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- 0:03Today has been a bit of a shocking day in the world of
- 0:08crime. I actually, I was actually
- 0:13pretty sad today. I mean, I, I try to be
- 0:16empathetic and sympathetic as much as I can for everybody.
- 0:19And each case does affect, it does affect me for sure.
- 0:25But this one, this one cut pretty hard.
- 0:27And not because I knew the victims, it was because I knew
- 0:31their work. And I have so many, so many
- 0:37experiences from my life that are tied to the work of Rob
- 0:45Reiner that I just, it just, it just cuts deep.
- 0:51So stick with me as we get into the murder of Rob Reiner and
- 0:57Michelle Singer. This video contains mature
- 1:12themes and discussions intended only for adult audiences.
- 1:16Viewer discretion is advised. Hello there my friend, Welcome
- 1:22back for the second live stream of the day here on my channel.
- 1:25My name is Gavin Fish. Thank you for coming here to
- 1:29converse and talk about and discuss and dig into the latest
- 1:36developments in the in this case, the the murder of 78 year
- 1:41old Rob Reiner and 68 year old Michelle Singer, The couple who
- 1:48met. I don't know if you guys heard
- 1:51this anecdote but you know the the movie When Harry Met Sally
- 1:56that that was written by Nora Ephron directed by Nora Ephron
- 2:00was inspired by Rob Reiner after his divorce with Penny Marshall.
- 2:04As I understand it, getting back into the into the dating game
- 2:09and understanding or, or trying to understand, is it possible
- 2:14for men and women to truly be friends without sex and romance?
- 2:22I I guess that's the theme of When Harry Met Sally and Mr.
- 2:27Reiner met Miss Singer while working on that movie and
- 2:32completely changed the ending because he became less cynical
- 2:36when he found love again. It's a it's, it's a sweet story
- 2:41and it makes it that sweetness makes it all the more bitter
- 2:45today. Now that we know that the
- 2:50Reiners, singer Reiners have been murdered, have been
- 2:55murdered in their Brentwood home and it appears that it was done
- 3:01at the hand of their son Nick, who himself was the subject of a
- 3:09movie. I think it was a documentary.
- 3:11I never saw it produced by his dad, His dad's Castle Rock
- 3:17Productions studio or I don't know if you call it a studio,
- 3:20whatever his production company. Anyway, Nick has been arrested
- 3:27and charged. Well, excuse me, that came out
- 3:33of nowhere. Oh, sneezy poo there.
- 3:38And this is a reportedly A troubled young man who has dealt
- 3:46with issues mostly surrounding his drug addiction and drug use.
- 3:56So, so sad. Why don't we start with a little
- 3:59map time, shall we? Let's let's come over here and
- 4:06I'm going to excuse me for just one moment.
- 4:21Sorry about that, guys. I was a little had another
- 4:24tickle in my nose I needed to get rid of.
- 4:26But this is Brentwood. Brentwood is a rather ritzy,
- 4:31rather swanky area of Los Angeles to the West of downtown
- 4:35LA. As we kind of scroll out, Los
- 4:39Angeles is over here on the right.
- 4:41Brentwood tucks up against. I think that we would call that
- 4:46the Hollywood Hills, I guess, right?
- 4:48Yeah, I, I don't know what that entire mountain range is
- 4:52actually called, but tucked up against the Hollywood Hills, I'm
- 4:56going to go with that. OK.
- 4:59It's a rather, rather swanky area, Brentwood and this home, I
- 5:07looked it up on Zillow. This is this is their home on S
- 5:11Chadbourne Ave. was owned by Norman Lear.
- 5:19Mr. Reiner bought it from Norman Lear.
- 5:22Norman Lear, of course, the television legend that created
- 5:29all in the family and so many others, so many others.
- 5:35It's about a 10,000 square foot house.
- 5:38It has staff housing it. It's on about a six 10th of an
- 5:43acre lot. It's about a $13 million place,
- 5:47so not a not a slouch of a house at all.
- 5:52But this is our scene. This is the scene of our crime.
- 5:55And maybe if we look at it just like this, you can kind of see
- 6:01how things are are laid out there.
- 6:05We understand the house across the street also belonged to the
- 6:09Rhiners as well. But yeah, so kind of Brentwood's
- 6:16kind of next to Beverly Hills and kind of everything's so
- 6:25weird in LA It's just it's a place that I really not.
- 6:30Oh, and for those of you who are outside of the states, this is
- 6:34the southernmost part of Southern California, not the
- 6:36southernmost. San Diego is really the
- 6:38southernmost, but all the way down there at the tip of
- 6:41California before you make it down to the Mexican border.
- 6:46So that is where we are. That is our little map Timey
- 6:50poo. I, I could not find any photos
- 6:52of the house where you can see the house.
- 6:54Don't don't know that it really matters.
- 6:57OK, let's start off with a little bit of reading and then
- 7:01we're going to go into some video.
- 7:04Join me, if you will, over here on Acrobat.
- 7:10This from Rolling Stone, this from today.
- 7:12And this will be a little, a little out of order.
- 7:18I try to stay, I, I try to stay in chronological order.
- 7:22But in this case, it's just really hard because things are
- 7:25happening so quickly. But Rolling Stone reports Rob
- 7:29Reiner took son Nick to a holiday party day before the
- 7:32alleged murder. This is the famous Conan O'Brien
- 7:34party. Nick Reiner exhibited antisocial
- 7:38behavior while at Conan O'Brien's holiday party on
- 7:41Saturday the 13th, just one day before he allegedly killed his
- 7:44parents, Rob Reiner and Michelle Singer, sources tell Rolling
- 7:48Stone. According to the sources, the
- 7:50Reiners asked if they could bring Nick to the party out of
- 7:52concern for him and to keep an eye on him.
- 7:55At the party, the sources added, Nick exhibited antisocial
- 7:59behavior, such as staring at people.
- 8:02TMZ was the first to report that Nick attended the party, with
- 8:06their sources claiming that Nick and Reiner got into a very loud
- 8:09argument. The outlet further reported that
- 8:11in recent months, Reiner and Singer were struggling with how
- 8:15to deal with Nick as he continued to battle mental
- 8:17health issues and alleged substance abuse.
- 8:20This and this is, gosh, you know, parenting is freaking
- 8:25hard, right? And as your children grow, I
- 8:29mean, these people are in their 60s and 70s and they're still
- 8:33parenting. And that, I mean, my parents are
- 8:36in their 70s, they're still parenting me, right?
- 8:39And the older we get, the more complex it gets.
- 8:41And when we add into the mix mental health issues, we add
- 8:45into the mix substance abuse, man, that's really tough.
- 8:49It's really, really hard. A representative for the Reiner
- 8:53family did not immediately return a request for comment,
- 8:56nor did a Rep for Mr. O'Brien. Reiner and Singer were found
- 9:00dead at their Los Angeles home Sunday afternoon.
- 9:03The 14th. Nick, 32, was arrested at 9:15
- 9:07local time after a Los Angeles Police Department investigators
- 9:11determined that the Reiners were the victims of a homicide and
- 9:14that Nick was, quote, responsible for their deaths.
- 9:17Nick was booked on suspicion of felony murder and remains in
- 9:21custody with no bail. This is Nick again, as the, and
- 9:27this by the way, was written earlier today.
- 9:29I don't know if the no bail thing is still a thing.
- 9:31We're going to, we're going to take a look as the police
- 9:33present their case to the LA District, county's district.
- 9:37Oh my goodness, Los Angeles County district attorney's
- 9:39office. Nick had a complicated
- 9:41relationship with his parents and had long battle drug
- 9:44addiction. He first went to rehab at age 15
- 9:48and spent much of his teenage years rotating in and out of
- 9:51facilities. Several years after getting
- 9:52clean at the age of 19, he Co wrote the semi autobiographical
- 9:57film Being Charlie, largely about the relationship between a
- 10:00troubled son and a famous father, which Reiner directed.
- 10:06One of Nick's last known public appearances was in September at
- 10:09the Los Angeles premiere of Spinal Tap To the End Continues,
- 10:13which I've not seen. I'm happy that he made it, and I
- 10:18love Spinal Tap, but I've held off.
- 10:23Nick was photographed on the red carpet alongside his parents, as
- 10:26well as his siblings. Here are just a couple photos of
- 10:34the Reiners, by the way. Just, they're just cute little
- 10:38old people. Adorable, adorable.
- 10:44And then, yeah, Castle Rock is pretty a pretty big powerhouse
- 10:50in Hollywood, thanks to Rob Reiner.
- 10:51That guy is that was just amazing.
- 10:57This next one from the LA Times. Rob Reiner's son arrested on
- 11:02suspicion of homicide after director and his wife were found
- 11:05dead Rob Reiner's son Nick was arrested on suspicion of
- 11:08murdering his parents after the Hollywood legend and his wife,
- 11:10Michelle Singer Reiner, were found dead at their Brentwood
- 11:13home on Sunday. Los Angeles Police Chief Jim
- 11:16McDonnell, we're going to watch. His brief statement, said that
- 11:18officers responded to the home about 3:40 PM.
- 11:21Detectives from the Elite Robbery Homicide Division worked
- 11:25throughout the night and took Nick Reiner, 32, into custody.
- 11:28Our hearts go out to the family and friends of the Reiner, as
- 11:30McDonald's said during a news conference on Monday.
- 11:32A tragic incident. He said.
- 11:34Authorities have issued a search warrant for the Reiner home,
- 11:37McDonnell said, calling it a critical piece of our
- 11:40investigation. The director was 78, his wife
- 11:42was 70. I've heard 68, but LA Times is
- 11:47saying 70. Family friends told the Times
- 11:50that Rob and Nick Reiner got into an argument Saturday
- 11:52evening at the party at Conan O'Brien's home and that people
- 11:55noticed Nick acting strangely at the party.
- 11:58Nick Reiner, who had struggled with addiction for years, was
- 12:00living in a guest house on his parents property, family friends
- 12:03told the Times. Again, going over to the website
- 12:11and it's easier to see like this is the main house looks like,
- 12:17but there are, it looks like 3 separate outbuildings.
- 12:23If we look at it like this, it shows maybe 2 separate
- 12:27outbuildings. So maybe in, in one of those.
- 12:38His mother had become increasingly concerned about his
- 12:40mental health in recent weeks, according to family friends.
- 12:44The family friends, who did not want to be identified because of
- 12:46the nature of the crime, said that the Reiner's daughter found
- 12:49the parents Sunday afternoon. Law enforcement sources told the
- 12:52Times there's no sign of forced entry into the home on the 200
- 12:55block of Chadbourne Ave. The source also said the
- 12:58Reiner's had injuries consistent with being stabbed.
- 13:02I think TMZ reported a cutting of throats, but who knows.
- 13:09Who knows at this point. Nick Reiner was taken into
- 13:12custody at 9:15 PM. Sunday and booked at 5 O 4:00 AM
- 13:17Monday. Jail records show He's being
- 13:19held on a $4 million bail. So and I couldn't find those
- 13:21jail records, but maybe now that he's charged with murder,
- 13:27there's no bail. I don't know.
- 13:29In interviews, Nick Reiner is described as has described
- 13:33cycling in and out of rehab centers and experienced bounce
- 13:36of homelessness as a teenager. By 2015, he had gotten clean.
- 13:44Yeah. And I'm not going to go through
- 13:49all of the stuff that Rob Reiner and Nick Reiner did because we
- 13:53all know it and we can talk about it a little bit.
- 13:55Put your comments in the live chat, GF.
- 13:57Put GF in your comments. And I mean, just make sure that
- 14:03we are. Yeah, I've got got lots of
- 14:08comments going on. Good.
- 14:11And then the last thing that I wanted to read for you was an
- 14:14actual release from the LAPD and then we'll get into some video.
- 14:21I'll go over your comments a little bit here too.
- 14:24I'm feeling really down on this guys, just feeling really down.
- 14:29Detectives announced arrest in the murder of Robert Michelle
- 14:32Reiner Los Angeles. The Los Angeles detective, or
- 14:36I'm sorry, it's written weirdly. Detectives from the Los Angeles
- 14:39police department's robbery homicide division announced the
- 14:42arrest of nick Reiner following the murder of Robert and
- 14:46Michelle Reiner on December 14th, 2025 around 3:40 PM.
- 14:52Los Angeles Police Department officers assigned to West Los
- 14:55Angeles Division responded to a call of a death investigation in
- 15:00the 200 block of S Chadbourne Ave.
- 15:03Once inside the residence, officers discovered 2 victims
- 15:06who were subsequently identified as Robert and Michelle Reiner,
- 15:10Robbery Homicide Division. Homicide Special Section
- 15:13responded to the residence and initiated an investigation
- 15:17regarding the circumstances of their deaths.
- 15:20As a result of the initial investigation, it was determined
- 15:23that the Reiners were the victims of homicide.
- 15:33The investigation further revealed that Nick Reiner, the
- 15:3632 year old son of Robert and Michelle Reiner, was responsible
- 15:38for their deaths. Nick Reiner was located and
- 15:41arrested approximately 915 PMI understand he was on the campus
- 15:45or near the campus of the University of Southern
- 15:47California. He was booked for murder and
- 15:50remains in custody with no bail according to the LAPD under
- 15:53booking number 714-4668. On Tuesday, December 16th, the
- 15:59case will be presented to the LA County District Attorney's
- 16:02Office for filing consideration. Anyone with con information
- 16:06about this investigation can contact 1877 LAPD 24/7.
- 16:12That's 877-527-3247. Anyone wishing to remain
- 16:16anonymous should call the LA Regional Crime Stoppers AT80222
- 16:20Tips or go directly to lacrime-stoppers.org.
- 16:24Lastly, tipsters can may also download the P3 Tips mobile app
- 16:28and select the LA Regional Crime Stalkers as their local program.
- 16:36All right, let's see what you guys are talking about.
- 16:38Before we go into our video here, just a couple things.
- 16:44Susie Payne is joining us from Devon, UK.
- 16:48So glad you're here. I always ask where you're from.
- 16:50I just got into this and kind of like down mode, melancholy mode,
- 16:54and I forgot to ask you. So thank you for saying that.
- 16:57Susie. You know what?
- 16:58What's happening? You know what's up?
- 17:01Julie Martino. Hey, Gavin and Fishies.
- 17:03This is so very sad. Yeah, it really is content.
- 17:07Angel says thanks for doing 2 hours tonight.
- 17:09Well, I'm happy, happy to do it, though I'm not really happy
- 17:13about the circumstances under which we are doing.
- 17:18Just Ducky. That's pretty funny.
- 17:19Hey everyone, missed you over those 8 minutes between our last
- 17:22video and this one. That's funny.
- 17:29Yeah. Brentwood, not Redwood, is the
- 17:31home of UCLA. It's kind of on the edge of it,
- 17:35right? Is it in Brentwood though?
- 17:38I don't think so. I think it's it's close.
- 17:48Man, it's been so long. Maybe you're probably right.
- 17:55Yeah. Pam Tucker, so many heartbroken.
- 17:57I grew up watching All in the Family and still love reruns.
- 18:02Yeah, that's pretty tough. Parenting is a forever job.
- 18:06This is so heartbreaking. Crime, addiction.
- 18:10Welcome to Fanatic. Thank you very much for joining.
- 18:13Appreciate you doing that. Jenny says I cannot imagine
- 18:18seeing my child come at me like what they went through.
- 18:20Yeah oh so so tough Oh I clicked the wrong one pill 9371 also a
- 18:32new member. Thank you very much content
- 18:34Angel says I just found his inmate data.
- 18:36Thank you actually shoot that my way, will you or put a link in
- 18:40the in the description and it says no bail.
- 18:43Good. Seattle, WA in the house autumn
- 18:4920 months is a fanatic. Thank you very much.
- 18:52So yeah, send me that. Actually I can probably look it
- 18:57up based on that booking number. Let me let me see if I can find
- 19:02it here real quick guys. LA County booking number search.
- 19:20Let's see. It doesn't ask me for.
- 19:28Yeah, there it is. Booking number.
- 19:30I'm not a robot. Continue.
- 19:34So we come over here all right so date of birth 9/14/1993, just
- 19:44a couple months after I graduated high school.
- 19:47I'm an old guy, white male, charged with a felony height 6
- 19:56foot 3, weight 230. Arrested at 9:15 PM on the 14th.
- 20:02He was booked at 5 O 4:00 AM on the 15th.
- 20:09The agency that arrested him was LAPD gang activity and the
- 20:14booking location was at the jail.
- 20:17No bail. So we've thank you very much
- 20:21content Angel for for pointing me in this direction.
- 20:26He is at the Twin Towers Correctional Facility.
- 20:29Let's look up where that is. All right.
- 20:41And then so that's like downtown LA.
- 20:48Let's get directions. I think his house is 255 S
- 20:52Chadbourne Ave. Yeah.
- 21:02So due West to go. What is that?
- 21:12How far is it? It's 18 miles.
- 21:16Take you an hour and a half to do it.
- 21:19So yeah. Thank you.
- 21:21Thank you very much for that. Let's bring up our victims faces
- 21:23again here. See if anything else.
- 21:29Yeah. Ananya Mao says All in the
- 21:31family represented an honest breakthrough show about changes
- 21:34in society. And Rob Reiner really added the
- 21:36warmth to it. That was unique.
- 21:37Yeah. And Norman Lear, I mean, he when
- 21:40you think about Norman Lear shows, of course, The Jeffersons
- 21:44was a was a spinoff. The ones that I grew up were it
- 21:47would be like facts of life. What different strokes.
- 21:53I mean, Norman Lear, he was all about social change, right.
- 21:57And I think Rob Reiner fat fit into that very, very well.
- 22:03Joan Joanne Marie, why the gang unit?
- 22:05I think it's probably because of where he was.
- 22:08My understanding is he was near the USC campus now.
- 22:13Yeah, doesn't matter. I, I think, I think that's why.
- 22:19So, yeah, let's the kind of torn about watching this is about 10
- 22:30minutes long because we don't get very much information, but
- 22:35we might be able to glean something.
- 22:36So let's go ahead. And just, this was a, this was a
- 22:42press conference that that was set up in Brentwood the last
- 22:50night. OK, so here we go.
- 22:53Information regarding the investigation that is occurring
- 22:56here in Brentwood tonight, our detectives will be responding
- 23:01along with our Forensic Science Division and our Technical
- 23:05Investigation Division investigators to conduct a full
- 23:09crime scene investigation and determine the appropriateness of
- 23:13the investigation moving forward.
- 23:14This is obviously before. At this time, the Los Angeles
- 23:17Police Department is not asking anyone as a suspect or as a
- 23:20person of interest or in any other manner, and we will not be
- 23:23doing that until we conduct our investigation and we move
- 23:26forward. That's all I have right now at
- 23:30this early preliminary stage of this investigation.
- 23:33If you have questions that I can answer, I will answer them.
- 23:36I would just ask you, please, if we do not have the ability to
- 23:39answer the questions that you remain patient over the coming
- 23:41hours and over the coming days. Starting tomorrow morning, we
- 23:45will be responding and providing additional information as it
- 23:48becomes publicly available. Pete Family.
- 23:50Who actually made the call that brought fire department and
- 23:53police officers here? Has that person known and to
- 23:56release who it was? So we understand that the person
- 24:00reporting was here at the location.
- 24:03We're not going to release any information regarding the
- 24:05identity of that individual at this time.
- 24:08We know it was Nick Reiner. Hold on one at a time please,
- 24:10can you? Confirm that and is that.
- 24:17Family member There are going to be many family members
- 24:20interviewed. I'm not going to confirm whether
- 24:22someone's being interviewed at this time or not.
- 24:24We're going to try and speak to every family member that we can
- 24:27to get to the facts of this investigation.
- 24:29Why? Are you not looking for?
- 24:32A suspect. I'm sorry, why are you not?
- 24:34Exactly. Looking for a suspect?
- 24:36Are you confident you know who? Did this We have not identified
- 24:39A suspect at this time, but. Then shouldn't you be looking
- 24:41for one so these neighbors aren't worried about their own
- 24:43lives and their own safety? Yeah.
- 24:45So at this time, after we determine, so I need everyone to
- 24:48understand something in order to to comply with the legal process
- 24:53before we do anything here, we have to get a search warrant
- 24:55because there are issues regarding standing at this
- 24:57residence. So as long as those legal
- 25:01requirements are met, we can continue the investigation.
- 25:04Now when I tell you that we have not identified A suspect, it
- 25:07doesn't mean that we're not working the case.
- 25:10We will not identify a suspect until that person is identified
- 25:13as a suspect and we're legally seeking them if there is a crime
- 25:16to be reported and if that person is a suspect in that
- 25:20crime. Did that.
- 25:21Hold on, hold on, hold on. Did that answer your question,
- 25:23Sir? No.
- 25:25OK, go ahead. Has.
- 25:26Anyone been detained yet for questioning?
- 25:29Are you questioning people now that could be possible suspects
- 25:34and or a person or. Person.
- 25:35Specifically your first question, no one has been
- 25:37detained. Specifically your second
- 25:39question, no one is being interviewed as a suspect.
- 25:43Hold on. Wait a minute.
- 25:44Oh my goodness, I need to sneeze again.
- 25:47Hold on, hold on a second. I please excuse me.
- 26:00They booked him at 9:15. So when he said no one had been
- 26:07detained, detained, that was like probably 8 minutes before
- 26:13somebody was detained. Come on.
- 26:15We're not going to. Yeah.
- 26:16So we're not going to comment on the injuries at this time.
- 26:18That information will be coming forward in the coming days as
- 26:21it's publicly releasable. If it is part of the
- 26:23investigation and it is not publicly releasable, we will not
- 26:26be releasing it. Hold on, Hold on.
- 26:30Hold on. One at a time.
- 26:31Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up one at a time.
- 26:33This gentleman is next. Are your detectives inside the
- 26:36home right now? Are are they getting access to
- 26:39the home right now as we speak? We're waiting for the legal
- 26:42process to move forward. We have to obtain a search
- 26:44warrant for the residents. As soon as that is complied
- 26:46with, we will be conducting a full crime scene investigation
- 26:50of the interior and the exterior of the residence and the
- 26:52surrounding neighborhood just. A follow up, Deputy Chief, is
- 26:54there somebody from the family not allowing detectives inside
- 26:58the home right now? That that's inconsequential.
- 27:00We have to comply with the legal process.
- 27:02It doesn't matter whether the family allows us in or not.
- 27:05Hold on ma'am. Have the family who's been
- 27:13notified of what that an incident occurred here?
- 27:18I believe the family's aware in other.
- 27:20Words why you were not. Releasing their names that
- 27:22that's going to be the Los Angeles County coroner that
- 27:25releases the information. Ma'am, go ahead.
- 27:28Your your question first. At this time, it's a death
- 27:30investigation. Again, until we get inside and
- 27:33we make a determination, we can't call it anything.
- 27:35So we're going to conduct that invest.
- 27:36Hold on. We're going to conduct that
- 27:38investigation at the appropriate time.
- 27:40We will identify what kind of incident it is and if it's
- 27:43determined to be a crime, we will seek the suspect.
- 27:46I actually sympathize with this guy a little bit.
- 27:49I get a little bit because there are legal issues that they have
- 27:54to navigate and they don't want to hurt their investigation.
- 27:58But with something just so, I mean, with something involving
- 28:06somebody just so famous, it's going to be hard for the LAPD
- 28:11to, I mean, people will be able to say, hey, that's Rob Reiner's
- 28:14house. Come on.
- 28:16We will bring them to justice and we will take them into
- 28:18custody, Mayor. Has one more question the mayor
- 28:21has already? Confirmed it's the Reiner's.
- 28:24I, I can't speak for the mayor, but I can't speak for the Los
- 28:26Angeles Police Department. The Los Angeles County coroner
- 28:29will identify the decedents that are inside of the residence and
- 28:33that will be hold on. That will be the official
- 28:35notification and the official identification of the decedents
- 28:39inside of the residence. I'm not going to address that,
- 28:45ma'am. Sure.
- 28:50There's a, there's a legal process whenever you're going to
- 28:53conduct an investigation in a, at a crime scene in the state of
- 28:55California. You, you, there are certain
- 28:57requirements that you have to meet in order to conduct a
- 29:01thorough investigation. So you don't want to start a
- 29:03crime scene investigation and then have someone say I need you
- 29:07guys to leave the residence right now.
- 29:09So we're going to hold on. You asked a question I'm going
- 29:11to answer. So we have to comply with the
- 29:13legal process. Once the warrant is signed and
- 29:15delivered, we will have access to the crime scene.
- 29:17We will conduct a full, thorough, impartial
- 29:19investigation. We will conduct additional
- 29:23investigations in the neighborhood around this area
- 29:26and then with that information we will go forward with the
- 29:28investigation, whether it is a death investigation or some
- 29:31other type of investigation. And we and I do want to be
- 29:36clear, hold on, I want to be clear with one thing.
- 29:39Wherever we can be transparent and provide information to the
- 29:41public, we will release it as soon as we can, one at a time,
- 29:44do. We have.
- 29:46Any understanding about when the?
- 29:49Decisions may have. Passed.
- 29:53No, that's going to be determined by the coroner.
- 29:55The coroner's not here. It's been about 6.
- 29:57Hours since the first report. Why is it taking so long to
- 30:00gain? Access to start I don't
- 30:03understand. That is a dumb question.
- 30:05Six hours since. Police were first called.
- 30:08Yeah. So, OK, So just to be clear,
- 30:10just to be clear, there's an initial investigation.
- 30:12When the patrol officers arrive, when they make a determination
- 30:14that detectives are needed, they will back out.
- 30:17We will conduct a sweep of the area to make sure that it's
- 30:20safe, and then we will comply with the legal process and then
- 30:23we move forward. I'm not giving you the exact
- 30:25timeline on that, but I'm telling you that it's moving.
- 30:27Forward, I agree with you, Cassie.
- 30:28Question one. How soon do we anticipate
- 30:32getting a warrant to where you're able to search the entire
- 30:35property, interior and exterior? Second, do we have an ETA on the
- 30:39coroner's arrival and once they arrive and make an initial
- 30:42determination, will they be able to give you identification that
- 30:44you can then? Release we'll be obtaining the
- 30:47warrant in real time very shortly if we have not obtained
- 30:50it already in terms of the coroner's etai cannot tell you
- 30:54when their estimated time of arrival is, we're already hold
- 30:59on we're already in communication with the coroner's
- 31:01office as. Far as the content Angel, the
- 31:12yeah, I'm sure a lot. I'm sure there were a lot of Tik
- 31:16Tokers, you know, would be would be journalists, I guess there,
- 31:27but they also had the major networks, they had the AP they
- 31:29had, they had a lot of people there.
- 31:31I mean, and, and you can tell there are some good questions,
- 31:37right, some good reporter style questions.
- 31:42That's correct. We've only done preliminary.
- 31:44We've only done preliminary investigation at this point.
- 31:46Are. The bodies.
- 31:48Still there at the houses. OK, so nothing has occurred
- 31:51inside the house. The house is in the exact same
- 31:52state it was when the officers arrived.
- 31:54Just to be clear. I'm sorry.
- 32:00I can't hear you. Oh, are we safe in Brentwood?
- 32:04I'm sorry. Yeah.
- 32:05So we have. We have officers here at the
- 32:06scene. We have officers in the area.
- 32:09We're we're not looking for anyone in the Brentwood area at
- 32:12this point. We're not, we're not looking for
- 32:13anyone because we're still working on that part of the
- 32:15investigation. Hold on, hold on.
- 32:17Someone over here adding a question, say.
- 32:19About the fact that he's been reported to the.
- 32:23Son of the family. I don't understand.
- 32:26But reported by who? OK.
- 32:28I don't. I don't know people, People
- 32:30magazine or people in the. I don't know anything about
- 32:33that. Yeah, that that did not hold on.
- 32:35That did not come from the LAPD. Go ahead.
- 32:37Can. You give us a sense of how many
- 32:39witnesses, if any, you guys have been able to talk to other
- 32:42people you've been able to already touch base with, who'd
- 32:45be giving you useful information in terms of what unfolded inside
- 32:48that home. So we've already been talking to
- 32:51the neighbors, we've already been canvassing the neighborhood
- 32:53and speaking to residents that live around this area.
- 32:55So that's part of our investigation.
- 32:57In terms of someone that may have information regarding what
- 33:00happened inside the residence, we're not going to release that
- 33:02information. That'll be part of the
- 33:03investigation were there. Other Were there other family
- 33:06members? There's been no reports from the
- 33:07neighbors regarding hearing anything or seeing anything that
- 33:09we can release to the public. Were there other?
- 33:11Family members. Living interesting qualifier
- 33:13there at the end that we can release to the public.
- 33:15Timeline of this of this murder do we haven't established that
- 33:19yet. We will.
- 33:20We will. We will establish that soon and
- 33:22then that'll be part of the investigation.
- 33:24The part that is publicly releasable.
- 33:25We will release the cause of death will be released by the LA
- 33:28County coroner. Are you?
- 33:29Looking into them being. Stabbed.
- 33:31We're looking into getting the information from the LA County
- 33:33Coroner when it's available. He's tough.
- 33:38We didn't say, we didn't say anything about weapons either.
- 33:44OK. All right.
- 33:45Thanks, everybody. We'll release.
- 33:48So we're calling it a death investigation at this point.
- 33:51So just to be well, it's a homicide.
- 33:58Yeah. Oh, I so I'm sorry.
- 34:02I didn't. I didn't mean to be flippant.
- 34:03Let me be specific. There was recently a change
- 34:06within the department. Robbery Homicide Division
- 34:09handles all homicides now in the city of Los Angeles.
- 34:11So I apologize that I didn't know if you knew that or not.
- 34:14All homicides occurring in the city of Los Angeles are now
- 34:17handled by Robbery Homicide Division as of the end of
- 34:19October. So we handled them all.
- 34:22OK. All right.
- 34:23Thanks, everybody. The next update will be after
- 34:26tomorrow morning. Interesting little presser.
- 34:31I mean, and it is a lot of we're not going to release that.
- 34:34We can't say we're not going to say that didn't come from us, A
- 34:38lot of that. But I kind of sympathize with
- 34:41this guy. Like they're just things that
- 34:45you can't you can't let out, right?
- 34:48It jeopardizes the investigation though.
- 34:51I also sympathize with all of us who want more information.
- 34:55I think, I think that because of the nature of the case, they
- 34:59will be moving pretty quickly on this.
- 35:03Let's see what happened. Content, Angel.
- 35:05Yeah, You took the right words right out of my mouth.
- 35:08Yeah. That's Julie.
- 35:12Martino says he should have just not spoken.
- 35:14That made zero. That made.
- 35:16We're calling this a death investigation.
- 35:18Oh, we're here because it's a homicide, rubber homicide.
- 35:21We always do homicides. It's pretty funny the panic when
- 35:26the journalist asked about the sun.
- 35:28There's no keeping a lid on this case.
- 35:33Redondo Beach says it makes sense now why the search warrant
- 35:36hasn't been served by 9:30 at night.
- 35:39The daughter went with the mom in the ambulance and Michelle
- 35:42passed away on the way to the hospital.
- 35:44I hadn't read that yet. Man who?
- 35:52The area is safe, but we're not looking for a suspect.
- 35:54Yeah, what that means is they have a suspect.
- 35:57They don't have an official suspect.
- 35:58We can't tell you who the suspect is because we don't have
- 36:00a suspect, but we know who did this.
- 36:04Very, very interesting. OK, the next little piece of
- 36:08video that I want to show you is only about a minute and 44
- 36:12seconds long. This from this morning, let me
- 36:16bring it up here for you guys. Look at this is the chief of the
- 36:20LAPD. Thank you.
- 36:21Thank you, Captain. And by the way, I'm very sorry
- 36:24about the different levels of things.
- 36:26This this one is pretty loud. And as as he said, the
- 36:30information at this stage is still limited, but I'll share
- 36:33what we can. First of all, our hearts go out
- 36:35to the family and friends of the Rhiners.
- 36:38Tragic incident yesterday at 12 December 14th, about 3:40 in the
- 36:45afternoon, LAPD responded to a residence the residents of Rob
- 36:52and Michelle Reiner located in West Los Angeles Division.
- 36:55At that location they found two deceased adults, a male and a
- 36:59female. Through the night, working with
- 37:01the coroner's office, they were able to identify them
- 37:05definitively as Rob and Michelle Reiner.
- 37:08We have our robbery Homicide Division handling the
- 37:11investigation. That doesn't sound like she was
- 37:13taken by hospital. It sounds like she was deceased.
- 37:17So there there is some conflicting information coming
- 37:20out which will happen. We will get to the bottom of
- 37:24this overtime. And they work throughout the
- 37:27night on this case, and we're able to take into custody Nick,
- 37:34Nick Reiner, a suspect in this case.
- 37:37He was subsequently booked for murder and is being held on $4
- 37:41million bail. Pretty much that's what I can
- 37:44share at this point. But again, of every very tragic
- 37:47incident. So that's where the $4 million
- 37:49came from. But we looked at the, we looked
- 37:53at the inmate locator and says no bail.
- 37:56Can you talk about I? Know you?
- 38:00Talked about the search warrant. Yeah.
- 38:08You know, we, we use search warrants to be able to further
- 38:11our investigation as you know on on all of these cases.
- 38:15I wouldn't be in a position to talk specifically about what the
- 38:18object of the search warrant was, but it's a critical piece
- 38:22of our investigations to be able to ensure down the road of
- 38:25prosecution. Thank you all very much.
- 38:29I was short and sweet, short and sweet.
- 38:34So yeah, I the thing about LA is that because of California law,
- 38:41unlike other places, we're not, we're probably not going to get
- 38:45very much information, including like the search warrant
- 38:48application. We probably won't get that.
- 38:51California is just a very difficult state when it comes to
- 38:55transparency. And so I I would love to know
- 39:00what that search warrant said. I would love to know what the
- 39:04probable cause affidavit against Nick Reiner says, but we
- 39:08probably won't be able to get that, Mooney says.
- 39:13I kind of feel bad for the guy at the presser.
- 39:14It's a high profile case involving very famous people.
- 39:17No one wants to misspeak and screw this up.
- 39:20Yep, Ronaldo Beach says You can take the girl out of The
- 39:23Newsroom, but you can't take The Newsroom out of the girl.
- 39:25That's funny. Let's see.
- 39:31Yeah, I'm reading. Yeah, the LAPD said they were
- 39:36they were DOA. So anyway, I don't know, guys.
- 39:42I don't know about this case. This is 1 where we're going to.
- 39:45We're going to get a lot of TMZ investigation.
- 39:48We're going to get a lot of local news investigation, and
- 39:50we'll keep on it. We'll keep on the case.
- 39:54Before we go though, before we go, let's just real quick.
- 40:00Check a headline or two, shall we?
- 40:02I think it's one true. Crime headlines.
- 40:10Pow. OK.
- 40:14In our last live stream, somebody asked me if I'd found
- 40:18out about the update on Jean Benign Ramsey.
- 40:22I did find this. Search for Jean Benign Ramsey
- 40:25Killer still active. New evidence gathered Nearly 3
- 40:28decades after Jean Benet Ramsey's mysterious killing,
- 40:31Colorado police said her cold case is still a top priority.
- 40:35In an annual update, the Boulder Police Department urged anyone
- 40:37with information to come forward about the killing of the six
- 40:40year old child beauty queen in her childhood home in 1996.
- 40:44Ramsey's killing has captivated international audience for
- 40:47decades. You know what just occurred to
- 40:49me? Why I never got into the Ramsey
- 40:52case. I I did not live in the country
- 40:54in 1996. I wasn't here for any of this.
- 41:00Yeah. Anyway, in the past year, Police
- 41:03Chief Steven Redfern said detectives have conducted
- 41:06several new interviews based on tips received and collected and
- 41:09tested new evidence. They did not release information
- 41:12about what that new evidence has been about.
- 41:14What new evidence has been gathered?
- 41:17Meanwhile, police have re interviewed people and retested
- 41:20other pieces of evidence using evolving DNA technology.
- 41:26This is the house never too late for people with the knowledge of
- 41:28this terrible crime to come forward.
- 41:30And I urge those responsible for this murder to contact us.
- 41:33I don't think that was going to happen.
- 41:35So yeah, that's that is the update on Ramsey.
- 41:40And because we're just going to kind of roll with it, let's move
- 41:44into three questions. It's 3 questions.
- 41:53Guys, while during the 8 minute hiatus between our last video
- 42:00and this video, three more questions came in.
- 42:03Now three this, in this segment, everything's on the table.
- 42:07You can ask me anything, anything you want, and I promise
- 42:11to you that I will honestly answer it.
- 42:15Most people are taking the opportunity to learn a little
- 42:17bit about me, but you could ask anything and I will tell you my
- 42:20opinion. All right, first question, did
- 42:25you ever jump ramps on your bike when you were young?
- 42:27OK, First off, I was born in 1975.
- 42:33Of course I jumped bike ramps. Yeah.
- 42:37No, I'm not. I'm not saying duh to you, but
- 42:39yeah, that there just wasn't a lot to do there.
- 42:43Like, yeah, there just wasn't a lot to do.
- 42:46Video games were a thing in my childhood, but they were
- 42:48expensive, man, expensive. I remember we had Pong.
- 42:53We later got an Atari, but we later got a Nintendo.
- 42:58But basically all I did was play in the fields, ride bikes, jump
- 43:05bikes and and play baseball. That that was my childhood up
- 43:11until I learned that girls were really interesting.
- 43:18And I was so stoked when we moved to California because we
- 43:21graduated from like making ramps out of like scrap pieces of
- 43:25plywood and two by four lining up neighborhood children past
- 43:29the ramp. See how many children we could
- 43:30jump right to living in a place that had a Creek area where
- 43:36people would make BMX style ramps and jumps and tracks and
- 43:43man, it it got it got serious. Then I went from having like,
- 43:50just the junkiest hand me down to having like a nice
- 43:54Diamondback BMX bike. And I spent so much time on
- 44:00those ramps. And it would, it destroyed us
- 44:03when like there was one time where one of our favorite places
- 44:08because it had an old pool in the ground so we could
- 44:10skateboard and stuff like that in there, ride our bikes,
- 44:12skateboard in this old pool that I don't know from some house
- 44:16that was there decades before. And there were just dirt ramps
- 44:21all over the place. And then somebody bought the
- 44:24land and developed it and it took away the best place for us
- 44:27to ride our bikes. Oh, my goodness.
- 44:29So yes, the answer is yes. Question #2 Did you ever climb
- 44:33trees when you were young? Oh, my goodness.
- 44:35Yeah. I I neglected to say that was
- 44:38the third thing I did. I climbed trees.
- 44:40Yes. And in fact, that that was where
- 44:45my mom just always knew to look first.
- 44:48Where's Gavin? Go check the tree.
- 44:50Because we had a giant tree in our front yard.
- 44:53And I I spent a lot of time up in that tree out in the Creek
- 44:59area. See, in Northern California, we
- 45:01have these giant black oaks. And I mean, they are giant.
- 45:08Some of those in that Creek area had to be 200 and 5300 years
- 45:11old. And we would climb them.
- 45:14And as we were climbing them, we would nail in like 2 by fours so
- 45:20that we could easily climb them later, you know?
- 45:22And once you, I mean, you get up into that tree, you're 30 feet
- 45:26off the ground. Oh, yeah.
- 45:28That was a blast. That was a blast.
- 45:31When I was really little and living at my grandparents house,
- 45:34they had crab apple trees in their in their front yard.
- 45:37I did a lot of climbing there and then in their backyard they
- 45:41had a giant tree. I don't know what it was.
- 45:43It must have been a Birch or something like that.
- 45:46I don't know what it was, but my dad, my Uncle Don, and my Uncle
- 45:51Phil made us a tree house by by nailing like old doors up on
- 45:56branches and we had like 3 or 4 of them so that we could hang
- 45:59out up in the tree. And grandpa and grandma had a
- 46:02big, big rope swing from another one of those exact trees that we
- 46:08could swing on. That was just, it was magic.
- 46:11It was magic. Yes.
- 46:14Trees are the best. And the third question, when you
- 46:18think about the version of yourself from your early 20s,
- 46:21what do you wish he knew? Oh my goodness, that is a tough
- 46:27question. I wish that I knew that you
- 46:31can't ignore or run away from problems, especially those of
- 46:35your own making, and that it is better to face hard things.
- 46:48I wish I knew that now. I learned that by the end of my
- 46:5120s, but in my early 20s when I was 20, when I was 21, I had a
- 46:59real hard time with that. And, and there are still
- 47:04consequences of that that I'm that I'm living with now.
- 47:08So those are our three questions.
- 47:21All right, so if you would like to ask me any question, any
- 47:25question or any quantity of questions, you could send
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- 48:03We talk about all sorts of things related to true crime and
- 48:06my life. I recently for our Christmas
- 48:12card not wrong one not wrong one for our Christmas card.
- 48:16I recently took a new senior portrait.
- 48:21I am 50 years old after all, I am I am pretty much a senior
- 48:24citizen. My last senior portrait was in
- 48:28high school when I was I, I was 16 years old when this picture
- 48:32was taken because I was, I was a young senior.
- 48:38But yeah, look at the difference.
- 48:40So every once in a while we add little bits and pieces of my
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- 48:58With that. Guys, thank you so much for
- 49:00spending a couple hours with me tonight going over these very
- 49:04important but tragic cases and we will continue our follow
- 49:10through. I will be back tomorrow night at
- 49:116:00 PM Eastern right here on this channel.
- 49:13And until then, I bid you, I do. Thank you very much for being
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