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- 0:01Hello, and welcome to the show. It's available on YouTube, Apple
- 0:04Podcast and Spotify. And I'm your host, Tavi Shima
- 0:08IED. Today's going to be a noisy
- 0:10episode because I'm home. I'm not an audio booth.
- 0:12And so expect to hear some interruptions, especially since
- 0:15my neighbor, you know, the one with the cosmetic, I said
- 0:17commerce, cosmetic, commercial kitchen.
- 0:21Yeah. So his staff are around and, you
- 0:22know, as usual, they're yapping on about.
- 0:24So expect to hear them coming in through the recording.
- 0:28Then if you'd love to connect with me and explore
- 0:30opportunities, then call me on 08064662140 or you can WhatsApp
- 0:37me on the same number. The country code is +234.
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- 0:43media, connect with me on LinkedIn.
- 0:47Today on the show, I'd like us to explore how you should hire a
- 0:51female salesperson, a female customer service Rep and a
- 0:55female front desk person. Now, the reason why I want us to
- 0:59tackle this topic today was because I had a rather
- 1:03interesting and sometimes worrying troubling conversation
- 1:09with some people who are not participants of the training
- 1:12that I did recently with Avon Innovation Hub that I called
- 1:16based out in Abuja. So recently we collaborated on a
- 1:19training on digital marketing for women where we brought
- 1:23together a bunch of women from different spheres of life.
- 1:29We had two people who run NGOs, 1 in the environmental space,
- 1:33another one in the mental health for female adolescents.
- 1:43We had a few people in fashion, one person who was a chef trying
- 1:46to branch out into real estate sales, Let's see what else.
- 1:50And then one person who works with a startup in the business
- 1:53networking space. What else?
- 1:56Anyway, we had a whole bunch of women put together.
- 1:58I was really interesting course. And I've made some episodes
- 2:02around that. So when you're done listening to
- 2:04this, you can just look for the podcast episode before this one.
- 2:08I think they were titled Day one, day 2, day three, digital
- 2:13marketing for women or something like that.
- 2:15So if you listen to those episodes, you're going to get
- 2:18caught up to speed. Now some participants, sorry,
- 2:22non participants, you know, people who happen to be passing
- 2:25through, wanted my opinion on a couple of things.
- 2:27Obviously because I'm into sales and obviously because of the
- 2:32kind of topics that we were addressing during the training
- 2:34session. So on one of those days, the day
- 2:39for the demo day, that was after we're done with everything,
- 2:43we're about to graduate the whole class, and then we're
- 2:45having a few test sessions to be able to see how well they
- 2:48internalize the concepts that we discussed.
- 2:51I wanted to be sure that we're going to be able to take the
- 2:53things that we had learned and then apply them to their
- 2:56businesses, specific things that they would do in marketing and
- 3:00social media to move their businesses forward.
- 3:03And so somebody wanted my opinion and the question was how
- 3:06you should you hire a female salesperson, customer service
- 3:10Rep or front desk person? In fact, I'm the one who is
- 3:12putting it in such elevated language because the question
- 3:15actually was, can you identify feminine aura?
- 3:19Can you identify feminine energy?
- 3:21Should you hire somebody because of primal sex appeal or how do
- 3:24you hire the most charming woman for the job?
- 3:27That was actually the those the kind of questions that I was
- 3:29posed. What is feminine aura?
- 3:32How do you identify feminine aura?
- 3:36How do you get those sorts of people to come and walk for you?
- 3:38What is feminine energy? How can we get women to be much
- 3:41more feminine? What is it that makes men want
- 3:45to buy from certain women? Is it primal sex appeal?
- 3:48How do we get people to become more charming so that they can
- 3:50sell more? So those were the kinds of
- 3:52questions that I was I was asked actually.
- 3:55So I am the one who is now trying to tidy up the question
- 3:58by saying, how should you hire a female salesperson, customer
- 4:00service Rep or a front desk person?
- 4:03And I'm going to dedicate not just this episode, but the next
- 4:06couple of episodes to answering this question.
- 4:08Is feminine aura important when it comes to these kinds of
- 4:13roles? Is feminine energy important
- 4:17when it comes to these sorts of roles?
- 4:19Is primal sex appeal important when it comes to these sorts of
- 4:23roles? And is it necessary that a
- 4:26female salesperson, a female customer service Rep, or a
- 4:29female front desk person, is it absolutely necessary that she
- 4:33should be charming? Now, before I start answering
- 4:37the question, let me give you what my main thesis is, at least
- 4:40for now. Eventually, I'm going to refine
- 4:42my ideas a little bit more on the topic, but I have a core
- 4:45thesis and my core thesis is this.
- 4:48These factors are absolutely great.
- 4:51Yes, a woman should have family in aura, a woman should have
- 4:54family in energy, a woman should have primal sex appeal, and a
- 4:57woman should have charm. Yes, these things are absolutely
- 4:59important, but they are great for other kinds of roles and
- 5:04other kinds of contexts, but they are not essential when
- 5:09we're talking about customer facing roles.
- 5:11So let me repeat before somebody quotes me out of context.
- 5:15If you're worried as a woman about whether your family aura
- 5:19or your family in chakra or your family in whatever is developed
- 5:22and it's manifest and is and is on point, I mean, that's
- 5:25fantastic. By all means, working in family,
- 5:27in aura, if you're worried about your family and energy, maybe
- 5:31you want to downplay masculine energy and you want your family
- 5:33and energy to be more upfront. I mean, whatever rocks your boat
- 5:39is fantastic if you want to walk on your primal sexual appeal or
- 5:42that that that is not a problem. And if you want to walk on your
- 5:45charm, it's beautiful. But this is my thesis.
- 5:49These things are great for other kinds of roles and for other
- 5:53kinds of contexts. But when we are talking about
- 5:56business and customer facing roles, aura, feminine energy,
- 6:01primal sex appeal and charm are not essential for customer
- 6:06facing roles. And This is why when we have
- 6:11customer facing roles in the business like sales, like
- 6:14customer service or like a front desk person or a receptionist or
- 6:19a TE or APA or whatever it is I want to call them.
- 6:22By the way, these roles are not exclusively female.
- 6:24The only reason why I'm tackling this from a female perspective
- 6:26is because the question I was asked was specifically around
- 6:31feminine aura, feminine energy, primal sex appeal, and then
- 6:35charm. And then of course, the
- 6:36conversation went into that whole thing about how men of one
- 6:42track focused, you know, women can twist men anyhow to buy
- 6:45anything, to do anything and blah, blah, blah.
- 6:48And of course, at some point I had to keep reminding them like,
- 6:50hey guys, like I'm here, I'm a guy.
- 6:54You know, we men, we can't think.
- 6:55We have brains. We're not as susceptible to some
- 6:59of these things as you may think.
- 7:01Well, and it turned out to be a real nice, interesting
- 7:02conversation. But anyway, these things are not
- 7:05essential for customer facing rules because for customer
- 7:08facing rules, whoever is doing this job is going to be
- 7:13concerned primarily with problem solving.
- 7:19A salesperson is always solving a problem.
- 7:22A customer service Rep is always solving a problem.
- 7:25A front desk person is always solving a problem.
- 7:28ATA is always solving a problem. APA is always solving a problem,
- 7:33and none of these criteria help with problem solving.
- 7:37Feminine Aura will not help you solve more problems.
- 7:40Feminine energy will not help you solve more problems.
- 7:43Primal sex appeal will not help you solve more problems.
- 7:47In fact, in my own opinion, primal sex appeal will cause
- 7:50more problems in the business context.
- 7:54Why do you think this fellow that owns this restaurant,
- 7:57what's it called? As this restaurant is big in the
- 8:00east, some places in Abuja and some places in the Hegevinic,
- 8:04some places in Lagos. Why do you think he only has men
- 8:06working in his restaurants? I asked the question a while
- 8:10back and I thought, this guy doesn't want to make money
- 8:13because everybody knows you want to make money.
- 8:15Have pleasant, wonderful women serving your restaurants and
- 8:19then sell alcohol. And then you have patrons
- 8:21coming, coming and coming. But there's no alcohol in those
- 8:24restaurants and it's only men that serve.
- 8:29And I got the answer back and the answer was, look, this guy
- 8:31just wants to do clean business with no funny business
- 8:36whatsoever. So no alcohol, you come in, you
- 8:39eat great food and then you leave.
- 8:41There's no such thing as, oh, somebody came here, somebody
- 8:44stole my husband, somebody's harassing my staff.
- 8:46None of those issues whatsoever. So prime and sex appeal can
- 8:52actually cause complications in your business.
- 8:55Charm is not going to help you with solving problems.
- 8:59And that is reason why these things, even though they are
- 9:02important and they are wonderful and it is good for people to try
- 9:06and work on those, you know, both men and women, they are not
- 9:10going to help you in the business context because the
- 9:13salesperson, the customer service Rep, the front desk
- 9:16person, they are concerned with problem, sorry, solving problems
- 9:20every single day. And feminine aura, feminine
- 9:23energy, primal sex appeal and charm are not going to help you.
- 9:28In fact, let me give you a warning.
- 9:31If you induce a sale, if you get somebody to buy and you're not
- 9:36using good sales practice or not using good sales discipline,
- 9:40there's something called buyers remorse or buyers regret.
- 9:43Buyers remorse and buyers regret cover scenarios where somebody
- 9:47has already bought something, confirmed they've given you the
- 9:50money, but now they feel like they have bought the wrong thing
- 9:54or they have bought a useless thing and because of that they
- 9:57are either angry with you, the business, the business owner, or
- 10:01they're angry with themselves. Like how could I have been that
- 10:03stupid to buy this sort of thing?
- 10:06So when you induce a sale and you don't use core sales
- 10:10practice, you end up with buyers remorse.
- 10:12Buyers regret because people have unutilised purchases or
- 10:17unfulfilled purchases. So the reason why this is
- 10:21important is this, a sexy woman can sell a product or service
- 10:26once, but a sexy woman can't guarantee a repeat customer
- 10:34except in certain contexts. And business is all about repeat
- 10:37customers and repeat purchases. Which is the reason why in
- 10:41traditional sales we worry so much about badge remorse and
- 10:43badge regret. Because it does not pay you for
- 10:46somebody to come and buy once and then the person is angry and
- 10:49the person doesn't come back. If you're selling something and
- 10:52your profit margin is 10K only thing, it makes more sense for
- 10:55you to try and see how you can get one customer to buy this 10K
- 10:59thing. But for him to come and buy it
- 11:0030 times in a year, that is where you will make money.
- 11:04If the person comes and buys the item once and you make your 10K
- 11:07margin once and the person never comes back, or the person never
- 11:10tells his friends or his family members or his associates or
- 11:13people from his church or whatever, then you're not making
- 11:17as much money as you should. So it's all about repeat
- 11:19business. Now, a woman who has feminine
- 11:21aura, feminine energy, primal sex appeal and the charm can get
- 11:26a sale once yet as possible, but does that mean she's going to be
- 11:29able to get repeat purchase? She can in certain kinds of
- 11:34scenarios, but for the sorts of things that we do, I'm selling
- 11:37consultancy services. I've been a wedding
- 11:39photographer, sell media services.
- 11:42You listening to do show, you probably sell cakes, party
- 11:45planning, solar panels, what else?
- 11:51Yams, roasted fish, you're starting a fintech, Whatever it
- 11:57is, you might be able to get somebody to give you a sale or a
- 12:02donation or whatever once because of your feminine aura or
- 12:06your feminine energy or your primal sex appeal or your charm.
- 12:10But that will not help you to create a repeat customer in
- 12:14certain contexts. So that is my warning to you
- 12:17guys who have this point of view anyway, because it was a soft,
- 12:23casual conversation and I was not there to lecture these sorts
- 12:25of people. And also because we're in the
- 12:27public place, I didn't grill them and lecture them the way
- 12:34I'm going to grill you guys and lecture you guys now.
- 12:38And yes, this is going to be a grill and a lecture.
- 12:40The reason why I'm going to lecture you guys or mansplain
- 12:43you guys, especially for women who believe these sorts of
- 12:46things is because these things are harmful and these things set
- 12:52women back a great deal. And I don't want any of you
- 12:56listening to this podcast now because I'm trying to grow the
- 12:58female listenership based on the podcast.
- 13:00And I have a bunch of you listening now.
- 13:02You know, the ladies from UI who are currently on the service
- 13:05here, the other lady from University of Port Harcourt,
- 13:11Miss Oma in, I think she's in the new goo, who again, you
- 13:17know, some young ladies here and there who've reached out to me
- 13:20one-on-one. And you know, we chat every now
- 13:22and then and they listen to the show.
- 13:24I don't want any of you, my sisters, my cousins, my, I don't
- 13:32want any of you carrying this baggage in your head.
- 13:34Please. The problem with your business,
- 13:37there's no lack of feminine aura or feminine energy or primal sex
- 13:41appeal or charm. So if you want BBL, it's good.
- 13:44Go ahead and do it if you have the money.
- 13:46If you want feminine aura, fine, go ahead, go and do it.
- 13:50If you want feminine energy, whatever that means, go and do
- 13:53it. If you want to be charming, you
- 13:54think that'll make you happier, Oh, by all means, go ahead and
- 13:56do it. But don't think that this is the
- 13:58thing that's going to solve your problem in business.
- 14:02And anyway, let me stop with the rat.
- 14:05We'll continue this conversation tomorrow and we're going to now
- 14:10examine in detail the things that you should look for when
- 14:13you are hiring a female sales Rep, when you are hiring a
- 14:16female customer service Rep, when you are hiring a female
- 14:20front desk officer. Maybe we might also look for
- 14:23things for female TE and female PA.
- 14:28Oh, by the way, define these terms.
- 14:30These terms are, I can't define these terms.
- 14:33It's not my area of specialty. You know, feminine aura,
- 14:35feminine energy, primal sex abuse, and then charm.
- 14:40I can't define them, so I'm not even going to bother trying.
- 14:43Although we had some interesting conversations trying to define
- 14:45these things. Anyway, let me just leave it at
- 14:50that. But summary, these things are
- 14:53good. All well and good, they're
- 14:56great, but they're not great for business roles and business
- 15:02contexts that are focused on customer facing scenarios.
- 15:08Let us not use feminine aura, feminine energy, primal sex
- 15:11appeal and charm to induce a sale.
- 15:14Because if you induce a sale once, you will not be able to
- 15:19induce a sale and get a repeat customer over and over and over
- 15:22again. It's hard.
- 15:25I'm trying to keep it clean here, keep it PG, but you can't
- 15:29read in between the lines. You are able to get him to buy
- 15:32once because of aura, feminine energy, primal sex appeal and
- 15:35charm. Now let's think about it.
- 15:39How do you think you're going to induce a second sale and the 3rd
- 15:43and the 4th and the 5th and the 6th?
- 15:46How do you think you're going to induce it?
- 15:49Anyway, let me leave you there before I end up saying something
- 15:50that is of kilter. So tomorrow we're going to go
- 15:53into the specifics. What do you need in a female
- 15:55customer service Rep, in a female customer service person,
- 15:58female sales person, female front desk person?
- 16:01And then again, let me cap off this episode.
- 16:03The reason why I'm talking about women now is because that was
- 16:09the question that I was asked. OK, So I'm not trying to stay in
- 16:13any trouble here. I was just asked a question was
- 16:16an interesting conversation. I figured, let me come here and
- 16:19educate some of you in case they're a bunch of you here,
- 16:22some of my sisters, some of my aunties, some of my cousins,
- 16:26some of our friends, some of our colleagues who have these sorts
- 16:29of ideas. Let me just let's just have the
- 16:32conversation that as far as business is concerned and as far
- 16:35as sales and customer facing rules is concerned, you guys are
- 16:39looking at the wrong thing. Yeah.
- 16:43So that's it for today. So remember if you'd love to
- 16:45connect with me and explore opportunities, call me
- 16:4808064662140 or WhatsApp me on the same number.
- 16:53The country code is lost 234 for those of you who are not
- 16:56Nigerian. And if you'd love to connect
- 16:58with me on social media, then collect with me on LinkedIn
- 17:01because that's where I spend most of my time.
- 17:03If you look for me on the other socials, then I'll probably
- 17:05respond to you maybe next month. But you check me out on
- 17:09LinkedIn, you will hear from me pretty soon.
- 17:13And yes, it is my phone number. And yes, I am the one who
- 17:16answers the phone call. And yes, I'm the one who
- 17:18responds to the messages. I have to point this out because
- 17:21there's a lady who reached out a couple of days ago and she was
- 17:24surprised, OK, I didn't write her name down.
- 17:26That's why I'm not giving her a shout out now.
- 17:28You know, she was surprised that I was the one who was with the
- 17:30phone. It's me.
- 17:31It's not APA yet. When I become a genuine big boy
- 17:36and I have too many speaking opportunities and too many
- 17:38clients and too many whatever, yeah, then it won't be me on the
- 17:40phone. But for now, it's me.
- 17:42So take advantage of that. Reach out, say hello.
- 17:46If you have a question, ask a question, let's chat.
- 17:49I like to know the listeners of the show.
- 17:51It helps to influence and inform the things that we talk about
- 17:56over here on the podcast. So thanks for your time and
- 17:58attention and I will catch you guys tomorrow.