Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Signs Your Girlfriend Will Continue Liking Sex After Marriage
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom show today. I am going to talk about by
- 0:11Facebook follower request. Signs that your girlfriend will
- 0:14continue to, like, sex after marriage.
- 0:16I've obviously discussed the inverse quite a bit.
- 0:19The red flags that your partner will stop liking sex after
- 0:22marriage and kids, but I'll go into depth about what to look
- 0:25for. I've done that in the
- 0:28compatibility post, but not fully just about this topic,
- 0:32which we should get into, so that, You know, you're aware
- 0:36that there are signs that, that are, you know, that somebody's
- 0:40more inclined to Value physical touch over the long-term
- 0:44although nothing is set in stone with that.
- 0:46And I'll discuss that too before that though.
- 0:49You should subscribe. The most recent episode is about
- 0:54you should divorce. When you're accepting of the
- 0:57divorce versus when you're angry and can't stand your partner.
- 1:00Because if you do it, when you're super angry, it will be a
- 1:03contentious horrible. All thing to put your kids
- 1:05through and you could avoid that by doing the necessary work to
- 1:10process and groove the end of the marriage, prior to the
- 1:13marriage end, which is what a lot of people don't realize.
- 1:17All right? So turning the topic at hand, I
- 1:19mean we could talk about science that your husband will stop
- 1:21liking marriage after stop liking that are signs, your
- 1:25husband will stop. Liking marriage, would be funny,
- 1:28funny topic but signs that your husband will stop liking sex.
- 1:31We could do that too. But the main one, the only one
- 1:34Ever seen correlate, is does your husband not like sex that
- 1:38much, and that brings me to an interesting topic, which is,
- 1:42this is the same so all y'all that exists, everybody raise
- 1:47your hand, the high like an amazing like super fulfilling,
- 1:51erotic connection prior to marriage and then she was just
- 1:54like, actually fuck you. I don't like any of that, that's
- 1:57not real, the vast vast majority of the people that I work with,
- 2:03who end up in sexless or very unfulfilling sexual
- 2:06relationships. Can if they try, see the origin
- 2:10of these signs that the origin of this sexlessness in the
- 2:19earliest, sexual encounters. Sure you were having a little
- 2:22more sex then maybe even a lot more sex.
- 2:24But what happened when you suggested something new?
- 2:27What happened? When you were playful in bed?
- 2:29What happened? When you try to share a fantasy?
- 2:32What happened? When you got hard at an inn?
- 2:34Cartoon moment, when she grows doubt.
- 2:36Yes, yes, yes she was for the last end.
- 2:40What happened is basically nothing good for any of the
- 2:42prior things that I said, usually people like to, you
- 2:47know, get themselves off the hook for things.
- 2:49So they're like, man, I never could have told that she wasn't
- 2:52going to like sex after marriage.
- 2:54What a bait-and-switch women man, you know, can't live with
- 2:58them. Can't kill him, right?
- 3:00So this is like, actually would be a good attitude compared to
- 3:04some of the The people that get very angry with me on social
- 3:07media about. For example, the fact, the
- 3:10statistic, the fact that men cheat more frequently than
- 3:14women, because they have 1,000 billion zillion times more
- 3:17testosterone. Oh shit.
- 3:19But like, I mean but people are like, really upset if you say
- 3:24something like that, because there are guys and women to,
- 3:27this is cross gender, people like to be victims, don't be
- 3:31these people don't be somebody who puts your head so far.
- 3:34Are into this and you know that you can't see that, you not your
- 3:39fault but you missed and didn't look at real deep red flags that
- 3:46this person was going wasn't what you thought, wasn't what
- 3:50you wanted them to be. This person was not what you
- 3:53wanted them to be. It is incredibly rare for a man
- 3:57to say that he married the best sex of his life.
- 3:59Unless of course she was the only sex of his life in which
- 4:01case he is factually. Correct.
- 4:03But a man Let's say that had multiple partners, marries the
- 4:07most sexually open one, the one who is initiating the one who
- 4:11sang, wouldn't this be fun, wouldn't that be fun?
- 4:13The one where you come home and she's in lingerie.
- 4:15The one who is, you know, sending you sexy pictures during
- 4:20the day, the one who wants to do everything in bed that this is a
- 4:23valued part of her life that her sexual identity is super
- 4:27important to her and then it just goes to nothing and she's
- 4:31grossed out by everything. It doesn't really happen.
- 4:33It doesn't happen that much. If it does happen a she's not
- 4:37grossed out like she's just like, no, because you don't go
- 4:41by the way, from somebody who's not grossed out by sex to
- 4:44somebody who is yes. There is of course the
- 4:47inhibitions are lower during the honeymoon phase and you can go
- 4:50from someone who will do things because basically their
- 4:55adrenaline is pumping to somebody who is who they're
- 4:59grossed out nastas is revealed in its full Glory but date you
- 5:04go from somebody who thinks who's open-minded about sex to
- 5:07somebody's closed-minded. It just it's not it's not a
- 5:10thing that happens. If it does happen, it is due to
- 5:13some tremendous life change, like, like they get raped or
- 5:21some something terrible, you know, or like they have a
- 5:25horrible trauma happen, or they are even when they're very
- 5:29depressed is still not that they go to that group.
- 5:32They're grossed out by sex, they just don't want You know, even
- 5:36when they have children and they're touched out, it doesn't
- 5:38mean that they're grossed out. And even when they fucking hate
- 5:41you, because you're not perfect either and the marriage goes to
- 5:45shit. They're still not disgusted by
- 5:47sex if they didn't start out that way.
- 5:50But guys do not understand. Some guys, especially with low
- 5:54self-esteem and the next thing that I'm going to record is
- 5:56about so you know like keep listening is that guys with low
- 6:02self-esteem pick? Women, who are that into them in
- 6:06the beginning as do women with low self-esteem?
- 6:09And then they later the woman gets even less into them and
- 6:15then they finally, it's so dramatic that they can admit,
- 6:19there's a problem, but like they wouldn't have, they didn't even
- 6:22understand that. Women could really be into them.
- 6:24And when some women were into them, they were not into these
- 6:27women because classic Imago Theory, didn't feel like home
- 6:31felt like why is this woman out my ass all the time wanted to
- 6:33hang out? I don't That oh, you know who
- 6:36I'm going to go for that one over there, that has more things
- 6:38to do than just hang out with me all the time.
- 6:40It's a challenge. That's a high quality woman by
- 6:45definition that one over there who doesn't want to fuck me, is
- 6:48a high quality woman. So says the man with low
- 6:51self-esteem, inarticulately nebulously in his brain, I see
- 6:56this all the time and I see it in the gender inverse women have
- 6:59men who want to you know, do everything for them.
- 7:02They're like oh you're cute friend zone.
- 7:04I'm going to go from mr. Asshole, is this all women?
- 7:07Certainly not despite what you may read on the internet.
- 7:11That is not accurate at all healthy.
- 7:13Women like the guy who likes them that for a healthy person.
- 7:17Seeing that somebody likes you that you think better of them,
- 7:21you think they have good taste. They like me because you heard
- 7:24growing up as a kid that you're good.
- 7:26That you are a good person that deserves good things to happen.
- 7:30And you are an appealing, delightful person to be with.
- 7:33And if you hear that, then you Leave it, you know, but all the
- 7:36people who didn't hear that when somebody likes you too much,
- 7:40it's thought to be a bad sign. It's like, woah, look at that
- 7:43stupid idiot likes me the fuck's wrong with that person, right?
- 7:47So let's let's be real here. The 99% of people that are in
- 7:54sexually unfulfilled in relationships, had knew it could
- 7:58have known it at the very beginning, but they were people
- 8:03who didn't Want to see it because they were not attracted
- 8:07to anybody. That was too into that.
- 8:09So it's a very interesting thing, when you go back, like,
- 8:13with a therapist, let's say so guys, and I've said this before,
- 8:16but it's Merit saying, again, just very relevant to this
- 8:19topic. Guys are like, yeah, used to be
- 8:22great. We had a great sex life.
- 8:23Oh, yeah, really, when you were dating, how is so?
- 8:25So you were having sex all the time?
- 8:27Well, no, you know, not all the time but more we're having sex
- 8:31more and she would do more things.
- 8:33Oh, so that's when The oral sex. Well, you know, I mean, depends
- 8:37what you mean by oral sex? Yeah, you know, for like for a
- 8:40couple minutes, it was never her favorite but you know, she did,
- 8:44she did she did do it, she put it in her mouth.
- 8:46I remember was March 15th 2004, she did.
- 8:50It was eight seconds. Oh, but do you know, you have
- 8:53these BDSM thing that you like to do?
- 8:55I assume then in the early life she did that.
- 8:57Well you know she she she has these things.
- 9:01She likes and these things she didn't but you know, it was
- 9:04okay. Okay, because we were having
- 9:05sex, you know, you know, and she seemed to like it sometimes she
- 9:10had an orgasm, you know. I think think she did that.
- 9:13I definitely think she does. Sure, don't press me too hard.
- 9:17Not exactly. Sure, but you okay.
- 9:19And yeah, we did. We, we did have 90 seconds of
- 9:24what I now recount it was. I even at the time, fearly
- 9:29closed off. Disconnected, sex, but she did
- 9:32afterwards say she loved me and that's what.
- 9:34To get back to, you know, it's like it's like, you know, you
- 9:39know, it what it wasn't ever what you wanted, but when you
- 9:43don't have high self-esteem than you think that you a that all
- 9:48women will kind of not really be that into you and be that, you
- 9:51know, the women who are are somehow subpar.
- 9:55So, whatever and take this for what it is with this is God's
- 9:59honest truth and you should reflect on it so much because if
- 10:02you are actually single and Vorst at this point and wanting
- 10:05somebody else. You may find yourself drawn to
- 10:07the women who don't like you again, don't fucking do that.
- 10:10You went down that road. You may find yourself drawn to
- 10:13the women. Who are like, no, I don't do
- 10:15this, this, this, this and this in bed, but I do do these two
- 10:17things. Would you like those two things
- 10:19right there, penis and vagina intercourse?
- 10:22And you know? And you know well, I think it's
- 10:27one thing actually. Now that I think about it, but
- 10:29it's a good thing, right? I mean you know that's what men
- 10:31like isn't. It don't go down that road.
- 10:35So, all right, that was my big Preamble, but here are the
- 10:38signs, that a woman would like sex.
- 10:40Like, you don't know these. I mean, all of them are
- 10:42commonsensical, but I will just belabor the point as I was asked
- 10:46to do they, like physical touch can't get over this one?
- 10:50A woman who likes sex. Okay, a woman who will still
- 10:54like sex after the honeymoon stage, Fades is a woman who
- 10:56always like physical touch, so that means that she's Huggy
- 10:59kissy touchy-feely. She likes to cuddle, she likes
- 11:02to get her back rubbed. She likes that get her feet.
- 11:04Rob, she likes all these things. She can't live without physical
- 11:08touch. She follows you around for
- 11:10physical. Touch, does that sound like your
- 11:12ex-wife that didn't like sex now or your current wife?
- 11:15No, never. So think about it already.
- 11:19I'm not saying that a 24 year old man should know this.
- 11:22What I'm saying is don't beat up yourself or your wife verbally
- 11:28or think that it was some kind of bait and switch it.
- 11:30When you go through these you'll realize she didn't have any of
- 11:33them if you're complaining about.
- 11:34Now, you know that she doesn't like sex, she didn't have any of
- 11:38these signs that she would not that you were supposed to know
- 11:40that. But anyway, so this woman
- 11:42really, really likes. Physical touch.
- 11:44He likes it with a friend. She likes it with her kids.
- 11:45She likes it with her dog. She likes it with everybody.
- 11:47She herself wants physical touch all the time, next open
- 11:52mindedness around six. This is key.
- 11:54She has to want to talk about sex, talk about fantasies.
- 11:58This is a big part of her. Identity is being a sexual
- 12:00person. Oh my God.
- 12:02Guess what? This might come with, hold on to
- 12:04your Hat. But it may come with a plethora
- 12:06of sexual experience. So if your low self-esteem
- 12:09prohibits you from being with a woman that ever enjoyed sex
- 12:12before she met you, well then I got up an unpleasant Truth for
- 12:17you which is that if you want to marry a woman who likes sex,
- 12:22unless she is a 16 years old in which case you could take this
- 12:25one off the. But you know what?
- 12:26She probably even then would have liked his somebody before
- 12:29you and and had a sexual relationship.
- 12:31But even if she didn't if you met a woman It's in her 20s.
- 12:35In the first time she enjoyed sex was with you.
- 12:38It's not because you are a porn star.
- 12:40It's because she doesn't really enjoy sex.
- 12:42And so, you know, I mean, she didn't enjoy sex.
- 12:45She didn't want to have sex that bad.
- 12:47She had sex a couple times, she didn't really like it and now,
- 12:50she quote likes it with you. Well, does she really or does
- 12:53she just loved you and though, she not even no difference
- 12:56because she doesn't know what good sex is, which I talk about
- 12:58all the time, women with low, sex drive.
- 13:00So I'm really know what good sex is.
- 13:01So they assume that it's having penis in vagina intercourse.
- 13:04With a man that you love, that is good sex.
- 13:06That's what they think it is. So anyway, open-mindedness
- 13:10sharing a fantasies bringing sex up as a topic flirting talking
- 13:14about things talking about Pat, sexual experiences, wanting to
- 13:18know about your past sexual experiences.
- 13:20Some you like sex? I mean, really like somebody who
- 13:22likes to think about it and talk about it.
- 13:24Somebody who has previously been in a relationship that did not
- 13:27become completely sexless? Well, that's a good sign for
- 13:31yours. Not becoming completely sexless
- 13:32in the future. If you even when she Did her
- 13:34ex-husband? They still did have sex good
- 13:36sign for you because that means, even if she hates you in the
- 13:39future, you'll still have sex. Right?
- 13:43What else? I mean, if the woman is
- 13:46introspective in general, and knows that a relationship is
- 13:49something you need to work on, not an idealist that things, you
- 13:53know, that life is a Nicholas Sparks movie and the notebook
- 13:57and, you know, or any other ones and he was an author by the way,
- 14:02I only mentioned him because he's wrote the book that know.
- 14:04A book and I read it years ago. So I know one romance novel.
- 14:08But anyway, so if she thinks that, oh, we just fit together
- 14:13so perfectly and we're never gonna have to work on our
- 14:15relationship ever and our sex will be effortless forever.
- 14:19Then she's a fool either. She's very young or she's a
- 14:22fool, you know? And if she's very young then you
- 14:25could start to say things if you're probably then also very
- 14:28young. I hope I hope that I'm not
- 14:31talking to any 50 year old men that are saying, boy, I Have a
- 14:3420-year sex life with the 24 year old that I'm dating man
- 14:40you're going to be like 70 something like even the most
- 14:44narcissistic Guy cannot imagine that it's 70 something he would
- 14:48be able to really you know please a 40 year old woman but I
- 14:51mean, I don't know. Like who knows what people think
- 14:54the point being is that in that case by the way if you want to
- 14:57do 20 years younger, you should certainly date a lower libido
- 15:00woman because then you will kind of Matt max out at the Same
- 15:04level, you know, after the honeymoon stage, and after
- 15:07things, go a little bad for you. Because men do not have the same
- 15:10sex drive in their 50s 60s, and beyond that, they do in their
- 15:1230s 40s and lower, but that's an aside.
- 15:16So the point being here, it has to be a woman that likes sex,
- 15:21that likes touch. That's always like sex.
- 15:24That's always like, touch that likes, talking about things
- 15:27openly, whether they are sex or the relationship and that is
- 15:30committed to making the marriage work.
- 15:32So if it's somebody were you Ask for a blow job and they're like
- 15:36disgusted and like I'm not in the mood.
- 15:40This isn't somebody to be with, this is the fucking honeymoon
- 15:43stage. If you are dating somebody in
- 15:44the honeymoon stage they don't like a blowjob.
- 15:47When do you think they're going to like it?
- 15:49Like I mean really whenever they are never going to like it.
- 15:52This is the most that they would ever like it and they don't like
- 15:55it. So for you to then say it will
- 15:57change. It's not going to change if
- 16:00you're trying to talk about fantasies and she's like, yo, I
- 16:03would never want to think about. about you with another woman
- 16:05ever, you Ew, it's not an appropriate response with it.
- 16:11A high like libido marriage, you know, a highly sexual marriage.
- 16:16There's no you, you know, if it's you then it will.
- 16:18If it's you about one thing, it's going to start to be you
- 16:20about everything. So you then you could say, does
- 16:23this mean that I can't have any things.
- 16:24I don't want to do, of course. I mean, everybody has something
- 16:27they don't want to do but you is different.
- 16:30So there should be. No, no, ew, no gross.
- 16:33No, that's immoral, none of it. Like, if you I said to your
- 16:37wife, I want to have sex, you know, what my fantasy is.
- 16:41I don't want to do it because I love you but what I think about
- 16:43is I think about having sex with three women at once and she's
- 16:46like ill oh my God ew I never thought.
- 16:49Oh my God, oh my God. Like what what did you say?
- 16:53You didn't say that you you know want to have non-consensual sex
- 16:57with a yak you know I mean it's like it's like when men just
- 17:01like they were like oh well that's cute.
- 17:03Women are different than men she's a gentle.
- 17:07Little delicate flower, she's a gentle delicate flower.
- 17:11She's a woman that shitting on your fantasy life.
- 17:13You got to see the difference so to regroup to be clear she's got
- 17:21to like sex. She's got to like touch.
- 17:22He's got to talk about fantasies.
- 17:23There can be no judgment and women like this exist certainly
- 17:27certainly they do. What do they not have the magic
- 17:30thing that you're always looking for secretly that?
- 17:32They don't may not have, they may actually like Q.
- 17:37So, if you subconscious Lee, get off on having to be the pursuer
- 17:42because you do not think that you are worthwhile enough, any
- 17:46woman of any value pursuing you, then that's it.
- 17:49You got to work on in therapy and if you don't, you will end
- 17:51up in the same situation of basically the Martyr and the ice
- 17:54queen refer to my podcast with that name, the Martyr and the
- 17:57ice queen and you'll end up in that situation for the rest of
- 18:00your life over and over like some kind of, you know, Rod
- 18:04Serling like you know, Jackoff fantasies I see, you know, I'm
- 18:08like like like the Twilight Zone Redux the man who can never be,
- 18:12sexually fulfilled and ironically gets into the same
- 18:15exact sexual relationship over and over and over.
- 18:19You don't want to be that you don't want to be that but you
- 18:21will be that if you ignore the things like you like don't touch
- 18:26me. Like my ex only wanted me for
- 18:29sex. Like I don't know, like all of
- 18:33the judgmental comments about touch or sex or whatever.
- 18:37You also by the way when you get into another relationship again,
- 18:41you do not want somebody who has, who puts you on a pedestal.
- 18:45So I'm not saying to be with a woman who idealizes you beyond
- 18:51all rationality because then you're going to fall right off
- 18:53and get T value. That's usually a woman with
- 18:55borderline personality. There's the same women that do
- 18:57the shit tests. Go to my shit, test podcast.
- 19:00So if you you know kind of a regular dude that just happens
- 19:05to like have progressed in his Career and not to be a shitty
- 19:08father. If you're interacting with a
- 19:10woman after you divorce your wife or if you're single now if
- 19:15you're interacting with a woman that's like, oh my God, you're
- 19:18the perfect man. Nothing will ever be wrong in
- 19:22our relationship. You are the exact opposite of my
- 19:26ex in every way. Look at you.
- 19:27You're an amazing. Father, you're an amazing man.
- 19:30You're so smart and so handsome. And so wonderful, watch the fuck
- 19:36out. Shit is crazy.
- 19:38That is idealization and that will flip to devaluation the
- 19:43minute that the honeymoon stage ends.
- 19:46And you can see it because she probably toxic her ex's.
- 19:49The biggest piece of shit on the planet, never a good sign.
- 19:53Do not sweep in there like mr. Idiot White Knight on the horse
- 19:58to save her from her supposedly. Toxic ex he's not that toxic.
- 20:03You're going to realize it. And I get, I give you three.
- 20:06The years to realize. Hmm, he may have had a point I
- 20:12kind of understand what their fights were about.
- 20:14Now that I have fallen off the pedestal into disgrace and I
- 20:18should probably and we'll probably do a podcast on this
- 20:21about how to tell how to not trust the person that puts you
- 20:26on a super big pedestal of thinking that you're absolutely
- 20:30perfect. This is a no way what I mean by
- 20:31finding a partner that likes you a partner that likes, you knows
- 20:34that you're also a real person. Bad sign sign that you're
- 20:38involved with somebody. Who's either has borderline or
- 20:40narcissistic, traits is when they can see, absolutely nothing
- 20:44wrong with you at all. And you are the sole perfect
- 20:48person that will rescue you from their life, which was peppered
- 20:52and littered with so much disappointment and so many
- 20:56horrible bad people. Bad sign, bad sign but I could
- 21:00talk about that and its own podcast and I will alright.
- 21:03Well hopefully this was practically and pragmatically.
- 21:06Well, as well as leading to more deep psychological insight.
- 21:10About what the hell is wrong with you to keep picking these
- 21:12women that don't want to fuck you because you don't deserve
- 21:14that nobody deserves that everybody deserves to have at
- 21:18least once a relationship or you could just shoot the shit about
- 21:22what you want to do in bed. That is certainly within your
- 21:26purview. You could definitely get that
- 21:28with a woman and if you think you can't therapy is always an
- 21:33option and it's always very helpful, not always very
- 21:35helpful. Not I don't like to lie, it is
- 21:38not always very helpful but it is helpful.
- 21:40If you meet the right therapist that you click with and you are
- 21:42present and motivated to do the work with said therapist.
- 21:45Okay? And now, I feel like I said the
- 21:48right thing and we can go all righty.
- 21:50Bye-bye.