Latest / The Retention Marketing Podcast with Fexingo: Email, SMS, and Loyalty for Repeat Customers / The Hidden Cost of Discounting Your Brand Loyalty
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- Lucas: There is a specific kind of panic that sets in when your monthly recurring revenue dips, and for a lot of modern retailers, the reflexive answer is to turn up the discount dial. We see it everywhere: flash sales, twenty percent off everything, extra ten percent at checkout if you buy now. It feels like a lifeline, but I want to talk about how these promotions are actually training your customers to wait for a deal rather than buying because they love your product. Luna: Right, and the scary part is that once you teach them that pattern, reversing it feels impossible because their expectation has shifted. You aren't just losing margin on that sale; you are permanently lowering the perceived value of your entire catalog. Lucas: Exactly. Let's look at a concrete example. Consider a mid-sized apparel brand that recently ran a six-month experiment where they cut all promotional activity by half. They didn't just remove the banners; they stopped sending those high-frequency discount emails entirely. The initial reaction from their head of growth was panic, thinking their retention rate would collapse overnight. Luna: Did it? Or did the data show something different once the dust settled? Lucas: It showed a counter-intuitive result. While their first-time purchase conversion dropped slightly in month one, their repeat purchase rate among existing customers actually increased by eight percent over the next quarter. Why? Because the customers who stayed weren't there for the discount anymore. They were there for the brand. The noise of constant coupons had been drowning out the actual value proposition. Luna: That makes sense. If you only buy something because it's cheap, you leave as soon as someone else is cheaper. But if you buy it because it fits your life, you stick around regardless of the price tag. Lucas: Precisely. This is what economists call the erosion of price elasticity. When you discount heavily, you make demand highly elastic, meaning a small change in price causes a massive change in buying behavior. But when you build brand equity through consistent quality and communication, demand becomes inelastic. Customers become less sensitive to price changes because the emotional connection outweighs the marginal savings. Luna: So the goal isn't to never discount again, but to stop using discounting as your primary retention tool. How do you structure that shift without alienating the bargain hunters? Lucas: You segment aggressively. Most brands treat all their email lists the same, blasting a generic code to everyone. That is a mistake. In this case study, the apparel brand identified their top twenty percent of customers based on lifetime value and removed them from all promotional flows entirely. They gave these VIPs early access to new collections and exclusive content instead. Luna: That is a brilliant move because it makes the best customers feel special rather than devalued. It signals that their loyalty earns them status, not just a lower price. Lucas: Yes, and for the rest of the list—the price-sensitive segment—they kept some targeted offers, but they made them much more restrictive. Instead of twenty percent off everything, it might be free shipping on orders over fifty dollars, or a gift with purchase. These tactics protect the margin while still providing an incentive to buy. Luna: Free shipping is a classic for a reason. It feels like value to the consumer but doesn't directly attack the product's listed price point. It preserves the anchor price. Lucas: Spot on. And here is the operational detail that matters: they changed the frequency. Instead of emailing three times a week with deals, they went to two times a week focused on education and inspiration. One email was about how to style the items, the other was a newsletter about the materials or the design process. They replaced the transactional message with relational messaging. Luna: I think a lot of marketers confuse activity with progress. Sending more emails feels like work, but if every email is a hard sell, you are just burning goodwill. Shifting to education builds trust over time. Lucas: Trust is the currency here. Let's talk about the financial impact. For that brand, the average order value increased by twelve percent after the switch. Even though they were selling fewer units at full price, the higher margin per unit compensated for the volume dip. Their net profit actually grew by five percent year-over-year. Luna: That is the key insight for any CFO listening. Revenue vanity metrics can mask profitability leaks. You can have high sales volume and terrible profits if your cost of acquisition via discounts is too high. Lucas: Correct. And there is another hidden cost: inventory distortion. When you run deep discounts, you often clear out old stock, which is good, but you also create a dependency on having enough old stock to discount. If your supply chain is optimized for fresh, high-quality goods, constantly needing to discount old inventory can disrupt your production planning and force you to overproduce to ensure there is always something to mark down. Luna: That is a subtle operational drag. You start designing products with the end of life discount in mind rather than designing for maximum appeal. It changes the creative brief entirely. Lucas: It does. So, how do we advise our listeners to test this? You don't just flip a switch and hope for the best. The safest way to approach this is a controlled A/B test on a single cohort. Pick a group of ten thousand customers who have purchased in the last ninety days. Luna: And keep one group on the current discount model while you introduce the new value-based messaging to the other group. Then measure retention, not just immediate sales. Lucas: Exactly. Measure repeat purchase rate, customer lifetime value, and refund rates over a sixty-day window. You will likely find that the group receiving non-discount communications has a lower refund rate because they bought for the right reasons, not just because it was a steal. Luna: Lower refund rates are huge for logistics costs. If people aren't impulse-buying cheap items they don't really need, they aren't returning them either. It saves money on both ends of the transaction. Lucas: It does. Now, I know some of you are thinking, what about seasonal peaks? Black Friday, back to school? Those require volume. Can we really avoid discounts during the biggest shopping events? Luna: Seasonal peaks are different. Those are planned moments of high intent. The problem is the constant drip-feed of discounts during the quiet months that train people to wait for those peaks. You can still participate in Black Friday, but you shouldn't let it define your relationship with the customer for the other eleven months. Lucas: Agreed. The danger is when the peak becomes the baseline. If your customer expects a twenty percent discount every Tuesday, then Black Friday looks like a bad deal to them. You lose your ability to capture that high-volume moment effectively because the anchor price has been dragged down so far. Luna: That is the trap. You dig yourself into a hole of expectations that is very hard to climb out of. Restoring price integrity requires patience and consistency. Lucas: It does. And it requires communicating the change clearly. When you remove a discount, you must explain why. Is it because you are investing in better materials? Is it because you are supporting fair labor practices? Give the customer a reason to pay full price beyond just habit. Luna: Storytelling is the antidote to price sensitivity. If the story is compelling, the price becomes secondary. If the story is weak, the price becomes the only thing left. Lucas: Well said. Before we wrap up, I want to mention something real. A handful of listeners chip in monthly through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's literally what funds making this many of these shows possible. No ads, just direct support from people who value this kind of deep dive. Luna: Yeah, it keeps the lights on and lets us take the time to research cases like this one properly. If you enjoy the breakdown, consider joining that community. Lucas: Thanks for that. Back to the topic. The final piece of this puzzle is measuring success differently. Stop looking at short-term conversion rates as the north star metric for retention campaigns. Start tracking the percentage of customers who purchase at full price within their first six months. Luna: That is a much healthier metric. It tells you if you are building a sustainable business or just subsidizing customer acquisition with margin-killing discounts. Lucas: Exactly. If that number goes up, you are winning. If it goes down, you are losing ground, even if your total revenue looks pretty. It is a subtle but critical distinction for any founder trying to build a durable brand. Luna: Durable brands are built on trust, not transactions. Once you internalize that, the marketing decisions become much clearer. Lucas: They do. So, as you look at your next campaign calendar, ask yourself: am I asking for a purchase, or am I earning a relationship? The answer to that question will determine your profitability for years to come. Luna: A powerful question to sit with before hitting send on that next blast. Thanks for walking us through the mechanics of price integrity today. Lucas: My pleasure. Next week, we will look at how subscription boxes are using unboxing experiences to reduce churn, so stay tuned.