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Behind The Scenes of Rouge: The Sexiest Show In Vegas with Zion and Poppy · The Kink Consultant

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  It's the King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
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  on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
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  So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
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  to it. Hey everyone and welcome to a
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  very special episode of The King Consultant because we are in
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  person with Zion and Poppy of Rouge.
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  If you guys remember correctly, I am reviewing all of the
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  kinkiest shows in Vegas and I very easily awarded Rouge #1
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  Kinkiest show in Vegas. You guys fucking rocked.
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  It had to have you on just to get inside your brains of how
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  you created such a wonderful show.
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  Welcome. Thanks for having us.
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  We're very happy to be here. Yeah.
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  Thank you. We're really excited to be here.
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  The elephant in the room is you made such a kinky show, you must
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  be kinky, right? Not really.
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  We've often been described as people's most interesting
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  vanilla friends. So we're a monogamous
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  relationship. We've been together 11 years.
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  We have kids. We're very like.
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  Family. Family orientated, but we really
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  love hearing about what crazy things people do and how they do
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  it and what people are into. And I feel like doing the show,
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  we've actually learned a lot because if the audience yells
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  out something that we've never heard of before, we'll always go
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  and look it up or something. So I feel like we're so much
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  more knowledgeable now from doing the show.
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  Yeah, and we're good at pretending we know what people
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  are talking about because what we found a lot when we opened is
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  like, the owner of the show and the producers and even some of
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  the tech people were like, whoa, this guy knows everything.
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  He knows all these crazy things. What's he into?
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  And I'm like, no, I'm Googling them.
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  Yeah, I'm running backstage and I'm going Urban Dictionary.
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  What is this? I have that I call myself the
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  King consultant and I run into things and I'm like what the
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  Frick is this? And I'm just like, I'm actually
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  not familiar with that term, but I can't believe you guys do it.
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  So I wanna start by saying I hope everyone who comes to Vegas
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  goes to see Rouge. I say that because I saw Rouge
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  maybe a year and a half ago and it's what prompted me to start
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  Kinky's show in Vegas because I was like oh if this show is so
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  kinky there must be a ton of shows like this and I have to
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  say, Rouge is a cut above the rest.
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  Not saying anything negative about all the other amazing
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  shows I've been to, but I felt like you guys were the most
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  authentically kinky. In our opinion, we do a lot of
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  the improv comedy. Yeah, There's a lot of
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  opportunity for people to bring what they want.
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  And a lot of the time they say stuff that I never would have
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  thought of. Last night someone said child
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  support still don't know what they were talking about.
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  I don't understand it but I mean.
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  Man or woman? It was a guy.
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  It was a young guy with his friend.
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  I was just like, I made a bunch of jokes about it.
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  I was just trying to figure out what he meant by that.
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  But that's what I mean. You never know what they're
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  going to say. I am so glad I got to chat to
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  you guys after the show and now when I watched the show I was
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  like, oh this must be scripted. I thought there were moments
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  where you were whispering to people what to answer because
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  you were so quick with the responses.
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  He is very quick here. OK, big question.
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  There's a lot of audience interaction.
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  I loved that about it. You ask people what their
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  fantasy is, right? Yeah.
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  How many people say threesome? So many, I would say that's like
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  the most common response when we go down.
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  So many people say threesome and it's such an easy answer because
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  I try not to just use the same answer.
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  But they're four person tables, yes.
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  So instantly you just say, oh, that's awkward, Which one of you
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  is getting left out? But it's so common.
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  So the big ones are doggy style, reverse cowgirl, anal, threesome
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  and then 69 as well. I said 69.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's like the big
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  ones that you hear majority of the time.
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  And the hard part is not getting stuck in a loop of just saying
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  the same exact answer every night.
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  Well, no one else would know. But once it stops being funny to
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  me, it stops being funny to them.
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  That's a good point. OK, I do have more questions on
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  this. OK, Yeah, I think audience
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  interaction, it makes me nervous.
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  I get to edit myself to the Max usually.
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  How are you so good and calm like?
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  Do you have tips? So what I find the hardest part
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  of it is to actually filter and not say the things that you
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  initially think. Okay, that's by far the hardest
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  thing is don't overcomplicate it.
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  Especially in Vegas, so much of our audience don't even speak
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  English as their first language, which actually I have
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  workarounds for some of that as well.
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  But you just don't overcomplicate it and just
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  remember they're way more nervous than you are, so you
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  don't need to beat them down with something really horrible
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  or really mean. A little pun, a little dad joke
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  is fine, you know? And if you can't think of
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  anything, you know, it always just works.
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  Going. I have no idea what the hell
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  that is, but I'm gonna look it up.
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  There might have been one time you said that, I don't know, but
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  that's really good. But can we just pause the
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  beautiful Australian accents you have for.
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  Oh, yeah, Those are your actual accents.
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  Yes. You're from Australia.
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  Yeah, but that's not how you sound in the show.
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  No. So we put on like Southern
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  accents for the show. We keep it pretty vague because
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  we have a lot of international audience members.
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  If we go too hard with the accent, which is what we did
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  when we first opened, a lot of them can't understand the
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  English. So we, you know, keep it a
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  little bit more like lighter, but still have the twang in
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  there. Yeah, and we kind of like that.
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  We never address it because people think it's going to be
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  for some joke or like especially I think there's a real thing in
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  America we found where people think you gonna make fun of the
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  Southern accent because it's silly Southern, nothing like
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  that. It's just the.
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  It's just the character. We never address it, we never
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  bring it up. It's just how it is.
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  I. Definitely at least thought you
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  were American. You know, the accent is so well
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  done and I don't know if the American accent is easy to do.
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  Did you get any training? No, but we have both done some
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  accent stuff in the past and not Southern.
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  We did a different American. Yeah, but I don't know.
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  It just worked. They were like, we want an
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  accent and we were like, what accent?
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  And they said we don't know. So I was like, I'll try this
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  one. And it felt right, but.
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  When they presented the costumes to us, we thought that that
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  accent would go really well with how the costumes looked because
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  there's like a little bit of the Kentucky style tie, you know,
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  like the. Yeah.
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  It's almost like as soon as I see you, I know that's going to
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  be an accent because it is that like almost 1800s, yeah.
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  There's like look, yes, with a bit of steampunk thrown in
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  there, which it's a cool look, but it just didn't feel right
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  with the Australian accent, to be honest with you.
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  It seemed a bit misaligned, yeah.
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  Which they picked up on. Oh, and I didn't even properly
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  introduce you guys. Do you guys call yourself the
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  creators of Rouge? No.
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  So we host Rouge. So we do the comedy and the
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  acrobatics. We didn't create the show.
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  There's a director who, you know, got acts from all over the
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  world and choreographer to do all the dancing and everything.
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  But we do all of our comedy and. Yes, so we kind of created all
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  of the comedy and stuff, but like with them.
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  So there's like a boss above us who we had all these ideas and
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  we're like, hey, and then he would be like, yes, no, yes, you
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  know what I mean? Yeah, I guess final say and
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  everything. He's the owner, he's the
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  creator. Yes, and it's a fantastic show.
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  But I do think the comedy is what actually sets it apart,
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  because it is my favorite thing in a show.
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  When there's audience work and you're actually having
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  conversations with people about their actual sex lives or
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  fantasies or jokes. I think that's what makes it fun
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  and interesting and unique. I think it makes it really
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  interactive as well. You know, you're not just there
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  watching TV. It's like you become a part of
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  the show. And we can really tell the
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  moment when the show shifts from like just watching things and
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  clapping to then, oh great, I can be like a part of this now.
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  And it's a bit of like a pick your own adventure.
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  If people go really hard with things, we'll go there too.
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  But if they're a bit more conservative, we won't go as
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  like full on with. Yeah, Here's a funny thing that
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  I found is that I never swear until they swear.
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  And then I found that that really helps with keeping the
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  tone because it's a topless show, because it's a sexy show.
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  I don't want to be the one bringing it there.
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  So I'll wait. And if they swear, I'm swearing.
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  Or maybe I'll say one word later on in the show, but I try not to
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  swear. Which seems strange for such an
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  intense show, but I feel like it keeps a bit more of a class to
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  it. And then if they go dirty, I'm
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  going dirty with them. I love that.
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  That's good life advice. I'm always the first to curse.
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  Like if a curse word's going to be said, I'm the one who's
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  saying it. So I'm like, oh, I need to take
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  that in my own life. Do you ever get people angry?
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  I make some pretty full on jokes at people sometimes.
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  I feel like the number one time people get angry with Rouge is
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  if it's a couple and the sexy topless acts start and the wife
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  is like what did you bring me to?
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  As if the husband brought her there because he wanted to see.
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  Boobs. Which I think is hilarious
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  because if he wanted to see boobs, he'd go on the Internet.
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  Oh yeah, he buys you tickets in the VIP to a show in Vegas.
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  He's doing it for you. He's not doing it because he
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  wants to see it. That's how I.
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  Feel I feel well, I feel you guys bill yourself as the
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  sexiest show in Vegas, right? Yes, and it is extremely sexy,
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  but come on, like you're in Vegas.
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  The advertising kind of shows what it's going to be.
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  If you don't know what you're coming to see, I can understand
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  that you'd be a bit shocked. But if someone's bought you
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  tickets, just look it up, you know, see what you're going to
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  go. Yeah, it's not common, but when
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  I see people upset, that's generally what it is.
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  So it's not your actual interaction.
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  I don't think so. I think people get that we're
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  like comedians and we're, you know, just having a good time.
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  And if like it has happened once or twice where I've gone down
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  there and are we trying up swear?
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  No, you swear the whole time. Yeah, OK, great.
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  All right, because I go down there and I'll go like, what's
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  your fantasy? And this one guy was really, he
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  goes fuck you. Oh, and I went back and I said,
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  say that again on the microphone.
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  He did. And I said, my guy wants to fuck
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  me. I'm his fantasy.
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  And then he starts laughing because it's so silly, you know,
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  or they'll be like your mother. And then I'll just start calling
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  them daddy for the rest of the show.
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  You know, like I just go into it.
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  I'm like, say whatever you want. You're not going to get
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  offended. And then?
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  Yeah, I think people as well, they try to get a reaction,
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  which is really fun for us. So people come and they're like
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  trying to say things that are provoking us because then it
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  gives you something to work with, you know?
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  Yeah, but I don't push it. If they don't want to say
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  anything, they're really shy. I'll whatever.
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  I'll just be like, I'm not here to bully and make some noise.
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  Yeah, yeah. Next person, if they go, oh man,
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  I go, oh, man, you know, Yeah. Oh shit.
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  Oh, shit. Fantasy.
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  You play off of it. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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  It's. Not that serious.
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  Yeah, I am as open as I am. I get really shy during those
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  moments. I'm always really impressed with
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  the people who do answer or, you know, the ones who really go
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  with it. I'm like, good for them.
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  I'm impressed. Absolutely, yeah.
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  And some people really go for it as well.
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  Old married couples. Old married couples, yes, they
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  are the ones to pick. They have no.
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  What's it called like? Barrel filter they.
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  Don't mind at all, they will just say what it is and that
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  even sometimes they'll try and invite us to their swinger party
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  and we're like thanks to the invite we're not going but.
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  There is a lot of like sexual tourism in Vegas.
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  Understandably, there's like a lot to offer.
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  Ironically, BDSM is illegal here.
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  Like you're not allowed to have a public dungeon.
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  You can have as many swingers parties as you want in sex
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  parties, but dungeons are not allowed.
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  Wow. That explains why Excalibur
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  didn't monopolize on that. The dungeon side of it.
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  I mean, it's a castle, it should have had a dungeon.
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  It should, especially since it's a very kinky thing.
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  We have a lot of weird match ideas.
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  I've been trying to get the Strat to make Strat ONS strap on
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  Strat the. Strat is a perfect.
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  You know phallic. They do it for the Eiffel Tower
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  in Paris. And they're not receptive.
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  Wow, they were actually pretty receptive about it, but they
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  didn't do. It they loved the.
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  Idea our boss was worried about pitching it but the owner of the
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  Strat liked it when I told him but then it didn't happen.
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  That's tough because it's like this is a city where you want to
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  stand out or stand up, whatever way you want to think about it.
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  I like that idea. And then they went ahead and
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  they built Atomic Golf underneath.
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  Yeah, I said they gave it balls. Oh.
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  My gosh, how have I never thought of these things?
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  Well, we've been together hosting adult shows since I was
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  like 22. It's like what we're typecast to
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  do. We've been doing it a long time.
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  We did St. shows before that. And when you do St. shows, it's
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  a whole different ball game. It's so much harder because
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  people are not there to see you. You have to convince them you're
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  worth saying. Yeah, you have to, like, build a
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  notes. So how did you 2 meet?
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  We met at circus school and actually, funnily enough, so
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  orientation week, the first day of meeting we moved in, the next
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  day together we met and then we were living together the next
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  day. In a weird like we're in between
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  places, let's be with each other.
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  No, no, no. We were a couple.
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  We were a couple immediately. The next day.
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  Yeah, How long we been together? 11 years.
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  Like you were each others. Last, we've spent two days apart
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  in 11 years. What?
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  Were those two days for? The night before getting married
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  and one of the first weeks that we met because for some reason.
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  She still had her apartment as well, so she spent a night
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  there, but then she was late to circus school the next day,
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  which was the only time she was ever late.
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  And so we were like, you should probably just stay with me.
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  Because he pulls my ass out of it.
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  That is the cutest story. So you're just like, once you
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  guys met each other, that was it.
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  Yeah, they were very clingy. I understand.
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  Wait, what happens when 2 clingy people get together?
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  Yeah. You're very clingy, but also
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  obviously very comfortable in the work you do, like you guys
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  do very provocative acts. People flirt with you both,
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  presumably, right? Yeah.
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  You have the mustache in real life.
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  That's who you are, Poppy. You show up with a wig.
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  Yeah, I look so different. You look so different.
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  It's very exaggerated. I don't know what it is.
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  You have an amazing. Wig.
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  It's incredible. I think a drag queen in Vegas
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  makes the wig. So it's like huge, huge.
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  Red when she used to wear massive fake boobs as well with
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  the costume but then she had to stop wearing it when she got
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  pregnant because of breastfeeding and everything.
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  Yes, so. Milk would just be a nice it's
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  so tight. That was not part of the kinky,
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  by the way. Although she was in the show
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  till 40 weeks pregnant, so it kind of became part of the show.
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  You guys told me that, right? You said, oh, it's on Instagram.
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  So of course, as soon as you guys walked away, I got on
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  Instagram. I was like, no way.
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  There are acts that you do. And I cannot imagine you being
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  40 weeks pregnant. So Zion flips me on his feet in
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  the show, and the more pregnant I got, the more round I got and
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  the better it was for like, rolling because I became like a
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  human ball pretty much. So she still still did the flips
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  until 35 weeks, and then she just did five weeks of comedy
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  till 40 weeks. At 40 weeks, the casino said,
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  all right, all right, get off the stage.
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  And that was like, fair enough. They're like, it's a nice way.
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  They were very nice. Well.
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  I was gonna say in an American way, I'd be like, I'd be so
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  nervous that you would hurt yourself on.
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  Stage we had to sign a bunch of forms.
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  Oh, OK. Yeah, of course.
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  And I was very closely monitored by my midwives.
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  And actually the brother of my boss is a gynecologist as well.
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  So he was like talking to me on the phone and like helping me
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  with, you know, things that could happen and whatnot.
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  So I knew like, what tricks I should have in the show and
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  which ones I should take out. They were maybe a bit more too
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  risky, you know, that's. Always really helpful because
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  even just any type of thing that you were doing.
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  My sister's pregnant right now and it's just how her life had
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  to change. But she doesn't even do a
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  physical job like, yeah, you do. That's crazy.
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  She is pregnant again right now, so it's we're going through it
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  all again. Congratulations.
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  Are you going to change anything this time around versus like
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  when you and heart? It's interesting because
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  everyone always says no pregnancy is the same even if
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  you get pregnant again it can be like really different to the
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  first time and I've already noticed.
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  Now the first time my equilibrium, my balance went off
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  straight away so we had to cut out the hand to hand acts that
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  we did in the French scene. Or is this time around I feel
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  fine. I have no problem with my
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  balance whatsoever. If anything I feel completely
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  normal. Normal in that respect.
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  But then my the ABS have split earlier on because my body
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  remembers being pregnant. It happens a bit quicker, so I'm
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  actually finding the flips a little bit more challenging so
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  he has to do more work. To like give you momentum and
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  things like that. Oh my gosh, no one understands
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  the show. And if you have not seen it yet,
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  there is just so much work involved, physical work, that I
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  can't even imagine doing it. First of all, I can't imagine
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  doing it all. And then you add pregnancy on
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  top. Of well, you would like this
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  joke. One of our favorite jokes we
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  would say is when I would get her out as a doll at the end
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  when she was pregnant, obviously pregnant, we had to pull her out
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  in a Dolly because she couldn't go on the box anymore.
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  And I would look at the audience and I'll just yell, this one's
• 17:41
  used. Oh my God, that is actually
• 17:45
  brilliant. I want to see it again.
• 17:48
  Like pregnancy? Yeah, pregnancy.
• 17:50
  Well, October, it's popping out so.
• 17:53
  What's the due date? 14th.
• 17:55
  OK, I'm October 9th. So oh wow, you're going.
• 17:58
  To have a Libra, I don't believe it or not, I'm going to tell you
• 18:00
  Libras are great. Oh, great.
• 18:01
  October babies are wonderful. Wonderful.
• 18:03
  I've got lots of Libra friends so I believe it.
• 18:05
  You'll find this 3rd of June, 5th of June.
• 18:08
  No way. Yeah, we're both Geminis, which
• 18:10
  hence the clingy. But also, wait, whether or not
• 18:13
  you believe it or not, I will say Gemini's move really
• 18:15
  quickly. If I have a friend who goes to
• 18:17
  the bathroom and comes back really quick, I'll be like, are
• 18:18
  you a Gemini? And nine times out of 10, the
• 18:20
  answer is yes. But also, you have to go through
• 18:23
  such quick costume changes. I could not believe some of the
• 18:26
  physical stuff you do. And I'd be like, oh, they're
• 18:28
  going to need to sit down. But 30 seconds later, you were
• 18:30
  walking back on stage in a new outfit.
• 18:32
  It's pretty constant and we've done shows in the past that have
• 18:35
  been like 4 hour shows and you like sit around a lot and stuff.
• 18:39
  And actually, to be honest, we prefer it a little more
• 18:41
  fast-paced because you don't cool down, especially with the
• 18:44
  acrobatics. We kind of like to stay warm,
• 18:47
  you know, for the whole show, stay energetic because sometimes
• 18:50
  you cool down, you get tired. It's harder to make jokes, you
• 18:54
  know, It's a bit more like. It was a four hour dinner show.
• 18:57
  That's why it's 4 hours. It wasn't 4 hours of shows
• 18:59
  straight. Oh that makes sense.
• 19:01
  Dinner show, Dinner show, dinner show.
• 19:03
  Yeah, the experience was 4 hours.
• 19:05
  But that means that you weren't literally waiting backstage for
• 19:07
  like, the beginning, the middle of the end.
• 19:09
  Well, we sat in the audience for the beginning, so 45 minutes we
• 19:12
  were pretending to be audience members.
• 19:15
  Like Rowdy? Obnoxious tourists.
• 19:17
  Everyone has a part of their job that they dislike.
• 19:20
  Even I have the greatest job in the world and have moments where
• 19:23
  I'm like, oh, I'm fucking editing.
• 19:25
  Is that not the most boring thing in the world?
• 19:26
  To have to sit there and just watch the show, the same show
• 19:29
  over and over? We weren't just sitting there,
• 19:32
  we were being really obnoxious. Oh.
• 19:34
  Wonderful. For that one, we were kind of
• 19:36
  like obnoxious tourists. And then we got up on the stage,
• 19:39
  stage stripped off and did acrobatics.
• 19:41
  So we were trying to convince the audience to like, hate us.
• 19:46
  And then we go on stage and they're like, oh.
• 19:49
  Funny, it's part. Of it would have been easier if
• 19:52
  they didn't put a massive picture of us right at the
• 19:54
  entrance. Oh for crying.
• 19:57
  OK. I would love to see a show like
• 19:59
  that with you. 2IN it of just it was file people up.
• 20:03
  That was fun. What's your favorite act?
• 20:07
  It's hard to answer because we don't see the show very often
• 20:11
  and it changes a lot because we're in the show so much.
• 20:14
  So when we had asked this, we always try not to say one of our
• 20:18
  acts, OK, So we won't say one of our acts or one of our comedy
• 20:21
  pieces. OK, I'll be because that sounds
• 20:24
  so that feels conceited to say that for me.
• 20:26
  I would say taking all our stuff out, probably Yulia's water
• 20:30
  bottle act, the handstand act. It's like a big martini glass.
• 20:34
  And she does. Oh yeah, handstands.
• 20:36
  OK, yes, I have to tell you, the fact that you went with that,
• 20:40
  did you call it the handstand act?
• 20:41
  Yeah, OK. That is the least obvious part
• 20:44
  about that whole show. A woman is in a martini glass
• 20:48
  being sexy as fuck and you're like, she does handstand.
• 20:51
  She's she's one of her and her husband are some of the best
• 20:54
  hand balancers in the world. So we've known of them from
• 20:57
  Instagram long time before we came here.
• 20:59
  Got it. So OK, that's totally fair.
• 21:01
  That is a really cool act. Though, and another great act in
• 21:04
  the show. I mean, they're all great,
• 21:06
  really. All of the artists are
• 21:08
  phenomenal, but I really like the Rome act as well.
• 21:11
  It was three guys doing acrobatics together and then
• 21:16
  there's two guys doing acrobatics together.
• 21:17
  Now we have a hand balancer who does really long canes, but that
• 21:23
  act is always a highlight of the show.
• 21:25
  Yeah, definitely. I haven't actually seen the new
• 21:28
  guy who doesn't solo, so I didn't think of that one because
• 21:31
  he's really new and we've been in the show the whole time.
• 21:34
  But he seems amazing. When I saw were there two people
• 21:36
  doing that? There would have been, yeah.
• 21:38
  The bald guys, Yeah, yeah. Those guys are amazing.
• 21:42
  They're Ukrainian brothers. All of that makes sense, right?
• 21:45
  I made this joke in the Instagram video I did about it.
• 21:47
  I was like, if you don't have fantasies, you will have a
• 21:50
  fantasy leafing this show. And those brothers were.
• 21:54
  Yeah, they're awesome. They're great guys.
• 21:55
  So good. I want to shout out two things.
• 21:58
  My boyfriend really liked this one as well.
• 22:00
  The horses. The way you transition from one
• 22:02
  thing into another is really beautiful.
• 22:05
  But that horse act, there's just something about it that is
• 22:08
  majestic. I don't.
• 22:09
  Know what? It's definitely the most unique
• 22:11
  of the dancers. Unique.
• 22:12
  So that's what we tell people when someone else what our
• 22:14
  favorite dance number is, we always say horses.
• 22:17
  Yeah, I mean. Because it stands out, it's so
• 22:20
  different to everything else. Yeah, and then I think one that
• 22:23
  played into my fantasy was the men in suits around the.
• 22:26
  Strip. Yep, City.
• 22:28
  Pole. Yes, I would say that in my
• 22:30
  opinion, the pole with the men in suits and the water bowl with
• 22:34
  the hat and the lighting are technically from like a lighting
• 22:39
  and design point of view. They're the best designed acts.
• 22:42
  It's beautiful. It's yeah, it's beautiful.
• 22:44
  Okay, but then there is an act that I am still amazed at.
• 22:49
  We talked about a little bit beforehand.
• 22:50
  You in a balloon. Yeah, so I've done the balloon
• 22:55
  act for quite a long time pre this show, and we always wanted
• 22:58
  to do it as like a condom gag. So this was just the perfect
• 23:02
  time to do it. Originally, I wanted to be
• 23:04
  stuffed in the locker like a nerd.
• 23:06
  Yes, yeah, but you didn't fit I, I.
• 23:09
  I could get it, but they were like, it doesn't read because
• 23:12
  you don't look like a nerd when you come out.
• 23:16
  Or I said I could have been the like, gym teacher with a
• 23:18
  whistle. Oh yeah.
• 23:20
  Because she was originally the ballet teacher later in the
• 23:22
  show, but she stopped doing it because we didn't have time for
• 23:24
  the changes. Yeah, yeah, it was too much.
• 23:26
  Quit changing. Yeah.
• 23:28
  Also people would laugh the second they saw her and it's not
• 23:31
  supposed to be a comedy role. It would sort of take away from
• 23:34
  the ballerina because people would be like, oh, what's this
• 23:36
  comedy act, you know? What's she gonna do?
• 23:39
  What's she gonna do? Yeah, and then it was a serious
• 23:41
  act, so it just didn't. We weren't ready for you to be
• 23:43
  serious. No.
• 23:44
  No, no. OK, and I have to say, the
• 23:47
  condom thing in general is overdone.
• 23:50
  So when you started doing the condom thing, I was like, come
• 23:53
  on, Rouge. Yeah.
• 23:53
  But then you delivered. You landed it.
• 23:55
  You were like, I could not believe what you did.
• 23:58
  So I just want to explain. I don't want to ruin it, but I
• 24:00
  have to. Like you literally get in a
• 24:02
  balloon. Get in a giant balloon and jump
• 24:04
  around and then get. Yeah.
• 24:07
  Naked, naked. Well, it's naked is you're
• 24:09
  legally allowed. It's as we had to get a lawyer
• 24:11
  come and watch the show when we opened it and they added an
• 24:14
  extra strap on that. Are you not allowed be naked in
• 24:16
  Vegas? Not allowed to be pantless, so
• 24:19
  you're allowed to be topless. You're not allowed to show
• 24:22
  genitals. You need a special license for
• 24:24
  topless and you need another special license for actual fully
• 24:27
  nude. I have the one for the topless
• 24:29
  but they don't. It's a whole thing.
• 24:30
  Even a lot of strip shows like strip.
• 24:32
  Clubs they don't don't. Go bottomless.
• 24:34
  Yeah, it's a legal thing. Technically what I end the
• 24:38
  Icarian acting at the end of the show is illegal.
• 24:41
  But I made sure the lawyer was sitting on the other side and I
• 24:44
  faced that way because I'm only in a dance, support say.
• 24:48
  That on here. You probably shouldn't say it on
• 24:53
  here. No no I know it's only it's from
• 24:55
  1 angle like. Yeah, Yeah, that, well, that's
• 24:57
  it. I made sure it was angled so
• 24:59
  it's. Yeah, you don't put anyone in
• 25:00
  the seat that where would. Ass seat, yeah.
• 25:02
  The ass seat, if they go into the ass seat, you know, sit more
• 25:06
  towards the left. Remember, that's an angle.
• 25:09
  I'll call them up and be like, I would like to be in this
• 25:11
  specific seat. Oh, my boyfriend's gonna kill
• 25:13
  it. You're saying that.
• 25:14
  OK, so that's the act that sticks with me.
• 25:16
  And I'm sure it sticks with a lot of people because the energy
• 25:19
  that goes into it, it is the most shocking thing.
• 25:21
  You come out, you go and close and you come out of this balloon
• 25:23
  naked and it's almost like a magic act.
• 25:25
  It really is because I'm like, how the fuck did he get?
• 25:27
  Well, we do the magic trick at the end of the show as well,
• 25:31
  which is just one, but I actually tell all my friends
• 25:34
  that we're the headlining magicians of the Strat.
• 25:36
  As for the only ones there, and we're friends like Shin Lim and
• 25:39
  all this. So whenever I'm around them, I
• 25:41
  always get. I say, hey, I'm the headlining
• 25:42
  magician of the Strat. Shinlam is a really famous Vegas
• 25:46
  like. Yeah.
• 25:48
  It's like a really good dig, actually.
• 25:50
  Like, well, wait, where is Shinland?
• 25:52
  Venetian. Venetian now, yeah.
• 25:55
  Amazing show, he's a good friends with us.
• 25:57
  I mean, it's wife. You are friends with a lot of
• 25:59
  different performers. I've reeled all of this from
• 26:02
  your Instagram. How do you all?
• 26:03
  Know it's a small community, really, like there's a lot of
• 26:07
  artists here and what we do, we're as close to headlining as
• 26:11
  you can be without being a headliner because we host a show
• 26:15
  and we do all this, but our name, it's not Zion and Poppy.
• 26:17
  Rouge, OK. So we end up in those circles as
• 26:21
  well. Yeah, that makes.
• 26:23
  A ton of sense because most of them know each other and you
• 26:25
  know, you want to talk about your experience performing on a
• 26:28
  Vegas show all the time. You hang out with people who
• 26:31
  also do that. Yeah.
• 26:32
  You go to a party and so many performers here, you know, it's
• 26:35
  a great community of people, so it's just inevitable you're
• 26:38
  going to meet. We've been here four years now,
• 26:41
  yeah. And actually we meet quite a few
• 26:43
  through kids. You're like, hey, this person
• 26:45
  has a kid about the same age as your kids.
• 26:47
  So you end up. I mean a.
• 26:48
  Playdate together, you know. It makes sense.
• 26:50
  What's hard to believe believe about it is that your job is so
• 26:53
  physical. I'm like, there's many people
• 26:54
  doing this because when you told me that you had a toddler at
• 26:57
  home, I was like, how did you like keep doing this show?
• 26:59
  For the first year, he was in our dressing room with the
• 27:02
  babysitter backstage. We're the only people in Vegas
• 27:05
  that we know of that got permission to have our kid
• 27:07
  backstage in the theater. Because I was still
• 27:09
  breastfeeding and he was feeding every two hours, I would have to
• 27:12
  feed him through the show, which was quite cool.
• 27:15
  I've got some great pictures of me and my full costume like
• 27:18
  breastfeeding backstage. Great memories.
• 27:21
  We called a nursing naughty Well.
• 27:24
  You need to see the show to fully understand the entire get
• 27:27
  up of it. Is it easy to work together?
• 27:29
  Yes. I mean, well, you're tied at the
• 27:32
  hip and have been for 11 years, but no arguments or anything
• 27:35
  about the show. Definitely.
• 27:36
  I think we've quite good at communicating with each other.
• 27:39
  Most of our arguments that we have are usually acrobatic
• 27:42
  related and it's usually for like safety or if a trick goes
• 27:46
  wrong we'll have a little fight about.
• 27:49
  It the good thing is we don't swear at each other.
• 27:52
  I want to clarify, we swear a lot as people, but we just have
• 27:55
  a no swearing at the other person rule.
• 27:58
  And if you do, you have to apologize straight away.
• 28:00
  That helps so much. It's very hard to keep being
• 28:03
  angry when you have to stop and be like, sorry for swearing, but
• 28:07
  it really kills the momentum of your argument.
• 28:10
  Oh I just get spanked if I swear the person had my partner.
• 28:15
  But yeah, just. Got a win win but.
• 28:16
  Yeah, yeah. That's a reward though.
• 28:18
  That's the problem. I still feel bad.
• 28:20
  Yeah, there's like guilt. No, that's something to break
• 28:22
  the tension though. Yeah, but with us, most of the
• 28:25
  time when we fight, as she said, it's going to be like, you are
• 28:28
  holding my foot at the slightly wrong angle and your elbow was
• 28:31
  unlocked, which at the time feels really serious.
• 28:35
  But 5 minutes later when you say it out loud, you're like, wow,
• 28:38
  that's a ridiculous thing to be this angry about.
• 28:40
  It's fun. But I also get it, it's probably
• 28:43
  also if you 2 weren't so close, would you still argue about?
• 28:46
  As in, do other performers argue like this?
• 28:49
  I think it's quite common for like couples and acrobatic duos
• 28:53
  because it's quite important as well.
• 28:55
  If something's going wrong, you need to talk about it with each
• 28:58
  other. And when adrenaline's high,
• 29:01
  stress is high, it's going to come out as a fight.
• 29:03
  It's just inevitable. I think though, that the big
• 29:07
  problem is when people don't talk about it, because if you
• 29:10
  address it straight away, it might be like, oh, you slightly
• 29:13
  raised your voice when you said that.
• 29:15
  And it's like, we count that as a fight.
• 29:17
  But most people are like, what? That's not.
• 29:19
  But if you don't talk about it, I know some people will just
• 29:21
  say, no, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
• 29:23
  And then they're complaining about their partner to everyone
• 29:25
  else. Worst possible situation.
• 29:27
  We don't complain about each other when we're not there.
• 29:31
  Yeah, if. We're here and she says
• 29:33
  something at my expense as a joke.
• 29:35
  Now great, that's funny. But if I'm not here and we're
• 29:38
  around it, we don't really do that.
• 29:39
  You're. Not the butt of each other's
• 29:41
  jokes. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
• 29:42
  That's a healthy relationship. We try to keep it like that and
• 29:45
  we actually teach a lot of acrobatics to couples and a lot
• 29:48
  of the time it becomes a little bit like relationship
• 29:51
  counselling because it's so important, the communication,
• 29:54
  not just physical but verbal as well when you're working that
• 29:58
  closely. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
• 30:00
  I think that might be part of why we do fit into like kink
• 30:03
  communities and stuff so well without actually doing it.
• 30:06
  Because when you do partner acrobatics, all those things
• 30:10
  about like consent, good communication, relationship, all
• 30:14
  that is the same. Yeah, I can't deny it.
• 30:17
  I try and stop kingsters from being like we're just better
• 30:20
  communicators. But the truth is 2 acrobats I
• 30:22
  think are also going to be better communicators.
• 30:25
  There are certain things you do that mean you have to
• 30:27
  communicate. But it's that you're better at
• 30:29
  communicating for the specific things you've practiced with,
• 30:32
  yes. It doesn't mean that we're
• 30:33
  better. I mean, we play a lot of board
• 30:35
  games together. We're really big board game
• 30:37
  nuts, OK, huge board game. Nuts.
• 30:39
  I feel like just circle back to the fact that you are monogamous
• 30:43
  because little things. You're saying these are tropes
• 30:45
  for different types of lifestyle communities?
• 30:48
  Really. Yeah, polyamorous people, all
• 30:49
  they do is sit around and play board games.
• 30:51
  So we're like, we love board games.
• 30:53
  So like. Yeah, it gets us into trouble
• 30:55
  because we invite and most of our friends are like super
• 30:58
  attractive acrobats from all the different shows and we're like
• 31:00
  come on over for board games. And then sometimes they think
• 31:04
  we're swingers and think it's not that.
• 31:06
  And we're like so often they'll arrive and we'll have the seven
• 31:09
  hour Talisman set up and they'll look, so look at them and
• 31:12
  they're not here for the broadcast.
• 31:13
  I literally love that because I also know it's true.
• 31:17
  Literally I felt so compelled during the podcast to be like
• 31:20
  relax everyone, they're not. Actually.
• 31:22
  You need on the invite to put in parentheses like.
• 31:25
  This is really just board game. Actually.
• 31:26
  Yeah, yes. Helped a lot having kids.
• 31:29
  OK, Yeah. Yeah, people don't assume that
• 31:31
  when you invite them over for a play date, which is good.
• 31:33
  Well, yeah. Well, if you were at it like
• 31:35
  that, they would. How many nights?
• 31:37
  The shows? Five nights a week. 66 You were
• 31:40
  working six nights a week with a child.
• 31:42
  We did before we had our child, couldn't do it now.
• 31:45
  We did four months, no day off. Whoa, how many was it?
• 31:50
  192 shows and four months with no day off.
• 31:53
  What necessitated that amount of shows?
• 31:56
  Gosh. OK, no.
• 31:58
  They offered us like a bonus for doing it more because the rest
• 32:01
  of the cast rotated days off. Yeah, but they have no backup
• 32:04
  for us and they were going to do it every summer.
• 32:06
  But we're kind of happy that that didn't happen.
• 32:08
  Oh, because there's been a decline in tourism, like at the
• 32:12
  moment, yes. I mean, it's international news
• 32:15
  what Vegas is going through. Yeah, and we feel very lucky
• 32:19
  with Rouge because actually including Rouge 6 shows at the
• 32:22
  Strat Theatre in the last four years, we're the only one that
• 32:25
  lasted. Honestly Rouge is the only
• 32:28
  reason I've been to the Strat twice in the three years of
• 32:30
  living here. Yeah, it goes well.
• 32:32
  Like even when we're like, oh, it's a decline in tourism, it's
• 32:35
  good. We got a lot of people and a lot
• 32:37
  of enthusiastic, fun audiences. The energy is usually really
• 32:40
  good. I mean, A1 show night is always
• 32:43
  an awesome, great time. 2 show nights, first one's always
• 32:46
  really full and good, second one is usually good.
• 32:49
  But I feel like Vegas isn't a late night city anymore, and if
• 32:53
  it is, it's because people are going to specific clubs or
• 32:56
  parties. They're not.
• 32:59
  All of our friends are saying this, even Cirque du Soleil.
• 33:01
  A lot of them are moving the shows earlier and we're finding
• 33:04
  the same thing. Even even at Rouge, because we
• 33:06
  used to be 8301030 and now they've moved them to 8 to 10
• 33:10
  and we even used to do 9 and 11 and the 11:00 PM shows were
• 33:15
  like, they still sold. Like we still had enough people
• 33:19
  to do a show, but people just don't want to go out that late.
• 33:23
  I think that's a post COVID thing.
• 33:25
  Dinner reservations now 5:00 and 5:30 is like the hot dinner
• 33:29
  reservation and that lines up for your show.
• 33:31
  It was like 530. Dinner, 8:00 PM.
• 33:33
  Yes, and we find and, and also I felt like it was a bit of a
• 33:37
  thing of when people come to Vegas, they're like, I want to
• 33:39
  make the most of my trip. I'm here for three days.
• 33:41
  I get up at six. AMI walked the strip.
• 33:43
  I did this. And then it gets to 10:30 when
• 33:46
  they get to see our show and I've come out and there's been
• 33:49
  people asleep before we started and I wake him up.
• 33:54
  I had a guy in the head with the balloon who was asleep once.
• 33:57
  All people are passed out as well.
• 33:58
  They'll be so drunk. We've had people that are passed
• 34:02
  out before the show's even started.
• 34:04
  I can't get over this because if you haven't seen the show yet,
• 34:07
  you do not understand how from the moment you walk in and sit
• 34:09
  down it's a highly eroticized, like erotically charged venue.
• 34:15
  There are beautiful people walking around.
• 34:17
  There are little vignette scenes type of things happening and
• 34:20
  they are sexy. They are already kinky.
• 34:23
  I'm like how is someone showing up in this environment and even
• 34:26
  falling asleep? I think it's just the city that
• 34:29
  it is, to be honest. People are.
• 34:30
  Just. Doing so much they they're.
• 34:32
  Out and who know maybe jet lagged as well.
• 34:35
  That happened to us actually I hate to admit it.
• 34:37
  When we moved to Germany we arrived, got off the plane and
• 34:41
  they were like are you going to go watch this 4 hour in a show
• 34:44
  straight away. Amazing show, one of the best
• 34:46
  shows I've ever seen. We fell asleep for about 20
• 34:49
  minutes at the end. Oh no, I mean.
• 34:51
  So we we had, we came back and we saw the show again because we
• 34:55
  wanted to see the last act, but. But in our defense, that was a
• 34:58
  four hour dinner show. So it was after we had had the
• 35:02
  like dessert and we were like Oh my God.
• 35:05
  OK, that's fair, but that's what espresso martinis are for.
• 35:07
  Maybe you don't drink. We actually don't drink.
• 35:11
  Well then you don't know this, but also outside of the show
• 35:13
  where the bar is, they have this very good Grey Goose espresso
• 35:16
  Martini like on tap, so. Yeah, sure.
• 35:19
  The bar stuff are awesome. Yeah, they're really great guys.
• 35:22
  They. Are really awesome.
• 35:23
  Yeah, that is not the reason I enjoyed the show so much.
• 35:26
  Like I had a really good drink before walking in.
• 35:28
  Good. Yeah.
• 35:29
  OK. Do you have any memorable shows
• 35:31
  that you guys have done with Rouge that stand out for either
• 35:34
  good or bad reasons? The goat.
• 35:36
  What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, there's a lot.
• 35:39
  Some of them, I wouldn't say. Some of the things people said
• 35:42
  are borderline illegal and that's very memorable, but.
• 35:45
  Straight up illegal. Yeah, straight up illegal.
• 35:46
  But also for us, there was one day I went down there and I
• 35:51
  said, so what's your fantasy? And he said goat.
• 35:55
  And I said, do you mean like the like the animal or greatest of
• 35:59
  all time would not say another word.
• 36:01
  He just stared at me. And someone else in the audience
• 36:04
  started making a goat noise. I saw me.
• 36:07
  And then I pointed at the guy next to him who had a goatee.
• 36:09
  And I said, oh, he's got a goatee, maybe you can just fuck
• 36:11
  him. I said maybe.
• 36:13
  And they laughed and it was good.
• 36:15
  Like I was like, maybe maybe this will suffice because I'm
• 36:18
  not getting you a real goat. Like what are you talking about?
• 36:21
  That's bestiality. Obviously I was more like funny
• 36:24
  with it than that I was and so direct.
• 36:26
  But it was, I was like, what's going on anyway?
• 36:28
  People making goat noises. And I moved on, didn't think
• 36:31
  about it again. End of the show, Poppy bends me
• 36:35
  over, I turn and I'm silent. I do a slow microphone in.
• 36:41
  I'm looking around at the audience and someone in the
• 36:44
  audience yells fuck him like a goat and the whole audience, no
• 36:50
  no, no one laughed. How?
• 36:52
  And then the whole audience started making loud goat noises
• 36:57
  and it's like 500 people. It was awesome.
• 37:00
  I was like, did you guys plan this while I was backstage or
• 37:03
  something? I was like just looking around
• 37:05
  like what is happening right now?
• 37:07
  I love. This I love when a group of
• 37:09
  people come together for a greater good.
• 37:13
  That was, that was pretty amazing.
• 37:14
  I think there's a lot of callbacks to the show, so it's
• 37:17
  cool when like stuff like that happens and the audience is just
• 37:20
  on board, you know, with the joke.
• 37:22
  A lot of the time if someone something funny, I'll do a
• 37:24
  callback. I'm bent over and I'll be like,
• 37:26
  I'll make a great noise or I'll do whatever.
• 37:28
  But for them to do it, I was like, whoa, that was cool.
• 37:31
  That is really, I mean, because then, you know, you're doing
• 37:33
  something, you know, like as a show, you're bringing people
• 37:35
  together to like, enjoy this fun moment.
• 37:38
  I did this is probably less crazy, but I always like to
• 37:41
  bring out and do like an improv joke that I put quite a lot more
• 37:44
  effort into just before the red bed.
• 37:48
  And I always go a little overboard and I've done a bunch
• 37:50
  of things, but the most overboard I did is someone said
• 37:53
  they had a refrigerator fantasy. I was didn't really understand.
• 37:57
  I was like, wouldn't I don't understand, Are you frigid?
• 38:00
  Like what's going on? One is called shrinkage.
• 38:02
  It's a, you know, I don't know about that, but so I went
• 38:04
  backstage and Poppy said, what do you do with that?
• 38:06
  And I said, well, we've got a fridge.
• 38:08
  I said we got it's a mini fridge.
• 38:10
  It's just be it's a freezer technically.
• 38:12
  And Poppy's like you don't have time.
• 38:13
  It's a quick change. We need to ask.
• 38:14
  So I unplug the fridge, emptied it out of it, was full of
• 38:17
  breast, emptied it out of breast milk and I got it and I strapped
• 38:21
  it to myself and I was carrying it and I was like, oh, this is
• 38:24
  kind of funny, but I need something else.
• 38:26
  So I got a dildo and I stuck it inside the fridge.
• 38:29
  So then I came back out on stage and when the light came on me,
• 38:32
  I'm holding the fridge and everyone's looking at me and I
• 38:34
  was like, I got to be honest, I don't recommend the fridge thing
• 38:39
  and I've swung the door open and the dildo was in there.
• 38:43
  So it looks like. He did.
• 38:44
  They go nuts. They did.
• 38:47
  You got to commit to the bit. And that that part of the show,
• 38:49
  Zion will be running around trying to find props backstage.
• 38:52
  Like whatever the audience says. He's like, all right, I'm going
• 38:55
  to make like a visual joke out of it.
• 38:57
  So he has a great time finding different props and things to
• 39:01
  do. I quite liked it when there was
• 39:03
  a couple on their honeymoon and they said they wanted to do
• 39:05
  something and they never did before and they couldn't think
• 39:07
  of what that was. They like would suggest
• 39:09
  something and they said we got 12 kids, we done everything.
• 39:12
  So then when I came back out later, I said, well, clearly the
• 39:15
  one thing you've never done is worn a condom.
• 39:17
  So condom. But there's a lot of jokes like
• 39:21
  that that have been really fun and the Chinese audience that
• 39:24
  time. Yeah, so cowboy Christmas is a
• 39:27
  thing that happens before Christmas time where the rodeo
• 39:31
  finals are in town. So we have just like a sea of
• 39:34
  cowboy hats. They're really rowdy, great
• 39:36
  audience because they give us a lot to work with.
• 39:38
  When Christmas is over, we have Chinese tourists.
• 39:42
  It's a complete change. They're quite quiet.
• 39:45
  The comedy's a bit harder because they're not
• 39:47
  understanding so much. We have a friend who's Chinese,
• 39:50
  and Zion got him to tell us how to write in Chinese.
• 39:56
  What is your fantasy? So Zion will go down and ask
• 39:59
  them what their fantasy is, and if they say no English, he'll
• 40:03
  pull out the Chinese. And it works so well because
• 40:07
  then they can just say it in Chinese and the whole audience
• 40:10
  knows what they're saying. God.
• 40:12
  I keep it in the pants ready to go, but that.
• 40:15
  Is actually genius though. I got that idea because one time
• 40:19
  there was some people right here and I'm doing the French bit and
• 40:22
  I'm saying that there's a lions tap that ass.
• 40:24
  They were just looking at me blankly.
• 40:25
  They're laughing at the movement.
• 40:27
  And this one woman here just starts yelling.
• 40:28
  You have to say it in Mandarin. You have to say it in Mandarin.
• 40:32
  So I went backstage and I googled, translated it and
• 40:34
  Mandarin and I spent the whole show saying it over and over and
• 40:38
  over again to try and get the tone right.
• 40:40
  So then later on I came out and when the light came on me, I
• 40:43
  just went and said it. Mandarin, they were screaming.
• 40:47
  They were throwing money at me, I said.
• 40:52
  For learning Mandarin, for learning.
• 40:53
  I was like this. Whoa.
• 40:55
  It's a powerful move, yeah. I don't think I could put into
• 40:58
  words what I enjoyed about the show so much.
• 41:00
  But like your description of how you literally put yourself into
• 41:03
  it, It's not just scripted and you feel it's not scripted.
• 41:05
  To this day I do not understand how you made such a kinky show
• 41:08
  while being so vanilla. Well, I think it's just that we
• 41:12
  like to listen to people. We really like to meet new
• 41:14
  people and hear what they're into.
• 41:16
  So we have like a lot of random knowledge about these things and
• 41:21
  I think it helps. OK, this, I want to add this
• 41:24
  right? Because we aren't trying to
• 41:26
  sleep with anyone in the audience, and we aren't trying
• 41:30
  to do anything without any of that, which means that we don't
• 41:34
  come across as creepy. Yeah, that's true.
• 41:36
  Which is a big thing that I've seen with other hosts.
• 41:39
  So amazing hosts, much better than me.
• 41:41
  But I've seen some hosts and you can tell that they're getting a
• 41:44
  little too excited about being in a sexy show surrounded by
• 41:48
  sexy people. A lot of the time the hosts are
• 41:50
  much older and you know what I mean?
• 41:52
  And it's fine, but I'm going to word it right.
• 41:54
  I just feel like it helps that we're a happily married couple
• 41:57
  and we're not trying to. I'm not trying to use it to get
• 42:00
  anything. No.
• 42:01
  Our main objective is to make a joke is to make people laugh,
• 42:05
  you know, so you can tell us the craziest thing ever.
• 42:08
  And instantly we're like, how can we make you laugh?
• 42:11
  How can we like, make this funny, you know?
• 42:14
  And I'm hearing it and I'm not thinking, Oh, well, I don't want
• 42:17
  anyone to think that about me because I, I mean, I'm married
• 42:20
  with kids. I'm, I don't, they can think
• 42:23
  whatever they want about me. I don't mind if they think that
• 42:25
  I'm a crazy partying swinger. Cool, that's fine.
• 42:31
  That we do leave thinking. A lot of people do.
• 42:35
  Because you're so comfortable at just making the jokes and
• 42:39
  weaving in and out of it. And I think that that's an
• 42:41
  impressive skill of just being. I mean, I guess did you guys
• 42:44
  take improv? We both did acting and drama and
• 42:47
  stuff at like school and everything, but I think when we
• 42:50
  first started working together we really wanted to be like
• 42:53
  serious acrobats, romantic, serious.
• 42:56
  That's what we wanted to do. People kept hiring us for comedy
• 43:00
  because I feel like we're both naturally enjoy comedy and enjoy
• 43:04
  that, and we stopped fighting it after a while and we're like,
• 43:07
  OK, we need to lean into the comedy a bit more because that's
• 43:10
  what people love from us and we love it as well.
• 43:14
  When you say romantic Acrobat, what does that even mean?
• 43:17
  It means like the classic, two people doing acrobatics together
• 43:21
  and it's a lovely song and it's very.
• 43:24
  Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
• 43:26
  There's a lot of them out there. That's that's kind of what we
• 43:29
  were, you know, aiming for. And I think that we've put more
• 43:32
  of our personality into our performance.
• 43:34
  I think that is also another shocking part of it is like you
• 43:37
  were not just hosting it, you were doing all of the acrobatics
• 43:41
  and that sets the show apart. Because we went to circus school
• 43:44
  together for five years or four years, four years.
• 43:46
  I went five years. She was there four years.
• 43:49
  Is it like university? Yeah, we have bachelor degrees.
• 43:52
  In. Circumstance.
• 43:53
  Okay, is that an Australian thing or does America offer that
• 43:56
  too? Ah, Canada does.
• 43:58
  I don't think there's a like certified course in America, but
• 44:01
  there's I think there's two places in Canada that do that do
• 44:05
  the certified. Yeah, I'm not sure about here
• 44:07
  with the own. The one in Melbourne we went to
• 44:10
  is the only one in the Southern hemisphere.
• 44:12
  I know that. I used to be single in Vegas on
• 44:14
  the app swiping. There are a ton of acrobats in
• 44:18
  Vegas and they are mostly kinky, right?
• 44:20
  So like, do you have a ton of Acrobat friends who are like,
• 44:22
  oh, you should put this in the show.
• 44:23
  You should put that in the show. Absolutely.
• 44:25
  And they come to the show and they'll yell things out as well.
• 44:28
  Yeah, absolutely. We're friends with a lot of
• 44:30
  acrobats and a lot of some of our best friends that do flank
• 44:33
  trapeze and Mistaire. So we go, they have flank
• 44:35
  trapeze in their house and everything.
• 44:38
  A lot of them come to our show and they just love that.
• 44:40
  With our show, it's so open and solo.
• 44:44
  They'll come and that yell crazy stuff out just to see what I'm
• 44:48
  going to do with it. I love that I would want to go
• 44:50
  see a show that all of your friends were showing up too for
• 44:52
  that specific reason too. It's fun.
• 44:54
  It's fun. OK, you guys do a really good
• 44:57
  job of managing a pretty clean show.
• 45:00
  You said some people say illegal things in your improv sections,
• 45:04
  which like I could see how that could happen as a disappointing
• 45:07
  as it is. Any other naughty secrets that
• 45:09
  happen? Well, it does happen more often
• 45:12
  than you would think. Some people get a little too
• 45:15
  excited and they start doing things with each other and we do
• 45:20
  have to get security to kick them out.
• 45:23
  We have people like fingering each other, taking their tops
• 45:26
  off, bouncing around like. I have questions that I deliver
• 45:30
  if I want to have okay. I I don't understand in what
• 45:34
  world women taking their tops off.
• 45:35
  Yes. So there was a woman in the
• 45:37
  front row, fully tits out, legs spread, sitting on the guy's lap
• 45:43
  while he was going to town on her front row in the spotlight.
• 45:46
  In the spotlight so everyone could see her in the entire SO.
• 45:49
  Do you handle that or does? Someone No, no, no, no, no.
• 45:52
  Usher's in security. And with that, they get the
• 45:54
  security guys. I meant like, do you interact
• 45:57
  with that at all or you just like, pretend this isn't
• 45:59
  happening? We were doing our hand to hand
• 46:01
  act at the time, so I was busy. Yeah, we were busy.
• 46:05
  We try not to like, put an emphasis on it, but like at the
• 46:08
  end of the show when Zion's thanking everyone, sometimes
• 46:11
  he'll be like, and thank you to this guy that got kicked out
• 46:14
  for, you know. Yeah, yeah, that happened.
• 46:17
  Someone got kicked out near the front a few weeks ago and they
• 46:20
  were like really going to town on themselves though.
• 46:23
  They were. They were getting off and they
• 46:25
  kicked them out. So at the end of the show I was
• 46:26
  like, thank you for doggy style. Thank you for this, and thank
• 46:30
  you to the guy we got kicked out for masturbating.
• 46:32
  Oh my. God, it's I I honestly don't
• 46:35
  understand what's wrong with people like consent, consent,
• 46:38
  consent. I I think that this one though,
• 46:41
  I think some of them, it's that they like the idea of us seeing
• 46:45
  them. Yeah.
• 46:47
  And then some of them, they're trying to do it sneakily up the
• 46:50
  back and they're trying to be like in public, sneaky.
• 46:55
  But we have. That one I understand.
• 46:56
  There's cameras in the theatre. Saying it's OK, I just.
• 46:59
  Mean, but also from the stage, yes, OK, you think people can't
• 47:04
  see under your tables, but from the stage perspective, we can
• 47:08
  see everything because we can see your legs.
• 47:11
  We could see everything that's going on to there.
• 47:13
  So it's quite shocking on stage. You'll be like wow.
• 47:16
  I am so consent forward though, that the idea that people would
• 47:20
  be doing this in public is. Yeah, but people have done
• 47:22
  worse. People do crazy stuff with shows
• 47:25
  here. There was someone took a shit in
• 47:28
  the side stage I. Forgot about that, Oh my God.
• 47:32
  You know I hate poop. The one day there was an awful,
• 47:34
  I think it was actually not from our shows, from the show before.
• 47:37
  OK, someone had just did. A kid friendly show, mind you.
• 47:41
  They, I think they were really drunk, really drunk.
• 47:45
  And they just, yeah, just side stage.
• 47:47
  Oh my God, that's absolutely. Disgusting.
• 47:49
  Insane. Yeah.
• 47:50
  Because you guys don't even have poop jokes.
• 47:52
  People do call out like Cleveland Steamer or like Rusty
• 47:57
  Trombone or and then we go there.
• 47:59
  If they're yelling it out then he'll make lots of poop jokes.
• 48:02
  Yeah, but they're more like, that's a shit answer or like,
• 48:05
  I'm glad you got that shit off your chest, you know what I
• 48:08
  mean? Like I'm not, I'm not.
• 48:10
  You don't go gross with it, Yeah.
• 48:12
  Yeah, OK, so people are getting kicked out for doing
• 48:15
  inappropriate things, like beyond inappropriate.
• 48:17
  Yeah, not all the time. It's not like all the time, but
• 48:20
  it's often enough that it's when they tell you someone got kicked
• 48:23
  out for it. You're like, oh.
• 48:24
  OK, Is it often enough? So like you tell people turn off
• 48:27
  your phones? Like I guess it would only
• 48:30
  probably encourage people more if you're like, don't fondle
• 48:32
  each other. It would be funny to add that
• 48:34
  in. Yeah, we had to add in a longer
• 48:37
  turn off your phones, but because people just the pre
• 48:39
  recorded voice at the start, no one listens to it.
• 48:41
  So we do a bit now in our very first monologue, we do a little
• 48:45
  bit of housekeeping. And then I also say it in
• 48:47
  Spanish as well with a little bit of jokes in there as well
• 48:51
  just to try and stop the photos. Because if you take photos
• 48:56
  during the show, you'll get your phone taken, pictures deleted,
• 49:00
  all of that. Yeah.
• 49:02
  OK, that was my favorite thing though.
• 49:04
  You're not allowed film. I wasn't allowed films.
• 49:06
  I got to just enjoy the show and I do not have to worry about
• 49:09
  getting any footage at all. I was like, oh, I'm just.
• 49:12
  That is another thing we struggle with is that a lot of
• 49:14
  people do still try and film and the ushers have to go and like
• 49:18
  delete the footage and whatever because the dancers are topless.
• 49:21
  Well, and a lot of the acts, oh, I didn't.
• 49:23
  And then some people get really defensive about it and we've had
• 49:27
  to kick them out and it's like, Oh yeah, it's like just delete
• 49:30
  it. That's the rule.
• 49:31
  Also new problem meta glasses or like any AI glasses?
• 49:37
  Oh my God, there's always a new problem.
• 49:39
  Yeah, so now they're really on to that, all the ushers and
• 49:42
  everything with the glasses as well.
• 49:44
  Because we've had a few people sitting there and they're just
• 49:46
  blatantly recording, yeah, front row.
• 49:49
  And it's like, how do you prove it?
• 49:52
  That is terrible though. I'm sorry you guys have to deal
• 49:54
  with that and especially the performers.
• 49:56
  They get really upset. We've had some performers
• 49:59
  before. The ushers are, I would say the
• 50:01
  ushers are quite on to it now. Before they were as on to it.
• 50:04
  Some performers would walk off stage which I think is fair
• 50:07
  enough. So they are quite on to it now,
• 50:09
  which is really good. But I wanted the tagline to be
• 50:11
  the breast show in Vegas. Why did they let you?
• 50:14
  Take they said it was too punny. I mean, it is so funny.
• 50:19
  I mean, we love our puns. We.
• 50:20
  I mean, it's really good, Yeah. I mean, the sexiest show in
• 50:23
  Vegas is just too on the nose. I say the breast show in Vegas,
• 50:27
  hosted by the biggest tit of them all.
• 50:29
  Oh. I like that.
• 50:30
  That's why I was saying. That's a solid one for me, yeah.
• 50:33
  Yeah, just deep inside, you know.
• 50:34
  Yeah, so I grew up in Ireland and like we do call people tits,
• 50:38
  but like, not. Here, not here, no, no.
• 50:40
  We both grew up on English comedy and and Australian comedy
• 50:45
  of course, but very much like. Same.
• 50:47
  Ireland was very much the same. So like the words are the same
• 50:50
  and things like that. When I go to these shows, one of
• 50:53
  the things I always wonder, where are these people who also
• 50:57
  used to be? Are our current dancers at some
• 50:59
  of maybe the famous strip clubs? Because they're good at poles,
• 51:01
  they're good at acrobatics. Is there an overlap?
• 51:04
  So. So I would have said I would
• 51:06
  have said no before usually. Definitely not really.
• 51:10
  But recently one of the dancers that is in our show and his
• 51:14
  husband, they opened up a show at the Hustler.
• 51:18
  Electric Fantasy Club What's? Called.
• 51:20
  Oh yeah, and a lot of our dancers dance there now and they
• 51:24
  do the like stripping and getting the tips and all of that
• 51:28
  as well. So before, no, but that's just
• 51:30
  like a recent thing that's just happened.
• 51:32
  And a lot of them are like, great, they can do our show and
• 51:34
  then after our show, go work at the strip club.
• 51:37
  But. It's also different because now
• 51:39
  we have a lot more Americans, whereas before everyone was on
• 51:42
  the O2 visa and couldn't do it. Other stuff visas get into that
• 51:46
  a lot. Have you guys experienced that
• 51:47
  like this shift in what's happening with visas is?
• 51:51
  That a delay with everyone's visa and 22 people in our
• 51:55
  company couldn't work for two weeks at the start of the year,
• 51:57
  including. US because we're on O2 visas.
• 52:01
  So what? And that's the one where it's
• 52:02
  like you have a special artistic talent.
• 52:04
  Yeah. So only work for someone who.
• 52:07
  Is that they have the. Only.
• 52:09
  Work. And then we have the O2 so we
• 52:11
  can only work for the. O1 is known as a celebrity visa.
• 52:15
  It's sad though, that you guys have to do that.
• 52:16
  So what happened with the show? You guys couldn't perform for
• 52:19
  two weeks. They just got other people and
• 52:22
  whoever they could find. Wait, they replaced you for two
• 52:25
  weeks? But they cut the shows down.
• 52:27
  It was only 13 shows. OK, that makes sense.
• 52:29
  I think so much of what you have put together, the energy you
• 52:32
  bring to it, and the fact that you are working with the
• 52:35
  audience and listening to them and you don't have a script for
• 52:37
  that part of the show makes it. I mean, that's what kink is all
• 52:41
  about. You're sort of feeding off the
• 52:42
  energy of each other and it's so much about the energy.
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  One of the through lines of the show is like, you pick one
• 52:47
  special audience member who gets your attention.
• 52:50
  Do you choose that person in advance or it's just whoever
• 52:52
  sitting like who looks interesting in the front row?
• 52:55
  Is a few factors. It's like if I can see some fun
• 52:58
  I I pick them at the time. Maybe I'll pick them on my
• 53:02
  walking around beforehand, but it's more based on like what
• 53:06
  they're wearing, where they're sitting, if they look fun.
• 53:08
  I don't want the funnest looking person because we need them for
• 53:11
  drugs later. I want the best is like a guy
• 53:14
  who's obviously there with his wife and she's more excited than
• 53:18
  he is. Oh my gosh.
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  All right. And then what do you do with
• 53:21
  this lucky audience member? We're.
• 53:23
  Just trying to get them laid. We're just trying to get him to
• 53:25
  have a successful night. That's what we're trying to do.
• 53:28
  Wait, you're trying to get him laid?
• 53:30
  I've been to the show to understand that is the through
• 53:32
  line but how is her being more excited than him?
• 53:36
  Like, what about that? It just makes it more fun as
• 53:39
  well because if if Zion keeps picking on him and she's finding
• 53:42
  it hilarious and is laughing, then he's having a good time
• 53:45
  because like she's having a good time as well.
• 53:47
  You. Know, and that often leads to
• 53:49
  him actually getting laid and I know that because they I've had
• 53:52
  at least 10 over the years messages on Instagram or
• 53:56
  whatever like hey, I was Jim from this show and it worked I
• 54:00
  got laid or a guy in a cafe came up to me last week and was like
• 54:04
  what was really funny was one guy messaged us and said he got
• 54:07
  on a plane to leave Las Vegas and he's sitting there and these
• 54:11
  other group of people see him and go it's Jim Jim.
• 54:16
  I don't think his name was Jim. I can't remember whatever.
• 54:18
  His name? Was so you're out here doing the
• 54:20
  Lord's work, getting people laid?
• 54:22
  Exactly right, exactly right. No, but it's, and the whole
• 54:25
  thing is what's really important is that the amount of women that
• 54:30
  are taking their husbands to these kind of shows and it's
• 54:35
  like they're the ones behind wanting to maybe the husband
• 54:37
  bought the tickets, but they're the one that wants to go.
• 54:39
  So I want to make sure they have a fun time, get their husband
• 54:42
  come out of his shell a little bit.
• 54:44
  And if the wife is wanting him to, he will, because I mean the
• 54:48
  most important thing, he wants to look good in front of her.
• 54:51
  That's such a cute thought though, too, that like he wants
• 54:53
  to look good in front of her, but it makes it, it does make it
• 54:56
  a fun show that lowers everyone's sort of wall.
• 54:59
  There's a bit at the beginning where you ask the fantasy, but
• 55:01
  then there's a bit where you ask people's favorite position and
• 55:03
  it takes a second or I don't know, is that normal?
• 55:05
  That takes a second. Sometimes it's really different
• 55:08
  what we get. Sometimes we have people coming
• 55:10
  straight in with like crazy answers.
• 55:13
  They're like, yes, now is my moment to yell it out.
• 55:16
  And then sometimes, you know, you kind of have to warm them
• 55:19
  up, like, no, it's OK. It's we're just having fun.
• 55:23
  You can yell out anything you. Know, I find there's often a
• 55:26
  shift when someone yells the first one and I say something
• 55:30
  funny or silly back and they're like, oh, we're just having fun
• 55:34
  here. Because occasionally you feel
• 55:36
  like it's like, it's not that serious guys.
• 55:38
  It's not like whatever you say you have to do later.
• 55:40
  It's just that we just say whatever you want.
• 55:42
  But also, I think it's a little bit like, am I going to be
• 55:45
  judged for not knowing enough sex positions?
• 55:47
  Do you know what I mean? Totally.
• 55:48
  We just went through the five that it it could be.
• 55:51
  Pretty much. But but also a really fun thing
• 55:53
  is when people just yell random stuff out that aren't actually
• 55:56
  sex positions. And then, you know, we got to
• 55:59
  come up with a way to turn it into a sex position, you know?
• 56:03
  Sometimes people say missionary though, just to be cheeky.
• 56:06
  That's what if that is their favorite, Well, no.
• 56:09
  Because we've just said we're worried you're going to do
• 56:12
  something, a missionary. We need something else.
• 56:14
  Oh, OK, yeah. Oh, that.
• 56:16
  OK, see, I don't know the show off, but yeah.
• 56:18
  Yeah, yeah. Because we've just said that and
• 56:20
  then they say it, it's and they always look, it's always some
• 56:23
  youngish guy who's looking at me like that's right.
• 56:27
  Occasionally. Recently I have started to just
• 56:30
  say shut the fuck up missionary. It does go well.
• 56:34
  Because it gets a big laugh. Like it just naturally got a big
• 56:37
  laugh. Well, one day I think I was in a
• 56:39
  bad mood and they said it shut the fuck up.
• 56:42
  Missionary so out of character. And that's why it's funny
• 56:45
  because I'm so excited about everyone's answers.
• 56:48
  I'm so into everyone's answers. And it was like doggies, Oh my
• 56:51
  God, what's going on? And he's missionary and shut the
• 56:54
  fuck up. Yeah, I love that you, at least
• 56:57
  your most authentic self, as much as you can be in the role
• 57:00
  is really helpful. But then, you know, you're also
• 57:03
  vanilla. Like, I'm sorry that I keep
• 57:05
  coming back to this. When I found this out, I was
• 57:07
  like, what? My hopes weren't dashed because
• 57:09
  I was like, I'm just more impressed that someone who's
• 57:11
  vanilla, like a couple can like, sell it so well.
• 57:15
  And the audience interaction. I can't, I can't get past this.
• 57:19
  I cannot explain this enough. It is a comedy show and a sexy
• 57:22
  show all in one, but it's authentic.
• 57:25
  Wonderful. Well, thank you guys so much for
• 57:28
  being here. I've had so much fun chatting
• 57:29
  with you and I can't wait to see what's next for Rouge for you
• 57:32
  guys. I will definitely be following
• 57:34
  along on Instagram, Zion and Poppy all one word and then
• 57:38
  Rouge dot Vegas. Amazing.
• 57:40
  Thanks so much for having us. Appreciate it.
• 57:42
  It's been so much fun. We've had a great time.
• 57:44
  Thank you. If you enjoyed this episode,
• 57:48
  don't forget to subscribe, leave a review and share it with
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  anyone who might find it interesting.
• 57:52
  And if you have any questions or topics you'd like me to cover in
• 57:55
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• 57:57
  info@thekingconsultant.com. Until next time, keep on kinking
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  on.