Latest / Anele and the Club on 947 / If your partner’s phone had absolutely no WhatsApp history, would you see it as a red flag or am I reaching?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
- 0:03Speaker 1: Anele and the club. On 947.
- 0:06Speaker 3: There is nothing, and I mean nothing, dodgier than this. Absolutely.
- 0:12Speaker 3: In fact, soon, hey, soon into the future, I see
- 0:15Speaker 3: a commission around people who have disappearing messages on WhatsApp.
- 0:21Speaker 1: What is that? Why do you do that? Why are
- 0:24Speaker 1: you guys doing that? Isn't it storage issues? No, it
- 0:28Speaker 1: is not.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Phones come with 32 gigabytes. I'm sure you can give
- 0:32Speaker 3: 500 MPs. I don't know what that stands for. You
- 0:35Speaker 3: can give 500 MPs for your messages. Honestly, why do
- 0:38Speaker 3: people have disappearing messages?
- 0:41Speaker 4: It is a storage thing and I can understand it
- 0:43Speaker 4: and it's their choice. That's fine, whatever. But I don't
- 0:45Speaker 4: understand when people have run a business on WhatsApp and
- 0:48Speaker 4: they have disappearing messages because you're literally going back in
- 0:51Speaker 4: the chat to see what was said and now they've
- 0:53Speaker 4: decided it disappears after five days or whatever.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Well, I'm not the only person who has issue with
- 0:58Speaker 3: disappearing messages.
- 0:58Speaker 1: We got a voice note.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Hey, Anile.
- 1:00Speaker 5: I have to whisper a bit now because he's.
- 1:05Speaker 6: In the other room.
- 1:06Speaker 5: Guys, I just want to know something. My boyfriend has
- 1:09Speaker 5: zero messages online. On his WhatsApp.
- 1:12Speaker 4: Like, nothing.
- 1:14Speaker 5: And you know those disappearing messages on WhatsApp? He has
- 1:17Speaker 5: that on, and there are no messages. Nothing from colleagues,
- 1:21Speaker 5: no groups, no archive chats, nothing. Is it a red flag?
- 1:28Speaker 1: Absolutely. There's disappearing messages, then there's nothing.
- 1:31Speaker 7: Absolutely nothing.
- 1:32Speaker 6: She said nothing.
- 1:33Speaker 1: That's different.
- 1:34Speaker 4: No, I think you see, and everybody immediately, your mind
- 1:37Speaker 4: jumps to cheating. I don't even think like it's cheating.
- 1:39Speaker 4: I'd like to know like... that screams dodgy business deal
- 1:43Speaker 4: on your phone. And now I'm in the firing line.
- 1:46Speaker 1: No, thank you.
- 1:47Speaker 6: Absolutely. No, thank you. So does he have like group
- 1:50Speaker 6: chats that don't have messages in them as well?
- 1:51Speaker 1: Or is it just like the concept? He has nothing.
- 1:53Speaker 1: He belongs to no groups. He belongs to nothing.
- 1:55Speaker 3: He's got, okay, I suppose if maybe he is part
- 1:59Speaker 3: of a group, but he deletes it.
- 2:00Speaker 1: I don't know. But the fact that we're out here
- 2:02Speaker 1: trying to figure him out.
- 2:03Speaker 6: Yeah, it's giving. She knows what that man is doing.
- 2:06Speaker 6: And that's why she went investigating in the first place.
- 2:10Speaker 6: Because to know that there's no data from his phone.
- 2:13Speaker 6: It's because she was looking for something very specific. And
- 2:17Speaker 6: you know what they say about snooping? You then become
- 2:20Speaker 6: responsible for what you find.
- 2:21Speaker 1: And regulating your.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Emotions because now you can't tell the person that you
- 2:27Speaker 3: know this thing.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Or he's trying to plan, I mean, we could all
- 2:30Speaker 4: be hopeless romantics and he's trying to plan something amazing
- 2:32Speaker 4: for her and he doesn't want her to find out.
- 2:34Speaker 4: So he's like deleting all possible trace of what could
- 2:38Speaker 4: ruin a very nice surprise for her.
- 2:40Speaker 6: Cindy.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Let's give 10% a chance.
- 2:43Speaker 6: Even colleagues.
- 2:44Speaker 3: You have no messages from your colleagues, your boss, your mom,
- 2:47Speaker 3: your dad, your dog, something, no one.
- 2:50Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if you're planning a surprise, Cindy, I
- 2:52Speaker 6: think I like where you're going with this.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Because colleagues will know about it.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Let's say I'm planning a surprise for my husband and
- 2:58Speaker 4: then I'm messaging Tim Bikili like... And Tim Bikili's like.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Good luck for later.
- 3:02Speaker 4: It's going to be so amazingly romantic.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I don't want him to see that.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Delete all of it.
- 3:06Speaker 6: Maybe.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big red flag. There's a fairy
- 3:09Speaker 1: tale that was.
- 3:11Speaker 4: Hey, Anile.
- 3:12Speaker 5: I have to whisper a bit now because he's in
- 3:16Speaker 5: the other room.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Guys, I just want to know something.
- 3:19Speaker 5: My boyfriend has zero messages on his WhatsApp.
- 3:24Speaker 9: Like.
- 3:24Speaker 6: Nothing.
- 3:25Speaker 5: And you know those disappearing messages on WhatsApp? He has
- 3:29Speaker 5: that on and there are no messages. Nothing from colleagues,
- 3:33Speaker 5: no groups, no archive chats, nothing.
- 3:37Speaker 6: Is it a red flag?
- 3:39Speaker 1: It is because he has another family.
- 3:41Speaker 6: Oh, not another family. Maybe he's got another place of rest.
- 3:47Speaker 6: As a seasoned investigator, my dear, all your conclusions are true.
- 3:50Speaker 6: I'm here to confirm.
- 3:52Speaker 5: 011-8838-947.
- 3:53Speaker 3: There are two questions on the table. Please jump on board. One,
- 3:57Speaker 3: if you have disappearing messages, please just come on board.
- 3:59Speaker 3: I need to understand something.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Why?
- 4:01Speaker 1: Just, yes, just why.
- 4:02Speaker 3: And I'm easy to convince. I'll easily change my mind.
- 4:05Speaker 3: But where I stand right now is that y'all are dodgy.
- 4:08Speaker 3: There's something dicey you're doing for you to have disappearing messages.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Why do you want no trace of what you said
- 4:13Speaker 1: to people?
- 4:14Speaker 9: Mm.
- 4:15Speaker 4: Huh?
- 4:15Speaker 6: Although, whenever there's a WhatsApp group that's hacked, I'm like, oh,
- 4:20Speaker 6: I'd have to leave the country.
- 4:25Speaker 3: And then we want to know, what do you think
- 4:27Speaker 3: of Minente's situation? Is it a red flag, the fact
- 4:31Speaker 3: that her boyfriend has got no messages on his WhatsApp?
- 4:36Speaker 1: Nothing.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Not even from a supplier.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Nothing. He's talking to no one. No one is talking
- 4:42Speaker 1: to him according to his WhatsApp.
- 4:45Speaker 6: Send us a.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Voice to 084-0000947. And if you are getting involved, give
- 4:48Speaker 1: us a call on 1188-38947.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Hey, Anile.
- 4:55Speaker 5: I have to whisper a bit now because he's in
- 4:59Speaker 5: the other room.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Guys, I just want to know something.
- 5:02Speaker 5: My boyfriend has zero messages on his WhatsApp.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Like nothing.
- 5:08Speaker 5: And you know those disappearing messages on WhatsApp? He has
- 5:11Speaker 5: that on and there are no messages. Nothing from colleagues,
- 5:16Speaker 5: no groups, no archive chats, nothing. Is it a red flag?
- 5:22Speaker 1: He is scared by the Madlanga Commission. As I said,
- 5:26Speaker 1: you delete those messages, we retrieve them. So that's why. Shady, shady, shady. Run, run, run.
- 5:33Speaker 1: That's red flag 101.
- 5:34Speaker 4: Yeah!
- 5:36Speaker 3: That guy is either Jonas or he's the Pope's son.
- 5:41Speaker 6: Also, Usindi lives in a cloud because all these theories
- 5:44Speaker 6: of hers.
- 5:45Speaker 1: No. This is what happens when you happily marry people.
- 5:48Speaker 6: Yes. In Cindy's defense, she locked Mark in before social media.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 5:54Speaker 6: Married 20 years.
- 5:56Speaker 3: But now here's the thing about disappearing messages. It also
- 5:58Speaker 3: tells me something about you is that you actually read
- 6:00Speaker 3: the messages from WhatsApp. Because where would you have learned
- 6:03Speaker 3: that there's such a thing as disappearing messages besides from
- 6:05Speaker 3: those messages that WhatsApp sends you every now and then
- 6:07Speaker 3: to be like, look at this new feature. Because how
- 6:09Speaker 3: would you know that your messages can disappear?
- 6:11Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying?
- 6:15Speaker 6: Namla you mean in her case or his case? in
- 6:18Speaker 6: her case in everyone's case to know that the feature
- 6:21Speaker 6: exists is like.
- 6:21Speaker 4: To know that the feature exists is shit okay so
- 6:25Speaker 4: also side note I don't I never go through my
- 6:27Speaker 4: husband's phone ever never have never will so the fact
- 6:30Speaker 4: that she like Temba Kile said was already checking means
- 6:34Speaker 4: that he's already up to something suspicious.
- 6:37Speaker 6: It's the best reading you'll ever do. It's the best
- 6:38Speaker 6: nighttime reading.
- 6:39Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. My husband's phone, I'm pretty sure.
- 6:43Speaker 6: It's just car groups.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Cars, cars, cars. If you want to clean your eyes, go.
- 6:48Speaker 3: Through somebody else's phone because you are.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Going to be.
- 6:51Speaker 6: You don't want to sleep that night.
- 6:53Speaker 1: There's going to be waterworks. Charles, you are in Boxburg.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 6:58Speaker 10: Hi, Anil.
- 6:58Speaker 1: How are you? We're good, Charles.
- 7:00Speaker 4: How are you?
- 7:01Speaker 2: You guys are naughty, you know.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Tina, Mina, ass.
- 7:05Speaker 3: No, let that message disappear right.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Now, Charles. What do you mean?
- 7:10Speaker 7: But guys, but guys, why always when you see a
- 7:15Speaker 7: disappearing message is on somebody's phone and then you think
- 7:18Speaker 7: that this person is cheating or this person is.
- 7:22Speaker 9: Up to something?
- 7:23Speaker 3: Okay, tell us the alternative theory to somebody who's got
- 7:26Speaker 3: a disappearing message.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't have that. You don't
- 7:32Speaker 1: have disappearing messages?
- 7:33Speaker 2: But I have a story.
- 7:35Speaker 7: Why?
- 7:36Speaker 2: I don't want to go through another person's phone.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Okay, why?
- 7:43Speaker 2: When I grew up, I had a girlfriend. I bought
- 7:46Speaker 2: her a phone. Then one day somebody called.
- 7:50Speaker 7: It was a man.
- 7:52Speaker 1: On the phone?
- 7:54Speaker 7: He mentioned the name. And then please give my girlfriend
- 8:00Speaker 7: the phone. This person is my girlfriend.
- 8:05Speaker 2: We grew up together. We were raised together. We have
- 8:09Speaker 2: children together. And we were planning to get married. Then
- 8:15Speaker 2: I buy the phone for her. Somebody calls. Give my
- 8:20Speaker 2: girlfriend the phone.
- 8:21Speaker 8: You?
- 8:22Speaker 1: What do you do?
- 8:24Speaker 7: I said from that day that I will never ever
- 8:28Speaker 7: in my life answer another person's phone or.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Go through any messages.
- 8:34Speaker 6: So what happened to us?
- 8:36Speaker 7: I don't want anybody to.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I'm confused.
- 8:39Speaker 6: Wait, here's the story. Let me catch everyone up. So
- 8:42Speaker 6: he is in a long-term relationship with person A, right?
- 8:45Speaker 6: One day person A's phone is ringing. Charles picks up.
- 8:48Speaker 6: The person on the other side of the phone says,
- 8:50Speaker 6: please give my girlfriend the phone.
- 8:52Speaker 8: Oh.
- 8:52Speaker 6: And that's how he found out that his girlfriend had
- 8:54Speaker 6: a boyfriend.
- 8:55Speaker 5: Oh.
- 8:56Speaker 6: You're welcome.
- 8:57Speaker 1: So this person called on the phone that Charles bought.
- 8:59Speaker 6: Yes, yes.
- 9:00Speaker 9: Oh, Charles.
- 9:00Speaker 3: And then he answered and then this person said, please give.
- 9:02Speaker 1: My girlfriend the phone.
- 9:03Speaker 6: Yes.
- 9:03Speaker 1: And then that was the end of your girlfriend, hey?
- 9:06Speaker 1: You gave this man his girlfriend's.
- 9:08Speaker 10: Yes.
- 9:11Speaker 7: I bought the phone. You know, what was painful was
- 9:14Speaker 7: that I bought the.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Phone for her.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So it's the phone that.
- 9:18Speaker 7: Made her cheat.
- 9:19Speaker 1: It's the phone that made her cheat, not her.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Even now, I cannot enter in anybody's phone.
- 9:28Speaker 7: I cannot. Because I don't want to get hurt.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Charles, are you okay now? You're in a relationship now. Oh,
- 9:34Speaker 1: you have kids with her. Oh, this is tough. Are
- 9:36Speaker 1: you okay now, Charles?
- 9:39Speaker 7: I'm not 100% sure that I'm okay.
- 9:44Speaker 2: But I forgave her.
- 9:45Speaker 6: Okay.
- 9:47Speaker 2: And then now I've been to, I'm a pastor now.
- 9:51Speaker 6: She sent you straight to the Lord.
- 9:55Speaker 7: You guys, you guys, you are my wife. Like, I
- 10:00Speaker 7: don't listen to any other station, to be honest with you.
- 10:03Speaker 6: I feel like we're in a therapy session.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Tell us more, Charles.
- 10:07Speaker 2: From the morning until the end, I listen to you.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Thank you, Pastor Charles. Thank you so much. Men become
- 10:14Speaker 3: pastors when things like this happen to them. And women
- 10:17Speaker 3: go teach English in China.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Correct.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Hey, Anile.
- 10:21Speaker 5: I have to whisper a bit now because he's in
- 10:26Speaker 5: the other room.
- 10:27Speaker 6: Guys, I just want to know something.
- 10:28Speaker 5: My boyfriend has zero messages online. on his WhatsApp.
- 10:33Speaker 4: Like, nothing.
- 10:34Speaker 5: And you know those disappearing messages on WhatsApp? He has
- 10:38Speaker 5: that on, and there are no messages. Nothing from colleagues,
- 10:42Speaker 5: no groups, no archive chats, nothing.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Is it a red flag? What were you doing? What
- 10:52Speaker 1: were you doing on his phone?
- 10:54Speaker 8: That brah's got a second phone somewhere.
- 10:58Speaker 6: There is no.
- 11:00Speaker 5: greater red flag than that in fact scratch it it's
- 11:04Speaker 5: a crimson flag it is.
- 11:06Speaker 11: So deep in as much as i don't condone or
- 11:09Speaker 11: in as much as i also don't understand this issue
- 11:12Speaker 11: of disappearing messages but people let's just stop going through
- 11:17Speaker 11: other people's.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Phones Yeah, yes. But I don't need your phone to
- 11:22Speaker 1: know that you're dodgy.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Because I can just see it on my phone that
- 11:26Speaker 3: you have disappearing messages. Worst with this person is that
- 11:31Speaker 3: he doesn't have any messages.
- 11:34Speaker 6: She said not even in the archives.
- 11:35Speaker 1: That is the PhD, bruh, of dodginess. Taryn, you're in Edenvale.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 11:42Speaker 6: Good morning.
- 11:43Speaker 10: I'm nearly in the club.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Morning, Taryn. How are things on your end?
- 11:47Speaker 7: Great, great, great.
- 11:48Speaker 9: I just want to say that it's my first time.
- 11:51Speaker 6: On the radio.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Really?
- 11:53Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
- 11:56Speaker 3: This is the topic that did it, hey? Disappearing messages.
- 11:59Speaker 6: Okay, okay.
- 12:00Speaker 3: We see you.
- 12:01Speaker 9: Yep.
- 12:03Speaker 8: I think I'm guilty for this. Oh. And I'm in.
- 12:08Speaker 9: A 23-year relationship with my partner. We live together. And
- 12:15Speaker 9: we basically open about everything. He will answer my phone,
- 12:21Speaker 9: I'll answer his phone. And a couple months back, a friend,
- 12:26Speaker 9: a longtime friend, somewhere along the line, we broke up
- 12:30Speaker 9: and then we got back together, but I met somebody.
- 12:33Speaker 9: And this person became interested in me all of a
- 12:35Speaker 9: sudden and we started having conversations. So his specific number,
- 12:42Speaker 9: I put on disappearing messages constantly.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Even dodgier. Oh, another level of dodgy. Rock bottom has
- 12:50Speaker 1: found a basement.
- 12:52Speaker 9: I knew exactly why I was doing it because I
- 12:55Speaker 9: didn't want my partners.
- 12:56Speaker 6: To see it.
- 12:57Speaker 9: Because we were open, you know, and we go through
- 13:01Speaker 9: each other's phones, we chat, we'll have a conversation.
- 13:05Speaker 8: We'll argue about it or whatever, but we'll get, you know,
- 13:08Speaker 8: it's nothing bad. Until this message popped up It's Saturday
- 13:13Speaker 8: morning while I was busy.
- 13:16Speaker 9: And he happened to pick up my phone.
- 13:18Speaker 8: And this guy sent a real raunchy message.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Uh-uh, Taryn. Okay.
- 13:27Speaker 3: So you are here to double stamp that disappearing messages
- 13:30Speaker 3: are dodgy?
- 13:34Speaker 1: Yeah, now she's even disappeared.
- 13:36Speaker 3: She's a disappearing message herself, guys.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Alyssa, you in Randburg. Good morning. Good morning.
- 13:42Speaker 10: Good morning, how are you guys?
- 13:44Speaker 1: We're open to be convinced about disappearing messages. That's how
- 13:47Speaker 1: we are.
- 13:47Speaker 8: How are you?
- 13:49Speaker 10: I'm fantastic.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Okay, talk to us.
- 13:52Speaker 10: Okay, so... I have a person in my life that
- 13:57Speaker 10: has disappearing messages on, but it's because he works in
- 14:03Speaker 10: the fraud department of a specific company. And so if
- 14:08Speaker 10: their phone gets stolen... Obviously, the person doesn't have any
- 14:13Speaker 10: information that, I don't know, he's looking for.
- 14:17Speaker 6: Okay.
- 14:20Speaker 1: And is that what he told you?
- 14:23Speaker 9: Are you not convinced?
- 14:25Speaker 2: No, no.
- 14:25Speaker 3: It is an ask, though.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Is that what he told you?
- 14:33Speaker 10: So I feel like it depends on the person and
- 14:36Speaker 10: what their job is and which contact has disappearing messages on.
- 14:43Speaker 3: So somebody like the CEO of a bank, they also
- 14:49Speaker 3: should have disappearing messages, right?
- 14:51Speaker 8: Yes, I think.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:55Speaker 3: On top of like the many security codes that you
- 14:59Speaker 3: have on the phone. That's the last level of security
- 15:02Speaker 3: is disappearing messages.
- 15:05Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 15:06Speaker 10: So when I went to the rugby with this person,
- 15:10Speaker 10: his phone got stolen.
- 15:13Speaker 3: So the emails on the phone, that's okay. The emails
- 15:17Speaker 3: don't disappear, but the messages, those are the ones that disappear.
- 15:22Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Okay.
- 15:24Speaker 1: No, I hear you.
- 15:27Speaker 8: Do you hear you?
- 15:28Speaker 10: I don't feel like it.
- 15:30Speaker 6: I am.
- 15:30Speaker 1: I'm here.
- 15:34Speaker 10: Me.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Alyssa, I came to work.
- 15:37Speaker 6: I'm here.
- 15:37Speaker 10: I'm on my way to work.
- 15:38Speaker 6: Okay. Oh, this is going to bother the whole day.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Okay, Alyssa. Thank you for this call. We love you.
- 15:45Speaker 10: Love you too.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Bye.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Bye.
- 15:48Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 15:51Speaker 8: Because.
- 15:54Speaker 1: All security measures. You know what I'm saying? Your Facebook,
- 15:58Speaker 1: your Instagram, your everything. WhatsApp. Your emails.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Because actually that's where most of the information. If you
- 16:05Speaker 3: are the head of fraud or risk or whatever at
- 16:07Speaker 3: a bank, they're not sending you updates on WhatsApp.
- 16:10Speaker 8: Yes.
- 16:11Speaker 1: They send you on emails. Those don't disappear. But the WhatsApp.
- 16:15Speaker 1: But the WhatsApp. They must go. I hear you. We
- 16:18Speaker 1: are here. Back to making your morning.
- 16:21Speaker 4: Back.
- 16:22Speaker 3: On L.A.
- 16:23Speaker 1: And the club. I love this show.
- 16:24Speaker 8: On 947.