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Curious Coworkers: Celebrating 100 Episodes, A Journey of Growth, Learning and Impact on Responsibly Different™ · Responsibly Different™

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Curious Co-workers.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: A responsibly different talk show exploring the challenges that arise when our interests conflict with our values.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Today we are so excited to share that this is our 100th episode here on Responsibly Different.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: We're so thankful to all of you listeners who have been here with us along this wild ride, and we hope you continue to share this resource out with your networks, as it's helpful.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: Brittany, it also feels very serendipitous to be celebrating this moment with you, as you were the very first person I interviewed for this podcast while you were still at revision energy, which I want to definitely ask you about when we start to get into things.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: On a more serious note, i am so grateful to have you be part of the show, brittany.
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: You've brought so much to this podcast and to the Deergo Collective family, to you, our amazing listeners.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: you make it all possible.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: So in this episode, brittany and I are going to talk about the last three years of the show's history, what that has meant to each of us and the roles that we've played.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: So, Ben, I know that this is just a wild moment in time for you and for the Deergo Collective family, but can you believe that it has been three years that you've been dreaming, creating, interviewing and, most importantly, producing these episodes for Responsibly Different?
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering what has that experience been like for you?
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: How have you grown?
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, that's a great question.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: So one super surreal and I feel super, super, super grateful too.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: It feels like just yesterday we were starting the show and working to learn everything we could about how we could use our business as a force for good, and we continue to learn and grow in that regard too.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: The show in the early days was really a byproduct of that exploration And a lot of those early episodes, if you listen back, were about how to navigate the B impact assessment And what does this question mean And what does that question mean And how are folks doing these very specific kind of more tactical things And really just trying to understand the landscape and finding our home within it.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: And as time went on and we eventually certified ourselves after two years of some really deep, intentional growth and working on the assessment, the show began to evolve away from talking about the assessment and more to elevating the stories of how businesses are leveraging business to help people and plan it in meaningful ways, and that has been really exciting.
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: Now also in the first year we were working really hard to kind of establish the show and gain credibility And now, 100 episodes later, we've had some of the biggest brands in the B Corp movement on the show and it has really afforded us to evolve and get more creative with the kind of content we create and how we're serving listeners.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Just like this year, with your help, we've been able to develop mini series which have really been fun to produce, even though there are a lot more work in pre and post production.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: But so, all that being said, it's been a lot of fun.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: I've had the opportunity to ask some questions of folks I greatly admire and respect And, honestly, without the show I'm not sure I'd have gotten those kinds of opportunities.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: You know, i still remember when we were able to get Ben Cohen, the co-founder of Ben and Jerry's, on the show Shout out and gratitude to Jeremy Glass, who was one of the writers we worked with, that made that introduction.
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: But I was so nervous for that interview Yeah, i mean, it's so vivid for me and Ben was such a chill, down-to-earth guy.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: Like one of the first things he said to me and normally I would edit this kind of like commentary out of the episode, but I left it in because I honestly I left it in just for me because it meant so much to me.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: But one of the first things he said to me was let's jump, man, like referencing, just jumping into the episode And I don't know why, but it made me smile so big and just helped me relax into our conversation And that is something that I really appreciate about this community.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: It would be so easy for so many of the amazing guests we've had on the show to be kind of big personalities or challenging to work with, which has been my experience with a few guests on other shows that I've helped produce And honestly, i've had nothing but amazing experiences with folks working on responsibly different even working with folks, personal assistants or PR firms, which I'd say has probably been about a third of all the guests we've had on the show.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: Everyone has brought so much humanity and grace to the work and is just a testament to the amazing people that are in this community and that these leaders seem to really be practicing what they preach of treating all people well.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: Amen to that.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: And Brittany, i feel like you have a really unique role in this show too, you being my very first ever guest on a responsibly different back in 2020, what has seeing the show grow from those early days into what it is now meant to you?
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: And also, i want to mention, too, that you being the first person on the show, one of the things I asked at the end was like, who would you want to hear from on the show And what would you ask them?
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: And I so much like use that as like a roadmap for getting started.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, ok, i want to get all the people on Brittany's wish list on the show and ask them all the questions Brittany would want to ask them.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm just so curious what has your experience been?
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what That is wild?
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: because I do remember the exact wish list that I gave you And I think you had everybody that I wished for.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: So that is pretty funny that, like before I joined the show, i was thinking about like how I could add to the show So cool, cool moment there.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: But the I guess the first thing I'll say is like it is wild to think back to that first episode where you did interview me, because I myself was such a different person And much like listening and seeing this platform grow and change and learn to become more.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: I've seen myself learn and change and grow and continue to learn more.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: So it's fun just to see the growth that I've had along with this show, even not being super involved in the in the early stages, the way that like I'm involved now.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: But like crazy to think back to 2020 because I just remember I'm working from home, i'm like starting to navigate, understanding how to work from home.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: And then I get your request in my inbox that shows up and it's like, hey, britt, wanna be my first podcast guest.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my God, this is so crazy, i'm going to be on a podcast and like hands shaking, sweating and I'm so nervous.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: But what I kept telling myself back then and what I continue to tell myself now is that, yes, people will be able to hear what I'm saying time and time over again.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: It will last and exist forever.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: And I just kept thinking like, oh, what if I mess up?
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: And I was so nervous to mess up.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: But as I continue to record on this podcast, i just keep telling myself that if I speak to my truth and my experiences and who I am and I share what I know to be true in the world, and if I don't know things to be true, then I do my research to better understand them before recording.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: That helps me get through recording a little less nervous And it helps me get over that hurdle of like, oh my God, hundreds are going to hear this and time and time again, it's going to last forever.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: But, ben, that does make me kind of then want to ask to you because you have been doing this longer than me for multiple shows And, like, when you think about the idea of recording your conversations, is that ever hard for you?
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: And do you ever need to do convincing with yourself or even with your guests to kind of like get over that nervousness of like, wow, this is a recorded conversation.
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i mean absolutely.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: I mean truthfully.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: In the beginning I used to be so nervous for every single recording And, to be honest, i still get the jitters even now, right before most recordings.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: And over the years I've developed a set of routines that I do before every recording.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: That has really helped me to settle in and get focused and kind of sink into the recording and leave everything else that's on my mind behind.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: So, like I usually will take like the first, i always block off at least 45 minutes to an hour before every recording And I close all my windows, all my work, anything not related to the person I'm going to be interviewing.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: I shut it all down And then I open up the questions that we sent to the guest and then I go through the guest social feeds.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: I go through the guests, like I just really kind of immerse myself in their universe And then, 15 minutes before recording time, i go to the bathroom, i get some water, i get a snack And then the five minutes before, and then I usually jump on like five minutes early and I just sit there and like try to kind of like meditate and zone out and like not think about anything, and I have found that that has served me really well And to support guests because, to your point, guests are often very nervous, especially if it's their first time on a podcast or doing any kind of public speaking in that way.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: We always send guests to questions ahead of time to help alleviate some of that anxiety.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: As you know, i do also tell every guest before we start recording don't worry, this is all pre-recorded.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: We're not live.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: So if you ever want to reword something or want to start again or go for it, take that time And that they'll get to hear the episode ahead of time and we can make those edits.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: A lot of folks often don't take me up on that, but you can like watch them, relax and to know and like, oh okay, this is super chill, it's fine, i don't have to be perfect.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: And when folks are more relaxed and not worried, i think that's when we sometimes get some of the best stuff.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: Not to invalidate like anxiety, because, like I get really anxious and I'm anxious for, like you know, all the things.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: No, i totally hear you and I totally get that.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: I remember one guest in particular that I want to emphasis that I had such a good time recording this interview with her.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: It was one of my most joyful experiences, like I want to say, like one of the moments that sticks out the most since joining the Dear Goh Collective family, honestly.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: So I really hope that she's okay with this, but Debbie from the Coconut Traveler was so much fun to record with.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: I just remember initially emailing her.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: I got a bounce back because, like one of her colleagues left and that's how I emailed.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: And then Debbie emailed me, being like, if you're still interested, i would love to be on this podcast.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh my God, i finally heard back from the coconut traveler.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: I wanted them so badly, not knowing Debbie at the time, but it was Debbie's first time being on a podcast and when she shared that with me I was just like, oh, okay, don't worry, get all your nerves out, this will just be fun.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: She was like my kids can't believe that you reached out to me.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: I just remember being like, wow, your kids don't know how great you are.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: So, anyways, it was just like Debbie's, and if you haven't listened to Debbie's interview.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: It's part of the UN SDG series.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: It was in sustainable cities and communities, but Debbie works at the coconut traveler and the coconut traveler.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: The main reason that I interviewed her, which I loved so much, was they implement a responsible tourism fee And Debbie's whole point about having her own business was that they believe that businesses need to operate as if everybody in this planet has a stake in what you're doing.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: You can't just use the hard work of somebody else to profit yourself.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: You have to contribute in a positive way.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: So the responsible tourism fee was a way that she charged her clients for traveling to Hawaii and it was her way of giving back to the community for the nonprofit work of fixing the trails that her tourists would go on or protecting the water that they were scuba diving in and everything else that she said And obviously she says it better than me.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: So go back and listen to that episode, but I just remember I hung on to every single word that she said in that interview.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: She was just so much fun.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: She was so herself.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: She was nervous.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: She asked to do a few retakes, but I mean, the cool thing is is listeners would never know how many retakes it took for her to say exactly what she wanted to say.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Because it's a recording, you can make those edits.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Anyways, my last little plug go back and listen to it.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Debbie's great.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I love Debbie.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Love that.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Which Ben kind of brings me to.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: that was my most fun episode to record an interview.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm just wondering I know that you have so many more to pull from But which of your guests was your favorite to record with?
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: And specifically, i mean, you mentioned talking to some big wigs and high up people, but was there a guest that you maybe never thought that you would stay connected with?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: And now you're like, through interviewing them on the podcast, you're like oh yeah, i have this really strong connection with them now.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, my gosh, this is so tough.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, this feels like I have to choose amongst my children.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I hate that for you, but I also kind of love them.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I mean I feel like every opportunity to interview somebody or have them on the show I've either learned something or I've grown or something great.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So I know that kind of feels like a little bit of a cop out, but it's also like super true.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: And, that being said, i definitely have some that stand out.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Lacey Chisholm sharing her story so vividly of how she started Fit for Dance was so inspiring, and I love how open and honest she was.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I think personal stories and episodes where I learn a lot are probably the two that I connect with the most, and especially when people are sharing the honest truth of how hard it is to navigate building a business and doing it with intention, with that keen eye on a triple bottom line, because it can be really challenging, because every decision you make matters so much, as every single decision impacts not just you but everyone in your organization, everyone upstream in your supply chain, and when I say everyone, i'm including all stakeholders, like the planet and other beings we share the planet with.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: But in our business in particular, we're delivering messages to millions of people every day on behalf of our clients, like that's a lot of responsibility and there's no small easy decisions, because every decision ripples out.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: So I think the other episodes that have really left a deep impression are the episodes where I felt I learned a lot or discovered a business doing something really unique.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: And this list I feel like a super long, but like ether diamonds turning carbon into air, like what?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Like using clean energy, like that's so wild.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Or a Borreo turning discarded fishing nets into hard goods, and now they're doing like fabrics and clothing you know Mears trackable giving, grayson's open hiring, better World Books giving and book reclaiming programs.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I did feel like I really connected with Dustin from Better World Books and just generally a huge fan of them.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Patagonia you know all that they do nationally and regionally And I do feel like Rebecca from Patagonia has been amazing And she actually she sent me a little we've had.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: We've had her on the show twice now And the first time we talked a lot about the vote, the ass holes out campaign that Patagonia did And she dropped in the mail a little pin that's like a pair of shorts and it says like and there's like the little tag this is like vote the ass holes out, like I don't know.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: that just meant so much to me, like that, just like warmed my heart so much, you know, i feel like I could go on and on all day, you know, with all of the different amazing impact businesses out there, but so much good work and inspiration happening and, truthfully, it's what really gives me hope for our collective future, without getting too heavy and emotional.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: On a completely different note, because it's not a podcast where, like you, interviewed somebody.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But I remember this day like very vividly And it was before I knew that I was joining Deer Go I mean, like years before When I listened to your pronouns episode, i was in the car Honestly, i think I was driving to like a ski race and it was such a great learning moment for me and I think it speaks volumes to the type of podcast that we're operating here, where we're just always trying to put the listeners learning first and the listeners curiosity first.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And at the time, as a listener, i was so curious to keep hearing more about pronouns and I ended up listening to that episode so many times.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Like in the middle I would stop rewind to listen to whatever you said, like multiple times, but you gave just so much great tips in there and I appreciated everything that you had to share And, yeah, like, thank you for doing that episode.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: That's one that sticks out to me so much.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and thank you for that That.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Really it means a lot.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that felt like a really important episode to do.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't love doing solo episodes.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You talk about anxiety.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: That's probably the hardest for me.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Solo episodes are like I hate them the most.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I think that's the only one I've ever done.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: If I never had to do them again I'd feel great about it, But anyway.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So I don't love doing solo episodes and I've had so many folks ask for clarification around pronouns or how to build more gender inclusive spaces, and I had a lot of friends encouraging me to do an episode about my own personal experiences in organizing, like political organizing and the LGBTQ community and all of that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And at that time I wanted to make sure every piece of content was really serving our audience and had actionable steps people could take, and so the pronouns episode was born And, to my surprise, it was actually one of the most downloaded episodes we produced that year.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: But this most recent Pride series was also a lot of fun to produce and was equally stressful, because I really wanted to thread the needle of sharing my personal experience, knowing how powerful and effective that can be in creating policy change.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: My hope is that if one of our listeners finds themselves in a voting booth voting on trans rights or LGBT rights.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Hopefully, if they didn't before now, they know a trans person and that will impact how they vote So that, while also offering the LGBTQ community and our listenership at large some things to be really hopeful and inspired by in a time that, frankly, has just been really scary and challenging, to say the least.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So I hope that that series accomplished that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I guess all of you listening can listen in and let us know if we hit the mark or not.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Right, and so that was the most recent series that we did.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So make sure, if you have no idea what series Ben is talking about, go back and listen to it, because it's a phenomenal series And Ben and our guests do a great job.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks for that, Brett.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It means a lot Of course We're a team.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'm here to support you.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Well, brett, i'm so curious Speaking of the Pride Enthusiasm and some of those impactful things you mentioned.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you talked about Debbie and what a powerful experience that was for you.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: You also have a lot of relationships in this B Corp space and movement.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Are there some of those relationships that maybe weren't born out of the podcast but that you've brought to the podcast, that have been really meaningful for you?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, i love that, ben, because, yeah, obviously, before I came here, i was a person in this B Corp space and I am opening myself up in this way of asking friends and these personal relationships that I have to share their insights on this podcast, and I do think that from those personal relationships, you see a higher quality episode and you see that relationship unfold, or you hear that relationship unfold.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I should say, and maybe listeners can guess which ones I'm talking about, because I think that the ones where I have that personal relationship shine through.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But I remember, at Champions Retreat in 2022, it was the first optional day and I'm on the Badass Women's History Tour in Philadelphia and my good friend, justin Wright was on the tour with me and we were walking around town from site to site.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: We were just chatting and catching up and he mentioned that his book was finally done.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And now, if you listen to that episode, you hear him mention that it took about 10 years to bring that book to completion.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So hearing him say in person to me that it was finally done and he had copies in his bag that he could give to me was amazing and I was so happy for him.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So I bring this up because, again, if you've listened to that episode, you'll hear I'm not the one who actually interviews him, but I was the one that asked him to be on the show and you do the interview with him.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So I guess my question is, how was recording with him?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in the sense of it was such a personal relationship to me to bring him on the show, to ask him to share his quote unquote life's work with you, but that was such a powerful episode to me.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, what was recording with Justin like?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, Justin is just amazing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You know, and I will say too that I think prior to that interview, you know I knew Justin like we had shared space, but I didn't like know Justin the way that you know Justin at that time And since having him on the show, I feel like I feel like the show really helped me get to know him better.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: You know one I learned a ton doing the prep for that interview.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Justin and the folks at Habitus are really incredible at what they all do.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I also like to do a lot of prep, going into all the interviews we do, and Justin sent along some great materials.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I watched a recording of one of his trainings and read his book and just the prep process I learned so much.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And Justin is such a great speaker and navigates the conversation so fluidly like he made my job so easy.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, that episode, if I remember right, has very little post production work done And I think just speaks to.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you know what a great, what a great presenter Justin is.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, I'm grateful for you making that connection and inviting him onto the show, because it was definitely a highlight for me for sure.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So, Britt, before we kind of wrap this up any final thoughts or reflections on, you know, on your experience so far that you want to share with listeners, and or things that you're really looking forward to doing on the show.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I would say truthfully, like this platform is such an awesome platform, i, without realizing how many of you are listening, it is wildly amazing to see How many of you are listening.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So, again, thank you for listening to this episode.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I know we say it at the end of almost all of our episodes, but, like to you in the community out there listening, thank you.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: You keep us going.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Remember that you can always reach out to us and add content if you want to hear more content at yourgocollectivecom.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But I will say, like I look forward to the guests that I don't yet know, that I become best friends with because of this platform.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: And yeah, like truthfully, I don't know you yet, i haven't met you yet, i don't know what you're going to talk to me about, but I know that it's going to be amazing And I know that this platform is going to continue to give me awesome relationships that dive into really great topics, and I'm just excited to see what's to come.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: We definitely have gone into this avenue of topic focused series And I really like those.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I think they push me as a human to think deeper on different topics instead of just staying on the surface.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see where the series lead us in the future.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to learn.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to continue working with you, ben.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I think you and I make this amazing energetic team And it's so fun to work with you.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, i mean I love our listeners that come back time and time again, every single episode, and listen no matter what.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So you mean a lot to me.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Please stay listening, but also please contact us.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about things that you want to hear.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So, ben, because you just loaded that question on me, i'm going to load it right back on you.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Why don't you close out this episode and tell me what you're excited for?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, my gosh.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Well, first off, i want to reciprocate that I am so grateful that you've joined the show and joined the team and all the things, because it is so much fun And I think our ability to bounce off each other is just a total blast, and to echo your sentiment, too, about encouraging folks to reach out to us, because, sure, we can see the stats and we know y'all are listening, but it can sometimes feel like we're talking into the void, so don't be shy, feel free to talk back.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Let us know what you're thinking, what you're liking, what you're not liking.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It only makes the show better And it helps us get to know you better too, which really, at the end of the day, i think that's what we're all about as people, like we're social beings And I think at least for myself, i know this period of remote work certainly has its benefits, right, like we can work from anywhere, which is really cool, and it's not without its challenges, right, and so I think, knowing that, you know it can be lonely in the work.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So, like, let's not do the work alone, right, like, let's be in community and let's not be shy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, we can drop notes to each other, not within an agenda, but just with like hey, i hope you're well, i appreciate you right.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Like I would love to send more of those types of notes out to our listeners.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I think what I most look forward to is continuing to learn and grow Like I.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Just I have learned and grown so much from this show.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You know, from the guests that have been on the show to producing this show, just everything surrounding it has really I don't know, it just has really been such a gift.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: So we're honored to be in this community with you all.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in And, as always, you know it, until next time, be responsibly different.