Latest / Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast / SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
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- 0:02Speaker 1: You are listening to Tom's Hirshbrung's Podcast, a space where
- 0:05Speaker 1: we talk openly about living with Hirshprung's disease. Whether you
- 0:09Speaker 1: live with it, care for someone who has it, or
- 0:12Speaker 1: just want to understand more, this podcast is for you.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Each episode, we will explore real stories and honest conversations
- 0:19Speaker 1: about a condition that often goes unheard. Thank you for
- 0:22Speaker 1: tuning in. Hello, and welcome to a special episode of
- 0:47Speaker 1: Tom's Hirshbruns Podcast where I am joined by two special guests.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I am joined by Ben and Georgina. Welcome both of
- 0:56Speaker 1: you to the podcast. We are here not through a
- 1:00Speaker 1: hirshbrog story this week or today, but we are here
- 1:04Speaker 1: with a special announcement and I will hand over to
- 1:09Speaker 1: you Ben for that special announcement. Okay, thanks Tom, thanks
- 1:15Speaker 1: for having me on.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I'd just like to start by saying that I think
- 1:17Speaker 2: this podcast is a fantastic resource for the hirshparng disease community,
- 1:21Speaker 2: so I feel very privileged to have been invited.
- 1:25Speaker 1: My name is Ben.
- 1:26Speaker 2: I'm a research scientist working at UCL Great Ormond Street
- 1:29Speaker 2: Institute of Childhealth. This is a fantastic research facility partner
- 1:35Speaker 2: with Great Ormond Street Hospital that sort of bolted onto
- 1:38Speaker 2: the side of Great Ormond Street Hospital, and that partnership
- 1:41Speaker 2: makes it Europe's largest center for children's health research. So
- 1:45Speaker 2: that's where I work. I'll tell you how this announcement
- 1:49Speaker 2: came about. We work on the development of stem cell
- 1:54Speaker 2: therapies for Hirshprong disease, and in twenty twenty four we
- 1:58Speaker 2: published a piece of work which we were really proud of.
- 2:02Speaker 2: You guys will know better than me that the majority
- 2:05Speaker 2: of children with Hershwung disease will need surgery in the
- 2:07Speaker 2: first year of their life. We approached the families of
- 2:12Speaker 2: the children their scheduled to have surgery and we ask
- 2:15Speaker 2: for permission to use a small amount of the tissue
- 2:17Speaker 2: that's being removed. If we get consent, then we transplant
- 2:23Speaker 2: small bits of the tissue with our stem cell therapy,
- 2:26Speaker 2: and after three weeks we were able to see that
- 2:29Speaker 2: we had significantly improved the ability of those bits of
- 2:32Speaker 2: tissue to squeeze and relax, and that was the first
- 2:37Speaker 2: time ANYONN has shown improvement mediated by stem cell therapy
- 2:41Speaker 2: in human tissue. So we were really excited about it,
- 2:44Speaker 2: and that seemed to us a really great point to
- 2:47Speaker 2: try and engage with the community to make sure we're
- 2:49Speaker 2: working on the bits of the disease that they want
- 2:52Speaker 2: us to work on and that they support what we're doing.
- 2:55Speaker 2: So we reached out to four families from across the
- 2:59Speaker 2: UK and them to participate in a focus group. We
- 3:03Speaker 2: met up with them five times digitally over the course
- 3:08Speaker 2: of the year and we covered a whole range of topics.
- 3:12Speaker 2: We spoke about the latest research we're doing in the lab,
- 3:16Speaker 2: the research we'd like to do in the future. We
- 3:19Speaker 2: even briefly discussed what the first in child clinical trials
- 3:25Speaker 2: might look like. I'll distress that we're still, unfortunately many
- 3:29Speaker 2: years away from a clinical trial, but it's good to
- 3:32Speaker 2: have the views of the community baked in at this
- 3:34Speaker 2: early stage, so that when we get to that point,
- 3:36Speaker 2: we already know what their opinions are. We had originally
- 3:41Speaker 2: planned to have three digital meetings and then a fourth
- 3:45Speaker 2: in person meeting, and then we realized quite quickly that
- 3:49Speaker 2: having deliberately invited people from all over the UK, it
- 3:52Speaker 2: will be quite unreasonable to expect them to come all
- 3:55Speaker 2: the way down to London.
- 3:56Speaker 1: For an hour or two.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And that's where the idea of having a larger Hirshmung
- 4:01Speaker 2: Disease Awareness date came from and we spoke with the
- 4:05Speaker 2: focus group about this in a sort of unplanned fifth meeting,
- 4:09Speaker 2: and we spoke about sort of what they'd like that
- 4:11Speaker 2: day to include, what they'd hoped to get out of it,
- 4:14Speaker 2: and that has massively shaped the agenda. So we're going
- 4:18Speaker 2: to hear from surgeons, gastreentrologists, and researchers that work on
- 4:23Speaker 2: hirshmung disease. We're hoping to make this day as useful
- 4:27Speaker 2: as possible for the hirshmung disease community, so there will
- 4:30Speaker 2: be talks on ento colitis, talks on stomas. Then we
- 4:34Speaker 2: talked on how to navigate the early years. And I'm
- 4:38Speaker 2: really excited about hosting this awareness state because myself and
- 4:43Speaker 2: my colleagues really enjoyed all of the focus group meetings before.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Before we had the first meeting, I'd gone online. I've
- 4:52Speaker 2: been reading up guides on how to run focus groups,
- 4:55Speaker 2: and they were filled with these horror stories of this
- 4:57Speaker 2: is what to do if a member is, you know,
- 5:00Speaker 2: very aggressive, or doesn't that anyone else talk, or if
- 5:02Speaker 2: no one's engaged, And that wasn't what we found at all.
- 5:05Speaker 2: All the families that we invited were really keen to
- 5:08Speaker 2: take part. They were lovely, they were engaged, and they
- 5:11Speaker 2: gave us so much information that we wouldn't have had
- 5:13Speaker 2: otherwise and so much to think about. So we are
- 5:17Speaker 2: really looking forward to hosting this Hairshprong Disease Awareness State
- 5:20Speaker 2: to continue engaging with the community, and we're hoping to
- 5:25Speaker 2: make it as possible an experience as we can. So
- 5:29Speaker 2: there's gonna be lots of opportunities to network with the
- 5:32Speaker 2: other families and to hear from members of the Hirshprong
- 5:36Speaker 2: disease community.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yes, So a Hirschbrung's Disease Awareness Date certainly the
- 5:41Speaker 1: second one I think I've been part of. I've just
- 5:45Speaker 1: had one I think last February. So this one will
- 5:49Speaker 1: be well coming up this summer, so fourth of July
- 5:53Speaker 1: at UCL correct.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be fourth of July from nine am
- 5:59Speaker 2: to four forty five at the UCO of Great Ormond
- 6:02Speaker 2: Street Institute of Child Health.
- 6:04Speaker 1: That's in London. Fantastic, So again a lot closer for
- 6:08Speaker 1: those who wanted a London based one if it was
- 6:10Speaker 1: a bit too far for the Liverpool. If you're a
- 6:13Speaker 1: bit further south. Like I am, this obviously is ideal
- 6:17Speaker 1: for you. And alongside having nurses and doctors and dietitians
- 6:26Speaker 1: and psychologists, we've also got two speeches from parents within
- 6:34Speaker 1: the Hirshbrons community, and I am very glad to be
- 6:36Speaker 1: joined by one of those special guests in Georgina. Now,
- 6:41Speaker 1: am I right in saying that you'll be talking mainly
- 6:43Speaker 1: through the early years? Is that correct? Yeah?
- 6:48Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm going to talk about our experience my son Freddy.
- 6:52Speaker 3: I've appeared on this podcast a couple of times, but
- 6:54Speaker 3: my son Freddy has Hirshbron's sea's. He has total chronic
- 6:57Speaker 3: hirshbrongs CEA's and he's now with this stoma, having had
- 7:02Speaker 3: all of his colon removed except a very small portion,
- 7:07Speaker 3: and I want to be talking through what that experience
- 7:09Speaker 3: is like for us. I know many of my fellow
- 7:13Speaker 3: parents new to Hirshbrongs disease as a diagnosis, will probably
- 7:18Speaker 3: identify with lots of the stuff that I'm going to
- 7:19Speaker 3: chat about. But I'm also going to chat a little
- 7:21Speaker 3: bit about setting up Hirshbrings Disease UK, which is an
- 7:26Speaker 3: organization that supports and we're we're you know, new this year,
- 7:31Speaker 3: which is really exciting. But our aim is to be
- 7:33Speaker 3: able to support those affected by Hirshbrings disease through a
- 7:36Speaker 3: multitude of support, so whether that's the information on our website,
- 7:40Speaker 3: whether it's parents support or peer support, if you're if
- 7:46Speaker 3: you have Hirshbrongs disease through through many different ages and groups,
- 7:51Speaker 3: but also in supporting healthcare practitioners to understand Hirshbrongs disease
- 7:57Speaker 3: on a deeper level so they get that sort of
- 8:00Speaker 3: lived experience involvement in the work that they do. So
- 8:03Speaker 3: we're talking a little bit about that as well and
- 8:04Speaker 3: where that's come from. And we recently applied with charity
- 8:07Speaker 3: status which we're waiting for. We have some fundraising going on,
- 8:11Speaker 3: but I'm really excited to see how that develops. I'm
- 8:13Speaker 3: going to chat a little bit about Freddie and our experience,
- 8:16Speaker 3: but I'm going to have to be there to speak
- 8:18Speaker 3: to families as well, who are you experiencing what we've
- 8:22Speaker 3: experienced or even in different ways as well, and chat
- 8:26Speaker 3: with them about you know, how many wor words to
- 8:28Speaker 3: support them and what's what they want.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Fantastic I'm really looking forward to I know as you said,
- 8:35Speaker 1: you've come on the podcast a couple of times and
- 8:37Speaker 1: we chatted through Freddie's story. But I'll be really really
- 8:41Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to your presentation so that everybody
- 8:45Speaker 1: can get a chance to see and hear freddie story.
- 8:48Speaker 1: I think will be fantastic. And the other speaker, it's
- 8:52Speaker 1: not with us today, but is Hannah Davis, who has
- 8:54Speaker 1: a son with Hirschprungs. Again, she's been on my podcast
- 8:57Speaker 1: a couple of times. You can see where some of
- 8:59Speaker 1: these guests speakers have come from. I've been doing some recruiting.
- 9:03Speaker 1: But yes, so she'll be coming as well. So you
- 9:07Speaker 1: have two guest speakers to well, two very different stories,
- 9:11Speaker 1: both Hirshbrungs, but two very different stories which will be fantastic.
- 9:16Speaker 1: And again this as well as being very informative for
- 9:20Speaker 1: adults and parents, whether you're an adult like me with
- 9:23Speaker 1: Hirshbrungs or a parent like Georgina with a child with Hirshbrungs,
- 9:27Speaker 1: children are also very much welcome to come last time
- 9:31Speaker 1: and this time as with the older Hey, so I
- 9:35Speaker 1: guess it's there to mention as well, Ben that it
- 9:38Speaker 1: is most definitely open to everyone. Correct.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, We've got room for around eighty people. We've
- 9:49Speaker 2: secured a baby feeding room, which we're hoping we can
- 9:54Speaker 2: also multi purposes a baby changing facility. So yes, all ages,
- 10:00Speaker 2: all types of first Prong disease absolutely welcome. We look
- 10:02Speaker 2: forward to seeing.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Me there absolutely and as you said, eighty eighty places available.
- 10:09Speaker 1: I think when certainly when people talk about Hirshprong's Day
- 10:13Speaker 1: who maybe don't know so much about, you know, the
- 10:16Speaker 1: ins and the outs of the Hirshprong's community, it may
- 10:18Speaker 1: seem eighty people is is a lot. But I think
- 10:23Speaker 1: we're all in agreement that I think the the want
- 10:28Speaker 1: and need for this is going to be huge. So
- 10:32Speaker 1: what I would do when you know, those tickets do
- 10:35Speaker 1: come out around first of May is don't wait, because
- 10:40Speaker 1: I think I think there will be a lot of
- 10:42Speaker 1: people bearing your mind again messages I had after the
- 10:47Speaker 1: older hay Day where people said, oh I really wish
- 10:50Speaker 1: I knew and I missed out and this that the other.
- 10:55Speaker 1: So yes, don't wait. But also, as you said, Ben,
- 10:58Speaker 1: you know this is sort of a trial, trial run
- 11:03Speaker 1: kind of and obviously looking to do things in the future,
- 11:07Speaker 1: which is absolutely amazing. But I'm right in saying this
- 11:10Speaker 1: is more of a sort of see how it goes
- 11:12Speaker 1: type thing to begin with.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Very much we're hoping so, I mean, so we've also
- 11:18Speaker 2: invited Rachel Harwood, who was part of the team organizing
- 11:21Speaker 2: the alder Hey event, to speak at this event about
- 11:24Speaker 2: the research that her team are doing first Rong disease
- 11:27Speaker 2: and the engagement that Rachel Harwood got with the hush
- 11:32Speaker 2: frong disease when as they I think that was last year,
- 11:34Speaker 2: wasn't it, Yes, last February.
- 11:37Speaker 1: I think, yeah, a year ago.
- 11:39Speaker 2: So that was fantastic, And I mean, we'd really hope
- 11:42Speaker 2: moving forward into the future if we can secure funding
- 11:45Speaker 2: to be able to sort of maybe alternate years hosting
- 11:48Speaker 2: it in all the hay and hosting it down in
- 11:52Speaker 2: the South so that it makes it easier for people
- 11:54Speaker 2: to get to and engage.
- 11:56Speaker 1: So yeah, if people are able.
- 11:57Speaker 2: To attend and they feel their like to give us feedback,
- 12:00Speaker 2: that would be great, so that we can push that
- 12:03Speaker 2: forward and try and make each subsequent event if we
- 12:06Speaker 2: are able to hold them even better.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing, And just on the agenda itself, I've never
- 12:13Speaker 1: talked about as guest speakers, but there's all all kinds
- 12:17Speaker 1: of different talks about different topics. I mean it's it's
- 12:21Speaker 1: a smagers board of of really entertaining and really interesting topics.
- 12:29Speaker 1: I mean entricolitis, you've got psychological, you've got diet, you've
- 12:33Speaker 1: got navigating early years, transitioning from pediatric to adults. So
- 12:37Speaker 1: I think whatever stage you're at, whatever whatever type of
- 12:42Speaker 1: Hirschbrungs you have as well. So this isn't just limited
- 12:45Speaker 1: to one type. This is whatever type you have, whatever
- 12:48Speaker 1: stage you're at, I think there will most certainly be
- 12:52Speaker 1: something for everyone. And just as we wrap up, I
- 12:58Speaker 1: just just one thing from from both of you. I
- 13:00Speaker 1: guess one thing that you are possibly excited for or
- 13:06Speaker 1: really looking forward to for the day. So we'll go
- 13:09Speaker 1: ladies first, Georgina, what are you looking forward to?
- 13:12Speaker 2: Thank Tom.
- 13:13Speaker 3: I think I'm just really excited to be with other people.
- 13:19Speaker 3: I think that's something that a lot of families feel.
- 13:21Speaker 3: It's quite lonely, quite isolated. You know, it might be
- 13:25Speaker 3: quite a while or a distance away that you might
- 13:28Speaker 3: find people who've got a diagnosis of Hirshbun's disease. And
- 13:31Speaker 3: then also they're at different stages, and so I think
- 13:34Speaker 3: it could be really hard to connect with people. So
- 13:36Speaker 3: I think, one, I'm really excited about that, but also
- 13:39Speaker 3: really excited to have sort of the investment from you guys,
- 13:43Speaker 3: Ben and the interest and care that goes into this
- 13:47Speaker 3: kind of thing for families because again, I think it's
- 13:50Speaker 3: a lonely experience. I think it can feel pretty difficult
- 13:54Speaker 3: navigating and you have to become an expert in a
- 13:56Speaker 3: condition you've just never heard of before. And I think
- 13:59Speaker 3: the fact that we're able to work together this with
- 14:02Speaker 3: you know, multi partners from healthcare teams across the UK,
- 14:06Speaker 3: but also with doing loads of outreach with with other
- 14:09Speaker 3: groups like TOM and also myself, I think it just
- 14:12Speaker 3: pays the way for a deeper level of support for people,
- 14:16Speaker 3: which I think is just grossly needed. And I think
- 14:19Speaker 3: that that's really going to be an exciting step for
- 14:22Speaker 3: us as a community as we move through the next
- 14:26Speaker 3: couple of years that there's going to be support in place,
- 14:29Speaker 3: whatever that looks at, where that stays in person, where
- 14:31Speaker 3: that's more connections, so that I'm just really excited about it.
- 14:35Speaker 2: I can't wait.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Same absolutely, I'll echoed that one hundred percent and same
- 14:40Speaker 1: question to you. But I think that was a great answer.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Share I'm really looking forward to engaging with the community.
- 14:49Speaker 2: I look forward to all of the meetings with the
- 14:52Speaker 2: focus group. They gave such fantastic insights. We've opened up
- 14:57Speaker 2: new research avenues based on what they've said, So the
- 15:01Speaker 2: community giving feedback really does shape what we do in
- 15:04Speaker 2: the future. I mean, in particular, there there's another researcher
- 15:09Speaker 2: who we've invited to speak at the event, Professor Katie Harron,
- 15:13Speaker 2: who is a brilliant statistician we've been working with and
- 15:18Speaker 2: she's been using anonymous data to track how many times
- 15:21Speaker 2: an individual has to attend hospital in the years after
- 15:24Speaker 2: their surgery for heirshprangzies. There's completely anonymous, there's no identifying
- 15:28Speaker 2: information like names, birthdays, or where they're from. But what
- 15:33Speaker 2: she can see is how often sort of individual X
- 15:37Speaker 2: has attended hospital and what the general category of their
- 15:40Speaker 2: complaint was, and Katie can them pair that with the
- 15:44Speaker 2: educational outcomes to build up the average journey a child
- 15:48Speaker 2: with hirshmarngzis will experience. I think that's a really valuable
- 15:51Speaker 2: resource for parents have newly diagnosed children. The focus group
- 15:56Speaker 2: also placed quite a lot of emphasis in a lot
- 15:58Speaker 2: of the meetings on the role of diet in day
- 16:04Speaker 2: to day life. So they requested that when we had
- 16:07Speaker 2: this day, there'd be a talk from someone who's able
- 16:11Speaker 2: to offer dietetic support.
- 16:13Speaker 1: So we've got Hannah Day. Who are we talking.
- 16:15Speaker 2: About the role of diet, Which I'm really excited about,
- 16:19Speaker 2: I hope, I suppose.
- 16:20Speaker 1: I'm just most excited.
- 16:21Speaker 2: About making a really positive day filled with lots of
- 16:24Speaker 2: information that will be valuable for the community, and hearing
- 16:28Speaker 2: what the community has to say.
- 16:29Speaker 1: About the work we do. Excellent, excellent, Well, this has
- 16:34Speaker 1: been brilliant. I'm really glad that we've got we now
- 16:36Speaker 1: announce it and now everybody knows, and I'm just I'm
- 16:40Speaker 1: really looking forward to well meeting both of you, but
- 16:43Speaker 1: beating everybody and sharing those Hirshbrung's experiences. So it's going
- 16:48Speaker 1: to be it's going to be a fantastic day. So yes,
- 16:50Speaker 1: we're looking forward to fourth of July at UCL. Tickets
- 16:54Speaker 1: will be available by the first of May, and the
- 16:57Speaker 1: link for those tickets will be in the description below
- 17:01Speaker 1: because the website is very long, so I've got to
- 17:05Speaker 1: copy and paste. But guys, thank you so so much
- 17:09Speaker 1: for doing this, for being part of the announcement and
- 17:12Speaker 1: I will see you both on the fourth of July.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Tom, you there, Thank you for
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