Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Physical "Types": What Are They And Why Are They Important
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the doctor psych mom, show today.
- 0:09I am going to talk about why people have physical types.
- 0:13This was a request for my Facebook group, and it has to do
- 0:18with many things. Basically, it's another version
- 0:21of Imago and I also discuss what you should do if you want to
- 0:27marry. Somebody who isn't your type.
- 0:28I've talked about this whole topic when I talk about when
- 0:32you've just never been attracted to your partner, I touch on This
- 0:35and also when men don't want sex but I can go into it more in
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- 1:00Okay, so what does it really mean to have a physical type?
- 1:04Well, first of all, This isn't really just a physical type, I
- 1:07mean, yeah, people say, oh, my type is tall guys or something.
- 1:11But then when it gets down to brass tacks, or type is like
- 1:14tall thin guys who are intellectuals.
- 1:17I'm just not saying that because of anything related to my own
- 1:20marriage. Just kidding.
- 1:21That is my type. That's my husband.
- 1:25But or they'll be like, oh, yeah.
- 1:27I just like big boobs, but like, they don't just, like, big
- 1:30boobs. Say, like, big boobs, and like a
- 1:33woman who acts like a Certain flirty way and is also kind of
- 1:39dresses, a certain way, like, everybody has their thing, you
- 1:43know. And that's why you call it a
- 1:46type. It's not just like a body part.
- 1:49It's like a whole vibe as the young people say, and I only
- 1:53know what they say, because I am a parent to young people.
- 1:58So, yeah. So, like, a whole type is
- 2:02usually comes from somewhere in your early life.
- 2:05If you don't know this, it's interesting because fetishes are
- 2:07also develop in childhood and people say, children, you know,
- 2:11people nowadays put children in this like Purity puritanical
- 2:15category of like beings, without any sorts of thoughts about sex?
- 2:19That isn't true of you ever been a child, you know, children have
- 2:22crushes children. Like, by the time, they hit like
- 2:26tween years. They definitely think about sex,
- 2:29in some way or another, even if they don't think of it as sex,
- 2:33they know what they are attracted to.
- 2:35This is when they start saying so.
- 2:36And so it was cute. So, like, that doesn't happen
- 2:39when you hit the age of 18 or 21, you know?
- 2:43I mean it happens like in Middle School like puberty happens,
- 2:47your hormones turn on, and this is when people children of that
- 2:51age, start to develop types and things like that.
- 2:54So and who they think is cute and a lot of that last forever,
- 2:58you know, the same type that you thought was cute.
- 3:00When you were 12 or 13, is probably the type that you think
- 3:04is cute. Now, And fetishes, develop even
- 3:07earlier than that, actually. But, but yes, like those those
- 3:11are also from things that you see in your environment.
- 3:13So, the major ways that I've seen your upbringing relate to,
- 3:17your type are either. You get somebody exactly like a
- 3:20parent that you idealized whichever parent that was
- 3:23doesn't have to be the same gender.
- 3:25So like it let's say Your mother was very you know let's say that
- 3:32your mother was tall and imposing And she kind of made
- 3:37comments about, you know, that were dismissive and whatever.
- 3:41Well you are gonna go for some like big avoidant attachment
- 3:45man, if you're like a heterosexual woman, you know?
- 3:48I mean you don't have to go for the same gender but it's going
- 3:50to be somebody that is like whatever parent you put on a
- 3:53pedestal or if you had difficulty with some parent,
- 3:57what I've seen a lot of and actuality is men who had very
- 4:01intrusive like superwoman. Womanly sexual mothers like
- 4:07mothers who are on the narcissus scale, somewhere, who were
- 4:11always trying to kind of get men with their looks.
- 4:14And these men are always focused on women's looks, you know, like
- 4:20like they want, like, the model type or like the girl who
- 4:23everybody thinks is hot which like, you, maybe like, who
- 4:25doesn't want that? Plenty of, guys.
- 4:27Don't want that. You know, plenty of guys, are
- 4:29they do not need every head to turn when their wife walks into
- 4:33a room. But guys who have Mother's That
- 4:35we're like kind of high up on the narcissist scale and look
- 4:38down on other women for not being pretty frequently.
- 4:41They have learned from their mothers that like hotness is the
- 4:44most important thing. And I've actually seen it now
- 4:47that I think about it, also, with women who had a
- 4:50narcissistic father's that they go for a guy and who's really
- 4:53into his looks and his whole his car and his suits, and his
- 4:57haircut and everything, they'll kind of go for guys like that
- 5:00too. Sometimes if you have bad enough
- 5:03issues with a parent then you will develop.
- 5:05Philip a type in opposition to that.
- 5:07So like if your mother was this super sexual woman, that was
- 5:10like, always trying to, you know, get men from based on her
- 5:13looks and her body. Then you might go for a woman
- 5:16who is very kind of shy and demure, but I mean, it remains
- 5:20to be seen, like, kind of like, who knows what those men Google
- 5:24on PornHub, you know, like that may not actually be there type,
- 5:28but there are some men who like kind of brag about being with
- 5:32like a woman who's like, deeper than They are shallow mother you
- 5:37know and by deeper they mean not only that she thinks deeply but
- 5:40also that she doesn't care like ostensibly doesn't care as much
- 5:44about, you know, the like dressing a certain way to
- 5:48attract men. But again, like I've I have more
- 5:52often seen that if you have a narcissistic parent, who is
- 5:55really into their looks, then you're going to be drawn to a
- 5:57very specific conventionally super attractive type of person
- 6:01and that will be part of your identity to get like the model.
- 6:05All type of person, the person that other people envy and that
- 6:08everybody considers quote hot. But this does not apply to
- 6:12everybody because everybody doesn't have a narcissistic
- 6:14parent. So most people it's like you
- 6:17know my mom was like a small blond and somehow I like end up
- 6:22going for a small women or blond women or both you know and so it
- 6:27really does start there for some people.
- 6:29It's not about that. It's about like an ant or a
- 6:31sibling but it's not going to come from nowhere, you know,
- 6:34like your type. Comes from somewhere in your
- 6:36subconscious to same way as fetishes.
- 6:39Like if a guy is a pantyhose fetish, don't even think people
- 6:42wear pantyhose anymore. So pantyhose fetish must be
- 6:44dying off. But it's usually because they
- 6:47saw a lot of pantyhose growing up, you know, and like their mom
- 6:50their aunts, whoever, you know, they had positive experiences
- 6:54with women acting nicely to them, while they were wearing
- 6:56pantyhose and something just clicked, you know, and their
- 6:59brain. But anyway, so you have a
- 7:02certain type and it goes usually, Even if you think of it
- 7:05as physical, it goes beyond the physical.
- 7:08So like women will be like, have a physical type.
- 7:10It's like this big buff alpha male like alpha male is not a
- 7:14body type. So yes.
- 7:16When you mean it's like some big confident, arrogant guy who goes
- 7:20to the gym. Cool.
- 7:22You know, I mean but that is not just physical because there's
- 7:25also shy guys who go to the gym and you're not as into them.
- 7:28And this remember that's not everybody like if you if you are
- 7:32a part of a lot of men's Forums on the internet, you'll be like
- 7:35Yeah, literally every woman is like dying to have some like big
- 7:38alpha male goes to the gym that is like not true at all, at all
- 7:44at all. Like that is totally not true.
- 7:46Like, certainly there's some women that like that, but
- 7:48there's plenty of women that don't like that and that are not
- 7:51just not attracted to that. So, so let's say that you.
- 7:55All right, so we talked about physical type, so let's say
- 7:57you're like, yeah, I definitely know my physical type, but
- 7:59here's the thing is, like, I met this person is really nice and
- 8:02they're not my type. They're like so Nice.
- 8:06And I'm in the honeymoon stage right now and I can just see
- 8:08marrying them, don't do that. Save yourself some heartache
- 8:12down the line because you're in the honeymoon phase so you could
- 8:15probably have sex with like a wall and enjoy it, you know,
- 8:19because your hormones are racing if you even at this honeymoon
- 8:24stage you know that this man is in your type or this woman isn't
- 8:26your type go away from them like really like it's I mean it
- 8:33sounds harsh and maybe for some people.
- 8:35It's out. I mean, remember, like, you
- 8:38know, I see a lot of unhappy couples, so maybe there's a lot
- 8:42of happy ones hiding somewhere that marry against type.
- 8:44But both of our personal life, in terms of friends that I have
- 8:47and in terms of clients that I see people seem to always be
- 8:51happier when they feel like they got that person that they always
- 8:55wanted. There's even some Tick-Tock
- 8:57thing out now about my childhood crush, and my wife, / husband
- 9:02now and the funny part is that there Like so similar, there's
- 9:06even some guy who did it for joke that he liked had a crush
- 9:09on like Cinderella or something. Like the cartoon that is actual
- 9:13wife is blond blue-eyed woman and it's like looks kind of like
- 9:17the cartoon. And so the idea is like this in
- 9:21the mainstream media. Even you know is that you would
- 9:24of course, be happier is the conceit if you marry somebody
- 9:28who is like the person you always wanted and it really
- 9:31Bears out in what I see because I have seen Many cases where the
- 9:36person's like, we just really didn't have the spark that I had
- 9:39with other people but the sex was good, you know, at the
- 9:43beginning. But now I really am not
- 9:45attracted to this person. And that's usually because they
- 9:51say something like, yeah, every woman, I did it until her had
- 9:54red hair and then, you know, like, but she was real nice and
- 9:57pretty and stuff, and she's has brown hair and I'm married her.
- 10:01And, you know, um, and what they're saying in the arm is Is
- 10:05she never turned out to be as, as compelling to me is the ones
- 10:09with red hair or whatever else. You know, the whole vibe as I
- 10:13said of red hair people, it's not just gonna be red hair.
- 10:16It's gonna be red hair and big boobs, like Jessica Rabbit or
- 10:19something, you know. So whatever the case may be, so
- 10:23if you are drawn to marry somebody, that isn't your tape,
- 10:26it's probably because you're trying to kind of use your
- 10:29rational brain to make better decisions.
- 10:32And while I do, definitely say people should Certainly turned
- 10:36their brain on when they're dating, not just date with their
- 10:38genitals. There is also something to be
- 10:41said for a spark and chemistry, and if you do not feel like you
- 10:46have been at your max attraction capacity to your spouse, don't
- 10:52marry that to your prospective spouse.
- 10:54Don't marry them. And this is like how I did a
- 10:57podcast. Like, of course, you should
- 10:58marry the best sex you ever had. You can.
- 11:00And you should, because there was I forget what spurred that
- 11:03it was something that I read. If you listen to the podcast,
- 11:06I'm sure I said what's bertadawn where somebody on social media
- 11:12said like you shouldn't or, or you can't or nobody women.
- 11:16Don't marry that. This what it was women don't
- 11:19marry the best sex I ever had. It was then saying, basically,
- 11:23Women Marry a provider but the past month that they, dated,
- 11:27were the men that they really were sexually attracted to, and
- 11:31that's like not true for the average woman.
- 11:34You know what? And I knew many average women
- 11:37when we were all, you know, single back in the day and women
- 11:42were happy to be with the person that they were super attracted
- 11:47to this is who they wanted to marry.
- 11:49So, I don't know about all these like people women who are making
- 11:52these conscious decisions to marry providers that is that in
- 11:55no way, replicates anything that I saw in my, in my friend group
- 12:00or anything. And, of course, I mean, the
- 12:01Myriad, women who I speak to, in my practice, who were Primary
- 12:05Breadwinners or like, what the fuck.
- 12:07I must have missed that boat because, you know, like I was, I
- 12:10was always on tractor and more than my partner.
- 12:13And there are way more women like that then male primary
- 12:17Breadwinners, realize, and increasingly more all the time.
- 12:19I think by now it's like 30% or something of women are primary
- 12:23Breadwinners or more because that, that includes single
- 12:27mothers, I don't remember. But it's definitely, at least
- 12:2930, which is more than it's ever been and it's increasing all the
- 12:33time but the the case that the When I was trying to make is
- 12:37yes, you should marry somebody that you're super attracted to
- 12:40and yes, you should marry somebody who's your type.
- 12:42This is physical and like, emotionally physically and
- 12:46emotionally important, the emotional piece because if you
- 12:49do not marry, somebody who's like this, you're always going
- 12:52to be yearning for somebody. Who is your type, you know, and
- 12:56you will always have your head turn.
- 12:58So it's a risk to the marriage because of somebody who is your
- 13:00type hits on you later on when you're like a bad place with the
- 13:04quotes. Seven year, itch, or whatever,
- 13:06in the marriage, then? Yeah, I mean it's going to be
- 13:09it's going to be more more of a threat to the commitment and
- 13:14that shouldn't be true. But it is true because people
- 13:17are human they're people by definition.
- 13:19So if you owe and then sometimes people say well you know my
- 13:24boyfriend or girlfriend before me always dated one type and I'm
- 13:27not that type well you know tread carefully and try to look
- 13:34very objectively Your relationship.
- 13:35If that's the case, are there any signals that your partner is
- 13:40not as into you as they were into other people?
- 13:43You know, is there this kind of like, like feeling or do they
- 13:48explicitly, or implicitly State really, that, it's just
- 13:52different with you. It's a more mature relationship.
- 13:55That's never a good sign. When people say, it's just a
- 13:58more mature relationship, could people mature and immature and
- 14:02mature until they die. So, what they would think, They
- 14:05may mean by saying that is it's almost like a post sexual
- 14:09relationship you know. Like I was young and led around
- 14:13by my dick or my vagina and now I'm not I'm mature and I am able
- 14:18to see that attraction, isn't everything?
- 14:20And that's not who you want to marry.
- 14:22That's not who's going to be totally in love with you.
- 14:24I talked about this is particularly important for women
- 14:28to be the attractive, the man's most attractive partner, because
- 14:33men are super visual And I've done a whole podcast on that
- 14:37that research shows that couples are happier when the woman is
- 14:41considered more attractive than the man by everybody including
- 14:44the man and the woman. But but anyway, yes, you should
- 14:49tread carefully. Of course, if maybe there are
- 14:51people who mean this relationship is more mature
- 14:54because I used to have borderline personality and I
- 14:56worked on myself a lot in therapy and now I don't, you
- 14:59know, throw Molotov cocktails and to my boyfriend's apartment
- 15:03when I'm mad cool. Cool.
- 15:05Then that's like a good version of a more mature relationship
- 15:08but if somebody means yeah, like with my exes it was just all
- 15:11about sex and with you you know it isn't and that's so great and
- 15:14we're so compatible. No, that just means like they
- 15:18are disillusioned with the world and they are like sick and tired
- 15:23of dating and they're trying to hope against hope that there is
- 15:26some like post. So again, post sexual sort of
- 15:30relationship. That is an option for them and
- 15:33unless that's what you want too. Or unless you're both 85 years
- 15:37old, it really shouldn't be what you're going for.
- 15:41So anyway, that is what I think about types physical types and
- 15:44the whole idea of them in addition to what to do if you
- 15:49are not with one or with somebody who thinks that you are
- 15:53their type or not with somebody who who is your tidy.
- 15:56All right, I hope that I'll enjoy this.
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