Latest / Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast / Episode 67 - With Faye Roberts (Part 2)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: You are listening to Tom's Hirshprun's Podcast, where I provide
- 0:08Speaker 1: a look into the remarkable experiences of the most inspiring
- 0:11Speaker 1: people around Hirshprung's disease and sports. Hello and welcome to
- 0:39Speaker 1: episode sixty seven of Tom's Hirshbrun's Podcast, where I am
- 0:43Speaker 1: once again joined by Fay Roberts. We're going to do
- 0:47Speaker 1: part two of your episode part one very much going
- 0:51Speaker 1: through your entire story from the beginning right through to
- 0:57Speaker 1: present day, and this episode we're going to talk about
- 1:00Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit different, So we're going
- 1:02Speaker 1: to talk about the impact of the Hirshbrungs. We're going
- 1:06Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit of plans for the
- 1:10Speaker 1: future that we've been talking about a little bit as well,
- 1:13Speaker 1: and of course dogs. So Faye again, welcome, welcome back
- 1:18Speaker 1: to the podcast. Thank you well, thanks again so much
- 1:22Speaker 1: for coming on. And I know you wanted to talk
- 1:25Speaker 1: a little bit more about the impact of Hirshbrungs for you,
- 1:32Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about it in the
- 1:34Speaker 1: first episode. Would you like to elaborate a little bit
- 1:38Speaker 1: as well.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I guess the impact of hirshbrings as a
- 1:43Speaker 2: child if we separate child to adult. Yes, I had
- 1:49Speaker 2: an education, but I would say it was limited and
- 1:54Speaker 2: I still managed to go to school. I still had
- 2:00Speaker 2: some education, you know, enough to do diploma, a couple
- 2:04Speaker 2: of diplomas actually in college and then moving on to
- 2:09Speaker 2: do a social work degree. You know, I find I
- 2:14Speaker 2: find studying and concentration for long periods of time difficult,
- 2:21Speaker 2: but it's it's definitely doable, you know, put your mind
- 2:23Speaker 2: to anything, it's definitely doable. Career wise, as as an
- 2:29Speaker 2: older adult now it's still difficult. Mm hmm. It's still
- 2:36Speaker 2: very much a challenge. But I think as a society
- 2:39Speaker 2: and within management level, we are getting better with reasonable adjustments.
- 2:47Speaker 2: You know, the government Access to work scheme which is
- 2:51Speaker 2: really beneficial. They're easy, just make an application, they assess you.
- 2:57Speaker 2: And so for me sitting at a desk or all
- 3:00Speaker 2: day and lack of coll because of all the surgery
- 3:05Speaker 2: particuarly twenty nineteen, I've got no care at all, and
- 3:10Speaker 2: so acts sort of referring to access to work from
- 3:13Speaker 2: the government, they supplied me with a standing up desk
- 3:18Speaker 2: and a chair, a decent chair to sit at all day.
- 3:22Speaker 2: So that's that's real positive that you know, as sight
- 3:26Speaker 2: seeing as a government, we're getting better, we are getting
- 3:31Speaker 2: much much better. And I guess, I guess out in
- 3:36Speaker 2: the community from an impact of hers brands that's touch
- 3:41Speaker 2: upon disabled toilets, which is to be and my bonnet,
- 3:47Speaker 2: and they're not great at all. They don't accommodate people
- 3:55Speaker 2: with stonemas or an ace for that matter. And you know,
- 4:01Speaker 2: if I would have real, real struggle to do to
- 4:07Speaker 2: flush use my ace and to the flesh out of
- 4:09Speaker 2: my battle out and about the community, it's really really difficult.
- 4:14Speaker 2: There's lack of there's no shelf and disabled toilet sable
- 4:17Speaker 2: toilets are absolutely disgusting nine times out of ten. Yeah,
- 4:22Speaker 2: they're just not great. And it's disabled toilets for Stoneers
- 4:29Speaker 2: that doesn't have to cost the earth. It's literally a hawk,
- 4:35Speaker 2: a shelf and a mirror. That's it. You know, we're
- 4:39Speaker 2: talking fifty quid, yet we're not talking thousands. And there's
- 4:46Speaker 2: just there's just a lack of and I want to
- 4:51Speaker 2: say a lack of responsibility from from these public toilets.
- 4:57Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a real beer upon it. So I'm
- 5:05Speaker 2: just literally thinking of the whole life circle, if you like,
- 5:11Speaker 2: and how it impacts from a Herschman's point of view. So, yeah,
- 5:18Speaker 2: work is definitely doable. Access in the community is doable,
- 5:23Speaker 2: but you've got to search for a decent toilet or
- 5:29Speaker 2: plan your day around eating or not eating. In my case,
- 5:36Speaker 2: relationships should be talking about relationships. I've never had an
- 5:40Speaker 2: issue really, you know, even as a teenager young twenties,
- 5:48Speaker 2: I had a relationship and I had a stonema by then.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Actually it was never an issue whatsoever. I lived my
- 5:58Speaker 2: twenties team age, teenage years and twenties. I went out
- 6:03Speaker 2: and I got absolutely paralytic on a number of occasions. Yeah,
- 6:09Speaker 2: given my parents a bort of extra gray hairs, and
- 6:14Speaker 2: so we definitely lived my teenage years mainly throughout alcohol
- 6:22Speaker 2: on a weekend. When I went to college, it was
- 6:26Speaker 2: so that side of things is definitely normal. I would
- 6:33Speaker 2: say alcohol. I think like my hangovers were Whether I
- 6:37Speaker 2: drank more than my friends, I'm not sure, but anyway,
- 6:40Speaker 2: remember no, I think my hangovers lasted longer and were
- 6:47Speaker 2: more intense, and so hangovers the next day, especially if
- 6:53Speaker 2: you're vomiting, I think it's worse than the average Joe
- 6:58Speaker 2: blocks and it definitely lasted longer. Yeah, you know. Other
- 7:07Speaker 2: than that, you know, I lived my life as any
- 7:11Speaker 2: other normal twenty year old. I did a skydive, I
- 7:16Speaker 2: went on holidays, I did long haul holidays, even traveled
- 7:20Speaker 2: to the Maldives, and it was fine. I just you know,
- 7:25Speaker 2: the traveling to the Maldives was like eighteen hours because
- 7:27Speaker 2: we had a bit to do a stopover in Turkey.
- 7:32Speaker 2: So I just managed what.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Sorry, there you go on, go on.
- 7:42Speaker 2: And so I just managed my diet a couple of
- 7:48Speaker 2: days before, really light meals and just literally light snacks
- 7:54Speaker 2: throughout the flight rather than a big meal. And because
- 7:59Speaker 2: for me, I would need to have flushed on the flight,
- 8:01Speaker 2: and that's no girl, No, no, we don't want to
- 8:04Speaker 2: be doing that.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I can't imagine they had Stonma friendly toilets, you know,
- 8:08Speaker 1: several thousand feet.
- 8:09Speaker 2: In the air. No, no, not at alls. We don't
- 8:12Speaker 2: want to be doing that. But it's doable. Yeah, it
- 8:17Speaker 2: is absolutely doable.
- 8:19Speaker 1: I think that's really good to hear, especially I have
- 8:21Speaker 1: a lot of listeners who are new Ish moms and
- 8:26Speaker 1: dads who maybe have children who are you know, babies
- 8:31Speaker 1: or certainly children under the age of four or five,
- 8:34Speaker 1: and to know that in Part one obviously going through
- 8:38Speaker 1: everything that you went through, you still live quote unquote
- 8:43Speaker 1: normal life is fantastic to hear. And you know the
- 8:48Speaker 1: fact you can still go out drinking, you can still
- 8:52Speaker 1: you go on long haul flights. You can go. But
- 8:54Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's just preparation being really really
- 9:00Speaker 1: important and you just have to plan ahead more than
- 9:04Speaker 1: the average person.
- 9:05Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, absolutely, top tip. Share you still
- 9:10Speaker 2: supplies throughout all the suitcases and even better, put them
- 9:15Speaker 2: in your luggage and say you have knowledge with you, yes,
- 9:20Speaker 2: and yeah, I'll take extra.
- 9:26Speaker 1: So another thing that we share a mutual love, I guess,
- 9:31Speaker 1: is of dogs. I've talked a little bit on this
- 9:34Speaker 1: podcast before about my dog by dog that I look after,
- 9:40Speaker 1: a spaniel, a very energetic spaniel who loves running and
- 9:44Speaker 1: tennis balls mainly. But you are also a lover of
- 9:48Speaker 1: dogs as well. Would you like to share a little
- 9:50Speaker 1: bit about your dog?
- 9:52Speaker 2: I am, yeah, so I have. I've always had a
- 9:56Speaker 2: dog as a child, grown up, always had a dog
- 10:01Speaker 2: or dogs, and as the family within the family home
- 10:05Speaker 2: and growing up by you know, looking for walks and
- 10:09Speaker 2: and did the basic care of dogs as as I
- 10:13Speaker 2: grew up. And my love for Spaniels. Coca Spaniels came
- 10:19Speaker 2: as my grandmother had two Cox Spanuels who absolutely mental
- 10:23Speaker 2: that they were berserk, and they served so clever. So
- 10:30Speaker 2: I always said, you know, when I've moved out, I
- 10:33Speaker 2: want my own coc Spaniel. And yeah, I've always had
- 10:38Speaker 2: a real passion and love for dogs.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Really.
- 10:41Speaker 2: I went to do a diploma and animal car I'm
- 10:47Speaker 2: leaving school, and then I did dog reaming thereafter, and
- 10:51Speaker 2: I set up the business for about ten years, which
- 10:55Speaker 2: was you know, we did really well actually, and and
- 11:00Speaker 2: then I met my husband and I moved about half
- 11:04Speaker 2: an hour away from my hometown to my husband's new
- 11:10Speaker 2: property as he he just bought it, so it made
- 11:13Speaker 2: sense for me to move down here. And I found
- 11:17Speaker 2: that I was just traveling half an hour forty minutes
- 11:21Speaker 2: just a green one dog, and so I, yeah, seize
- 11:25Speaker 2: the business. Really, when I look back, I yeah, regret it,
- 11:29Speaker 2: but it is what it is. And then obviously I
- 11:32Speaker 2: went to do my social degree middle life crisis. Yeah,
- 11:42Speaker 2: but still dogs has been my passion and my interest,
- 11:45Speaker 2: my everything. Really. You know, when I was in and
- 11:50Speaker 2: out of hospital, even on my day releases, my mom
- 11:52Speaker 2: would bring the family dog down for it to sit
- 11:55Speaker 2: on my knee and she was only a little laser
- 11:57Speaker 2: rapsodes so when yeah, yeah, shared on McDonald's chips and
- 12:03Speaker 2: what not, and yeah, so dogs has always been a
- 12:07Speaker 2: massive part of my life. Really since one of the
- 12:13Speaker 2: last year I have done my scent detection instructors course.
- 12:18Speaker 2: My hope and my dream is to probably leave social
- 12:22Speaker 2: work altogether. I'm focused on dog training with hydrotherapy for dogs. Yeah,
- 12:33Speaker 2: that's the the ten year goal if you like, because
- 12:36Speaker 2: it's a lot of money to set it up. Yeah,
- 12:40Speaker 2: I watched this space in that sense.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Well, that would be fantastic. And I know that your dog,
- 12:47Speaker 1: Mabel is also a therapy dog. She is.
- 12:49Speaker 2: So Mabel is three years of age now and I
- 12:53Speaker 2: got assessed at ten months old, which is they need
- 12:56Speaker 2: to be ten months to be assessed. Basically some really
- 13:00Speaker 2: good socializing and basic obedience training and yeah, and as
- 13:07Speaker 2: long as they're confident with loud noises, busy environments. They
- 13:11Speaker 2: like humans first and foremost. Yeah, it's quite easy to
- 13:16Speaker 2: train your dog to be a therapy dog. Really, they
- 13:22Speaker 2: needed they need to be well socialized. I can't empathize
- 13:27Speaker 2: that enough. They need to be well well socialized and yeah,
- 13:32Speaker 2: she's Mabel is my absolute world. She is. She's spoilt, rotten,
- 13:39Speaker 2: Yeah she's. And I guess you know, even during the
- 13:43Speaker 2: pancreatic attacks, and she knows. She will know I'm having
- 13:49Speaker 2: a bad day before I even realize. She'll come and
- 13:52Speaker 2: sit sit next to me, or she'll come and sniff
- 13:55Speaker 2: my neck, which tells me that my blood shogs are dropping. Well,
- 14:00Speaker 2: yeah she is. She is such a special dog and
- 14:04Speaker 2: real her intelligence is just it's off for scale.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Just yeah, that's fantastic. And I think again, I just
- 14:15Speaker 1: go back to sort of spaniel. I look after I
- 14:18Speaker 1: notice that there are a lot of spaniels that are
- 14:20Speaker 1: very very intelligent. They do notice things, like you said before,
- 14:25Speaker 1: you do. They notice that if you know, if you're
- 14:28Speaker 1: not feeling too well, they'll come and sit right next
- 14:30Speaker 1: to you or squish right next to you. They'll notice
- 14:35Speaker 1: times as well. Is one thing. I mean, my dog
- 14:40Speaker 1: is a big lover of football, and she'll know it's
- 14:44Speaker 1: three o'clock when she'll sit by the telly at five
- 14:46Speaker 1: to three waiting for the games to start. So she'll
- 14:51Speaker 1: come in from the garden and wait for the games
- 14:52Speaker 1: to start. But yes, they are. They are very very intelligent,
- 14:57Speaker 1: and I think there's there's quite a few people who
- 14:59Speaker 1: listen that there are big lovers of dogs that will
- 15:03Speaker 1: will very much share your sentiment on that.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Yeah, so at three o'clock, the sun will be shining
- 15:10Speaker 2: into your house at a certain point, and that creates
- 15:13Speaker 2: a special odor. So it's not the time, it's the
- 15:17Speaker 2: odor that they can read.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Ah, I didn't know that. I just thought that, you know,
- 15:22Speaker 1: soccer Saturday comes on. She hears soccer Saturday and she goes, yeah,
- 15:25Speaker 1: I love I love this. I'll sit here in front
- 15:28Speaker 1: of it.
- 15:28Speaker 2: It should be associating the sound of soccer and where
- 15:32Speaker 2: the sun comes through your house will have a specific odor.
- 15:36Speaker 1: I didn't know that. This is what I love doing
- 15:38Speaker 1: these podcasts. I learned so much about so many things.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Fantastic and just sort of the final So I guess
- 15:50Speaker 1: five ten minutes of this, of this, of this one
- 15:52Speaker 1: of this podcast. We both attended the Hirshbrung's conference. Would
- 16:01Speaker 1: that be a few weeks ago now, of the twelfth
- 16:04Speaker 1: of February, And I think there was there's a lot
- 16:09Speaker 1: of speakers and a lot of useful information just as
- 16:16Speaker 1: a whole I mean, I know I've summed it up
- 16:19Speaker 1: a little bit on my Instagram, but how would you
- 16:24Speaker 1: sort of sum up the whole the whole day.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very beneficial and it was lovely to
- 16:31Speaker 2: come into a room together for more walks of life,
- 16:36Speaker 2: but with one common theme of Hirshbrungs, whether it's be
- 16:40Speaker 2: a parent or a child, grandchild, whatever, and yeah, and
- 16:46Speaker 2: there is the there was a clear difference, if you like,
- 16:53Speaker 2: in there were there was people in that room that
- 16:58Speaker 2: had had the diagnosed of Hershbrungs, being through the fight
- 17:02Speaker 2: to get to the other side and got the T
- 17:04Speaker 2: shirt if you like, and actually doing really really well.
- 17:09Speaker 2: And there were also a small group that were it
- 17:14Speaker 2: was almost that that Robiting had like feeling and I
- 17:19Speaker 2: just for me, it was it showed that actually we
- 17:23Speaker 2: are lacking some form of support group for Hershbrungs. And
- 17:30Speaker 2: again coming from North Wales but from the Northwest, you know,
- 17:35Speaker 2: we're in the middle of the country and it needs
- 17:37Speaker 2: to be a nationwide support for kit and parents who
- 17:43Speaker 2: are going through the diagnosis stuff of Hirshbrungs and how
- 17:47Speaker 2: to manage it, whether that's some surgery or wash out
- 17:51Speaker 2: or fiber controled diet, whatever that may look like for
- 17:56Speaker 2: that individual. It's yeah, it's just about wrapping your arms
- 17:59Speaker 2: around these people who are completely lost in the word
- 18:03Speaker 2: of the Hirshbruns diagnosis. And that's something definitely that we're
- 18:10Speaker 2: having conversations with sickly willed hay to be able to
- 18:14Speaker 2: open up some form of support group, whether that's you know,
- 18:19Speaker 2: two events a year, whether we go and have a
- 18:22Speaker 2: picnic in a park in the Northwest, which is you know,
- 18:25Speaker 2: the middle of the country. Yeah, watch this space.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think the one sense I got is
- 18:34Speaker 1: it's very much the same that the if we if
- 18:37Speaker 1: we take I know, the whole room wasn't the whole community.
- 18:42Speaker 1: There are lots of people that I know that you
- 18:44Speaker 1: couldn't attend or didn't attend for one reason or another.
- 18:48Speaker 1: But the general consensus in the room was that, you know,
- 18:52Speaker 1: there's lots of good things happening. There's lots of the
- 18:56Speaker 1: stories and experiences being shared, but almost crying out for
- 19:03Speaker 1: a charity. And I know we've mentioned a little bit
- 19:05Speaker 1: before about Chance and about the great work that was
- 19:11Speaker 1: done there, and now that's kind of gone and it's
- 19:14Speaker 1: left a bit of a void, and it's all about Okay,
- 19:20Speaker 1: everybody sort of wants or everybody has spoken to want
- 19:24Speaker 1: something there, and it's now really a case of okay,
- 19:31Speaker 1: what do we do and how do we move it forward.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I know you've mentioned there just about you know, trying
- 19:38Speaker 1: to start off simple and couple of thems a year
- 19:44Speaker 1: in a park, you know, you know, not looking at
- 19:47Speaker 1: things that cost the earth. We're not looking at hiring
- 19:49Speaker 1: out great big conference centers or like they had an
- 19:53Speaker 1: old hay and hospitals and and things like that. But
- 19:57Speaker 1: I think having that sense of of community and I
- 20:02Speaker 1: think we both know that having a community online is
- 20:06Speaker 1: different to having a community face to face, and I
- 20:10Speaker 1: think having that the online community I think is growing
- 20:14Speaker 1: and is going well, but having that face to face
- 20:18Speaker 1: meet up I think is something that's really really important.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Yeah, to watch the space. We are definitely having conversations
- 20:28Speaker 2: and I guess if anyone's got any suggestions ideas about
- 20:34Speaker 2: setting up a little bit of a support group with us,
- 20:37Speaker 2: feel free to contact with Tom.
- 20:38Speaker 1: And I mean there is a kind of Facebook group
- 20:46Speaker 1: that has been set up by Ellie who's there at
- 20:50Speaker 1: the conference, and she's very good at social media, she's
- 20:53Speaker 1: way better than I am, so she said it all up.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But yeah, so if anybody wants to join group, then
- 21:02Speaker 1: feel free as people sharing some stories, sharing some ideas,
- 21:05Speaker 1: and if you have any ideas. I mean, I think
- 21:08Speaker 1: we've talked before as well and were kind of open
- 21:12Speaker 1: to all ideas. I mean, there isn't really a kind
- 21:16Speaker 1: of I guess they're sort of set in stone structure
- 21:23Speaker 1: or it's at the very preliminary stages. So I think
- 21:28Speaker 1: if anybody wants to help coordinate, help to help to
- 21:36Speaker 1: facilitate that. But I think, like we've said, having that
- 21:40Speaker 1: one singular voice I think would be spokesperson, chairperson, whatever
- 21:47Speaker 1: it might be, I think would be really beneficial. But
- 21:51Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily have to be a charity, I don't think,
- 21:54Speaker 1: does it.
- 21:55Speaker 2: No, No, definitely, just as literally a support grip. We
- 21:58Speaker 2: can do super bands, yeah, you know within mid Wales,
- 22:03Speaker 2: mid UK. Well, we can do is zoom calls.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yes, that's another really good idea.
- 22:11Speaker 2: For two hours and we get a guest speaker to
- 22:13Speaker 2: come in for one hour and and we we chat
- 22:17Speaker 2: and support each other the last hour. That could potentially
- 22:23Speaker 2: work or a make sure of both.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you said you've done a little bit
- 22:27Speaker 1: in terms of the Zoom support groups and you found
- 22:29Speaker 1: it really beneficial. Yeah, so I think, yeah, something like that.
- 22:36Speaker 1: You know, even if we did just as a rough
- 22:38Speaker 1: idea of zoom calls once a month and events twice
- 22:42Speaker 1: a year. I'm not saying it has to be, but
- 22:44Speaker 1: just as a rough guide something like that, I think,
- 22:50Speaker 1: because I think the need is very much there, isn't it.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, So, yeah, anyone got the ideas suggestions
- 22:59Speaker 2: equally if if you are interested in that, let's see
- 23:02Speaker 2: what if there is any interest, and you know, we
- 23:04Speaker 2: could just be waffling on here and no one, no
- 23:09Speaker 2: one really wants to join in. So yeah, if you
- 23:12Speaker 2: are interested in either event a zoom call or event
- 23:17Speaker 2: in a park with picnic, bring the family, bring the kids. Yeah,
- 23:23Speaker 2: in the summer, that'd be nice. Yeah, any interest, let
- 23:27Speaker 2: us know.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Fantastic. No, I think that's that's wonderful and a great,
- 23:32Speaker 1: great sentiment to finish on. I just want to say
- 23:35Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on to do your
- 23:38Speaker 1: your second part, and it's a little bit shorter than
- 23:41Speaker 1: the first part, but thank you ever so much for
- 23:44Speaker 1: your time. And yeah, hopefully well the next time we meet,
- 23:48Speaker 1: we'll have a we'll have a support group. We'll have
- 23:51Speaker 1: something up and running well.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Perfect.
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