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Wait… What Was I Saying? ADHD in Real Life with Kristen Carder| 304 · Bomb Life

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone struggles to focus.
• 0:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone struggles with memory once in a while.
• 0:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone struggles with distractability or impulsivity.
• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a big difference between a typical human being, being tired or hungover and struggling and joking about like, oh, I'm sorry, ADHD.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like that next to someone who actually has ADHD and their lives are like debilitated because of it.
• 0:38
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• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: This episode, you guys, it's the perfect time for it.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking all about ADHD.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And we have had this conversation on this podcast several times.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've had different guests on.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just love learning more and more and more about the human brain.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: How to impact our health fitness and wellness and ADHD and how that affects our health and fitness and our relationships and everything and I know there's going to be a lot of you that will be able to listen to this episode and go, oh my god, I think that's me.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Holy crap, I never even considered that, or you might listen to go, yep, that's me totally know this already know this and then you're going to take all this information to just help better yourself and learn more and just keep growing and learning.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then some of you are going to listen and you're going to go, wow, that's my child or that's my sister or someone else close to you to you that you can really or your significant other.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: ADHD is very under diagnosed in females.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely more diagnosed and recognized in males, and I couldn't believe it.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Our guest today had said that most the average age for a female to be diagnosed is 38.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like what?
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've talked a lot about my own personal journey with us.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: several times.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're new to it, this is going to be the first time you're hearing about it, but if you're new to the podcast, I should say, but ADHD has been very real and very strong on me for a long time.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew something was different and off about me when I was younger and I got diagnosed.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say this in the beginning, the episode around 1920.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I really only acknowledged it and saw that it was even a problem because of the degree that I was going after, working in social work and just learning more about behavior.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh crap, I should get help.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm still in my parents insurance.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I should find a therapist and really start talking and diving into other things going out in my life too.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, I don't know if we're going to have like the second probably the second session.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think that I think it was the second session that I went to.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, so
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever seen a therapist before or talked about ADHD?
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever heard of that before?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What?
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: No?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not running around.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not some spas.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's what I thought.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I probably said that, too.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, that's not all what it is.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, okay.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we did all this testing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're talking cards with the ink plots on them, type testing, did all of it.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, along the hold, that was me.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I did have a period where I was on concerto.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: and it helped definitely help but there's a lot of side effects to it too and it just it wasn't me and I couldn't do it long-term and honestly I got pregnant just yeah just a lot of things like no and it wasn't for me and I had to learn coping skills and
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: and had a live a whole new life of, you know, not letting this take over.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So today's episode is all about this and you guys are going to really, really, and this is a perfect time because this is the time of year where we're like, okay, what's the next thing that I have to do?
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's going to happen in January?
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing for new years?
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what does next year look like for me?
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are my goals?
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in 80HD brain has a really hard time wrapping their head around goals?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What am I going to achieve?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What am I going to go after?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the next step?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And then executing it?
• 5:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a real thing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But the more you guys are educated on this and you can help those that you love or yourself, the stronger you're going to be.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have more tools on your tool about and in your toolbox to help you live your best life ever.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't have to be an excuse.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It can be something that helps move you forward.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So today we have Kristen Carter on.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You guys have to check her out.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's the host of I have ADHD podcast and a multi certified coach who's supported
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thousands of people with ADHD worldwide, Kristen's extensive experience working with ADHD years, began in 2012.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I asked her about her journey and I loved hearing all about her story, and she now leads a global community of adults with ADHD in her coaching program, focused.
• 5:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kristen lives outside of Philadelphia, and she has three sons of her own.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can go to her website, well, everything in the show notes too, but her website is super easy, www.ihaveadhd.com, and then go to slash about and you can learn even more, because we need to know.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need to know the signs, the symptoms, everything, and there is, yes, a lot that goes into ADHD, and you could have ADHD-like symptoms from hormones, perimedopause, metopause, other stress and anxiety going on in your life, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have it.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, there's a fine line about educating, learning, and truly having it, or, hey, is this a ride flight for something else going on in my life?
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what today's episode is here to help you kind of like figure out and separate, and then move forward to kind of love your best life.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm here to help you guys coach talk a little bit about the coaching program in the episode.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kristen is a coach too and she said one thing of like, I got choked up you guys.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I seriously got choked up in the episode.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you see the video, you can, you can see, but I kept it together on the mic, but she talks about coaching and how, you know, what a special and important job that we have and the wives that we hold in our hands and it's so true.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're someone who's just ready,
• 7:02
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• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to live another year like 2025 or 2024 or anything before that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do another year the same.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do another year in this body that I'm not happy with and I want to move forward.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to truly make change and you're like, I just don't know how book a call.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just get on a discovery call with me 15 minutes.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what plan is best for you.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: we never know until we're on that call and then we can move forward and I'm here to help and there's no shame and coaching and helping you really determine like this is my goal.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is my action plan.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is how I execute.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So always go to the show notes, you guys.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, everyone.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy the show!
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey everyone, welcome to the bomb life podcast.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Today we have Kristen Carter on the show, Kristen.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the podcast.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for having me.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, girl, I can't wait to dive into this conversation.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have talked about ADHD on this podcast several times.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was personally diagnosed when I think I was 19 or 20.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who would have been super helpful to know as a child.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just got kind of passed along.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm kind of, I'm very passionate about this.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I talk about this a lot in
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: my own therapy and very big I'd meant to health and I share that I have a therapist and all that so I'm saying that very open about it, but I just I love having conversation around this.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I could ever get sick and tired of talking about this.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, same.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do this all day every day and I will never tire of chatting about it, educating about it, discovering more and more and more about it.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like I feel like it's
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: The more I learned the less I know, you know, it's just like that kind of thing that you can just keep learning and learning.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's amazing.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you ever get frustrated with people that are like, oh my god, I totally have ADHD.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's like, and you know that and you're like,
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, you don't.
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I find myself doing that and I get frustrated because I'm like, I have no new for a long time.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you and I are not alike.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know it's different for everyone, but do you ever run into that and you're like, I mean, of course, especially, you know, now that it's like a trending topic on Instagram, on TikTok, like that kind of a thing.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so frustrating because to a certain extent, like ADHD doesn't create new problems.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: For my colleague, Ari Tuckman, he's like very well-known in the ADHD community.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he, he says ADHD doesn't create new problems.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It exacerbates the universal problems, right?
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so like, of course, everyone struggles to focus.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone struggles with memory once in a while.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone struggles with distractability or impulsivity.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a big difference between a typical human being.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Being tired.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: or hungover and struggling and like choking about like oh I'm sorry ADHD like that next to someone who actually has ADHD and their lives are like debilitated because of it and so it yes it's annoying it's I have one of my sons is diagnosed with OCD and it's very similar.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: know somebody we like oh my gosh I'm set I'm so OCD about being clean and like you have no idea what OCD is and how like for most people it is nothing to do with keeping a room clean.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: No and it's almost like insulting.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's very insulting.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's very minimizing of the actual struggle.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of these conditions.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, you're stressed in your multitasking.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're doing all these things at once.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, I still have 80, 80 white.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's totally agree with you.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Kristen, how did you get into this?
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: How did this become like what you podcast on because you're the host of the I have ADHD podcast.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're a multi certified coach and you've helped thousands of people with ADHD worldwide.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: How did this become what you do?
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a very interesting story.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was diagnosed at ADHD right around the same time that you were about age 21, which is actually very young for females.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, it's annoying that it took, you know, until college for me to be diagnosed, but actually the median age of diagnosis for females is 38 years old.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: most females are diagnosed much later.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So where are the lucky?
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're pretty lucky.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, did you find therapy like, well, where, like, did you know how did you get diagnosed?
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I had, I was like, I know I'm not normal.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know there's something going on.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know I got a family trauma and I sought out my own therapist while I was still on my parents.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: So smart at age 19.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like wow.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I did not have as good of a head on my shoulders at the age of 19, 20 that you did.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: My dad was diagnosed, which is kind of wild because he was diagnosed in the mid 90s, which is like, oh, hard for adults to be diagnosed, you know, back, back in the day.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was diagnosed after reading Ned Halwell's book, famed book, driven to destruction.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he read that book, went for diagnosis with diagnosed.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he just kept nagging me about it.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have ADHD.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know you have ADHD.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, whatever, you don't know me.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't know anything.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then I went to college and I was double majoring and I was just, I was drowning and I was struggling with depression, anxiety, disordered eating, totally chaotic mess.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so finally, you know, I was failing everything.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're actually like getting A's in some things and absent others, which, you know, is the typical ADHD pathway.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I finally consented and went and got a diagnosis.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: But again, I did not have as much self-awareness as it seems like you did at that time and I was just like great.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take a stimulant and it did change my life, but pills don't teach skills, pills also doesn't heal family trauma and dysfunction.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't teach you how to regulate your emotions and figure out how to be a human being.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so that came much much later.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: In my 30s, I owned a learning center in my hometown.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I worked with students who struggled in school.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was my job.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I loved it so much.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I kept attracting families whose kids had ADHD.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, this is so weird.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like all of these ADHD families keep coming.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there, I would help the kids and it was great.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the parents would come to me and be like, I think I have ADHD, too.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do I even do?
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is like 2013, 2014, like, there's not much out there.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just kept like researching, helping them, but continually looking for a resource for adults with ADHD.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there just wasn't much out there.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so after checking like the Apple podcast, 700 times, and being like, somebody's got to do this.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I could probably start a podcast.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've been researching all that.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been helping all of these kids probably start a podcast.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's like that tiny voice in the back of your head, where you're like, oh, you're angry about it.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're the one that's supposed to do it.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I started the podcast in 2019 and it just kind of took off.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And from there, I got certified as a coach.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: When I got certified as a coach, I was like, Oh, this is what I've been doing my whole life without people's consent accidentally touching everyone since I was like 11.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it really felt like coming home to what I was always meant to be doing.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I started my focus program in 2020.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's my group coaching program.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So now I only work in group setting.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's amazing because ADHDers are lonely and isolated and rejection sensitive and just feel like they're too much in every room that they enter.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so having a group of ADHDers who understand each other that is like a safe environment for them to exist as themselves is the best best best.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can completely relate to like what you're saying of like, oh my god, I've been doing this my whole life.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just have a busy person.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whoops.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just have a piece of paper to like validate that.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: But exactly, I can relate to your journey so much with like what I do with my training program too.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, isn't there something out there that's coaching people like with their nutrition along with their mindset along with their emotional skills and like bringing it all together?
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no one's doing this right?
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why is there someone doing this?
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can be a trainer or a nutritionist or a therapist or social worker, but like, why isn't anyone like bringing all of those elements together?
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can relate to that.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the group setting to, oh my god, huge.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It will blow like any other type of program like out of the water because people can relate.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: They feel validated.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't feel
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when you bring the same people together they understand that and I love it that people can do it now with the technology we have I know we're so lucky.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're so lucky.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know I totally agree and a lot of people kind of feel like well a whole group of ADHD or like it's not just going to be absolute chaos, but we have a lot of systems in place to make sure that it's not chaotic and truly, you know,
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And those need to be, those aren't can't be healed in isolation, right?
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have to be healed in the context of relationships.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's a ton of the work that we do inside of focused.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's so true.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to come back to focus because I want to hear and know like more all about it.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are some of the biggest myths that have heard, you know, over the years about ADHD that you wish that like people were like, I really wish you understood this better because that is not true.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: The biggest one that comes to mind is one that might make people a little bit upset.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to profit this by saying, if this makes you angry, I totally understand and you're allowed to be angry.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the biggest myth that I've seen across the board is that ADHD is a superpower for that ADHD is awesome.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, whoo, it gets me riled up.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So here's let me let me make it.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: My blood boil it.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: People with ADHD are incredible.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they can do so many amazing things and they've had to overcome so much and work most of the time twice as hard three times as hard as their peers.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for the people with ADHD who are also not struggling with maybe some anxiety, depression, learning disabilities, those kinds of things, you can really see how
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: how motivated and amazing and how much they can do, but there are a lot of people with ADHD who have a lot of co-morbidities like anxiety, depression, learning disabilities and it is really not
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: an additive to their life, being distractable, being an organized, having trouble with task initiation, struggling to regulate your emotions.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not an additive.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's actually really, really, really, really difficult.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, can it be overcome?
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, can we access support?
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, some of us can, some of us can, right?
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when you're like, so I worked with students who
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: The kids who came to me were privileged kids whose parents were parents who had money, parents who had access parents who were cognizant of their kids.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they're very talented to that.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, what about all of the other kids?
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: who didn't have access to a program like I was providing what about all of the people across the world who don't have access to health insurance or medication or any of that so can people with ADHD do amazing things absolutely but I never give ADHD credit I never want to give ADHD credit for the amazing things that I do.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So when someone says, oh, it's because you have ADHD, it's your super power.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, if that absolutely not, it's because I'm amazing.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I have been able to overcome all of this.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And ADHD, it's like in spite of ADHD, not because of ADHD.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is a hot take, though.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not everyone likes it.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I find that especially parents of children do not like that take about.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: because they want to be able to say to their kid, don't worry.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a superpower.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: But no child who is struggling and getting, like, getting in trouble at school, like, not able to do their homework, getting so much more corrected feedback than all of their peers, is actually going to, like, like, oh, cool.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: This makes me laugh.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're just like, I'm so fabulous.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so the way that I always like to talk about it is you're amazing.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have so many superpowers.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's so much good about you.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: You also have this thing that might make life a little bit harder or in some pieces a lot harder.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to work on that and like treat that.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that nothing stops you from becoming who you are meant to be.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's when you list off all of the things I kind of want you to go over a little bit about like what does an ADHD diagnosis look like because I know you mentioned like anxiety depression, you know, the task is difficult.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like can you give just like a good summary of what ADHD looks like I know what kind of redundant, but I think it might help people listening.
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I definitely sell their others or
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, the primary symptoms of ADHD are impulsivity and destructibility.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those two are like the primary symptoms.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So impulsivity would be like interrupting a lot, making rush decisions, jumping to conclusions, having very little patience, reacting really quickly, impulsively starting things, like impulsive purchases.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Impulsivity is a big issue, and then destructibility as well.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like a little known fact, it's not that you don't have
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: enough attention is that you have just as much attention as everybody else, but you can't regulate your attention.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you're not focusing your attention where it belongs or where like the task at hand.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like your attention is going everywhere.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So unable to like ignore irrelevant noises or conversations and like it can also be internal.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like difficulty blocking out your own thoughts.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: It can also be like you're distracted by your own emotions, so you feel a big emotion, and it's just so distracting.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like how many people with ADHD have gotten in a fight with their spouse before they left for work, and then like forget about working all day, because I'm so angry at my husband for being such an idiot.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now I can't get anything done.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're as a neurotypical person is able to self-sude and regulate and compartmentalize and just do the job at hand, right?
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of internal restlessness.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Time blindness is a big one.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like inability to just even conceptualize the passage of time.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is why we are always late and like forget about, I mean, how many times have I forgotten like my best friends birthday, my own husbands but like my kids, I'm just like, wait, it's your birthday.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: like, oh my gosh, those kinds of things like the time blindness is really difficult.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Emotional self-control is really top-so emotional disregulation.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: We feel things really deeply, and we don't have the ability to identify process self-suede the emotions.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Working memory is a big one.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like your memory.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I used to have parents when I was working with students and they'd be like, why can this kid remember every single detail of our trip to Disney from seven years ago, but they can't remember to turn their homework in.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's because working memory is the type of memory that you need just for a little bit to complete the task at hand.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So your husband calls or your spouse calls or your like, hey, can you pick up milk on the way home?
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, yes, got you, no problem.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, you're not going to pick up the milk because as soon as you get in your car, favorite podcast comes on.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably the bomb life podcast.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're just like viving with Melissa.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're just like the idea of picking up the milk is out the window.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: and you get home and your roommate's like, excuse me, where's the milk?
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh my gosh, I forgot.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, don't you love me?
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you care about me?
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: How could you for, I asked you to do it?
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said you would do it.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't even love me.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're just like, it's not that deep.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I swear, I just forgot.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's working memories like holding something in your mind long enough to complete the task.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like this cluster, cluster of symptoms that's like organizing problem solving and prioritization.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And those, I mean, this is so difficult because again, this is why I'm like ADHD is not a superpower.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is so debilitating.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine not being able to organize.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine not being able to problem solve.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine not being able to prioritize.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: What happens when you can't prioritize is you look at your list of tasks and you're like, where do I start?
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just gonna go on my phone.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: because I don't even know what to do.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so like we don't get anything done because we don't know where to start.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that can be really, really difficult.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like task initiation and task completion also.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like it's hard to get started on a task.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's also hard to finish a task.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's like pretty much an overview.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you can think of ADHD as being disorder of self regulation.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's really difficult to regulate my attention.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: My behavior and my emotions.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the three big things that we struggle to regulate.
• 24:34
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• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: God, that just sounded up beautifully.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I'm sitting here listening to Kristen and I'm just like, wow, she just described me, not all of it, a thousand percent, but there's so many things like you should see my desk and high operate.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is lists of sticky notes.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just sticky notes like everywhere and then I have like a task thing on my phone to like help me not remember, but then I also have a dry Resporder my desk too, and it's like to do and then I can like write any race and like it's just It's so much call that externalization.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm having to externalize everything because in your mind It's just pretty messy.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: It gets lost up there.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you're you're actually accommodating yourself really nicely.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're externalizing every
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely have to.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the other part too is the time, like two hours can go like that.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I've completed 50 tasks in that two hour span.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And nothing was like, I'm going to do this chunk.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then this chunk, it was like, I got from here and big and big and big and big and big.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the same thing too.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm always late, even when I try.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even when I try to be like early,
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is something that we dress often.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there is that comfort with being early because first of all, it's like it feels like a waste of time to be early.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like what am I do.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had seven minutes.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could have unloaded the dishwasher.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why am I doing this, right?
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So our brain is really resistant to being early.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Also, we anticipate being bored.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why am I just going to be bored?
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: boredom is the worst feeling I've ever felt in my whole life.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I've felt a lot of feelings.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like, why would I subject myself to that?
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think those are the two primary reasons why.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even when we kind of like set ourselves up to be early, then our brain fills in the time with like,
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, what do I just do these three things really quick before I leave?
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like you said the seven minute thing that was so funny because I'm like, I've had my kids or someone else be like, We all got like 10 minutes.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I can literally rule the world in 10 minutes.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could get so much done in 10 minutes.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: More than most people get done in an hour.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm like, do you realize that that's like two minute block here and a three minute block here?
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, like, like, do you know how much we can get done to let me two hours to give me a simple task?
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're holding laundry.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's something shiny over here.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm calling that I'm organizing like, oh, my brain.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I've, I'm so happy that I took action back, you know, early on because it did help.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I did get put on concerta.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was on, oh my god, I haven't said that word no long time and that helped me a lot through college.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I was not on it long.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: It definitely messed with appetite and with as much as that I train and that time I was doing ball to I was playing college ball.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I can't mess with my appetite.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you have to have access to your appetite.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I had to come off.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And oh, I got pregnant.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you could not be pregnant on that.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I came off, it was horrible.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't sleep.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was like 48 hours.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember the first night I came off.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes the second night.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was actually out of my system.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just laid there.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh, God, what is going on with me?
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's horrible.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I told my doctor and they're like, well, that's just right you and Ambien.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to take another drug.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And no, I don't think I headed all together either that you're giving me a lot of credit because I wasn't major in social work.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: That that's my major.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and so the classes that I was taking was waking me up.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: bit of light.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can we talk about relationships in ADHD?
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: My special interest.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because you have to explain to us.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sure everyone's like getting an idea of it right now is relaxing.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: But how does this impact?
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: close relationships.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: What have you seen with like even romantic, family, you know, siblings, parents, your own kids, friendships?
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you see this impacting us?
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so pervasive and I actually just finished writing a book about this topic.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I, I'm,
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, because this is something in the ADHD space that's not talked about a whole lot, right?
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: When we are waking up to ADHD, we're like triaging.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just got to keep a job.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just got to get to work on time.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just got to be able to like not dream my bank account every month.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like somebody helped me to triage, right?
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's important and it's wonderful.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But once we've kind of like unpicked that layer and we have the space to go a little bit deeper, we realize how much ADHD impacts all of our relationships because our symptoms are so apparent and they impact the people that we love, the people that we live with.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: right?
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if I am late, picking up my kid from soccer practice, and he's the last one there, waiting for his mom, just like, hello, do I even have a parent?
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's going to impact a relationship.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I, right?
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not that I'm speaking from experience.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just right.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it, please.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, having little kids like remembering all of the like the dress updates and helping them with their homework and like the amount that ADHD impacts our relationships is massive and then you think about me like a romantic partner where you're sharing money you're sharing a space.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: you're sharing a car, you know, all of the ways that our symptoms, our disorganization, our inability to prioritize our inability to manage our emotions, our inability to remember the very simple things that's going to impact our relationships heavily and listen to some
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: What I've noticed, and we surveyed 2,100 people with ADHD for the book, and so many people experienced relational dysfunction in their childhood.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 32:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: when we think about ADHD, it's heritable.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually as heritable as height.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So ADHD travels in families.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when you think about your parents or your parents' parents and the generations of ADHD and how that's the chaos, the explosions, the all of the different ways that we impact each other and then think about like how rare a diagnosis was.
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, for our parents in grandparents and definitely not even available to our great grandparents.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so how much that has impacted as generationally is wilds.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: We could it is just is what's crazy.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I see myself like when you talk about impacting the relationships like my kids are all in different sports and like different clubs sports.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: and like my youngest right now is in cheer.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's girl, that is a whole world.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I am not, I don't speak cheer.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I speak girl, I have three girls, but oh, I have three boys.
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I can, that's right.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we live on two different planets.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it, but you know, like the hair and the bow and the makeup and like, I don't just like,
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and I remove myself.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to do it.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: My daughter started playing club volleyball too because I was their coach and then I'm like, no, someone else needs to coach you.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just remove.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I drop off.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I go to the gym.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I go do other things.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pick up and with cheer.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing the same thing.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I drop you off.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: When do you need to be picked up?
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: What important things do I need to know?
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where when do I need to be?
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And everything else I remove myself.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I have realized that like my brain can only handle so much.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my kids don't understand that and I keep trying to explain that to them.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I have so much on my plate, I need to remove things that I can remove.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm paying for it here.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got you.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're gonna get everything done that you need to do.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if your dad wants to take the role that, like, but my brain can't handle every detail of your schedule.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, they have to have their hair done for specific way for every practice.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, practice, or practice.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and an outfit and some days it's twin day in some days it's black shorts with a blue top.
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no, you just tell me what you need from you that and but my kid gets upset at me because she's like, you don't care.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh, honey, no, it's not that I don't care.
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm not involved because I'm not one of the moms at the windows watching every single moment.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: My brain can only handle so much and I have a life.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't let my life be everything that you do and I can't live for cheer for you.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's the describing so perfectly like our limited capacity.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for some, I mean, it actually sounds like you're a very high capacity person, but you're also extremely busy and you recognize when you need to create space in your capacity.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there are some very low capacity aged years that can barely handle just like getting ready for the day, right?
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like that, that sucks it out of them.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it does vary person to person.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think what you're describing.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So perfectly is like, even just as a human that you all have a limited capacity.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we, at not everything can be our priority.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Your daughters well being is your priority.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: don't give a shit about your hair.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like any of you, but yeah.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's nice to know that I'm like not broken, you know, like this, oh, yeah, patients are so validating.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So validating and they really help.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I thought, I hope other people are listening and like they can relate.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: But and I have taken a long time to get where I'm at.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: years of therapy, a lot of reading, learning what tools work for me, what doesn't work for me, like perfect example, the only way that I survived college and sitting in like a lecture hall and like studying, and this was after a medication, like it couldn't be on anymore, I literally had pens and markers lined up on my desk.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: and would love it, but I would take notes.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would like do a section in one pen then I would have to switch to a fountain pen and then I would have to switch to like a marker pen and then I would highlight and pink and like I had to change something while I was sitting there.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are giving yourself novelty.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're giving your brain novelty and the ADHD brain craves novelty.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you about the tiny little dopamine hit when there's something new.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we have an interest-based nervous system.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're concerned about the things that we're interested in.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you may not have been interested in the classes.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you were interested in getting a degree.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You were interested in passing and doing well, right?
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so what you were doing, it was like a little hack for creating that novelty that wasn't really available to you in the lecture hall.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, so it's the same with like, if we are, if we have to do something boring, but we bring a fun snack.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, I have to do this shit.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like doing it.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So boring.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would rather die than do this, but I have to do this.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to eat a fun snack or I'm going to listen to this great podcast while I do the laundry or it's it's just like adding in the novelty to the things that feel like.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is a little dramatic, but I always feel like laundry feels like death.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, stitches feels like death.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the complicated things in my life are actually the most exciting and the things that I want to do.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: The simple and mundane and repetitive tasks.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the ones that I'm like, if I have to load the dishwasher one more time, I'm going to die.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It will incapacitate me.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's so adding novelty into that.
• 37:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's just like a little hack for the ADHD brain.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm glad I'm doing it and I'm up here.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're doing it.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look at you.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big gum chore.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, girl.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that is such like the sweet or the spice like I love cinnamon cinnamon gum.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like give me a little spice like a little hit, you know, and I totally agree.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little stem.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little novelty.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little like, you know, has been cannot stand it.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, if we are like in the car or at church, and he sees me reaching for the gum, he's like, please know.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: because I'm going to snap that gum.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I, that, I'm a snapper.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to shoot my mouth open and I DGAF.
• 38:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do not care.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: My, like, I am surviving here.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you, yeah, if you want me to get through it, like, I can't drive long distances without gum.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a must.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have packs of them everywhere in my life.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: But again,
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are things that I had to learn and like over time develop.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I just and I want people to know that like this doesn't happen overnight like you have to hear a podcast like this listen to a podcast learn know that you're not broken know the others are you know going through it and then how do you fix it you know how do I enhance my life.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and and learn what tools work for me.
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, emotional regulation.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I you've talked about this a couple times now.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've brought it up.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me like kind of like for dummies.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is a lack of emotional regulation?
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look like just so like we get like a fair bonus on this.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, lack of a so emotional regulation is your ability to identify, process, and suit your emotions.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Lack of emotional regulation looks like disconnected.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: looks like when you are feeling emotion, not really understanding what's going on.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Looks like when you are feeling emotion, not knowing what to do with it.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, because I don't know what to do with this big emotion in my body, I'm going to throw it out onto someone else.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's so uncomfortable in me.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't learned how to tolerate it, how to make space for it.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have to get it out of me and onto you.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna throw it onto someone else.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna yell, I'm gonna scream, I'm gonna send a nasty email, I'm gonna write a very fiery Instagram or Facebook post.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna get this out of me and put it somewhere else because I can't handle it on my own.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So in childhood, this looks like,
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: having parents that yell in scream, having parents that are using like physical violence, maybe like hitting or pinching or like some sort of like, uh, and again, ADHD travels in family.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we've got generations of traumatized folks who are really struggling.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: when I did the survey.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, we surveyed 2,100 people with ADHD.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I forget what the exact percentage was, but at least 80% said that they were not taught how to regulate their emotions as a kid.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's, as you know, with the degree in social work, like that is the primary job of a parent is to co-regulate with their child and see their child emotional regulation through co-regulation.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when you have ADHD or you are highly traumatized or both, and you have no access to that as a parent and so then you absolutely cannot teach that to your kid and so then the cycle is just repeating and repeating.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I learned emotional regulation when my kids were already 11, 9 and 5 and so I had to teach my kids emotional regulation when they were much later in their childhood journey because it was not something I was ever taught and I had no idea how to do it and so I was a yellow.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was a screamer.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was a pincher.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody was just like, oh, like I had to throw my emotions out on my kids.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when I finally learned to like self-south, own it, take responsibility for my own emotional experience.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then, and only then, was I able to co-regulate and help my kids learn the same.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to get that from anyone else.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyone else.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was something that came later for me, too.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still working on it.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the one area that I find it comes out in the most is like a romantic relationship.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I can, if I feel like I'm in a safe place, then I allow myself to be more emotional than I like.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why am I crying?
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so mad that I'm crying right now.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, that came with a lot of time and patients in practice and in learning tools to have like, how do I sit down?
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's separate facts from feeling are these facts that you're going off of right now or they just your feelings, you know, what's true.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's not and that has taken me.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, much work, but it's so interesting to learn how, like, how much this, like, goes hand in hand with this and, like, it's fascinating.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, like, the more I learn about ADHD, the more I'm like, do I even know anything about it?
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cause you're just like, more you learn, you're just like, this is fascinating and what I think is the most important thing is to understand how pervasive it is.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I like to say that ADHD affects us from the board room to the bedroom.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: there's no area of our lives that ADHD doesn't touch.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so even if you think about something as quote unquote simple, which is not simple, but as simple and as like human as emotional regulation, something that like every human needs to learn and yet we're developmentally delayed in this area because of ADHD and because of our family history or both and just like learning it as adults, that's why you know,
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: coaches like you and programs like mine, like we're I feel like we're teaching a generation of humans and helping a generation of humans who just like we're under-parented in a lot of ways and not everyone identifies as such and so that's fine.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm painting with a broad brush but oh I've coach thousands of y'all and we are under nurtured and under-parented.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I work with women that are like, I don't even know my mom not an
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you couldn't be more under-parented when it comes to nutrition and what to eat and how to love yourself and how your self-worth isn't connected to food or the number on the scale.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, the women that I work with that are in here, like, talk about being under-parented.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm like, no one taught them.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now they're here and that's like, they're all these broken little 12-year-old girls.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that it's such a...
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: just like coach to coach like it's such a high calling to have the privilege of like holding the the care of all of these humans that are just like really searching for safety and for nurture it is.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: a big responsibility to take it lightly.
• 44:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't, if you put yourself in this position, because, I mean, women and men, you know, they're hurting, you know, and I have male clients, too, and I'm like, oh, you're broken little five-year-old boy.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's okay.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to love and, and yeah, work on this and work and do some work, but know that you're not broken and there is hope, and it's never too late.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's one thing I wanted to get across it, like someone's listening to this and they're 45 years old.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you're like, Oh, you shouldn't be able to be aged.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not too late.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I just interviewed someone on my podcast that just came out this week.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was diagnosed at 55.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And his life is completely changed.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's 58 now.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure if I'm remembering quickly.
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And his life is completely changed.
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's never to.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have people in my program that were diagnosed in their 70s.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And God bless the clinicians that are willing to diagnose and treat people in their 70s because so many clinicians now are just like, yeah.
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: here's like what's the why you're but i'm like no you've got a lot of life to live we're living to 90 or 100 days like let's make the most of it yes yeah live your best life ever 100 percent
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so for people listening right now that can relate to this and they're like, oh my god, everything they talked about is me.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you suggest is the next step for them?
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that learning more about ADHD would be amazing.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that that is a great place to start.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like educate yourself on ADHD would be a great place to start.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have a list of symptoms on my website if that's interesting to you guys.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's I have ADHD.com.
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just learning more through like podcasts and how do I say this through credible creators as well would be great not everyone is credible so just use your discernment but like credible creators as well because the more that you learn about it the more you will either identify with the symptoms.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: or you won't.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so that will give you more information.
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then what I always encourage people to do is print out the symptoms from my website, circle the ones that you relate to, write down memories or stories of like, you know, exactly how this kind of worked out in your life.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Especially if you can remember in your childhood or you can ask like your parents or your people that knew you in childhood because if you do choose to go for a diagnosis, being able,
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Please understand that you're working memory sucks if you have ADHD.
• 47:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So just being like, Oh, yeah, I'll remember.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, you won't honey.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, you won't.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to write it down.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So write it down.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you decide to go for a diagnosis, they will ask you like, okay.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like, how have these symptoms played out in your life.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And did you in order to be diagnosed with ADHD have to have been symptomatic before age 16.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so making sure that like, and that's a good qualifier, because if not, like, maybe it's just paramount of pot, and I don't mean just because I am in it, right?
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know what you mean.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't mean that.
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean just, but like, maybe it is not actually an ADHD diagnosis to be appropriate.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what the clinician's job is is to make sure that it's an appropriate diagnosis.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I would say learning more is a great place to start.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that like of learning more to about like your childhood and asking your parents and stuff because I remember having to do that and asking my mom about certain things and she's like, well, I don't know, no, you were fine.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And no, I'm paid attention to me.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was literally just passed along, but I clearly remembered almost failing third grade.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fifth grade six grade was a struggle.
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honey.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember them like bringing my parents in.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I never went to parent teacher conferences.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: My mom had to come in because I was going to fail.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were just telling her like, she's not getting any of this.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I went to private school too.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they were like, this is the way this is the only way.
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she's just bad.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's so tough.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so let's grow up thinking we're the problem.
• 48:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because we're treated like the problem our lives, right?
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you can remember or even you might have access to your report cards like that would be great too.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So many, especially girls with ADHD that like on either progress reports or report cards is going to say like, she's really smart, but she talks too much in class or she's got a lot of potential, but she just needs to turn in her homework.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like those kind of comments are classic for ADHD.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember forging and trying to change the grades at one of our, I'm a quarter of our
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just survival.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would cheat.
• 49:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are just, those are survival skills.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I do not fall you for that at all.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I was bad.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've told I was so bad.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not in.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I've learned and grown and now we're having these conversations helping other people.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'm like the cycle.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can help their kids.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Kristen, what do you think your book is going to come out?
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like on one hand, I know it's going to help so many people on the other hand.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I kind of hope nobody reads it because there's a lot of personal stuff in there.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, hopefully nobody will read it and my team is like, actually, the publishers are like, actually, we want people to read.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, no.
• 49:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, when that comes out and you're doing a launch and you're pushing, please, we're going to have to have you back on.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would love it.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I would love it.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for that.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we will definitely support you.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So tell us again, how can we will find you follow you, give us all the things, and we'll put it in the show notes too.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have a free podcast.
• 50:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's that I have ADHD podcasts.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can find it wherever you listen to your podcast.
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So wherever you find bomb life, you can listen to I have ADHD podcasts.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We also just launched on YouTube, which is
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  [SPEAKER_00]: brand new territory for us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're someone that likes to have the visual component, come find us on YouTube at I have ADHD podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm on Instagram and like all the socials too.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So come hang out with me there and then my website is I have ADHD.com for free resources and also you can learn more about focus if that's something that's interesting to you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Kristen, this has been just incredible.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for coming on.
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait to have you back and then just keep me updated to about the book because we will like drop a little hints on our interest and stuff and let people know when it's coming as well.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, thank you so much for having me.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you.
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone stay safe.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Stay healthy until next time.
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• 51:23
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