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- 1:09Speaker 2: Chuck, Mike and Tucker with you here and as we
- 1:13Speaker 2: continue through the week, big story obviously continues to be
- 1:17Speaker 2: what is going on in the Middle East and its
- 1:20Speaker 2: impact on energy markets, on other commodity markets, the global
- 1:24Speaker 2: economy as well as well. That's that's basically everything. Once
- 1:29Speaker 2: you start talking about the the global economy. You know,
- 1:32Speaker 2: the galactic economy is probably not heavily impacted from what
- 1:37Speaker 2: I can tell, but globally it's it's a pretty big deal.
- 1:39Speaker 2: So in terms of what markets are doing today, the
- 1:42Speaker 2: answer is nothing good. We've got the Dow Jones Industrial
- 1:46Speaker 2: Average off about six hundred points one and a third percent,
- 1:49Speaker 2: SP five hundred down eighty three points one to quarter percent,
- 1:51Speaker 2: and NASDAK Composite down three hundred and eighty five points
- 1:54Speaker 2: one and three quarters percent, So all major US indices
- 1:58Speaker 2: are selling off today. When we take a look at
- 2:02Speaker 2: other markets beyond just what's going on in the equity world,
- 2:07Speaker 2: again continued not good. Ten year Treasury up another three
- 2:11Speaker 2: point nine basis points to four point two four five percent,
- 2:13Speaker 2: so we've now seen a full quarter percent rise in
- 2:16Speaker 2: the tenure treasury. Mortgage rates also by the way have
- 2:19Speaker 2: moved up with this as well. Thirty year fixed rate
- 2:23Speaker 2: up to six and a quarter percent as of the
- 2:25Speaker 2: close yesterday according to Mortgage News Daily, and that thirty
- 2:30Speaker 2: year fixed as recently as February twenty seventh was at
- 2:35Speaker 2: five point nine nine percent, so a quarter percent move
- 2:37Speaker 2: up in mortgage rates right as the spring housing season
- 2:41Speaker 2: kicks off as well.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Of dollar surprising Dollar.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Index is up zero point four one percent to ninety
- 2:47Speaker 2: nine sixty three, so you are seeing the dollar catch
- 2:50Speaker 2: a bid. This makes sense when you think about it
- 2:52Speaker 2: from a commodity perspective and the fact that the United
- 2:56Speaker 2: States does possess vast reservoirs of many commodities that other
- 3:01Speaker 2: countries simply don't possess, and so it clicks from that
- 3:06Speaker 2: perspective when you're looking at exchange rates, gold down thirty
- 3:10Speaker 2: dollars and twenty cents nowns to fifty one forty eight
- 3:12Speaker 2: and ninety cent, and crude oil West Texas is intermediate
- 3:17Speaker 2: up undother eight dollars and thirty five cents a barrel
- 3:19Speaker 2: to ninety five fifty today sorry ninety five sixty today,
- 3:23Speaker 2: So that's almost a ten percent move triple a national
- 3:26Speaker 2: average for gas prices rose to three point fifty nine
- 3:29Speaker 2: to eight tenths overnight.
- 3:31Speaker 3: That was up two cent.
- 3:33Speaker 2: If these West Texas intermediate prices hold, you're probably getting
- 3:36Speaker 2: into the low three seventies tomorrow nationally, and diesel probably
- 3:41Speaker 2: starting to push five dollars a gallon after being at
- 3:45Speaker 2: four eighty six right now. It was three sixty six
- 3:48Speaker 2: a gallon for diesel a month ago. So again you're
- 3:51Speaker 2: seeing continued upward pressure on commodity prices. Uh So that is,
- 3:57Speaker 2: you know, kind of the big stuff that's going on.
- 4:00Speaker 2: No major change in terms of the status of things
- 4:04Speaker 2: in the Middle East. Hormuz remains largely closed at the moment.
- 4:08Speaker 2: I did see, and let me just get confirmation of
- 4:12Speaker 2: this before I actually say anything on it, because again
- 4:16Speaker 2: I saw it come across the uh the.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Social media feed.
- 4:21Speaker 2: But I just want to make sure that I have
- 4:24Speaker 2: all my ducks in a row on it.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Let's see a.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Good lesson because generally speaking, you should trust absolutely nothing
- 4:32Speaker 4: that you see on social media right now.
- 4:33Speaker 2: No, the information environment right now is kind of crazy
- 4:39Speaker 2: and so yes, so this is from Bloomberg. The Trump
- 4:43Speaker 2: administration plans to issue thirty day waivers for the Jones Act.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Jones Act, if you're not familiar with it, is a
- 4:51Speaker 2: maritime law that requires American built ships to be used
- 4:54Speaker 2: for transporting goods between US ports. And so the the
- 5:00Speaker 2: Trump administration waving that for thirty days in order to
- 5:04Speaker 2: allow for other vessels to be able to transport goods
- 5:08Speaker 2: between US ports.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Is it just?
- 5:10Speaker 4: I think it's built, flagged, and staffed, right, yes, So
- 5:13Speaker 4: it's all. It is all three, and they're waving some
- 5:15Speaker 4: portion of the Jones Act for a period of time. So, Chuck,
- 5:18Speaker 4: I think when we take a look at the market
- 5:22Speaker 4: reaction to what we've seen so far, most of it's
- 5:24Speaker 4: been fairly orderly. Oil markets are an exception there. You've
- 5:28Speaker 4: seen massive swings and oil markets unsurprisingly, but other parts
- 5:32Speaker 4: of markets have been.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Even oil markets, to be honest, have been fairly orderly,
- 5:38Speaker 2: aside from the Sunday Night Future Session, which the Sunday
- 5:41Speaker 2: Night Future Session is always a cluster when weird stuff
- 5:45Speaker 2: is going on. You remember, back in the Russia Ukraine conflict,
- 5:49Speaker 2: there was one I forget what Sunday it was. It
- 5:52Speaker 2: was either in March or April. It was like a
- 5:53Speaker 2: month or two after it had broken out, and oil
- 5:57Speaker 2: futures like just shot up to the moon and we
- 6:00Speaker 2: never touch those again, right because the Sunday night session
- 6:02Speaker 2: it's thinly traded. No one knows what's going on after
- 6:06Speaker 2: the weekend, and so you see all kinds of crazy
- 6:08Speaker 2: stuff there. Other than that, like, yes, there have been
- 6:12Speaker 2: large moves, but it's been kind of like a slow
- 6:13Speaker 2: and steady, slow and steady.
- 6:15Speaker 3: It's been a steady.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Okay, oil prices up five percent today, five percent, you
- 6:20Speaker 2: know the next day. It hasn't been you know, some
- 6:22Speaker 2: catastrophic one day blowout aside from that Sunday Future session
- 6:26Speaker 2: where they went from ten to thirty percent up very quickly.
- 6:29Speaker 4: So earlier this week we talked about, you know, potential
- 6:31Speaker 4: best and worst case scenarios. I think the best case
- 6:33Speaker 4: is pretty obvious. You have some form of ceasefire that
- 6:36Speaker 4: has an ability to stay, which allows more ships to
- 6:39Speaker 4: navigate the straight of horn Moves, and the worst case
- 6:41Speaker 4: being that the current status quo extends for a longer
- 6:45Speaker 4: period of time. What are the signals that we're looking
- 6:50Speaker 4: for that you know, ultimately the blocking of the strait
- 6:54Speaker 4: of the horn moves is the very top of the funnel.
- 6:58Speaker 4: What are the other areas that we look at for
- 7:00Speaker 4: indications that things are dramatically deteriorating. Right, Is it refineries
- 7:05Speaker 4: shutting down? Is it signals that we can get from
- 7:08Speaker 4: agricultural industries and such?
- 7:10Speaker 3: Like?
- 7:11Speaker 5: Where will things start to show up.
- 7:13Speaker 4: In your mind that are a really bad indicator for
- 7:18Speaker 4: the global economy, you know, more than.
- 7:22Speaker 3: We're starting to see them?
- 7:23Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're seeing them in Asia because Asia is
- 7:26Speaker 2: heavily dependent. Remember, most of the stuff that is produced
- 7:31Speaker 2: in that shipped through Hormuz. It flows east, it doesn't
- 7:35Speaker 2: flow west. So this is why the US is going
- 7:39Speaker 2: to remain more insulated from the economic impacts of this
- 7:42Speaker 2: than just about any other country because the vast majority
- 7:45Speaker 2: of what goes through there flows east, not west. And
- 7:49Speaker 2: so if you look at it like things that you're
- 7:51Speaker 2: seeing today, South Korea has already imposed price caps on fuel.
- 7:58Speaker 3: That's like where you start talking about fuel shortage is happening.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I forget if it was Tiland or Vietnam, but one
- 8:04Speaker 2: of them like put out a big advisory with one
- 8:07Speaker 2: of the things being included, like take the stairs, don't
- 8:09Speaker 2: take the elevator. When you're giving that advice to people,
- 8:14Speaker 2: it's like, okay, Like there's you know, a real problem.
- 8:17Speaker 2: You've got reports of diesel shortages throughout the Southeast Asia
- 8:22Speaker 2: region as well that are causing factories to not be
- 8:25Speaker 2: able to operate at full speed. These are like the
- 8:28Speaker 2: early stages of what you'll see. Again, some of it
- 8:33Speaker 2: it can just be you know, hey, like none of
- 8:35Speaker 2: this stuff is in the right place based on the disruption,
- 8:38Speaker 2: you have.
- 8:38Speaker 3: To move it around a little.
- 8:40Speaker 2: But ultimately, when you're talking about this scale of disruption,
- 8:45Speaker 2: there are two ways that you can resolve it. You
- 8:47Speaker 2: either have to boost supply to get back to where
- 8:49Speaker 2: demand is or demand destruction needs to happen, and that
- 8:54Speaker 2: means lower activity throughout the world.
- 8:57Speaker 4: It would be have to have to be a hell
- 8:58Speaker 4: of a lot of demand destruction doesn't seemed likely even
- 9:00Speaker 4: at these prices.
- 9:02Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's look with with what the Saudis
- 9:04Speaker 2: are doing trying to pump east to west in order
- 9:07Speaker 2: to get it out the Red Sea, get oil out
- 9:09Speaker 2: the Red Sea. It's gonna help things a little bit.
- 9:13Speaker 2: The spr releases will help a little. But again you're
- 9:15Speaker 2: going from hey, it's a twenty million barrel a day
- 9:18Speaker 2: deficit to like an eight million barrel a day deficit
- 9:22Speaker 2: that still is a meaningful deficit.
- 9:24Speaker 3: It doesn't solve it.
- 9:26Speaker 2: And this also assumes that like this will continue to
- 9:28Speaker 2: work in this fashion, right. I mean, you've got this
- 9:31Speaker 2: giant pipeline that goes all through Saudi Arabia that you know,
- 9:34Speaker 2: brings stuff from east to west. Who's to say that
- 9:37Speaker 2: Iran doesn't eventually say hey, stop doing that, and they
- 9:42Speaker 2: target it with a couple of drones and maybe you're
- 9:43Speaker 2: successful with one.
- 9:46Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's one.
- 9:50Speaker 2: It's a situation in which the best outcome is a
- 9:54Speaker 2: resolution today, and every day that you go forward, the
- 9:58Speaker 2: problem is becoming worse because is again we're I just
- 10:02Speaker 2: talked about oil. There oils only one of the things
- 10:05Speaker 2: that goes out like that. There's no East West pipeline
- 10:08Speaker 2: for eureea. Yeah, there's no East West pipeline for aluminum.
- 10:13Speaker 2: That stuff that is made in the Gulf that can't
- 10:15Speaker 2: get out. It just doesn't get out. It just sits there.
- 10:21Speaker 2: And so this is problematic. The other thing that's really interesting,
- 10:25Speaker 2: quite honestly, one of the things that we've been seeing
- 10:28Speaker 2: is again kind of fascinating to watch. A lot of
- 10:32Speaker 2: the golf countries have been drawing down their oil stocks,
- 10:35Speaker 2: and you'll be saying, like, well, why are they doing that,
- 10:37Speaker 2: like the ones that can at least, And basically what
- 10:40Speaker 2: they're doing is they're they're emptying their their tanks on
- 10:43Speaker 2: land into these tankers that are trapped in the gulf
- 10:47Speaker 2: because then it gives them more room to keep pumping
- 10:50Speaker 2: oil into the storage that's on land. And the reason
- 10:54Speaker 2: why this matters is if they have to stop pumping
- 10:57Speaker 2: and shut in a well, that is a much longer
- 11:01Speaker 2: process to restart that well and potentially not at the
- 11:04Speaker 2: same flow rate as.
- 11:05Speaker 3: When you initially closed it. Right. So the interesting thing
- 11:09Speaker 3: that you've been seeing is like there are.
- 11:10Speaker 2: These ballast ships that are basically like sitting in the
- 11:12Speaker 2: Persian Gulf that have been empty and they're starting to
- 11:16Speaker 2: fill up over the last week or so now, but
- 11:19Speaker 2: they can't go anywhere, and so it's like, oh, like
- 11:20Speaker 2: you're taking this oil, maybe you're gonna get underway. No,
- 11:23Speaker 2: we're just we're sitting here because you've got all this
- 11:26Speaker 2: production and it needs to get offshore so that the
- 11:30Speaker 2: so that the onshore storage facilities don't fill up and
- 11:33Speaker 2: you have to stop production. So that's been kind of
- 11:36Speaker 2: interesting too. Again, It's remember I am not an energy expert.
- 11:40Speaker 2: I know like four percent of what I need in
- 11:43Speaker 2: order to be dangerous, but I try to read like
- 11:46Speaker 2: people that are, you know, in my opinion experts on
- 11:49Speaker 2: this stuff. And so it's it's been informative over the
- 11:53Speaker 2: last week or two. But uh yeah, again with all
- 11:57Speaker 2: of this, take it all with a grain of salt,
- 11:59Speaker 2: because the informationarment is very fluid, very confusing, and no
- 12:02Speaker 2: one near really knows one hundred percent of what's going on.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we
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- 12:12Speaker 2: stressing people out.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Man, is it? Well?
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- 14:23Speaker 3: Mike is Ai'm making your workload more intense? Um?
- 14:32Speaker 4: Personally, I don't know, not really, but the survey that
- 14:36Speaker 4: was conducted seems to conclude that that the employees who
- 14:39Speaker 4: were spoken to worked at faster paces, took on broader
- 14:42Speaker 4: scopes of tasks and ended up working more hours. So
- 14:47Speaker 4: let's talk about that. If true, it means to me
- 14:51Speaker 4: one of two things. Either employees are becoming more productive
- 14:55Speaker 4: they can get more done in the same number or
- 14:57Speaker 4: even more hours, and and it means that you need
- 15:02Speaker 4: fewer employees to do the same thing, or the same
- 15:04Speaker 4: number of employees to do more things, which would be
- 15:07Speaker 4: exactly what you.
- 15:08Speaker 5: Want out of a new technological development.
- 15:10Speaker 4: The other possibility here that I think is very common,
- 15:14Speaker 4: especially in big organizations, is employees are just spending more
- 15:20Speaker 4: time and more intensity pondering decisions with more data from
- 15:28Speaker 4: AI and ultimately achieving the same stuff. I just think
- 15:32Speaker 4: of my time at as some big organizations where you know,
- 15:36Speaker 4: a project would get done in whatever time you allowed
- 15:39Speaker 4: to get it done, and if you gave it a
- 15:41Speaker 4: month and a half, then you would spend a full
- 15:43Speaker 4: month and a half debating back and forth about how
- 15:46Speaker 4: the project should be done and ultimately achieving the same
- 15:49Speaker 4: thing that it would have taken over a week and
- 15:51Speaker 4: a half if you had just pushed yourself to get
- 15:54Speaker 4: it done. Yeah, I'm not sure really which one we're
- 15:57Speaker 4: getting going down? Like it is AI just allowing us
- 16:00Speaker 4: to accomplish a bunch of useless work.
- 16:04Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's useless work. Most you think
- 16:09Speaker 3: all of our work's useless. I obviously not all of
- 16:14Speaker 3: it is useless work.
- 16:15Speaker 4: But I can kind of paint a picture in my
- 16:17Speaker 4: mind where we're we're using AI to you know, try
- 16:21Speaker 4: and answer questions in different ways and ultimately coming to
- 16:24Speaker 4: the same conclusions while doing more work.
- 16:26Speaker 3: To get there.
- 16:27Speaker 2: Well, I think that I'm wondering how much of this is.
- 16:33Speaker 2: You know, people that are asking AI questions versus people
- 16:36Speaker 2: that are just finding AI can do their work for
- 16:38Speaker 2: them more quickly and just being overwhelmed by what that means.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Because if it's the latter, the case I made, I
- 16:44Speaker 2: think it was a week or two ago, was look,
- 16:46Speaker 2: if you took someone from nineteen twenty and put them
- 16:49Speaker 2: into today's world even before I like, take them from
- 16:52Speaker 2: nineteen twenty and put them into like twenty nineteen, and
- 16:54Speaker 2: they'd be like, my goodness, like this is so fast.
- 16:59Speaker 2: It's Shawshank Redemption. Red gets out of prison and is like,
- 17:03Speaker 2: not Red, I forget his name, what's his name? Overwhelmed
- 17:08Speaker 2: brooksy brooksy Brooks gets out and is like, you know,
- 17:11Speaker 2: it's too fast that the world has gone and like
- 17:14Speaker 2: it got.
- 17:14Speaker 3: Itself in a big old hurry, right yep.
- 17:16Speaker 2: And it's just because he was in prison for thirty
- 17:18Speaker 2: years and like the world changed so much, and he's like, man,
- 17:21Speaker 2: this is nuts. So I guess what I'm wondering is
- 17:25Speaker 2: with how quickly AI allows things to iterate. Is it
- 17:29Speaker 2: just you know, previous technological innovation moved at a certain
- 17:33Speaker 2: pace that we could kind of keep up with, and
- 17:35Speaker 2: this is just a huge jump forward, and how quickly
- 17:38Speaker 2: it can do things like I had a buddy of
- 17:40Speaker 2: mine who again this is in the software space, which
- 17:43Speaker 2: is where a lot of the early gains are happening,
- 17:46Speaker 2: and he was telling me. He's like, I had to
- 17:47Speaker 2: build I forget what it was it with some kind
- 17:49Speaker 2: of thing. He's like, normally I would like bring a
- 17:52Speaker 2: person onto my team, tell them like speck it out
- 17:55Speaker 2: and everything, and it would be a three month project
- 17:57Speaker 2: for them to do it. He's like, I did it
- 18:00Speaker 2: myself with AI in a day and a half.
- 18:04Speaker 4: Okay, so let's take that same person and put him
- 18:07Speaker 4: in this study or her in this study, whatever, whoever
- 18:10Speaker 4: it was. You're being asked by your employer by a
- 18:14Speaker 4: random survey or how is AI impacting your life? If
- 18:18Speaker 4: I'm that person and I'm worried about my job, my
- 18:21Speaker 4: answer looks remarkably similar to the one that was just given.
- 18:24Speaker 4: The employees worked at a faster pace, took on broader
- 18:27Speaker 4: scopes of tasks, and ended up working more hours. If
- 18:29Speaker 4: I'm trying to justify my existence, yes, that's the answer
- 18:33Speaker 4: I give.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Yeah, So like.
- 18:37Speaker 5: This is why I'm not sure the surveys are all
- 18:39Speaker 5: that useful.
- 18:40Speaker 3: That's fair.
- 18:41Speaker 5: If I'm worried about my job.
- 18:43Speaker 4: This is the precise answer I'm going to give, which
- 18:45Speaker 4: is I'm able to do more and I'm willing to
- 18:48Speaker 4: work more hours. So bring it on, and I can
- 18:51Speaker 4: use AI to do that, because if I give any
- 18:55Speaker 4: answer that, if I give an honest answer like the
- 18:57Speaker 4: one that you just gave, then I might be out
- 18:59Speaker 4: my job or are my employees out their job?
- 19:01Speaker 3: And I don't really like that either way.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Reuters, by the way, now reporting they've put out a
- 19:07Speaker 2: clarification that the Jones Act waiver has not yet been
- 19:10Speaker 2: finalized but is being discussed by the White House. This
- 19:16Speaker 2: following a clarification from the White House Press Secretary.
- 19:19Speaker 3: So same thing, different day.
- 19:22Speaker 2: So we're again this is why, like the initial reports
- 19:25Speaker 2: like you have to kind of watch and see how
- 19:26Speaker 2: they develop because they might not be the final reports.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and when we return, we've
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- 20:00Speaker 6: Markets selling off, with oil jumping higher again today, as
- 20:04Speaker 6: we are on day thirteen of the conflict in Iran.
- 20:08Speaker 6: Right now, the Dow is down one point four percent,
- 20:12Speaker 6: or six hundred and seventy two points lower, SMP five
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- 22:04Speaker 2: Mike, we got a piece in the Bloomberg. Yes, Americans
- 22:09Speaker 2: are saving enough for retirement. That's a different message than
- 22:13Speaker 2: we get pretty consistently. What is the thesis laid out
- 22:17Speaker 2: by this piece?
- 22:18Speaker 4: Yeah, I disagree with the title of the article. I
- 22:22Speaker 4: disagree with some of Allison's conclusions, and I agree with others.
- 22:26Speaker 4: Her overall conclusion, which I agree with, is that we
- 22:29Speaker 4: shouldn't dedicate more of our societal resources towards lowering tax
- 22:36Speaker 4: rates and providing other benefits to seniors because of their
- 22:43Speaker 4: bad shape they're in for retirement. I agree with that conclusion,
- 22:46Speaker 4: But her conclusion that Americans are saving enough for retirement
- 22:49Speaker 4: I think is heavily debatable. Here's her main point. In
- 22:53Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, Americans aged sixty and over had a
- 22:56Speaker 4: media net worth of nearly half a million dollars four
- 22:59Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. There's eighty seven thousand in
- 23:01Speaker 4: financial assets in inflation adjusted dollars. In nineteen eighty nine,
- 23:08Speaker 4: the same group had only two hundred and ten thousand
- 23:10Speaker 4: debt worth and forty five thousand in financial assets, And
- 23:14Speaker 4: so she points out accurately that, hey, you know, the
- 23:17Speaker 4: financial asset bucket has doubled. The point here that she
- 23:21Speaker 4: alludes to, but I think ignores is the value of
- 23:25Speaker 4: those pensions in nineteen eighty nine that very much existed.
- 23:29Speaker 4: She points out that, hey, we don't have pensions anymore,
- 23:31Speaker 4: but then does not account for the value of those pensions.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Because here's what you care about. When you're retired, is
- 23:37Speaker 4: how much can my assets provide me an income? Unless
- 23:40Speaker 4: your only focus is providing an inheritance, the real thing
- 23:42Speaker 4: that matters about your four oh one K is how
- 23:44Speaker 4: much of it can I actually live off of? So
- 23:47Speaker 4: here are the averages that I pulled using her own data.
- 23:51Speaker 4: So the average source security benefit for a couple in
- 23:55Speaker 4: twenty twenty two was two thousand, seven hundred and fifty
- 23:58Speaker 4: three dollars combined the financial assets eighty seven thousand dollars.
- 24:04Speaker 4: If you adhere to the four percent rule, you can
- 24:06Speaker 4: kick in an extra two hundred ninety dollars a month
- 24:09Speaker 4: into your budget from that four percent rule on the
- 24:11Speaker 4: eighty seven thousand dollars, giving you a household income of
- 24:15Speaker 4: about three thousand dollars, which, to her point, is above
- 24:18Speaker 4: the federal poverty level. The federal poverty level back in
- 24:21Speaker 4: twenty twenty two for a two person household was eighteen
- 24:23Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
- 24:25Speaker 3: Great, you're not in poverty, but.
- 24:27Speaker 4: Not much more. Right, Yes, you are not technically in poverty.
- 24:32Speaker 4: You're not paying any taxes, but I don't. I don't
- 24:36Speaker 4: think in most parts of the country, three thousand dollars
- 24:40Speaker 4: a month is enough to deem yourself ready to retire,
- 24:44Speaker 4: I guess would be my main compelling point. I know
- 24:47Speaker 4: some people can manage it, but it's not a lot
- 24:50Speaker 4: of money. And again, her point here seems to be that, hey,
- 24:54Speaker 4: the transition from pension to four oh one K was
- 24:57Speaker 4: a massive success, and don't you know, don't change it.
- 25:02Speaker 4: And I'm just not sure we can conclude that I'm
- 25:05Speaker 4: in the same boat. I'm just not sure that that
- 25:08Speaker 4: is the right conclusion to come to other points she makes,
- 25:11Speaker 4: like don't allow private equity into four oh one K plans. Yeah,
- 25:14Speaker 4: I think you got a compelling argument there, don't you know,
- 25:17Speaker 4: screw up what's already working fairly well by adding complex
- 25:20Speaker 4: products into it. Let's not push even bigger tax cuts
- 25:23Speaker 4: for seniors after we just did do a pretty big
- 25:27Speaker 4: tax cut for.
- 25:27Speaker 5: Seniors in twenty twenty five.
- 25:31Speaker 4: So I'm on board with those other conclusions, but I
- 25:36Speaker 4: would not take away that, hey, we as Americans are
- 25:39Speaker 4: so well prepared for retirement now compared to the eighties.
- 25:42Speaker 4: I think that is a highly qualified statement and something
- 25:48Speaker 4: that people really do need to pay attention to, right,
- 25:51Speaker 4: I mean, this date is four years old. Now, I'm
- 25:53Speaker 4: certain that retirees have more in financial assets today than
- 25:58Speaker 4: they did four years ago. Hopefully over one hundred thousand
- 26:00Speaker 4: would be my guess if we're just talking about inflation adjusting.
- 26:04Speaker 4: But that is especially in coastal parts of the nation,
- 26:12Speaker 4: incredibly difficult to live off of, incredibly difficult. There are questions,
- 26:17Speaker 4: There are a multitude of questions about how long money
- 26:20Speaker 4: like that can last. Obviously, anybody that has watched their
- 26:25Speaker 4: own family members age has questions about how that spending
- 26:30Speaker 4: pattern could change due to health reasons over time. I'm
- 26:33Speaker 4: not even talking about a nursing home here. I'm just
- 26:35Speaker 4: talking about the idea that, hey, I've got this great,
- 26:38Speaker 4: big house. Can I maintain it the same way I
- 26:40Speaker 4: could in my forties when I'm in my eighties. And
- 26:45Speaker 4: then you know looming questions of course about the security
- 26:49Speaker 4: of Social Security and whether or not, rather what the
- 26:53Speaker 4: solution will be to ensure that the program can continue
- 26:57Speaker 4: to exist, which is becoming increase in increasingly relevant day
- 27:01Speaker 4: to day. If you have your own questions about not
- 27:05Speaker 4: society's preparedness for retirement, but your preparedness for retirement and
- 27:10Speaker 4: how much you have saved, and whether or not it's
- 27:12Speaker 4: likely to be enough to cover your expenses.
- 27:16Speaker 3: You've got to do the work. You've got to work.
- 27:19Speaker 4: With somebody or do the work yourself to study it
- 27:21Speaker 4: and figure out how much you're likely to accumulate by
- 27:24Speaker 4: the time you retire, and whether or not it's enough.
- 27:26Speaker 4: If you need help with that, call the folks at
- 27:28Speaker 4: Armstrong Advisory Group. We work with our clients every day
- 27:31Speaker 4: to assess this question. Ideally well ahead of when you retire,
- 27:36Speaker 4: but regardless of whether or not you're there ten years
- 27:39Speaker 4: ahead of time, we're already there and trying to make
- 27:41Speaker 4: sure you're in a good position We can help. The
- 27:43Speaker 4: number again is eight hundred three nine three four zero
- 27:46Speaker 4: zero one.
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- 28:04Speaker 2: Let's see talking about social security and retirement. One thing
- 28:07Speaker 2: to pay attention to as a result of where energy
- 28:11Speaker 2: and commodity prices in general inflation may go over the
- 28:13Speaker 2: next six months is hey what's the potential impact that
- 28:18Speaker 2: this has on the cost of living adjustment for twenty
- 28:21Speaker 2: twenty seven based on the inflation data from February, which
- 28:27Speaker 2: obviously predates this. The Social Security cost of living adjustment,
- 28:32Speaker 2: according to Mary Johnson, who's a Social Security and Medicare analyst,
- 28:36Speaker 2: thought that the COLA for this year for next year
- 28:39Speaker 2: rather might be one point seven percent. The Senior Citizens
- 28:43Speaker 2: League thought that it might be in the two point
- 28:45Speaker 2: eight percent range. So those are kind of a big
- 28:48Speaker 2: range one point seven to two point eight. But ultimately
- 28:52Speaker 2: it's hard for me to see a world in which
- 28:54Speaker 2: what's going on in the Middle East results in the
- 28:57Speaker 2: cost of living adjustment moving lower than either of those
- 29:00Speaker 2: numbers for twenty twenty seven.
- 29:02Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see, obviously how long this all lasts, but
- 29:06Speaker 4: it does feed right into the calculation there, so we'll.
- 29:10Speaker 2: See how that develops on this front. Just take a
- 29:13Speaker 2: quick break. When we come back, we'll do a little
- 29:14Speaker 2: bit of stack.
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- 29:42Speaker 3: Mike, what do we got for stack roulettes? We got Costco.
- 29:45Speaker 4: We were talking a little bit about tariffs and the
- 29:48Speaker 4: federal government saying it's going to take over four million
- 29:50Speaker 4: hours to calculate all the tariff refunds.
- 29:53Speaker 5: In the meantime, I think we need to make it a.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Little bit more difficult for people to sue each other
- 29:58Speaker 4: and companies and everybody else. I know that maybe sounds
- 30:02Speaker 4: on American because we love suing each other.
- 30:05Speaker 5: But Costco is being sued saying I.
- 30:08Speaker 4: Know Costco is being sued by customer over their tariff refunds.
- 30:12Speaker 4: So Costco raised prices on a whole bunch of items,
- 30:15Speaker 4: just like many other companies. They have not yet received
- 30:19Speaker 4: any terriff reimbursements so far as I know, and yet
- 30:22Speaker 4: customers at least one customer is filing a lawsuit against
- 30:26Speaker 4: Costco demanding a reimbursement of the increase prices he paid
- 30:30Speaker 4: on goods from Costco.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Which I don't see the problem with it, to be honest.
- 30:36Speaker 4: With the lawsuit, Yeah, why why would Costco not have
- 30:40Speaker 4: every right in the world to raise prices, regardless of
- 30:43Speaker 4: the reason they want to.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Why would anyone be entitled to a re if the
- 30:46Speaker 2: reason they raised the price was illegal.
- 30:49Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no.
- 30:50Speaker 4: The reason they raised the price is because they wanted
- 30:52Speaker 4: to maintain their margins, regardless of the you know, underlying
- 30:56Speaker 4: cause for it. Right, Like if a company raises their
- 31:01Speaker 4: prices because they think oil prices are going to go
- 31:04Speaker 4: up and then they don't, Am I entitled to a
- 31:07Speaker 4: refund because of that?
- 31:09Speaker 3: No, because there was nothing illegal that happened.
- 31:11Speaker 4: Was there any contract that Costco had with their customer
- 31:13Speaker 4: to say, hey, we're raising this just because of terrorists
- 31:16Speaker 4: and we'll let you know if we get the tariff
- 31:18Speaker 4: money back.
- 31:18Speaker 5: Like, no, none of this makes any sense to me.
- 31:21Speaker 2: So if you want to make a case that it's
- 31:24Speaker 2: going to be really hard for the plaintiff to prove
- 31:26Speaker 2: like the exact level of damages with you. But in general,
- 31:32Speaker 2: when something like, let's think of it from this perspective,
- 31:37Speaker 2: let's say that let's look at Bernie made Off as
- 31:41Speaker 2: an example. Sure, okay, there are risks associated with investing.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Obviously.
- 31:48Speaker 2: One of the ones that is not covered by any
- 31:50Speaker 2: kind of you know, insurance is if your broker turns
- 31:54Speaker 2: out to be you know, fraudulently, you know, running a
- 31:56Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme. And so what ended up happening after the
- 32:00Speaker 2: whole made off thing is a bunch of investors got
- 32:02Speaker 2: together like, hey, we are going to sue for you know,
- 32:05Speaker 2: the return of our capital because this happened due to fraud.
- 32:10Speaker 2: And you ended up with the bankruptcy trustee. You came
- 32:12Speaker 2: through and was like, yeplake, this is what happens. Your
- 32:14Speaker 2: money's returned. Now it's a different case obviously, because well
- 32:19Speaker 2: again it's it's one form of illegality versus another. And
- 32:24Speaker 2: so if price is moved up because of something fraudulent, Okay,
- 32:29Speaker 2: let's look at another example just that you could see hypothetically.
- 32:33Speaker 3: Let's say that I were trying.
- 32:38Speaker 2: To buy a concert ticket and there happens to be
- 32:41Speaker 2: a monopoly on you know, who runs the concert business.
- 32:47Speaker 2: And it's later you know, deemed that hey, like X happened,
- 32:51Speaker 2: and so you know, this is you know, the problem
- 32:54Speaker 2: with this because it was you know, legally concentrated and
- 32:57Speaker 2: so on and so forth in theory, and we've seen
- 33:00Speaker 2: this in other industries. You say, okay, like, how do
- 33:03Speaker 2: I you know, pay damages out to the plaintiffs in
- 33:06Speaker 2: this case, By the way, the money is going to
- 33:08Speaker 2: be refunded to Costco and those other companies, So it's
- 33:12Speaker 2: not like we're talking about there's no money going back.
- 33:14Speaker 2: It's just, hey, Costco raised prices because of the tariffs
- 33:18Speaker 2: that were then deemed to be illegal. The money has
- 33:20Speaker 2: been returned to them. Why would the plaintiffs not say
- 33:24Speaker 2: I want some of that too. I don't think there's
- 33:26Speaker 2: anything wrong with that.
- 33:27Speaker 3: Now.
- 33:28Speaker 2: Are they gonna have a tough time being able to
- 33:29Speaker 2: prove the specifics of the damages to the point where
- 33:33Speaker 2: I think they might not get anything absolutely because they
- 33:37Speaker 2: like they don't have any of the invoices or anything
- 33:40Speaker 2: like that. I'm sure they'll be able to request them
- 33:42Speaker 2: in discovery, but like there's a pretty pretty clear trail
- 33:46Speaker 2: that's going to be out there. Then saying hey, I
- 33:49Speaker 2: bought this trellis at Costco for fifteen dollars. The invoice
- 33:56Speaker 2: that Costco paid at the border said there was a
- 33:59Speaker 2: ninety sent tariff, Give me my ninety cents.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That seems pretty.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Why if if the tariff wasn't if there's a cost
- 34:09Speaker 2: that was imposed illegally by a vendor, like if the
- 34:14Speaker 2: federal government has to refund it to the vendor.
- 34:16Speaker 3: I think that, can't you say? I think.
- 34:19Speaker 4: I never got in a line item invoice that indicated
- 34:22Speaker 4: that I'm paying a higher price because of a tariff.
- 34:24Speaker 4: I might have the Costco did, right, but you know
- 34:28Speaker 4: what point of me, being Costco's customer, has anywhere written
- 34:32Speaker 4: that I am entitled to a portion of this price
- 34:34Speaker 4: if it goes back to Costco. It seems very far
- 34:36Speaker 4: fetched to me. I don't I don't really understand the Uh, well.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing something, but contract it was the prices
- 34:44Speaker 2: were raised based on an illegal action.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Right, but not by Costco.
- 34:50Speaker 4: So I the prices were raised by Costco, the illegal
- 34:53Speaker 4: action wasn't conducted by Costco.
- 34:56Speaker 3: I'm not sure it matters. Like again, the money's being
- 34:58Speaker 3: refunded to Costco.
- 35:00Speaker 4: Yeah, this all seems crazy to me, ludicrous. I don't
- 35:03Speaker 4: really Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm way off base,
- 35:07Speaker 4: but seems absolutely preposterous to me.
- 35:09Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's plenty of lawsuits that I think
- 35:11Speaker 2: are dumb, Like you know, the guy who's suing over
- 35:13Speaker 2: the tuna that's not tuna.
- 35:15Speaker 5: Or the McDonald's coffee that's too hot.
- 35:18Speaker 2: You know, like okay, like, how were you harmed by
- 35:20Speaker 2: your tuna not being actual tuna?
- 35:22Speaker 3: Yeah? What's what's the big deal there in this case?
- 35:25Speaker 2: Again, I'm not saying that like ninety cents is a
- 35:29Speaker 2: good reason to sue, and and lawyer's fees will probably
- 35:31Speaker 2: eat up any returns that happen even if they're victorious.
- 35:35Speaker 2: But I understand the basic principle of it.
- 35:37Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I'm not there.
- 35:40Speaker 5: Fair.
- 35:41Speaker 2: Uh, let's see, what do I want to talk about?
- 35:48Speaker 3: Oh?
- 35:48Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one that's definitely gonna show up later
- 35:50Speaker 2: this year. Why the AI boom will make phones, cars,
- 35:53Speaker 2: and electronics more expensive. Already have very shortage and probably
- 35:57Speaker 2: and the cost of memory chips has gone up like
- 36:01Speaker 2: anywhere from fifty to three hundred percent, depending on the specific.
- 36:04Speaker 3: Type that you're looking at.
- 36:06Speaker 2: And so what it means, uh is yeah, in some case,
- 36:10Speaker 2: actually spot prices are up seven hundred percent, but the
- 36:12Speaker 2: vast majority are you know, close to like three. What
- 36:15Speaker 2: you're going to see again, this is not going to
- 36:17Speaker 2: be like the only cost associated with buying a new smartphone.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Expect one of two things, either bad availability for devices
- 36:28Speaker 2: needing memory next year, which is like basically any electronic
- 36:31Speaker 2: device at this point or expect to see prices moving
- 36:34Speaker 2: up in a material fashion five ten percent something like
- 36:37Speaker 2: that because of the cost of memory moving up as
- 36:40Speaker 2: a component. We already covered that a couple of weeks ago.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Costco was removing memory chips from their display computers to
- 36:47Speaker 2: prevent people from stealing them, and so things are a
- 36:50Speaker 2: little bit gnarly in memory land. Yeah, so this is
- 36:52Speaker 2: going to be a thing.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really kind of impossible for me to imagine
- 36:57Speaker 4: a scenario where electronics can not go up in price.
- 37:00Speaker 4: There's no replacement to what has been bid up, and
- 37:03Speaker 4: there's no slowdown that's likely to occur in the near
- 37:06Speaker 4: future of demand for this stuff from AI, so they
- 37:09Speaker 4: can afford to pay more than you and I, and
- 37:11Speaker 4: prices are going to go out for all of us.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Heading towards the bottom of the hour, stocks remain negative.
- 37:15Speaker 2: The Dow is off one and a quarter percent, the
- 37:18Speaker 2: S and P's off one NASDAC off about one point
- 37:21Speaker 2: four percent, so all major US indices are in the
- 37:24Speaker 2: red at the moment. Treasury is also continuing to sell
- 37:29Speaker 2: off right now. Tenure Treasury up three point seven basis
- 37:32Speaker 2: points to four point two four five percent, So again
- 37:37Speaker 2: just kind of basically most things selling off, aside from
- 37:41Speaker 2: oil and some other commodities that are seeing some bids today,
- 37:45Speaker 2: but kind of a tough day out there to this point.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Though.
- 37:47Speaker 2: The other thing that I'll say is, look, this is
- 37:50Speaker 2: a market that has continued to just kind of wobble
- 37:52Speaker 2: but not really break in either direction recently. We're right
- 37:56Speaker 2: now kind of near the bottom end of the range
- 37:58Speaker 2: that we've been in for the last five six months,
- 38:02Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean that you necessarily break lower. So
- 38:05Speaker 2: we'll see where things go in the coming days and weeks,
- 38:09Speaker 2: because none of us know when we're all minute to
- 38:11Speaker 2: minute on this. Right now, things are moving quickly. Let's
- 38:14Speaker 2: take a quick break for the next twenty four hours,
- 38:17Speaker 2: but we're gonna finish things tomorrow. We'll finish the week tomorrow,
- 38:21Speaker 2: and then we'll be back on Monday after that. But
- 38:23Speaker 2: we'll see it tomorrow for now, on the Financial Exchange