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131. Vaginal Health 101: UTI’s, Hormones & holistic healing with naturopath Tash Miers · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, You're welcome back to She Rises with acshally
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Speaker 1: in Tiana. We have a very special guest today. It's
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Speaker 1: my nature Path.
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Speaker 3: So excited.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hash.
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Speaker 1: Thank you a little bit about yourself. Are you from?
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Speaker 1: How did you get into the work that you're doing?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I am living in northern New South Wales,
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Speaker 3: just out of the Gold Coast. I have a fully
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Speaker 3: online clinic. I predominantly treat women. I just find we
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Speaker 3: are so fascinating. We have such an intricate kind of
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Speaker 3: hormonal cascade that occurs so deep. Diving into a woman's
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Speaker 3: body is so I don't discriminate it. Do treat men?
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Speaker 1: Yes, say you're treating Steve at the moment, Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: More in a capacity I treat men with when it
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Speaker 3: comes to fertility, because you know, they're fifty percent of
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Speaker 3: the conception of journey, and a lot of emphasis is
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Speaker 3: put on the female, right, the male is often forgotten.
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Speaker 3: So I do treat the male in that sense quite
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Speaker 3: a bit, and children as well. I love treating women
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Speaker 3: just because, Yeah, we're so fascinating. And I guess my
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Speaker 3: journey into nootropathy started through my own health struggles, and
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Speaker 3: I guess this is like a lot of netchpaths actually
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Speaker 3: I speak to I had kind of persistent gut issues
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Speaker 3: and some fertility issues myself and worked with a natch
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Speaker 3: path and just had such great results. I was like,
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Speaker 3: I want to do that. Ye. Yeah, so I started
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Speaker 3: my journey into neutropathy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And then I had two kids throughout my degree and
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Speaker 3: that really opened my eyes to fertility and that space.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, so interesting.
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Speaker 2: That must be so rewarding as well going on your
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Speaker 2: own journey of that and then being like, Wow, I
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Speaker 2: know how to help these women through this because you've
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Speaker 2: gone through similar struggles. Is there a common theme that
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Speaker 2: you see that women struggle with on this journey, like
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Speaker 2: when they come to you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I suppose I see a lot of women
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Speaker 3: come to me and they are highly stressed. And often
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Speaker 3: when I question them about stress, it's not necessarily that
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Speaker 3: they feel stressed, but their body is telling them otherwise.
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Speaker 3: You know, psychological stresses, things like the mental load of working,
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Speaker 3: having a business, kids, household, you name it. And then
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Speaker 3: it's environmental stress, so things like toxins, cleaning products, pesticides
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Speaker 3: on the things we can yeah, and then also a
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Speaker 3: physical stress level too. So when you think about exercise
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Speaker 3: and food consumption, are you consuming enough for your energy output?
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Speaker 3: Are you eating before you exercise in the morning, Because women,
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Speaker 3: we need to eat prior to exercise because otherwise that's
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Speaker 3: a huge stress on the body, and that can throw
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Speaker 3: at a hormone before coffee.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now ya, and I've bring both of us with banana,
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Speaker 1: like can you go.
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Speaker 3: So ultimately, all of those stresses combined can throw out
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Speaker 3: a reproductive hormones and you have a flow and affixed
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Speaker 3: to so many other areas like your immune system or
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Speaker 3: your skin health and so many other aspects. But typically
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Speaker 3: when I question a woman, it's like, how do you
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Speaker 3: feel like day to day stress wise, It's like I
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Speaker 3: feel okay, And then we deep dive and it's like, well,
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Speaker 3: actually what.
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Speaker 1: He is saying otherwise, which has been my experience, Like
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Speaker 1: I mean I did come to you for some help
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Speaker 1: of things I thought might be wrong, and we've went
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Speaker 1: through the whole process of getting all my bloods done,
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Speaker 1: which we said this on a TikTok video, which I
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Speaker 1: think everyone needs to know, and you can talk more
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Speaker 1: on it. But it's not just going to your DP
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Speaker 1: and saying, oh, I need a blood test. Like there's
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Speaker 1: different times of the month that you have to get
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Speaker 1: specific testing and even specific times in the day. Could
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Speaker 1: you explain more about that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So for you, actually we got some of your
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Speaker 3: reproductive hormones tested, and the likes of estrogen we want
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Speaker 3: to test on like day two or three of your
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Speaker 3: SYFE cool, so that's when you're bleeding and then you're producer,
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Speaker 3: and we want to taste about seven days post predicted ovulation,
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Speaker 3: and that's going to gauge what that beautiful cascade of
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Speaker 3: hormones is doing throughout the month. If we're just testing
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Speaker 3: reproductive hormones willingly through the month typically not going to
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Speaker 3: really tell us.
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Speaker 2: I never knew that until you told me that, And
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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I've never heard anybody say that before, And.
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Speaker 1: Even now, it's just so cool to actually understand what's
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Speaker 1: going with my body because even little things like I
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Speaker 1: was spotting a week before my period and waking between
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Speaker 1: one and three, and as since I told you this stuff,
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Speaker 1: you were like, Oh, it's because of this, it's there.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm on supplements that I actually need. It's not
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Speaker 1: me just guessing. Even zinc. I was taking zinc and
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Speaker 1: I had too much zinc. Like, it's just so important
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Speaker 1: to go to a natch path that can actually personalize
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Speaker 1: a plan for you and your body. And you asked
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Speaker 1: me too, you were like, how are you feeling? Like
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Speaker 1: I feel pretty good most days, but my body was
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Speaker 1: obviously telling me otherwise it's quite stressed and run down,
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Speaker 1: and with grief and the surgeries I've had, it's like
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Speaker 1: no wonder. So it's been really cool and I'm really excited,
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Speaker 1: you know, over the next three, six, twelve months to
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Speaker 1: actually feel even better than what I do now because
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Speaker 1: I'm supporting my body how it needs to be supported.
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Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, because with you, actually we were seeing not
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Speaker 3: enough produceter and that your cycle and you know, symptoms
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Speaker 3: can be like insomnia, anxiety, depression. It can be different
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Speaker 3: for everyone. So working on that increasing that produceterone, but
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Speaker 3: then also looking at that driver as to why you've
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Speaker 3: got loadstly really important. So cool, So I guess that
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Speaker 3: answers your question. Tis Yeah, that's so common when I
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Speaker 3: see your stress and women and then it fixed their
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Speaker 3: bodies in different ways.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's so interesting as well, because it's one thing to
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Speaker 2: be like, oh no, I can hold this because you know,
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Speaker 2: we're mentally resilient, right, we're like used to it. Get
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Speaker 2: used to the workload and the mental load that you're
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Speaker 2: carrying versus what actually doing this. The testing and like
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Speaker 2: checking what your body's actually doing in terms of hormones,
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Speaker 2: it's very different.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I feel good and this feels fine,
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Speaker 2: and I'm so used to this, or this is nothing
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Speaker 2: in comparison to what I've felt before.
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Speaker 1: But then it's like you work for me, Yeah, your
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Speaker 1: body is like struggling.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And when we're stressed, we're burning through nutrients something crazy.
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Speaker 3: And magnesium is a big one, so we can be
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Speaker 3: supplementing magnesium, but if we're so stress, we're burning through
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Speaker 3: that's so so so quickly and when you're winning the
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Speaker 3: right amount for the amount of stress.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh, even that is such a cool
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Speaker 2: thing to know. And see how I didn't even know that. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is so cool. It's not something that we're taught
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Speaker 2: and not something that is common knowledge or things that
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Speaker 2: they teach you in school, things that young women love
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Speaker 2: at a young age. I feel like there's so much
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Speaker 2: that we don't learn and we have to kind of
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Speaker 2: find our way. It's like being birth for the first time.
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Speaker 2: We like little Bambi, like trying to walk at like,
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Speaker 2: you know, after thirty years old.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, it's just crazy. The reason we want to
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Speaker 1: bring you on today too is to talk about how
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Speaker 1: to have a healthy pussy. Yes, yeah, because it's something
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Speaker 1: once again that we are not taught in school unless
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Speaker 1: you go to a natch path. Like even if you
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Speaker 1: go to a doctor if you have a yused infection
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Speaker 1: or UTI, it's like antibiotics. Antibiotics, Oh, fucks your gut,
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Speaker 1: and then you get the same thing. Like I've got
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Speaker 1: friends that get you two guys every single month and
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Speaker 1: that's their normal, and I'm like, that is not normal,
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Speaker 1: that's not okay. So we've got a bunch of questions
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Speaker 1: to ask, can you go over the different types of infections,
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Speaker 1: because I know there's bv UTIs thrush. Could you talk
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Speaker 1: about the differences between each of those and what causes them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So I'll kind of explain the vaginal microbiome.
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Speaker 1: Yes please.
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Speaker 3: So we've got a bit of context. So it's like
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Speaker 3: a little ecosystem of its own full of like trillions
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Speaker 3: of bacteria, and we have like multiple in our body.
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Speaker 3: We've got like our oral microbiome, mat, gut microbime and
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Speaker 3: they've all got yes specific bacteria and then that make
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Speaker 3: them nice and healthy. Our vagina in particular, we like
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Speaker 3: to see a less diverse range of bacteria, whereas our
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Speaker 3: gut we want it to be really really diverse to
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Speaker 3: be really healthy. Yeah, and yeah, vaginal microbiome we want
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Speaker 3: to be dominated by a specific kind of type of
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Speaker 3: bacteria called electopascillas, and these bacteria are going to secrete
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Speaker 3: chemical com pounds like lactic acid to make it really
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Speaker 3: acidic and like a good environment to be able to
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Speaker 3: be robust and fight off anything that kind of enters
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Speaker 3: that area. Because essentially anything that enters that area, whether
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Speaker 3: it be a penis of finger, a toy libritondoms is
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Speaker 3: going to have some sort of bacteria on it, So
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Speaker 3: we want to be really robust so that we can
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Speaker 3: fight off any pathogens that kind of into them. Now
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Speaker 3: what we see is if it's not robust, if we
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Speaker 3: don't have those beneficial bacteria in high enough numbers, that
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Speaker 3: gives pathogenic bacteria a chance to grow and thrive, and
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Speaker 3: also fungi as well. That's when we see the likes
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Speaker 3: of Candiata. So candida is also quite common if we've
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Speaker 3: got a hormonal imbalanced, so high estrogen versus low progesterone,
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Speaker 3: So these two hormones they kind of sit on a
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Speaker 3: seesaw together. So when progesterone is low, estrogen is typically high,
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Speaker 3: and estrogen produces glycogen which turns into sugar, and fungi
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Speaker 3: feeds off sugar. It's when we're going to see candida
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Speaker 3: and thrush occur. So thrush you'll typically get like an
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Speaker 3: uncomfortable area down there, inflammation, redness, itchy discharge will almost
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Speaker 3: maybe reasonable cottage cheese, and typically that is just yet
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Speaker 3: a fungal overgrowth. But unfortunately, with conventional medicine that can
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Speaker 3: treat the fungal overgrowth fine, but if your hormones are
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Speaker 3: driving it, then you're not treating that kind of factor.
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Speaker 3: So if people are getting thrush every month due to
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Speaker 3: cyclical changes in their minstrual cycle when Eastern fluctuates, they're
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Speaker 3: going to see that reoccurrence of thrush, okay. And then
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Speaker 3: also there can be other components to that in fiction,
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Speaker 3: so it might not just be candida. There might be
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Speaker 3: another pathogen that's involved. And if you're just treating the
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Speaker 3: fungal component, not through the pathogens, then you're gonna keep
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Speaker 3: getting some sort of vaginal infection there.
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Speaker 2: And the pathogen could come from like having sex or
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Speaker 2: like what you mentioned, like with the or like a
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Speaker 2: condom or like something like that.
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Speaker 3: And there's passages in their low level all the time.
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Speaker 3: Like we need that balance of good verse bead. We
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Speaker 3: just need those higher levels of good bacteria. And it's
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Speaker 3: when we have things like antibiotics that wipe out those
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Speaker 3: good ones. They're in that environment for the other ones
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Speaker 3: to kind of grow, and then we have BV and
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Speaker 3: that specterial veginosis.
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Speaker 1: So we've just recently heard of this, like literally the
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Speaker 1: last couple of months. I've never heard of it before.
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Speaker 2: I struggle with this my whole life, like not so
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Speaker 2: much now more. When I was younger, I did like
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Speaker 2: a gut protocol and it like helped with them. But
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Speaker 2: prior to that, from like eighteen to like twenty two,
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Speaker 2: for years struggling.
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Speaker 3: With its actually more common than thrush, but thrush is
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Speaker 3: just kind of more spoken about it. Yeah, they go
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Speaker 3: and the reoccurrence rate of BV is like fifty to
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Speaker 3: eighty percent because it's really hard to treat. You need
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Speaker 3: to treat it properly. Yeah right, yeah, so that's high.
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Speaker 2: It's horrifying and how many women go through this sort
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Speaker 2: of stuff unspoken because they're shameful about it. You get
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Speaker 2: like symptoms or something's different. You notice discharge is different,
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Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, oh my god, like what's happening exactly?
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Speaker 3: And BV is you know, one that can take an
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Speaker 3: emotional toll because there is one particular pathogen that creates
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Speaker 3: a chemical compound that makes that fishy odor. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: it can be that scent. So women that go through this, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I have big empathy for them because you go through
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Speaker 3: it and shame and they try antibiotics to kill it off,
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Speaker 3: yet it's not quite heading the nail on the head
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Speaker 3: and fully eradicating the pathogens involved in that. So it's
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Speaker 3: one particular opportunitist bacteria called Gardenella that creates that fishy smell.
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Speaker 3: But again with BV, it's a component of lots of
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Speaker 3: different pathogens involved in that, and you don't even necessarily
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Speaker 3: have to have that Gardenella one, So you might not
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Speaker 3: even have that fishy odor. It might just be a
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Speaker 3: vaginal in fiction where there's potentially changes in discharge, like
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Speaker 3: a greeny tinge, a grayish tinge, like watery. So it's
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Speaker 3: just kind of noticing differences to what your normal cervical
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Speaker 3: fluid would be. There's even cases of unexplained infertility when
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Speaker 3: there's BV involved. Oh really, wow, Yeah, so when we
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Speaker 3: look at unexplained infertility, there's always an explanation. Yeah, but
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Speaker 3: it's typically just who you're seeing, you know, that kind
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Speaker 3: of out of this scope of practice with what they
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Speaker 3: can kind of test for for sure. Yeah, So I
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Speaker 3: would definitely recommend that if you're in that position where
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Speaker 3: you've looked at hormones and other things involved, look at
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Speaker 3: your vaginal microbime and it could even be.
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Speaker 1: Never heard anyone say that, Wow, that's so cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, unexplained fertility and vaginal and
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Speaker 3: fiction is very common.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild, So discharge, fishy odor? Is any other
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Speaker 1: symptoms of BV? Is it itchy like thrush? Or is
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Speaker 1: it can get itchy?
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Speaker 3: Yeahs or redness or whatever. But you can also be
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Speaker 3: completely asymptomatic, right, such as life changes, okay.
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Speaker 1: Discomfort with sex?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if someone's got BV, what do you recommend?
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Speaker 3: It would be a matter of looking at the vaginal
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Speaker 3: microbiome as a whole. I would recommend if you're someone
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Speaker 3: that's getting reoccurring BV, and this can be against cyclical
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Speaker 3: due to hormonal changes. It can also be triggered when
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Speaker 3: you have ejeculatory six because seemen it's alkalizing and it
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Speaker 3: can make those bacteria thrive six. You might notice that
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Speaker 3: smell will come back. If you're someone in that category
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Speaker 3: with recurrent I would recommend testing and understanding what's going
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Speaker 3: on and doing a treatment protocol specific to those bacteria.
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Speaker 3: So you could also be a fungal component. And like
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Speaker 3: I said, the recurrence rate of BV is so high and.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting.
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Speaker 2: So I had that with my very first partner. We
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Speaker 2: would together for about three and a half years, and
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Speaker 2: I got constant, constant bv or UTIs and things like
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Speaker 2: that with him, and it was NonStop. Because it was
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Speaker 2: so frequent, I was on antibiotics all the time, and
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Speaker 2: there was before I stopped taking antibiotics and just didn't
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Speaker 2: go down that path anymore. But I probably took about
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Speaker 2: like eight cycles of antibiotics and after six weeks having
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Speaker 2: to go back and revisit that because it was so frequent,
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Speaker 2: and I remember experience like full team I guys, but
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Speaker 2: like fully experiencing that like a change in scent and
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Speaker 2: smell and a moment that we would have sex or
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Speaker 2: if we did have ejaculatory sex that would happen for me.
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Speaker 2: So I just I just was like, nope, I'm never
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Speaker 2: doing that again because it impacts my body in that way.
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Speaker 2: And I was too young to even know what understand
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Speaker 2: any of those things, and I honestly thought that something
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Speaker 2: was wrong with me. It makes you so self conscious
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Speaker 2: because every single time I went to go have sex
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Speaker 2: with my partner, I felt like something was wrong with me.
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Speaker 2: I was like, something about my body is broken, because
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Speaker 2: this is supposed to be something that I can do
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Speaker 2: frequently and regularly, and then going through that, I was like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, like, actually something is broken.
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Speaker 1: Body sex now. I was like yeah, and.
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Speaker 2: Then it just yeah, it got worse, and then once
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Speaker 2: we broke up, I was fine, Yeah, I don't know
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Speaker 2: why that happens.
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Speaker 3: There can also be like an energitic component to vagile
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Speaker 3: and fiction to that. We call it like metaphysical components,
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Speaker 3: where your emotional and like mental load or stress with
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Speaker 3: that partner can create a physical symptom of like an
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Speaker 3: in fiction. So it's like your body, whether it be
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Speaker 3: some conscious or conscious Yeah, and it can be a
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Speaker 3: reaction to your body, not necessarily being an alignment with it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love this conversation. I love this conversation because
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Speaker 2: that relationship wasn't healthy. It wasn't good for my mental health,
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Speaker 2: wasn't good for me. It was good for your puss.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: And I used to tell myself that my body would
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Speaker 2: reject him, and so every single time I was having
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Speaker 2: sex with him was like my body would reject him.
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Speaker 2: And then after no longer being together anymore, I never
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Speaker 2: had any problems, not never, but it wasn't what I had, yeah,
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Speaker 2: which I found so wild because I never went and
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Speaker 2: did any testing I wish I had. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I even had my own personal experience with b
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Speaker 3: the postpardon after having children. Yeah, I spent like five
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Speaker 3: years either pregnant or bristfeeding. Wow, your two little girls,
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Speaker 3: I just stop breastfeeding, I think. And my hormones were
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Speaker 3: going through major shifts. And this impacts your vaginal microbirement,
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Speaker 3: it's environment, and it's susceptibility to infection.
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Speaker 1: I could imagine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got BV and Yeah, even being in
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Speaker 3: the industry and being with my partner for ten years
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Speaker 3: and stuff, I still had that emotional aspect, and of course,
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Speaker 3: you know, it just gave me so much more empathy
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Speaker 3: to my clients moving forward. I'm educated, but I'm like, gosh,
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Speaker 3: if you're not going through this, it's a lot. So
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Speaker 3: what I did was I treated it with like herbal kissing.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, is this like Chinese herbs
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Speaker 1: or so it's like little capsules with herbs.
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Speaker 3: In it you just stick up there. Wow, that's so cool. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: put on some period, Undea, it's amazing. But I wasn't
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Speaker 3: actually treating the whole picture. I wasn't looking at my hormones.
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Speaker 3: So it treated it for quite some time, and then
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Speaker 3: my hormones made it kind of come back a few
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Speaker 3: months later, and I was like, oh, I should have
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Speaker 3: known better, looked at it from a holistic approach, and
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Speaker 3: then I went and sorted out my hormones conjunction with
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Speaker 3: doing the herbal pisseries, and that sorted it out.
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Speaker 1: Oh so that's BEV and thrush. So I didn't ask you,
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Speaker 1: how do you treat that? Can you do that through natural?
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Speaker 3: Yes? Ways as you can? Yeah, absolutely, so it would
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Speaker 3: depend if there is just a fungal carrier, so just
17:28
Speaker 3: a candy out, you can treat that with pisseries as well.
17:31
Speaker 3: And you know, say, if you're someone that has that
17:34
Speaker 3: hormonal component so high estrogen, like registrate, you want to
17:37
Speaker 3: treat the driver of that. So that's that, and then
17:39
Speaker 3: you can go in with treating that naturally as well.
17:43
Speaker 1: Is it like creams? Is it herbal tonics?
17:45
Speaker 3: Herbal toonics? Yeah? Really great for regulating hormones and then
17:49
Speaker 3: other pits and pieces like nutrients. Yeah, capsules and very
17:53
Speaker 3: dependent on the person. Yeah.
17:54
Speaker 1: Okay, because I've only had thrush twice, I'd be very lucky.
17:57
Speaker 1: I've never had BV. I think I've had one uti,
17:59
Speaker 1: but I've had thrush twice. One was like when I
18:01
Speaker 1: was fifteen, and then one recently, and I was like,
18:04
Speaker 1: oh my freaked out, My god, I'm so itchy. I
18:07
Speaker 1: feel like, get a pineapple downtime, babe. I think I've
18:11
Speaker 1: got something. But then like when I unpacked wow, which
18:14
Speaker 1: I spoke to you about too, Like Steve and I
18:16
Speaker 1: were having so much sex, and I also love that.
18:19
Speaker 1: I love thatmation, but I started wearing I always wear
18:22
Speaker 1: bamboo underwear and I swear by them, but I was
18:25
Speaker 1: wearing these lacey, cute underwear that were not breathable, and
18:28
Speaker 1: like sexting with Steve at work or whatever, and I
18:30
Speaker 1: think we spoke about it created a moist environment. And
18:34
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, wonder. I did go to the chemists
18:36
Speaker 1: before I spoke to you about it, and I got
18:38
Speaker 1: just like a cream and a capsule, and then you
18:40
Speaker 1: told me to ask chat Toby Tea. It was like
18:42
Speaker 1: bathe and apple sided vinegar and baking soda.
18:44
Speaker 3: I think you can do. That doesn't help you, I
18:47
Speaker 3: re can well, what you would have got would have
18:49
Speaker 3: been the anti fungals. Yeah, I presume yours was just
18:52
Speaker 3: fungle driven. Yeah, and it's because they're high estrogen my hormone.
18:56
Speaker 2: Yes.
18:57
Speaker 3: And then also the trigger of the underwear synthetic fibers
19:01
Speaker 3: and lots of sex yeah yeah, yeah, totally yep, premiere
19:05
Speaker 3: having ejeculatory six, vocalizing, yeah, combination of it all. Yeah.
19:10
Speaker 3: But treating that with the anti fungals is fine because
19:13
Speaker 3: now we're going to the root cause and addressing your Hormones'.
19:15
Speaker 1: True that again yeah yeah okay. And then so there's
19:20
Speaker 1: those and then there's utia.
19:22
Speaker 3: So ut eyes are and in fiction in the urinary tract. However,
19:27
Speaker 3: the urinary tract and the vagina are really close, and
19:30
Speaker 3: what can happen is bacteria from the vagina can travel
19:34
Speaker 3: up the arethra into the urinary tract. So things like E.
19:38
Speaker 3: Coli and things typically what drive ut eyes. But in
19:42
Speaker 3: saying that, there's other pathogens that drive utiys. So I've
19:46
Speaker 3: seen cases where women have had really chronic uti symptoms,
19:51
Speaker 3: the burning.
19:52
Speaker 1: Needing to pee, but not actually pea.
19:54
Speaker 3: Yeap, just super uncomfortable. They've gone to keep chicks and
19:57
Speaker 3: they don't have your stock standard E. Coli. So they're like, oh, no, you're.
20:01
Speaker 1: Fine, You're fine. Yeah.
20:03
Speaker 2: I've had that once before, I would have been eighteen thine.
20:05
Speaker 2: It's the most uncomfortable feelings. They put a glass, cold
20:08
Speaker 2: glass in between my legs to try to like soothe
20:10
Speaker 2: the desire. Yeah, things you try to do, right. Yeah.
20:14
Speaker 3: And then also with ut eyes, there are some cases
20:17
Speaker 3: where the pathogen gets so embedded on the wall of
20:21
Speaker 3: the urine retract and the likes of antibiotics and anti
20:26
Speaker 3: microbials they're just not enough to kill them off.
20:29
Speaker 1: Wow.
20:30
Speaker 3: So you need like really strong medicines to disrupt that
20:34
Speaker 3: biofilm around it. It's like encasing on them, break that
20:38
Speaker 3: down to then kill it off.
20:39
Speaker 1: Wow.
20:40
Speaker 3: So there's like herbs and nutrients that we used to
20:42
Speaker 3: do that in like severe cases. Yeah.
20:44
Speaker 1: I've got a little girl, she's three. You've got two
20:46
Speaker 1: little girls, like I've heard they can get them. Is
20:49
Speaker 1: it anyways, parents that we can prevent that because imagine,
20:51
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyler could take a herbal tonic. I
20:53
Speaker 1: gues say if she wants to get that, like, how
20:55
Speaker 1: do I prevent it? And then if she does get it,
20:56
Speaker 1: how I help treat her?
20:58
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I guess with little girls, Yeah, it's tricky
21:02
Speaker 3: because hygiene and stuff like at school and stuff. I
21:06
Speaker 3: know that my daughter comes home sometimes and it's like, oh,
21:09
Speaker 3: it hasn't wiped properly. Yeah, straight in the bath kind of,
21:12
Speaker 3: they like soak everything, get out of those clothes. But
21:15
Speaker 3: little girls vaginas are actually quite different to women with yeah,
21:20
Speaker 3: because when they're little, we have like a very diverse
21:24
Speaker 3: range of bacteria and this means we're not getting like
21:27
Speaker 3: discharge and things. And it's not until a girl hits
21:30
Speaker 3: puberty when we're seeing the increase in estrogen that wakes
21:33
Speaker 3: everything up.
21:34
Speaker 1: So it's not likely they'll get UTIs.
21:36
Speaker 3: It can occur, and it's normally like the holding in
21:40
Speaker 3: wi or not not excreting it properly, and it can
21:43
Speaker 3: kind of fister in there if they've got a little
21:45
Speaker 3: bit left in there. There's hygiene things, you know, wiping
21:48
Speaker 3: back to front, getting the collie in there. But yeah,
21:51
Speaker 3: it can be tricky to treat little ones. And they're
21:54
Speaker 3: also prone to you know, vaginal irritation and things as well,
21:58
Speaker 3: so barrier creams and stuff can be really beneficial. Yeah, Okay,
22:02
Speaker 3: if little girls also have itchy areas, while it can
22:05
Speaker 3: also be due to pinworm, so pinworm's common in kids.
22:10
Speaker 3: If kids have got itchy bums, it's likely they've got pinworms.
22:15
Speaker 3: They can travel to a little girl's vagina. Oh yeah,
22:19
Speaker 3: so it's really common in like daycare schools because kids
22:22
Speaker 3: are touching everything and touching their faces.
22:25
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's really I've never heard of this.
22:29
Speaker 3: Have you needed to give your kids like the chocolates?
22:33
Speaker 1: I do do that. So that's is that pinworms?
22:36
Speaker 3: Right?
22:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, My mum's always just giving me those little chocolates.
22:38
Speaker 1: So I give it to my kids like every school holidays,
22:41
Speaker 1: little little squares. Yeah, yeah, get paranoid.
22:43
Speaker 3: Overdo it because you don't want their body to build
22:46
Speaker 3: up resistance to their medication. Do it if they've got
22:50
Speaker 3: symptoms of like genus and whatnot. Okay, And then also
22:54
Speaker 3: it can be quite tricky to treat in little ones
22:56
Speaker 3: because the pinworms lay eggs in your house. Gross, wash
23:01
Speaker 3: all your sheets and I would even go in with
23:04
Speaker 3: like tonic for the little ones. Therese herbs that aren't
23:07
Speaker 3: as bad as the ones that you based and like
23:13
Speaker 3: a more sugary content. Yeah, so for little kids are
23:16
Speaker 3: really great.
23:16
Speaker 1: Oh that's good to know. It might be good for you.
23:18
Speaker 3: I know.
23:19
Speaker 1: I made me a sleep tonic and Oh wow. If
23:22
Speaker 1: you follow my snapchat, you would have seen the drama
23:24
Speaker 1: of me trying to sollow it. Oh I missed the
23:26
Speaker 1: oh snapchat, I'm like sobraught and unfiltered. I was it
23:31
Speaker 1: was funny, so funny. Bamboo underwear, Can we talk about
23:35
Speaker 1: that because it makes all the difference. I'm trying to
23:37
Speaker 1: let her covert her. Yes, they're more expensive, but can
23:40
Speaker 1: you talk about why this is so important?
23:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we we are down there is important
23:45
Speaker 3: because it ensures like how it breathes down there. Yeah,
23:49
Speaker 3: so bamboo, organic bamboo, for instance, is really moisture wicking,
23:53
Speaker 3: so it draws out any moisture from the area we are.
23:56
Speaker 3: Synthetic fabrics kind of leave that moisture in there, and.
23:59
Speaker 1: It creates a breeding ground for infection.
24:01
Speaker 3: Hey yeah, yeah, organic bamboo and organic are really great
24:06
Speaker 3: options to wear down there, and they also again hold
24:10
Speaker 3: an energitic kind of frequency of like a really grounding
24:14
Speaker 3: feeling versus your synthetic fabrics. Like you know when you
24:17
Speaker 3: look at physics, everything has energy for right, Yeah, so
24:20
Speaker 3: it's good in a sense of like, yeah, being antibacterial
24:23
Speaker 3: into microbial moisture wicking beneficial if you're going to be
24:26
Speaker 3: wearing like gym types. Yeah that synthetical and synthetic and types.
24:30
Speaker 1: Can't breathe, Yeah, breeze. The week that I didn't wear bamboo, honestly,
24:34
Speaker 1: like this Snday after work, I just I don't feel
24:36
Speaker 1: as fresh. I felt like I just need to go
24:38
Speaker 1: home and shouts. It sounds gross. But when I wear bamboo,
24:40
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just gonna out of shower. I
24:42
Speaker 1: feel fresh all day, and that's what we want. Yeah
24:44
Speaker 1: fresh ye never anything off like, it just feels fresh.
24:49
Speaker 1: I just can't not wear them now. Yeah, so important.
24:53
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I've got some girlfriends that they have
24:55
Speaker 1: an infection every other month, and then there's someone like
24:57
Speaker 1: me who has two and a whole thirty six years
24:59
Speaker 1: of living. Do you think some women are just more
25:01
Speaker 1: prone to getting infections? Does it relate back to your
25:04
Speaker 1: gut health or Yeah.
25:05
Speaker 3: It can relate back to a lot of things, like
25:07
Speaker 3: your immune system, your gut health. And you know your
25:10
Speaker 3: immune system about seventy percent lives within your gut healthy
25:14
Speaker 3: or gut health. You've got poor immune system, right, and
25:17
Speaker 3: then throwing hormonal imbalances that are going to drive these conditions.
25:21
Speaker 3: Say if you're also prone to sicknesses because you've got
25:24
Speaker 3: this low immunity. Yeah, taking ittibiotics, and that's why I think.
25:27
Speaker 1: It's a flow on a cycle.
25:29
Speaker 3: Yeah. But yeah, like you said, it's a flow on
25:31
Speaker 3: effect and we can go around in these big loops
25:33
Speaker 3: consistently of heavy issues.
25:36
Speaker 1: And then what about different types of discharge? Once again,
25:39
Speaker 1: I wish this was spoke about in school, and I
25:41
Speaker 1: still I am super educated around it. But different times
25:44
Speaker 1: in our cycle, there's going to be different types of discharge. Hey,
25:47
Speaker 1: so what do we look out for, what's normal not normal?
25:49
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I definitely wish that we will talk more
25:52
Speaker 3: in school about this. Actually, looking back, the vaginal microbomes
25:55
Speaker 3: only really been studied in the last twenty years, so
25:58
Speaker 3: at school they didn't really know much about it at all. Yeah,
26:02
Speaker 3: I should have known more about our cycles and you know,
26:05
Speaker 3: the changes in mucus or discharge. And so we have
26:10
Speaker 3: like two main phases of our minstrual cycle. The first
26:12
Speaker 3: half is our follicular phase and then the second half
26:15
Speaker 3: is our luteal phase. So at the start when we
26:19
Speaker 3: are bleeding is right at the start of a follicular phase,
26:22
Speaker 3: and this is when a hormones are at the lowest
26:24
Speaker 3: and this is when bleeding occurs, so we're not necessarily
26:27
Speaker 3: going to see discharge at this point. We're going to
26:28
Speaker 3: see blood. And it's okay to have like a metalloche
26:32
Speaker 3: kind of smell down there when we've got the blood loss,
26:34
Speaker 3: because that's the smell of the blood. And then as
26:37
Speaker 3: we move through to after period, it can still be
26:40
Speaker 3: a little bit dry just after your period, or a
26:42
Speaker 3: little bit tacky. And then we move into the preovulatory.
26:46
Speaker 1: Phase, best age of the month, high energy, feel great, Yeah,
26:52
Speaker 1: We've talking about this lot lately.
26:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we can see a more creamier consistency, almost
26:58
Speaker 3: like lotion like. And then as you move into ovulation,
27:02
Speaker 3: we want to see that clear, stretchy, real healthy cervical
27:06
Speaker 3: mucus and this is what protects sperm and this is
27:09
Speaker 3: going to increase your chances of conception.
27:12
Speaker 2: Wow.
27:13
Speaker 3: So if you don't have this beautiful, stretchy, clear cervical mucus,
27:16
Speaker 3: it's going to be way harder for the sperm to
27:18
Speaker 3: survive and they're probably going to be killed off in
27:20
Speaker 3: eur acidic vaginal environment. Woo. Yeah. And then as we
27:25
Speaker 3: move into the next phase, which is just after population,
27:29
Speaker 3: so postovulation, we can see tachi cloudy, maybe even a
27:34
Speaker 3: slight yellow tinge, and then after that it can be
27:38
Speaker 3: kind of tachy cloudy before we move back into menstruation again.
27:42
Speaker 3: And it's kind of understanding your body and what's your
27:46
Speaker 3: normal each month because everyone is going to kind of
27:48
Speaker 3: different yeah, and then noticing changes in those components each month.
27:54
Speaker 3: So say, if you lack that cervical mucus, it could
27:57
Speaker 3: be a sign of a hormonal imbalance, but it could
27:59
Speaker 3: be a sign of an underlying vaginal in fiction, that's
28:02
Speaker 3: kind of asymptomatic, just lacking that beautiful cervical mucus. So
28:07
Speaker 3: BV can do that. If you have that one that
28:09
Speaker 3: the pathogen that creates the fishy smell, maybe you've got
28:12
Speaker 3: the other pathogens that are actually drying up that cervical mucus.
28:16
Speaker 1: You go yeah.
28:17
Speaker 3: And then obviously as we move through different phases of
28:20
Speaker 3: our life, moving into puberty, we're seeing that's when the
28:24
Speaker 3: discharge in cervical mucus kind of starts. Then when we
28:28
Speaker 3: move into pregnancy, we can see a lot of changes
28:31
Speaker 3: to our civical mucus. It can be a lot more
28:33
Speaker 3: because we've got hormonal shifts postpardum, we can see huge
28:37
Speaker 3: shifts and like I mentioned, that's when I got BV
28:40
Speaker 3: because of these hormonal shifts and being more susceptible to infections.
28:44
Speaker 3: We can almost see when women breastfeed too. They can
28:47
Speaker 3: almost have the ning of the vaginal tissues irritation due
28:51
Speaker 3: to low estrogen when you're breastfeeding, and then as a
28:54
Speaker 3: flow and effect not enough like to pacillous and not
28:57
Speaker 3: acidic enough. And then we have the same kind of
29:00
Speaker 3: thing happen as we move into perimenopause and menopause is
29:04
Speaker 3: estrogen drop. We see a decrease in electo piscillus in
29:08
Speaker 3: the vagina become more dry typically and more uncomfortable.
29:11
Speaker 2: So yeah, out of curiosity without let's say, if somebody
29:15
Speaker 2: wasn't to go get tested or wasn't able to go
29:17
Speaker 2: down that path right now, is there something just as
29:19
Speaker 2: like any supplements or anything like that for vaginal health
29:22
Speaker 2: that you would recommend, just as like a baseline to
29:24
Speaker 2: take for like a you should absolutely be taking this,
29:27
Speaker 2: like eating pineapple?
29:28
Speaker 3: Is that?
29:30
Speaker 1: Or cranberry? Yeah?
29:32
Speaker 3: Or cranberry is actually really good for UTIs.
29:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that, Should I cranbery juice.
29:36
Speaker 3: Yep or like cranber capsules.
29:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky because each case is different for sure.
29:43
Speaker 1: It's not a one size fits all. Yeah.
29:45
Speaker 3: But if you are opting to go and get like
29:48
Speaker 3: antibiotics to treat bv for instance, definitely repopulating the area
29:53
Speaker 3: with beneficial bacteria, and I would do that vias to
29:56
Speaker 3: pository like putting it up there.
29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:58
Speaker 3: So there's a really incredible, relatively new supplement that is
30:03
Speaker 3: specifically for that, and it called Amelia V spot probotic,
30:08
Speaker 3: and you put it up there to support that beneficial
30:11
Speaker 3: growth of bacteria. But in saying that, also looking at
30:15
Speaker 3: all of your environmental factors and triggers and things like
30:18
Speaker 3: we said the bamboo underwear also diet. We want to
30:22
Speaker 3: be eating enough fiber to feed the beneficial beneficial bacteria.
30:26
Speaker 1: Not being an active wear all day every day. Yeah,
30:29
Speaker 1: if you can clothing morning sweat show, changing out of gin.
30:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you're prone to them, really looking at
30:36
Speaker 3: the triggers. But I feel like if you are getting
30:39
Speaker 3: really recurrent bouts of vaginal and fictions, it would be
30:43
Speaker 3: really important to test, not guess. If you have the
30:48
Speaker 3: means to purchase a test, they are relatively expensive at
30:52
Speaker 3: about two hundred and thirty dollars for memory, but you're
30:56
Speaker 3: actually saving yourself in the long run, right with being
30:59
Speaker 3: able to treat specifically and not go back and forth
31:01
Speaker 3: with all these band aid.
31:04
Speaker 2: You're sure and feeling comfortable when you're having sex with
31:06
Speaker 2: your partner, not having to worry, not feeling self conscious,
31:08
Speaker 2: but not going oh my god, like is.
31:10
Speaker 1: There going to be a scent.
31:11
Speaker 3: You can also teste your pH of your vagina. There's
31:15
Speaker 3: strips so you can test the environment down there. So
31:18
Speaker 3: your vaginal p H should sit between about three point
31:21
Speaker 3: five and four point five, so if it is out,
31:24
Speaker 3: if it's too high, it's going to be too alkalizing.
31:27
Speaker 3: So that's an environment where pathogens can thrive. So you
31:29
Speaker 3: want to make that more acidic flight increasing those beneficial bacteria.
31:33
Speaker 1: What do you mean a stick? Like, how do you
31:35
Speaker 1: put a stick up there?
31:36
Speaker 3: It is it's just like a tiny little like paper
31:39
Speaker 3: kind of stick that you kind of just white on. Oh,
31:42
Speaker 3: I say, China, or like the cervical mucus around that area. Yeah,
31:46
Speaker 3: And I would suggest doing it when you're symptomatic. If
31:49
Speaker 3: you are someone that has symptoms, and then you can
31:51
Speaker 3: kind of gauge what's going to be interesting.
31:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we talk about sex too.
32:00
Speaker 3: Then?
32:00
Speaker 1: Too much sex upset your vagina?
32:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can. But if we have that really robust environment,
32:08
Speaker 3: then we should be able to combat the likes of semen.
32:12
Speaker 3: That's going to make that environment alkalizing. If that environment
32:16
Speaker 3: is slightly out, when we've got that underlying BV and
32:18
Speaker 3: we get that semen in there and it's going to
32:20
Speaker 3: exacerbate the growth, is when it can irritate the vagina.
32:24
Speaker 3: Of course, like friction and stuff differently can make micro
32:27
Speaker 3: tears and stuff as well. But if you do have
32:29
Speaker 3: that robust environment, you should be okay. There's also some
32:32
Speaker 3: really great like pH friendly washes that you can use
32:37
Speaker 3: after having sex. You definitely don't want to put soaps
32:40
Speaker 3: up there and error chemicals and stuff because it's self cleaning.
32:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you can put anything there. Like, do
32:45
Speaker 1: you have brands you recommend?
32:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one brand that I really like. It's called
32:49
Speaker 3: color Rex. It'slre X and they have a wash and
32:54
Speaker 3: a cream. So if you're someone that's having a lot
32:57
Speaker 3: of six, that could be a great option to just
32:59
Speaker 3: kind of like wash down there after six to make
33:01
Speaker 3: sure everything's out.
33:02
Speaker 1: Always peeing after say do you pee before and after
33:05
Speaker 1: what suit? Because I hear different things with that.
33:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd pee after six. I mean if you need
33:09
Speaker 3: to go pry, yeah you want to, yeah, go prior
33:11
Speaker 3: as well, but yeah, just making sure that you're getting
33:14
Speaker 3: everything out of that after having a quick shower. And yeah,
33:16
Speaker 3: like laying in that semen.
33:17
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, just for back flashbacks and I was
33:19
Speaker 1: trying to for bring mental and or literally lay there
33:21
Speaker 1: with my legs up in the air like that getting
33:23
Speaker 1: me consers. Oh my goodness.
33:28
Speaker 3: So good.
33:28
Speaker 1: And same with condoms and lubricants, like I'm sure a
33:32
Speaker 1: lot of people listening. I don't use condoms personally. We
33:34
Speaker 1: use like a natural coconut oil based loom and I
33:36
Speaker 1: have no problems with that. But the times I have
33:38
Speaker 1: used flavored lube or you know, fans glube, oh I
33:42
Speaker 1: get so irritation tasty, it smells yummy. It's just a
33:46
Speaker 1: no go for me. So can you talk about.
33:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, putting those harsh chemicals, yeah, yeah, disrupting that environment.
33:54
Speaker 3: I would definitely opt for yet a natural either water
33:58
Speaker 3: based or oil based lubri out. Sometimes if you're vaginal
34:02
Speaker 3: microbime isn't quite robust as it should be. Oil based
34:05
Speaker 3: lubricants like a coconut oil can also affect it because
34:09
Speaker 3: they can almost trap bacteria in that environment and create
34:12
Speaker 3: that growth. Yeah, but your typical person should be able
34:15
Speaker 3: to deal with that oil based Yeah, mine, I personally
34:18
Speaker 3: use a water based one just because I prefer it.
34:21
Speaker 3: It's a brand called Yes. But yeah, just being mindful.
34:23
Speaker 3: Same with condoms. People can be really sensitive to latex
34:26
Speaker 3: and fragrances.
34:27
Speaker 1: Is there natural condoms?
34:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are latex free ones. I'm not sure if
34:30
Speaker 3: Brandy you know, I'm not someone that uses condoms. Yeah,
34:34
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, just being mindful of what you use
34:36
Speaker 3: down there is super important because it can create Yeah.
34:39
Speaker 1: So interesting.
34:40
Speaker 2: Hey, there's so many little factors that can contribute to
34:43
Speaker 2: changes down there.
34:44
Speaker 1: It's so important to know that that it's not like
34:46
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you.
34:48
Speaker 2: Nothing is bad unless you're obviously experiencing those UTIs and
34:51
Speaker 2: those infections to get them looked at. But it's cool
34:53
Speaker 2: to be aware of this so that you can go, Okay, well,
34:56
Speaker 2: am I doing all of these things to make sure
34:58
Speaker 2: they'm ticking off the list.
34:59
Speaker 1: You know, it is so much more sensitive to men
35:01
Speaker 1: because I feel like I can't use a flavored lube
35:03
Speaker 1: on myself, but like on Steve it's completely and they
35:05
Speaker 1: can wash themself with so completely fine, But like women
35:08
Speaker 1: just can't do that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just intricate. Yeah, I mean they have a
35:13
Speaker 3: twenty four hour hormonal cascade while still peaks at a
35:17
Speaker 3: certain time every day, and they can do the same
35:18
Speaker 3: shit every day, whereas we have that beautiful roughly thirty
35:22
Speaker 3: day hormonal cascade and we need to be doing different
35:25
Speaker 3: things on different days of cycle. Just yeah, hormonally really sensitive.
35:30
Speaker 1: So it's a lot, yeah, is it funny.
35:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we're talking about supporting a vaginal microbiome as
35:38
Speaker 3: a whole, it would be looking at diet increasing fiber intake.
35:44
Speaker 1: Fiber is so important. I didn't realize until I met you.
35:47
Speaker 1: It is so important hormonal health. But no one talks
35:51
Speaker 1: about that.
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Speaker 3: No. I think I had a client yesterday actually, and
35:54
Speaker 3: I was talking to her about fiber and she's like,
35:56
Speaker 3: I only thought fiber was just to make you poop,
35:58
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's also, yeah, but it's an
36:01
Speaker 3: important binder and it binds to exist. Hormones exist, toxins
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Speaker 3: in our body and it excretes them out of the stool.
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Speaker 1: That in itself is so important why we're not taught.
36:10
Speaker 1: That's why I take it every day like that. When
36:12
Speaker 1: you said that, I was like, wow, why am I
36:13
Speaker 1: that personal?
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Speaker 3: So I think the Australian guidelines for fiber intake for
36:18
Speaker 3: women are about twenty five grams per day. However, this
36:22
Speaker 3: doesn't take into consideration the stresses that we have day women,
36:28
Speaker 3: and so I recommend at least thirty five grams of
36:32
Speaker 3: fiber per day to support, you know, the eradication of
36:35
Speaker 3: these toxins because we're exposed to so many on a
36:38
Speaker 3: day to day basis.
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Speaker 2: And would this be something that like you're okay with
36:42
Speaker 2: like a fiber supplement or is this predominantly something you
36:44
Speaker 2: would prefer that women get through food.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if they can get it through food, fabulous,
36:49
Speaker 3: But a lot of women aren't getting there in their diet.
36:51
Speaker 3: I would say ninety percent of women aren't eating enough fiber.
36:54
Speaker 3: So I would recommend like a fiber supplement. And there's
36:56
Speaker 3: some great options on the market and some are really
36:59
Speaker 3: easy to take, Like there's something like PHGG and it's
37:03
Speaker 3: a type of fiber and supplement and you can just
37:06
Speaker 3: add it to almost anything. It's heat stable, so you
37:09
Speaker 3: can put it in your coffee.
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Speaker 1: I take one from Nat what's the last name Concreases
37:14
Speaker 1: and it's quite it's not bad tape, but it's like
37:17
Speaker 1: Sliam hask and Cheer and it's it's like so Good's.
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Speaker 3: Got so many different forms of fiber in it. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: so supplements great. If you can get it in your diet, great,
37:28
Speaker 3: but it is quite hard to hatch that fiber take.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes, especially for big meat eaters, which is something Tash
37:35
Speaker 1: picked up on Steve and I with both of us
37:38
Speaker 1: having our livers needing support is straight up. She was like,
37:41
Speaker 1: are you guys eating more of a carnival diet? It's like,
37:43
Speaker 1: how did you know? She like looking at both of
37:45
Speaker 1: your bloods, So both of us are taking a fiber
37:47
Speaker 1: supplement now and just feels so much better.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're binding out those toxins and those hormones
37:53
Speaker 3: are not getting excreted back into your body. So as
37:56
Speaker 3: you with that increase in estrogen, yeah, body was recirculating
37:59
Speaker 3: some of that into the body instead of excreting it
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Speaker 3: by the stoor. Yeah, though you can be passing a
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Speaker 3: vowel motionile. It's not necessarily that you're reading out all
38:08
Speaker 3: the bits and pieces with that because you're not getting
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Speaker 3: that five.
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Speaker 1: Yeah makes so much sense. I feel so much better
38:14
Speaker 1: just knowing that. And when you have an understanding like
38:17
Speaker 1: that sent me, the product age is going. I take
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Speaker 1: it every now and again if I needed to pooh,
38:22
Speaker 1: whereas now I'm like, now I understand what it's doing
38:23
Speaker 1: for my body. I will not miss a day. Yeah,
38:25
Speaker 1: Like I just can't miss a day. Are we taking
38:26
Speaker 1: it traveling with me?
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Speaker 3: It's just so important education component, isn't it? And I
38:31
Speaker 3: try to educate my clients as much as I can
38:33
Speaker 3: during a consult, but it's quite hard sometimes because I'm
38:37
Speaker 3: spending like an hour and a half with them taking
38:39
Speaker 3: their case and gaining all their relevant information. So for you,
38:42
Speaker 3: actually having your bloodstone prior was really beneficial because I
38:45
Speaker 3: could gain a lot of knowledge and explain to you
38:47
Speaker 3: what's going on within your body during that scision as well. Yeah,
38:51
Speaker 3: but sometimes I'm just busy taking so many case notes
38:53
Speaker 3: that education piece is really hard.
38:55
Speaker 2: And what would you suggest for somebody who is either
38:57
Speaker 2: trying to get pregnant or not get pregnant?
38:59
Speaker 3: Having a period tracker is really great. But then also
39:03
Speaker 3: noticing that discharge too, so you're fertile windows when we're
39:06
Speaker 3: getting that beautiful discharge. Yeah, you can also temperature chart.
39:10
Speaker 3: It's a bit tricky because you're having to track your temperature.
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Speaker 3: I never did that morning. Yeah, I tried it for
39:14
Speaker 3: a while, but yeah, it's very hard, basket, Yeah, very hard.
39:17
Speaker 3: In the consistency of doing it every day is tricky.
39:20
Speaker 3: But your basal body temperature will peak just after ovulation.
39:24
Speaker 3: It will peak, So if you're tracking it and then
39:27
Speaker 3: you see that peak, it's like you would have just ovulated.
39:29
Speaker 3: So you need to be able to track it for.
39:30
Speaker 2: A while now, Yeah, to get like a consistent rhythm
39:33
Speaker 2: and understand it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you are noticing your cervical mucus and
39:38
Speaker 3: then tune with your body when you think you ovulate,
39:40
Speaker 3: then you should be able to pick up with an
39:42
Speaker 3: app and yeah, understanding what's going on down there.
39:45
Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. And I know for a while, I mean,
39:48
Speaker 1: you were quite booked out, but when I contacted you,
39:51
Speaker 1: lucky I got in and now you're also treating Steve.
39:53
Speaker 1: Anyone listening like, oh my gosh, I'd love to see
39:56
Speaker 1: it's so cool that it is online, Like do you
39:58
Speaker 1: have spaces you obviously run your retreats. How does it work?
40:01
Speaker 1: Does someone just message you on Instagram?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm predominantly on social media. Yeah, get a
40:05
Speaker 3: lot of clients there and just word of mouth. So
40:07
Speaker 3: I consult like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday typically between school hours
40:10
Speaker 3: because I've got a couple of kids. And then if
40:13
Speaker 3: you want to learn more about your body, that's when
40:16
Speaker 3: retreats could come in handy. Like, of course, I'm going
40:18
Speaker 3: to teach you and educate you in our consults, and
40:20
Speaker 3: I'm going to explain to you why we're doing something,
40:22
Speaker 3: because someone is way more inclined to do something if
40:24
Speaker 3: I'm telling them why we're doing a verse. Just take
40:27
Speaker 3: this supplement. It's going to help you.
40:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.
40:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, So obviously knowing what you know about five and
40:32
Speaker 3: now you're like okay, yeah, because I need to for
40:34
Speaker 3: my overall well being and health andernal health. So yeah,
40:38
Speaker 3: you can book online with me for an initial consult. Typically,
40:41
Speaker 3: i'd like to see some sort of pathology price what's
40:45
Speaker 3: going on, and that can be within the last six months.
40:48
Speaker 3: I see a lot of people that have already had
40:50
Speaker 3: like functional testing done as well, and I can kind
40:53
Speaker 3: of look at that through a different lens, can support
40:56
Speaker 3: someone going through yeah, different health complaints.
40:58
Speaker 1: So yeah, amazing. Thank you. We'll leave your details in
41:02
Speaker 1: the show notes below and then you can get in
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Speaker 1: contact with you about your Thank you so much for
41:06
Speaker 1: joining us. This was so informative, it was incredible. I'm
41:09
Speaker 1: excited to continue my journey with you, and I hope
41:11
Speaker 1: other women book in with you because I've learned so
41:13
Speaker 1: much and we're not just here to survive and get
41:15
Speaker 1: through each day. We want to be thriving internally externally.
41:19
Speaker 1: And I feel great now and I've got some hormon issues.
41:21
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how I feel in three
41:22
Speaker 1: to six months time, you know exact. Yeah, short term
41:26
Speaker 1: and long term so beneficial. So thank you so much
41:29
Speaker 1: for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Sure