Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #35 Tired Teens Commit Crimes
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- 0:05Speaker 1: This is the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Wilson,
- 0:08Speaker 1: where Luke and Susie and this is the podcast for
- 0:10Speaker 1: the time poor parent who just wons answers.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Now as adults, sus we've all been sleep deprived grumpy teens.
- 0:16Speaker 2: At some point where someone's asked us a question, we've
- 0:18Speaker 2: had nothing more than a grunt because for whatever reason,
- 0:21Speaker 2: we've been burning the midnight all these days. It's quite
- 0:24Speaker 2: different from when we were younger, because I hear that
- 0:26Speaker 2: a lot of teens are not going to sleep because
- 0:28Speaker 2: they're facebooking and tweeting and the devices are controlling bedtime time.
- 0:32Speaker 2: But whatever is the reason for the sleep not being there,
- 0:36Speaker 2: this is not just about a grumpy, grunting team the
- 0:39Speaker 2: next morning. In fact, the consequences could be significantly greater
- 0:44Speaker 2: than that. To talk us through from Happy Families dot com,
- 0:46Speaker 2: dot you, his name is doctor Justin Wilson.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Hello, how are you gay guys? Let's talk about these
- 0:51Speaker 3: grumpy teens.
- 0:52Speaker 2: We've been there each of this, but now we're parenting,
- 0:55Speaker 2: we're worried about the consequences a little bit more that
- 0:58Speaker 2: the stats are showing that it's not We're not just
- 1:00Speaker 2: selling about a grunt and a difficult team to deal with.
- 1:03Speaker 3: We're talking about crime levels justin This.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Is a really curious study that's just come out in
- 1:08Speaker 4: the last last couple of weeks really February twenty three,
- 1:11Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, and what their researchers have discovered is that
- 1:15Speaker 4: if you have a teenager who is always tired, they're four.
- 1:19Speaker 5: Point five times more likely to commit crimes.
- 1:21Speaker 4: As adults of adults as adults. So this was a
- 1:26Speaker 4: longitudinal study. The researcher, the research has collected the data
- 1:30Speaker 4: over thirty or forty years, so we're talking about a
- 1:32Speaker 4: very long study. All of this research was collected about
- 1:37Speaker 4: data as to how drowsy teens were, what kind of
- 1:40Speaker 4: backgrounds they were coming from, and all that sort of thing.
- 1:42Speaker 5: And then the researchers, after testing one hundred.
- 1:44Speaker 4: And one fifteen year old boys and we're looking at
- 1:48Speaker 4: teenage boys in the North of England, went back through
- 1:51Speaker 4: and found the records, the crime records from the Central
- 1:54Speaker 4: Criminal Records Office and how to look at which of
- 1:58Speaker 4: those original one hundred one kids had a criminal record
- 2:02Speaker 4: at age twenty nine. And what they did was just
- 2:04Speaker 4: looked at violent crimes and property offenses they weren't looking
- 2:07Speaker 4: at the little things, just the things that were worthy
- 2:09Speaker 4: of significant convictions. They found that seventeen percent of participants
- 2:14Speaker 4: had actually committed a crime by the age of twenty
- 2:17Speaker 4: nine in adulthood. And they found that there were a
- 2:20Speaker 4: couple of things that predicted it socioeconomic status. I'm sorry,
- 2:23Speaker 4: I hate saying it, but people who come from impoverished backgrounds,
- 2:28Speaker 4: the lower the socioeconomic status, the greater the risk factor.
- 2:32Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that.
- 2:32Speaker 4: People who are not wealthy are going to be criminals,
- 2:35Speaker 4: not by any stretch. What it says is it's a
- 2:37Speaker 4: risk factor because unfortunately, people from those poorer backgrounds struggle
- 2:43Speaker 4: at school, they struggle with often self control, they often
- 2:48Speaker 4: don't have the same opportunities. There's a whole lot of
- 2:50Speaker 4: structural stuff around that we don't need to go into that,
- 2:52Speaker 4: but it's definitely a risk factor. They also found that
- 2:56Speaker 4: early social adversity was another predictor of crime, but one
- 3:01Speaker 4: of the big predictors was daytime drowsiness. And what they're
- 3:05Speaker 4: basically saying is if your kids are really really tired
- 3:08Speaker 4: when they're at school, they're daytime drowsy, they end up
- 3:12Speaker 4: being inattentive their brains tend not to function as well,
- 3:17Speaker 4: they tend to exercise less self control, and fourteen years
- 3:21Speaker 4: later they're actually more likely to be involved in serious crime.
- 3:26Speaker 5: Wow.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Is that because?
- 3:28Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there's other outcomes from this, But is
- 3:31Speaker 2: it because of their learning in the formative years to
- 3:34Speaker 2: be that and therefore as adults, that's what they tend
- 3:37Speaker 2: to be.
- 3:38Speaker 3: What's the cause?
- 3:39Speaker 2: How does drowsiness during the daytime connect with adult crime?
- 3:43Speaker 4: Well, I think what we're actually looking at here, if
- 3:44Speaker 4: we were to link a chain, what we're saying is
- 3:46Speaker 4: daytime drowsiness is associated with poor attention.
- 3:50Speaker 5: That makes sense.
- 3:52Speaker 4: So it's not the drowsiness that's quote unquote causing crime. Rather,
- 3:56Speaker 4: daytime drowsiness is setting off a sequence of events.
- 4:00Speaker 5: If you're drowsy in the.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Daytime, you end up being inattentive at school. Poor attention
- 4:06Speaker 4: can be used as a proxy for poor brain function.
- 4:10Speaker 4: You know, you're not utilizing your brain, you're not thinking
- 4:13Speaker 4: things through, you're not exercising self control. And if you've
- 4:15Speaker 4: got a lack of self control and poor brain functioning,
- 4:18Speaker 4: you're at greater risk of making decisions that are dumb.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Yeah, So being maybe easily led.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Or being easily led as another great example of just
- 4:29Speaker 4: not paying attention to what's around and thinking through the
- 4:31Speaker 4: consequences of what you might do that. The take home
- 4:33Speaker 4: message is pretty simple. We need our kids to be
- 4:36Speaker 4: well rested. Sleep maybe one of the most How do
- 4:40Speaker 4: I say it, It's not a luxury item. You know
- 4:44Speaker 4: what you're like as an adult when you don't get
- 4:46Speaker 4: enough sleep. You wake up the next day you need
- 4:48Speaker 4: three barockas. You've got a headache all day. You're grumpy
- 4:51Speaker 4: and irritable.
- 4:52Speaker 3: You're not me, I'm roses, I'm smiling.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Absolutely made.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Even when you work from home, you stub your tough on,
- 5:01Speaker 4: toe on someone's lego and carry on. It doesn't when
- 5:05Speaker 4: we're tired, It doesn't predict good outcomes. Now, if you
- 5:08Speaker 4: have chronic tiredness because you're up every night gaming or
- 5:12Speaker 4: on social media or whatever it is that the.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Teenagers are doing.
- 5:15Speaker 4: When they say they're studying and you're getting four, five
- 5:18Speaker 4: six hours of sleep instead of the nine or ten
- 5:20Speaker 4: that they need nine and a half ish, then that's
- 5:23Speaker 4: going to lead to much worse outcomes. Simple, get the
- 5:26Speaker 4: kids to bed at a reasonable hour, get them up
- 5:28Speaker 4: at a reasonable hour so that you're in a good cycle,
- 5:31Speaker 4: and you'll usually find what's reasonable. Well, every family's different.
- 5:35Speaker 4: I want to be careful with what I say, Luke.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Well, let's get a more detailed description to that answer. Shortly,
- 5:39Speaker 1: it's the Happy Families podcast with doctor Justin Colson talking
- 5:42Speaker 1: about the potential consequences of teens not getting enough sleep.
- 5:46Speaker 6: More Shortly, family life is pretty tough going. Sometimes most
- 5:50Speaker 6: days are a struggle between strong willed children and frazzled parents.
- 5:54Speaker 6: And while no parent wakes up in the morning saying
- 5:57Speaker 6: today's the day I'm going to ruin everyone's lives, it's
- 6:00Speaker 6: sometimes feels like that by the end of the day.
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- 6:50Speaker 1: It's the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Coulson talking
- 6:53Speaker 1: about some recent research that showed the potential outcomes of
- 6:57Speaker 1: what happens when our teens do not get enough sleep.
- 7:00Speaker 1: It could lead to criminal activity in their adult life,
- 7:02Speaker 1: Doctor Justin, But what is a reasonable amount of sleep?
- 7:06Speaker 4: I try to get my kids to be in bed,
- 7:10Speaker 4: the older ones late teens, by about nine thirty or ten,
- 7:13Speaker 4: and the younger ones by about nine eight thirty or nine.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Some people think that's crazy, But let me tell you.
- 7:18Speaker 4: I get them up at around about five thirty or six.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Some people say, how do you get your teenagers out
- 7:23Speaker 4: of bed at five thirty or six?
- 7:24Speaker 5: Well, that's easy. I put them to bed at about
- 7:27Speaker 5: nine o'clock. How do you do that? Easy? I get
- 7:29Speaker 5: them up at five thirty.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Here's a cycle.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Yeah, we've actually pre teens are going to be interested
- 7:36Speaker 2: to see how tyson who's seven gets to that point
- 7:39Speaker 2: because he is.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Just naturally gets up. But gosh, yeah, four or five.
- 7:46Speaker 5: That'll change though.
- 7:47Speaker 4: Once Here's what happens. This is something that people don't
- 7:49Speaker 4: understand a lot about teenagers. We have this hormone in
- 7:52Speaker 4: our body called melatonin. Melotonin is the sleepy hormone.
- 7:57Speaker 5: If you can't get.
- 7:57Speaker 4: To sleep, often a GP will prescribe some melotonin too
- 8:01Speaker 4: you so that your body produces it a little bit
- 8:02Speaker 4: more melotonin and you feel drowsy and you're not off.
- 8:05Speaker 5: That's what we need. We need melotonin.
- 8:07Speaker 4: In adults and in children, we start producing that melotonin
- 8:10Speaker 4: around about the time the sun goes down. In adolescence,
- 8:14Speaker 4: they seem to produce it approximately two hours later. So
- 8:18Speaker 4: you know, when it's eight thirty and you're going to
- 8:20Speaker 4: say to the kids, would you just go to sleep?
- 8:23Speaker 4: I can't keep my eyes open because you know, once
- 8:25Speaker 4: you get past about thirty five, eight thirty is a
- 8:27Speaker 4: late night.
- 8:28Speaker 3: It's a big night.
- 8:29Speaker 5: If you're still going at ninety th that's it.
- 8:33Speaker 4: And so the teenagers, you know, we're saying that to
- 8:35Speaker 4: them at eight thirty because we're exhausted, but the melatonin
- 8:38Speaker 4: production is barely kicking in for them.
- 8:40Speaker 5: They've got another good couple of hours to go.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Now.
- 8:42Speaker 4: You combine that with the excitatory stimulation of a screen
- 8:45Speaker 4: and all the bings and buzzes and pops and whistles
- 8:48Speaker 4: and the messages and the notifications and the game and
- 8:51Speaker 4: whatever else, and their brain is on high alert. Their
- 8:54Speaker 4: body's already not producing enough melatonin in anyway, and they're like,
- 8:58Speaker 4: I got hours in me.
- 8:59Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to see yet. So we need
- 9:01Speaker 5: to actually be cognizant of that.
- 9:04Speaker 4: But encourage them, you know, dim the lights, get the
- 9:06Speaker 4: screens off, get them to bed early.
- 9:08Speaker 2: So am I if I'm picking up what you're putting down,
- 9:10Speaker 2: you're saying drug your teens with melotonin.
- 9:16Speaker 5: I'm not that kind of.
- 9:19Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what kind of screens your kids are
- 9:22Speaker 1: listening looking at that have bings, pops and whistles. But
- 9:27Speaker 1: it's good to know and good to be aware of
- 9:30Speaker 1: if you're in the middle of the teenage years, to
- 9:32Speaker 1: know there's something you can do if you're approaching them,
- 9:35Speaker 1: to start preparing and thinking about how the family life
- 9:37Speaker 1: style will work to ensure that teens can get enough sleep.
- 9:40Speaker 2: And when you fight with them over bedtime, you can
- 9:42Speaker 2: just say, look, I'm saving you from a life of crime.
- 9:45Speaker 5: Like your foreign house is more likely to not connect crime.
- 9:50Speaker 5: Go to sleep right now.
- 9:51Speaker 1: That's right, because if there's something teens connect with, its.
- 9:53Speaker 3: Facts, decisions that impact the future, that's right.
- 9:58Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Doctor Dustinkilson, thank you so much for
- 10:00Speaker 1: your time.
- 10:00Speaker 3: We really appreciate it.
- 10:02Speaker 1: And if you want some more information, any and all
- 10:04Speaker 1: of Justin's resources are available books, podcast programs at Happy
- 10:08Speaker 1: Families dot com dot au. Or if you want to
- 10:11Speaker 1: find out how you can have Justin come and speak
- 10:12Speaker 1: at your school or organization about this or any number
- 10:16Speaker 1: of topics relating to the wellbeing of your whole family,
- 10:19Speaker 1: go to Justinculson dot com