've done other stuff, but
- 39:34
Speaker 3: like it wasn't like something that was being shoved down
- 39:37
Speaker 3: your throat. It was something that like organically went viral
- 39:41
Speaker 3: in a way just because it's good, you know, which
- 39:45
Speaker 3: is always good to see for sure, manufactured fame or popularity,
- 39:50
Speaker 3: you know.
- 39:51
Speaker 1: And I guess there's a subculture, Like I was talking
- 39:53
Speaker 1: about it on our morning show's podcast, I Believe, and
- 39:57
Speaker 1: I got a diatribe from a girl who was like,
- 39:59
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to hear you talk about this. This
- 40:01
Speaker 1: is a whole sub section of women who like prefer
- 40:05
Speaker 1: gay love stories, and here's what you should watch next
- 40:08
Speaker 1: if you're into this.
- 40:09
Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa, I like whoa?
- 40:10
Speaker 3: I like.
- 40:11
Speaker 2: I was like appreciative. I'm like, I had no idea.
- 40:15
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Yeah, I mean I was thinking. I was
- 40:18
Speaker 3: sort of like the reason being is I and I
- 40:21
Speaker 3: guess you can tell me if I'm wrong, but like,
- 40:23
Speaker 3: to me, the most obvious reason is kind of like
- 40:25
Speaker 3: you're seeing men be more open and emotional versus maybe
- 40:31
Speaker 3: that isn't what you're getting from the men. That you
- 40:34
Speaker 3: might typically date or me, because they don't act like that,
- 40:37
Speaker 3: you know. So it's almost like an extra layer of
- 40:40
Speaker 3: like eroticism because it's like, oh, like yeah, men can
- 40:43
Speaker 3: be that tender and be that emotional and caring and maybe,
- 40:47
Speaker 3: you know normal normally you don't get that much out
- 40:50
Speaker 3: of straight men typically.
- 40:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the reasons I saw for sure,
- 40:54
Speaker 1: just them being like emotional with each other.
- 40:58
Speaker 2: They're hot.
- 40:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, it is pretty fascinating. But yeah,
- 41:01
Speaker 1: you guys lived it. You're like, yeah, you guys, hello,
- 41:04
Speaker 1: but I don't know, speaking of stuff to watch, this
- 41:07
Speaker 1: is my double, my double Chandra for you. So I
- 41:12
Speaker 1: started Traders and we're yes, so we're in our fourth season.
- 41:18
Speaker 2: I was always.
- 41:19
Speaker 1: Told by people like how I'm doing to you, like
- 41:22
Speaker 1: with their eyes wide, like you have to watch Traders now.
- 41:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if now that I'm watching Traders, I
- 41:27
Speaker 1: feel like it's something that I was like completely missing
- 41:29
Speaker 1: out on my life. I do think I would love
- 41:32
Speaker 1: to go on this game show because it's not like
- 41:34
Speaker 1: very not a ton of like crazy physical activity.
- 41:36
Speaker 2: It's like kind of a social game. Essentially.
- 41:39
Speaker 1: The plot is that you and this is not even
- 41:42
Speaker 1: in my top five.
- 41:43
Speaker 2: But essentially the plot is there's a reason for my day,
- 41:48
Speaker 2: I try.
- 41:48
Speaker 1: But the plot is basically there are faithfuls and traders,
- 41:53
Speaker 1: but you don't know who's a faithful and who's a trader. Okay,
- 41:56
Speaker 1: And like they quote, the whoever is standing at the
- 42:01
Speaker 1: end wins the pot. So the faithfuls are trying to
- 42:04
Speaker 1: get the traders out and the traders are trying to
- 42:05
Speaker 1: act like faithfuls and like convince people not to vote
- 42:08
Speaker 1: them out. But at night, the traders they kill, you know,
- 42:12
Speaker 1: quote unquote, but really it's just you.
- 42:14
Speaker 2: Someone gets eliminated from the castle whatever.
- 42:16
Speaker 3: Okay.
- 42:16
Speaker 1: But the reason I started watching it was for Donna
- 42:18
Speaker 1: Elci because she's on it, and I won't give away, Yeah,
- 42:25
Speaker 1: I won't give away anything. I will say they did.
- 42:28
Speaker 1: I don't want to give away anything. Anyways, she is,
- 42:32
Speaker 1: she is in my top five. She is the most
- 42:34
Speaker 1: like I could cry thinking about her, Like she is
- 42:37
Speaker 1: precious and she's such a mom, And everybody else was
- 42:41
Speaker 1: on like reality shows and knew each other, and like
- 42:43
Speaker 1: I just wanted to like hug her and like it
- 42:46
Speaker 1: was just funny like watching the people that like how
- 42:48
Speaker 1: they reacted to her.
- 42:49
Speaker 2: Because everyone knows she's about to be like Taylor's.
- 42:50
Speaker 1: So mother in law, and like people didn't want to
- 42:53
Speaker 1: go her after her because it was like, but she's
- 42:55
Speaker 1: precious and she was just so great full that at
- 43:00
Speaker 1: her age she got the opportunity to be on a
- 43:04
Speaker 1: show like this, and it was just so sweet, like
- 43:06
Speaker 1: she was crying and like tearing up about it and
- 43:10
Speaker 1: her and Jason binged it and that's why they got
- 43:12
Speaker 1: into it, and that's why she went on it. And
- 43:15
Speaker 1: it was just like she's just precious and I'm I
- 43:19
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just like I love her. I'm so
- 43:20
Speaker 1: happy for her, Like she's just like so she's like
- 43:23
Speaker 1: America's mom.
- 43:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:25
Speaker 2: Also the host, Alan Cumming. Do you know who he is?
- 43:29
Speaker 1: I mean I'm pretty sure he's one of the sisters
- 43:32
Speaker 1: as you call them.
- 43:33
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is he from?
- 43:36
Speaker 3: I've seen him before?
- 43:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, he I don't know. He's Scottish. She's an actor.
- 43:40
Speaker 1: He's like funny, but he's yeah, he hosts traders. His
- 43:47
Speaker 1: his outfits and like dramatic lines like honey, I mean
- 43:52
Speaker 1: a gay icon, like he has the most from Scotland. Yeah,
- 43:57
Speaker 1: he's definitely has a Scottish accent, but he's everything so
- 44:00
Speaker 1: so dramatic, and his outfits are fucking wild, Like he
- 44:03
Speaker 1: is serving looks while being the host of this show,
- 44:06
Speaker 1: and I just like love it. It's all random things
- 44:10
Speaker 1: put together, but I just like love his little outfits.
- 44:14
Speaker 1: So I'm watching them Traders, and.
- 44:17
Speaker 3: I'm looking at his outfits.
- 44:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he every day every morning at breakfast, he
- 44:24
Speaker 1: comes out and he's serving looks and he'll be like Traders,
- 44:29
Speaker 1: Like yeah, oh yeah, they show breakfast every morning. But
- 44:31
Speaker 1: I think, like we could be good on this game.
- 44:33
Speaker 1: I do, like I can't really hold water. But like
- 44:37
Speaker 1: Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski are both on it together
- 44:41
Speaker 1: and their besties, but they and they have an alliance,
- 44:43
Speaker 1: but they don't show that they're close in the house.
- 44:45
Speaker 1: So like if we went on, we would like play
- 44:47
Speaker 1: it cool, you know, I get to know other people,
- 44:49
Speaker 1: but like we you know, yeah, there's an alliance.
- 44:52
Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 44:55
Speaker 1: I think they might just be like, oh, both figure skaters,
- 44:57
Speaker 1: but they're like downplaying it.
- 44:59
Speaker 3: But also I want to watch.
- 45:00
Speaker 1: The Olympics like I do, right, yeah, I mean yeah,
- 45:04
Speaker 1: oh does it show that they're like best friends?
- 45:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're they do like the reporting for figures
- 45:08
Speaker 3: getting together and so.
- 45:09
Speaker 2: They're yeah, but I don't know.
- 45:14
Speaker 1: I just feel like because it's not a lot of
- 45:16
Speaker 1: physical activity and you really just eat and like you
- 45:20
Speaker 1: just talk all day, you know, and I feel like
- 45:23
Speaker 1: I feel like.
- 45:23
Speaker 2: We would crush it.
- 45:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 45:25
Speaker 2: So Alan and Donna are my my double, my double.
- 45:30
Speaker 3: My eyes are burning. I think I rubbed my doctor
- 45:32
Speaker 3: melosin under I stick into my eye.
- 45:38
Speaker 2: Your eyes is it working?
- 45:40
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think so. I think this eye
- 45:42
Speaker 3: is working better than this. I but I think I
- 45:45
Speaker 3: rubbed my eye and it was still under there and
- 45:47
Speaker 3: now they're burning.
- 45:48
Speaker 1: Anyway, he wanted to get done with his bags, you guys,
- 45:51
Speaker 1: and I think he was trying to get rid of
- 45:52
Speaker 1: my bag, beautiful girl.
- 45:54
Speaker 3: So my last one is it's true crime as well.
- 45:58
Speaker 3: I've been very much in a true crime era, but
- 46:00
Speaker 3: it's a current case that's going on right now. Have
- 46:03
Speaker 3: you heard about the Brazilian how do I say this
- 46:06
Speaker 3: hold on au space pa I R? Is it all pair?
- 46:11
Speaker 3: All pair?
- 46:12
Speaker 2: And isn't it an all pair like Nanny?
- 46:15
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, so there is a Brazilian, oh pair who
- 46:21
Speaker 3: this trial is literally going on right now, Like she
- 46:23
Speaker 3: just testified. So her name is Joanna and she moved
- 46:29
Speaker 3: in with this family in Virginia. The dad's name is
- 46:34
Speaker 3: Brandon Banfield. Okay, so they fell in love. Julia is
- 46:39
Speaker 3: twenty five and the dad is forty. Okay, so they
- 46:43
Speaker 3: fell in love of course, right, and so she's living
- 46:45
Speaker 3: with them, taking care of their kid like whatever. Right,
- 46:49
Speaker 3: So they end up having an affair whatever it is.
- 46:52
Speaker 3: So then they decide we need to kill the wife.
- 46:56
Speaker 1: Okay, you guys lose me and I can see aside
- 47:00
Speaker 1: all the time, but like, isn't there a better way than.
- 47:03
Speaker 2: Murder, like like literally any other.
- 47:06
Speaker 3: Way, literally anything else? Like why? Why is the first thing?
- 47:09
Speaker 3: Like let's get you need to murder her? Okay. So
- 47:12
Speaker 3: this is where this ship gets fucking nuts. Okay. So
- 47:16
Speaker 3: this is the plan that they come up with. Right,
- 47:21
Speaker 3: got to get rid of their wife. We gotta kill her.
- 47:22
Speaker 2: Right.
- 47:23
Speaker 3: They steal the wife's laptop. Okay, go on a fetish
- 47:32
Speaker 3: seeker website called thatt Life. Okay, make a profile for
- 47:38
Speaker 3: the wife, okay, start messaging men that that she wants
- 47:45
Speaker 3: to fulfill her rape fantasy. Okay. She they basically they
- 47:50
Speaker 3: keep messaging these guys like, hey, this is what I'm into.
- 47:55
Speaker 3: Can we like set it up whatever. Now, most of
- 47:57
Speaker 3: the guys that they talk to are like, sure, but
- 48:03
Speaker 3: I want to meet you in person first, like, let's
- 48:05
Speaker 3: get a coffee, let's get a drink to like establish
- 48:07
Speaker 3: trust before I'm gonna come in and like do all
- 48:09
Speaker 3: this crazy shit that you want me to do to you. Right.
- 48:12
Speaker 3: Then they find this guy who's like, sure, down, I'll
- 48:16
Speaker 3: do it right, set up this date and basically like Okay,
- 48:21
Speaker 3: here's my address, here's the time, you're gonna come in,
- 48:24
Speaker 3: and no matter how much I scream or cry, you're
- 48:26
Speaker 3: gonna keep going right like whatever. And he's like, okay,
- 48:29
Speaker 3: bat So he shows up one night to like fulfill
- 48:33
Speaker 3: this fantasy with this woman right unbeknown It's like she
- 48:37
Speaker 3: doesn't know this is happening. Obviously he comes in whatever.
- 48:41
Speaker 3: Then the whole thing was then the husband was gonna
- 48:45
Speaker 3: come in and be like, oh, I'm saving my wife right,
- 48:49
Speaker 3: shoots them both. Okay, so now they're both dad okay,
- 48:53
Speaker 3: like insane.
- 48:54
Speaker 1: Then the O pair, So did they actually go through
- 48:58
Speaker 1: with the plans they killed them?
- 49:00
Speaker 3: They killed them both? Yes? Uh huh? So the O
- 49:02
Speaker 3: pair was the one that actually shot Like the fatal shot. Whatever.
- 49:07
Speaker 3: So she then gets a deal, a sweetheart deal from
- 49:13
Speaker 3: the prosecutor that is basically like, okay, cool, will for
- 49:17
Speaker 3: your testimony. We won't send you to jail, you'll have
- 49:21
Speaker 3: immunity and you can go back to Brazil. You can't
- 49:23
Speaker 3: live here, but you can go back to Brazil for
- 49:25
Speaker 3: your testimony. Whatever. So she just testified this week because
- 49:30
Speaker 3: they're trying to pin it on the husband, right and
- 49:32
Speaker 3: like find him guilty or whatever. So she was testified
- 49:38
Speaker 3: this week. Whatever was just like a complete like sure
- 49:42
Speaker 3: her testimony like wasn't holding water, Like she wasn't. I forgot,
- 49:45
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't whatever. Whatever, right, And so wait.
- 49:49
Speaker 2: I've never heard of a sweetheart deal. And she's allowed
- 49:51
Speaker 2: to testify not from here.
- 49:53
Speaker 3: No, she's here still, she's there being kept here. But
- 49:55
Speaker 3: she's like, once this trial's over, you gotta go, like
- 49:58
Speaker 3: you gotta go back to Brazil. Whatever.
- 50:00
Speaker 1: So they want to get him, and they they're in
- 50:03
Speaker 1: exchange for her talking.
- 50:04
Speaker 2: They okay, give her a meaning, but she's like still
- 50:06
Speaker 2: riding with him.
- 50:07
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it's giving. So then halfway through her testimony,
- 50:12
Speaker 3: they uncover that while she was in jail she's talking
- 50:15
Speaker 3: to Netflix about getting a deal of like to share
- 50:20
Speaker 3: her story with Netflix to like make a movie or
- 50:23
Speaker 3: a series out of it whatever, and the community. The
- 50:26
Speaker 3: latest communication they found of her talking to whoever on
- 50:28
Speaker 3: the outside is like, no, I need to go in.
- 50:34
Speaker 3: I need to reevaluate the deal. I need more money.
- 50:36
Speaker 3: I deserve more. And the prosecutor was basically like, you're
- 50:40
Speaker 3: saying you shot this woman, ruined woman.
- 50:45
Speaker 1: It's not enough that she's getting cheated on in her
- 50:47
Speaker 1: own home, yes, but that she then they put her
- 50:50
Speaker 1: on this website.
- 50:51
Speaker 2: They get her fucking, you know, sexually assaulted, and.
- 50:54
Speaker 3: They and then this woman turns around and say, well,
- 50:58
Speaker 3: I deserve more money in the procures like you shot someone,
- 51:02
Speaker 3: like you killed someone, you admitted to it, but you're
- 51:04
Speaker 3: sitting here saying you deserve more money to share your story.
- 51:08
Speaker 3: Like I cannot believe, Like this is like real life,
- 51:13
Speaker 3: fucking like a movie like playing.
- 51:15
Speaker 2: Out there where don't you find out about it?
- 51:16
Speaker 3: Absolutely insane? SoJ tj Amy and TJ Start did like
- 51:21
Speaker 3: an episode on it, and then they brought in they
- 51:24
Speaker 3: have this consultant. They it was a defense attorney and
- 51:27
Speaker 3: so like I love hearing her like take on it.
- 51:29
Speaker 3: She's independent. Obviously she's not involved in the case, but
- 51:31
Speaker 3: I love like her take just coming from a defense attorney.
- 51:34
Speaker 3: So then I've just been like going down and like
- 51:35
Speaker 3: reading everything about this, I'm like, this is fucking nuts,
- 51:38
Speaker 3: and the most like how are you not nailing this woman?
- 51:40
Speaker 3: Like they both should be on trial like whatever, like
- 51:43
Speaker 3: you think her testiment, like you bet it all on
- 51:45
Speaker 3: her testimony, but she's giving nothing right, but she already
- 51:49
Speaker 3: got the deal that she gets to like walk away
- 51:51
Speaker 3: Scott Freifter killing this woman, Like it's so fucking nuts.
- 51:55
Speaker 2: That's me un fucked. At first, I was like, well, okay,
- 51:57
Speaker 2: maybe I could.
- 51:57
Speaker 1: See that like power dynamics, like my husband comes on
- 52:00
Speaker 1: to her and you know, she's twenty five and whatever.
- 52:05
Speaker 1: I was trying to but like that alone should be
- 52:07
Speaker 1: like no, bitch, lock her up, right, Yeah, that's beyond.
- 52:10
Speaker 3: Like you're and you're also like you're twenty five, like
- 52:13
Speaker 3: so like you kind of have your wits about you.
- 52:15
Speaker 3: You're not you're sixteen.
- 52:16
Speaker 2: You know what is formed? I dude, this this wife
- 52:20
Speaker 2: that is now dead, did.
- 52:22
Speaker 3: Nothing zero long, yeah nothing.
- 52:24
Speaker 1: The kind of evil that is is actually like unfathomable.
- 52:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 52:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've been like going down these rabbit holes
- 52:32
Speaker 3: of like and like within like a within a very
- 52:36
Speaker 3: short amount of time after the wife's death, like the
- 52:39
Speaker 3: O pair like moved into the main bedroom and replaced
- 52:42
Speaker 3: a photo on the bedstead with like one of them
- 52:45
Speaker 3: and like took like the old photo, and like I
- 52:47
Speaker 3: was like, this woman is fucking nuts and we're just
- 52:50
Speaker 3: like letting her. How old are the kids walk away?
- 52:52
Speaker 3: It's just one kid and the little girl while this
- 52:56
Speaker 3: is all going on. The little girl gets left like
- 52:57
Speaker 3: downstairs with an iPad, like while all all of this
- 53:00
Speaker 3: is going on, like the mother and like all that
- 53:02
Speaker 3: shit's go like fucking nuts, like nuts nuts nuts.
- 53:07
Speaker 1: I will never understand that the move that it honestly
- 53:11
Speaker 1: seems like women do it too, but like it seems
- 53:14
Speaker 1: like it's more often men to where they're like I'm
- 53:17
Speaker 1: having an affair and I'm too scared to just like
- 53:19
Speaker 1: sit down with my wife and be like, yay, I'm
- 53:21
Speaker 1: in love with someone else.
- 53:22
Speaker 2: Maybe we should split, Right, you want to avoid.
- 53:25
Speaker 1: That conversation so bad that you jump to murder something
- 53:28
Speaker 1: that almost no one ever gets away.
- 53:30
Speaker 3: Worse, right, with so much premeditation, like beyond and you're doing.
- 53:36
Speaker 1: Shit on a laptop like I don't understand. Also that
- 53:39
Speaker 1: level of stupid, like you are fucking idiots, my friend.
- 53:43
Speaker 2: That's just gonna like what the hell that's crazy?
- 53:47
Speaker 1: Okay, do I only have one more? Because you need
- 53:48
Speaker 1: me like totally sweat Okay? No, no, no, I'm saying.
- 53:52
Speaker 3: I've like gone down, like I've been like reading everything
- 53:54
Speaker 3: I can find about this case because I'm like this
- 53:56
Speaker 3: is insane.
- 53:57
Speaker 1: Yeah No, I'm just saying you made me switch my
- 53:58
Speaker 1: number five. I want to talk about the rabbit holes
- 54:01
Speaker 1: that I'm in, the cases I'm on right now. So
- 54:05
Speaker 1: I am on and there's this one woman that I'm
- 54:07
Speaker 1: following and I forget her handle. She just like pops up.
- 54:09
Speaker 1: But I'm on two rabbit holes right now that involve murder.
- 54:13
Speaker 3: The first one is this episode is about murder, right,
- 54:17
Speaker 3: the murder episode that's the Yeah.
- 54:19
Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely or like just like murder. Okay.
- 54:25
Speaker 1: First of all, and this is there's a lot of
- 54:28
Speaker 1: people that think this.
- 54:29
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how I feel about it yet.
- 54:31
Speaker 1: I haven't formed my opinion. However, you know how I
- 54:34
Speaker 1: was really deep into the Idaho for and just like
- 54:39
Speaker 1: I don't know just the weight of it all, like
- 54:42
Speaker 1: these college kids, I of course, like feel heartbroken for
- 54:46
Speaker 1: the victims and the kids, like I don't know what
- 54:49
Speaker 1: it was, but I was ingesting it so much that
- 54:50
Speaker 1: I actually had to stop, like it was starting to
- 54:52
Speaker 1: affect me anyways. So there was a bunch of stuff
- 54:55
Speaker 1: recently that was unsealed. Did you did you see all this?
- 54:58
Speaker 1: They unsealed a ton of photos from the They unsealed
- 55:01
Speaker 1: stuff from the case, and stuff is kind of contradicting itself.
- 55:05
Speaker 1: And there is a whole subculture of people that feel
- 55:09
Speaker 1: very positive that this was a setup, that like Brian
- 55:16
Speaker 1: isn't even the one that did it, and there may
- 55:20
Speaker 1: be something with drugs or the roommates how they handled it. Like,
- 55:25
Speaker 1: there's this whole subculture of people that like think nothing
- 55:28
Speaker 1: adds up.
- 55:30
Speaker 2: And I was always like very compassionate for the girls.
- 55:33
Speaker 1: Yes, it's crazy to me that you might have heard
- 55:34
Speaker 1: something and then you wait all night to like call,
- 55:37
Speaker 1: But I also know what shock can do to the
- 55:40
Speaker 1: body and fear can do the body. And this one
- 55:43
Speaker 1: girl that Dylan I think is the one, like she's
- 55:47
Speaker 1: just was always scared of everything. So I can understand
- 55:50
Speaker 1: like running to your friend's bed like you're a dumb
- 55:51
Speaker 1: college kid. And by the way, they were probably drunk.
- 55:54
Speaker 1: So I've always been very like defensive of them, being
- 55:57
Speaker 1: like why you wait till long?
- 55:58
Speaker 2: And what did you do?
- 55:58
Speaker 1: Like they don't know how to can handle this, and
- 56:00
Speaker 1: if you saw someone like, your brain does crazy things
- 56:03
Speaker 1: when you're in shock. But there is an entire subculture
- 56:05
Speaker 1: of people that like really think this is all a
- 56:07
Speaker 1: setup and it's kind of getting wild and crazy.
- 56:10
Speaker 2: So I've been in that rabbit hole.
- 56:12
Speaker 1: And I'm also in the rabbit hole of the dentist
- 56:16
Speaker 1: and his wife who were murdered inside their house.
- 56:20
Speaker 2: So they're in Ohio and I.
- 56:24
Speaker 1: Think I told you that they the guy from here,
- 56:28
Speaker 1: yeah story, Well.
- 56:30
Speaker 2: The guy that murdered them allegedly yeah.
- 56:32
Speaker 3: Lived here or lives here? Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, I
- 56:35
Speaker 3: do know that story now that you're talking.
- 56:37
Speaker 1: So there's a but like not him, like he's allegedly bad. Yeah,
- 56:40
Speaker 1: there's a dentist and his wife who got who were
- 56:43
Speaker 1: found murdered. And the reason that they found that they
- 56:46
Speaker 1: were murdered he didn't show up for work. They were like,
- 56:49
Speaker 1: this is very much not like him, and so then
- 56:52
Speaker 1: they do a wellness check. Something gets messed up with
- 56:54
Speaker 1: the wellness check, and honestly shout out to his coworkers
- 56:56
Speaker 1: because they're like, this doesn't sit right. So they go
- 56:59
Speaker 1: back and they look through the windows and they see
- 57:01
Speaker 1: the husband's like body dead, but they hear.
- 57:03
Speaker 2: The children crying. The children were in there the entire
- 57:05
Speaker 2: fucking time.
- 57:06
Speaker 1: So like at first, we're like who, But there was
- 57:09
Speaker 1: no quote unquote sign of forced entry and they had
- 57:11
Speaker 1: a key padlock, so everyone was like mystified by this
- 57:16
Speaker 1: and it's such a sad story. Okay, So now what
- 57:20
Speaker 1: they think happened allegedly is that her ex husband they've
- 57:24
Speaker 1: been divorced for like I want to say, four years, okay,
- 57:27
Speaker 1: never had kids, which is scary in itself, like you
- 57:31
Speaker 1: can move on with your life, get remarried, and then
- 57:33
Speaker 1: randomly your husband decides to murder you. But what they
- 57:37
Speaker 1: think that this man did who lives here in a
- 57:39
Speaker 1: luxury building which I'm like dying to know which one. Yeah,
- 57:43
Speaker 1: because his neighbors are now speaking and like, okay, they
- 57:46
Speaker 1: think that he They don't know why he did it,
- 57:49
Speaker 1: yet allegedly they think that he uh so he is
- 57:53
Speaker 1: an er doctor, I think you can reserve a cot.
- 57:56
Speaker 1: I guess at a hospital, doctors can. I don't know
- 57:59
Speaker 1: if it's like if it's surgery goes along or you
- 58:01
Speaker 1: double shift or whatever, you're tired, you can't go home, gadata,
- 58:04
Speaker 1: So he reserved a cop.
- 58:06
Speaker 2: He left his phone in the cot that he reserved.
- 58:09
Speaker 1: He worked an entire shift, So imagine gave people surgery
- 58:12
Speaker 1: like whatever. Like imagine if you're one of his patients
- 58:14
Speaker 1: and you're seeing this on the news. By the way,
- 58:16
Speaker 1: he has no lips, which my axes.
- 58:18
Speaker 3: Because of a very looking, funny looking face.
- 58:20
Speaker 2: Where are his lips?
- 58:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my exes Nana always said, never trust someone
- 58:24
Speaker 1: with thin lips. And I look at him and I'm like, well,
- 58:26
Speaker 1: he has no lips, Like, I don't fucking trust this guy.
- 58:29
Speaker 2: So he left his.
- 58:29
Speaker 1: Phone, drove all the way to Ohio, murders them. I
- 58:33
Speaker 1: think maybe they think he picked the backlock. That's why
- 58:35
Speaker 1: there was no sign, drives all the way back to
- 58:37
Speaker 1: the hospital, goes back into the cot, lays down, then
- 58:41
Speaker 1: proceeds to work another like fucking fourteen hour shift or something.
- 58:45
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you're his patient and you look
- 58:48
Speaker 1: on the news and You're like, I just got surgery
- 58:51
Speaker 1: and the mental illness or whatever it is that it
- 58:55
Speaker 1: takes to be able to like want to save some
- 58:58
Speaker 1: people murder?
- 59:00
Speaker 2: Are your ex and her husband all without any fucking sleep?
- 59:04
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what kind of side coaches season,
- 59:07
Speaker 1: but that's crazy, like a doctor doing that. So those
- 59:14
Speaker 1: are my two uh murder rabbit holes that I'm in
- 59:16
Speaker 1: right now, and they just keep getting crazier and crazy,
- 59:19
Speaker 1: like yeah, but he does live here, and I'm like
- 59:20
Speaker 1: dying to know where he lives.
- 59:23
Speaker 3: Watched it like your building, my neighbor. No, no, oh
- 59:30
Speaker 3: my god, Okay, do you want to do your crush out?
- 59:32
Speaker 1: I will, yes, yes, my friends, my friend was the
- 59:36
Speaker 1: neighbor of a dude who murdered his wife, and his
- 59:39
Speaker 1: dad was like on the news, like defending the guy
- 59:42
Speaker 1: before he knew. Yeah, like he was like, no, he
- 59:45
Speaker 1: could have never done this, and now that just like
- 59:47
Speaker 1: lives in infamy because you know what I mean, right,
- 59:51
Speaker 1: like girl, okay my crash out mm hmm, okay, okay,
- 59:58
Speaker 1: you know my walks home from work or an adventure.
- 1:00:02
Speaker 1: This is this is no different. So I want to
- 1:00:05
Speaker 1: say maybe it was yesterday I'm walking home and I
- 1:00:10
Speaker 1: have to walk through a ton of tourists, always you know,
- 1:00:12
Speaker 1: taking photos on the bridge, always people taking photos in
- 1:00:16
Speaker 1: front of the Trump, and I can't figure out like
- 1:00:19
Speaker 1: some are probably just like fans of his, but some
- 1:00:21
Speaker 1: are also doing it because they're like, yo, I'm in America.
- 1:00:23
Speaker 2: This shit's crazy. Like there's a Trump building.
- 1:00:25
Speaker 1: Whatever walking by the like I but I always go
- 1:00:30
Speaker 1: like this, like I'm like anyway, So I'm walking and
- 1:00:34
Speaker 1: this guy and there was a language barrier and.
- 1:00:36
Speaker 2: He's excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, can you you
- 1:00:38
Speaker 2: know whatever?
- 1:00:39
Speaker 1: And he's showing me take his photo and like I
- 1:00:41
Speaker 1: already don't want to do it, but like I'm like.
- 1:00:42
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever.
- 1:00:43
Speaker 1: So he poses, but he gets in line in front
- 1:00:46
Speaker 1: of the Trump and he's not able to speak to
- 1:00:49
Speaker 1: me in English, but he's he's pointing like get the
- 1:00:51
Speaker 1: Trump sign in there, get the Trump sign in there.
- 1:00:54
Speaker 1: And I I'm like, I'm such like I'm uncomfortable because
- 1:00:57
Speaker 1: I with confrontation because I'm not going to just tell
- 1:01:00
Speaker 1: someone no. But also I was like, should I just
- 1:01:02
Speaker 1: like try to not get the like this is against
- 1:01:05
Speaker 1: my religion?
- 1:01:05
Speaker 2: Why do I do? So I was like, should I
- 1:01:08
Speaker 2: just get it low. So I take one picture.
- 1:01:10
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really annoyed that I at myself and I'm
- 1:01:12
Speaker 1: like doing this and then he goes, no, no, no,
- 1:01:15
Speaker 1: keep going and he's changing his poses. He's screaming at me,
- 1:01:19
Speaker 1: do not stop taking his photo, And finally I was like,
- 1:01:22
Speaker 1: you're so fucking I was like, dude, no, like stop,
- 1:01:25
Speaker 1: You're literally screaming at me and you're doing all these
- 1:01:28
Speaker 1: poses in front of the Trump.
- 1:01:31
Speaker 2: And we're like we're like fighting, and I'm.
- 1:01:35
Speaker 1: Like River, I literally go no, no time, stop because
- 1:01:40
Speaker 1: like I'm already in this position that I don't want
- 1:01:42
Speaker 1: to be in. And he's screaming at me, pointing at
- 1:01:45
Speaker 1: the sign and he's literally like like I was like, bro,
- 1:01:50
Speaker 1: so I'm mad at him, Like you're yelling at me.
- 1:01:53
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this.
- 1:01:54
Speaker 1: How do you have the audacity? Like I don't culturally
- 1:01:58
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe it's like more what I I don't know,
- 1:02:00
Speaker 1: but like I was like.
- 1:02:01
Speaker 3: This is not normal, right, This is not how you
- 1:02:04
Speaker 3: act here? Right?
- 1:02:05
Speaker 1: Why are you yelling at me to take a million
- 1:02:08
Speaker 1: photos of you in front of the doing sexy? Can
- 1:02:12
Speaker 1: you imagine like someone drives and by and it's like
- 1:02:15
Speaker 1: me just like hell yeah, baby, get in there. So
- 1:02:19
Speaker 1: I was really pissed off at myself for not standing
- 1:02:21
Speaker 1: up for myself and also at him, no no, no
- 1:02:26
Speaker 1: more more.
- 1:02:26
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, right, no, absolutely not, You're gonna use.
- 1:02:31
Speaker 1: And then he got pissed at me and I just
- 1:02:33
Speaker 1: like walked away. I was like, dude, this is crazy.
- 1:02:36
Speaker 1: So that's my crash out mine is.
- 1:02:38
Speaker 3: I think I'm finally at the age where I don't
- 1:02:40
Speaker 3: like the iPhone updates. So I updated my phone to
- 1:02:44
Speaker 3: the liquid Glass update or whatever.
- 1:02:47
Speaker 2: It looks like Glinda's bubble. I'm like, what are we doing?
- 1:02:50
Speaker 3: And I'm mad about it. And I normally I like
- 1:02:53
Speaker 3: every update because I like to stay, you know, top
- 1:02:56
Speaker 3: on top of the newest what's happening. Right, Uh, I
- 1:03:01
Speaker 3: hate it. My battery life is shit. Literally my phone dies.
- 1:03:04
Speaker 3: My phone always dies at least once a day, like
- 1:03:06
Speaker 3: or gets to the point where it's like gonna die. Yeah,
- 1:03:09
Speaker 3: I'm not to the point where I'm at like three
- 1:03:11
Speaker 3: times a day, like I might as well just have
- 1:03:13
Speaker 3: like a corded phone at the point, like, because this
- 1:03:15
Speaker 3: is not the vibe. Also, I feel like the facial
- 1:03:18
Speaker 3: recognition is not as good. I used to be able
- 1:03:21
Speaker 3: to hold it at multiple different angles and it would work.
- 1:03:23
Speaker 3: Now I literally have to Now it's like failed and
- 1:03:25
Speaker 3: I have to like put it all the way up
- 1:03:26
Speaker 3: to my fucking face or to fucking work. Also, don't
- 1:03:29
Speaker 3: like then when I go to unlock it, it unlocks
- 1:03:31
Speaker 3: with my phone my face half the time, but then
- 1:03:34
Speaker 3: it pauses and then it makes me put the number
- 1:03:35
Speaker 3: in any way. That's not fun. This is not good.
- 1:03:39
Speaker 3: You guys did not eat with this update. And I
- 1:03:42
Speaker 3: think that it just wants me to get a new
- 1:03:44
Speaker 3: phone because I have a twelve and so they're probably
- 1:03:46
Speaker 3: like year old. You need to get a new phone.
- 1:03:49
Speaker 3: So that's my crashout is I don't like the iPhone updates.
- 1:03:53
Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's also like more like pop
- 1:03:55
Speaker 1: ups and like scams coming through your iPhone, like when
- 1:04:00
Speaker 1: you're on websites or is my phone does it just
- 1:04:02
Speaker 1: have like a bog because I thought Apple products could
- 1:04:04
Speaker 1: not get viruses.
- 1:04:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get pop ups as much, but I
- 1:04:08
Speaker 3: do feel like now you have to click more times
- 1:04:13
Speaker 3: to do the same thing that you were trying to
- 1:04:16
Speaker 3: do before. Yeah, I feel like the way they've consolidated stuff,
- 1:04:20
Speaker 3: like now if I want to share a link, I
- 1:04:22
Speaker 3: have to open the options tab, then go to share,
- 1:04:27
Speaker 3: then pick which way I want to share where versus
- 1:04:29
Speaker 3: it was like the share button was already there. You
- 1:04:31
Speaker 3: just click it once and then you click that like
- 1:04:33
Speaker 3: it's like more steps now, like everything is harder, you know,
- 1:04:38
Speaker 3: like yeah, like I thought we were moving forward, we're
- 1:04:41
Speaker 3: giving moving backward, like.
- 1:04:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't I don't decide.
- 1:04:45
Speaker 1: I always say no on the update, no no, no,
- 1:04:47
Speaker 1: but then like you wake up and did it it
- 1:04:49
Speaker 1: updated to and it's like all the different languages like hello, right,
- 1:04:53
Speaker 1: like I.
- 1:04:53
Speaker 3: Didn't answer for this right being venido.
- 1:04:55
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's weird. The texting is weird.
- 1:04:58
Speaker 1: I have not found a future that I love about
- 1:05:01
Speaker 1: it yet, but okay, that's relatable.
- 1:05:04
Speaker 3: I'm assuming another one will come down where it fixes
- 1:05:07
Speaker 3: the bugs and that's what I'm waiting for. Yeah, but yeah,
- 1:05:11
Speaker 3: I'm not not happy in not living.
- 1:05:13
Speaker 2: No fingers crossed. Okay, well, Guide you're back. Yeah it's
- 1:05:17
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- 1:05:22
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- 1:05:31
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- 1:05:35
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- 1:05:43
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- 1:05:44
Speaker 2: I think wat No, I don't know if that's real.
- 1:05:46
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- 1:05:50
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- 1:05:54
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- 1:06:02
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- 1:06:05
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- 1:06:06
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- 1:06:07
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- 1:06:10
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- 1:06:11
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Speaker 3: O K A y L y N?
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Speaker 2: I hate you? How do I switch?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. You can't do anything on your phone
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Speaker 3: anymore with a new update. They're like, you need to
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Speaker 3: buy a new phone.
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Speaker 2: How do I look?
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Speaker 3: We're also working on getting some guests too, so if
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Speaker 3: you guys have suggestions, please let us know who you'd
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Speaker 3: like to have.
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Speaker 2: Do you have like, do you have people that you
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Speaker 2: want to have on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm working on it.
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Speaker 2: You are did you reach out? Okay? Switching work things? Okay? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: The Top five podcast?
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Speaker 1: We have four subscriber Hell yeah, subscribe so much.
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Speaker 2: On there, you guys, it's great so much. There's so
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Speaker 2: much content.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the Top five pod at the Top five pod. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so and maybe i'll post like little reels or something.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Gribe, I'm trying shout out to Myra.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we should get a Jennifer Tree.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do I do that?
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Speaker 3: I think it's a paid service, but we can pay
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Speaker 3: for it and then it just gives you like a
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Speaker 3: link of like all the different places you can find us.
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Speaker 3: We need and make sure if you're listening on Apple
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Speaker 3: Podcasts that you hit subscribe and then the new episodes
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Speaker 3: will automatically just come to your notifications.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, people were trying to find the one where I
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Speaker 1: was crying, which I was like, you guys want to
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Speaker 1: find this so bad. Like people were like people who
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Speaker 1: don't listen to this podcast were like, how do I
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Speaker 1: find the episode? I'm like that's interesting, but they were like,
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Speaker 1: there's like so many Top five pod is.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, Like, but I don't know.
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Speaker 1: You guys, just if you save it, it'll pop right up.
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Speaker 2: We'd love you so much and.
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Speaker 3: I'll like subscribe, leave a comment.
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Speaker 2: Exactly my good stuff. All right, I'm gonna call this
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Speaker 2: mor her god bye.
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Speaker 3: Let me go, try to figure out to put the
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Speaker 3: two halves together. Okay bye,