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Embracing Real Health: Living in Total Wellness with Glen Alex · The FEEL Podcast: Women’s Empowerment, Emotional Wellness and Self-Leadership with Melissa Crook

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  Hello, Melissa crook here with the field podcast Welcome to
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  today's episode embracing real health living in total Wellness
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  with Glenn Alex. Our ways to engage with today's
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  episode are as follows. Be aware of saying you should do
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  something and change it to could think of things as you are
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  capable and can do them, rather than twisting reality to what
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  you quote should be doing but aren't.
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  See how this changes your motivation and perception of
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  yourself as you make this simple shift in language.
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  We hope you find this supportive and helps you think as you're
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  listening today and engaging with our episode with our
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  Franklin. Alex, thanks so much for being
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  with us. Hello, field podcast audience,
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  Glad to be with you here today. I've got a friend here with me
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  that you, if you've been following us at all, you.
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  She's been on a panel with me couple of months ago and she's
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  I've also gotten to be a guest on her podcast.
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  And now it's my turn to bring her to the field podcast.
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  And Glenn and I connected via our good friends at pod match.
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  But I'm happy to have Glenn Alex here with me today.
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  She's going to have a ton of wisdom and insight and that
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  really goes into how she describes herself.
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  She describes herself as intuitive, insightful, creative,
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  visionary, where she sees the big picture, but she also sees
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  the small parts that feed into what make that big picture,
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  which I love that delineation she made within that integrity
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  and joyful. Glenn.
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  Alex, welcome to the Field podcast.
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  Hi, Melissa. Thank you so much for this
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  opportunity. I'm really looking forward to
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  this conversation. Me too, me too.
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  And you have so much to say about these talking points and
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  you've done, you know so much about all of these things
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  already. And so and we'll talk about you
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  really do. I mean you, you've got a lot of
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  insights on that, as you know, and you and you and it comes
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  both professionally and just from life experience.
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  And so and we'll talk about at the end where people can find
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  you and follow you and they'll understand what I'm talking
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  about. Go back and check out the great
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  panel. Check out Glenn and I's
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  conversation that we had on the Glenn Alex show a few months
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  back. But but let's get started with
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  how to prioritize self-care in your life and what has your
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  journey been with like like with that.
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  I, I think how to is not as important to me because these
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  days you can Google anything how to do XYZ.
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  What I find with clients and people I know personally is they
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  know how they don't have a why. So I would recommend starting
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  with the why. Why to why take care of
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  yourself. Why be as healthy as you can.
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  Why have these wonderful people around you versus negative
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  people. It's the why, and once you
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  crystallize your why, then the how to follows and the
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  commitment to the how to. Yeah, yeah.
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  Connecting that why behind it, because the why is like, Oh
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  well, why? Well, I, I want to be the
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  healthiest version of myself. I want to have a field cup and
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  show up well for my people. That is a very terrifying way to
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  approach that. I'd love that.
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  When did you realize that's where the power was for you?
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  Oh boy, it it's it was early in my journey.
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  I would say growing up, I could see a lot of people stumbling.
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  I'm blessed to be the youngest of 10.
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  So I had a lot of yes. So I had a lot of examples.
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  And my mother came from a huge family as well.
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  We had a very full social life on the in the neighborhood.
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  So I, I learned from watching people that they knew how they
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  just didn't. And so I picked up along the way
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  that, you know, there's more to it than just knowledge is not
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  power for me. Knowledge is potential.
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  It's the application of that knowledge.
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  That's power. Yeah, yeah.
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  And and you were in because you are such an intuitive, this
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  really goes with the intuitive, insightful and visionary piece
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  in you. You knew you recognized those
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  things from an early age. Like there's some parts here
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  that are missing and getting the application done and and what is
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  it that needs to be tapped into? Because I talk a lot about on
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  here and we'll get into why and values later and embracing your
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  layers because we prioritize what we value.
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  We prioritize what we understand.
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  The why behind it becomes a value and a priority of ours
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  because we've defined that and we understand it and it's
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  connected to us and not what other people are saying we
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  should do, but to what is important and valuable to us.
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  So I'd love. That, yes, yeah.
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  Yeah, and you've learned. I mean, you have plenty of
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  people around you for them to learn from.
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  That's really, ah, I love that so much.
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  What are activities that really support you in this?
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  In my self-care. Yeah.
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  Oh I'd love my down time. I am a busy girl, and I even
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  schedule downtime just to sit and chill if I want to read or
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  if I want to write or if I just want to look out the window or
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  take a nap. That's very nurturing for me.
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  And as an introvert, I do need that to reset my batteries
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  actually. So downtime is really important
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  to me. Nourishment, food, nourishment
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  from authentic people, Just that energy and support and being
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  surrounded by that emotional comforter is is a huge part of
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  myself care. I am intolerant of Debbie
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  Downer's and negative Nancy's and because they know how to,
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  they just don't do it so. They don't make the choice
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  within it to shift absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Absolutely. And I also believe that
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  self-care not only promotes living in total health, which is
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  the balancing between the physical, mental, emotional and
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  spiritual aspects of who we are. I think self-care also
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  communicates your worth to other people.
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  Yeah. Absolutely.
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  As part of the why? What do you want to communicate
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  to other people about yourself? Yeah, and it informs them of how
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  to treat you and what you won't tolerate.
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  Absolutely, Absolutely. I love that emotional blanket
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  metaphor. I think that's really powerful.
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  That's so good. Oh, good stuff there.
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  All right. And you mentioned this already.
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  You prioritize and put in your schedule, your downtime.
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  You know that's important to you.
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  That is a healthy boundary that you have created for yourself in
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  your schedule. Talk to me about your boundaries
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  journey and learning to set aside those times for yourself
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  and in other areas of your life, how you've learned to apply
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  these things. Well, I didn't understand the
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  word boundaries. Again growing up and in our
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  social settings, I could see I was so captivated by how people
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  interacted with each other. I would just sit and watch and
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  you can see the smiles or you can see the eyebrows raised or
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  you can see the cringe. You can see the pained look on
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  someone's face. And and that communicated to me
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  that there were lines. To.
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  Cross and lines not to cross. And so as I grew and learned and
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  became more educated and trained, it, it, it, I'll come
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  back and say as the youngest of 10, I was a very quiet and, and
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  shy child. And I didn't really speak up for
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  myself growing up until something happened when I turned
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  15. I started using the word no.
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  And it was so foreign in my family.
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  My sister, my oldest sister, started calling me space baby
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  because she thought I was abducted.
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  And who are you? Get over your brain.
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  Where did you learn this from? Oh my gosh, now.
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  And so that note was specific to babysitting because as the
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  youngest of 10, there were a lot of nieces and nephews to take
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  care of. And so that's where I started my
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  own personal journey with setting boundaries.
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  And then it just evolved to the more subtle boundaries of
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  interaction of how you can talk to me, how you can touch me,
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  you're too close in my space. And so I just, it just kind of
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  gradually grew from there. Yeah, I think, and I say this
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  because I've got some in my family, but I really think that
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  people who are born with that intuition and and many times in
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  in my experience are more introverted.
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  You're almost you haven't really innate instinct of what is too
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  much for you and when to say no you more.
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  So I think myself is an extrovert.
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  It took me years to realize I'm an extrovert.
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  So I'm out with everybody all the time doing all things.
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  And I had to realize like even I need to have, I have some lines
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  in the sand and, and I'm very aware of that now, but for many
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  years. And I would tell you that the,
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  the intuitives and impacts and introverts in my life have a
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  very strong awareness because you're taking in so much.
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  You're so picking up on so many things that are going on in the
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  room and taking in other people's experiences.
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  You don't have to be the loudest voice.
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  You're taking in everything around you.
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  And I think there's so much power.
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  It's a little bit of a superpower.
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  I think that sometimes those of us that are a little more vocal
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  and just miss out on because we're always the ones doing the
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  engaging and talking and not the sitting back and taking it.
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  I think there's a lot, there's a that's a gift in a lot of ways.
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  Well, I I appreciate you saying that.
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  And that brought up memories of the times when my intuition and
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  my observations were like, OK, I don't want to go there.
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  I don't want that person around me.
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  I don't want to do that. And I was criticized for either
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  being too sensitive or too judgmental.
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  I'm like, OK, if you think that it's not safe for me to go
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  there, and if you want to, OK, it's not safe for me emotionally
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  or mentally and I'm not doing it.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's, and that's that
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  awareness of you have of yourself.
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  It's like, all right, well, that's your decision.
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  But for me, you will not deter me.
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  I'm going to, I'm going to touch that and listen to that.
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  And I think that's such a powerful thing and empowering
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  thing too for you. And I I really wish more humans
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  were connected with themselves in that way.
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  I think the world would be in a much better place if if we had
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  that healthier connection with ourselves.
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  Yeah, and I think we need to change the narrative around what
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  being sensitive means. Sensitive is a strength,
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  sensitive is sensitive is knowing and feeling and trusting
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  and listening to and. And I think that's such AI call
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  it a superpower. And so it's like, let's let's be
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  very mindful of how we communicate with those in our
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  lives about that. And just because it's and
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  getting if it feels uncomfortable for you or off
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  putting, you ask yourself why get curious about yourself about
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  that, because that's more of an issue that's going on inside of
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  you than it is with that other person and that knows what their
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  lines in the sand are. I love that and senses that and
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  trusts that so good. All right, you mentioned this
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  earlier also when it comes to self-care and it's tending to
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  all these pieces and parts of us, but taking care of our
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  emotional health, mental health, physical health, spiritual
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  health, it's all a part of this package.
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  Talk to me about your awareness and journey with that.
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  Well, as far as emotional health and Wellness, I think it's
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  crucial to understand that emotions are natural to the
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  human condition. Yeah, I have clients who condemn
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  themselves for feeling, for getting angry or sad or afraid.
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  That's natural. It's unpacking the layers of the
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  emotion that will walk you to your spot of empowerment.
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  And so I work on emotional intelligence with my clients and
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  explain to them that the emotions and the intellect are
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  partners. 1 is not more valuable than the other.
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  They must work together for us to unpack those layers and to
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  make the best choices available to us to enhance our life
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  experience. So, you know, along my journey,
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  there was a lot of anger. I was angry a lot.
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  I didn't understand how people could hurt each other.
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  I, I struggled with making sense of, of pain and suffering and,
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  and until I, you know, probably early 20s went away to, to, to
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  college. Then I started to see individual
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  choices and responsibilities or a lack of responsibilities and,
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  and how they just manage themselves when they were
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  distressed or stressed or even happy.
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  And so that just gave me more information about emotions and
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  mindset and how that that leads to choices.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Do you think that understanding
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  did that lead you down the road you chose professionally?
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  I've. Yeah, it did.
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  It did because I wanted to help other people understand
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  themselves better in that way and their internal experiences,
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  what to make of it, reflecting on it, choices, changes,
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  etcetera. So yeah, that actually did lead
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  me to where I am my, my, my line of work because I really love
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  numbers. And I, I actually first went to
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  school for accounting for business and it was too
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  isolating. And I said, no, there's more,
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  there's something else I need to do.
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  So then that led me into social work.
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  OK, OK, I love how you recognize that too.
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  It's like, OK, no, there's more here because sometimes I it's
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  real easy, especially, you know, when you're in college, you're
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  like, oh, this is it. This is a route that I could go
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  and make a good living and, and you know, all those things and
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  not get kind of drawn into that and ignore that intuition of
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  like, no, I think there's something more for me that's
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  more aligned. But I think that goes back to
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  that trusting yourself piece, that trusting that insight and
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  that intuition. I I agree with that and, and let
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  me say that I am completely blessed to have the level of
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  self-awareness I do. It's it.
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  It takes a lot of energy to stay aware and self-conscious of what
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  I'm doing, thinking, feeling and saying at any given moment.
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  Yet it is an absolute blessing for me because I I know where I
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  exist in space and I believe other humans have this ability
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  to. We just ignore it, we override
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  it, or we just assume other people know better than we do
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  for ourselves. Yeah, yeah, I think that's I,
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  I'm so glad you pointed out that feeling blessed and and grateful
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  peace. And but, you know, you made a
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  choice for that too, which I think is really powerful.
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  But you're and you're helping other people see their choice in
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  it, I think is for that. And that is so when you realize
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  you've got more within you than you previously acknowledged,
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  that's very empowering. Oh, it's.
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  So empowering, yeah. And comforting.
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  Yes, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
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  And that goes beautifully into how we support ourselves and
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  other women in living unapologetically.
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  This is a gateway to that, that ability to embrace that and see
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  that within ourselves and then help other and support other
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  people in doing that. That's the whole framework of
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  what you do. Is that have you viewed it that
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  way or is that, is that like, oh, I guess that is?
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  I don't know if I viewed it exactly that way.
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  That's a, that's a new framework for me.
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  Yeah. So thank you for that.
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  I I suppose just thinking about it now that being self aware,
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  self-conscious, taking responsibility and
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  accountability for my choices makes it easier to support other
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  women. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Well, it's because I think that you are operating, you've got
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  that foundation, so you're operating from a very confident,
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  foundational assured place. And so that allows you to, but
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  you also know it takes work and time and energy.
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  So it creates an empathy for others and their ability to do
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  that because you understand it yourself.
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  Yes, yes. And when we are empowered in
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  that way, then we don't need or even want to compare ourselves
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  to others. I I think that is a huge fault
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  line that we women in particular, engage in.
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  And oh, she's prettier, she has better hair, she has more money,
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  she's skinnier. I don't care.
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  Yes. And then and yeah, and there's
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  so much, there is so much power in that.
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  Do you think, you know, you have your show, the Glenn Alex show
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  as well. Do you think this played a role
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  in you wanting to share on a broader scope because you
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  obviously have your people that you work with one-on-one, but
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  you're also able to share this knowledge in such a more
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  expansive form on your on on your podcast.
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  So talk to me about that impact too, of being able to show up in
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  this way for so many more women. It absolutely, it absolutely led
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  to the development of the Glenn Alex Show, which I resisted for
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  like a year. I was a guest on another show
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  and that host, he hounded me for like a year.
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  You should have your own show. You should have your own show.
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  And then as I'm, you know, writing blogs and, and, and I
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  said, yeah, I, I really wish that we would teach boundaries
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  and emotional intelligence in grade school.
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  Yes. In grade school.
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  And so I'm thinking about that. I said, yeah, I I could share
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  this information with the wider, wider audience.
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  And this is a great way to do that.
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  And so, yeah, that's what led to the Glen Allen show.
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  Yeah, I love that, that I think that's such an important thing.
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  If we think if, if we could empower our kiddos in the world
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  to know how to navigate their emotions and express them in a
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  healthy way, there's so many generations of discipline and
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  punishment that really shuts down the emotional processing
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  for kids because that's just what we've seen happen.
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  So there's not the curiosity of like and sitting in the
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  discomfort of like. All right, you're throwing a fit
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  right now. What's happening here?
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  You know, you're acting out. What's happening here?
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  What let's you know, what can we do to settle and breathe?
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  You know, we're just like, go to your room or you're grounded or,
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  you know, that's going to be seen for years and it doesn't
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  open the door. I'm sorry.
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  I'm sorry. I just, I have a lot of clients
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  who were told and bought into. You shouldn't feel that way.
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  Yeah. Don't be angry.
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  Yeah. And so now they stuff their
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  emotions and they come out in these other ways, as you say,
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  acting out. Yeah, and it's so disempowering
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  when someone tells you that what you're feeling isn't if they're
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  not affirming that it's not justified, you know, it's.
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  And so then there's there can be shame that goes with that as.
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  Well. You know, I mean, there's so
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  many layers that pile on top of if we just were able to one it
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  comes it has to start with the adults in the room knowing how
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  to process and move through their own emotions so that
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  they've got the capacity and space to help these kids do it.
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  But it'd be a game changer if we could do that 1000.
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  Absolutely a game. Changer and change the change
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  for those kids moving forward into adulthood.
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  What a gift that would be. Yeah, I.
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  Totally agree. I totally agree and I think
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  other ways we can support ourselves and other women
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  unapologetically is to adopt the relationship and become your own
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  best friend. Yeah.
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  If you're having I have a client who's just.
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  She's so self loathing for any normal experience.
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  She just beats herself up and I'm like, well what would you
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  say to your best friend if she was going through the same
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  thing? Oh it'll be OK, it'll get
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  better. You can handle this.
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  I'm like, then be your own best friend.
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  Yeah. Use yourself talk to work
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  through and process through your distressing experiences, even
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  the positive experiences. Absolutely, yeah.
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  I feel a joy. Yeah, yes, yes.
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  I, I think another thing that would be really huge in
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  supporting ourselves and other women unapologetically is if we
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  do talk less and listen more, sometimes we just listen to fill
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  in our own blanks or we listen to respond.
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  We don't really hear where the person is coming from.
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  I had a client who's just all over the place.
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  She was just having just difficulty with her adult
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  children. She couldn't see her
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  grandchildren. She was having problems on the
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  job with her partner. And all I did was listen and
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  ask, you know, a poignant question here and there.
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  And it helped her to reflect and calm.
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  And so she sent me a message later and she said thank you for
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  your supportive presence. And so sometimes that's all it
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  takes is an ear and people can get to the point where they can
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  work out their own stuff. Yeah.
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  And when they can figure out going back to figuring out that
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  they have it within them. Yes, do.
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  That. Yes.
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  That's where the magic really is.
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  It is. So magical.
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  I I love that word. Yes, it is so magical.
• 25:33
  Yeah, and. They get this aha.
• 25:36
  Yeah, yeah, that aha moment so good.
• 25:38
  Well, I think another thing too, we quit apologizing for showing
• 25:42
  up and taking up in a room and and being seen, being heard,
• 25:47
  being known. That's part of that.
• 25:49
  As I I mentor and advise a group of women at at Fresno State
• 25:56
  University and one of the in the College of Business, a group of
• 25:59
  students. And one of the things I tell
• 26:01
  them I'm like, right up the gate, let's let's get rid of any
• 26:07
  habits you have about entering a room and starting a sentence
• 26:10
  with I'm sorry, but no, because you're just going to get rid of
• 26:16
  that part of the sentence and just start with professor, I
• 26:20
  have a question or going into your boss.
• 26:23
  I, I need some clarity. Not Oh, I'm sorry, but I need
• 26:26
  some clarity. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 26:28
  Take up your time. No, they're there for you to
• 26:31
  take up their time. Exactly, exactly.
• 26:36
  So I think that's such a big piece of it.
• 26:37
  And you have such a great handle on that.
• 26:39
  And I think you had a hand. It seems like you've had a
• 26:42
  handle on that for much of your life because I think when you're
• 26:45
  that self aware, you know, you don't need to apologize for
• 26:49
  that. I was unapologetic for, you
• 26:56
  know, a good part of my adulthood.
• 26:58
  And then I learned as I became more public, that to soften it.
• 27:03
  So I don't. Walk into a room and say I'm
• 27:06
  sorry, I will say excuse me or I need or may I, etcetera.
• 27:13
  So I've learned to soften it, though I'm not apologetic at all
• 27:18
  for being who I am. Yeah.
• 27:20
  Not at all. Clear and kind can go together,
• 27:24
  like unapologetic and kind can go together.
• 27:27
  I think sometimes when people hear the word unapologetic, it
• 27:30
  sounds very. Brutal.
• 27:32
  Out there and propose. Yeah.
• 27:36
  Not walking into walk through a wall and take it down.
• 27:43
  It doesn't. No.
• 27:43
  It's being comfortable and content in in your own skin.
• 27:49
  Having peace with who you are. Walking into a room confidently
• 27:53
  but kindly. You don't have to run through a
• 27:56
  door and knock everybody down but you walk and you know I love
• 28:00
  the examples you like. Excuse me.
• 28:02
  Can I have a moment of your time?
• 28:04
  Pardon me. I got a question real quick.
• 28:06
  You know those kinds of things. That's a great example.
• 28:09
  Thanks. So much for sharing that.
• 28:10
  That was really good because yeah, I think we have to like, I
• 28:13
  think sometimes the word boundaries and unapologetic feel
• 28:16
  very in your face and they don't have to be.
• 28:21
  There's a way to do this. And what I think that when you
• 28:24
  really feel empowered and, and who you are, you do understand
• 28:29
  or become to understand how to navigate that in a way that is
• 28:33
  not abrasive that it is. And I think when you're first
• 28:36
  learning how to show up that way, sometimes we err on the
• 28:40
  other side too far. Like, by golly, I'm not going to
• 28:42
  apologize for anything anymore. It's like, all right, We also
• 28:47
  need to be able to have conversations with people and,
• 28:50
  and work through conflict. And, you know, so I think that,
• 28:53
  yeah, that that way to do it in a very calming, not doesn't have
• 29:00
  to be abrasive, it doesn't have to be aggressive.
• 29:04
  You can be an assertive and kind and polite all in the same
• 29:08
  moment. Yeah.
• 29:08
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 29:10
  So good. All right, We, we touched on
• 29:12
  this already and you hit on it so well on the self-care piece,
• 29:17
  but the importance of setting and coming back to your why and
• 29:21
  your values and everything you do.
• 29:24
  Talk to me more about you have a really great understanding of
• 29:28
  that and you've and you caught on to that early.
• 29:31
  Talk to me about that journey with that and how you help other
• 29:34
  people with that as well. Well.
• 29:41
  A lot of clients who are depressed, they a common symptom
• 29:47
  is they're not motivated. They are unmotivated to even get
• 29:51
  up and shower or go to work that day or eat the right foods for
• 29:57
  them. And the assumption is that
• 30:02
  motivation means I have to have energy and excitement to do this
• 30:06
  task every time. Oh yeah.
• 30:09
  No, no. Motivation is the result you
• 30:13
  seek. So if I want to keep food on my
• 30:19
  table and a roof over my head, then I have to wake up and go to
• 30:22
  work. I really don't want to.
• 30:25
  I like to sleep in and yeah, I go play tennis all day.
• 30:31
  That's what I want to do though, in order to have that security
• 30:36
  in my lifestyle. Yeah, I am required to get up
• 30:40
  even on the days where I don't feel like it.
• 30:43
  So motivation is the result. It's not the energy and
• 30:45
  excitement to do that particular task.
• 30:48
  The motivation is how this task will lead me there.
• 30:51
  And so that's what I I also work with clients on that and that's
• 30:57
  how I keep myself on task. Yeah, I'd love that.
• 31:01
  That's great. I'd love the way you shifted
• 31:04
  that of like, no, I there, I don't know anybody.
• 31:08
  Well, there's a few people, there's a few morning people out
• 31:10
  there, but there's a lot of people that don't want to get up
• 31:14
  at 5:00 or 5:30 in the morning, you know, to get.
• 31:18
  But they also understand that in order to meet this expectation
• 31:22
  they have for their life or this value that they have or they're
• 31:26
  why behind wanting to travel or those things that nourish them
• 31:31
  playing tennis, you know, having, you know, going, being
• 31:34
  able to have time or a membership or a place where you
• 31:37
  can go do that. They've got, you know, and they
• 31:39
  understand. OK, I've I've identified my why
• 31:43
  for this. I've identified the values of
• 31:45
  things that I cherish around it. So in order to access those,
• 31:49
  this piece here is necessary. Even on the day where I don't
• 31:54
  want to do it. Doesn't mean I don't love doing
• 31:56
  it. I just.
• 31:57
  But maybe I don't want to get up at 5:30.
• 31:59
  But I know if I don't, it sets her trajectory for the rest of
• 32:03
  my day. That's going to throw everything
• 32:05
  off. Yes, and even those tasks that
• 32:08
  are mundane and boring. Yeah, they.
• 32:11
  Are required to your goal to get you what you desire?
• 32:16
  I mean, I have AI. It's getting better now though.
• 32:19
  I've had a lot of GI issues and I've had a a strict diet for
• 32:24
  years and I would have to be very careful about what I ate
• 32:32
  and ask when I ate out what's exactly in it.
• 32:35
  I take forever in the grocery stores 'cause I read every label
• 32:38
  is if it's a new product for me. And so to be motivated to do
• 32:43
  those things that are time consuming and uninteresting,
• 32:49
  yeah, I, I, I'm motivated by, I don't want to suffer physically
• 32:55
  by just buying what's easiest and what's most convenient.
• 32:59
  Right. So taking those steps to read
• 33:02
  the labels and ask questions enables me to, you know,
• 33:06
  minimize my GI distress. So I'm motivated by the result
• 33:11
  of not suffering because the suffering.
• 33:13
  Is awful, yes, absolutely miserable.
• 33:16
  You value your health and how you want to feel.
• 33:20
  I love that shift of the result piece.
• 33:23
  That's a really great way to look at that.
• 33:24
  Thank you so much for that. That's really good.
• 33:26
  All right, living out of your own expectations versus others,
• 33:31
  I want to go back to an example you gave earlier.
• 33:34
  You talked about at 15 where you started saying no, there was an
• 33:37
  expectation by the older siblings.
• 33:40
  She's old enough now to babysit the kids.
• 33:42
  Of course she'll do it. And you're like, no, no, no, no,
• 33:47
  no here I am not openly open season on my calendar all the
• 33:52
  time. I have an expectation of
• 33:54
  experiences I want to have in my life that exists outside of
• 33:59
  babysitting y'all's children. So I think that's a great
• 34:05
  example of you communicated early on an expectation and a
• 34:09
  boundary and those things, you know, really our values are why,
• 34:13
  our expectations, our boundaries are self-care.
• 34:15
  They're all intertwined and they all inform each other.
• 34:19
  You talked about, you know already how the you know the why
• 34:22
  and the self-care. We're connected and they're all
• 34:23
  intertwined. Talk to me about other areas in
• 34:27
  your life where this has really been important for you and also
• 34:33
  how you help other people with this.
• 34:35
  Because there's so many people that need help, that go to
• 34:39
  therapy, that need that support. So many times are living out of
• 34:44
  everyone else's expectations but their own.
• 34:48
  And they don't even realize it. They don't even, they haven't
• 34:51
  even stopped to consider you're on this path.
• 34:56
  Is this a path you chose? Is this the path someone else
• 34:59
  expected of you to? Are you people pleasing?
• 35:02
  I mean, there's so many things that go into it.
• 35:05
  Yes, yes, there. There are so many pieces.
• 35:08
  Let me start by saying beware of should.
• 35:15
  Should statements are a cognitive distortion, an
• 35:20
  absolute twist of reality? Should statements.
• 35:24
  I consider them the internalized expectations and standards of
• 35:30
  other people. And the problem with that is
• 35:34
  their standards and expectations may not align with who you are
• 35:39
  as an individual, your goals, your desires, your talents, your
• 35:44
  innate gifts and talents. And so if there is that
• 35:47
  misalignment and you shoot yourself to death, you will
• 35:51
  likely experience a lot of anxiety and depression, maybe
• 35:55
  some addictive behaviors, maybe some self harm.
• 35:59
  So beware of should. And the reframe I work with
• 36:04
  clients on is when you catch yourself should in on yourself,
• 36:10
  replace the word should with could.
• 36:15
  I, I should go to school? I could go to school. 1 is this
• 36:21
  and 1 is this. And with with should statements
• 36:25
  there, there are no choices. Either this way or something's
• 36:30
  wrong with you. Yeah.
• 36:33
  Could is, oh, look at all these different options and
• 36:36
  possibilities. That's the empowering part.
• 36:39
  So that's how I work with clients on that.
• 36:42
  For myself, it was being willing to weather the storms of
• 36:48
  criticisms for not being who I was told to be, for not being
• 36:53
  the way you should be. Why are you so you just you OK?
• 36:59
  I'm sorry you like it. I'm doing it.
• 37:02
  And I'm going to continue to be this way because this is who I'm
• 37:06
  comfortable with when I'm alone. Yeah.
• 37:09
  When I look in the mirror, that's more important to me than
• 37:13
  what you think. And so it's, it's, it's adopting
• 37:16
  that posture and of understanding and again,
• 37:20
  self-awareness. And it will take some time and
• 37:23
  some reflection to do this. And it's it's about
• 37:27
  understanding what enhances your life, what moves you closer to
• 37:31
  those goals and desires and the expression of your gifts and
• 37:35
  talents. And should statements don't do
• 37:38
  that? Yeah.
• 37:39
  They don't do that. They don't.
• 37:41
  I love how you just shipped a couple of letters in a word and
• 37:46
  it comes it goes from being you feel stuck and imprisoned by to
• 37:51
  a world of choices and that slight shift.
• 37:54
  What does that does? And also the acknowledgement of
• 38:00
  so many times when people talk to me about, you know, this
• 38:05
  framework that I use, walking through these questions with
• 38:08
  people individually. And if they are, they, they want
• 38:11
  that magic elixir. And it's like, I'm going to sell
• 38:15
  you right up front. This is not the magic elixir.
• 38:19
  You're going to have to be an, a very committed participant in
• 38:26
  this. It's going to require you to
• 38:29
  embrace some discomfort that might you might receive from
• 38:33
  people as you start making shifts that are healthy for you
• 38:38
  because they're not used to you showing up in that way.
• 38:42
  A&B, excuse me, it may not serve them anymore and and it may not
• 38:48
  meet them where they're used to you needing them.
• 38:52
  So for yourself and for your, you know, making a commitment to
• 38:56
  yourself upfront, you're no longer going to abandon
• 38:59
  yourself, but it's not going to come with this like I'm going to
• 39:02
  do this and everything's going to be better because it's no,
• 39:06
  that's just, that's not if someone's telling you that
• 39:09
  they're lying to you, I'm just, you know, because how life
• 39:13
  works, you have to be an accountable participant.
• 39:17
  But little shifts like changing shoulds to coulds is a door wide
• 39:24
  open door that you can walk through and and have a
• 39:28
  completely different perspective on your situation.
• 39:32
  Absolutely, absolutely. And they experience the
• 39:38
  difference immediately sometimes.
• 39:42
  Yeah, 'cause it's like that light bulb moment, like you
• 39:44
  said, like a light goes on it. Oh, I never thought about it
• 39:48
  that way. I didn't realize that was
• 39:50
  available to me. No one's ever framed it.
• 39:52
  And I think especially when you grow up in situations where
• 39:55
  that's not modeled to you, not everybody has the, we're all
• 40:01
  wired differently and not all of us are able to pick up on the
• 40:04
  fact that that is not serving them.
• 40:08
  And I, you know, and instead it's like, well, that's the way
• 40:11
  they did it. So I guess that's the way.
• 40:12
  Well, I'll do it. And not stopping to consider.
• 40:17
  Habit. Is that healthy?
• 40:19
  Do they look content? Do they seem happy or do they,
• 40:22
  you know, those kinds of things? So the question is to yourself,
• 40:25
  why you? Because I remember what used to
• 40:27
  drive me crazy as a little kid is when you get answers from
• 40:31
  your parents because I said so, OK, And I caught myself early on
• 40:38
  in parenthood doing that to my own kids.
• 40:40
  I'm like, oh, yeah, no, I don't want to do that.
• 40:42
  I don't want to be that, you know, instead of like the
• 40:45
  consideration of, you know, impact and, and all those
• 40:49
  things. So yeah, I love, I love the,
• 40:52
  the, the should to could. And I love that.
• 40:55
  Just that reality of being willing to embrace the
• 40:57
  discomfort, but knowing the honoring yourself at the end,
• 41:02
  it's, it's worth it and you are worth it.
• 41:05
  You know I. Think that's and I I can't
• 41:07
  imagine struggling with who I am on a daily basis.
• 41:13
  I just the wanting having this internal experience and it it
• 41:19
  not aligning with what I present as I I just that struggle to me.
• 41:26
  I, I just, I said no, I don't want to do that.
• 41:29
  Yeah. So yeah, I'd rather you be upset
• 41:31
  with me than me be upset with. Myself absolutely and feel that
• 41:35
  exactly because yeah, absolutely and I think that's I think
• 41:38
  that's so much of why you and I do what we do in the it's like
• 41:41
  OK ladies, this doesn't have to be this way people we don't have
• 41:45
  we have it doesn't have you don't have to exist this way.
• 41:48
  There's I let let listen to us. We promise there's even exists
• 41:55
  and honor yourself, yeah. Absolutely.
• 41:58
  So good, all right, accepting the layered aspects of
• 42:01
  ourselves, you know, and you mentioned layers earlier, you
• 42:05
  know, accepting all those pieces and parts of who we are in.
• 42:10
  This is an area that I struggled with early on.
• 42:13
  I really had to move from a place of judgment to curiosity
• 42:16
  about my layers, especially in those seasons of life that I'm
• 42:19
  like stayed in that relationship way too long, you know, or you
• 42:25
  know, whatever the case may be. So talk to me about your layers
• 42:29
  journey. Oh, I'm pretty deep A.
• 42:38
  Lot of layers there a. Lot of layers there.
• 42:43
  I I I'll share this story. Growing up in when I was trying
• 42:48
  to sort out pain and suffering and how humans can be so mean to
• 42:52
  each other, I was anti competition.
• 42:57
  I don't understand competition. I don't care who is better and
• 43:00
  what what. And then I started playing
• 43:02
  tennis and I realized that I am a very competitive person with
• 43:09
  my best. Yeah, I'm going to, you know,
• 43:14
  pick up the the weaknesses and the strengths of the opponent,
• 43:18
  though. If I have this level of skill,
• 43:21
  then that's my competition. Yeah.
• 43:25
  And so the results are the results.
• 43:27
  And so it it was a real surprise to me how competitive I was.
• 43:31
  Yeah. And why I resisted that for so
• 43:35
  long. Yeah.
• 43:38
  So that was a huge insight into one layer of me.
• 43:45
  Another layer is I recognize as loving, as kind, as authentic I
• 43:53
  am, I can be very angry. And when I get to that level of
• 43:59
  anger with someone, then as I calm, then I detach from that
• 44:06
  person. So a lot of relationships.
• 44:08
  And if I reach that level of anger, that's another layer that
• 44:12
  I, I, I'm not comfortable with it though.
• 44:15
  Once I'm there, I go with it and then this is the result.
• 44:19
  I don't want to go there again, so I detach from that situation,
• 44:23
  from that person emotionally and mentally.
• 44:26
  So those are interesting layers. I'm like, Oh my gosh, okay.
• 44:33
  Well, I think you've really spoken to the nuance that exists
• 44:37
  within us of how we can have these.
• 44:39
  Like, I'm an intuitive, I pick up the emotions in the room.
• 44:44
  I see what's happening. I don't under because I see this
• 44:47
  and feel so much. I don't understand why people
• 44:50
  hurt each other. But at the same time, when I'm
• 44:52
  on the tennis court, I want to win, you know?
• 44:57
  So how do I hold all of that? And I think it's just knowing
• 45:00
  how to channel it, how to hold it, understanding the spaces and
• 45:04
  places where it's effective and healthy and where it transfers
• 45:08
  over into not being healthy. You know, that understanding of
• 45:12
  like we hear so many narratives as women about anger and so, so
• 45:17
  many of us have stuffed anger for years and not allowed
• 45:20
  ourselves to feel it, process it, move through it, notice how
• 45:25
  other express it, notice how other people impact us, paying
• 45:30
  attention to our nervous system when we're in certain people's
• 45:34
  presence and situations. And and so learning how to feel
• 45:39
  that, move through it, express it, and also recognize when
• 45:42
  there's a scenario or situation or location or person that
• 45:46
  continually brings that up in US and be mindful of like, that's
• 45:50
  not a space that's healthy for me to continually put myself in.
• 45:55
  I need to be mindful and aware of that.
• 45:58
  That's not, you know, anger. Small anger was a clue and let
• 46:02
  me know. Yes.
• 46:06
  That that was an area that I need to be mindful of, you know,
• 46:10
  so I think you're refraining that Who is clues.
• 46:14
  Yes, and you're exactly right. The context does matter.
• 46:19
  Yeah. I also like how you you became
• 46:21
  curious about yourself because it's important for us to know
• 46:25
  what we like, what we dislike, what our triggers are, what our
• 46:28
  joys are, what our frustrations are, what our locus of control
• 46:33
  is. So it it it is important to be
• 46:37
  curious about who you are so you can learn this about yourself
• 46:40
  and make make the best choices available to you.
• 46:44
  Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely. So good.
• 46:46
  So good. All right, in summary, in living
• 46:49
  out feel, finding empowerment, embracing layers which you you
• 46:53
  really know how to do, you have you have learned this, you
• 46:58
  really embody this and how you show up in the world.
• 47:01
  Talk to me about how this has affected your relation.
• 47:04
  You're affected. Let me see if I can spit that
• 47:07
  out. Your relationship with your
• 47:09
  relationship with yourself, as well as your relationship with
• 47:14
  other people. Again, my relationship with
• 47:19
  myself is is is crucial. I am the only person I spend
• 47:24
  24/7 with, yeah, as is every other human being.
• 47:27
  And I insist on liking the person I spend the most time
• 47:31
  with. So it's.
• 47:33
  Very important, we have to estimate the thousand of that.
• 47:37
  Yes, yes. And I crack myself up sometimes.
• 47:41
  It would you know, I could be humorous alone and I I insist on
• 47:47
  having a healthy relationship with myself and the healthier I
• 47:51
  am within me, then I can bring my best to others.
• 47:57
  Yeah. Who are open to it?
• 48:00
  Those people who provide that warm comforter, emotional
• 48:06
  comforter for me, I can be available to them, I can help
• 48:11
  them, I can just listen. I can receive from them with
• 48:16
  appreciation. So connecting with myself in
• 48:21
  that way only creates better relationships with other people.
• 48:27
  Yeah, Anything I want to add to it, it takes the pressure off of
• 48:31
  relationships being something they were never intended to be.
• 48:35
  Relationships were never intended to be the thing that
• 48:39
  makes us happy. Now we can experience joy and
• 48:43
  contentment and happiness within that, but that comes from us
• 48:48
  knowing ourselves while valuing us, loving us, having that
• 48:52
  relationship with ourselves. So we don't need that
• 48:55
  relationship's a choice. We don't need that relationship.
• 48:59
  Well, we need we need community as humans.
• 49:02
  So that's a little bit of a different scientific story, but
• 49:05
  within this context, we with that relationship is a choice
• 49:10
  that we surround ourselves with that and it doesn't put pressure
• 49:13
  on it to be something it was never intended to be.
• 49:17
  Well, and and and it's not that relationship is my only way of
• 49:24
  being a healthy human being. No, that relationship I can
• 49:30
  learn from as I can learn from a different relationship.
• 49:34
  My life does not depend on that relationship.
• 49:37
  Yeah, Yeah, it is. We do need relationship,
• 49:41
  absolutely. Yes, that's a great way of
• 49:43
  putting that. That's a great way of putting
• 49:45
  that. Thank you so much for that.
• 49:46
  That was really good. All right.
• 49:48
  And we're down to the rapid fire.
• 49:51
  Name 5 activities that nourish you.
• 49:56
  Writing. I love to write.
• 49:59
  I'm much more expressive on paper than I am verbally.
• 50:02
  I love to laugh. As I said, I crack myself up
• 50:06
  sometimes. I find humor and joy in some of
• 50:09
  the smallest things in life, just looking out the window or
• 50:13
  movie or in conversation. I love tennis and working out.
• 50:19
  I'll do a variety of cardio type and weight activities.
• 50:24
  Tennis is the second love of my life.
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  My husband is the first love of my life.
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  Meditation. I meditate every morning and I
• 50:34
  clocked I think I'm up to 760 consecutive days.
• 50:41
  Oh wow. In the meditation app, I do it
• 50:43
  before I get out of bed every morning.
• 50:46
  Yeah, and. #5 I don't have a number 5, I have like 5 more
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  after. That that's somebody who has a
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  lot of joy and experiences that nourish them.
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  Yes, I I have a variety that I can tap into at different times
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  and for different reasons. Cooking.
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  I love to cook. I'm, I'm not a gourmet cook by
• 51:14
  any means. Sure.
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  Just the process of it is an expression of love for me.
• 51:20
  And so I love cooking. OK, oh so good.
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  All right, 5 words on how you want to feel in the next 6
• 51:27
  months. Lighter.
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  I want to feel more buoyant in my body, in my spirit and
• 51:41
  socially. The world is heavy for me right
• 51:45
  now. It's it's, it's a little scary,
• 51:49
  a lot of scary. And there's I feel a huge weight
• 51:54
  and so I want to feel lighter in the next 6 months.
• 51:58
  Yeah, I think that's something a lot of people can connect with
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  right now. Yeah, unfortunately.
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  Yeah, yeah. But if we had to speak it and
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  say it and so that we can, you know, be truthful with ourselves
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  about it and do those things we need to do.
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  I I found that after the first three months of this year, I was
• 52:19
  just in this hyper vigilant state that I could not the
• 52:22
  normal things I was doing for myself was not moving right out
• 52:26
  of it. And so I'm like, I'm going to
• 52:28
  need more of something right now.
• 52:30
  And I figured out it was more presence and joy and moments
• 52:36
  with family and loved ones and spaces that I left.
• 52:40
  So my husband and I took a couple weekends.
• 52:42
  We went over to the coast and did a whale watching tour with
• 52:45
  my sister-in-law and her wife. We went down next weekend and
• 52:50
  and visited my brother-in-law and spent some time with he and
• 52:53
  his family. We're going to the mountains
• 52:55
  next weekend because that really that being that close to nature
• 52:59
  and having that experience together.
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  And so I think that's important. And I was like, OK, those are
• 53:05
  the things I need in addition to these practices.
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  So I think you hit on something so important and I want you to
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  get to your other 4 words. But I, I wanted to see that
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  because I think that's a place a lot of us are living right now
• 53:18
  and really paying attention to that and asking yourself, what
• 53:23
  are some additional ways I can support myself in this way?
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  Well, and, and I'm, I'm glad you, you shared that because you
• 53:36
  just expressed another layer of yourself and that's focusing on
• 53:41
  what you have personal control over.
• 53:44
  Yeah. And one of the things that gets
• 53:47
  us so out of sorts socially is that we complain about what's
• 53:54
  wrong and wait for them to fix it.
• 53:56
  When you have these individually, we make these
• 54:00
  choices every day on how we use our energy and our personal
• 54:05
  resources. And that does contribute to the
• 54:09
  collective. Now, is it going to be an in a
• 54:12
  healthy way or an unhealthy way that's to be seen?
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  So what you did was you boiled it down like, Oh my God, and
• 54:19
  then boiled it down to what nourished you.
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  I love that. Yeah, yeah.
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  I love that. Thank you.
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  It's it's, and it took a few months, like it wasn't like
• 54:30
  immediate, like I really had to sit and get curious and keep,
• 54:35
  man, I tried this not working, tried this not working, you
• 54:38
  know, not, not moving the needle here.
• 54:41
  And I was finally able to like, it just took some time and, and
• 54:46
  my husband and I both that first weekend where we tapped into it.
• 54:49
  We're like, we need more of this.
• 54:51
  This, this is the elixir that's going to support us and this is
• 54:56
  something that we can control that in a in a world that feels
• 55:01
  like very out of control in so many.
• 55:04
  Ways, yes. Yeah, all right.
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  Four other words. I I want to feel a deeper
• 55:17
  alignment with my body, mind and my spirit.
• 55:24
  I think there is another part of me that needs to be brought into
• 55:33
  my existence. And so I want to deepen that and
• 55:38
  and just experience that part of me that is more connected to the
• 55:46
  source. That's really good.
• 55:52
  I definitely want to feel more safety.
• 55:58
  Yeah. I'm very comfortable with who I
• 56:01
  am. Yeah.
• 56:03
  Others are not. There's just no way to dance
• 56:06
  around it. There's no way to dance around
• 56:09
  that. So I just, I, I would love to
• 56:11
  have the experience of being completely free me in any
• 56:18
  context at any time. Yeah, in any space.
• 56:23
  Any space? Yes.
• 56:25
  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I, I, I want to feel more
• 56:32
  nourished. I want every cell, every fiber,
• 56:41
  every organ, every hair just to thrive and just have that
• 56:52
  nourishment of being. Not so much.
• 56:56
  Full. Satiated.
• 57:00
  Satisfied. Yeah, that's a good word.
• 57:05
  I mean, it's a great, like, that's a really great metaphor
• 57:07
  for that. Not even metaphor, but I don't
• 57:09
  know. But yeah, that's a great way to
• 57:11
  describe that. I love that.
• 57:13
  Oh my gosh, Glenn, so good. I don't know, I lost track of
• 57:18
  how many words were on it. More sorry.
• 57:26
  I actually would love to experience more appreciation
• 57:29
  while you and I, we don't really do what we do for accolades.
• 57:33
  Yeah. It would be nice if it were more
• 57:37
  welcomed. Yeah.
• 57:40
  Because it there's not a lot of bling to it, there's not a lot
• 57:44
  of glitz and glamour or riches. Yet I would love a deeper level
• 57:49
  of appreciation for what we bring to humanity.
• 57:54
  Yeah. And people to actually use it,
• 57:57
  utilize it. Yeah, I think that you hit on
• 58:01
  the utilization piece like it's, it's hard when you know you have
• 58:09
  shared something that if people are willing to take hold of it
• 58:14
  can help them and they won't do it and they won't do it.
• 58:20
  And you have to release the fact that you're not responsible for
• 58:25
  what they choose to do. All you can do is share that.
• 58:30
  And but that can be so frustrating.
• 58:33
  It can be, so it can. Be frustrating, especially when
• 58:35
  they come back with the same complaint.
• 58:37
  Yeah. And, and the same story.
• 58:42
  Yeah, let's rewrite the story. Let's take different actions.
• 58:47
  So yeah, you, you hit it on the head.
• 58:49
  We we can't. That's a bad, that's a mental
• 58:52
  boundary and emotional boundary that we can't be attached to the
• 58:55
  outcome of. Sharing.
• 58:57
  What we know and our experiences.
• 59:00
  Yet it it it I hope that people will use it.
• 59:10
  Yeah. To live better in their lives.
• 59:14
  Yeah, just be the healthiest version of yourself that's
• 59:16
  possible, you know? Yeah, I think that could that
• 59:21
  people would be willing to do that.
• 59:22
  We could see a big shift in the world.
• 59:24
  I mean, that alone, if we weren't operating from this,
• 59:28
  these traumatic, unprocessed places that are so deeply rooted
• 59:33
  in so many systems and cultures and narratives.
• 59:37
  And that's a whole other thing. But yeah, but it does.
• 59:40
  And not to simplify it, but it really does come down to each
• 59:43
  one of us being willing to go on the journey and make the choices
• 59:47
  that are healthiest for us. And that, fortunately, is harder
• 59:53
  than it sounds for so many people.
• 59:56
  But it doesn't have to be. And I think that's where it's
• 59:59
  like, we've done it. It's OK with you.
• 1:00:02
  I promise. I promise.
• 1:00:03
  It's perfect. It is so doable.
• 1:00:07
  So doable. Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Oh, gosh. So good.
• 1:00:10
  Oh, Glenn. So good.
• 1:00:11
  So good. We could talk forever.
• 1:00:13
  So many good. Nuggets today, so much good
• 1:00:17
  wisdom and insight from you. Talk to people about where they
• 1:00:21
  can follow you, find you, learn from you, all of that.
• 1:00:25
  This will also be on our resources page.
• 1:00:27
  Go to embrace.com. That will all be listed there,
• 1:00:31
  but I want to give you an opportunity to share right now
• 1:00:33
  as well. OK, I appreciate that.
• 1:00:36
  You can visit my website glenn@glennalex.com and on there
• 1:00:42
  I have information about my work and I do offer health and
• 1:00:47
  Wellness products, my book Living in total Health, some
• 1:00:52
  other products that I developed to help, you know, you build
• 1:00:55
  your emotional and mental toolbox so you are more equipped
• 1:00:59
  to successfully navigate through life's challenges.
• 1:01:02
  And I am on Facebook. My page is living in total
• 1:01:08
  health. I also have a page Glenn, Alex.
• 1:01:10
  I'm on Instagram Glenn under score Alex and LinkedIn Glenn.
• 1:01:15
  Alex All the places in spaces, all the.
• 1:01:19
  Places that is enough to keep up with.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Oh, such a good conversation
• 1:01:25
  today. Again, Glenn obviously here on
• 1:01:28
  the podcast, check out the panel show she did with me a couple
• 1:01:32
  months ago on our YouTube channel.
• 1:01:34
  Check out all the resources she has follow so much wisdom, so
• 1:01:38
  much insight, so much care for us living our healthiest, most
• 1:01:43
  authentic lives. So you know, I, I'm going to go
• 1:01:46
  back to something that Glenn pointed out earlier.
• 1:01:50
  If you're having a hard time executing those things that you
• 1:01:53
  know, nourish of you get to the why, why this is important.
• 1:01:58
  Why you should be doing this and make sure that Y is coming from
• 1:02:04
  within you and really define that for yourself.
• 1:02:07
  That's your challenge for the weak.
• 1:02:09
  You're valuable. You are worth it.
• 1:02:11
  You deserve to be seen, known and heard and to be the
• 1:02:14
  healthiest version of you. And we're both of us are very
• 1:02:18
  passionate about you knowing that and have resources for you
• 1:02:21
  here and we hope you'll partake in those.
• 1:02:23
  Glenn, thank you so much. What are you?
• 1:02:26
  So welcome. Oh, so many gems this week.
• 1:02:29
  I appreciate you so much, listeners.
• 1:02:31
  We appreciate you too. You take a look at these
• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:39
  yourself. Ask yourself why you're doing
• 1:02:42
  this. Get to that.
• 1:02:44
  You know the what you want out of it and not the angst in the
• 1:02:48
  front of it. I, I don't want to take out the
• 1:02:50
  garbage. If I don't take out the garbage,
• 1:02:52
  it's going to pile up and be really stinky.
• 1:02:55
  Start there. Start there.
• 1:02:57
  That's been a metaphor for a lot of things, all right.
• 1:03:02
  That's awesome. Thank you so much, Melissa.
• 1:03:06
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:15
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