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- 0:02Hello and welcome to the podcast.
- 0:04Today we're going to talk about how to gain confidence or how to
- 0:08get confidence when selling. The reason why we're looking at
- 0:12that today is because people have misconceptions when it
- 0:16comes to this sort of thing. You are new to business and new
- 0:21to sales. You're trying to sell something
- 0:23and people just say, you know, young man, be confident or you
- 0:26know, you're a woman, I'll be confident.
- 0:28You're a young woman, you're not a girl anymore.
- 0:29Be confident. And because of that, people do
- 0:33not understand what confidence is or how confidence plays into
- 0:38selling. Now, confidence isn't something
- 0:41that comes before you do the thing.
- 0:45Let me repeat, all of you who are running around telling
- 0:48people that look isn't our sales, be confident.
- 0:52You're getting it wrong. Confidence does not come before
- 0:56you do the thing. Confidence comes after you do
- 1:01something. Let me repeat, confidence
- 1:04doesn't come before. Confidence comes after you do
- 1:07the thing. Oh, First off, introductions.
- 1:10My name is Tava Shima Ayedi. I'm a former lawyer turned
- 1:13business consultant. In case you're listening to the
- 1:15podcast for the first time. And if you like these sorts of
- 1:18things, how do you sell? How do you grow your business?
- 1:21How do you grow your revenues? Then make sure you subscribe to
- 1:24the podcast on Spotify, on Apple iTunes, on YouTube, or any
- 1:29player of your choice. And if you'd love to connect
- 1:31with me, you can call, send me a text message or a WhatsApp
- 1:35message on 08064662140. So, yeah, we're talking about
- 1:45how to get confidence or how to gain confidence when selling.
- 1:48And that's because lots of people think you can just tell
- 1:50somebody, come on now, be confident, no B sales.
- 1:53And then they will just share somehow confidence will
- 1:57materialize. And I was trying to explain
- 1:59before I introduced myself, before I took that little break
- 2:02that confidence comes after you do something, not before.
- 2:07Now this is how you define confidence.
- 2:09I'm not going to talk about the dictionary definition.
- 2:11Confidence is that feeling of I can do this.
- 2:16And for those of you who are worried that your salespeople
- 2:18can't sell well or maybe you are in business and you can't sell
- 2:21well, you think that by looking at yourself in the mirror, you'd
- 2:23be telling yourself I'm confident, I'm confident, I'm
- 2:26confident. Because of that, magically
- 2:29you'll just feel as if I can do this.
- 2:33Now, unfortunately, that's not how it works.
- 2:36Confidence is I can do this, but the feeling of I can do this
- 2:40usually comes because I have done this thing before and I did
- 2:45it successfully. Even if I did it wrongly.
- 2:48At least now I know one or two things that can't work, so
- 2:51therefore I'm confident. Maybe 3-4 podcast episodes ago I
- 2:57was talking about similarities between sales and chess and it's
- 3:01the same thing. The reason why I can step to the
- 3:04board and be confident as a chess player is because I have
- 3:07played it before. I have succeeded before and
- 3:12there are times that I have messed up severely.
- 3:16But the combination of those two, the times any what and the
- 3:20times where therefore I know that I should be able to have a
- 3:23steady hand so long as I'm in this kind of situation, that
- 3:26kind of situation that is confidence.
- 3:29Confidence is I can do this thing because I have done it
- 3:33before. So the confidence speaker is
- 3:36confident not because he stood in front of the mirror said I am
- 3:39huge, I am magnanimous, I am blessed, I am ample, I am
- 3:43abundant, I am confident. No, that's not what they did.
- 3:47The confident speaker, believe me, is confident on stage
- 3:51because he or she, they've done it before.
- 3:56The confident lawyer that you see, because of course, you know
- 3:59I should be a former lawyer, is not because they manifested
- 4:04confidence, is because they have done the lawyering before.
- 4:08They have done the research ahead of time.
- 4:11They have familiarized themselves with the position
- 4:14before they show up in court to start arguing the motion in
- 4:17front of the judge. They are confident because they
- 4:20have done the thing before, not after.
- 4:24The confident doctor, the confident salesperson, the
- 4:27confident architect, the confident pilot, the confident
- 4:30whatever. Even the confident village chief
- 4:35or DBR, they're confident because they have done the thing
- 4:40before. So for those of you who keep
- 4:44shouting, no, B Sales isn't not talking.
- 4:46Be confident. What you're actually trying to
- 4:48tell your people is you're trying to tell them, find
- 4:50courage. Now, what is courage?
- 4:56Courage is, I'm afraid, but I have good reason to go ahead.
- 5:03That is simply what courage is. For those of us who are married
- 5:07now, young men remember, like not primary school into junior.
- 5:13Secondary school is that baby or class that you like.
- 5:16You like being, you know, but you don't know how you go and
- 5:21play with her or how you say what's up or how you sit next to
- 5:24her. What you needed at that time was
- 5:26not confidence. What you need at that time was
- 5:29courage. I'm afraid I like being.
- 5:32I think being doesn't like me, but I can find good reasons to
- 5:36go ahead. What you're looking for is
- 5:40courage. So there are lots of good
- 5:44reasons to go ahead. One good reason to go ahead is
- 5:47I've prepared or I've studied or I know the framework or I know
- 5:54what to expect. I know what to say.
- 5:58I know what the risks are. The risks are not really that
- 6:02big or so long as I avoid this aspect and that aspect, I should
- 6:06be OK. But there will always be an
- 6:09element of fear and we will always need courage before we do
- 6:14the thing. So for those of you who think
- 6:17because I've been on the radio now for over a year, I've been
- 6:23podcasting now for over six years and I've been doing public
- 6:27speaking for a very long time. For those of you who think I
- 6:30just step on stage and it's easy and I don't need a dose of
- 6:33courage, you are wrong. In fact, I remember the first
- 6:36time I had to address an audience of 1600 when I was
- 6:43discussing with organizers. I was like 1006.
- 6:47I was now wondering, I say my mind Tavishima, honestly, I've
- 6:50even addressed 500 before. So what I did was we went ahead
- 6:55with the whole thing, the same market details.
- 6:58Then the next day, because my kids were home, then I told
- 7:02them, you know, I'm going out, I'm going, I'm going to do a
- 7:05recce. I say, what's a recce?
- 7:06And I say recce. Reconnaissance is all we used to
- 7:09do as wedding photographers. Before you shoot at the venue
- 7:12for the first time, you go out and you scalp the venue.
- 7:16How big, how small, how high is the ceiling?
- 7:19Are the walls white, black? Would there be any problems?
- 7:22Any nice places where you can do portraits?
- 7:24You know, those simple sorts of things.
- 7:26So I decided to do a recce. I went to the venue just to look
- 7:30at it, just to see what 1006 feels like because I'd never
- 7:34spoken in front of 1600 people. Then when I got there, I was
- 7:39like, oh, because it turns out that, you know, it's a simple
- 7:43haul, the kind of things would shoot back in my wedding
- 7:45photography days. I was like, he was like, there's
- 7:48no problem now I got this. So I found good reason to go
- 7:55ahead because I went to go and scout the place and I went to
- 8:00and I saw that OK, if 1006 is this kind of hall, it's not that
- 8:04bad. It's a kind of venue I would
- 8:07even normally have shot at as a wedding photographer.
- 8:10So I found courage. Then the speech went off well,
- 8:16now I have confidence. The next time they said Tavish
- 8:20and Malcolm and speak in front of 1006 or 2000, I'll say and
- 8:242000 and is all the same 1/6/2001 eight.
- 8:27What's the difference? Because I've done it before and
- 8:30I have confidence. So you can find lots of good
- 8:36reasons to go ahead whenever you are scared.
- 8:41Now, if you are a newbie, you are a jam bite.
- 8:46This is your first time selling. This is your first time in
- 8:49business. This is your first time in
- 8:52selling, in sales, in business. My advice is, unfortunately, I
- 8:57have to bend with your gas in this case.
- 9:00Yeah, you need to find some courage.
- 9:01But don't worry, the confidence will come later.
- 9:05Confidence will come as you build competence.
- 9:09For those of you who've been listening to the podcast for a
- 9:11while and you're familiar of familiar of Tom Hopkins and his
- 9:16frameworks, because I talk about Tom Hopkins quite a bit.
- 9:20Competence, credibility, competence.
- 9:24The competence will come. Just continue to build.
- 9:30So if you're new to selling, new to sales, new to business, there
- 9:34are a couple of things that you need to keep doing over and over
- 9:37again until you get confidence. So #1 prospecting.
- 9:43Prospecting is when you try and figure out who might be
- 9:46interested in your product or your service.
- 9:48Then you come up with a strategy for how you're going to talk to
- 9:51those people and how you, you know, start off the
- 9:53conversation. Whether online or offline, you
- 9:57need to do prospecting over and over and over and over again so
- 10:01that you get confident in prospecting.
- 10:05Lifting up the phone to dial A stranger to try and sell
- 10:11something is hard and it's scary.
- 10:14It will only get easy the more you do it over time.
- 10:19So the salesperson that you see who grabs the phone and he
- 10:21handles the conversation masterfully is because the guy's
- 10:24been doing it for a while, the paper's been doing it for a
- 10:27while. Somebody who's been doing sales
- 10:2915 years and somebody who has been doing sales 15 days,
- 10:32there's a difference. Relax, you will get there.
- 10:37So you need to do prospecting over and over and over again.
- 10:42Another thing that you need to practice over and over again so
- 10:44that you gain confidence is need analysis or being consultative
- 10:48with people. Being consultative with people
- 10:50just means when you're in front of someone, you need to be able
- 10:53to figure them out, suss them out, listen to them, ask
- 10:57questions, know what the problem is so that you can make an
- 11:00effective recommendation. I was talking to Miss Oma
- 11:05recently. She's a listener of the podcast,
- 11:08and she used to be in the beauty space.
- 11:10She's currently now the manager of a store where they sell
- 11:13electronics. And it's a conversation, you
- 11:16know, that we had about the people that she's now managing.
- 11:20Your people need to be more consultative.
- 11:23You don't just tell people who come into the shop, buy this
- 11:25fridge because Thermocool is the best.
- 11:28Who told you Thermocool is the best?
- 11:30Even if Thermocool is the best, is it the best for this
- 11:33particular person that you're talking to?
- 11:36You have to get good at doing need analysis and figuring out
- 11:39who it is that you're talking to.
- 11:41Because even if Thermocool is the best fridge, there are some
- 11:45people that OK, which other fridge is there?
- 11:49Phillips. There are some people that
- 11:50Phillips is the best fridge for them.
- 11:55So you need to learn how to be consultative.
- 11:57So the more you start talking to people, asking them questions,
- 12:00trying to figure them out, trying to figure out what they
- 12:03need, the better you will get and the more confident you will
- 12:06get. You also need to.
- 12:12Another thing you need to do over and over and over again to
- 12:15get confidence is you need to do lots of proposals and lots of
- 12:19presentations. The proposal or a presentation
- 12:22is not part of the selling conversation or the selling
- 12:25relationship where you say auger, Madame Bros.
- 12:28Sir, based on what we have said so far, if my understanding is
- 12:33correct, if XYZ are the problems that we're trying to solve, then
- 12:37I think that option one, option two, option three, either of
- 12:42them are going to be good for you because they will help you
- 12:44solve ABC problems. And we're going to do that.
- 12:50We're going to be able to do that.
- 12:55Option A will require XYZ investment.
- 12:57Option B will require this. Option C will require this.
- 13:01So a proposal or a presentation is the stage where you say, if I
- 13:05understand you correctly, this is how we can solve your problem
- 13:10and this is what will be required of you.
- 13:13And of course, this is what we are going to do in return to
- 13:16help you solve this problem or achieve your vision.
- 13:19That is what proposal is. You have to do that over and
- 13:23over and over and over again so that you can build confidence.
- 13:29Then another thing that you ought to practice.
- 13:31And in fact, Nigerians, Nigerian people, my brothers and sisters,
- 13:35we need to practice this one because for some reason, I see
- 13:39I'm in the same boat because in the beginning I was like that
- 13:41too as a young wedding photographer, even as a young
- 13:45lawyer. OK, well, as a young layer, I
- 13:47was my old guy who used to close deals, so that was not my own
- 13:50problem. But as a young wedding
- 13:51photographer, he quickly became our own problem.
- 13:54I'll make a proposal. We'll look at samples, you know,
- 13:59look at everything. And once I dazzle them with all
- 14:02my fizzy, I'll now keep quiet and lean back.
- 14:05And then the bride will say those those dreaded words.
- 14:09So we say I'll get back to you. And of course, we all know that
- 14:14when people say I'll get back to you from there, you enter into
- 14:17ghosting. Don't be picking call again or
- 14:21you know how to pursue the conversation again.
- 14:25I didn't know how to secure commitments and lots of you
- 14:29manage young brothers and sisters listening to this
- 14:30podcast. You don't know how to secure
- 14:32commitments. So it's something you have to do
- 14:34over and over and over again so that you can gain confidence.
- 14:40You need to get into the habit of trying to secure commitments.
- 14:43So after you do the proposal, which is Bros SA Madam OGA
- 14:48buying committee, panel of buyers, you know, whoever you're
- 14:52addressing, if I understand the situation correctly, the main
- 14:56problems we're trying to achieve is ABC and 123.
- 15:00If that is the case, this is how our product and our service can
- 15:04help you achieve that. We can do that by exploring
- 15:06options 1-2 and three. Just follow me for a bit.
- 15:10Let's try and figure out which option will suit you the best.
- 15:13Option A will require this. Option B will require this.
- 15:16Option C will require this. You will have to do this.
- 15:18We will have to do this. The investment required for
- 15:21option A will be 2.5 million. The investment required for
- 15:25option B will be 4.5. The investment required for
- 15:27option C will be 6.8. Then the part about securing
- 15:33commitments is where you start doing trial closes or where you
- 15:36start trying to narrow things down and where you start trying
- 15:38to get them to commit to something.
- 15:40So when you start asking questions, like for the options
- 15:43we have discussed so far, option A, option B, option C, where do
- 15:47you think you fall within that spectrum?
- 15:50You're not telling the person buy now, pay now what?
- 15:53You're beginning to narrow things down.
- 15:54You're beginning to get somebody to commit to something small.
- 15:58You didn't say give me the money, make the transfer.
- 16:02You just ask for a small commitment.
- 16:03Of the options that we have looked at so far, where do you
- 16:06fall? Of the options that we've looked
- 16:08like, looked, looked at, which one do you like?
- 16:13Of the options that we've looked at so far, what matches the
- 16:15allocation that you guys had in mind?
- 16:17You know something, but you're beginning to narrow things down.
- 16:20Small, small, small. You'll be need to get people to
- 16:23commit to something, no matter how small.
- 16:27You need to do this over and over and over and over again so
- 16:31you can get confidence. All right, it's been 15 minutes.
- 16:35Let me bring this. We're close.
- 16:36Summary. What I want to achieve in this
- 16:40podcast recording is this. For those of you who are
- 16:44newbies, even if you're not a newbie, you have a certain level
- 16:47of experience. Stop trying to compare yourself
- 16:52to smooth talkers or stop trying to compare yourself to people
- 16:55who are smoother than you. These people have had a very
- 17:00long time to get there. What you just need to do at your
- 17:03own stage is gather some courage and look and move forward.
- 17:06Look for some reasons, some good reasons why you should be going
- 17:09ahead and let me moving forward. Don't worry, the more you do,
- 17:13the more confidence you get. The confidence will take care of
- 17:15itself over time. Stop looking at the mirror and
- 17:18stop chanting and stop trying to manufacture confidence.
- 17:23Look for reason just to gather some courage.
- 17:26That's all. The confidence will come then.
- 17:32Some of you might not like this, but I have to say it for now
- 17:38anyway. When you become advanced in
- 17:40sales, no problem. But for now that you're a
- 17:41beginner, please stop listening to motivational speakers.
- 17:46Motivational speakers mean well and they're teaching lots of
- 17:49advanced techniques when it comes to elocution, carriage,
- 17:54body language, spatial control, special awareness, what else?
- 18:02What else? Manifesting Abby They mean well.
- 18:06But The thing is, if you listen to plenty of motivational
- 18:08speakers right now as you're a newbie, you'll get into plenty
- 18:12of trouble because you're going to head into situations with
- 18:16false confidence. Meanwhile you have no actual
- 18:20competence in the matter. When I was a secondary school,
- 18:26they used to say empty barrel. If you listen to motivational
- 18:29speakers, you end up becoming an empty barrel.
- 18:32You look in the mirror, you hype yourself up, you're feeling
- 18:34good, you puff up your chest. If you're a guy, you wear your
- 18:37correct suit, you strut into the situation.
- 18:39You're feeling all confident, all confidence in the world.
- 18:44And then people are impressed by your confidence.
- 18:46But when? But then by the time you open
- 18:47your mouth, the lack of experience will begin to show
- 18:50and everything will start to crumble because you don't have
- 18:53actual competence in the matter. You have not done the thing.
- 18:58So motivational speakers, motivational speaking is good,
- 19:01but it's not what you need for now.
- 19:04There are some fundamentals. There are some basics that you
- 19:07need to master when it comes to sales and selling.
- 19:09Master those foundational things first.
- 19:12After that, you cannot worry about whether you should wear
- 19:15black suit or pinstripe suit. You now worry about whether you
- 19:18should do power poles or whether you should stand with your arms
- 19:21crossed. You now worry about whether
- 19:23you're manifesting to the universe or whether you are
- 19:25calling on you know, whatever you cannot worry about special
- 19:29awareness and how you use the stage or how you use your props
- 19:33or how you use your microphone. All our advanced techniques is
- 19:38not for now. For now, learn the fundamentals
- 19:42and you'll be fine. But please just know that this
- 19:45whole thing of and get confidence that no, no, no, no,
- 19:49confidence doesn't come before. Confidence comes after you do
- 19:52the thing. So your job is just to make sure
- 19:54that you do the thing as often as you can get lots of reps.
- 19:59And if you want to know the kinds of things that you should
- 20:01keep on repeating and doing over and over and over to get better
- 20:04ad sales, I've already spoken about a couple of them.
- 20:07So pause this thing, rewind. I'll be start again and listen
- 20:12and you should be OK. So thank you very much for
- 20:15listening again. I'm Tava Shima Ayede, the host
- 20:17of the podcast. Remember, if you'd love to
- 20:19connect with me, you can call. You can send me a text message
- 20:22or WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
- 20:29I'm available for questions, comments, queries, or
- 20:32collaborations. And if you enjoy all the things
- 20:34that we're talking about over here so far, please subscribe to
- 20:37the podcast on Spotify, on Apple iTunes or YouTube or wherever it
- 20:42is that you listen to the podcast.
- 20:44Also, please give your boy a review.
- 20:46I mean I have 4000 subscribers, only 90 of you have given me a
- 20:49review on Spotify. Like come on now.
- 20:52Help you boy. Help you boy.
- 20:54All right, so that's it. Thank you very much for your
- 20:57time and attention. I will catch you all some other
- 21:00time.