Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / People Regret Chances Not Taken And People Not Slept With
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom show. Today, we're going to be talking
- 0:10about when people regret the chances, they didn't take on the
- 0:13people. They didn't sleep with and this
- 0:16runs a little bit counter to, you know, we have a fairly
- 0:19puritanical culture about sex and really the only regrets that
- 0:24people tend to verbalize publicly are those where, you
- 0:27know, especially a woman says, oh, you know, I hooked up with
- 0:31too many boys or I wish I didn't have X or Y experience.
- 0:35That's fine. And I understand and validate
- 0:38that. However, people just as often
- 0:40have the other regrets the opposite about people, they
- 0:43didn't sleep with and relationships, they didn't
- 0:45choose to try. And I'll talk about that today,
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- 1:33So, for today, I told you at some point that I had a young
- 1:38male listener, who said, maybe I should do more stuff for single
- 1:42male listeners. Well, this is for single people
- 1:44of both genders. I do try to do that more of my
- 1:47social media, a lot of talking about like, what compatibility
- 1:51is a lot to settle and what to look for in a partner.
- 1:54If you look at my Instagram and my Facebook, I have a lot of
- 1:57stuff about that. Of course, the majority of
- 2:01people I work with are married and are some of them.
- 2:05Divorced, you know, so this is applicable to them.
- 2:07But generally, they are people who, you know, struggle with
- 2:13regrets because human beings have regrets.
- 2:15And I, you know, sometimes I do hear about regrets of peat
- 2:19relationships, people didn't want to be in and thinking like,
- 2:22oh, that explore friend was bad for me or that ex-girlfriend
- 2:25didn't treat me very well, but, you know, honestly more often
- 2:29than that, I hear I should have taken this chance.
- 2:32I should have tried to date this person.
- 2:35And I should have slept with that girl who wanted to, I
- 2:37should have slept with that guy who wanted to, you know, people
- 2:40tend to regret the chances. They didn't take more than
- 2:44things that they did and of course there can be things
- 2:47people regret that they did to you know nothing here is black
- 2:50and white but really it seems like people when they're older
- 2:55so in midlife and afterwards they tend to regret not putting
- 2:59themselves out there more and not trying harder to kind of
- 3:04take all that life. I've had to offer and not doing
- 3:07so out of fear. And I just, I just read an
- 3:11article not an article about this.
- 3:14It was a short essay in a book that my husband bought me.
- 3:18It was a something here. Wait, I'll actually get you the
- 3:21title. The book is wanting women
- 3:25writing about desire and it's an essay collection.
- 3:28And so one of those essays in it that I just read was called the
- 3:31good girl I think. And it was about a woman who
- 3:35regrets that she did not go further sexually as a teenager
- 3:39with the boy that she was very attracted to because she was was
- 3:44abiding by the rules of her culture and she wanted to be a
- 3:47good girl. And she's since repudiated, many
- 3:50of those cultural norms and she wishes and retrospect.
- 3:53That, you know, she had at that moment when she felt so
- 3:56attracted to that boy, had a sexual experience with him and
- 4:00gone further than she allowed herself to go because she was
- 4:03being Guided by the principles that she was raised by, and she
- 4:09didn't want to be bad. Bad and she wishes that she
- 4:12would have had that experience and it also reminds me of some
- 4:16of you have read the book, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, that was
- 4:19a book that I've read a lot and that I liked.
- 4:22I grew up in Brooklyn and in one of the scenes later on, when the
- 4:26main character, Francie, the young girl that it follows, as
- 4:30she gets older. And she's older as a teenager or
- 4:33I think. Yeah, I think she was like a
- 4:34late teenager or early twenties. She had an interaction with a
- 4:38guy and And she didn't, she didn't have sex with him and
- 4:43that it turns out that he was in fact, married and she said to
- 4:47her mother, so kind of like, should I have done it?
- 4:51And the mother said, well, you know, I'm not going to say that,
- 4:55you know, that you shouldn't have.
- 4:56I'm not going to because it might have been wonderful and it
- 5:00probably would have been wonderful because you were so in
- 5:02love with him to have that one interaction.
- 5:04And I think that the boy went away, the man whatever went away
- 5:07and was, you know, in Or what have you?
- 5:10This was set a long time ago, obviously.
- 5:13But anyway, the mother said you should have basically had the
- 5:17the interaction you should have slept with him because he would
- 5:19have been so wonderful because you were so young.
- 5:21And so in love and I remember reading that when I was younger
- 5:24and thinking that, that was really interesting, you know?
- 5:27And it was like kind of a moment.
- 5:29I was highly sensitive child, right?
- 5:31I mean I'm sure you could imagine as a therapist now.
- 5:34So I was always looking for guideposts about the way that
- 5:37male-female relationships would operate much.
- 5:39Much in the way that I do currently and that was real
- 5:42interesting to me because as a girl as the essay, the other
- 5:46essay that I just talked about delineate when you're a girl,
- 5:50you are told to be a good girl and you are told to basically
- 5:53avoid being bad and overly sexual and slutty and whatever
- 5:58and that was a different way of thinking about it.
- 6:02And I read that book when I was an adolescent.
- 6:05So so it was interesting that there could be this counter You
- 6:10should take whatever life has to offer you in terms of full
- 6:15sexual and romantic pleasure and enjoyment.
- 6:18And that, that could be even more important than doing the
- 6:21quote, right thing. And here, it wasn't only having
- 6:24sex out of out of wedlock. It was all I think.
- 6:27I now remember the man had like a fiance that she found out
- 6:30about later or whatever. So she would have been doing
- 6:32something bad in that regard, but she also would have been
- 6:34doing something bad in as much as they themselves, were not
- 6:37married, of course. And yet the mother, He thought
- 6:40that the experience might have been worth it.
- 6:42So anyway, how that relates is, I frequently hear people that
- 6:48regret the chances that they didn't take romantically and
- 6:52instead, they waited, and they tried to have few sexual
- 6:55partners or no, sexual partners, or maybe they even waited till
- 6:58marriage. I see a lot of people who
- 7:00struggle with sexual issues that waited until marriage and, you
- 7:04know, they didn't get these experiences when they were young
- 7:08and in love and super obsessed. With somebody that could have
- 7:11been amazing to look back at and amazing in the moment.
- 7:15And so if you are somebody who right now, so there's two kinds
- 7:20of people or many kinds of people that this relates to, and
- 7:23so many different ways. But one thing is, like parents.
- 7:27Now, as I've discussed at Ad, nauseam are very, very
- 7:31child-centered and sometimes over anxious, and over Vigilant
- 7:36about even young adults, their young adult children, and
- 7:40they'll get really up in arms about whether their children are
- 7:43having, you know, sexual experiences or sleeping with too
- 7:45many people or or whatever. I mean, what about the other
- 7:50alternative which is that they would be scared of the world and
- 7:53terrified to interact with people.
- 7:55I mean, you wouldn't want that, you know, there is a way to say,
- 7:58all right, good like let my kid do whatever they want.
- 8:01Let them enjoy their life. Like, let them enjoy College,
- 8:03let them have fun, of course, within safe limits and, you
- 8:07know, discuss, safe sex and whatever.
- 8:09But I About this in a podcast way early on about, how do you
- 8:13teach your daughters like to about sex without pushing a fear
- 8:17narrative, and a lot of parents push a fear narrative because
- 8:22they were raised with a fear narrative and the fear narrative
- 8:25took a lot away from them, you know.
- 8:27It's stole a lot of potential positive experiences that they
- 8:32could have had in the world, you know, and is applicable to even
- 8:39what I Stood recently on social media about these.
- 8:42The General Social Survey says that rates of sexlessness are
- 8:46going up and something like, 30%.
- 8:49A young people haven't had sex in the, past year or something,
- 8:52it's crazy, you know, and and that isn't good.
- 8:55It's not like those people are happy.
- 8:57They're not like, wow, like I'm doing so great.
- 8:59You know, and I mean maybe some of them are but I see other ones
- 9:03because still do have somebody on clients and they're not happy
- 9:06about that. As you may not have been
- 9:08particularly If you're somebody who currently likes to listen to
- 9:12dr. Psych mom talk about sex and how
- 9:15to have better sex in your marriage.
- 9:16Then you may also be somebody who wishes that they would have
- 9:19had more sexual experience, you know, so don't don't let your
- 9:22judgment stop you from encouraging, your children to
- 9:25explore and to do whatever whatever they want.
- 9:27And then, of course, many of you are single and post-divorce and
- 9:31sometimes people kind of go back to this old way of thinking,
- 9:35when they were single for the first time in their 20s, even
- 9:38though they're in their 40s and they I say oh I shouldn't, you
- 9:40know, sleep with too many people or then I'll be thought of this
- 9:43way or that way or who cares, who cares?
- 9:48I mean if you, if you are in a relationship or not even a
- 9:51relationship, if you meet somebody that you have a click
- 9:54with and that you are really attracted to why not see where
- 9:58that goes. So many people have all these
- 10:01rules and restrictions on when they'll allow themselves to be
- 10:05sexual with somebody, a particularly women have these
- 10:08rules because Society Trans women to try, not to be quote,
- 10:12slutty, or whatever. And then, like so many times
- 10:16they say, God, I wish I would have slept with that guy.
- 10:18That was a Summer Fling. When I was 18 years old or I
- 10:21wish that I would have allowed myself to more freedom to
- 10:25explore. Maybe then I would be more
- 10:27sex-positive. Now, or I wouldn't be having
- 10:29these these these issues within my marriage, where it's hard for
- 10:33me to open up and men in particular, really hate being
- 10:37late. Bloomers, I have a whole podcast
- 10:39about late Bloomers. And opposed.
- 10:41And that got me a lot of feedback, a lot of people wrote
- 10:44it and emailed and said that that podcasts and post resonated
- 10:47with them about being a late bloomer.
- 10:50And some of those guys are not it's not like, every teenage guy
- 10:53is just like trying to have sex as hard as they can like with,
- 10:57you know, as trying as hard as they can, to have sex with, with
- 11:02all these women and they're just getting shot down and chat down
- 11:05some of them have internalized. These rules about again, not
- 11:09being Add or not having premarital sex, or, or overly
- 11:13thinking of women as fragile and, and easily hurt.
- 11:18So then they take this more white knight role or what I call
- 11:21a gentleman eunuch, you know. And so they don't even try to
- 11:25have sex with girls. They actually actively some of
- 11:27them reject girls that are making overtures because they
- 11:30think this is being bad. And the only way to be like a
- 11:33good guy is to not have casual sex.
- 11:36And I mean, I've never heard a man whose Real glad that he did
- 11:40that. Most of them are, like, why was
- 11:42that such a fucking idiot. You know, that I like missed all
- 11:46these opportunities where I could have become more confident
- 11:49in my sexuality, and I could have really kind of embraced
- 11:54being a young guy. And I don't have those hormones
- 11:58or anymore, and I don't get an erection, every three seconds
- 12:00anymore. So, what the hell was I doing?
- 12:02You know, why was I so hamstrung by these things that I had been
- 12:06taught that, most people tend to get more flexible over time.
- 12:09About various things that they're taught, like, no
- 12:13premarital sex or whatever. You know, people kind of start
- 12:16to see the Shades of Gray as they get older, and if you no
- 12:19longer believe those things and you're like, the hell, you know?
- 12:22I mean like, why did I, why did I stop myself from enjoying
- 12:27myself more? At the time, you know, like why
- 12:29didn't I go all the way? Well with my high school
- 12:32girlfriend, or like, whatever the case may be.
- 12:34So so yeah, it's and even Beyond this, like there are many
- 12:38relationships that People don't have because of various rules
- 12:42and restrictions that they that they have, you know, in their
- 12:44own head like girls who think that a guy is not serious enough
- 12:48to have a relationship with because like he doesn't have
- 12:51whatever job is considered, you know, responsible and would.
- 12:55And her parents would like or would approve of or men that
- 12:58will only date a quote, good girl, you know so she has to
- 13:01have less experience than him and have a certain mentality and
- 13:06whatever whatever. But meanwhile like some other
- 13:08girl that they're attracted to That they really click with they
- 13:11don't pursue a relationship with that girl, because they think
- 13:14that she would be considered an inappropriate serious Girlfriend
- 13:19by family or friends or whatever.
- 13:21So, there's a lot of people that do these things and then, you
- 13:24know, usually, they just end up thinking, why did I do that?
- 13:28I mean, knowing of course why they did it.
- 13:30I'm speaking rhetorically, but wishing that they had taken more
- 13:33chances. And I mean, this goes to school,
- 13:35is really for everything. Like trips not taken, jobs, not
- 13:38taken, Friendships, not explored everything.
- 13:43I mean, regret is a big thing. I work with a lot of people in
- 13:46midlife and I'll tell you, regret is a big theme and if
- 13:51you're already a depressive kind of person then regret can start
- 13:55to be this thing that you ruminate about.
- 13:56So, try to get out ahead of that in any ways that you currently
- 14:00can. And now what's a way that you
- 14:01could do it if you're already married?
- 14:03Well, I mean you could try to work on your relationship
- 14:06instead of just shoving under the rug that y'all are like, not
- 14:09Being in a sexless like pretty romantic list, marriage romance,
- 14:14lists marriage, you know. I mean I've never had anybody
- 14:17say, you know, I'm really glad that we didn't come in here.
- 14:21Ten years ago, that would really fucked us up to do.
- 14:24All this productive work back before our problems metastasized
- 14:28like a cancer. I'm so glad we didn't come in in
- 14:322003 the first time. She said she wanted to leave me
- 14:35and instead we're here in 2023 that that really helped no fuck
- 14:38no to see. Exact opposite like almost like
- 14:42like weekly or something. Honestly, somebody says
- 14:46something like, man, I wish that we would have got in here 10
- 14:49years ago, man. I wish we would have got in
- 14:51here, 20 years ago. I mean, really so, I mean, and
- 14:54that's not just because I'm awesome.
- 14:56That's because that is how people think, you know, if
- 14:59something is working, once you're trying on something, it's
- 15:02like that quote that I say every so often when's the best time to
- 15:05plant a tree, you know, 10 years ago was the second-best time.
- 15:09Today, because that's the only time you have.
- 15:11This is the soonest time right now.
- 15:13When you think of it as a soonest time, that you can
- 15:16possibly do it, it's not 10 years out.
- 15:19That's the worst time, you know. And so if you are in a marriage
- 15:23and it is in any way less than fulfilling emotionally,
- 15:28physically whatever work on it. Now, you will never regret it
- 15:33when you will regret is not working on it sooner.
- 15:36So you could do that today. This could be a wake-up call.
- 15:39Call for you to do it today to reach out and get into couples
- 15:43counseling, you know, or to start talking in a different
- 15:47way, or to bring up things that you don't usually bring up or
- 15:50put yourself out there. Romantically in a way that you
- 15:53usually don't or try something new in bed or out of bed or
- 15:57anywhere, or, or anything. And this, of course, beyond the
- 16:00relationship. There's parenting people have
- 16:02regrets that they just work too hard and didn't pay enough
- 16:05attention to their kids, or that they didn't get their own mental
- 16:08issues, like depression or anxiety.
- 16:09ID treated when it could still impact their children's
- 16:12childhood, there are a million things.
- 16:15And if you're honest with yourself, you could probably
- 16:16take like three things right now that you wish that that if you
- 16:22were betting a million dollars on, if they would turn into
- 16:24regrets, you would know what they were right now.
- 16:27You know. And so for a lot of people,
- 16:28these are you know a lot of people I work with they are not
- 16:31focusing on the marriage and or shoving marital problems under
- 16:34the rug for some people it's not separating or not divorcing
- 16:38quite honestly because they've Already gone through loads and
- 16:40loads of couples counseling and and there's like no no
- 16:43connection but they're scared to move forward and a lot of people
- 16:47their parenting regrets to you know and for single people there
- 16:51are regrets about not not taking risks and not putting yourself
- 16:55out there. If you are single let me reach
- 16:57out to whoever you want to reach out to so many times.
- 17:00People reconnect with like old loves from a old time like
- 17:04because they're both divorced again but you know that would
- 17:07never happen if you didn't reach out and see Yeah, I've already
- 17:11had some fearsome. Funny meme about like, are you
- 17:15still? Married is the, are you up of
- 17:18your 40? Is there something like meaning
- 17:20that when people are in their twenties or, you know, they
- 17:23text, are you up meaning like at late night if you're up then you
- 17:26could come over and we could hook up.
- 17:28But like in the 40s and people post-divorce reach out to Old
- 17:33the, you know, partners and say are you still married as a way
- 17:37to see if they are available. Therefore, potentially hooking
- 17:40up or more. So, anyway, just use this to
- 17:44think about, or you really grabbing Life by the horns, even
- 17:47if you never did before, could you now grab Life by the horns
- 17:50and do things differently so much that you end up with fewer
- 17:54regrets down the line and that is really the upshot of it and
- 17:58thank you for listening. I hope this was useful and I'll
- 18:01talk to you soon. Bye.