Latest / Dishing with Stephanie's Dish / Rebecca Blackwell
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- 0:15SPEAKER_01: Hello, everybody, and welcome to Dishing with Stephanie's Dish.
- 0:18SPEAKER_01: I'm Stephanie Hansen.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: You are here at the podcast that talks to foodies,
- 0:22SPEAKER_01: cookbook writers,
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: and today we have,
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: I would say,
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: all three plus more.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: We have Rebecca Blackwell.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: She is a recipe developer.
- 0:31SPEAKER_01: She is on the verge of releasing her Let's Get Lost, the cookbook.
- 0:35She is a Substack writer who has a Substack newsletter called
- 0:39Let's Get Lost.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: She also is starting and launching the Lost Supper Club.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: and has been out in the space.
- 0:47SPEAKER_01: One of the things about Rebecca that intrigues me,
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: not the most because you're just a nice person,
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: but beyond that,
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: you live in an RV.
- 0:54SPEAKER_01: You kind of upended your life,
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: sold your worldly possessions,
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: and bought a pull behind,
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: and you and your husband travel all over the United States in your RV.
- 1:04We are talking right now in your RV,
- 1:06which I know you've got a good cookbook shelf.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: I see it behind you.
- 1:09SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the show, Rebecca.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me, Stephanie.
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy to be here.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: Me too.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: So for people that maybe aren't familiar with your story,
- 1:18can you talk about how you decided to just chuck it all and get
- 1:22into the RV?
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:25So we had three children,
- 1:28and when our youngest was about seven,
- 1:30we decided that we wanted to...
- 1:33work towards getting to the place where we could work from
- 1:35anywhere in the world by
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: the time all of our kids were graduated.
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: And so our youngest was getting ready to go off to college in 2019.
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: And we had done it.
- 1:46We were both working virtually and we could work anywhere where
- 1:50there was an
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: internet connection.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: And so our initial plan was that we were going to
- 1:55um just rent airbnbs in various places for you know three
- 1:59months or six months or
- 2:00whatever at a time so some friends of ours in southern
- 2:02california were heading off
- 2:04to europe for a couple of months and asked us to come house sit
- 2:07and we were like
- 2:08great this will be a great test run for how this works and we
- 2:12loved living and
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: working in a new place but we hated living in somebody else's home
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: And so we weren't sure what we were going to do about that.
- 2:21And we met up with some old high school friends while we were
- 2:24there that lived in an RV.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: And it was like the answer to all of our problems.
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: We had never considered living in an RV.
- 2:31We had never in our entire lives spent one night in any kind of
- 2:36a camper of any kind.
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: We're just not the camping kind of people.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: Um, but we went home from that trip and, um,
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: Within five months,
- 2:46we had sold our house and bought a fifth wheel RV and moved
- 2:51ourselves into it.
- 2:52So the first night we ever spent in a camper,
- 2:55we had already sold the house and bought our RV.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: So did you feel brave doing it at the time?
- 3:04You know,
- 3:04we just felt very exciting until the night we closed on our house.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: And then I got a little freaked out.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: Understandably.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: What have I done?
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: But,
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 3:16the first night we we lived in Colorado and we drove we closed
- 3:21on our house on a
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: Monday and we drove to Katy,
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Texas to pick up the RV on a Tuesday and picked it up on Wednesday.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: And that first night in the camper, I wasn't worried at all.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: It instantly felt like the right decision.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: We felt at home in it almost immediately.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we really haven't looked back.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: We we say that we'll keep doing it until we get tired of doing it.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: But so far,
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 3:48it's been almost five years and we're not anywhere close to
- 3:52being ready to stop.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: So.
- 3:53What I think is kind of hilarious about you in particular is
- 3:56you have this sort of
- 3:57SPEAKER_01: idea of who might be in an RV park.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: And I've been in a lot of RV parks.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: And you're,
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: I don't know about your husband,
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: but for sure you are like this type A,
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: organized,
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: hyperproductive person.
- 4:10person who's doing all this work from an rv park i mean your
- 4:14substack newsletter
- 4:15alone with let's get lost kind of focuses on the rv living
- 4:20aspects and the travel
- 4:21aspects but also recipes and then as if that wasn't enough
- 4:25you've launched the lost
- 4:26supper club that just launched what made you decide you needed
- 4:30yet another outlet
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: because you just seem super prolific
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: Well,
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 4:36ask me at the end of the year if I regret adding another thing
- 4:38and I'll let you know.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: But but really,
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: at the end of last year,
- 4:42I was just looking for more ways to connect with people on a
- 4:46more meaningful way as
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: we travel around.
- 4:50We love being in a new place and kind of immersing ourselves in
- 4:54the culture of the
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: place as much as we can.
- 4:56And we have met people without even trying all over the country,
- 5:00and that's been really fun.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: But this year or this last year, I was just thinking a lot about how...
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: When we're in a new place,
- 5:09when I have the opportunity to spend a few hours with somebody
- 5:13that lives there,
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: it it just enriches both of our lives in a in a really meaningful way.
- 5:19And so I thought,
- 5:20well,
- 5:21with the Lost Supper Club,
- 5:23if I can do that and then write about it.
- 5:26Then maybe I could also inspire other people to get together
- 5:31with friends over
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: dinner on a more regular basis.
- 5:34I feel like it's kind of a lost art that and we're just craving
- 5:40that in-person
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: connection everywhere I go.
- 5:43I talk to people about this and everybody seems to be craving
- 5:46that in-person connection,
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: but they're not really sure how to go about starting it.
- 5:49So that's kind of what I'm hoping to do is by doing it myself
- 5:52and writing about it,
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: inspire more people to do the same thing.
- 5:56I think food too is so common in that everyone speaks the same
- 6:00language when it comes to food.
- 6:03No matter what you eat,
- 6:05what you prepare,
- 6:06it has a way of bringing people together.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that you and I have talked about offline is
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: Is how challenging,
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: when you're a nomad,
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: we'll call it,
- 6:16it's challenging to keep up those relationships with friends
- 6:20and family because
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: they don't know where you are and you can't just,
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 6:25SPEAKER_01: have your weekly tennis date.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
- 6:28that's been a big challenge with our friends back home in
- 6:31Colorado is maintaining
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: those relationships with some of our closest friends.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: Thankfully,
- 6:36we tend to attract the kind of friends that are also similar in
- 6:41that they they're
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: very independent.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: They have they travel all over the place.
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: And so it's pretty easy to just pick up where we left off.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: But but I'm just I'm starting to become a little more conscious of
- 6:55Trying to do things like phone calls and just text messages and
- 6:59just reaching out
- 7:00in any way I can to some of these relationships while we're on
- 7:03the road because
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: they are important.
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: Those connections that we form with people that become lifelong friends,
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: it's one of the most valuable things in my life.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: The older I get, the more I realize how deeply important they are.
- 7:22Also,
- 7:23I'm curious what your thoughts are,
- 7:24because I don't know your husband at all.
- 7:26SPEAKER_01: But my husband has a small group of friends,
- 7:31SPEAKER_01: and they're the same friends he's had since the sixth grade.
- 7:34And I am someone that craves a lot of friends,
- 7:38a lot of different types of people.
- 7:40SPEAKER_01: Everyone I meet becomes my friend.
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: We just have different needs.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: I'm an extrovert.
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: He's an introvert.
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: How to fill our buckets are
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: Would you say you're more introverted or how do you,
- 7:50is your husband like on the same page with you or do you spend
- 7:53a lot of time
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: forging connections?
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:57So both of us have a strong tendency to just keep to ourselves
- 8:02and hold ourselves away.
- 8:03And that's part of the more concentrated effort on my part of
- 8:09reaching out to more
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: people and making those connections,
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: because if it's not deliberate,
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: we won't do it.
- 8:14We're very happy parking ourselves in the middle of nowhere for
- 8:19months at a time
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: and not really talking to anybody except each other.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, that's horrifying to me.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: We love it.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: We love it.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: We love it.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: But that.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: no matter how introverted you tend to be,
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: those connections with other people are just important.
- 8:44And so my husband's a little worried about how many social
- 8:48activities I have
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: planned for us this year because he gets really worn out by it.
- 8:55But also when he's there,
- 8:56he has a good time and he knows that it's good for him as well.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: So
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
- 9:01At the end of the year,
- 9:02we'll take stock and see if it was too much for us or not.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: So let's get lost details.
- 9:09It's your newsletter on Substack that details all the places
- 9:12that you are and what
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: you're cooking along the way.
- 9:16The Lost Supper Club is the new paid version of Substack that
- 9:20you will belong to this club.
- 9:23SPEAKER_01: You'll talk about ways to entertain.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: You'll share recipes in your January edition.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: You did a really nice overview of homemade pasta.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 9:32That I love because I just filmed a TV show about pasta and I
- 9:35made pasta myself at
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: home for the first time.
- 9:37SPEAKER_00: Oh, fun.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: So it was really fun to read your recipe and your techniques.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: And then the Let's Get Lost, the cookbook is on the verge of coming.
- 9:46So tell me where you're at with that and when we'll be able to
- 9:49get our hands on it.
- 9:50Yeah,
- 9:51so that should be out the last week of this month,
- 9:53January,
- 9:54the last week of January.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: And there'll be links on RebeccaBlackwell.com and on both of my blogs.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I'm very excited about that.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: It's a
- 10:07140 something recipes,
- 10:09135 page cookbook,
- 10:12full color photos of every of every recipe.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't a book I had intended to write last year.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: I just I was publishing so many recipes on Substack that I thought,
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 10:26I'm just going to throw these together into like a quick little
- 10:28downloadable book.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: And then it turned into a full blown, a full blown cookbook.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: So how do you do it?
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: Are you printing on demand?
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: Because you're obviously not warehousing things in your RV.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're printing on demand.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: So it'll be available on print and downloadable PDF and Kindle.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: So three different options for that.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: And then I'm already started on volume two.
- 10:55So this year's volume two will be focused more on a supper club
- 11:01and it'll be
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: organized by the areas that we've traveled to.
- 11:05So Southern California,
- 11:06Louisiana,
- 11:07the Midwest,
- 11:08there's a,
- 11:09there's a pool.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: And it'll include other people's recipes as well.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: So as we travel around and cook and have dinner with other people,
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: they will contribute recipes to the book.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: So it'll be more of a collaborative effort.
- 11:24SPEAKER_01: Oh, gosh, I just love it.
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: You're so prolific.
- 11:26You were a marketer in your other life before getting into the
- 11:30RV and kind of
- 11:30SPEAKER_01: branching off and doing your own freelance.
- 11:32SPEAKER_01: What did you market?
- 11:34Yeah,
- 11:34so I mostly worked with businesses who wanted to improve their
- 11:38online strategies.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: So I put together very comprehensive strategies for them that included,
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: a lot of different factors.
- 11:47And I did a lot of writings,
- 11:49wrote a lot of websites,
- 11:51a lot of emails,
- 11:52a lot of blog posts.
- 11:53I was the ghostwriter for quite a few companies blog posts over
- 11:57the years.
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: So back in 2013, I thought maybe I'd like to do this for myself.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: And that's when I started my first blog.
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: And and then gradually I started as the blog grew,
- 12:09I was able to let go of some clients on a very gradual basis
- 12:14and was finally full
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: time with food blogging by 2020.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: That's so exciting.
- 12:19SPEAKER_01: When you're in your RV and you're like making a recipe,
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 12:24do you find space is a limitation or how do you get like the
- 12:27perfect photograph?
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: And have you had to adapt?
- 12:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:31That has been a big adaption in our house before we sold it and
- 12:36moved into the RV.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: I had a whole room just for photography and that was amazing.
- 12:42But I have discovered that there's really nothing that you
- 12:45can't do in a small space.
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: If you have, it's like money.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: However much you have, you seem to need it all.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: That's how space is.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: I think however much you have,
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: you figure out a way to need it all,
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: but you don't actually need it all.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: For an RV kitchen, mine is much nicer and much bigger than a lot of RVs.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: As we were looking towards buying an RV,
- 13:09SPEAKER_00: we looked at,
- 13:09SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: 100 different models and found one where the kitchen would work for me.
- 13:15And it hasn't limited what I've been able to do really at all,
- 13:18which has been really nice.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: And then photography, I just use these, like, 24-inch photography boards.
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: some of them you would never know that it's a board,
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: even though it's this small little board.
- 13:35You know,
- 13:35the cover of the cookbook has a window in the background,
- 13:38the cover photo.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: And people are shocked to know that that's not a window,
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: that it's just a board that I set up on on my kitchen table.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: You can create like a little good light and there you go.
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 13:53Artificial lighting for photography has been a game changer for
- 13:57me because relying
- 13:59on how the light comes in and what time of day it is and where
- 14:03we are in the world
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: and what the weather is doing and,
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: all of those things affect it.
- 14:07And so that's been,
- 14:09that's been really important to use artificial lighting in,
- 14:13in the RV.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 14:14SPEAKER_01: One thing I'm curious about,
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: I feel like travel and being in new spaces and meeting new people,
- 14:22I feel like that so like inspires creativity and gets you sort
- 14:26of out of your
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: day-to-day existence.
- 14:29Does that persist when you're like,
- 14:32your day-to-day existence is all those things.
- 14:35So I'm just curious,
- 14:37like,
- 14:38I'm wondering how it is that you like ground yourself
- 14:42when everything around you is changing,
- 14:44or is that just a constant source of inspiration?
- 14:47Like food,
- 14:48like the ingredients,
- 14:50everything is different everywhere you go.
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: That's true.
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's very true.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: You know, that's interesting.
- 14:57I just started listening to a book that's talking about the
- 15:00difference between,
- 15:02it's mostly focused on anxiety and the difference between right
- 15:05brain and left
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: brain functionality.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: And our right brain is really where our creativity lies.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: And the more stressed out and anxious we are,
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: the more it shuts down creativity,
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: like just closes that part off of us.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: And I feel like as we travel around,
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: I can identify how when we get into a new place,
- 15:28the more I'm able to just be present in that place and
- 15:32appreciate the experience of
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: being there,
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: the more I can feel that creativity opening up.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: And just relaxing,
- 15:42relaxing my mind enough to like really see where are we and
- 15:46what is this place like?
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: And that just brings forth a whole bunch of new ideas.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: And then also.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: What's the book?
- 15:55SPEAKER_00: Do you know?
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, it's Martha Beck.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: And I don't remember the title, but it's her it's her newest one.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: And there's the word anxiety in the title.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: It's highly recommended.
- 16:06SPEAKER_01: And just put it in the show notes in case anyone's very good.
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
- 16:09because she has this idea that we can use our creative mind to
- 16:13calm stress and
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: anxiety in our lives.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: And I love that idea.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: So and,
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: before we moved into the RV,
- 16:21I could have shopped at the same places and I could have very
- 16:24distinct ideas and
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: just go to the grocery store and get them.
- 16:27And now I have to show up with a very loose idea of what I want
- 16:30because you never know.
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: You never know what's going to be there.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: And that just also been a creative.
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: I think a creative boost to not be so rigid in that thinking.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that idea.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Also,
- 16:43I think for we're in this kind of weird political place where
- 16:48everybody is very
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: polarized in their silos and you're either all this or you're all that.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: And there's very little nuance.
- 16:56One thing I found about traveling that really helped me a lot
- 17:00is this idea that
- 17:02SPEAKER_01: wherever you are in an RV park,
- 17:05Whether you're alone or you're with others,
- 17:08everybody's kind of there for the same things.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: You might approach them differently.
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: Your political flag might fly differently.
- 17:16SPEAKER_01: But at the end of the day, they're sitting out there at their campfire.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: You're sitting out at your campfire.
- 17:22It doesn't hurt you to kind of go over and introduce yourself
- 17:25and share a beer or a
- 17:26SPEAKER_01: glass of wine.
- 17:27SPEAKER_01: And I just felt so...
- 17:30It's appreciative that I had that experience because when I'm
- 17:33in a dark place and
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling like I'm alone in my own silo,
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: I remember that,
- 17:39SPEAKER_01: oh,
- 17:39SPEAKER_01: no,
- 17:39there's all these other people out there and we kind of get to
- 17:42it a different way.
- 17:43SPEAKER_01: But we want security for our family.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: We want to have jobs that are meaningful.
- 17:47SPEAKER_01: We want to love and be able to be, you know, in a place that's beautiful.
- 17:52That really helped me have a lot of empathy for people that
- 17:55weren't like me.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree completely.
- 18:00We had this one experience a couple of years ago where we were
- 18:02talking to a couple
- 18:04in our campground and he got on a tangent of all sorts of
- 18:10political ideas and we
- 18:12just stood there listening and I didn't agree with pretty much
- 18:16anything he was saying.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: And at the end of it, I just said, you know,
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: I didn't actually agree with anything that you just said,
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: but one thing that I've learned is that there are good people everywhere,
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: even if they think differently from me.
- 18:31And so then we ended up talking about that and that I have
- 18:37strong opinions about a
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: lot of things.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: And so the more I meet people that don't share that same perspective,
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: the better it is for me,
- 18:47SPEAKER_00: the better it is for my state of mind.
- 18:50SPEAKER_00: I can get very...
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: into thinking that the world is a dark place.
- 18:56And then when I'm out in it and actually meeting the people
- 18:59that live in all of
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: these places,
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: it's a solid reminder that it's not a dark place.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: Most people are very generous and very kind and very friendly.
- 19:09SPEAKER_00: And in every state, that's true.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: We have states that we enjoy more than others,
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: but we have found good people and beautiful places
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: Pretty much everywhere.
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: That is like the moral of the story, isn't it?
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: Like right what you just said.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: And it's why I love sailing.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: I love RVing.
- 19:31SPEAKER_01: I love going to Europe.
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: I love traveling.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I'm fortunate in that I have some reserves to do that.
- 19:39But you can just travel to your state park down the road and
- 19:43really explore it in
- 19:45SPEAKER_01: your car and sleep in your car and meet so many different people.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: And
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: I didn't sleep in a tent for,
- 19:52SPEAKER_01: well,
- 19:52SPEAKER_01: honestly,
- 19:52I've only slept in a tent like probably twice because I've
- 19:55either had an RV or a
- 19:56SPEAKER_01: cabin or,
- 19:58but it is a very eye-opening experience to just put yourself
- 20:01out there and the
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: people that you meet.
- 20:03SPEAKER_01: So I'm really excited about your Lost, not the Let's Get Lost.
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: I'm excited about the Lost Supper Club because in the Midwest,
- 20:12SPEAKER_01: as you know,
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: supper clubs are such a big deal here.
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: So that I did.
- 20:18SPEAKER_00: I didn't know anything about separate clubs until we visited the Midwest.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, well, this is cool.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: And some of them are there's sort of older folks here,
- 20:30SPEAKER_01: but then there's others that are more modern now.
- 20:32And we're kind of getting back to seeing fancy relish trays and
- 20:36fancy high end restaurants.
- 20:37And just the idea of the supper club being like a place where
- 20:40you gather on a
- 20:41Friday or Saturday night and it can be with friends and it
- 20:44doesn't have to be at a
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: restaurant all the time.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: And it certainly does not have to always be steak.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: Well,
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: and in the South,
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: if you say Supper Club,
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: people don't even realize that you're talking about an establishment.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: Supper Clubs are a group of friends that get together on a regular basis.
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: They're very organized.
- 21:02SPEAKER_00: And we...
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: We met some friends in Louisiana a few years ago.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: We're going to do a supper club at her place this year.
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: But she invited us to her home for dinner, and that's what it was.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: It was a supper club,
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: and the table was tablescaped,
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: and the china was out,
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: and everybody was in their Sunday best.
- 21:22I mean,
- 21:22it was an amazing dinner,
- 21:25an amazing event,
- 21:26and she just does that all the time.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: It's just a normal part of life to have these-
- 21:33amazing dinner parties with groups of people gathered around
- 21:36her table and and so
- 21:37that's more what it is in the south so um there's there's a lot
- 21:41of options and a
- 21:42lot of variety um for people to kind of create more community
- 21:48over food and and
- 21:49honestly there's something about humans where we want if we're
- 21:54going to get
- 21:54SPEAKER_00: together with people we want there to be food
- 21:58SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 21:59SPEAKER_01: Hot tea does not do it.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: You got to have a scone or a biscuit or something else.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 22:05I'm going to go ahead and put links to all the ways that people
- 22:08can connect with
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: you in this podcast episode.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: You can pre-order the book now.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: We will provide a link in the show notes.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: Rebecca Blackwell, thank you for being our guest today.
- 22:19SPEAKER_01: It was super fun to just chat with you.
- 22:20I think it's funny,
- 22:22too,
- 22:22the cookbooks behind you that made it on the RV list.
- 22:26SPEAKER_01: You have probably like 30, way more than I would have thought.
- 22:30SPEAKER_00: I have another 30 in our bedroom.
- 22:33SPEAKER_01: Okay, so do you read cookbooks like you read novels?
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 22:38SPEAKER_01: Same.
- 22:39Like at night when I'm in bed,
- 22:41I'm like reading a cookbook,
- 22:42not necessarily a book as it were.
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 22:45Well,
- 22:45and I'm starting to order more on Kindle because,
- 22:48you know,
- 22:48I only have so much space.
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: And yeah.
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: And I don't love the Kindle cookbooks as much.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: It's I love having a book in my hands.
- 22:58SPEAKER_00: I can't stop buying them.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you got to make make do where you can.
- 23:04SPEAKER_01: Well, it was great to chat with you.
- 23:06Like I said,
- 23:06I'll have all the links for everything in the show notes here.
- 23:10SPEAKER_01: And good luck.
- 23:11And I can't wait to connect with you next year after you've had
- 23:14this whole year of
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: creativity behind you to see where it goes.
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me.
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Rebecca.
- 23:20SPEAKER_01: We'll talk soon.