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- 0:00Speaker 1: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
- 0:26Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is Tony Lodge.
- 0:30Speaker 2: And joining us for another shot back money Diary, where
- 0:32Speaker 2: we chat to people in our community and they share
- 0:35Speaker 2: their stories with us, is Miss Victoria Divine.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Hello, how are you?
- 0:39Speaker 2: I'm good? Thank you. You're gonna like this one. I
- 0:41Speaker 2: say it every single week.
- 0:42Speaker 3: But you, I know we need to be more creative
- 0:44Speaker 3: with our intros. But literally, you trawl through money diaries
- 0:48Speaker 3: each and every single week to find the ones that
- 0:51Speaker 3: we're going to share on the show, and we get
- 0:53Speaker 3: so many great submissions. So I always put a lot
- 0:55Speaker 3: of pressure on you to perform and like pull out
- 0:57Speaker 3: the best of the best.
- 0:58Speaker 2: So I'm sweating bullets at the moment, hoping that you're
- 1:00Speaker 2: gonna love you.
- 1:02Speaker 3: So how about you read out the email and we
- 1:04Speaker 3: kick this off. Here we go.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Hi, She's on the Money team. Hey, I was listening
- 1:08Speaker 2: to your podcast and I remember Victoria mentioning that she
- 1:11Speaker 2: had a lot of clients that were in their early
- 1:13Speaker 2: thirties and had just been divorced and didn't even know
- 1:15Speaker 2: how to log into their bank app Well, I'm that girl.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I bought my first house when I was nineteen, after
- 1:21Speaker 2: working three jobs and saving to log into it. The
- 1:26Speaker 2: first three years, I was so broke I couldn't even
- 1:28Speaker 2: afford Christmas decorations. In twenty fourteen, my husband and I
- 1:32Speaker 2: moved into my parents place and started building a second house.
- 1:35Speaker 2: I got both houses on the market and started renting
- 1:38Speaker 2: them out. The houses were making a profit of almost
- 1:41Speaker 2: two K every month. When I was twenty nine, I
- 1:44Speaker 2: discovered my husband of ten years had been cheating.
- 1:48Speaker 3: The full time the whole time, and had.
- 1:50Speaker 2: A girlfriend for the last four years of our relationship.
- 1:53Speaker 2: I lost everything and gained a few STDs. By the
- 1:57Speaker 2: time I was able to get access to our bank accounts,
- 2:00Speaker 2: he had complete control over them. I saw that I
- 2:02Speaker 2: was only going to get one thousand, seven hundred and
- 2:05Speaker 2: fifty dollars. I soon found out that he'd gambled and
- 2:09Speaker 2: spent all of our savings on gambling and sex workers.
- 2:12Speaker 2: I also discovered we had a thirty K credit card debt.
- 2:16Speaker 2: What then I received the solicitor's bill for seventeen hundred dollars.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Actually had seventeen hundred dollars in her account.
- 2:24Speaker 2: So money in money, I've been able to manage to
- 2:27Speaker 2: turn that all back around. I bought a holiday house
- 2:30Speaker 2: last year and in the process of looking for house number.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Four, and I've bought a few shares.
- 2:35Speaker 2: I just want to share. I just want to share
- 2:37Speaker 2: my experience so I can help others in my situation,
- 2:40Speaker 2: because I know there are heaps of people like me
- 2:42Speaker 2: out there. What a dirty dog, and I really want
- 2:46Speaker 2: to get all the tea on this, And luckily dire
- 2:48Speaker 2: was on the line.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I know, heck dick, that happens in
- 2:55Speaker 3: real life. People have a girlfriend for four years while
- 2:59Speaker 3: being married. Money diarist, What on earth is your money story?
- 3:05Speaker 4: Well, it's a good one. It's gc.
- 3:08Speaker 3: We want all the tea money. Let's not talk about money.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Who is this guy? How do you do that? Did
- 3:14Speaker 3: you have any idea? Oh?
- 3:16Speaker 4: Look, I had a pretty good idea. He chewed on
- 3:20Speaker 4: me maybe five or six times prior to that, so
- 3:24Speaker 4: I should know one.
- 3:25Speaker 3: S that is so off. But right side, you're not
- 3:30Speaker 3: in that relationship anymore and you're essentially a property mogul.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Is that correct?
- 3:36Speaker 4: I think? So let's go with that.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Let's go with that. I have heaps of questions to you,
- 3:40Speaker 3: and I want to ask a whole heap of pervy ones.
- 3:42Speaker 3: But first we're going to go through our structured questions
- 3:45Speaker 3: to get all the baselines, and then we're going to chat.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Is that alright to dive straight in?
- 3:50Speaker 4: Go for it?
- 3:51Speaker 3: Great? So first questions first, what is your attitude towards money?
- 3:57Speaker 4: It's pretty good. Actually, I've had a pretty good age
- 4:00Speaker 4: towards money since I was a teenager and.
- 4:05Speaker 3: You bought your house. Yeah I'm still a child.
- 4:08Speaker 4: Yeah pretty much. Yeah, yeah, No, I've got a really
- 4:12Speaker 4: good attitude towards money and I've had that my whole life. Though.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I'm so excited to hear that you've always had a
- 4:17Speaker 3: really good attitude to money and it didn't push you
- 4:20Speaker 3: off the horse, to stay off the horse when you
- 4:22Speaker 3: went through something so traumatic.
- 4:24Speaker 4: Yeah all right, yeah.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Next question is what do you do for work and
- 4:28Speaker 3: how much money do you earn.
- 4:31Speaker 4: I'm a police officer and here I and I owned
- 4:35Speaker 4: one hundred and six k and this year, after this
- 4:38Speaker 4: financial he will be one hundred and ten.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Hold up, So someone had the audacity to cheat on
- 4:44Speaker 3: a police officer who.
- 4:46Speaker 4: He was one as well?
- 4:48Speaker 3: Whoa Oh my god, Is this a TV show? This
- 4:51Speaker 3: is a TV show. We're on Blue Heelers right now.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, theah why you hang on seeing as
- 5:00Speaker 2: this is all anonymous?
- 5:01Speaker 3: So police officers, is there a bit of lack a
- 5:04Speaker 3: Is it incestuous?
- 5:05Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it like a crazy industry where everyone's sleeping
- 5:08Speaker 2: with each other?
- 5:09Speaker 3: Clearly, Yeah, it is a bit like that.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Yeah, the culture is like that. It was really bad
- 5:14Speaker 4: when I first joined it. Heard of weird stuff up,
- 5:17Speaker 4: but not really. But yeah, it's quite quite the defense
- 5:21Speaker 4: force as well.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like that's quite common to kind
- 5:25Speaker 3: of like life ghoes with Like, you clearly have something
- 5:27Speaker 3: in common with those people, so it makes sense to matter.
- 5:30Speaker 3: It's like when doctors get married to other doctors. You're like,
- 5:32Speaker 3: of course you did.
- 5:33Speaker 2: You understand the industry. I'm never going to get home
- 5:36Speaker 2: And you go, well, I'm, you know, an accountant, so
- 5:39Speaker 2: I work nine to five. But a doctor's like, well,
- 5:41Speaker 2: you know, I've been working for seventy hours NonStop or whatever.
- 5:44Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, and it's not a normal job.
- 5:49Speaker 4: And then you do your work, so yeah, you can
- 5:53Speaker 4: understand why you get attracted to similar people in the industry.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought it was the uniform, but that
- 5:58Speaker 3: was just me.
- 6:00Speaker 2: So just a quick question about that. So obviously one
- 6:02Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand dollars, it's good, it's an amazing money.
- 6:06Speaker 2: How long does it take you to kind of reach
- 6:09Speaker 2: that point in the police force or is that like
- 6:11Speaker 2: a starting figure?
- 6:13Speaker 4: No, so that's ten years in the police force.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Wow, that's good career congresation, that's huge.
- 6:20Speaker 4: Oh. Look, sometimes I feel like I still don't get
- 6:22Speaker 4: paid enough, you know, I would agree.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are situations that you get put into, like.
- 6:30Speaker 3: I would absolutely agree, police ambulance, healthcare workers, teachers, like
- 6:34Speaker 3: all of you do not get paid nearly enough to
- 6:37Speaker 3: do the work that you do.
- 6:39Speaker 4: No, no, and then the work that the government asked
- 6:43Speaker 4: us to do can be a bit challenging as well.
- 6:45Speaker 3: So it's good to.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Ask, Like, through COVID and things like that, have you
- 6:49Speaker 2: seen the scope of what you do day to day
- 6:52Speaker 2: change a lot?
- 6:53Speaker 1: Or yeah?
- 6:54Speaker 4: Massively? Like you're doing your role past this COVID role
- 6:58Speaker 4: and you know, people gained dressed in leaguing, so you're
- 7:01Speaker 4: taking on their roles as well. You're not getting paid anymore,
- 7:04Speaker 4: You're just expected to do it.
- 7:05Speaker 2: That's really interesting to hear from your perspective how much
- 7:09Speaker 2: that's actually changed, because I guess the main narrative through
- 7:13Speaker 2: COVID has been people losing jobs.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Yeah, because you still have your normal work that hasn't
- 7:19Speaker 4: gone away.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, Well, thank you for your service is what
- 7:23Speaker 2: you say to I think.
- 7:24Speaker 3: So I'm always just like you guys are much cooler
- 7:27Speaker 3: than I like. It's a lot.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Crisp blue shirt. It does something direct.
- 7:32Speaker 3: We're not talking, sorry about that, Tony, Tony.
- 7:36Speaker 4: All right.
- 7:37Speaker 3: So next question is what is currently your big money goal.
- 7:43Speaker 4: I want to retire by the time I'm fifty. I
- 7:46Speaker 4: don't want to fifty. Yeah, got four hound money?
- 7:52Speaker 3: She does have four houses. That's very, very impressive on
- 7:55Speaker 3: the way.
- 7:56Speaker 4: I hope to get four hounds. Whether or not that happens,
- 7:59Speaker 4: she would the story.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Can I ask how old you are? Money diarist?
- 8:03Speaker 3: Thirty five, So she's still young. One hundred and ten
- 8:06Speaker 3: grand at thirty five.
- 8:08Speaker 2: So you've been a police officer since you were twenty five.
- 8:11Speaker 2: So you even bought your first house when you were nineteen,
- 8:14Speaker 2: so long before you had a career, full time job.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Yeah, you're asking questions. Story, all right. The next question
- 8:23Speaker 3: is and we are already no. Part of the answer
- 8:25Speaker 3: to this is do you currently have any investments?
- 8:30Speaker 4: Yes, I've got the houses that I own, and then
- 8:34Speaker 4: I've bought shares as well, so it's not many shares.
- 8:39Speaker 4: Is about fifteen thousand in shares.
- 8:42Speaker 3: There's not many. Okay, Well that's so good.
- 8:48Speaker 4: My partner does shares, and he does it a lot
- 8:50Speaker 4: more than me, so I just go, oh, that's a
- 8:52Speaker 4: little bit. So. The first chares I ever bought was
- 8:57Speaker 4: into a mortgage breaking company that approves applications in fifteen minutes.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Oh cool, I don't think I've heard it of that.
- 9:07Speaker 3: I'm going to look into it and going to ask
- 9:09Speaker 3: you offline question. Do you have any debts?
- 9:16Speaker 4: I do. I've got eight hundred and sixty thousand K
- 9:20Speaker 4: worth of debt, obviously because of the houses, but I
- 9:23Speaker 4: don't have credit card debts or a car loan or
- 9:26Speaker 4: anything like that.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really impressive, and I feel like that's good
- 9:30Speaker 3: debt for you to work towards your financial future, which
- 9:33Speaker 3: is really exciting. Next question we've started asking all our
- 9:36Speaker 3: money diarists because we want all the hot tubs, is
- 9:40Speaker 3: do you currently use shot back?
- 9:43Speaker 4: I've been on there, and I've had a look back.
- 9:45Speaker 4: I don't buy a lot of stuff, so I haven't
- 9:47Speaker 4: found anything to buy off there yet.
- 9:49Speaker 3: She's not like us. Tony's got control. That's really nice.
- 9:54Speaker 2: I like, i'd have three houses on the way to
- 9:57Speaker 2: buying four if I didn't buy so much shot back
- 10:00Speaker 2: cash backs looking on So that's pretty.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Good to watch.
- 10:04Speaker 4: I just sort of go, if it's meant to be
- 10:06Speaker 4: in my life, it will be on sale and they'll
- 10:08Speaker 4: still be there in my side.
- 10:10Speaker 3: That's a mentality. I can't get you to that.
- 10:15Speaker 4: I like that.
- 10:17Speaker 3: The next question which I feel like that is a
- 10:20Speaker 3: good money habit. But the next question is what is
- 10:22Speaker 3: your best money habit? Is there one better than that?
- 10:25Speaker 3: I don't think so.
- 10:28Speaker 4: Well. Luckily, I think you're going to live your life
- 10:33Speaker 4: a little bit, probably more so than what I do sometimes.
- 10:36Speaker 4: But my best money habit would be that every time
- 10:40Speaker 4: I get paid, like straight away, I pay all my rent,
- 10:44Speaker 4: you know anything else that's sort of I need to pay,
- 10:48Speaker 4: I pay up straight away, and then I check my
- 10:50Speaker 4: bank account every day or every second day, just so
- 10:53Speaker 4: I can keep on top of like I did grow throies.
- 10:56Speaker 4: I'm like two hundred and sixty dollars. All right, cool,
- 10:58Speaker 4: where's my bank I know I have debits coming out
- 11:02Speaker 4: from my phone, Okay, I need to have that in there,
- 11:04Speaker 4: and I've got poles and whatever else. I'm just across
- 11:08Speaker 4: the figures in my bank account every day.
- 11:11Speaker 2: I think that's a really good habit. And obviously, Victoria,
- 11:14Speaker 2: that you're the expert, I think that's a good habit
- 11:17Speaker 2: because I now use your method of using like having
- 11:22Speaker 2: a cash hub and it going through down into different
- 11:24Speaker 2: bank accounts.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Office is a cult, yes, it is.
- 11:29Speaker 2: And so because I know that it's all set up
- 11:32Speaker 2: so well, I actually have kind of fallen into the
- 11:34Speaker 2: habit of not checking it because I'm like, I don't
- 11:36Speaker 2: need to. I know it's fine.
- 11:38Speaker 3: And it feels comfortable, right, Yeah. I know that what
- 11:41Speaker 3: is in my food, fuel and fun account is what
- 11:43Speaker 3: I can spend and it's not going to negatively impact me.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Whereas I remember when I was a bit younger, I
- 11:49Speaker 3: used to just have one card and one bank account,
- 11:51Speaker 3: so it's.
- 11:51Speaker 2: One cash pull and you're like, I've got heaps of
- 11:53Speaker 2: cat I can go do groceries and it's two hundred
- 11:55Speaker 2: and sixty bucks and then like the next day, your
- 11:57Speaker 2: phone bill comes in, you're.
- 11:58Speaker 3: Like, oh, I wish I'd not done that, and it
- 12:01Speaker 3: can be really stressful. So that's why we want more
- 12:04Speaker 3: than one bank account to break those things up and
- 12:07Speaker 3: plan into the future. Because if you're not doing that,
- 12:09Speaker 3: I promise you, you're doing yourself a disservice. Like it's
- 12:13Speaker 3: so so empowering when you're in control.
- 12:16Speaker 4: Yeah, all my savings is in my opposite accounts, so
- 12:20Speaker 4: it's really hard for me to a genius.
- 12:22Speaker 3: So she's a genius.
- 12:23Speaker 4: Is that money?
- 12:27Speaker 2: Then I want to know what's your worst money habit.
- 12:31Speaker 4: My worst is probably me spending money and feeling guilty
- 12:35Speaker 4: about it. So that's a really bad habit. And I
- 12:38Speaker 4: get really grumpy and angry if by buy something for
- 12:41Speaker 4: myself or I haven't been well. So you know, I
- 12:44Speaker 4: spent seven hundred and fifty dollars on infusions and doctors
- 12:47Speaker 4: and medications last week, and I shouldn't.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Be feeling bad about that, feeling grateful that you have
- 12:53Speaker 3: access to being able to afford to do those things
- 12:56Speaker 3: and that you get to put yourself first.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Oh my god, exactly.
- 13:00Speaker 3: Well, a good money habit, and it's your good money
- 13:03Speaker 3: habit that has put you in that position.
- 13:06Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it just still makes me dirty.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Do you know what? Regardless, I feel like when it's
- 13:12Speaker 3: something that you're like, well, it's not like I just
- 13:14Speaker 3: went and splurged on a new pair of shoes to
- 13:16Speaker 3: treat myself, like I couldn't get out of this infusion.
- 13:20Speaker 3: I had to have it, and you're just a bit
- 13:21Speaker 3: dirty though so expensive. It's like, I get that, but
- 13:24Speaker 3: I definitely wouldn't say it's a bad money habit or go.
- 13:27Speaker 2: I really splurged on my own health the other day, Like.
- 13:31Speaker 3: I splurged and I paid for my antidepressants. Me.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Well, I do when I go on holidays, the l
- 13:40Speaker 4: actually holidays there the Yeah, I spent a ridiculous amount
- 13:44Speaker 4: of money on my holidays, so that's probably where I plurged.
- 13:47Speaker 3: You know what, live your best life about those holidays?
- 13:51Speaker 2: Well, I had wasn't allowed to ask about the police uniform,
- 13:54Speaker 2: so okay.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Okay, lucky. Last question, if we forced you to give
- 13:59Speaker 3: yourself grade, what would you grade yourself?
- 14:03Speaker 4: Still probably a B because I'd like to save more money.
- 14:06Speaker 4: I just spent too much money on too because I
- 14:09Speaker 4: hate cooking. So yeah, I am definitely supporting local at
- 14:13Speaker 4: the moment.
- 14:16Speaker 3: That.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Yes, yes, genius, I think as well, like you said before,
- 14:21Speaker 2: because you do shift work, it's a bit harder to
- 14:23Speaker 2: get into a routine, right.
- 14:26Speaker 4: It is very hard. Yeah, it is really hard. And
- 14:29Speaker 4: you're like, I'm hungry and at three o'clock in the morning,
- 14:32Speaker 4: and I shouldn't be hungry right now, and then you know,
- 14:34Speaker 4: the only thing that's open is a vending machine in
- 14:37Speaker 4: the station and next thing, you're having snakes, you know,
- 14:39Speaker 4: at three o'clock in the morning.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Nothing else there.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's true, and that's really hard to deal
- 14:45Speaker 3: with as well, because you're like, well, I actually didn't
- 14:47Speaker 3: have time to plan, but it's one Yeah, I could,
- 14:50Speaker 3: I could sympathize with that, but I'm always asleep at
- 14:53Speaker 3: three am.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Yeah, I think most people are sleep at three a criminal.
- 15:00Speaker 3: I just say, except for the ones. And that's why
- 15:02Speaker 3: you're at it.
- 15:04Speaker 2: All right.
- 15:04Speaker 3: We're going to go to a really quick break and
- 15:06Speaker 3: then we are going to ask you about your fancy holidays,
- 15:09Speaker 3: your ex partner, and Tony wants to ask you about
- 15:12Speaker 3: your uniform season money direst. We are back and I've
- 15:22Speaker 3: got a lot of questions because I feel like your
- 15:24Speaker 3: story is really colorful, from being cheated on to actually
- 15:28Speaker 3: buying your first home at nineteen to wearing a really attractive,
- 15:32Speaker 3: according to Tony uniform. Like, there's just a lot to cover,
- 15:36Speaker 3: but I think I want to start at the start,
- 15:38Speaker 3: if that's okay. At nineteen you weren't a police officer yet.
- 15:42Speaker 3: How on earth did you buy your first home?
- 15:45Speaker 4: Like?
- 15:45Speaker 3: What were you working in? How did you save?
- 15:48Speaker 4: Like?
- 15:48Speaker 3: How was that possible for a nineteen year old?
- 15:51Speaker 4: So back in the day, probably before a few people
- 15:55Speaker 4: were born listening to this podcast, we know.
- 15:58Speaker 3: How not that old.
- 16:02Speaker 2: You're actually like an eighty year old woman.
- 16:04Speaker 3: It's really bad day.
- 16:06Speaker 4: It feels like so long ago. So back then they
- 16:11Speaker 4: were giving out handout of fifteen thousand dollars for the
- 16:15Speaker 4: grant our first home. Bot Yeah, and you didn't have
- 16:18Speaker 4: to build a new home, so we saved up. I
- 16:23Speaker 4: think I was twelve or maybe fifteen, they're about so
- 16:26Speaker 4: the deposit for the house was twenty five Wow. The
- 16:31Speaker 4: first house that we bought was three hundred and five.
- 16:35Speaker 4: And back then you didn't even really have to have
- 16:38Speaker 4: a deposit. It was like one hundred percent loans that
- 16:41Speaker 4: you could get. So we obviously didn't get one hundred
- 16:44Speaker 4: percent of the loan. But we yeah, that's how we
- 16:48Speaker 4: got our first house.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Wow.
- 16:49Speaker 2: So what were you doing for work at the time then, Like,
- 16:52Speaker 2: what were you earning?
- 16:54Speaker 4: So I was a dental assistant.
- 16:57Speaker 3: Back then they earned money to a dentist for the
- 17:01Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. Actually, yeah, I've got a great dentist.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Yeah, or just indistry if anyone's interested in Melbourne.
- 17:09Speaker 3: Not sponsored yet, but she's working on it.
- 17:14Speaker 4: And my partner had just gone to the police force.
- 17:16Speaker 4: So us getting a home loan was quite easy.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Okay, because he was like in a service, Yeah.
- 17:22Speaker 4: In a service. Yeah. So back then you didn't have
- 17:25Speaker 4: the rules and regulations around the homeland and that's how
- 17:28Speaker 4: we got our first time. But like I said, so
- 17:30Speaker 4: broke couldn't afford Christmas decorations for the first year, and
- 17:34Speaker 4: I remember being so excited that I could afford layby
- 17:37Speaker 4: for the after Christmas hours and then went and got
- 17:39Speaker 4: my Christmas decorations.
- 17:41Speaker 2: So that's a really nice and really warm, wholesome memory
- 17:45Speaker 2: that you have that you worked really really hard to
- 17:47Speaker 2: put all your money into something and that like a
- 17:49Speaker 2: year later you could finally afford something.
- 17:51Speaker 3: That is so like every day gee, right, but like
- 17:54Speaker 3: one of those things where also Layby why don't we
- 17:58Speaker 3: have more labor people talk about? Why don't people talk
- 18:00Speaker 3: about lay By more lay by Land. We're not sponsored
- 18:03Speaker 3: by them. I just really like them. Layby land dot
- 18:05Speaker 3: com dot are you, I think is a really good
- 18:07Speaker 3: alternative to buy now, pay later, because you don't get
- 18:09Speaker 3: the item until you've paid for it, which is kind
- 18:11Speaker 3: of like that delayed gratification thing, like if you actually
- 18:14Speaker 3: want it, you'll wait for it, right exactly. Anyway, I'm
- 18:17Speaker 3: obsessed with them. They don't even know who I am. Like,
- 18:19Speaker 3: I've never spoken to them, but I'm like their biggest friend,
- 18:22Speaker 3: lou ky creepy. That's okay, but I just feel like
- 18:26Speaker 3: also Christmas decorations, buying them after Christmas is genius because
- 18:29Speaker 3: they're always on sale.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always so cheap.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Smart cookie.
- 18:33Speaker 4: Yes, my poor niece's nephews always get that. Easter does
- 18:37Speaker 4: as well, so.
- 18:39Speaker 2: You can get so much chocolate for not much money.
- 18:42Speaker 2: My boyfriend and I always go to Coll's like the
- 18:44Speaker 2: day after Easter Sunday and buy like heaps eggs and
- 18:46Speaker 2: then eat them through the ear a my kidding through
- 18:48Speaker 2: the year in the weekend.
- 18:52Speaker 3: So moving on, this partner of yours boyfriend became your husband,
- 18:58Speaker 3: is that right?
- 19:00Speaker 4: Yeah. So we got married before I was twenty one,
- 19:03Speaker 4: so I remember it was baby. I was a kid.
- 19:07Speaker 4: I was a baby, so was he. So you know,
- 19:10Speaker 4: he kidd of me before we got married. But being young,
- 19:15Speaker 4: you just go, we're working on this, and then when
- 19:17Speaker 4: you're married, you go, well you're married. You just don't
- 19:19Speaker 4: walk away from it. And so yeah, I worked with
- 19:23Speaker 4: him really hard, but I didn't realize that he was gambling.
- 19:26Speaker 4: And you know, I'd go to buy groceries and the
- 19:29Speaker 4: card would decline. I'd be like, that's weird. Why don't
- 19:32Speaker 4: we have any money? Like we're both you know, on
- 19:34Speaker 4: government wages now, like we should have a decent income food.
- 19:40Speaker 4: So yeah, and he said to me, I remember it clearly,
- 19:43Speaker 4: he said, you control everything else in my life. The
- 19:47Speaker 4: only thing you let me do is the money, So
- 19:49Speaker 4: let me do it.
- 19:50Speaker 2: So you were like, you can take control of that.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I was like, oh, maybe I am
- 19:56Speaker 4: controlling him and.
- 20:00Speaker 3: I was gas lighting you one hundred gas lighting me.
- 20:03Speaker 4: So it was when I went through the academy, we
- 20:07Speaker 4: obviously had to save up to cover the mortgage, so
- 20:10Speaker 4: I had one chance to get through the academy, which
- 20:11Speaker 4: is a lot of stress because you don't get paid
- 20:15Speaker 4: and you get you get a debt as well, so
- 20:18Speaker 4: which is another savings tacker. I don't know if it's
- 20:21Speaker 4: a hack, but I still pay my HEX every year,
- 20:24Speaker 4: so it's like pulse savings.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Even though you've paid your HEX. So do you get
- 20:28Speaker 3: an epick return?
- 20:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I know a whole heap of people that still do
- 20:33Speaker 3: that because they're like, I wouldn't save otherwise.
- 20:36Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, So I get a nice pay package
- 20:40Speaker 4: every financial year, and I'm like, see, so that helps me.
- 20:44Speaker 4: And then I went through the academy. I just buried
- 20:47Speaker 4: my head and we saved up enough money. Well, I
- 20:51Speaker 4: thought we did to build a second house at the
- 20:53Speaker 4: back of the house that we had purchased. But I
- 20:56Speaker 4: purposely picked the block that we purchased straight away because
- 21:01Speaker 4: it was a flat block and was able to be subdivided.
- 21:04Speaker 4: So I knew eventually that I wanted to subdivide it
- 21:06Speaker 4: and put another house out the back, and that's what
- 21:09Speaker 4: we did, and renovated the front house while we're building
- 21:12Speaker 4: out the back. So had that all going. I just
- 21:14Speaker 4: had my head in the sand, and I just sort
- 21:16Speaker 4: of knew. I knew something was happening, but you just
- 21:18Speaker 4: don't want to know at the same time for sure,
- 21:20Speaker 4: And the universe has a real funny way of going.
- 21:23Speaker 4: You know what. You can't run away from this anymore.
- 21:25Speaker 4: And I had a really bad cat and then to
- 21:28Speaker 4: the point where I couldn't walk anymore. So I still
- 21:34Speaker 4: have problems now, but I'm obviously still able to do
- 21:37Speaker 4: my job, so it's just a little bit more painful.
- 21:40Speaker 4: And everything stopped, Everything had to stop. And that's when
- 21:44Speaker 4: I started picking up on, you know, just things. So
- 21:48Speaker 4: I think they was doing but I'd never noticed before,
- 21:52Speaker 4: you know, spending hours on the toilet, the phone always
- 21:55Speaker 4: been flipped down, the screen was always down, just intertinct.
- 21:59Speaker 4: So then I confronted him and I may have done
- 22:03Speaker 4: a download on his old phone that he kept with him.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Get it, girl, what.
- 22:07Speaker 2: A police officer move?
- 22:09Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 22:10Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, you can do is that work, Sully?
- 22:12Speaker 4: There'll be a program that you can do. It's on
- 22:15Speaker 4: the internet.
- 22:16Speaker 3: And they don't cheat on a cop. What a plan.
- 22:19Speaker 2: They're also not endorsing this.
- 22:20Speaker 3: We're not endorsing this, but I don't know I have
- 22:23Speaker 3: girlfriends who have had partners cheat on them historically. Right,
- 22:26Speaker 3: So many people are like, oh, well, you should never
- 22:28Speaker 3: invade their privacy, and I totally agree, but I'd prefer
- 22:32Speaker 3: to be in this situation where I'm just really embarrassed
- 22:35Speaker 3: for having invaded their privacy, to the point where I'm like,
- 22:37Speaker 3: oh my god, Tony, I'm so sorry. I did look
- 22:39Speaker 3: on your phone. I was just feeling really nervous. But
- 22:41Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of the time, when you look, you
- 22:43Speaker 3: find something because you always have that gut instinct and
- 22:45Speaker 3: you're only looking because there's.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Been something telling something telling you.
- 22:49Speaker 3: That you should have And I'm kind of like, oh, like,
- 22:52Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with it, but in certain situations,
- 22:56Speaker 3: it's just the validation that you need to make the
- 22:58Speaker 3: right decision for you and you.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Yeah, but at this point, he was still controlling all
- 23:02Speaker 2: of your finances and everything.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 23:04Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So you did a download of his sign,
- 23:07Speaker 3: what'd you find?
- 23:08Speaker 4: Yep, that's when I found out he had the girlfriend
- 23:11Speaker 4: for four years.
- 23:14Speaker 2: You must have been absolutely heartbroken, and you've just been
- 23:16Speaker 2: through a car accident as well.
- 23:17Speaker 4: I lost this seeing kilos and this is where I've
- 23:20Speaker 4: got all my health issues from now from just making
- 23:24Speaker 4: myself sick over this breakup, and that's why I'm still
- 23:28Speaker 4: paying for medical wheels, which I'm dirty about anyway. So yeah,
- 23:34Speaker 4: So I did the download, got all the photos. I
- 23:37Speaker 4: sent him the photos because he was at work, and
- 23:39Speaker 4: I said, that's it. Were getting the divorce. You had
- 23:41Speaker 4: plenty of opportunities to tell me exactly what was happening,
- 23:43Speaker 4: and you didn't, And I said, that's it done. I
- 23:48Speaker 4: went and got an SDD check and at the time,
- 23:51Speaker 4: adopted didn't tell me to get a PAT smith, which
- 23:54Speaker 4: I'm going to just say to all the females, if
- 23:56Speaker 4: you ever get SDD check, get a pat me, because
- 23:59Speaker 4: that's when I found out. About two years old. I
- 24:01Speaker 4: did a PAPS to me and they said that I
- 24:03Speaker 4: had to servical cancer violist. Oh my gosh, and so
- 24:07Speaker 4: I had to pass me on Wednesday. On a Friday,
- 24:09Speaker 4: they called me and said You've got to go into
- 24:11Speaker 4: surgery on Monday, and I was like, what, so yes,
- 24:16Speaker 4: So if you're ever in that situation, get a PAP
- 24:18Speaker 4: to me test.
- 24:19Speaker 2: So I actually would like to jump on that as well.
- 24:21Speaker 2: I encourage everybody I know that it sounds really horrible
- 24:24Speaker 2: and invasive and scary. It's really not that bad. Please
- 24:27Speaker 2: just go and get it. There's nothing awkward about our vaginas.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Everybody's got one. If you are a vagina ha er,
- 24:33Speaker 2: please make sure that you're.
- 24:35Speaker 3: A vagina have er.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a vagina haber, like if you are.
- 24:38Speaker 3: The owner of a vagina, whoever you are, it doesn't
- 24:41Speaker 3: matter who you are.
- 24:41Speaker 2: If you're a vagina haver, get it, perhaps me out,
- 24:44Speaker 2: hire me for marketing.
- 24:45Speaker 3: Why am I doing this? Or you're not getting a
- 24:48Speaker 3: promotion to marketing. You can stay as our EP.
- 24:52Speaker 4: So then the divorce proceedings started, and obviously when we
- 24:57Speaker 4: figured out when I figured out that he was, I
- 25:00Speaker 4: went straight to the bank and opened up my own
- 25:03Speaker 4: bank account and transferred it was the one, seven hundred
- 25:06Speaker 4: and fifty dollars into my bank account, and I was like,
- 25:09Speaker 4: that's all I have. I was like, oh my god.
- 25:12Speaker 4: When I saw the bank account details, I was like,
- 25:15Speaker 4: that's all I have. Like, after you know, fifteen years
- 25:18Speaker 4: of working.
- 25:19Speaker 2: That's so heartbreaking for you.
- 25:21Speaker 4: It was really heartbreaking. And then I made the decision
- 25:24Speaker 4: to sell the house because I couldn't afford to paint
- 25:27Speaker 4: me out because by this stage it had gone through
- 25:29Speaker 4: a boom and then obviously having a second house and
- 25:32Speaker 4: they're being sub divided.
- 25:33Speaker 3: Yep.
- 25:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I just couldn't afford it on my wage, so
- 25:38Speaker 4: I had to sell it, which is very, very heartbreaking.
- 25:41Speaker 4: So I got a massive payout from that because the
- 25:45Speaker 4: homelan was in the two hundreds by that stage, and
- 25:49Speaker 4: obviously we sold it for about eight fifty, so I've
- 25:52Speaker 4: got a massive payout.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Well, like, I'm so glad to hear that, because hearing
- 25:57Speaker 3: that you had been left with nothing after working for
- 25:59Speaker 3: so long, long to know that you weren't left absolutely
- 26:02Speaker 3: high and dry, which happens to so many people. Yeah,
- 26:05Speaker 3: it's a good news story, even though it came from
- 26:08Speaker 3: a place where you're kind of forced into it.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And it was shit and I know
- 26:15Speaker 4: that house is worth to hit them all now, but
- 26:17Speaker 4: you just have to coup it on the chin and
- 26:19Speaker 4: keep going. So I bought a block of land down
- 26:22Speaker 4: Melbourne and built a house and then it just started
- 26:27Speaker 4: from there. So just and I bought a holiday house
- 26:30Speaker 4: down at the South Coast last year because I'm like,
- 26:36Speaker 4: I just need for my health somewhere to reconnect with nature.
- 26:40Speaker 4: And yeah, so now I let that out as a
- 26:43Speaker 4: holiday house because obviously you're working. I can't go down
- 26:46Speaker 4: there all the time. So yeah, that's a bit of
- 26:48Speaker 4: a slide huffle hustle now, so that makes me quite
- 26:51Speaker 4: a bit of income. That made us about seventy thousand.
- 26:54Speaker 3: What what you hold up? Hold up? Hold up? Why
- 26:57Speaker 3: was that not in the first Like you told me
- 26:59Speaker 3: that you earn one hundred and ten thousand dollars and
- 27:01Speaker 3: just forgot that you earned seventy grand in a side hustle? Yeah,
- 27:06Speaker 3: the hold on, hold on, all right? So we you
- 27:09Speaker 3: want to know how much do you purchase that house for?
- 27:12Speaker 3: And are you putting it on AMBNB? Like how are
- 27:15Speaker 3: you doing this? I want to know.
- 27:16Speaker 4: So originally it was on the market for nine ninety
- 27:20Speaker 4: and when COVID hits and everyone's like, the house prices
- 27:25Speaker 4: are never going to recover, and it took that big dip.
- 27:27Speaker 4: I knew the house prices were going to recover, and
- 27:30Speaker 4: we found this house and we offered six fifty for it,
- 27:33Speaker 4: and we saw that just straight away.
- 27:35Speaker 3: What you are. So they just took it and you
- 27:38Speaker 3: bought it for six fifty when it was worth nine ninety,
- 27:41Speaker 3: like you got a million dollar property for an epic discount.
- 27:45Speaker 4: We renovated it and made it a lot more homely
- 27:50Speaker 4: and yeah, our holiday house friendly, and yeah, it's been
- 27:55Speaker 4: booked out since we put it on the market. So
- 27:57Speaker 4: we have our own website that we often have it
- 27:59Speaker 4: on lights Day and river ride and Airbnb.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's the Gata house for that time.
- 28:04Speaker 3: But I feel like that's a side huszle that's rising,
- 28:07Speaker 3: having holiday houses. So now you've bought this house, even
- 28:10Speaker 3: though like six sixty is a lot of money, but
- 28:13Speaker 3: you've bought this house. Does the Airbnb cover the mortgage
- 28:17Speaker 3: or payments and stuff like that for you? So you're
- 28:19Speaker 3: now turning a profit or was that seventy k actually
- 28:21Speaker 3: the profit?
- 28:23Speaker 4: No, So the renovation costs us about forty five fifty thousand.
- 28:30Speaker 4: And I'm quite lucky because I've done renovations before and
- 28:32Speaker 4: built before, and my dad built us and we just
- 28:34Speaker 4: all went down there and knuckled in and did it ourselves.
- 28:38Speaker 4: So that's what was able to save us on the
- 28:40Speaker 4: renovation budget. But three payments about eighteen thousand a year,
- 28:45Speaker 4: and then you know you insurance rates and all that.
- 28:49Speaker 4: So you're probably looking about twenty five thousand, so we've
- 28:52Speaker 4: made quite a be a profit.
- 28:53Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so good. And as time goes on,
- 28:56Speaker 3: obviously those costs are going to go down because you're
- 28:59Speaker 3: not going to innovate every single year.
- 29:01Speaker 4: What are we in?
- 29:02Speaker 3: No congrats, I feel like you've bounced back incredibly well
- 29:07Speaker 3: given going through that would have been very traumatic. And
- 29:11Speaker 3: I know we don't have heaps of time left because
- 29:13Speaker 3: Tony keeps looking at me. But I'd really like to
- 29:16Speaker 3: note so this is something that we would never wish
- 29:18Speaker 3: on anybody, but unfortunately is really common for a partner
- 29:23Speaker 3: to not be faithful to you. How could we potentially
- 29:27Speaker 3: have our eyes a little bit wider to make sure
- 29:29Speaker 3: that we don't miss those signs, because, as you said,
- 29:33Speaker 3: you put your head in the sand about it, and
- 29:35Speaker 3: I know a lot of people do, right, And I
- 29:36Speaker 3: think that there's a misconception that the second you find
- 29:39Speaker 3: out your partner has cheated, you need to leave immediately.
- 29:42Speaker 3: But that doesn't work for everybody, and it's not necessarily
- 29:45Speaker 3: the right thing for each relationship. So even saying, oh
- 29:49Speaker 3: my god, I would leave immediately is just not helpful.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Because you're not in this situation you don't know you
- 29:54Speaker 2: and you.
- 29:54Speaker 3: Also don't know how that works, and just saying well,
- 29:56Speaker 3: I would leave immediately, like that's not constructive and pretty
- 29:59Speaker 3: entire really, yeah, exactly. So as someone who has been there,
- 30:04Speaker 3: how can we be more self aware? Like how can
- 30:07Speaker 3: we learn from what you've been through so that hopefully
- 30:10Speaker 3: we aren't in that situation.
- 30:12Speaker 4: The first one I'd say is, don't be too hard
- 30:14Speaker 4: on yourself if you don't notice it, because some of
- 30:16Speaker 4: them are really good at hiding and being deceiving and
- 30:21Speaker 4: just you know, love bombing you so you'll never see
- 30:24Speaker 4: the signs. Mine was a bit slower and thicker, so
- 30:28Speaker 4: I could see the signs. I just chose to ignore them.
- 30:31Speaker 4: I also believe in gut instinct. As females, we've really
- 30:34Speaker 4: got to listen to our gut instinct. I'm quite spiritual
- 30:39Speaker 4: in that sense, Like I sit down, I meditate every morning,
- 30:42Speaker 4: and I just listen to the signs and what gets
- 30:44Speaker 4: told to me during my meditation. So I absolutely believe
- 30:48Speaker 4: just in your gut, you know what's happening. Yeah, you know,
- 30:54Speaker 4: if something doesn't feel right, it's probably not right. If
- 30:56Speaker 4: you've gained something and it doesn't make sense. It's probably
- 30:59Speaker 4: a lie, you know, and just things like flipping the
- 31:02Speaker 4: phone down, going into the bathroom for aig, it's being
- 31:05Speaker 4: really kag you around their computer and their phone, you know,
- 31:09Speaker 4: the whole gas fighting. I know in that situation you
- 31:12Speaker 4: can be so bitten down that you don't realize you're
- 31:15Speaker 4: being gas fighters. So I really think it's a gut interstinct,
- 31:20Speaker 4: and it was a gut instinct for me, but I
- 31:21Speaker 4: just truce to ignore it.
- 31:23Speaker 3: Yeah, but ignoring it obviously didn't serve you. But at
- 31:26Speaker 3: the same time, I think we face the things we
- 31:28Speaker 3: need to face when we need to face them, and
- 31:30Speaker 3: not any earlier. It's kind of like financial literacy, Like
- 31:33Speaker 3: you could have told me all of these things when
- 31:35Speaker 3: I was twenty years older, but you weren't ready to
- 31:37Speaker 3: hear it. I wasn't ready to hear it. I didn't
- 31:39Speaker 3: want to do those things. I didn't want to say
- 31:40Speaker 3: if I didn't want to invest. And that's why I
- 31:42Speaker 3: always say, don't be harsh on past you, because they
- 31:44Speaker 3: were just doing the best that they could with the
- 31:46Speaker 3: tools and resources that they had at the time, whereas
- 31:49Speaker 3: right now you have more. But it doesn't even mean
- 31:51Speaker 3: that you would have used them historically, So I think that, yeah,
- 31:54Speaker 3: you're right, we shouldn't be harsh on ourselves for those things,
- 31:57Speaker 3: and we probably should just be kinder to ourselves in
- 31:59Speaker 3: every situation.
- 32:00Speaker 4: And I really do believe that the universal step and
- 32:03Speaker 4: go right. You've been ignoring this for too long. We're
- 32:05Speaker 4: gonna make sure you pay attention.
- 32:07Speaker 3: I always find it really interesting because my mum always
- 32:10Speaker 3: tells me like, if you want something, just ask the universe,
- 32:12Speaker 3: and the universe will deliver what exactly what you need.
- 32:15Speaker 3: And I know that that sounds really fluffy, and a
- 32:17Speaker 3: lot of people be like, oh, I don't actually believe
- 32:20Speaker 3: in that, Like you can't manifest things, and I'm like cool.
- 32:22Speaker 3: But also if it's at front of mind for you
- 32:24Speaker 3: and you're articulating these things, they are more likely to happen.
- 32:27Speaker 3: So whether you believe in it or not, just actually
- 32:30Speaker 3: looking for signs and finding affirmation in the things that
- 32:33Speaker 3: are in your world can actually help guide you to
- 32:36Speaker 3: the right decision, whether you believe in quote the universe.
- 32:39Speaker 4: Or not or not. Yeah.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just think that that's a really powerful
- 32:43Speaker 3: thing as well, and just trusting your gut. I feel
- 32:45Speaker 3: like I've learned a lot about that and pray that
- 32:47Speaker 3: I'm never in a situation like that. But yeah, the
- 32:50Speaker 3: idea that someone managed to hide an entire girlfriend for
- 32:54Speaker 3: four years, that's wild, terrifying.
- 32:56Speaker 4: Yeah, you can definitely bounce back some stuff like this,
- 32:59Speaker 4: and I really do believe that lessons are to be
- 33:02Speaker 4: learned from it. As hard as they are, you definitely
- 33:04Speaker 4: come out there on the other side.
- 33:07Speaker 3: Oh my god.
- 33:07Speaker 2: I just feel so proud of everything you've been through
- 33:11Speaker 2: and like how you've come through and.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Your attitude and just the fact that you're like, no,
- 33:15Speaker 3: like the universe was trying to tell me something and
- 33:17Speaker 3: I wasn't listening, and you've kind of taken it in
- 33:19Speaker 3: your stride. You're really cool. We're our best friends, right.
- 33:24Speaker 4: If you knew how nerdy I was.
- 33:26Speaker 3: I'm sorry what you're talking to a financial advisor? Like,
- 33:30Speaker 3: I think that we're two peas in a pod, my.
- 33:32Speaker 2: Friend, But the fact that you came back from someone
- 33:35Speaker 2: controlling your finances and were able to be like, you
- 33:39Speaker 2: know what, I'm actually just going to take control of
- 33:41Speaker 2: this myself. And now look at you.
- 33:42Speaker 3: You've got three.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Houses, about to buy another one, You're going to retire
- 33:46Speaker 2: by the time you're fifty, you've got an amazing job.
- 33:48Speaker 2: You've got this side.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Hustle going like this is so exciting.
- 33:52Speaker 2: Exactly, and it's just it feels really special that we're
- 33:55Speaker 2: a part of it, that you're sharing your story with us.
- 33:57Speaker 2: So thank you so much for your time.
- 34:00Speaker 3: No thank you, And just before we head off, we'd
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