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[11/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 9 (Feb 2021) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_01: Already been modified by your expectations.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you perceive something that doesn't meet with your expectations,
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  SPEAKER_01: you will identify it as something else.
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  SPEAKER_01: We all do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your expectations are species
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  SPEAKER_01: Size,
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  SPEAKER_01: cultural, familial, and personal.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, in some way we all turn out like our mothers.
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  SPEAKER_01: I got lucky, I had a cool mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: But
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  SPEAKER_01: if you have an ill mother, You are likely to experience illness.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are likely to perceive illness, even when there isn't any.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you had a vindictive mother,
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  SPEAKER_01: even if you swore you would not be like that,
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  SPEAKER_01: You're still going to be finding it in you and fighting it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Family.
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  SPEAKER_01: Culture.
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  SPEAKER_01: Subculture.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who do you trust?
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  SPEAKER_01: Men or women?
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  SPEAKER_01: When you meet a new person, you will generally categorize them into male or female.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some people don't like that in an attempt to be uncategorizable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nonetheless, people categorize them.
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  SPEAKER_01: You categorize people by the country they're from,
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  SPEAKER_01: their linguistic basis, their race, and you choose who to trust.
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  SPEAKER_01: And who not to trust.
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  SPEAKER_01: Based on this very quickly,
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  SPEAKER_01: you are creating a world of assumptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of the most common assumptions I've been running into lately among people is
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  SPEAKER_01: the assumption that they're not doing it right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because they're not good enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yuck.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where'd you get that?
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  SPEAKER_01: How about the assumption that you don't deserve the good things?
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  SPEAKER_01: How about the assumption that you do deserve the good things?
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  SPEAKER_01: Some people Raised in the assumption that they deserve to be at the top of the heap,
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  SPEAKER_01: because their daddy was,
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  SPEAKER_01: because they got raised that way, get really upset when they find out they aren't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Other people,
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  SPEAKER_01: raised to believe that they should be
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  SPEAKER_01: timid or subservient,
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  SPEAKER_01: Find it very hard to function in areas where that doesn't work.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a simple description of the most obvious illusions.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you underline them.
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  SPEAKER_01: You make them deeper by telling yourself about them all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you tell yourself all the time?
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  SPEAKER_01: I won't get it right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not good enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: Casting nasty spells on yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to
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  SPEAKER_01: do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what the beginnings of Seogchen is all about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Learning to recognize these
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  SPEAKER_01: and to say no thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I do not wish to underline it, make it deeper, co-it, entertain it, feed it a cup of tea.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to let go of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to let it go on by.
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  SPEAKER_01: Be honest with yourself and look at your own life.
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  SPEAKER_01: What are the nasty spells you cast on yourself?
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  [music]
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  SPEAKER_01: Shere singe bardu shen lep dee, dee dhamma zan ta ta tu sum chi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Zogchen jupe lamala sol wadib.
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  SPEAKER_01: Urgyan pema junila sol wadib.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dur ji chang ji tilo naru dang.
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  SPEAKER_01: Marpa, Mila, Gompo, Tsa, Tsa, Pa, Apu, Padang, Pal, Den, Drupas, O, Kargyu, Lama,
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  SPEAKER_01: Nam, La, Sol, O, O, De, O, Chan, Lama, Nam, La,
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  SPEAKER_01: Sol, O, De, O, Chan, Lama, Nam, La, Sol, O, O, De,
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  SPEAKER_01: Ruchen Lama Namla Soluwa Debe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kaginvari Lama Namla Soluwa Debe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sakya Lama Namla Soluwa Debe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nyendudang Yundran Lama Namla Sol, O, O, Deb,
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  SPEAKER_01: Pa, Kwan, Du, Jong, Dang, Yer, Me, Pa,
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  SPEAKER_01: Gwan, Garag, Dur,
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  SPEAKER_01: Jee, Jin, Tra, Pa, Jee, Ti, Dang, Ni, Su, Me, Pa, Yee, Lama Nam Chi Tinti
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  SPEAKER_01: Chung.
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  SPEAKER_01: Until you recognize all appearances mind, You will never realize the meaning of emptiness.
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  SPEAKER_01: To facilitate this understanding,
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  SPEAKER_01: you favored children must apply yourself fullently to diligently analyze
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  SPEAKER_01: and thoroughly search.
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  SPEAKER_01: From where do appearances come from?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where are they now?
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  SPEAKER_01: And where do they go when you are done perceiving them?
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  SPEAKER_01: Consider this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Appearance, what you see, hear, feel, touch, smell, taste.
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  SPEAKER_01: Interpreted by your experiences, your karma,
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  SPEAKER_01: Which gives you your experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is all going on in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is a combination of thoughts, feelings, and perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember we've discussed before the difference between perception and sensations.
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  SPEAKER_01: My eye organ has sensations.
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  SPEAKER_01: I interpret those as a perception.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I perceive this as my coffee.
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  SPEAKER_01: My coffee is in my mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: The sensation of my eyes, nose, touch of my hands, smell of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And taste, I interpret as coffee, my coffee, good coffee.
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  SPEAKER_01: Although my mouth is tasting,
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  SPEAKER_01: having a sensation transmitted from my taste buds to my mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: my mind interprets that sensation as coffee.
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  SPEAKER_01: And mixes it with all my past experience and my belief system that I like coffee.
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  SPEAKER_01: So my perception of coffee is as a wonderful, bitter substance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some people don't like bitter flavors, especially children.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever had Kerala?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a bitter gourd.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's sort of football shaped and warty.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anywhere from about this long to about this long.
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  SPEAKER_01: Looks like maybe a pointy ended warty cucumber.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever eaten it?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's extremely bitter.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are ways of getting some of the bitter out of it,
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  SPEAKER_01: but most people don't do those things because they eat it for the bitter taste.
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  SPEAKER_01: They like that taste.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is what is called an acquired taste.
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  SPEAKER_01: You acquire a taste through your experience, and so you interpret that sensation on your tongue
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  SPEAKER_01: Of good bitter coffee.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like a dark roast, but I don't like it sour.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like it bitter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pete's coffee is often a bit sour.
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  SPEAKER_01: So is Pike's Place Blend.
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  SPEAKER_01: At Starbucks, these are all things you may have tasted if you haven't had Kerala.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good dark chocolate
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  SPEAKER_01: is bitter.
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  SPEAKER_01: We add a lot of sugar to it to keep it from being bitter,
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  SPEAKER_01: but the real reality of
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  SPEAKER_01: a good dark chocolate that's not very sweetened Is marvelously bitter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you like it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you not like it?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your interpretation of the sensation in your tongue as delicious,
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  SPEAKER_01: not delicious is where the sensation mixes with all your memories and all
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  SPEAKER_01: the connotations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chocolate means love.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chocolate makes me feel good.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so an experience arises.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your experiences are in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: But don't take my word for this.
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  SPEAKER_01: I might be talking through my hand or through my top knot.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I
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  SPEAKER_01: might be a con artist, just telling you things to see what could happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look for yourself at how this happens.
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  SPEAKER_01: Examine how you experience the world around you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then right now in this moment, the experience of this moment, all the sensations
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  SPEAKER_01: interpreted
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  SPEAKER_01: With my eyes I see a window across the room from me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I see.
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  SPEAKER_01: I perceive.
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  SPEAKER_01: How do I know that's a window?
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  SPEAKER_01: The very word window is in my mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a thought.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sensation of squareness, of brightness, Of transparency, I interpret that sensation as window.
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  SPEAKER_01: If I had been raised in a tent as a compa nomad and never seen glass in the old days
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  SPEAKER_01: and never seen a window, I might think that was simply a hole in the wall.
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  SPEAKER_01: I might think it was a magic manifestation
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh goodness, the things I could interpret that as.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your experience in this moment is going on in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you see this for yourself?
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  SPEAKER_01: Earlier this morning, I went out in the sun on the back deck.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's cold and windy out front.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there was a bit of sun, which was nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I experienced being out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where is that experience now?
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  SPEAKER_01: In memory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did it happen the way I think it did?
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  SPEAKER_01: Did I notice every single thing
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  SPEAKER_01: There are beautiful green flowers I noticed on a tree that I have not seen bloom
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  SPEAKER_01: before, a small one.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I went to it to look closely at the flowers, pale green yellow.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I looked in the center and there were no statements.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those aren't flowers, that's a leaf pattern.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I had been enjoying them for quite a while as flowers.
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  SPEAKER_01: With all the symbolism and connotation that flowers occur,
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  SPEAKER_01: and with the delight that that tree has finally done something pretty,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been wondering what kind of tree it might be.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it had buds, so I wondered if it would bloom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you see?
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  SPEAKER_01: My memory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of what happened.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of standing on the back deck and enjoying looking at the pretty flowers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those didn't be flowers.
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  SPEAKER_01: I thought they were and so had the entire experience of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: My memories are not accurate.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I tell you all those funny stories about my past,
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  SPEAKER_01: And the weird adventures I had bumming around the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you really think it happened that way?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you my memories.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some of the stories I've told before.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you think I improved them a bit so that they'd have humor or a punchline?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you think I...
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  SPEAKER_01: Diminished them a bit, so they didn't sound as dangerous as they might have been.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do
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  SPEAKER_01: you really think they happened the way I remember them?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I seriously doubt it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember all the details.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember how many bandits I had that gunfight with.
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  SPEAKER_01: It looked like a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it was only a few.
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  SPEAKER_01: We just don't know what happened.
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  SPEAKER_01: All we know is what we remember of what we thought was happening at the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our memories, simply interpretations.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where
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  SPEAKER_01: are your previous experiences?
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then, neither is mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: During your examination you will see.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a glass this morning.
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  SPEAKER_01: During your examination you will see that just as mist arises out of the sky
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  SPEAKER_01: and dissolves back into the sky.
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  SPEAKER_01: Appearances are a magical display of your own mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Arising in the mind and vanishing back into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have a look.
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  SPEAKER_01: Taking this just by my words as a teaching and either believing it
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  SPEAKER_01: or disbelieving it is useless here.
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  SPEAKER_01: What you need to do is look at your own self and see if it is true or not.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Buddha said,
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  SPEAKER_01: Take your teachings, take my teachings, like buying gold in the bazaar of Benares.
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  SPEAKER_01: If any of you have been to the Indian big city bazaars and seen what they will try
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  SPEAKER_01: to sell you as gold or silk,
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  SPEAKER_01: pure cotton, Show me the label.
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  SPEAKER_01: When it's so obviously polyester.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when I burn a thread to show that I know what I'm looking at here, they just laugh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But there's some cotton in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: When Nyando first came to India,
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  SPEAKER_01: do you remember, dear,
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  SPEAKER_01: how you would go into a shop and ask for something and accept what they handed you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Without looking at it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would send her for sugar and she'd bring home flour.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would send her for... because she didn't know to open the bag and see what she'd been given.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they'll give you anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they don't have the thing you want,
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  SPEAKER_00: they'll give you something else because they want to make a sale.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it works both ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also in the hotel ordered three sets of towels for us,
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  SPEAKER_00: and the boys working in the hotel didn't understand the English,
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  SPEAKER_00: and so brought us three orders of toast.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we had like a loaf of toast arrive with plenty of butter rather than
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  SPEAKER_00: the towels we needed for our shower.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, well, some of it's linguistic, but some of it's just custom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Buyer beware.
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  SPEAKER_01: So don't take my word for this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the only way.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the only way you'll actually know if it's real or not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Take as an example the shimmering effect seen by a man who is nearsighted
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  SPEAKER_01: and takes off his glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: The distorted fuzzy look of things, are they really like that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Although the world appears to exist in a blurry form, go on, take off your glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: Shall I think, oh dear, my text is blurred?
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  SPEAKER_01: There's something wrong with my text?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it definitely looks blurry.
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  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if the water was spilled on it and it smudged.
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  SPEAKER_01: How did it get so blurry?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oops.
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  SPEAKER_01: I took my glasses off.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yet,
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  SPEAKER_01: do you not go around seeing things and thinking that they are
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  SPEAKER_01: the way you think they are out there really like that However you think it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you do.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it gets you in trouble every time.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you stand up quickly,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you are a bit dehydrated or have been lying down for a long time,
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  SPEAKER_01: you see little,
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  SPEAKER_01: they look like little gnats flying around,
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  SPEAKER_01: black and silver, at the corners of your vision.
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  SPEAKER_01: They move kind of like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you think those really occur?
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  SPEAKER_01: That some kind of weird demonic bug appears and you can only see it
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  SPEAKER_01: when you stand up quickly when you're dehydrated?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm referring to seeing stars.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you see them when you hit your head.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those things.
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  SPEAKER_01: You think they're really there?
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  SPEAKER_01: And yet when you meet a person, you think they're really the way you think they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your spouse, your lover, you have an idea of what they're like.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not who
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  SPEAKER_01: they really
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  SPEAKER_00: are.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's who you think
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  SPEAKER_01: they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: And some days you think they're absolutely wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_01: And some days you think they're totally annoying.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you think it's about them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nuh-uh.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's going on in your own mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: In the same way when mental functions are imposed by negative propensities.
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  SPEAKER_01: To cause clinging to apparently external objects as discrete and substantial entities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then visual and auditory phenomena appear to exist where not so much as
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  SPEAKER_01: an atom can be proved to have ultimate reality.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everything is a figment of mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: You ever take the Torah, Shadok Shmiel, Throat of the Camel in North Africa,
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a plant that grows wild by the river.
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  SPEAKER_01: Trumpet flower, don't do this on your own.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a deadly poison if you don't do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let me go back over here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so YouTube is back and Facebook is messed, it looks like.
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  SPEAKER_01: You all missed the story of the principal and the mob.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've got to restart.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to have to restart again.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll be back once we have experienced and gotten hold of the technical difficulties.
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  SPEAKER_01: Shit happens.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay,
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  SPEAKER_00: let's go back here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll do it live.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll create post live.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so that should all be good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Give me a minute here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not a problem.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yes, it's the last day of the retrograde.
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  Okay, you should be live on Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hi, I think you're all back now.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are experiencing technical difficulties.
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  SPEAKER_01: The point of the story that I was telling you is simply
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  SPEAKER_01: about how intensely we create the world around us by our belief systems.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: All these figments of mind are baseless and empty.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are empty of existence.
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  SPEAKER_01: What you see,
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  SPEAKER_01: what you perceive as sight,
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  SPEAKER_01: your perception of seeing,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's not really there like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: What you hear,
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  SPEAKER_01: How you interpret the sound.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's not really like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's your interpretation.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: When you sleep at night and dream, there are sights,
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: sounds, textures, tastes,
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: smells.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where are they?
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  SPEAKER_01: What are they made of?
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: No difference really
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  SPEAKER_01: between dreaming
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  SPEAKER_01: and waking.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're making them both up.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're both going on in your mind.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: Things aren't the way you think they are.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: Never were, never will be.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Notice this for yourself by examining it.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Now in our sleep we may dream of our native country,
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: our parental house, relatives or friends as if they were actually present.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: And we may have all those strong feelings.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: Once I dreamed I had a child, a baby, in arms, nursing,
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I woke up and I've never had a baby in Arms Nursing.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the baby?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: You can dream the perfect lover
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: and wake up and miss them because they're gone.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: You can dream you see a dead relative
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  SPEAKER_01: And wake up and grieve the awaking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Arising in mind and dissolving in mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: The object of your feeling.
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  SPEAKER_01: The feeling and even the feel-er.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: You.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Aren't who you think you are.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: Each and every sensual experience of our lives is an experience similar to last night's dream.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Arising, vanishing, never was.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not the way you thought it was.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: Just as we attach labels to dream entities,
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: objectifying and clinging to them as substantial real things in the dream,
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: so appearances are modified and apprehended by mind in the waking state.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: In the same way that dreams have no substance,
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: the figments of mind, all appearance whatsoever, are also empty.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have questions?
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm presuming something's probably come through by now.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: That was the end of chapter nine.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: A couple had come through and then we lost them when the connection went.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: The one question I have from the Spanish Channel is,
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: what criteria determines whether or not a person is remane?
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have questions yet for... Determines if a person is remane?
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: Whether they adhere tightly To a single lineage thinking it's the very best
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: and have patriotism to it.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: Or whether although they may choose to do a certain practice specifically in
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: a certain lineage, they don't think it's the best.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: They simply think it's the best one for themselves in this moment.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: And they do not have, they have gratitude, but not patriotism.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the difference between being a nationalist and a globalist.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: Rime is like a globalist.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Suri is like a nationalist.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, all that America first crap that was going on with the Republicans?
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: We're all in this together.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's what Rime means.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: Anything else or I'll go on to the next chapter.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: What is gravitation in the Dzogchen context?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: A concept of up and down.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: The Tibetan culture perceives it as an absolute.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Remember Flat Earth.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Sky above, Earth below.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: Gods above, Hells below.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Your Western concept
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: explains it as possibly a warping in space causing matter
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: to slide downhill towards each other.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, no, that's not quite right.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: But you get what I mean.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: The attraction of matter to matter.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Neither is real.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: Did Galileo discover that the earth was round or create it that the earth was round
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: in the dream of life?
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Consider this because this is going to be the key to all the magic.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let go of what you think is real.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Scientific theory
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: within itself is
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: self-maintaining,
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: self-supporting,
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: but it's just a way of seeing the world.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: Religion Within itself is self-supporting, but it's just a different way of seeing the world.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: All ways are equivalent.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: They're just ways.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: Algebra has rules that hold true within algebra.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: It does not hold true outside of algebra.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: If you really like approaching things through a scientific method,
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: go play with quantum physics.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that the perceiver creates the perceived is well known in scientific theory now.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Gravity is an experience.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: Do not suddenly decide you don't believe in it and step off the roof.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: You will do yourself a mischief.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: There is a group consensus that it is very difficult to depart from.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: A group reality, a group karma, a group perception.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: And the current group perception of your species and culture is very hard to get loose from.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Any other questions coming?
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Do sensations also happen in the mind?
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes and no.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: Their name.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: Pain, pleasure.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Itch.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: The name of the sensation definitely happens in the mind.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: But the sense organs.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: Are active due to the confluence
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: of the elements
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: and will continue to experience
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: when the elements separate
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: and return to their insubstantial nature.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: Sensations will continue according to karma.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: The bardo.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: The bardo of becoming.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Another life, another dream, between dreams.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: It is the nature of mind to create experience.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Karma is the study, the science of how certain actions lead to certain experiences.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_01: It allows one to steer one's experiences.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: Trying to steer them using other methods does not work very well because there's
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: When you grab at something, you will experience it becoming more and more difficult to get.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: When you shove at something, you will experience it shoving back.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: This is the push-pull of experience.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: This has to do with karma.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sensations arise out of the long body patterns.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: Through time and space that thinks it's you.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: However,
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: all the long body patterns are interconnected,
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: interwoven, intermixed with all the other ones.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: So you really can't separate it out.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: Nonetheless, it is the nature of mind to be lucid.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: And that lucidity creates experiences.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: And experiences are made of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings all build blood in together.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, when you take it to its absolute,
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: The sensations arise in the mind just as they do in a dream.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: How do we tame the grabbing impulse that seems to create and sustain the illusion?
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, not by shoving at it.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: It'll chase you.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: By relaxing it.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: Relaxing around it.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: All the sensations that you are having of your sixth sense organs,
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: don't forget the ye,
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: the neural tissue in here,
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: which is extremely sensitive to neurotransmitters.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: And perceives feelings as a sensation.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: In the arisings of phenomena both inner and outer,
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_01: and the dissolving of phenomena both inner and outer,
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: There is no separation
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: between the experiencer of the phenomena,
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: the phenomena itself,
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: and the arising dissolution.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure I answered that question effectively.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: Would you repeat the question?
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: How do we tame the, quote,
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: grabbing impulse, end of quote, that seems to create and sustain the illusion?
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just by relaxing is not enough for an explanation.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_01: Using method.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: The methods of Sutrayana, which involves paying attention to Gawa and Digpa.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: The methods of Tantrayana, which involves
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: manipulating perceptions with symbols.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_01: And the methods of Mahamudra or Dzogchen,
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: which involves a relaxed awareness and becoming habituated to it.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: By these methods,
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: since this is a Dzogchen teaching, I will talk more about the Dzogchen method.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_01: Rather than the Mahamudra, Tantra, or Sutrayana method here.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: And this is just due to time constraints.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: In Dzogchen, when you notice a grasping,
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: my coffee, precious.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: You don't fight it.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: You don't co-it by believing it's real or something.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: You relax around it.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: I want a cup of coffee.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I want a cup of coffee.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: I have a cup of coffee, so that's not a problem.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: If I didn't have a cup of coffee, that also wouldn't be a problem unless I made it one.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_01: It might be a problem for the people around me.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: Since it is said that I am quite a bear without my coffee.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: It is a matter of relaxed acceptance.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: You'll find more about this in Working With Emotions, the teaching.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_01: I believe there's a sign-up sheet for those of you that haven't had it.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: For those of you that have, re-watch it.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: Work with it.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: Practice it.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: It has to do with relaxing around the emotion of desire
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: and,
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: of course, around the emotion of aversion.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: My feet are cold.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: I have aversion to cold feet.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: However, that's fine.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: I can have aversion to cold feet.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have to shove away or pretend I don't have aversion to cold feet.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: Nor do I particularly have to right away fix the cold feet.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm busy.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: They'll warm up later.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'll go sit by the fire.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: Prop my feet up on the stove.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Eh.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay to have cold feet.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay to like warm feet.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: Preference of one sensation over another sensation is okay.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: But you don't have to act on it.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to be bent out of shape by it.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have to keep telling myself how much I hate cold feet and underlining
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: and underlining and underlining that.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: Eh.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't mind.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna relax around having cold feet and a good cup of coffee.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: You better learn this by old age.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's a bitch.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: And fun.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: And all possible descriptions.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: But it does have some pretty intense sensations and emotions
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: as you watch your death approaching.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: Inevitably,
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: So as you feel the want to grab,
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: sit there with the want to grab without grabbing.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Just be okay with wanting.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: The sensation of having cold feet and wanting to warm them is fine with me.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have to fix it.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: I can sit here wanting that.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's inconvenient for me to do anything about it, so I won't.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't mind wanting warm feet.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Just leaving it be.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm letting go of the push-pull.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm relaxing around it.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm accepting the feeling of desire and of aversion.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not grabbing them or entertaining them.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Or usually I wouldn't even be talking to myself about them,
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_01: but I'm talking to you about them as an example,
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: which is underlining them slightly for me.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: Normally I wouldn't do that.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: Leave it go.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_01: You ever,
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_01: this is a little kid thing,
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_01: but I still get it sometimes,
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: you're so into what you're doing,
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: the book you're reading,
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: the creative project, you gotta pee, but you don't wanna go pee.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: You don't wanna stop what you're doing and go pee.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: So you sit there accepting that you have to pee for quite a while before
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: as it gets stronger and stronger and stronger, eventually you get up and go pee.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about accepting sensations without judging them.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: We judge cold feet as bad.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: We judge hunger as bad.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's just another sensation.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: Leave it be.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: It has a story around it.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: Strip it naked.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: See the thoughts of which the story is made,
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: arising and vanishing of their own accord, like they do.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: Sopa.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: Third word of Garibdurji.
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  SPEAKER_01: Leave that be, it's always like that.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: And feel.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: And don't try to fix it.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: Just feel it.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: Don't be stupid with this.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: I am presuming that you are rational adults with common sense.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: There are at least three of you out there,
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: if we have our usual numbers, who do not have common sense.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I apologize to you.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's really important to be careful in teaching people without common sense
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_01: because they get themselves into a fucking mess.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: Please, if you do this to yourself, I will not take responsibility.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: For you sabotaging yourself by throwing your common sense out the window.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: So don't go hold your finger in a candle flame to try to accept the sensation.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's bad for your finger.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_01: And know the difference between on a nice day where your feet are just
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: a little bit cold and the danger of frostbite.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: Common sense remains.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_01: The Tibetans don't tell you this.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is because very few Tibetans could possibly survive past the age of about 15
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: without common sense in that climate.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_01: You die easily.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_01: There are things that eat people.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't change your socks and keep your feet dry and warm enough,
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_01: you get frostbite,
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: and then you can't walk, and then you get snowed under, and then you die.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_01: So the ones without common sense have died out.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_01: What's left has common sense.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, mostly I know a yogi who, never mind.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: I know a couple of yogis who.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: But guys, maintain your common sense while working with this, okay?
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's a difference between playing with a sensation and learning
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_01: to relax around it and just leave it be and not try to fix it.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: And doing that to the extent of body harm.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: Usually Dzogchen comes after Tantra and you have a vow not to harm the body.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: Tantric precepts.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_01: Some people interpret it as don't cut the hair of the head or the fingernails
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: and they get really long claws and great matted masses.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's the Buddha trying to keep people from falling into the trap of austerities.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: Which just gets you reborn as a god and there's no point.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: More questions?
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why is waking reality a more persistent illusion than the dream bargo?
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_01: But it isn't.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_01: How many fucking lives?
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_01: They don't persist.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's constantly changing, just like the Dream Bardo.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_01: The only difference is that you have an inborn species genetic saw pattern,
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: channel pattern,
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: which is held by the way your elements connect to each other.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: And which does not change on certain deep levels in waking time.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: You can change it in the dream time.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: You can totally change it and be a different species with different sense organs.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_01: But that's advanced dream yoga and can only be taught in the dream time.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: This
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: Will dissipate when your elements separate from each other at the end of each life.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_01: And a reform at the end of Bardu of Becoming.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_01: Bardu of Becoming is remarkably like dream time as each dream leads to the next.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: But it's just a matter of how fast There's nothing solid
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_01: except species genetic,
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: you know, which has got how tall you are and color of your eyes and stuff.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: Even that is changeable, but not without a friggin' lot of trouble.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that and also because of the way you assume that there is real life.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oxymoron.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: And dream time.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: And that real life is real and dream time isn't.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_01: This is one of those assumptions that I warned you about in the beginning.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's moving constantly.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: Phenomena by its nature changes and moves,
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_01: all phenomena,
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: which arises in mind and dissolves in mind,
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_01: but no bit of it has substance or duration.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: Each moment
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: Leads to the next moment in a four-dimensional pattern of lines created by karma.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's a visualization.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yours may be different.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: Can you give some examples of nyams of clarity?
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_01: You ever make a retreat?
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_01: And you come out of retreat,
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  SPEAKER_01: and everything is clear, and you feel wise, and you know you're clear.
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  SPEAKER_01: And after a few days of running around town, it wears off,
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: adds a gnom of clarity.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is the sensation of heightened awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can get it from fasting.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_01: Some people eat very special diets.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had a medical teacher in med school.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who ate a very special diet involving the Chinese clock and when you could eat and
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  SPEAKER_01: when you could have sex and everything was harmoniously patterned in
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_01: with Chinese medicine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which gave her an almost miraculous ability at diagnosis and curing people.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she troubled her life.
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  SPEAKER_01: To narrow it and make it
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  SPEAKER_01: very tight in scheduling and what she could eat,
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  SPEAKER_01: what she couldn't eat, when she could eat this, when she could eat that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very intense.
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  SPEAKER_01: For the sake of others.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that she could function as a doctor on an almost miraculous level.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very dedicated.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of my Chinese medicine teachers, Angela.
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  SPEAKER_01: Angela Shen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Amazing, amazing woman.
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  SPEAKER_00: Other questions?
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is relaxing in the fact that mind wanders away during and after meditation sessions
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  SPEAKER_00: a so-called sign of progress?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or is it just a trick of my ego?
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not you relax in the fact, but you nonetheless common sense.
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  SPEAKER_01: Use the tool of mindfulness to return it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You just don't beat it up for straying.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's a big difference between relaxing and the fact that it does that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they do.
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  SPEAKER_01: And indulging in it doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you see the difference between relaxing and indulging?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because this is really important.
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  SPEAKER_01: You relax into the mind having wandered so that when using the tool of mindfulness
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  SPEAKER_01: to bring it back,
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  SPEAKER_01: You are not caught in a disparagement of it having done that cycle.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you do use the tool of mindfulness to return it again and again.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_01: Be careful because the fine line between relaxing and indulging, you need to find that.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: I trip over that fucker all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I know how fine a line it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look for it.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_00: You mentioned your Chinese medicine teacher
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_00: earlier, talking about how she arranged her life to help others.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a couple of questions we have ask about the suffering of others
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  SPEAKER_00: and How do these appearances work?
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  SPEAKER_00: How should we perceive other people and things worth caring for?
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  SPEAKER_01: Care for them without blame.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without thinking you are better than.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_01: You're not.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've been there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you may go there again.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not hard to see how
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  SPEAKER_01: Pain is inevitable.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: We grow old and die.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: We get sick.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it doesn't have to be suffering.
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  SPEAKER_01: Suffering is optional.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_01: Suffering is how you take it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Next time you are feeling depressed, it'll happen, trust me.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: Happens to everybody from time to time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Brain chemicals change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Saw pattern changes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you'll get that one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sit there without minding the sensation and without telling yourself stories
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  SPEAKER_01: about why you're depressed today.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's raining.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because you pissed in your shoe when you got up to pee.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody gets piss in your shoe days.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: Chandotuku used to talk about those.
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  SPEAKER_01: He says,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: some mornings you get up and you go out to take a leak
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  SPEAKER_01: and you discover you're pissing in your shoe.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_01: We leave our shoes outside the door.
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  SPEAKER_01: At the time, I think we were living in tents.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_01: So you go out to take a leak and you piss in your shoe.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then you look down and you discover you've pissed in your shoe.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: And you realize that today is going to be a piss in your shoe day.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_01: So you go back to bed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't fight it.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_01: Apparently,
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_01: even that very high Lama still got piss in his shoe days,
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  SPEAKER_01: which I find very reassuring.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: You ever get those?
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_01: Not literally, maybe,
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  SPEAKER_01: because you have toilets here in the West,
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_01: but the days when nothing you try works, everything breaks in your hands.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_01: You try to fix it and you glue your elbow to the table.
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  SPEAKER_01: Relax.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Moon's in caca, we used to say.
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  SPEAKER_01: It'll pass.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to get all bent out of shape about your own suffering.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_01: And yet,
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  SPEAKER_01: if there is something easy that you can do about your suffering,
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_01: you're going to do it, right?
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_01: If you're hungry, you're probably going to go eat some food.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're cold, you'll probably put on a sweater.
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  SPEAKER_01: Go sit by the fire, have a hot beverage.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're warm, you'll take a sweater off, generally.
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  SPEAKER_01: In that same simple, common sense, practical way, when you have an opportunity,
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  SPEAKER_01: assist others.
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  SPEAKER_01: The time you spend crying about their suffering is time that will block you
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  SPEAKER_01: from seeing how to assist them.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_01: And be careful.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_01: In the Tibetan custom, we always wait for someone to ask.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: I sat outside on a wall.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember, I'm medical.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_01: A dying friend, in there dying,
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  SPEAKER_01: Waiting for her to ask me to have her not die.
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  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't go in and do that, even though it was a very close friend.
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  SPEAKER_01: Finally,
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  SPEAKER_01: after a few days of circling the drain,
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  SPEAKER_01: she asked me if I could save her life,
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_01: and I said, of course, and we proceeded to do so.
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  SPEAKER_01: Get her to the hospital, get her a blood transfusion,
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_00: And that was what was needed.
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  SPEAKER_01: So do wait to be asked.
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  SPEAKER_01: It can be important.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_01: One of my earlier training doctors, Tibetan medicine, this one,
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Was called to the room of a man who had taken an overdose to commit suicide, a Westerner.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she came in and he said,
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  SPEAKER_00: go away.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want a doctor.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to die.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, oh, I'm terribly sorry.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_01: There's been a misunderstanding.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_01: I thought you wanted a doctor.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you go ahead then.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_01: And walked out.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Went down to the nearest tea shop and had a cup of tea.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_01: He quickly changed his mind since it wasn't working
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_01: and getting him whatever attention he was trying to get and called her back
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_01: and asked her to keep him alive.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_01: She made him throw up.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Made him drink something nasty and he threw up the extra drugs.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Do wait.
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  SPEAKER_01: Until someone wants you to do something for them
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_01: because otherwise you're imposing your idea of what would be good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which may be different from theirs.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Don't be dragging little old ladies across the street whether they want to go
• 1:13:49
  SPEAKER_01: or not like a good boy scout.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Any more questions?
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Look for priorities because I want to go on to the next chapter.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Just this one then.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_00: How do we realize that everything is manifestation of the mind?
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_00: By keep looking at where all experiences are happening?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Start with your thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Always pry up the loose edge first.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's easier.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Why make it hard?
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  SPEAKER_01: Look where your thoughts be happening and keep doing that.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_01: Since your thoughts spin the reality you live in,
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_01: keep doing that continuously until you see without a shadow of a doubt
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_01: where they occur and what they're made of.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_01: Just like that.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_01: Start with thoughts.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's easier than starting with feelings or perceptions.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody wants to do it with perceptions.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_01: Since your perceptions are based on what you think is happening, start with thoughts.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_01: when you're trying to untie a knot and yarn or a tangle,
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: if you can find the loose end, that makes it easier.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Thoughts are the loose end.
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go on to the next chapter
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_01: for a while and then come back for questions.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_01: We are now on chapter 10, which is relatively long, so we probably won't finish it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Emma Ho, only children of my heart, most well beloved.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_01: All appearances are indeterminate and equivocal,
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  SPEAKER_01: so much so that what some can see, others cannot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is this true?
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  SPEAKER_01: Consider it.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Further regarding the sentient beings of this world,
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_01: some conceive of this world as earth,
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_01: some conceive of the world as fire,
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_01: some conceive of the world as wealth, and some conceive of the world as suffering.
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  SPEAKER_01: Consider this, is it true?
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Some sentient beings conceive of water as water.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_01: Some conceive of water as fire.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some conceive of water as nectar.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Some conceive of water as their home,
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_01: while others conceive of water as a solid surface, the earth, to walk upon.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Ever watch a water skate on a brook?
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_01: A little bug walks on the surface of water?
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_01: For it, that is a solid surface of Earth.
• 1:17:50
  SPEAKER_01: A salamander,
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  SPEAKER_01: not the reptile kind, the fire kind, is a fire spirit that lives in fires sometimes.
• 1:18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Fish see water.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or do they?
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's just home.
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_01: They don't think of drinking water being in water.
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  SPEAKER_01: The gods perceive it as nectar.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we do.
• 1:19:19
  SPEAKER_00: We are... Let's see.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_00: YouTube may be back up.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're not sure, but you may be back.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_00: And now we've got Facebook back, it looks like.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Eh, we are experiencing technical difficulties.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Bear with us.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Jokes about you going rainbow.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: And why is this?
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_01: For someone to go rainbow,
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_01: not only does the individual need to complete the practice that leads to that,
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_01: But the people surrounding need to be able to perceive that.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's why it hasn't happened in the West yet.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Very hard for Westerners to see.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's easier for Westerners to do it.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_01: There was a Westerner who did it up in Tibet.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Guy from down in Santa Clara, California.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_01: But so far, even the Tibetans haven't managed it in the West.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because you can't, there's nobody to perceive it.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Going rainbow is not an individual occurrence on account of there ain't no individual.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_01: It is a group occurrence that occurs around both the one who is perceived,
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_01: perceives themselves Not going rainbow, but dissolving their elements within life.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_01: And those around who perceive that occurrence as someone going rainbow.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Can't do it without both.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_01: You all think I'm real?
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_01: There's a real Lama Lena here?
• 1:21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Facebook is still dead in the water.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_01: Facebook is, do I have YouTube?
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_01: You have YouTube, yes.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Put something if you can on Facebook, say go on over to YouTube.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_01: We can't maintain Facebook.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_00: No, you made
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_01: me up.
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you see here is in your mind.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not the same as I see here.
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_01: This chapter is really hard for Westerners to understand because all
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_01: the analogies are in a different cultural matrix.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_01: So let me give you some Western analogies and then I'll give you a Tibetan story.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_01: Think of the waterskate who perceives water as a solid, not a liquid.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Think of the birds who perceive air as a liquid in which they swim.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_01: Think of the worms who perceive earth
• 1:22:51
  SPEAKER_01: as a liquid through which they crawl rather
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_01: than something that they are constrained to remain on the surface of.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Earthworms.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very happy creatures.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_01: Think of the hot vents in the ocean,
• 1:23:26
  SPEAKER_01: which are well up in the 300 degrees, 200 degrees Celsius above boiling.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_01: There are worms that perceive that heat as comfortable and live there.
• 1:23:43
  SPEAKER_01: They have been documented.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_01: They perceive that heat delightfully.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_01: There are spirits that live in volcanoes.
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Pele is one of them.
• 1:24:04
  SPEAKER_01: They perceive molten lava fire as their home.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_01: There are little spirits that live in fire that you can sometimes fire in
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_01: a fireplace,
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_01: but only if you keep it burning all the time, which takes a lot of fuel.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Some sadhus do it.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_01: They take a log and they light one end and they keep it smoldering.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes they can get a salamander to live in there.
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes.
• 1:24:35
  SPEAKER_01: Some forges have managed it also.
• 1:24:43
  SPEAKER_01: They increase the heat of the fire.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_01: What else can I give you as an analogy?
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Many people agreed that an idiot was wise.
• 1:25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Including the idiot.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_01: To the extent that that idiot gained great power.
• 1:25:15
  SPEAKER_01: And yet that certainly, there wasn't wisdom there.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_01: Or kindness.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_01: We spin the world.
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to think of examples that match some of these Tibetan examples
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_01: about sadhus who meditated and become things.
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_01: In my own experience, it's easier because I've lived out there.
• 1:25:56
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't notice a boulder, In a certain way,
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_01: other people will see you walk through it.
• 1:26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Kunur Rinpoche's mom got so drunk one night,
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_01: she fell on the lake and walked back to the shore on it.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_01: But she was blotto.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_01: I remember that night, because all the monks were standing there going, ah.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Watching her walk on the water.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_01: In all the legends of transmuting things,
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_01: being a siddha, a great power, you know what actually happens all the time?
• 1:26:50
  SPEAKER_01: You just don't allow it.
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_01: You don't accept.
• 1:26:56
  SPEAKER_01: It must have always been like that.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_01: That tree must have always been there.
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder why I never noticed it.
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_01: That building, that shop.
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that I remember it having been on the other side of the street,
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_01: is that my memory or did it move?
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_01: You'll never know.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Not for sure.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_01: A microbe.
• 1:27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Never mind a microbe, a little water bear, perceives a microscopic tuft of moss as a forest.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Look at how the different perceptions of the different things, a surface,
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_01: In the forest.
• 1:28:05
  SPEAKER_01: The forest floor.
• 1:28:08
  SPEAKER_01: For a bacteria, it's very easy to move through there.
• 1:28:12
  SPEAKER_01: There are gaps of space in it.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Life is everywhere.
• 1:28:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not always life as we know it.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_01: We have problems perceiving.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Anything that does not reflect light in a very narrow set of wavelengths
• 1:28:34
  SPEAKER_01: or make noise in a very narrow set of wavelengths.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_01: The world is completely different with different sense organs, different environments.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_01: Can you see this?
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_01: There's a story that Lama Tuktenyeshe used to tell.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Once upon a time,
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_01: A hell being was traveling through the hells,
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_01: thirsty, hot, and came upon a pool of bubbling, sulfurous,
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_01: molten rock and fire.
• 1:29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like those pools in Yellowstone that sometimes critters fall in and are cooked.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_01: A pretta.
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  SPEAKER_01: In the exact same place,
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_01: but traveling through pretta experience,
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  SPEAKER_01: came upon a big nasty swamp full of pus and leeches.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stinking.
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  SPEAKER_01: A man traveling through the exact same place
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  SPEAKER_01: came upon a spring of cool, clear water.
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  SPEAKER_01: As did an animal, they share a realm.
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  SPEAKER_01: A frog, animal hopping through that area, Found a new home and jumped in.
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  SPEAKER_01: An Asura,
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  SPEAKER_01: non-gods,
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  SPEAKER_01: in the exact same place came upon a beautiful fountain of Amrita,
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  SPEAKER_01: water of immortality,
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  SPEAKER_01: and immediately began making plans on how to defend it and establishing a perimeter.
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  SPEAKER_01: They never did get around to drinking.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a god came upon the same beautiful fountain and stopped and enjoyed its refreshment.
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  SPEAKER_01: What was in that place?
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  SPEAKER_01: We perceive, experience the sensations we experience according to our karma.
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  SPEAKER_01: And according to our karma,
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  SPEAKER_01: we interpret those sensations as a reality
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  SPEAKER_01: based on our karma belief systems.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't have free will.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very little.
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  SPEAKER_00: This much.
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  SPEAKER_01: Use it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Steer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Create enough gawa and it'll open up.
• 1:32:13
  SPEAKER_01: With the way our internet is bouncing and the difficulty of this chapter and
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  SPEAKER_01: the discussion that will be needed,
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  SPEAKER_01: that's as much as I'm going to do on number 10 this week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you have questions?
• 1:32:29
  SPEAKER_00: First, I have to report a YouTube comment.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ah, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Another perception,
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  SPEAKER_00: the title on the video keeps switching from Flight of the Garuda Part 9
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  SPEAKER_00: to NASA Live Official Stream of NASA TV.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like they're suddenly trying to switch us over to the stream from Mars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so maybe that's where our reality's going.
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  SPEAKER_01: Could be, maybe they will find life similar enough to us to recognize it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's life on Earth they haven't recognized.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's all sorts of critters they haven't noticed yet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because they don't reflect the right wavelength.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or make sounds you can hear with
• 1:33:18
  SPEAKER_01: your ears.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they're around.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you're a child sometimes,
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  SPEAKER_01: and you haven't yet really formed a can and can't,
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  SPEAKER_01: possible and impossible as strongly, you sometimes see some of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Something looks like little fuzzy gold puffballs.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see them in the wildlands, in the vacant lots, sometimes beside roads.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I was a kid, I thought they were fairies.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a critter.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're cute.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is other things not so cute?
• 1:34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Reality is bigger than you think it is.
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_01: The whole universe is bigger than you think it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Please do not believe the limitations of your thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do we have any questions?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Could you explain one taste?
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  SPEAKER_00: Intellectually for you, sure.
• 1:34:38
  SPEAKER_01: One taste is where the perceiver, the perception, and the perceived are the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: They taste the same.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look at that.
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  SPEAKER_01: The perceiver, the one having the perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: The very perceptions themselves, the thoughts, the feelings.
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  SPEAKER_01: That whole bilbla.
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  SPEAKER_01: And whatever is being perceived are not separate.
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  SPEAKER_01: The perceiver is created by the perception while creating it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Empty mirror facing an empty mirror.
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  SPEAKER_01: No thing happens.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, an interesting question.
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Let me see if I can find it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are there other sentient beings in dreams?
• 1:36:10
  SPEAKER_00: If I kill someone in a dream, is that different from what we consider regular reality?
• 1:36:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because, I mean, is someone harmed or not?
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  SPEAKER_01: It creates karma within that dream time.
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  SPEAKER_01: It will affect the pattern until morning.
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  SPEAKER_01: No one is real or not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: You think there's a real reality and you'd like to know what it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you?
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  SPEAKER_01: You never can.
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  SPEAKER_01: If there is one.
• 1:37:17
  SPEAKER_01: The nature of a real reality is not able to be perceived by a sentient being,
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  SPEAKER_01: which are
• 1:37:29
  SPEAKER_01: trying to figure out what's real from what is not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next, is perception connected to the interpretation of whether a deity is wrathful or peaceful?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that perception connected to our karma?
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_01: I do not understand that question.
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  SPEAKER_01: The archetypes,
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  SPEAKER_01: they're not deities,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you're talking about the Tibetan pantheon,
• 1:38:05
  SPEAKER_01: the archetypes are created by multiple perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: And have from their own side
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  SPEAKER_01: a form,
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  SPEAKER_01: shape,
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  SPEAKER_01: energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are archetypes personifying certain energies.
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  SPEAKER_01: In light of this, I do not quite understand
• 1:38:45
  SPEAKER_01: How, the phrasing of your
• 1:38:47
  SPEAKER_00: question, could you try again?
• 1:38:51
  SPEAKER_00: Is perception connected to the interpretation of whether a deity is wrathful or peaceful?
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_00: The other part of the question was, is that perception connected to our karma?
• 1:39:17
  SPEAKER_01: Group karma.
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  SPEAKER_01: For instance, all people will perceive Tenrezig as peaceful.
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  SPEAKER_01: All people will perceive Paldenlamo as fierce.
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  SPEAKER_01: Group karma.
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  SPEAKER_01: Next.
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  SPEAKER_00: Other than humans, who else is attending your teachings?
• 1:40:06
  SPEAKER_01: Cat.
• 1:40:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's true, she's here for this one.
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  SPEAKER_01: A couple of things wandered in, but they wandered out again.
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  SPEAKER_00: At the moment, just a cat.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure some bugs and things that I'm not even noticing.
• 1:40:31
  SPEAKER_01: Rinpoche, when he taught, there used to be all sorts of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes there are deviners.
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  SPEAKER_01: Devon's active when I'm up there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Many things want teachings in Devon.
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  SPEAKER_01: Other places, not so much.
• 1:40:52
  SPEAKER_01: Today, not so much,
• 1:40:53
  SPEAKER_01: but it is the last day of Mercury retrograde,
• 1:40:56
  SPEAKER_01: and this has been a particularly technically buggy teaching,
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  SPEAKER_01: probably on more than one level.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:41:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are the rainbow-like textures and syllables that appear on surfaces
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  SPEAKER_00: with certain eye gazes?
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  SPEAKER_01: Karmic imprints.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yours.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
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  SPEAKER_00: When looking at mind as mind, I experience a quick in and out and sometimes I feel stuck there.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you recommend?
• 1:41:44
  SPEAKER_01: Stuck?
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  SPEAKER_01: Looking at mind as mind?
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  SPEAKER_01: I recommend you relax into it.
• 1:42:05
  SPEAKER_01: Allow it to mature and develop rather than trying to push the river
• 1:42:13
  SPEAKER_01: or make it be
• 1:42:14
  SPEAKER_01: a certain way you think it should.
• 1:42:19
  SPEAKER_01: Just keep returning your attention
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  SPEAKER_01: to the where rather than the what.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where you're thinking rather than what you're thinking.
• 1:42:38
  SPEAKER_01: Understand that you are not looking at something other than yourself.
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_01: Metaphorically, you are gazing into your own eyes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the seer is the seen.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_01: And the seeing creates the seer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just as the seer creates what is seen by the act of seeing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So relax into that without differentiating who looks from what is seen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Roji.
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  SPEAKER_00: One more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Earlier you mentioned the long body.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:43:43
  SPEAKER_00: What did you mean by that?
• 1:43:44
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Your form from beginningless through endless time as it changes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your long body.
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  SPEAKER_01: The shape you take as you move through life.
• 1:44:10
  SPEAKER_01: Short form of long body.
• 1:44:14
  SPEAKER_01: If you go far enough back in remembering past lives,
• 1:44:20
  SPEAKER_01: it fragments because of all the coming together and coming apart of all
• 1:44:26
  SPEAKER_01: the different bits that make up the ecology of an entity,
• 1:44:34
  SPEAKER_01: of someone who thinks they're an entity.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_01: The same into the future.
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  SPEAKER_01: There will be no bit of who you are now
• 1:44:53
  SPEAKER_01: in another hundred lifetimes.
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_01: Completely different.
• 1:45:02
  SPEAKER_01: And even though the memories may exist of some of it,
• 1:45:07
  SPEAKER_01: By the time you're trying to remember the past lives of all the bits
• 1:45:11
  SPEAKER_01: that make up you, it's infinite.
• 1:45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Longbody talks about the shape of that,
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_01: of the interconnectivity locally.
• 1:45:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that may be enough for you to chew on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your homework until the next class
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  SPEAKER_01: is to notice that you're making up
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  SPEAKER_01: the world you're walking through and see how you do that
• 1:45:53
  SPEAKER_01: while not abandoning common sense.
• 1:46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Just notice we're on perceptions here.
• 1:46:03
  SPEAKER_01: How you create your take on a situation.
• 1:46:10
  SPEAKER_01: And how you like to tell other people what you think is going on
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_01: in order
• 1:46:20
  SPEAKER_01: that they will follow your lead and share your take.
• 1:46:28
  SPEAKER_01: And how distressing it is when they won't.
• 1:46:38
  SPEAKER_01: Notice it.
• 1:46:39
  SPEAKER_01: Just notice it.
• 1:46:41
  SPEAKER_01: Don't do anything about it.
• 1:46:43
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to fix it.
• 1:46:44
  SPEAKER_01: Just notice how you create your own reality.
• 1:46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Without taking this to the extent of looking at fault,
• 1:46:59
  SPEAKER_00: although you create your
• 1:47:01
  SPEAKER_01: own reality, it is not your fault
• 1:47:07
  SPEAKER_01: You really don't have a whole lot of free will in it, eating your karma.
• 1:47:14
  SPEAKER_01: So no fault.
• 1:47:18
  SPEAKER_01: And someone who creates an unpleasant reality for themselves, it's not their fault.
• 1:47:27
  SPEAKER_01: There is no fault here.
• 1:47:32
  SPEAKER_01: No evil, no bad.
• 1:47:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just
• 1:47:43
  SPEAKER_01: So let's not fall into the fault game as we look at how we do this, okay?
• 1:47:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's a trap and a place to hide from noticing how it works.
• 1:48:03
  SPEAKER_01: Nge Wandi Nyur Duda
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  SPEAKER_01: Chichi
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  SPEAKER_01: Sala
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  SPEAKER_01: Goparsho.
• 1:48:29
  SPEAKER_01: Let us hope that technically tomorrow will work a bit better.
• 1:48:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's just question and answers,
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_01: but since you all probably are going to ask about Dzogchen, that's fine.
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_01: We may even continue some of this tomorrow if you broach the subject.
• 1:48:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'll see you then.
• 1:48:53
  SPEAKER_01: Remember,
• 1:48:53
  SPEAKER_01: should any of you wish to merge your practice with one of the yogis or yoginis,
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_01: and by adopting them and sponsoring their retreats,
• 1:49:05
  SPEAKER_01: it's cheap, pizza and a beer per month, then drop me an email about that.
• 1:49:15
  SPEAKER_01: And if any of you wish to offer Dana, you know where the PayPal button is.
• 1:49:25
  SPEAKER_01: If you were hearing this in a language other than English,
• 1:49:30
  SPEAKER_01: please also remember to offer Dana to your translator
• 1:49:35
  SPEAKER_01: because otherwise you wouldn't be hearing it in the language you wish to.
• 1:49:41
  SPEAKER_01: They're important to you.
• 1:49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Keep them encouraged.
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_01: And we are complete for today.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are offline.