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Quarterfinals Workouts, CrossFit Games Mountain & Ilse Boevink · The Spin Podcast

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  The doctor of the future will give.
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  No medicine. You were an elite marathon
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  runner. I would say the last thing you
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  want to do is start running. Cancer is very preventable.
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  Special edition Tuesday. Need to go day early?
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  I couldn't. I mean, John had updated his
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  mountain and I was like, you know what?
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  We can't wait. If we would have waited for
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  tomorrow, I'd have been done with quarterfinals by the end,
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  so. That's right.
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  It's great, it feels fantastic. Just trying to play by, you
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  know, news comes out on Wednesday.
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  So they thought they were getting on board.
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  That's right. So anyway, John is his computer
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  is special this evening, so he'll be here in a second.
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  And but no, we got some viewer comments.
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  We're going to do some quarterfinals.
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  John is going to bring back the Mountain Special blind rankings,
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  I think. I think you guys are going to
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  like the blind rankings. And then we'll talk about Elsa
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  Boink, I mean Bovink and all the implications of what just
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  happened with her four year sanction.
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  I I called it. Did you call it?
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  I did call it. OK.
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  All right, all right. First up, here we go.
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  We got some viewer comments. You want to do those while John
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  is distracted. Frigging lutely.
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  All right, cool. Otherwise we'll never get we'll
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  never get going. All right, first up, viewer
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  comments, first one at Nathan Rees.
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  In regards to Xenom, are scores comparable between divisions?
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  If I get a score of 4000 and RX, is that on the same scale or as
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  an elite score? If Tia did the elite and scored
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  10,000 and then did the RX could she get a score of 12,000?
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  Or are RX and compete scores capped?
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  For example Max RX scores you get A6000 and if you can get
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  that you would have to try and delete another event to progress
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  further. This is a good question that I
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  did not think of. Do you know the answer?
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  I don't know for a fact, but I believe and we'll find actually
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  they are going to release the Xenom scoring tables or how
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  they're going to calculate it on Friday.
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  I did see that. Good, I'll be able to calculate
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  my scores. My understanding is that
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  everything is out of 10,000, so you know you have RX 10,000
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  score, you have an elite or whatever, and then you have to
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  compete 10,000 because they're not the same.
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  No. Right, because like some of them
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  are the same like the running, the running of the ski is the
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  same. You got the Max snatch is the
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  same. A few others are the same, but
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  like when you get to the one that has bar muscle UPS, you
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  only do chest a bar on compete. I think it is yeah.
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  And so they are different. The weights are different.
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  So it is it is different. I again, I think I go back to
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  the when I started when we had that guest last week was if
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  they're only going to Hi John, that's so much better.
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  Good. Crystal clear.
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  I I feel clear. You feel better.
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  I do good. Like, it loaded so quick and I
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  was like, whoa, OK, yeah. That's amazing what happens when
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  you restart your computer once. A new it's a new it's a new
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  world, dude. Let me tell you.
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  Go ahead, Zenom, we're. Just doing some Zenom point
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  discussions, but I, I mean, I think if they're only going to
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  allow a handful of people in the elite and then throw everybody
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  else in RX, I think it defeats the purpose of what you're
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  trying to achieve. Oh man, our 4th commentator.
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  I kind of liked her, like she. Was she's kind of just kind of
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  peeping I. Do the whole show like this
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  right here, dude. Let me tell you about
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  quarterfinals. Just just just have.
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  Her just like. How do we do this?
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  For a minute, we'll just see. Just see what.
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  It looks like she likes she likes to be her comments.
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  She's eating curios. Oh.
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  She's solid then. Yeah, she's she's good for a
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  while. No, I think, well, you, you
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  always want to compare yourself to the top athletes.
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  That's what makes kind of the open interesting.
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  And so there's obviously a point where you can't right.
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  Like if you can't do ring muscle UPS or bar muscle UPS, it's
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  like, OK, but at the same time, like you can at least see like,
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  oh, Tia's a 10,000 or 11,000 'cause she can beat the the
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  table. Sure.
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  I'm only a 3000 'cause I can't do some of these movements.
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  Yeah. And so.
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  Yeah, that that part sucks 'cause I just want to know how I
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  compare to the best and yeah. Same.
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  That's always the hardest thing. I used to have talks with my old
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  coach about this, like comparisons, the thief of joy.
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  But it's like, that's literally the sport that we do.
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  Yeah. I was like, you want to be like,
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  we're doing the fits on Earth. Like you think you're good at a
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  certain movement. Let's see how you are.
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  Yeah, for the not people at your level, right?
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  Like Tyler's pretty filthy at strict handstand push ups.
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  We want to see what Tyler's like versus Colton at strict
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  handstand push ups. Oh, he's he's he's 75% of what
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  Colton is, right. Not 100% of what the RX people
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  are. That's right.
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  You know like I'm 94% of what ghee is not the ghee in RX,
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  right? Like we that's we want to
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  compare ourselves to the best in the world.
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  That's why we have, that's why we have quarterfinals.
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  You can compare your 50 handstand push ups, Pat Veldner,
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  we'll get to that here in a second.
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  It's fine. All right.
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  Next, there he is, Burton's Colton.
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  Colton, this might be your only opportunity to win
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  quarterfinals. Man, you better.
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  You better make it the only. I don't know about that.
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  I don't know about only, but. Now when the when 8% instead of
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  7% pay to do quarterfinals, they'll be like, oh, it didn't,
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  it didn't work, let's go back to programming correctly.
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  We'll get to that here in a second.
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  Let's see. Jump the gun, John.
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  We found Keith's a burner account at Stat Travels, a great
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  summary of this and it sounds very exciting for the CrossFit
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  community. A very well spoken leader who
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  could articulate the event and goals.
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  Good luck as things progress. Thanks.
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  Really good looking guy here. He's a great husband, man.
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  Stat Travels is very excited for Xenom, and as he should be.
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  If you found it, you should be very excited.
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  It's better than our goal is sport or our North Star sports.
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  It's hell of a lot better. Than that, I think it's better
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  than that. So yeah.
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  So. Thanks, Keith.
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  Yeah, thank you for the comment, Keith.
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  There's a show and comments. Not too many people do that.
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  Next up at Key Master Miriam. Or Miriam.
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  Miriam. Miriam, Miriam, Miriam.
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  The most probably the most straightforward non German
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  people. Miriam.
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  Well, listen for America, it's Miriam, OK?
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  Or beer. Hum.
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  Miriam. Miriam is he?
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  German. MEER dash ham.
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  That's how it is in America. OK, you can say how you want,
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  but here what's what we're calling it.
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  Yeah, Miriam. No, she's not German, Tyler.
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  What is? What is she?
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  Swiss, right? Oh well, that's a Germanic
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  language. They use German.
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  So for all of you non German people, make sure you pronounce
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  it properly. It's Mir Hum.
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  I think the von Rohr throws people off and I think she
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  thinks she's German because of the von Rohr.
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  But yeah, I think Switzer. Same difference.
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  I hope next week we get taught how to pronounce it in a
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  different way. That'd be great.
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  Drop your names in the chat. Tell us how to pronounce them.
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  I don't care. Let's see.
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  Next up at Aber A Ramirez. A Ramirez.
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  I think that's the right way to do it.
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  Aber Ramirez. The pen is blue.
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  Abe Ramirez, J Rs Programming is so good.
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  Love it. Wish he'd program the CrossFit
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  season. Yeah, I mean.
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  He's programming syndicate Crown.
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  That's part of the season. Yeah.
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  Guys. That's a beat.
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  Now, J Rs Great. Yeah, I don't.
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  I don't disagree. You don't like J Rs programming?
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  No, I just think, I think he says that through rose colored
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  glasses and not have to having to have gone through some of
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  these torture fests that Jr. Do some of the craft workouts
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  just. Their class.
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  Workouts do their class workouts like the partner workouts.
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  Jeanette and I were just talking about 1:00 this morning, that
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  sled, we were doing a sled flip toes to bar, a bunch of other
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  stuff, and I like bonked in the middle and I was like, I'm going
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  to die like 15 minutes left. She's.
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  Fine my. First experience at Crash Jr.
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  was like, oh, it's like, let's partner up and I'm like, you're
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  a lot fitter than I am, man. And he goes it's, you know,
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  it's, it's muscle endurance movement, so you'll be fine.
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  And I'm like, and it is, it is, but it's a bunch of strict pull
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  ups and Jr. might be the best strict pull up person in the
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  whole world. And like, I'm pretty good at
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  strict pull up, but not, not like that, right?
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  We're talking like that's Tyler's 74% of Colton's hand
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  sample type differential right here.
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  And we get in this and he goes like about 40 and he goes, OK,
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  I'll go 7 and you go 3. And I've never felt so like just
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  worthless as a partner. And then we did a bunch of pill
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  thrusters after that and I had never used the pill.
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  Before. And, and like, it's fine.
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  I'm doing it. He's just, he's not breathing
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  heavy and I sound like an English bulldog.
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  And, and I'm like, dude, you knew what you were doing and you
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  did this on purpose the whole workout.
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  I'm like, you're such a Dick, Jr.
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  Like I, you know what's going to happen with this and you wanted
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  it to happen anyway. And like, and then and then and
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  then it was fine. But that was my first experience
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  with his partner workouts. I think with somebody like the
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  same skill level would be fine. Me and Tackett, we did a partner
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  workout as far as to even tack it and it went great.
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  You know what I mean? We play off of each other.
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  Stuff he's good at, I'm bad. Good one to one rest.
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  Work ratio, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't .25 but 1.75 which is
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  what me and Jr. ended up being. You said 74% right of of
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  Colton's. Yeah, I mean, I'm just throwing
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  out a. Number Colton.
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  How many how many strict handstand push ups can you do?
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  Just regular. Unbroken.
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  Unbroken. I want to know Colton in the
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  chest. Just cold.
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  Just go up there and do. It I would say 55.
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  To 60. You think he's he can do 55 to
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  60? Yeah, OK.
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  Can you do 35 of those? I think yeah, Tyler, Tyler would
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  be right at 35. I don't want to say how many
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  I've ever done unbroken. My Max is is right at 35 and a
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  Max set. Me and Tyler are pretty close so
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  I that 74% number is pretty good but I'm just throwing stuff out.
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  Don't. Know, yeah, I just like you.
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  Do that though, where you like, you shoot out a number and
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  you'll be damned if it's right every single time.
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  Yeah. All right, last one and.
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  Your. Clock is right twice a day.
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  That's right, the reminder. Just go subscribe.
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  The limit does not exist. This is incorrect.
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  He did 50 in 60 seconds. You're referring to the Craig,
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  the Craig Ritchie video. He did 50 in one minute, and
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  that was right at his limit. The 30 that he did.
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  Yeah, the 30 that he did, it's 50 strict handstand push ups,
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  rest one minute and then 30 strict handstand push ups.
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  He did the 30 unbroken 2 and I think that's more impressive
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  than the 50 he did unbroken. It's a there's a video, it's
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  videos on YouTube. It's a good video but because
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  Craig Ritchie was pretty impressive with his two.
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  I think him and Catherine were like neck and neck with.
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  Each other. Colton's not going to answer.
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  It is 35. Yeah.
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  That's not I'll be interested. To say you could probably do
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  like 75 and you should. That percentage is nothing.
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  The 4th workout. I know we'll get to it later.
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  I'm going slow until I get to that.
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  Doesn't matter, dude. It doesn't matter.
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  You know what I mean? Just like 26.2 here we go.
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  Last one, Jacob Lotta Morissette loved the idea of high rocks and
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  can't wait to do the one in Miami.
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  I also love peace score. Is there a way to block people
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  that comment Jacob Blotta? I don't know.
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  I don't. I do not believe you.
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  You love high, right? Yeah, Jacob, he likes.
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  The one in my name. Yeah.
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  You like he likes the idea of it, Yeah.
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  OK, he's talking about the xenon that's in Miami.
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  Gotcha. Yeah.
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  He lost me there but just had to make Tyler feel better about
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  himself. So I don't know Z score better
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  than greater than P score. I think P score is.
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  Better P score is better it Z Yeah, no P score is better.
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  Z score was too complicated. But not only is it too
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  complicated, there's a there's a distortion that happens in the
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  middle that I don't like. Yeah.
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  I mean, you could get it. When I say complicate, you could
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  get it, but to explain, it's just like another layer that P
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  score doesn't have. There is another one that's even
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  better than P score, but no one will ever understand it.
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  Yeah, that's the ZX score. It's like it's it's Z score, but
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  it's it's cubic. Yeah, that's all I'll say.
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  Yeah, nobody will. Understand.
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  Let's not even get into that. That's.
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  Caught and that's called sleep score on your Tempurpedic.
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  We will not do show about that. All right, that's it for viewer
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  comments. Leave your comments below and we
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  will answer or read off a few of them next week.
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  Quarterfinals, they're here. I know Tyler likes them, John
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  loves them. I'm indifferent.
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  I sit, I sit, I sit everywhere, all at the same time.
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  I'm in the metaverse on the on the.
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  Everything all the all. At once, yeah.
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  Are you sure? Yes, I can make every argument
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  from every position about quarterfinals.
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  You don't believe in one over the other.
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  Let's get into it. All right, we'll, we'll pull up
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  the the workouts here. Let's see.
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  Let's get that framed up. All right, 4 workouts first.
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  Are we happy with four workouts? No.
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  Wow. Jeez, how many workouts would
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  you like? 55.
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  I. Mean I think the more the
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  better, but I I understand. Does it get the job done with
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  four? What are you talking?
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  Don't. Don't look at the workouts.
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  Don't get the job. Done.
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  Get the job. Done work.
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  You. Yeah, you can, because. 21 and
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  22 we had, 5/23/24, we had four, we didn't.
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  We had zero last year and now we're back to four.
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  No, I mean, I think you absolutely can get the job done
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  with four, but it depends who you're testing for.
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  If you're like, this is just to get the people to the next
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  stage, which we want as many people to do it and fittest
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  people will make it anyway because 2000 is enough to get
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  everybody that, you know, we don't care about the fringe line
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  people, right? That's like 4 of your top 2000.
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  Then then like, yeah, does it. But then it really doesn't
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  matter what you program. You can literally just throw
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  anything out there. With five you can get a burner
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  you know 1 you can mess up on. With four you need to get it
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  right. All of it, right?
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  I, I, I would agree with. I would agree with that.
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  I would agree with that. Yeah, but like you can get more
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  adventurous I think with five than you can with four.
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  Well, I think time domains you just hit more time domains for
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  instance, like there is No 3 minute time domain in this and
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  there is no 20 minute time domain in this.
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  There wasn't in the open. They're all set up.
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  The entire test we've had so far is like 8 to 12 minutes.
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  The 8 to 16 I guess so like right in your middle range
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  because it's 16 minute well. For the for the non elite though
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  it was 12 to 16. 12 to 16 for sure, and it will continue to be
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  that will be 12 to 16 minutes. So if you want mass
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  participation, I still think it's important to have a
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  well-rounded test regardless of what people think.
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  But just even in time domain, I think everybody should go 20
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  minutes or longer and I think everybody should go 3 minutes or
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  less. And then there should be 3
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  workouts in the middle like you should hit every time domain and
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  then you should hit every modality.
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  It should be aerobic more than the rest.
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  And then there should be gymnastics in a layered way.
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  And then there should be 1 strength test and it could be,
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  it can be she got excited with the strength test and that can
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  be ascending weights like the the the last quarter final
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  workout, the clean and jerk ascending weights TO135185
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  something like that. Doesn't have to be a Max out.
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  Beautiful test. Everything gets tested, it's
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  well-rounded. I don't think it's hard to do
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  that right when people are like the right people are going to
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  get through cool. I just don't think it's hard to
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  do it right. And I believe like I just think
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  for the general population and it's not just you're fringe line
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  people, but like the general population I think should have a
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  well-rounded test too. Like you're, you're basically
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  like, I don't care. I'm just throwing things at a
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  board and then the right people will get through.
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  I think it's a terrible way to look at it.
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  All right, so we've always last year we we talked a lot about
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  like what is the purpose of the open now, right.
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  And I argued it was the pre season, it's the community, it's
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  the community pre season. But.
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  You're not like, no. No, no.
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  That's. Go ahead, spend.
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  Go ahead, spend. Spend me around.
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  And now I see quarterfinals as. Pre closer to the season.
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  The the start of the season the the not pre season that's
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  supposed to be where it's more serious to get athletes to the
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  next level. The problem I have is well, I
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  don't have to his problem. I quarterfinals aren't anything
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  at this point. I don't think quarterfinals will
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  have that much like that different than the open.
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  If you look at the open results and the quarterfinal results, I
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  don't think it's going to be that different.
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  I agree completely. And.
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  In saying that. But if you asked me, if you
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  asked me when the rule book came out or the season structure came
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  out this year, the very first graphic that was like, hey,
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  here's our season, we're bringing back quarterfinals.
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  I would have said the quarterfinals.
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  The intent of the quarterfinals is to determine who can compete
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  at the in person semifinals. Like that's what the, I mean,
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  the Open is community based pre season.
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  Just get everybody to go throw your name in the pot.
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  It's easy for the top one or top 25% for anybody that's gonna be
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  at the games to make that. They can be hurt and still make
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  it. Right.
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  They're now in quarterfinals. You're gonna give them a harder
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  test that's not the Open and you're going to now qualify them
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  into in person semifinals. You will survive semifinals or
• 22:04
  you will. You will do OK and.
• 22:06
  You need to make sure that people that qualify that the Top
• 22:09
  40 in the world out of the, you know, that end up accepting
• 22:13
  their invite to syndicate can do whatever Jr. ends up
• 22:16
  programming. We don't want to have people go
• 22:19
  there and can't do it. But, but, but then I, I
• 22:27
  published my article this, I published my article this
• 22:29
  afternoon. There's 10 semifinal events for
• 22:32
  individuals. I'm not talking about Magic City
• 22:35
  games or the Lat AM games that are only masters.
• 22:38
  I'm talking about just the individuals. 4 out of 10 use
• 22:42
  quarterfinals in some capacity. 4 out of 10.
• 22:48
  It's 40. Percent, like 5 of them don't
• 22:52
  use it at all. Yeah.
• 22:55
  And Norcal is like, well, we might give you a special invite
• 22:57
  if you do well in the quarterfinals or win a
• 22:59
  competition. So that one doesn't even really
• 23:02
  count. So it's not like it doesn't,
• 23:04
  you're not guaranteed anything. It's just that like, hey, if you
• 23:07
  had a great performance in semifinals, you didn't do our
• 23:09
  qualifier, we could invite you. Right.
• 23:12
  The other ones are only caught, some of their slots are.
• 23:16
  Well-being still a syndicate. I mean, I think around 8 or 9
• 23:20
  men and women for syndicate accepted.
• 23:22
  But at the same time, like if they qualify, they won't if they
• 23:25
  qualify at Mayhem or legends or whatever they they're not going
• 23:29
  to be, they can't go right. So I think that that number will
• 23:32
  probably whittle down to like 5 or 6 who got the special invite.
• 23:37
  So probably 35 ish 30 to 35 will be from quarterfinals at
• 23:43
  syndicate. So like quarterfinals isn't as
• 23:48
  important as it you would think it should have been at the start
• 23:52
  of the season. Like it's super important for
• 23:54
  Syndicate, but it's not as important like a Taurian is.
• 23:59
  It's also super important you have to do, you know, you have
• 24:01
  to go sign up on your own leaderboard.
• 24:03
  Taurian and Syndicate French has a little bit and there's one
• 24:08
  more mad or not even mad fitness vessel.
• 24:10
  Which one is it? French.
• 24:16
  French and legends. Legends has 10, so half is
• 24:24
  invites, half is. So they're not even a full
• 24:27
  roster. There's no no full roster.
• 24:30
  There's no full roster. You incentivize semi finals to
• 24:34
  just not use quarterfinals at all.
• 24:36
  Well, that's that's kind of my whole thought.
• 24:39
  Towards and it should be all of quarterfinals.
• 24:43
  Yes, yeah. Like I would love for it to all
• 24:47
  be quarterfinals, just everybody and then you backfill as soon as
• 24:52
  you know people whatever, you backfill as much as you have to.
• 24:55
  But so like it would make the most sense that way.
• 24:58
  It would make things less complicated that way.
• 25:01
  It would take away all of the bias that like, you know, I know
• 25:04
  Mayhem gets a lot of Flack for the invites that they do
• 25:08
  everything, all the little like things that like like the Roman
• 25:12
  deal, all the things that shouldn't happen don't happen.
• 25:18
  But you you cannot like you're as HQ incentivizing semifinals
• 25:24
  to not care about what you put out at all.
• 25:28
  They have no leverage anymore because everybody's essentially
• 25:31
  throwing these semifinals like they're, they're bootstrapping
• 25:34
  the whole thing, right? So they don't have any leverage
• 25:38
  to say you can't have your own qualifier because they need the
• 25:42
  revenue to be able to even put on these events, most of them.
• 25:47
  And then like, this is what broke my brain.
• 25:49
  So I thought about the fact that like really quarterfinals only
• 25:53
  matters for online semifinals now.
• 25:57
  Correct, it's not 2000 just to make it in.
• 26:02
  And then I thought, well, they sort of needed to, they, they
• 26:05
  did like a paradigm shift or they kind of shifted their
• 26:08
  thought about what the open was. So I think it's like a full
• 26:12
  community. It's just a community event now.
• 26:15
  And it just says like, Hey, you're going to play the game.
• 26:17
  But like those workouts weren't hard for anybody who trains for
• 26:21
  any real time, right? They can fit those pieces in and
• 26:26
  many more. So then quarterfinals, I was
• 26:29
  like, oh, so you catch everybody in the open and then
• 26:34
  quarterfinals becomes the old open.
• 26:36
  I really like that you said that last night John on wad prep was
• 26:41
  like these are all great open workouts.
• 26:43
  I for this to have been the open, I would have loved it.
• 26:48
  It's great open. It's great open the but it's
• 26:52
  like you want more than that. And so anyway, they boosted
• 26:58
  open, they're trying to boost open revenue by capturing more
• 27:01
  people. And then the people who want to
• 27:03
  play the game and be athletes in CrossFit, you just make it so
• 27:08
  that they want to go and do the quarterfinals workouts.
• 27:10
  And I think that they think they wrote good quarterfinals
• 27:13
  workouts, but they didn't. They wrote them for everyone,
• 27:17
  like most of the 25%. And it's just like there's no, I
• 27:21
  don't see. Any open is for is what you're
• 27:24
  doing in quarterfinals. Yeah.
• 27:27
  But they, at least that's what everybody told me, you know what
• 27:30
  I mean? The opening is a task 'cause
• 27:32
  you'll get your heavy barbell in quarter of miles, right?
• 27:35
  Like, or you'll get hard. Jim Nasty.
• 27:37
  You got you got a 315 LB deadlift, John.
• 27:40
  Right. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Dude, John's going to go through that entire thing unbroken.
• 27:44
  I great. Let's.
• 27:47
  Do do. Do they're not hard?
• 27:48
  No, no. I've I hear my lab rat, I've my
• 27:51
  lab rat did these workouts. He he two of them.
• 27:54
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tyler, Tyler's cloned himself
• 27:57
  and has he's Taylor them. Taylor has.
• 28:00
  Done. My lab rat has done I, you know,
• 28:02
  lab rat. Yeah, yeah, or your your your
• 28:05
  trash panda. Yeah, my your lab panda.
• 28:09
  Yeah, yeah. I, I, I thought about that too
• 28:12
  and I was like, OK, how do I want to break the deadlifts up
• 28:14
  to like, you know, manage my back.
• 28:16
  My back tends to blow up and I'm like, it's not that many reps
• 28:21
  Like I think I'm just going to send it.
• 28:26
  It's possible Tyler and you've and your clone is not your
• 28:31
  pandas done it. I wonder how tell me how he felt
• 28:34
  about it, but I I think I'm just going to send it.
• 28:37
  I really do. I think I'm just going to go
• 28:38
  unbroken as. Hard for camper as long it's a
• 28:39
  full send workout. And if I if I blow up, it'll be
• 28:42
  on the last barbell and then you just single it.
• 28:44
  And then you're. Done.
• 28:46
  Right I my lab rat went through the 4th barbell unbroken and
• 28:53
  then my Lab Rats also not the best deadlifter, but like never
• 28:58
  that lab rat never felt it in his back.
• 29:00
  He could just go. For example, and my my back is
• 29:03
  much better than Tyler's lab rat, even though it's not elite
• 29:07
  strong. The rest of you know, my lips
• 29:10
  like it's still better than Tyler's lab rat.
• 29:12
  Like that's, that's what we're saying.
• 29:15
  That's fair. And that shouldn't be the case.
• 29:21
  Like, like if you're gonna ride a deadlift workout, your back
• 29:25
  should blow up. It should be enough where it's
• 29:28
  like I'm broke down. What's the what's the heaviest
• 29:32
  back in the day that a deadlift? Was they did 365 as an AMRAP, As
• 29:37
  an AMRAP and the open, like once you've got here, it's just as
• 29:41
  many reps as you can do. Austin Malleolo did 38 deadlifts
• 29:45
  with 365 and then box jumps and they're like, good luck.
• 29:50
  I've never hurt so bad in my entire life.
• 29:52
  And that was in 2012. We're 14 years away from that
• 29:58
  and we're like, we can't go heavier than 315 and the next.
• 30:02
  Stage. Like it like it does.
• 30:04
  It's cleaner that way. It's just three plays.
• 30:06
  You take any open, any open from 2011, the very first one to 2020
• 30:13
  and it would make for a better quarterfinals test than the one
• 30:17
  we have as far as well balanced time domains.
• 30:21
  You hit gymnastics, you hit aerobic capacity.
• 30:24
  It's not even just a weights in gymnastics, right people?
• 30:28
  I know it's I hate. It's a variance.
• 30:30
  You're not very. Saying it, people are like, oh,
• 30:32
  he just wants to live. It's not that at all.
• 30:36
  John wants a 20 minute workout. I want a 20 minute AMRAP.
• 30:39
  I want a 20 minute AMRAP Like 'cause we should, we should have
• 30:43
  that. We're not testing that either.
• 30:46
  We're not testing sprinting and we're not testing long.
• 30:48
  We're just testing steady state 9 to 16 minute cardio right now.
• 30:56
  To hit, to hit kind of what you're speaking on.
• 30:58
  So we're, we're we're up the middle with like the 12, what is
• 31:01
  it 12 to 16 or 12 to 16? It's really like 6 to 13 minute
• 31:08
  range for anybody who's decent, right?
• 31:10
  It's just up the middle. It's a little, it's a little too
• 31:13
  much cross fat. I would say that's too much. 30
• 31:17
  cleans at 2:25. I don't think many people are.
• 31:19
  I think you're shutting it down real quick.
• 31:24
  I, I sort of make this argument, I've made this argument before,
• 31:27
  but it's like, as you progress up the ladder of the season,
• 31:30
  open quarter, finals, semifinals games, you should be allowed to
• 31:34
  be exposed to more, more niche style testing, more heavyweight,
• 31:41
  more gymnastics, more limited workouts where it's like, Oh
• 31:45
  yeah, we're just going to see like we're going to give the,
• 31:47
  the freaks a chance to like show out, right.
• 31:50
  And so based on that, they programmed well to the
• 31:54
  methodology. The tests are just boring.
• 32:00
  Do you think they'll get more people to sign up then say 2024?
• 32:04
  That's that's the goal, right? I will be running that they for
• 32:08
  Dang sure hope so. Yeah.
• 32:11
  You know, put out a piss poor quarterfinal like that and like
• 32:14
  and like. It's always been about 50%,
• 32:16
  right? I'm tired of it.
• 32:18
  It was 7% last year. Yep. 7% that's semifinals, I
• 32:22
  thought. It was quarterfinals.
• 32:25
  Quarterfinals. Quarterfinals is not 7%.
• 32:28
  Oh, of the pool that could sign up for quarterfinals, it was
• 32:31
  like what, 50%, yeah. Yeah.
• 32:34
  What? What is the 7% number that's
• 32:36
  semi final? What you're talking about
• 32:38
  October 7th? Yeah.
• 32:40
  Maybe. That might be it, all right.
• 32:46
  We're talking about the workouts.
• 32:48
  Yeah, yeah. Workout one, shuttle runs
• 32:50
  overhead, squats, burpees over the bar.
• 32:52
  You get to rest and you go backwards.
• 32:54
  One 1580 lbs time cap 12 minutes.
• 33:00
  Oh look, Larry Young, first of all, thank you Larry.
• 33:03
  In case you didn't know I wanted a Max, I'll give you a smidget
• 33:07
  biased. Is that a picture of your dad?
• 33:11
  No. No, it is he.
• 33:13
  He googled, he googled Auchinic kid.
• 33:16
  No, he googled Auschwitz camp and that's what came out of it.
• 33:20
  There's no shot like no, no, no. That's not him a long time ago.
• 33:24
  I don't, I really, I've never seen that picture.
• 33:26
  I've seen a lot of pictures and I've never seen that one.
• 33:29
  OK. He's looking jacked though. 115
• 33:35
  LB overhead squats for dudes. I don't have a problem with the
• 33:38
  weights on this. It's supposed to be it's
• 33:40
  supposed to be a Sprint. I know get with the programming
• 33:43
  Bill was like we this should be 135.
• 33:45
  It's not about the overhead squads.
• 33:47
  This is about hurting. It's it's like you run an 800
• 33:52
  meter for time rest one minute and run another 800 meter for
• 33:55
  time like this is that lactate filled up threshold?
• 33:59
  I can't breathe. Don't stand up all the way on
• 34:02
  your overhead squats type thing. Hard, hard movement for there
• 34:06
  not to be video, Oh my. God.
• 34:09
  I think bad ton of people are going to cheat this hard but and
• 34:14
  like and Bill's thought process was the heavier you get, you can
• 34:17
  you like you'll cheat it less because you just can't do it
• 34:20
  right. Right, you have to lock out.
• 34:22
  100% get that it's the. Same thing as masters two years
• 34:25
  ago, they had £95 overhead squats I think it was.
• 34:29
  It's rough. It's rough.
• 34:31
  This workout at 155 killer. Yeah, but then it changes.
• 34:37
  It's like it's just an overhead. It's a little slower.
• 34:39
  Like I think you have to rewrite the workout if you're going to
• 34:42
  do those weight 'cause it's supposed to be fast burner and
• 34:47
  the heavier you get, you take away from that stimulus.
• 34:49
  We'll see. My lab rat said that the
• 34:53
  overhead squats in the second round were the hardest 115
• 34:56
  overhead squats that they've ever done.
• 34:58
  Did he go unbroken? First round.
• 35:02
  Oh, wow, you're dropping the test.
• 35:04
  You know what's funny? Like as, as we dissect these
• 35:08
  workouts, I, I, I, I hate the test.
• 35:12
  I hate the test so much. I actually think I'm going to be
• 35:16
  pretty good at it. Like as like it's very specific
• 35:22
  as far as the stimulus goes and the deadlift workout would be
• 35:25
  the one that I wouldn't be good at.
• 35:27
  And it's short enough that I think I can, I think I can
• 35:28
  Sprint it so. You'll be in the.
• 35:32
  You'll be fine. What do you?
• 35:35
  Based on what I've seen so far. OK, no, like this one.
• 35:38
  I actually think I'll put up a pretty.
• 35:40
  Yeah, you'll do well. A pretty great score just
• 35:42
  because that type of pain, that 4 minute pain I'm pretty good
• 35:47
  at. Like if this was 3 rounds for
• 35:49
  time of this. You think you're going to do
• 35:51
  this in? No, like it's, it's a 4 minute
• 35:55
  thing, rest one minute and then another 4 minute thing if
• 35:57
  they're they're intervals and and I'm pretty decent at that
• 36:02
  type of that type of pain. It's like you're.
• 36:06
  Insane. No, no.
• 36:07
  I do want to see burpees 50 through 60 though, John.
• 36:12
  Yeah, dude, dude, like the you get your minute of rest.
• 36:15
  I mean, you let all the lactate sink in, but your lungs are kind
• 36:19
  of getting OK. And that's all that I need for
• 36:22
  the burpees and my legs will be able to like I'm not worried
• 36:25
  about how my legs are feeling, right.
• 36:27
  So you know, you say that spin like my.
• 36:31
  You've done 100 burpees in 5 minutes.
• 36:34
  My burpees are pretty good. I know the burpees.
• 36:36
  Are they're much better than mine You'll.
• 36:38
  Be but 50 to 70 was getting pretty rough.
• 36:41
  Yeah. But then you found that extra
• 36:43
  extra gear. I'm telling you, I, I my lab rat
• 36:47
  struggles with burpees. He struggles with burpees.
• 36:50
  And like as far as just speed and volume and the 30, the 2nd
• 36:59
  30 was fine through about 23 of them.
• 37:04
  About 20. Three of them.
• 37:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. My lab rat slowed down for the
• 37:08
  last 7 to. I'm curious what was the
• 37:12
  strategy because I, I think for people like like, like you want
• 37:15
  to talk about like how people should approach these.
• 37:18
  I think the first iteration you should not Sprint.
• 37:23
  It should just be a decently hard pace.
• 37:25
  But like don't even worry about your time, just a decently hard
• 37:29
  pace the overhead squats if you can.
• 37:34
  I think non negotiable hold it for unbroken.
• 37:37
  Even if it puts you in a hole unbroken, you're going to have a
• 37:42
  faster time. The shuttle runs is just like
• 37:46
  the last 10 shuttle runs. You're not going to fail a
• 37:49
  shuttle run. No, you're not going to fail.
• 37:51
  You're just trying to convince your body to actually do it the
• 37:54
  right way and like move fast, but like it's.
• 37:56
  So that was the hardest part of the entire workout was the last
• 37:59
  10 shuttle. Runs.
• 38:00
  You see Colton with his new shoes.
• 38:03
  He's so fast. I saw his attempt at a Sprint.
• 38:07
  He looks funny when he's trying to get after it on like a
• 38:10
  Sprint. Yeah, it, it just looks funny.
• 38:14
  I mean, he's, he's going to squat a lot faster than I am,
• 38:16
  but like a 4 yard dash. It's I think it'd be, oh dude,
• 38:20
  it's going to be yeah. I think, I think we should do
• 38:22
  this one live because I mean, I don't think he should be
• 38:27
  concerned about like obviously he's not concerned about his
• 38:30
  time. I think the 10 shuttle runs are
• 38:32
  going to like, I actually think this workout's going to hurt a
• 38:34
  lot more than people think. I think they're going to do that
• 38:38
  at first round and they're going to be OK.
• 38:40
  And then that one minute is just enough time for it to sink in
• 38:44
  and be like, I can't feel my body right.
• 38:46
  And then you're going to do the burpee spine burpees and you can
• 38:49
  get through them. The 20 overhead squats is where
• 38:52
  you need to be like opened up. And I think a lot of people are
• 38:57
  going to be not OK when they get to that, when they get to that
• 39:00
  point, you should do everything you can to hold on to those 20
• 39:06
  unbroken. If you think you can go well,
• 39:08
  I'm going to go like 1064 and be really quick about it.
• 39:12
  You're not going to be. You're going to drop that bar
• 39:14
  and wait. Wait.
• 39:15
  Yeah, yeah, you've lost at least 20 seconds.
• 39:17
  Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, yes.
• 39:21
  And then the 10, it doesn't really matter what hole you're
• 39:23
  put in. The 10 shuttle runs, you can
• 39:26
  just strut through the 1st 3 and then you'll be able to pick it
• 39:29
  up. Yeah.
• 39:30
  And then it's over. It's over.
• 39:31
  That's what I'll say like they got faster as they went along
• 39:36
  the shuttle runs. What was Lab Rats time?
• 39:40
  Maybe one time after. Not telling you.
• 39:43
  It's a secret. Dude, you're, he's not going to
• 39:45
  beat me in this. I don't think I'm going to beat
• 39:47
  you in this one. I think I have a decent shot at
• 39:49
  the deadlift. Well, I mean, I again, I'm going
• 39:53
  to send it and then if I blow up, I blow up.
• 39:55
  But you said you were unbroken all the way up into the last
• 39:57
  bar, so no. Like the last two rounds, OK.
• 40:00
  And we're just going to, I think I'll either have.
• 40:03
  AI think I'll get you wind wise on that one.
• 40:06
  What does that mean? The I think the dubs are going
• 40:09
  to screw you up. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:11
  No, no, no, I I agree. Yes, I agree.
• 40:14
  I think I'm going to be breathing really heavy that
• 40:18
  we'll talk about it when we get there.
• 40:19
  That's what like, like this is the most fun.
• 40:21
  We're going to. I'm excited for this one.
• 40:23
  It's the most fun one. I'm interested to see all the
• 40:28
  strategies. Yeah, who was it had a really
• 40:33
  good, Seth had a really good take on this.
• 40:36
  I like the strategy, like testing people's ability to
• 40:40
  create a strategy like you're you're doing, you know, like
• 40:45
  your mental capacity is not one of the 10 general skills or
• 40:48
  whatever, but it it sort of implicitly is.
• 40:51
  And I like like you have. To I look, I look at athlete, I
• 40:55
  look at it as like, hey, I just got to do this amount of work,
• 41:00
  right? Like it's like moving one thing
• 41:02
  to the other side, you know, moving weights to the other
• 41:05
  side. You can pick, do you want to
• 41:06
  pick the heavyweights first or you want to do the lightweights
• 41:08
  first? Do you want to do the gymnastics
• 41:10
  first? Do you want to do the right the
• 41:12
  weightlifting first? It's up to you.
• 41:15
  It generally comes down to very, very similar strategies.
• 41:19
  But yeah, I don't look it as like how smart you are.
• 41:24
  It's just we're just going to give you work, and you just got
• 41:27
  to get as much work done as you can as fast as you can.
• 41:30
  Yeah, I don't care how you do it.
• 41:33
  There is a intelligence part to it though.
• 41:38
  Well, 'cause like everybody wants to talk about like
• 41:40
  breaking it, like do you break it up short that I mean the, the
• 41:42
  most optimal way is to do the biggest sets that you can so you
• 41:45
  don't slow down, but do the shortest amount of of sets.
• 41:48
  I would do 2. I mean, I think everybody I do.
• 41:50
  21 all the way through. No, but for spin, for spin,
• 41:55
  that's a good strategy dude. Like spin can just.
• 41:59
  It's like, it's like Armand Hammer's Murph 321 or one or one
• 42:04
  2-3, his hundred rounds of 123. And he said that was his fastest
• 42:09
  time. And like, spin's always like,
• 42:11
  like, yeah, I think what is? He's a freaking cross country
• 42:13
  runner. He can just go at a steady pace
• 42:15
  forever, right Him like putting his muscles to the limit and
• 42:21
  then having to continue is not how his body is going to
• 42:25
  operate, right like. Yeah, if I start failing on
• 42:28
  squat hanging squat cleans, I'm sure it's not going to get bar
• 42:31
  muscle UPS. Well, like if his legs just feel
• 42:33
  any type of way, but like even like a four two or but like
• 42:37
  let's just say with two one, I believe this.
• 42:40
  The I actually had my mom do Murph that way and she was the
• 42:44
  fastest Murph she's ever done. And I did that because of Armen.
• 42:47
  It's manageable. And back in the day I saw Armen
• 42:50
  do that and was like, I think you should do this mom.
• 42:52
  And like this is when I'm learning, learning things right.
• 42:54
  And best, best Murph you ever had.
• 42:59
  I originally thought 10 rounds of 84, but I did a 3 minute imam
• 43:06
  just to get a feel of what that would feel like.
• 43:08
  And Gage I could do that for 10, I don't think I could do it.
• 43:13
  For what could you hold on to the longest?
• 43:16
  The bar muscle UPS I think I can hold on to much longer than the
• 43:19
  the cleans. They felt easier than the cleans
• 43:24
  Breathing, breathing wise. Like the lab rat did it?
• 43:27
  What? Your lab rat did.
• 43:28
  It just three minutes. No, I just, I didn't even an
• 43:31
  e-mail. Got it.
• 43:32
  Got. It and the bar muscle UPS, like
• 43:35
  it's just your ability to do it. It took more breathe, the cleans
• 43:38
  took more breathing away than the bar muscle UPS did.
• 43:41
  So I actually think that I'm going to do like 10 bar muscle
• 43:47
  UPS in the very like 321-GO and do 10 bar muscle UPS.
• 43:51
  Get a chunk out. And then do like solid sets,
• 43:57
  like a 10, like a 83. Yeah, I like leave myself with
• 44:01
  20 dumbbell hang squat cleans at the end.
• 44:04
  So even if I'm really out of breath, like it's it's over,
• 44:08
  it's over. When I as soon as I'm done, it's
• 44:10
  over. That quarterfinals work out the
• 44:14
  the Choose Your Own adventure. Was it the?
• 44:16
  Quarter 2020.5. 20.5 I basically did wall balls and and rope
• 44:23
  climb or muscle ups and then just rode.
• 44:26
  Yeah, dude, I didn't, I didn't. No, that's that's like the best
• 44:29
  way to do that workout is 10 rounds of 412 muscle ups and 12
• 44:34
  wall balls and then you got an 80 Cal row at the end of it.
• 44:37
  But. Hear me out.
• 44:39
  Go ahead. Here's my here's my take on
• 44:42
  this. I'd like to overcomplicate
• 44:43
  everything so this might seem hard in thought, but I think it
• 44:48
  makes sense. 21324. Three open, 123-4567. 65432.
• 44:57
  Basically invert invert it so your dumbbell hang cleans are
• 45:01
  are weighted at the end because basically it's just breathing.
• 45:04
  If you if with the hang dumbbell cleans right and your and your
• 45:07
  grip. But I want to save that for the
• 45:09
  end. So like it's it's over.
• 45:11
  It's like if I have 20 in a row, I can do 20 in a row.
• 45:14
  I'm just hurting so much and won't be able to do anything
• 45:17
  after. Right.
• 45:18
  And then and then. So open heavy bar muscle ups and
• 45:22
  descend down and then open light dumbbell hang squat basically so
• 45:26
  you can just recover to do bar muscle ups and then, you know,
• 45:29
  weight those heavier as you go through the workout.
• 45:32
  I, I, I think I'm going to try to do it that way.
• 45:34
  I haven't like come up with a Rep scheme but but.
• 45:37
  You just kind of map it. Out unbroken.
• 45:39
  I'm, I'm going to say 20 at the end.
• 45:43
  Yeah, a big chunk. Because 8-4, like 8, is nothing
• 45:48
  but at the end of three rounds. Just 1234.
• 45:52
  I was out of breath, but your muscles aren't failing, it's
• 45:54
  just staying in it. Yeah, you just got to want it.
• 45:57
  It's kind of like I would say like 30 LB wall balls.
• 46:00
  Like you can keep going. You should get really out of
• 46:03
  breath, like like, you know, if you keep doing it though.
• 46:06
  Are the rules Can you use your grip on the dumbbells?
• 46:10
  I haven't read into it, I would guess not.
• 46:13
  I would bet they didn't call it out.
• 46:15
  That even saves your grip though.
• 46:17
  If you if you save like 20 hang squat cleans at the end, your
• 46:22
  grip is not being as taxed because you're on the bar muscle
• 46:25
  UPS versus being on the hang squat cleans.
• 46:27
  You know when you go back and forth and never resting you know
• 46:30
  opens. Up in a new tab.
• 46:34
  Because bar muscle UPS, your grip is getting rest when you're
• 46:36
  at the top. Agreed.
• 46:38
  Yeah. And I I you don't want your grip
• 46:40
  blowing up in the ring or in the bar, muscle up.
• 46:43
  Cannot be used in the hang squat.
• 46:45
  Clean and no one's going to stop you.
• 46:46
  You know why? Nobody will see it.
• 46:49
  Really quick. Can you start from the floor on
• 46:51
  the very first? Why does everybody keep?
• 46:53
  Asking this well. Taylor said that you could, and
• 46:56
  then that was like, oh really Like and I didn't think that you
• 46:58
  could, but he said that. And then that made me think, oh
• 47:00
  wow. You mean so don't come to the a
• 47:03
  locked out deadlift and then do it?
• 47:06
  You mean basically do the snake clean?
• 47:09
  A clean from the ground is allowed but not required to
• 47:13
  start from the set. So like you just pick it up from
• 47:15
  the ground and then go into your hang squawk, yes, like a snake
• 47:18
  Tyler. But like, well basically you
• 47:20
  don't need to establish the hang and if people are doing that,
• 47:25
  you're wasting a second right? Single set you do if you do 12.
• 47:31
  If you do the two one method, you need that second.
• 47:34
  Right. No, no, no, you do.
• 47:36
  No you, but you really do. Yeah.
• 47:39
  That's 40 seconds. Dude that's a crazy cheat code.
• 47:43
  I I love it. Yeah, I mean, that's important
• 47:46
  for people to know though, you know?
• 47:48
  Yeah. No grips and you can cheat the
• 47:53
  clean. I agree, Tyler, I do think you
• 47:55
  need like so I would say if you're confident with your bar
• 47:58
  muscle UPS that I know. I'm just speaking for the public
• 48:02
  though, that chew off a big set of bar muscle UPS in the
• 48:06
  beginning and then kind of just math it out of like less spar
• 48:12
  muscle UPS as you go down, higher squat cleans as you go up
• 48:16
  and then or or just emom it after you're after you're 10,
• 48:20
  right? 10 or so just emom it to like
• 48:22
  maybe you do 3 and 6. Something super manageable
• 48:25
  right? John loves the emom.
• 48:28
  He's like how can I emom this well?
• 48:30
  When I I'm sorry, emom is the wrong word.
• 48:32
  A sets sets of three and. Six, Yeah.
• 48:35
  Yeah, not, not an EMOM, but I'm sorry, just I, I do Emoms a lot.
• 48:38
  So like that's like skill building.
• 48:41
  It's just emoms. But anyway, sets of three and
• 48:44
  six until you're done with six. Like you finish your bar muscle
• 48:48
  UPS at the same time as you finish sixty hang squat cleans
• 48:52
  and then you leave yourself with 20 at the end.
• 48:54
  I think that's the best way if you're confident with your bar
• 48:57
  muscle UPS. If you're not confident but you
• 48:59
  have them, then I think exactly how Brian's doing it is the
• 49:04
  greatest way to do it. Maybe not 21, but like even like
• 49:08
  a 4A41, like like a four one. And then you just leave yourself
• 49:13
  time at the end to get as many bar muscle UPS as you can,
• 49:16
  right? That way you ensure you get your
• 49:18
  squat cleans done and then you end up with 20 bar muscle UPS
• 49:22
  and then you just get as many as you can at the end.
• 49:25
  Or maybe you do like 5 in the beginning and then do 41.
• 49:30
  If you're if if you're like me and you kind of like go by feel
• 49:34
  and if you struggle with bar muscle UPS, you should go like
• 49:37
  never even go close to where you think you're going to fail.
• 49:40
  Like come off a Rep early and then and then just move or or do
• 49:45
  like. 3 or 4 minutes of just attempting and then and then
• 49:48
  when the second that you fail, you're doing your, your 41, your
• 49:53
  four, your four, hang squat cleans and one bar muscle up the
• 49:56
  rest of the way. Do you think the your grip near
• 49:59
  the end of bar muscle UPS will be an?
• 50:02
  Issue if you're hanging on to big sets of hang squat cleans,
• 50:05
  yes if you're not, then I don't think so yeah like Tyler said
• 50:09
  like we're trying to get done with our Bois or muscle UPS
• 50:12
  before the. Big set.
• 50:14
  Squat cleans and we're when we're ending, like we're
• 50:16
  confident that you're going to finish in time, so you're just
• 50:18
  saving that big set for the end. Yeah.
• 50:22
  Jar jar loves CrossFit. What if you're the reverse
• 50:24
  athlete? Good bar muscle UPS.
• 50:26
  Going to feel the squats more. Do what I did.
• 50:30
  Set a 20 bar muscle UPS and then just.
• 50:33
  Yeah, try to stop. I mean, seriously, I don't.
• 50:35
  Know about 20 bar muscles. These are not heavy enough
• 50:37
  squats to like, really bother somebody.
• 50:40
  I would say yeah. I would say if you're if.
• 50:43
  You're a very, if you're very good at bar muscle UPS and
• 50:48
  you're in that 20 to 25th percentile barely made
• 50:52
  quarterfinals, I think it gets you.
• 50:54
  Yeah, I mean, Les Leslie would fall into this category, right?
• 50:58
  Like she's fairly decent at bar muscle UPS.
• 51:00
  The hang squat cleans are going to be hard for her eventually.
• 51:04
  I I think you just go 42 and you just rock with that the whole
• 51:08
  time. You know, it's not a very
• 51:11
  manageable rounds. If you're that person that the
• 51:13
  squat cleans are going to hurt, you can do 4 every time.
• 51:17
  Then don't ever get into hurt. Right, right, right.
• 51:19
  And then you just walk to your muscle UPS.
• 51:21
  You do 2 walk to your hang squat cleans, you do four walk to it
• 51:25
  like that's, that's, that's Chase's plan, right?
• 51:28
  And and like just very nonchalant the whole time, but
• 51:33
  you just hold a set. And then if you're creeping up
• 51:36
  on time, like you need to watch your clock.
• 51:38
  If you're 8 minutes in, it's 12 minute cap, right?
• 51:42
  If you're 8 minutes in and you got let's say 30 hang squat
• 51:46
  cleans left. No, it's 15 minutes.
• 51:48
  OK, if you're 12 minutes or OK, let's say 11 minutes in and you
• 51:52
  have 30 hang squat, whatever you would get then, then you need to
• 51:56
  not do bar muscle UPS anymore and finish your hang squat
• 51:58
  cleans, right? Like manageable sets.
• 52:02
  But every hang, squat, clean you don't do is a wasted
• 52:08
  opportunity. Sloppy.
• 52:10
  You're insane. I'm going to do 4 rounds of
• 52:15
  10/10 and chip with the squat length.
• 52:17
  At the end. That's insane.
• 52:19
  Go get it man, Go get it sounds. Like a great idea.
• 52:25
  Go for it. Just steal all 40.
• 52:27
  I'm broken while you're at it. It's worth a shot.
• 52:31
  Workout 33 rounds 50 Double Unders 10 Deadlifts at 220-5155,
• 52:38
  then two rounds of 50 Double Unders 10 deadlifts AT275185 and
• 52:44
  then we're going to finish off with one round 50 Double Unders
• 52:47
  10 deadlifts at 3:15 to 25300. Double Unders 60 deadlifts
• 52:56
  increasing weights. Good stuff.
• 53:00
  Go. Ahead, Tyler, you got to.
• 53:07
  Pick the overhead squat workout or this workout.
• 53:11
  But if you're programming it, CJ made a great point.
• 53:15
  There is no separation value in this workout.
• 53:18
  Especially for the elite. John, for the elite, it's like
• 53:21
  literally, are you gonna trip? And then, like, is your range of
• 53:24
  motion, like Colton's gonna win? Sorry, Colton, but your range of
• 53:29
  motion is shorter. And it's like there's no where
• 53:31
  you can make up time. I think Tudor will give him a
• 53:33
  run because Tudor's double unders are so fast like he's 5
• 53:37
  seconds faster for everybody else's 50 and he's not going to
• 53:40
  break it up right. Like I I think like, but there's
• 53:45
  a Max so many guys within 10 seconds of each other yes.
• 53:50
  Also this is a this is a type of workout that I'll say like a
• 53:56
  good deadlifter that is just decently fit, not not anything
• 54:01
  crazy, but a really a deadlift is their jam.
• 54:04
  A really good deadlifter. They can put up a time that is a
• 54:08
  games level time because because they're just going to go
• 54:12
  unbroken like like they can do dubs and they're going to go
• 54:14
  unbroken like like what else is stopping them?
• 54:17
  The only thing stopping them is transitions and you can have
• 54:20
  three barbells, right? So like.
• 54:25
  My lab rat didn't know that. Oh well wow, if you don't redo
• 54:29
  this I'm going to just swear. I think it'll be fine the the
• 54:32
  break was enjoyed. That's fair, that's fair.
• 54:35
  I might end up, I might end up doing that just for the break,
• 54:38
  quite honestly. The is.
• 54:41
  This Is this better in a live competition or a quarterfinal
• 54:44
  test? No.
• 54:46
  Well, OK people in a live. Competition.
• 54:48
  I would say the exact same thing.
• 54:49
  Like like there's just no separation.
• 54:52
  It would be cool from a race standpoint where they, you know,
• 54:55
  you got the buzzer out front and you're, you know, everybody's
• 54:57
  reaching. But besides that, like I just
• 54:59
  don't like it from except I want workouts with separation value.
• 55:04
  This the the reps on the deadlift are too short.
• 55:08
  Like if they would have like waited it to where you got to do
• 55:11
  like what, 150 double learners into 30 deads and then.
• 55:15
  Or or even even you keep the three rounds as is, 2 rounds,
• 55:18
  but make it 15 and then one round but the devil it's 20.
• 55:22
  It's 20. Yeah, something like that.
• 55:24
  Just like. It's not even that much more,
• 55:26
  but it's like a lot difference when you get. 10 is so short,
• 55:30
  like you can do those in 10 seconds.
• 55:33
  It's nothing. I also think this workout should
• 55:36
  have been 315365405I. Think it's pretty heavy.
• 55:42
  That's that's heavy, but it's like anybody who's duty doing
• 55:45
  quarter most, I would say 90% of people who are doing
• 55:48
  quarterfinals will be able to move the 3:15 but like all the
• 55:54
  best are going to RIP through that.
• 55:56
  Yeah. I think that's the equivalent of
• 55:58
  like a 315 clean in workouts and we have those.
• 56:01
  A four O 5, yeah, yeah. And we've had those.
• 56:04
  There are plenty like the. Freaking regions.
• 56:06
  Workouts too. 4 rounds of seven deadlifts at four O 5 and people
• 56:09
  were doing those unbroken. I mean, it speaks to what the
• 56:12
  open used to be with the clean ladders and things like that.
• 56:16
  Like people couldn't do it and it was OK.
• 56:20
  This you should be able to get to the 315 bar.
• 56:25
  You may not finish if you're on the the backside of that, but
• 56:29
  you can get probably muster through it.
• 56:32
  I would not finish the way I wrote it and that's that's the
• 56:36
  way I want it 'cause I know all the best are going to finish it
• 56:38
  and I'm going to get through two or three deadlifts at 4:05,
• 56:43
  maybe my 1 reps, 4/20. Yeah.
• 56:48
  Yeah, you probably get there and you're stuck.
• 56:50
  Yeah, I'm just going to get stuck.
• 56:51
  I'll RIP off. One, that's how it should be.
• 56:54
  Yeah, and it's like that feel that that's a cool feeling like
• 56:58
  I want more. And then like I really look at
• 57:02
  like you really see how fit the other people are.
• 57:04
  And it's like, yeah, my time is not going to be the fittest
• 57:07
  time. As soon as soon as my lab rat
• 57:10
  finished, they were, you know, they looked and they were like
• 57:12
  that's a 6 minute workout. Like you can hold minutes easy.
• 57:20
  It's a 6 minute workout. It's a minute per round.
• 57:22
  I know, but you said you said that we're going to be
• 57:24
  comparable in this me and your lab rat and I, I think I'll be.
• 57:28
  Fast. You think you you think you can
• 57:29
  do 6 minutes? 6 minutes.
• 57:32
  I think if I'm sending it, yeah. Maybe.
• 57:35
  I'll either blow up trying or it's going to be.
• 57:38
  Successful. That that's what I'm telling
• 57:40
  you. Like it'll either be 7:30 or
• 57:44
  it'll be 530 because I'm just going to blitzkrieg it and then.
• 57:50
  I think if you hit 730, you're hitting 1030.
• 57:54
  That's possible. It's possible because I'll be at
• 57:57
  7 minutes before I even get to the 3:15.
• 58:00
  If I, if I, if I blow up, if I blow up badly and then it'll
• 58:05
  just be single. But I'm I'm but you, you
• 58:10
  understand what I'm saying? Like it's just, yeah.
• 58:15
  I like it when John beats me better than when I beat John.
• 58:19
  Does the workouts better? Yeah, generally, yes.
• 58:23
  That's that's, that's not true though.
• 58:24
  Like like if there's a 20 minute domain here, here's the bad part
• 58:29
  about this is if there is a 20 minute domain workout where it's
• 58:35
  just like 15 toes to bar, 15 Cal row, 15 burpees over the rower,
• 58:41
  there should be a workout like that.
• 58:44
  Yeah. And Tyler will beat me at that
• 58:47
  workout and he should. There is none of that.
• 58:51
  There's none of that. And there, that should be there
• 58:53
  just as much as 185 snatch cycling should be there.
• 59:00
  And that's missed too. Like I think people get so lost
• 59:03
  in the sauce about like, what's not there?
• 59:06
  Like that's not there either. Right.
• 59:11
  Yeah, last workout. #4. 1000 meter row, 30 cleaning jerks at
• 59:16
  13595 a 1000 meter row and 30 strict handstand push ups.
• 59:21
  So I tested this one. Well, what's his name?
• 59:31
  Justin Young tested this one. But like I plan on doing it so I
• 59:39
  guess I can just say I tested it because I'm going to do it again
• 59:41
  but and I think the row is so irrelevant.
• 59:48
  Is it really? Well, you would say that though
• 59:50
  you kind of like rowing. To to to win the workout.
• 59:54
  It's not irrelevant to be like top 50 in the world.
• 59:57
  It's not irrelevant, but if you're not that if.
• 1:00:01
  You're not pulling like a 13814. Right, so I did.
• 1:00:05
  I did the 30 cleaning jerks under 2 minutes.
• 1:00:08
  I did the 30 handstand push ups unbroken.
• 1:00:11
  I rode at a 2 minute pace. So it's the whole workout.
• 1:00:15
  I rode at a 2 minute 2O52 to 2O5 pace.
• 1:00:21
  All singles, buddy, all singles. Nobody will do anything.
• 1:00:25
  May at best you do a double and that's it and then you move on
• 1:00:28
  the singles. 4810 you see you finished in like 11:00-ish
• 1:00:35
  minutes. I'm talking about with my time,
• 1:00:36
  but I'm just saying I. It's not 11 minutes something
• 1:00:40
  happened. Yeah, you know, Yeah, well, you
• 1:00:43
  can make you know, Tyler's not going to tell me he's dead by
• 1:00:45
  the time, so I'm not going to tell him that.
• 1:00:48
  But I think you're going to beat me at this just based on the
• 1:00:50
  row. I'm based on the cleaning jerks.
• 1:00:54
  Because of the row for me. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:00:57
  Like like a 2 minute to 2:05 pace.
• 1:01:00
  I'm chilling. I'm cruising.
• 1:01:02
  And I'm holding that. Too are going to row so much
• 1:01:05
  faster than that, but I'm pushing the cleaning jerks hard
• 1:01:10
  and I'm in the in the handstand push ups.
• 1:01:12
  I don't think very many people will have that unbroken at the
• 1:01:15
  end. Obviously all the elites
• 1:01:16
  probably will, but I don't think a lot of people will.
• 1:01:20
  Tyler falls into camper if he might.
• 1:01:22
  I'm a weird. I'm a weird.
• 1:01:23
  Why? You know, there's people.
• 1:01:24
  I don't think Tyler gets it. You don't think I get I'll die
• 1:01:28
  before I don't do 30. I'm broken.
• 1:01:30
  You said your you said your Max was 35.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah, but I can do 28 repeatedly.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But spent.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can be heartened pretty good
• 1:01:38
  and still be very close to your. Max, you will break, guaranteed.
• 1:01:42
  If you don't break. If you don't break, you're going
• 1:01:44
  to have like a time of like 18 minutes because you're going to
• 1:01:46
  go so slow. You're like, oh, that's fine.
• 1:01:48
  Sit down at the bottom. No, you're going to go, you're
• 1:01:51
  going to row a three minute 1000m pace and be like.
• 1:01:55
  I can't. There is not a pace I can hold
• 1:01:57
  on the rower and recover. I swear to God I can't.
• 1:02:00
  There is nothing in this workout though that's interfering with
• 1:02:03
  those handstand push ups, right? It's not like 30 shoulder to
• 1:02:07
  overhead like it's where you have to just kind of hold that
• 1:02:10
  30 pusters. That would be worse.
• 1:02:11
  Tyler will not go unbroken if he puts up respectable time.
• 1:02:14
  Now I'm gonna have to film it. I think Tyler's gonna have like
• 1:02:17
  a really good time 'cause even if he doesn't go unbroken, he'll
• 1:02:21
  go 26 and 4. Like I'll, I'll start off at
• 1:02:25
  A-150 on the rower, I'll back off somewhere around A2 and then
• 1:02:29
  you're. Gonna row faster than me then.
• 1:02:31
  I I just my only chance and then.
• 1:02:37
  You're gonna save. You're gonna save 5 seconds on
• 1:02:39
  the on the 1000 meter row and feel 10% worse.
• 1:02:43
  I can't move through the cleaning jerks fast.
• 1:02:46
  Right. It'll be 3 minutes on that.
• 1:02:48
  Yeah. And so like, I mean, I'll have a
• 1:02:51
  decent, like John's not wrong. Like, I'll have a decent time,
• 1:02:54
  but my only way to beat John is yeah, I'm not going.
• 1:02:57
  To be the five seconds on the road, it's.
• 1:02:59
  Just it's just a workout that I'm that you're probably not
• 1:03:02
  going to win. Like it's not, it's not, it's
• 1:03:04
  not your fault. There's not like a way to
• 1:03:06
  approach. It well it is my fault to suck
• 1:03:08
  it real. But but like, it's like, you
• 1:03:10
  know, there's going to be workouts where I'm like, I'm not
• 1:03:12
  going to be taller than that, right?
• 1:03:13
  Like it's just doesn't matter how you do it.
• 1:03:17
  It was all kind of better. Beat my butt at crash though.
• 1:03:21
  Well, I didn't think that I, I was trying to be sneaky at
• 1:03:25
  crash. I didn't tell anybody at all how
• 1:03:27
  fit I was. And I was like, I'm pretty fit
• 1:03:30
  at this or for myself. For myself.
• 1:03:32
  I'm pretty fit for myself. Did you see I Hey, I am 199 lbs
• 1:03:39
  right now. That's insane.
• 1:03:40
  There you go. That is the lightest I've been.
• 1:03:43
  7 lbs heavier than me in. Three years.
• 1:03:45
  That's the lightest I've ever been.
• 1:03:47
  I'm so weak. It's insane how weak I am.
• 1:03:50
  Weak. Yeah.
• 1:03:51
  No, no, for, for, for me, though, I'm like really weak and
• 1:03:54
  my grid team is worried about it and I'm like, just just let me
• 1:03:58
  get through quarterfinals, then I'll get it.
• 1:03:59
  I'll get it back up. But it's fine, yeah.
• 1:04:02
  But this is the lightest I've ever been.
• 1:04:04
  If you put John next to me, you would say he weighed 30 lbs more
• 1:04:07
  than me right now anyway. 7 lbs more than me.
• 1:04:11
  I don't know if that should make me feel good or worse that.
• 1:04:13
  Should make me feel good. So looking at the floor
• 1:04:16
  workouts, I feel like all of them are like in isolation or
• 1:04:24
  fine workouts. Yeah, and you could and you
• 1:04:27
  could add any of them. I think they're all class
• 1:04:30
  workouts though, like the second one.
• 1:04:32
  Maybe not, but go ahead. But you could add any of them to
• 1:04:35
  the open and make the open just a little bit more potent.
• 1:04:40
  Maybe not the overhead squat one just because of trying to keep
• 1:04:44
  it inclusive, but everything else I think you could push to
• 1:04:48
  the open. You just have a stop of like.
• 1:04:51
  I mean, if you're saying we can't program 115 LB overhead
• 1:04:55
  squats because we need to be inclusive, like it's just that's
• 1:04:58
  a, that's a sport that I don't want to be a part of.
• 1:05:00
  Straight up. We might as well be high where?
• 1:05:02
  We're at John. That's where we're at.
• 1:05:03
  What? Welcome to the.
• 1:05:05
  New. Open there.
• 1:05:05
  We did. We did ring muscle UPS.
• 1:05:07
  I don't think we're there. I don't think we're there.
• 1:05:09
  We did. When's the last time we've seen
• 1:05:11
  overhead squats in the open? It's been a minute.
• 1:05:14
  What? Well, I can't remember.
• 1:05:17
  It's. Been a minute. 14.214. .2 That's
• 1:05:25
  such like a specific movement though.
• 1:05:30
  Hold on, it had to be before. Then that 2016 overhead barbell
• 1:05:34
  lunge was so wild. We charged. 2018 was dumbbell
• 1:05:38
  front squats, unless there was overhead squats in another
• 1:05:42
  movement. Oh there was the double under
• 1:05:45
  workout. There was overhead squats in the
• 1:05:47
  double under workout. 2018 he's right. 18.3 with the hundreds
• 1:05:51
  the 100 double unders after every movement there was 115 LB.
• 1:05:55
  So it's been 8 years? Eight years.
• 1:05:57
  Not seen the overhead squat? IP.
• 1:06:00
  There was ring muscle UPS and bar muscle UPS in that workout.
• 1:06:03
  That chart that everybody references that just get rid of
• 1:06:07
  that off. You're never going to see
• 1:06:08
  overhead. Squad, that was a beautiful,
• 1:06:10
  beautiful thing. They were like 800 double under.
• 1:06:13
  So I'm like, guys, you're not going.
• 1:06:14
  To be not doing. That 4.
• 1:06:18
  So yeah, that's that's gone. Hey.
• 1:06:20
  Go give parting thoughts. I'm going to put her to bed.
• 1:06:22
  OK? I need I need 5 minutes.
• 1:06:24
  All right, good luck. So your lab rat did two of the
• 1:06:30
  workouts. Was it a mistake to release them
• 1:06:36
  on Monday if you don't want people to start them on
• 1:06:41
  Thursday? Then yes, it it's like I
• 1:06:45
  understand wanting them to do it so people can get prepped that
• 1:06:49
  that part I totally get, but then do the the code.
• 1:06:55
  But you can't do the code because.
• 1:06:56
  You're not video. And so it's like they're not
• 1:06:59
  going to enforce that people didn't do this on, you know,
• 1:07:05
  Monday night and Tuesday morning or, yeah, Tuesday.
• 1:07:08
  Anytime, yeah. What?
• 1:07:10
  What is today? Monday.
• 1:07:11
  Tuesday. Tuesday.
• 1:07:12
  Right now? Yeah.
• 1:07:13
  Tuesday, yeah. My whole week's gonna be thrown
• 1:07:15
  off because the show's not on Wednesday.
• 1:07:17
  I know it's like my relief point that I'm like I'm, I'm, I'm.
• 1:07:21
  All over past halfway, I know. But I mean, like, they're just
• 1:07:26
  not gonna enforce it now. The best in the world probably
• 1:07:31
  are gonna do it the right way, and that's all that really
• 1:07:34
  matters. Like my lab rat is not going to
• 1:07:37
  make a difference in the quarterfinals, so it really
• 1:07:40
  doesn't matter if they do it whenever they do it.
• 1:07:44
  Jar jar. So the rule book does say if you
• 1:07:46
  plan on qualifying for a semi final, have videos and at any
• 1:07:49
  time CrossFit can ask for one or more.
• 1:07:51
  Yeah, they're not going to. Not for anybody, unless you.
• 1:07:58
  Like they're going to do the top five?
• 1:08:01
  Yeah, guaranteed. If all of those come back clean,
• 1:08:06
  I don't see them going outside of that, even though 6th place
• 1:08:13
  could be impacted by people in the middle.
• 1:08:16
  Yes, but they're not going to do it.
• 1:08:18
  No, they're not going. To do it like you've not.
• 1:08:20
  There's a cascade effect when you start reviewing the.
• 1:08:22
  Leaderboard. The issue is we know when they
• 1:08:25
  do math through video review, they ask for judges.
• 1:08:29
  They hire judges to do online stuff.
• 1:08:31
  I've not seen or heard any of that of to apply to become a
• 1:08:34
  online judge at this point. So they have their small
• 1:08:38
  internal team to do it. So they don't have the capacity
• 1:08:42
  to go review more than 20 videos, men and women, so 40.
• 1:08:49
  Right. Right, You need a you need a
• 1:08:50
  bigger team to go review the top 50.
• 1:08:53
  And in this case, if the deadlift is that close, like
• 1:09:00
  there could be people that are top five that finish thirty
• 1:09:03
  forty 50th on the deadlift because it's a matter of
• 1:09:05
  seconds. But they have all three other
• 1:09:08
  workouts that are so good. But you never need to review 50
• 1:09:12
  deadlift videos that takes 12 minutes.
• 1:09:16
  And then it's going to reset the leaderboard when you give them a
• 1:09:19
  penalty and then you got to go back and then check it again.
• 1:09:21
  You got to validate and then get the well, I appeal it so I got
• 1:09:25
  to rewatch it and then tell you that you're wrong.
• 1:09:28
  Like no, they're doing the top five overall.
• 1:09:32
  The review those videos, at least a work out of those.
• 1:09:37
  I could say they're going to do all of them right?
• 1:09:40
  And then that'll be it and they'll move on.
• 1:09:42
  And you only have 4 semifinals that rely on it other than
• 1:09:47
  online. And it does again, the online
• 1:09:48
  doesn't matter because the top 2000 are going to be what the
• 1:09:52
  top 2000 are. Now if I if I'm 2001, I'm
• 1:09:57
  probably pretty pissed because I know.
• 1:09:59
  You're right. I got screwed because somebody
• 1:10:02
  did. Them yeah, 100% whoever's 2001
• 1:10:06
  you are out because somebody cheated, assuming you moved well
• 1:10:10
  the whole way. Somebody shorted their deadlift,
• 1:10:12
  somebody didn't count their their runs correctly.
• 1:10:18
  Who knows? You didn't lock out on your
• 1:10:20
  squad, say there's everything. Let me see if I can pull
• 1:10:24
  something up while we wait for John.
• 1:10:26
  What I don't like while you're working on this is more of the
• 1:10:30
  statement that it makes. So it's like at this point I
• 1:10:33
  want to feel like court, like you're in a you're in an event
• 1:10:37
  that is serious, right? And like the sort of allure that
• 1:10:41
  the video thing does like where you have to have a password.
• 1:10:44
  It's just cool. Like it's a cool value add that
• 1:10:46
  makes you feel like you're doing something serious.
• 1:10:48
  And so by like not requiring video by and like we know you
• 1:10:53
  guys weren't reviewing the videos very well for years and
• 1:10:56
  we like basically didn't care because it was like it made it
• 1:11:01
  more serious and you could go back and check if you wanted to
• 1:11:05
  another point. Whatever happened to the
• 1:11:07
  community review of the of the videos?
• 1:11:09
  Did that go away? Well, that's the semifinal.
• 1:11:13
  Oh, cool, cool. Yeah, so that'll be the
• 1:11:16
  semifinal. That's where that that comes up.
• 1:11:20
  Francisco Pasile, CrossFit quarters 26.4 Don't just ignore
• 1:11:29
  the fact that he did it already and did that, that that doesn't
• 1:11:34
  matter. His pace is not.
• 1:11:38
  Good. I mean, he's pacing himself.
• 1:11:42
  I could be wrong, but I think I think that he's a couple days
• 1:11:49
  early. Maybe you're not though.
• 1:11:52
  But we don't. Do we know about time change?
• 1:11:54
  Maybe this is his lab rat. It is.
• 1:11:58
  He could just be testing it. He's.
• 1:11:59
  Just doing a video review. On the good news is you could
• 1:12:01
  have quarters up there, the little badge that says it's fair
• 1:12:04
  to do it already, so that's cool.
• 1:12:07
  That's. Hilarious.
• 1:12:08
  So anyway, he's he's he's rowing, he's just chilling on
• 1:12:13
  the just under 4 minutes. Put that weight belt on.
• 1:12:19
  It's a cruise through. He's moving.
• 1:12:21
  He's. Got a belly on him.
• 1:12:26
  It's that power belly. He's got a long ass torso.
• 1:12:29
  He's not feeling it though. He's This is Tyler right here.
• 1:12:33
  Yeah. Tyler would be 5 seconds ahead
• 1:12:35
  of him though because he would have smoked that for. 100m row.
• 1:12:38
  I found the cheat code to cleans like this.
• 1:12:40
  What? I suck at barbell cycling like
• 1:12:42
  this and for me it's do 3 and do like 3 breasts and then go again
• 1:12:46
  do three quick three breasts and then.
• 1:12:48
  Go. It's good to know about
• 1:12:49
  yourself. Yeah, he's.
• 1:12:52
  I can. I can stay in the singles pretty
• 1:12:54
  long. Dude, he's at, he's at 4
• 1:12:56
  minutes. He's still going.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah, this. Is this is Tyler right?
• 1:13:00
  Here, he needs some JY Barbeau. Tyler's going to get a row out
• 1:13:05
  of 350 and then sit there with a 5 minute.
• 1:13:09
  That's a 155 pace Tyler. I know what's coming.
• 1:13:13
  Oh I thought he meant my my laptop or my split time was 350.
• 1:13:17
  He's he's still going. Where is it?
• 1:13:20
  Come on, come on, buddy. There we go.
• 1:13:25
  Let's let's see what this guy does here.
• 1:13:29
  He's. Going to use his skull map.
• 1:13:32
  He's not very good. Oh, nice.
• 1:13:34
  Oh. His hands aren't on the lines
• 1:13:36
  either. I think they might.
• 1:13:38
  His thumbs might be on the line, but there's definitely a pad
• 1:13:40
  there that. It's only 1/4 inch, what's the
• 1:13:42
  deal? Does the Roblox say that?
• 1:13:47
  Give Tyler 1/4 inch pad he can do he can.
• 1:13:50
  He's 85 percent, 85. Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  Maybe 90? Yeah.
• 1:13:55
  He said. Travis Williams.
• 1:13:59
  Yeah, so there you go. Is he finished?
• 1:14:01
  Good job. Oh, he took a long walk.
• 1:14:06
  He took that John walk. And then he didn't walk all the
• 1:14:09
  way around the rower. These look good though.
• 1:14:13
  I mean I get the pads bad but. Yeah, Where's the line?
• 1:14:18
  I, I, I He's showing capacity for sure.
• 1:14:24
  I've always, that's always been my qualm about handstand push
• 1:14:27
  ups. Like I love handstand push ups.
• 1:14:28
  I want them to show up every time.
• 1:14:30
  But like, you don't know if anybody's really doing them.
• 1:14:34
  You can't see that line. You'd be far enough away because
• 1:14:37
  anything else that's that's in the movement, movement and so.
• 1:14:41
  Other than that, clean power, clean handstand, push up
• 1:14:44
  workout, these are utterly unjudgeable.
• 1:14:47
  Yeah, there's, there's no. Oh, he does.
• 1:14:50
  He shows the barbell. I don't think he measures.
• 1:14:55
  Dude, I wouldn't even be against this.
• 1:14:58
  What? What?
• 1:15:01
  I, I was, I was, you know, I was good with the box.
• 1:15:04
  Like your hands could be anywhere within the box.
• 1:15:08
  That's making it really hard for long limbed dudes.
• 1:15:11
  So making a line 10 inches away from the wall makes it easier.
• 1:15:16
  You should have an infinite line and then you can just go as wide
• 1:15:18
  as you want. Perfect.
• 1:15:22
  Leslie would love that. I mean, because if, if you're if
• 1:15:25
  you're short and short doing a short arm, you're still wide,
• 1:15:29
  but then Hopper can't because he's too tall.
• 1:15:31
  Like Hopper, Spiel had the same mechanical.
• 1:15:33
  Advantages if if Colton can hold himself like with his hands up
• 1:15:38
  wide enough where his head is on the ground.
• 1:15:40
  Hopper should be able to do the same.
• 1:15:41
  Is it just infinite? I guess it's just
• 1:15:45
  123456789101112 you understand? What I'm saying?
• 1:15:49
  Like his head is hitting the ground.
• 1:15:51
  No, you have to you. Have to have some space.
• 1:15:53
  OK, so he could be like. Yeah, I got it guys.
• 1:15:57
  You just said it. You got to met, you got to go
• 1:15:59
  into a handstand and you got to measure to where this is like 8
• 1:16:03
  inches off the ground. Yeah, that's scalable.
• 1:16:09
  You can get anything within that that you.
• 1:16:11
  Want. It's not fair.
• 1:16:13
  I have small hands. Right I hey, say what you will,
• 1:16:18
  I like the forearm method. It's like the powerlifting bench
• 1:16:22
  press. There was some woman that just
• 1:16:23
  did it and she was like this far.
• 1:16:26
  Oh, Laura felt sweat back in the day.
• 1:16:29
  Have you watched her do? Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  A bench press. She's going this far.
• 1:16:34
  And I mean, granted, it's like, I don't know, 400 something
• 1:16:37
  pounds, but she's also in a suit and she's, she was literally
• 1:16:43
  like bowed backwards. Yeah, quarterfinals starts on
• 1:16:48
  Thursday. You have 36 hours to prepare or
• 1:16:53
  something like that. Hey when?
• 1:16:54
  When's the last time y'all had a Graham cracker?
• 1:16:58
  Not very long ago, dude. They're.
• 1:16:59
  Good. They're really good.
• 1:17:01
  It's been a while. I want to shut a kid up.
• 1:17:03
  That's like the recipe 100% bronze had one ever in his life.
• 1:17:10
  Abby just had about 16. All right.
• 1:17:14
  It's time for the mountain, but we'll be right back after this.
• 1:18:06
  Music. You're going to need those frog
• 1:18:09
  grips for all those bar muscle UPS.
• 1:18:13
  Use code spin, save 15% and you'll you'll get all 40 muscle
• 1:18:19
  UPS unbroken. That's what I've been told,
• 1:18:23
  John. It's been since November 26th.
• 1:18:28
  Dang, that, that feels like a long time ago.
• 1:18:31
  I haven't. I don't.
• 1:18:31
  I haven't felt like it's been that long.
• 1:18:34
  It's been four months since we've seen the mountain.
• 1:18:37
  We have a lot more information. We have World fitness project
• 1:18:41
  finals to account for. We have the open, we have water
• 1:18:48
  soaked water palooza. We have we know who's in, we
• 1:18:54
  know who's out, we know who's pregnant.
• 1:18:58
  And so we have we know what the mountain is now.
• 1:19:01
  So I said, John, why don't you, why don't you update this and
• 1:19:04
  you're like, I got it. So we're, we're going to the SAP
• 1:19:09
  Center Games mountain in San Jose, CA.
• 1:19:12
  If you didn't know, there's a beautiful mountain right outside
• 1:19:15
  downtown San Jose. And that's right.
• 1:19:21
  How hard was this John to to update the mountain?
• 1:19:24
  I'm not very hard. I removed like 5 names.
• 1:19:28
  Most people just moved up a little bit.
• 1:19:32
  Aside from the obvious, there's been very few people who have
• 1:19:35
  done things that would justify moving them up.
• 1:19:40
  Well, I. Mean and I would love but.
• 1:19:42
  You've got you've got to add some people.
• 1:19:43
  Like T is now gone. Yeah, I had to ask more.
• 1:19:46
  Horvath is gone. Yep.
• 1:19:48
  Emma Tall is gone. I don't know who else you oh
• 1:19:52
  was. Was Emma Tall gone?
• 1:19:54
  I don't know if I got rid of her.
• 1:19:55
  Yeah, she's gone. She's out.
• 1:19:57
  She better be, otherwise you messed up.
• 1:20:00
  OK, well and we'll see. All right, here we go.
• 1:20:04
  Start at the top or the bottom. Bottom always OK.
• 1:20:08
  Sure. All right.
• 1:20:10
  You're the only person on the planet.
• 1:20:12
  I'd like to switch it up every. That wants to start from the
• 1:20:15
  top. I mean, you want to build some
• 1:20:17
  suspense. And we knew T was at the top.
• 1:20:19
  So like, that's kind of not exciting.
• 1:20:21
  Well, now we don't know. That's fair.
• 1:20:24
  All right, first row. Let me read them off here we got
• 1:20:28
  Afro DD Grigiorati. Yeah.
• 1:20:32
  Yeah, we got Tutor Magna, Gracie Walton, Paige Rogers, Alexis
• 1:20:36
  Raptors, Gabby McGowan and Mr. Pat Velder.
• 1:20:41
  Hanging on. Are you OK, John?
• 1:20:44
  Who is this? Afrodidi Grigiorati.
• 1:20:48
  Well, Aphrodite. OK, Aphrodite is.
• 1:20:51
  That her name, really. And then and then.
• 1:20:53
  Gregoriati. Gregoriati.
• 1:20:56
  Aphrodite Gregoriati. Is she?
• 1:20:59
  She's Italian. I.
• 1:21:00
  Guess and the reason she's. Here.
• 1:21:03
  Is because another woman did everything she could to cheat
• 1:21:11
  her way to the top. But she couldn't.
• 1:21:14
  Have a CrossFit workout called 26.3.
• 1:21:17
  She cheated 3 different times. She sent three different videos.
• 1:21:21
  It's well documented. Go look at Andrew Hiller's last
• 1:21:25
  four or five videos. It's a journey and no matter
• 1:21:30
  what she did, she could not be at the top of that workout
• 1:21:34
  because of this woman right here who actually did it.
• 1:21:39
  OK, Be everybody in the world, beat the great Mirhim von Rohr,
• 1:21:44
  who seems unstoppable in some of these, right?
• 1:21:47
  Just like Colton. I think Mirhim, I put her on the
• 1:21:50
  same level as Colton when it comes to open workouts and
• 1:21:53
  whenever she's good at them. Nobody else beats her in the
• 1:21:56
  world. Aphrodite did that.
• 1:21:59
  I I think it's I think the Ilsa controversy takes away from what
• 1:22:05
  Aphrodite did. And yes, she's on the bottom
• 1:22:09
  row. She's on the mountain.
• 1:22:10
  She probably will never be on the mountain ever again.
• 1:22:13
  But I want to give her flowers right because of that one
• 1:22:18
  workout that even though you could try to cheat, you still
• 1:22:22
  can't beat her. You still can't beat her.
• 1:22:25
  It'd be like if somebody if Kale put in a top 2 score and Colton
• 1:22:31
  was third, who is the best in the world?
• 1:22:34
  Yes. And then somebody actually did
• 1:22:38
  it better than both of those people, right?
• 1:22:40
  It just, it just I think it's very, it's not getting talked
• 1:22:43
  about enough. And I want to give her her
• 1:22:47
  flowers. For anybody who's seen, what is
• 1:22:50
  it? But John, she was 20.
• 1:22:51
  She was 21st in the world in the whole Open.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah, you know, no, again, she probably will never be on the
• 1:22:57
  mountain again. But I think that performance
• 1:22:59
  alone is worthy it being on the bottom and then once semi finals
• 1:23:02
  happens, I'm sure somebody else will be in her spot.
• 1:23:04
  I had to remove a lot of people. Nobody's really shown me a
• 1:23:08
  reason to be there so. Do you think over under of her
• 1:23:14
  being top 42 in quarterfinals? She was 21st, she say top 42 in
• 1:23:21
  the world. I think she can, yeah.
• 1:23:22
  I think she'll absolutely can stay at top 42100%, OK.
• 1:23:26
  And when you get to semi finals she'll probably be around 11th
• 1:23:30
  place and not make it. OK, Tudor Magda, 10th place at
• 1:23:34
  the games and he's at the bottom of the mountain.
• 1:23:38
  Gracie Walton was what, 17th and.
• 1:23:40
  Again, again, there's there's not a lot of surprises, at least
• 1:23:44
  in this row, because like you guys, tell me who, who has done
• 1:23:49
  things that justify displacing one of these people on the
• 1:23:53
  mountain? Well, we technically,
• 1:23:56
  technically Paige is an unknown. I mean, we saw her at Crash.
• 1:24:01
  Dude, Paige looks great. I actually think Paige is going
• 1:24:04
  to be. I think Paige is going to move
• 1:24:06
  up. I wanted to put her a row
• 1:24:08
  higher, but then I'm like, well, what?
• 1:24:10
  What has she done since Crash, right?
• 1:24:12
  So Gabby. Migawa unknown Pat Velner and I
• 1:24:20
  wanted to bring this up in quarterfinals, but he didn't
• 1:24:24
  have a great open. Peking.
• 1:24:28
  Where does he where does he qualify to an in person
• 1:24:32
  semifinal? Can he qualify for an in person
• 1:24:36
  semifinal? Qualify not get invited
• 1:24:38
  syndicate. Syndicate, Syndicate, syndicate.
• 1:24:41
  You think he's Top 40 in the world?
• 1:24:42
  How high? Where does Pat finish in
• 1:24:45
  quarterfinals? He finished.
• 1:24:47
  I think he'll be pretty filthy. 6 I don't think.
• 1:24:51
  It matters. Yeah, there's not a lot of
• 1:24:53
  separation. I, I, I, I I don't know.
• 1:24:56
  I think Syndicate Crown should invite him.
• 1:24:59
  They can invite whoever they want, right?
• 1:25:03
  Yes, the Pat Velder was 211th. Yeah, again, again, he had like
• 1:25:10
  a heart surgery where he had to get things figured out in his
• 1:25:13
  heart. I don't remember what it was
• 1:25:14
  specifically, but and then he had to recover from that.
• 1:25:19
  And then he like, it's not a serious thing, but still, it's
• 1:25:21
  still surgery. You still have to like chill out
• 1:25:23
  for a while. And then he trained for three
• 1:25:25
  weeks and then he was at Waterpalooza and was kind of
• 1:25:29
  lackluster there, right. So I, I think Velnor is an
• 1:25:32
  unknown, but I just know when he's at, when he's training for
• 1:25:36
  something like it means a lot and he's training for something
• 1:25:38
  and he gives his all. I still think he's one of the
• 1:25:41
  top 10 fittest guys in the world.
• 1:25:42
  I don't disagree but he has to get there first all.
• 1:25:45
  Right, he'll find a way. He'll make it an online semis if
• 1:25:47
  he doesn't make it. But I mean real question though,
• 1:25:50
  like what can he finish high enough to make it into
• 1:25:54
  syndicate? I think so.
• 1:25:57
  Where? What place?
• 1:25:59
  I think it'll backfill to him. And say what place do you think
• 1:26:04
  Pat will finish in the quarterfinals?
• 1:26:08
  42nd. That high 86.
• 1:26:13
  Yeah guys, the Open doesn't matter.
• 1:26:15
  You don't know what he was even do like he's probably just
• 1:26:18
  putting a score up. I'm going to say 42nd.
• 1:26:22
  Book it. Y'all want to we can make a we
• 1:26:25
  can make a game out of this. Go ahead.
• 1:26:27
  Tyler says 86. What do you say?
• 1:26:32
  64. OK, And I say 40, I say 42nd,
• 1:26:36
  write, write him down. And then again with fun dropped
• 1:26:43
  him a row. I think he was a row higher than
• 1:26:45
  this, and I put him down lower. He is the last person that's on
• 1:26:49
  the mountain. And that's just because I think
• 1:26:52
  when he's training for something, I'd still think he's
• 1:26:54
  one of the top 10 fitest guys in the world.
• 1:26:56
  I don't want to take him off. Oh, so you go, You go right to
• 1:26:59
  left for for they get better as they go is.
• 1:27:02
  That true? No.
• 1:27:03
  The mountain does not read right to left.
• 1:27:06
  We're being honest. Aphrodite's the last one on the
• 1:27:08
  mountain, but but Pat's the only one that, like, you know, might
• 1:27:11
  stay. Yeah.
• 1:27:13
  I, I, I just had that thought as I saw the open work or the, the,
• 1:27:16
  I'm sorry, not the open the quarter final workouts.
• 1:27:18
  I had that slip when I thought about the workouts, if it was
• 1:27:24
  more skilled or or heavier or more advanced.
• 1:27:28
  I think Pat does better. Yeah, no, I agree.
• 1:27:33
  But like if? It's.
• 1:27:34
  I think he does better if it's. Gonna be this if it's gonna be
• 1:27:35
  this engine. And that's not where he's at
• 1:27:39
  right now. I don't.
• 1:27:40
  I'm not convinced he can get there.
• 1:27:44
  So we'll see. Next row Amy Kringle, Ariel
• 1:27:49
  Lowen, Yonokoski, Ty Jenkins, Maddie Sturt and Mirham von
• 1:27:55
  Rohr. Yeah, the only people that
• 1:27:58
  changed a little bit on this was Tai.
• 1:28:00
  It was Tai and Yona. And as Spin said, actually you
• 1:28:05
  had. I think you put Kringle, you
• 1:28:06
  move Kringle up. Well, and that's just from
• 1:28:10
  deleting other people. Deleting Tia.
• 1:28:12
  Yeah, that was such a back ended.
• 1:28:15
  No, I mean, I mean, OK, Like Tia's not there.
• 1:28:18
  Everybody moves up a little bit like Amy Kringle.
• 1:28:20
  John has no faith in Kringle. No, it's not that.
• 1:28:24
  Listen, Amy. Kringle.
• 1:28:25
  No. No, Amy Kringle is one of the
• 1:28:27
  top 10 fittest women in the world.
• 1:28:30
  That's it, That's it. OK.
• 1:28:36
  I I Amy Kringle would be my pick to win whatever endurance.
• 1:28:40
  But why? Yoda Koski.
• 1:28:42
  So he was 5th or 6th at the WFP finals, OK, And we and he
• 1:28:48
  trashed the whole year except for there right.
• 1:28:53
  And then he came into Watapalooza.
• 1:28:54
  He was fourth that they did the last event.
• 1:28:57
  We streamed the last event at like Midnight Gym at Miami Beach
• 1:29:03
  CrossFit and he beat James like like I, he might have won the
• 1:29:07
  workout. He beat tie by a minute.
• 1:29:10
  So if they did do that workout, I, I think he's 2nd place.
• 1:29:16
  Like him and Austin Hatfield were separated by two points and
• 1:29:19
  and then now they're tied. But what, what whatever, right,
• 1:29:23
  Like whatever we do with that. But like, like if they do that
• 1:29:26
  last event and Yanukovsky is second place, I think
• 1:29:29
  everybody's like, think Kosi getting it together, you know
• 1:29:33
  what I mean? And I and he had a lot of stuff
• 1:29:36
  go on last year, like he had a baby right when semifinals
• 1:29:40
  happened. Now he did all this stuff to
• 1:29:41
  himself and now not. Not the baby one, but I.
• 1:29:46
  Feel like the wife had half of that.
• 1:29:47
  Kind kind of the baby. One, he did do it himself, yeah.
• 1:29:50
  Yeah, yeah. And like, and I and I, I talked
• 1:29:52
  to Yonah briefly and like he just had a whole lot of stuff
• 1:29:58
  going on last year, a lot of self-inflicted and I think he
• 1:30:01
  would admit that that stuff is not as much this year.
• 1:30:05
  Time out. I would kill to see an
• 1:30:08
  interaction between Yonakowski and John Young.
• 1:30:11
  Oh, dude, Yoda. Yoda was fine, man.
• 1:30:13
  He's got to be. Cool, but like he's he's so
• 1:30:16
  finished. That.
• 1:30:18
  No, no, dude. He was one of the he's very
• 1:30:21
  stoic. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:30:24
  Yeah, but dude, he was fine. Like we talked about where I
• 1:30:27
  ranked him in the top 100 and he was like, I don't understand.
• 1:30:31
  Like, I get it, you know, whatever you got an American
• 1:30:35
  bias. It's all it's all good.
• 1:30:37
  That's cool. And then he's like, but this
• 1:30:39
  guy, come on, like I and I think he was talking about Nick
• 1:30:44
  Matthew, but I'm I'm not I I'm not entirely sure.
• 1:30:47
  That might have been Luka. That might have been Luka, but
• 1:30:50
  Yona. Was.
• 1:30:50
  Cool, but Yona, Yona. And he was like, I just don't
• 1:30:54
  understand that one. He's like like that, that that
• 1:30:58
  and dude, dude, he was he was super cool.
• 1:31:01
  John, him and Luca were great. I talked to Luca and I was
• 1:31:04
  surprised at how good that interaction went.
• 1:31:07
  I thought it would go really bad and if you're.
• 1:31:08
  Falling into the trap, you're falling into the the Brian
• 1:31:12
  Friend trap where? You don't start.
• 1:31:14
  Talking to these athletes, John, you're didn't getting too.
• 1:31:17
  Close. No, this is purely off of
• 1:31:19
  performance. If he got second place at Water
• 1:31:21
  Palooza, what would you guys say?
• 1:31:24
  And if if he beat Jameson, if he beat.
• 1:31:26
  Jameson, obviously. Obviously.
• 1:31:30
  Yeah, he's top ten in the open. I know the open doesn't matter,
• 1:31:35
  but the if he if he was. In the open winning Watapalooza
• 1:31:40
  I think. Not winning Watapalooza if he's
• 1:31:43
  second at Watapalooza to James, but beat James in the last
• 1:31:47
  workout. Like say, when's the last
• 1:31:49
  workout? I think Hopper, I think all of
• 1:31:52
  you think the same. Is he above Hopper in this
• 1:31:54
  mountain? Well, he didn't.
• 1:31:56
  He didn't would be he? He would be.
• 1:32:00
  I'm putting this as if he as if he they did the last event
• 1:32:04
  because they all did it to the best of their abilities and he
• 1:32:06
  was the best one. So you have insider knowledge?
• 1:32:08
  The most important thing that you said about Koski is like,
• 1:32:11
  OK, so Hatfield in a slump is what do you get at the games
• 1:32:17
  last year? 5th. 5th so let's put him at
• 1:32:20
  like 10th or 12th. Yeah, that, that those final
• 1:32:24
  events, well. Yeah, no, no, Koski's tie,
• 1:32:26
  Jenkins level. And that's why they're neck and
• 1:32:29
  neck. OK.
• 1:32:31
  Do I think Ty Jenkins makes the biggest jump of anybody next
• 1:32:34
  year? The the oh, I do too, and that's
• 1:32:36
  why he's at where he's at. But when you say the biggest
• 1:32:39
  jump of of ever, you think. What No.
• 1:32:42
  Of of anybody next year. So, but 12th to 10th, 'cause I
• 1:32:45
  don't think he's beating Roman like the top nine are.
• 1:32:49
  So like there's such a gap on the top 9 I.
• 1:32:53
  I think I think he'd be top 8. Ty is going to be against
• 1:33:00
  Colton, Mertens, Tudor Magda dude.
• 1:33:02
  Did you see Taiwan ethics Taiwan Ethics Pro this past weekend?
• 1:33:08
  He. Beat.
• 1:33:09
  He beat Yona, He beat Yona, he beat Nick Matthew.
• 1:33:13
  That's super cool. And he, I mean, he beat them at
• 1:33:17
  Watapaloosa too, but that's why he's at where he's at.
• 1:33:20
  He's on the 2nd row of the mountain.
• 1:33:21
  It's the highest tie he's ever been.
• 1:33:23
  I don't know if Tai's ever been on the mountain.
• 1:33:25
  He's been like. Congratulations, he was on
• 1:33:27
  Rookie Hill. Yeah, he was on Rookie Hill.
• 1:33:29
  I mean, I think he was might have been on the top of Rookie
• 1:33:31
  Hill, but the this I think this is Ty's first time on the
• 1:33:35
  mountain. We're.
• 1:33:36
  Trampling all over. Welcome to the mountains.
• 1:33:38
  Yeah, so I do too. I think top 10 is going to be
• 1:33:42
  top, top. I mean, that 10th spot is going
• 1:33:44
  to be what Ty's fighting for. Anything higher, I would be very
• 1:33:47
  surprised for many of those guys.
• 1:33:48
  I'm. Surprised it took James that
• 1:33:50
  long to figure this out. So.
• 1:33:54
  Explain to me how it's Dream Mountain.
• 1:34:00
  I didn't know everybody hated Yonokoski that much.
• 1:34:03
  No, it's just like it doesn't make sense for you.
• 1:34:07
  It's he. He saw the person he got.
• 1:34:10
  He got too close to the sun too. I.
• 1:34:12
  I was I was the most impressed with that last workout that they
• 1:34:16
  did after you. Talked to him, makes sense.
• 1:34:19
  This is why Brian ranks all the Europeans so high, because he
• 1:34:21
  hangs out with them in person and sees them.
• 1:34:23
  Now that you say that. All right, if you.
• 1:34:26
  Wanna close? Yeah, dude, I gave him a reason
• 1:34:30
  for her. I obviously.
• 1:34:31
  Said this, he was going. To drop off.
• 1:34:33
  A lot of EUR up here. Then let's move on and we'll see
• 1:34:36
  all the. Americans all right, next row.
• 1:34:38
  You guys are ridiculous. Yeah, baby.
• 1:34:40
  Next up, Alex Kazan, Colton Merton's Olivia Curt Sitter,
• 1:34:44
  Austin. Heck, oh, I mean, I don't know
• 1:34:46
  what to do with this. There's five Americans over all
• 1:34:49
  of the freaking European people. Like like get out of here.
• 1:34:52
  I'm sorry, don't be xenophobic. It's just.
• 1:34:55
  One person credit that doesn't live on our continent.
• 1:34:58
  Good grief, I'm going to be done with this.
• 1:35:02
  If y'all are going to be like. I'm I'm serious, there will be
• 1:35:05
  no more mountains. Alex Kazan High, low, perfect.
• 1:35:13
  No potential. Medium.
• 1:35:15
  Yeah, yeah, I like with her, like yes, she can move up.
• 1:35:20
  What has she done to move up? You know, I'm waiting on it.
• 1:35:24
  We see semi finals, she wins the semi finals, she'll probably
• 1:35:26
  move higher. I understand why you went with
• 1:35:28
  her there. I probably would have knocked
• 1:35:30
  her down a peg just because I'm a little bit more.
• 1:35:34
  What's the bad one, bull or bear?
• 1:35:37
  More bearish? I'm more bearish on Gazan, but I
• 1:35:41
  understand. I think Gazan could win the
• 1:35:43
  games. She could, but like I I I tend
• 1:35:48
  to pretend that I know how Games Mountain works and I would I I
• 1:35:52
  think using John's methodology I would have knocked her down and
• 1:35:55
  run. Colton over tie?
• 1:36:01
  Yeah, I mean, I think, I think Colton will finish higher than
• 1:36:05
  tie at the games. So that's the top ten finish.
• 1:36:09
  Yeah, Colton would be my 10th or 11th spot him and tutor.
• 1:36:13
  I would have him and tutor together.
• 1:36:14
  Tutor flourishes in games, programming he.
• 1:36:16
  Was tutor so far. Down.
• 1:36:18
  Well, I'm about to tell you if you calm it down for a minute.
• 1:36:21
  Tutor at the games I think will do better than any other
• 1:36:26
  competition like games programming will suit him more
• 1:36:30
  than semi finals or the open. So it's hard to say.
• 1:36:36
  Like it's hard to put Tudor higher because of how I think he
• 1:36:39
  will do when Colton's just won the open.
• 1:36:42
  Probably will win quarterfinals and I think Colton could also be
• 1:36:47
  top be top 10. Well, I just think he I think
• 1:36:50
  him and Tudor and Ty like I put them all in the same, the same
• 1:36:54
  tier, right. Colton has done the most out of
• 1:36:58
  any of those guys of that tier. Therefore, he is the highest
• 1:37:02
  one. Dude if Colton went on well he
• 1:37:05
  won't win the games. Sorry, I I don't think he'll win
• 1:37:08
  the games, but if he could go open quarter semis.
• 1:37:13
  If Dave, if Dave just like just pissed off that he got blasted
• 1:37:16
  for too many machines and not enough squatting and he just did
• 1:37:20
  no squats like every event and no machines.
• 1:37:23
  You can see it Next up, Roman, Justin, J, Ricky, fine row, all
• 1:37:34
  dudes. I think it makes sense.
• 1:37:35
  It's a manly row right there. If you had to move one person
• 1:37:39
  down, who would it be? I'm.
• 1:37:40
  Going to call this diversity row one person down, probably Roman
• 1:37:46
  I. Agree with that.
• 1:37:50
  Yeah, but who would you replace him?
• 1:37:53
  With Austin would be the one, but because like look, I think
• 1:37:59
  Austin like probably should finish higher than three of the
• 1:38:05
  four of these guys at the games. Then why?
• 1:38:09
  Will he do that? Completely different question.
• 1:38:12
  Got you. Fair enough.
• 1:38:13
  Fair. And he is a history of not
• 1:38:16
  performing up to his potential. What's funny, if Austin just
• 1:38:19
  makes 1 clean at 3:15 on the first lift, in that in the
• 1:38:23
  Wadapalooza, he gets second easily.
• 1:38:26
  Like like he's a tear above everybody easily.
• 1:38:29
  But instead he does what he has done a lot and now he's tied for
• 1:38:34
  third. Like it's just so Austin
• 1:38:36
  probably should be three of the four of these guys.
• 1:38:39
  So you want to replace Roman with Austin Mayhem, Mayhem.
• 1:38:41
  That's fine. Will he?
• 1:38:44
  Completely different story. Fair enough.
• 1:38:47
  Next up, Dallin, Emma Lawson, Jeff Adler.
• 1:38:55
  This is your podium, people. Jeff Adler.
• 1:39:02
  I'm a little surprised by that rebound, dear.
• 1:39:07
  I mean, yeah. I mean, his heart wasn't in at
• 1:39:09
  the games. Everybody saw that.
• 1:39:13
  I just think Jeff Adler is fitter than the people I have
• 1:39:18
  him over. Like just straight up, I think
• 1:39:21
  he's fitter than what he showed. Do you think he's people have
• 1:39:27
  passed him up though? Like he got obviously one in 23,
• 1:39:30
  but he's not continue to progress where other guys have.
• 1:39:35
  Sure, but I think 2023 version of Jeff is a podium at the
• 1:39:41
  games. Really.
• 1:39:45
  I do, yes. I think if you asked because.
• 1:39:49
  He shouldn't have even beaten Roman.
• 1:39:52
  Right, Roman probably should have won, but and people have
• 1:39:56
  passed up Roman I, I, I still think.
• 1:40:01
  His combination, I think if you ask any of the guys on this on
• 1:40:04
  the mountain, any of the other guys, they would say, yeah,
• 1:40:06
  Jeff's probably in contention to podium.
• 1:40:08
  There is a weird sort of like respect or fear of Adler like
• 1:40:13
  they or there is there is speak about him in that way.
• 1:40:16
  And there wouldn't be that if they didn't think that he was
• 1:40:18
  that fit. I did.
• 1:40:19
  It's hard for me to get rid of quarterfinals when he destroyed
• 1:40:25
  everybody last year, last year's quarterfinals or the year
• 1:40:29
  before, sorry, 2024 like, but it was such a gap, first to second.
• 1:40:34
  It was a Fraser like gap and I know that he has that.
• 1:40:39
  It's just will we see it? Not everybody has that and I
• 1:40:46
  know he does have that level of fitness.
• 1:40:48
  I whether he puts it together or not, who knows, you know, semi
• 1:40:52
  finals might happen, quarter finals might happen and he might
• 1:40:54
  drop. But right now, I think he's in
• 1:40:58
  contention to be on the podium. Fair enough next to last row.
• 1:41:04
  Surprised you didn't want to talk about.
• 1:41:07
  Emma, I just don't want to pay attention to it.
• 1:41:11
  I, I can see why you said it. I'm not, I'm not as high up on
• 1:41:22
  her as I would say Alex. You were last year.
• 1:41:25
  What happened? Emma.
• 1:41:27
  Yeah, no, you were the M. Law.
• 1:41:28
  I said Emma was not going to come back.
• 1:41:30
  Oh. That's right, you're the M
• 1:41:32
  Lawson hater. Super high owner per your Alex
• 1:41:35
  Gazin. I'm very high at Emma Lawson.
• 1:41:38
  Right. And that's why I'm saying, like,
• 1:41:40
  I think you're showing your bias here because like, I think Gazan
• 1:41:43
  has it, like, she could easily be up there, but like, Lawson
• 1:41:47
  hasn't proved it in anything we've seen yet.
• 1:41:50
  So I think she has a strength gap.
• 1:41:53
  You got you got to think there's only one girl like there.
• 1:41:57
  If you want to just say girl to girl like it goes Emma and then
• 1:42:01
  Alex. There's four men between them.
• 1:42:03
  I know they're on two different. Roads, there's a big gap.
• 1:42:06
  But it's it's four men between them, right?
• 1:42:09
  So like it still would be Emma Austin, then Alex Kazan, which
• 1:42:13
  is how I think the games will go.
• 1:42:17
  This is good. Stop trying to make leg, Yeah.
• 1:42:22
  Is is Hiller in the he's? In there, I'm just saying you're
• 1:42:27
  not I I per your methodology, I don't think that that it's fair,
• 1:42:31
  but it it's your mountain. Yeah, it's your tapestry.
• 1:42:35
  I. Can't some people I choose to
• 1:42:37
  predict in the future and some people I choose to be like, this
• 1:42:39
  is they've they've they've done enough.
• 1:42:41
  They've done enough to be like, OK, you've earned this spot on
• 1:42:45
  the mountain. I can't.
• 1:42:46
  I can't. I can't say I can't put more
• 1:42:49
  people ahead of you because of what you have done.
• 1:42:52
  Right. I feel like though you gave I
• 1:42:53
  think. People will beat beat them at
• 1:42:55
  the games. I just feel like you gave Alex
• 1:42:56
  the benefit of the doubt so much and now you're like, now you're
• 1:43:02
  down there. I mean, I think she's going to
• 1:43:04
  get third place at the games. How am I not?
• 1:43:06
  I feel like a year ago you would have said that Alex would have
• 1:43:08
  been where where Emma was. I think I would have them on the
• 1:43:13
  same row. I I don't think I've ever
• 1:43:17
  thought that Alex was fitter than Emma Lawson in totality
• 1:43:22
  like at Rogue. I'll take Alex all day, right?
• 1:43:26
  Alex has more home run ability than anybody.
• 1:43:30
  Alex Kazan probably has the most potential out of anybody.
• 1:43:36
  But show me the competition other than Rogue and Emma was
• 1:43:40
  what, 3rd or 4th? Like like.
• 1:43:44
  Yo, she she dropped further back.
• 1:43:46
  Show me the competition that was like games or I don't know,
• 1:43:52
  freaking what just I guess Emma hasn't really competed right so.
• 1:43:56
  Emma was 4th, Alex was second. Like at Rogue where it's just
• 1:44:01
  made for Alex and I just I just when aerobic capacity is your
• 1:44:06
  best thing, I think that you are fitter in general, unless you
• 1:44:12
  have some crazy hole the way Hayley Adams does, right, Like
• 1:44:16
  Emma Lawson doesn't. She's strong enough.
• 1:44:18
  She's very elite in gymnastics in aerobic capacity is her best
• 1:44:22
  thing, right? I I would say the same for Lucy
• 1:44:24
  Campbell. You know, I don't, I know you
• 1:44:26
  said Alex is going to win the games, but we wouldn't argue as
• 1:44:30
  hard between Lucy and Alex. You'd be like, well, you like
• 1:44:33
  Lucy and I like Alex. That would that would be it.
• 1:44:35
  That'd be the argument, right? The same reason I have Lucy at
• 1:44:39
  the top of the women is why I have Emma Lawson ahead of Alice
• 1:44:42
  Kazan, other than the clutch factor that Lucy always has puts
• 1:44:46
  her a little bit above 2. But the Games is always going to
• 1:44:49
  have running a lot. It's always going to have a lot
• 1:44:53
  of aerobic events. It's not just going to be crazy
• 1:44:57
  pulling, crazy pressing, crazy squatting, crazy deadlifting,
• 1:45:00
  the stuff that Alex is phenomenal at.
• 1:45:02
  Don't get me wrong, she could get a really good slate of
• 1:45:06
  programming and then yes, win the games, but it would take
• 1:45:10
  that programming for her to win the games.
• 1:45:13
  I don't, I don't, I think that. I don't think that with Emma
• 1:45:16
  Lawson and Lucy Campbell. OK, Jason Hopper, Lucy Campbell.
• 1:45:23
  I don't think there's anything there.
• 1:45:24
  We know who's at top now. It's so crazy how shaky I am on
• 1:45:28
  Lucy. It's like she always comes
• 1:45:31
  through. It's like you were talking about
• 1:45:32
  gears, John. It's like when everybody,
• 1:45:34
  everybody else is running around with a 6th gear vehicle and for
• 1:45:37
  some reason like she's just got 1/7.
• 1:45:42
  I still like, I would always put her like where Lawson is because
• 1:45:46
  I just like I'm never fully sold after.
• 1:45:50
  The last 12 I know you like months.
• 1:45:53
  Later, what has she not done? Other than World Fitness
• 1:45:56
  project. And if you want to call me a
• 1:46:00
  Homer on Lucy, that's fine. I'll say Yep, I I've been like,
• 1:46:05
  you know, Lucy is like a Hatfield that came through for
• 1:46:08
  for me. Like I feel like, I feel like I
• 1:46:11
  was, I was so much on Lucy like way before everybody else was.
• 1:46:17
  And then like, and then it just she was way better than I
• 1:46:20
  thought she was going to be. And now and now I'm just, I'm on
• 1:46:23
  the train, full stop, right? So if you want to call me a
• 1:46:27
  Homer because of that, I don't care.
• 1:46:29
  I think Lucy Campbell's going to win the games.
• 1:46:31
  I think she's the biggest woman in the world.
• 1:46:33
  On the mid side, James Sprague on top.
• 1:46:38
  I honestly, I'm kind of happy that Hopper didn't get into
• 1:46:41
  Wadapalooza. Why?
• 1:46:44
  Did Mystique. Yes, it goes back to what Hiller
• 1:46:47
  said six months ago or whatever, like.
• 1:46:49
  We don't want to see you work out, dude.
• 1:46:51
  We don't want to see the same people compete over and over
• 1:46:54
  again. Like there's something
• 1:46:55
  interesting about the like where what have you done in the
• 1:47:01
  offseason to get here and are you able to train and get there?
• 1:47:06
  Because I don't want to see you compete over and over and over
• 1:47:08
  and over again. Like, I hope Hopper wins Mayhem
• 1:47:12
  or top three so that we don't have to see him compete against
• 1:47:16
  James somewhere. So they show up at the games and
• 1:47:19
  you're like, OK, who has done the best to get here?
• 1:47:23
  Or I even think if is, is Jeff going to may him?
• 1:47:27
  Yes. So I think somebody like, oh,
• 1:47:30
  who's not going to may him? Dallin, Justin, Jay and Ricky.
• 1:47:36
  OK, if like Adler, it's. Going to be, it's going to be
• 1:47:41
  Jason Adler. It's Jason Adler Colton in
• 1:47:44
  Austin. OK, I I was thinking if if some
• 1:47:47
  like or even Austin like if any of those guys beat James at the
• 1:47:53
  semi finals. Like if say like a Justin, if
• 1:47:56
  Justin beats James and it's like not in the last event, like he's
• 1:48:00
  ahead by 30 points going to the last event.
• 1:48:03
  James tries to close, but Justin just enough to to beat him.
• 1:48:06
  Like that would add to the mystique.
• 1:48:09
  And I think, I think it's James. I think it's James down and
• 1:48:13
  Justin are going to Legends. And there's only two spots.
• 1:48:18
  I think it's only two spots there, I think.
• 1:48:21
  Maybe I, I want anybody but James to win.
• 1:48:25
  James could get second. That's fine.
• 1:48:27
  That's fine. I just want either one of those
• 1:48:30
  two. I want to beat James just to add
• 1:48:32
  to the mystique even more. And then just like guys, it's,
• 1:48:35
  it's not like James's running away.
• 1:48:38
  I do think that James has the opportunity to gap the field a
• 1:48:42
  little bit. It feels like that's happening.
• 1:48:47
  I'm not convinced that it is happening.
• 1:48:49
  But like that's definitely, I will see it when we see it.
• 1:48:52
  But I do think there is a chance that that could happen or James
• 1:48:58
  goes on a next like run of two or three years.
• 1:49:01
  Yeah. There's only two men that
• 1:49:02
  qualify out of Legends and I believe it's James, Dallon and
• 1:49:07
  Justin will all be there. Dude that's going to be a great
• 1:49:10
  semi final. That'll be a semi final, yeah.
• 1:49:13
  That is the mountain. Sprague or Hopper missed an
• 1:49:17
  awesome opportunity. I like what you said sort of
• 1:49:19
  about the mystique and that like Sprague because everybody's just
• 1:49:24
  going to have eyes on Hopper right now, right?
• 1:49:26
  And if he would have not done well at Water Palooza, it would
• 1:49:29
  have heard like not one. It would have like tarnished it
• 1:49:33
  a little bit. I think if James beat him,
• 1:49:35
  everybody would be like James is going to win the games.
• 1:49:37
  Yeah, and so but he missed an opportunity for a killer real
• 1:49:41
  where like if he just wore something dark and like hooded
• 1:49:45
  the whole time, and it's just like James is working out and
• 1:49:47
  then like you pay in and Jason's just watching like super.
• 1:49:50
  Serious dude, if Jason beat James at Water Palooza, yeah, I
• 1:49:55
  think it would have been like the awesomest thing ever for the
• 1:49:59
  like if like as far as like Jason would be like.
• 1:50:02
  But but I mean. You.
• 1:50:03
  You thought you thought you were getting fitter than us.
• 1:50:06
  You know what I mean, My. I want, I want to, I want to
• 1:50:08
  wait, get, wait until July and I want to see them compete against
• 1:50:12
  each other. And yeah, we'll be right back
• 1:50:16
  with some blind rankings. That's it.
• 1:50:36
  Paper Street coffee, Paper St. coffee.com Go head over there
• 1:50:42
  and grab some coffee beans. The the the 50% off sale is no
• 1:50:47
  longer but still. Grab beans, you can still get
• 1:50:49
  some. Coffee.
• 1:50:51
  All right, we got to hurry up. We talked a lot about the
• 1:50:54
  mountain. 10 minutes to to John's chagrin.
• 1:51:00
  All right. Are you bringing back the mantle
• 1:51:03
  mask code spin might still work. You never know if they kept it
• 1:51:07
  or not, if they actually did. It Are we going blind this week
• 1:51:10
  or we're going? We gotta be fast.
• 1:51:12
  We gotta be fast. OK, I got it.
• 1:51:14
  I got. It no.
• 1:51:15
  Mask. No, no, we got it.
• 1:51:17
  We got it. Mask it up all right.
• 1:51:19
  It's so much more fun with Matt. We got it.
• 1:51:20
  We got it. We're going to go Super Bass.
• 1:51:21
  I got it. All right, Manta manta sleep.com
• 1:51:24
  code spin may or may not work. It's worth a shot.
• 1:51:27
  I got this. All right.
• 1:51:31
  On April, mid-april, there's going to be ATV show that's
• 1:51:35
  going to be rebooted on Amazon. Danny Spiegel will be on
• 1:51:41
  American Gladiators. It is our turn to name Danny
• 1:51:45
  Spiegel. And you've already named her.
• 1:51:48
  Oh Spiegel. Gladiator names.
• 1:51:50
  Yeah, what is Danny Spiegel's Gladiator name going to be?
• 1:51:53
  I've got five options here. I don't know if we can blind do
• 1:51:57
  this. All right, go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:51:58
  We'll see what the first one's like, and then we might take the
• 1:52:00
  blindfold off. Here we go, first one.
• 1:52:06
  OK. One fold off 1 fold.
• 1:52:09
  Off. You're good.
• 1:52:09
  You're good. Jupiter's biggest moon.
• 1:52:13
  Titan. You thought that wasn't going to
• 1:52:16
  work. Spin.
• 1:52:17
  Let's go. Tyler, yeah.
• 1:52:20
  Where are we? Where are we putting Titan I
• 1:52:23
  mean. I like it.
• 1:52:24
  Three. Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:52:25
  We can make that a benchmark. It's not very like you can name
• 1:52:28
  anybody Titan. It's not clever, but yeah, yeah,
• 1:52:30
  yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's didn't she win the Titan
• 1:52:32
  games? Yeah, never mind.
• 1:52:36
  Great pool spin. All right, Next up, Danny
• 1:52:40
  Spiegel is the American Gladiator Eater.
• 1:52:43
  OK, this happened in the Philippines in 2004 and it
• 1:52:50
  killed so many people a big. Tsunami.
• 1:52:55
  OK. But it's like another name for
• 1:52:57
  that, like a storm. Wave.
• 1:53:01
  You're all over the place, you're all over it.
• 1:53:04
  What's the day after Sunday? Monday monsoon.
• 1:53:08
  Bam. There it is.
• 1:53:10
  We're. Putting monsoon, I don't, I
• 1:53:11
  don't care for that 15. Yeah, 50 OK spins like getting
• 1:53:16
  hurt by his names he made. Them.
• 1:53:18
  I'm sorry. Yeah, that was mean.
• 1:53:19
  I'm sorry. That was a beautiful name spin,
• 1:53:21
  but it's fine. OK.
• 1:53:23
  All right. Next one up, Danny Spiegel's
• 1:53:27
  Gladiator name. Oh, I don't even know how to do
• 1:53:31
  OK. Blank predator.
• 1:53:34
  The best one. Blank predator.
• 1:53:37
  He is an blank predator. Apex.
• 1:53:43
  There we go. Good, good.
• 1:53:45
  I like 2 for this one. I would say 4.
• 1:53:48
  Really. Yeah, I just, I feel like it's
• 1:53:51
  like Titan. If these are going to be 1
• 1:53:55
  words, I like Titan better and I wish we would have put it at
• 1:53:57
  one. I still like Apex at 2:00.
• 1:54:00
  All right out for the sake of the game.
• 1:54:01
  I'll just it's got X in it and people love that letter and it's
• 1:54:04
  just going to call. That I really want it to be 4.
• 1:54:10
  All right. You got one in four left.
• 1:54:13
  Here we go. Danny Spiegel.
• 1:54:20
  OK. All right.
• 1:54:23
  OK, OK, Jewish people worship in a oh.
• 1:54:30
  God Synagogue. Another word.
• 1:54:35
  Ma, it's not mosque. Your body is a.
• 1:54:38
  Chapel. Your body is not a Chapel.
• 1:54:41
  Your body is a. Wonderland.
• 1:54:47
  Like in the Bible, your body is a OK, OK, OK.
• 1:54:53
  Church. Shoot, I don't know how to do
• 1:54:58
  this. You know that game when you had
• 1:55:01
  the runner and he ran through like?
• 1:55:03
  Maze Runner. Yeah, it's kind of like that,
• 1:55:07
  but it's it's like blank runner. It's like blank runner.
• 1:55:13
  I don't know how to get to this. I I, I got it.
• 1:55:16
  I got it. I got it.
• 1:55:17
  I got it. I got it.
• 1:55:20
  When it's 87° outside, that is the.
• 1:55:26
  Summer. No, no dude, dude, I'm taking
• 1:55:29
  the blank right? How?
• 1:55:31
  What? How hot is it?
• 1:55:32
  The blank is temperature. OK, the 1st 4 letters of that.
• 1:55:36
  Temp. And now add 3 more letters.
• 1:55:41
  Temple. Got it.
• 1:55:42
  Sorry I. Don't know the word not temple.
• 1:55:45
  That's just I was trying to get the temp that way.
• 1:55:47
  All right, Central time zone. What's the other time zone?
• 1:55:51
  What? Yes, OK.
• 1:55:54
  Yes, yes, yes, yes. First 3 letters of that.
• 1:55:59
  Yes. Go ahead.
• 1:56:03
  How do you abbreviate Eastern? EST.
• 1:56:06
  OK, now put those two things together.
• 1:56:08
  Tempest. Bam.
• 1:56:10
  That was so hard that that word was really.
• 1:56:13
  Hard. Your body.
• 1:56:15
  Your body is a temple, OK? Yes, your body is a temple,
• 1:56:18
  Tyler. Yes, it's a common. 1st.
• 1:56:21
  It's the most temp templest temple I.
• 1:56:24
  Hate. I hate it all.
• 1:56:25
  I want that. 15 just for. 11. No, let's.
• 1:56:29
  Let's it's the most arm brand. Let's.
• 1:56:32
  Get the definition of Tempest is a violent, windy storm.
• 1:56:36
  See. It's not what you think it is.
• 1:56:38
  Let's go 4. Yeah, I want temptress.
• 1:56:40
  There, there you. Go.
• 1:56:41
  Yeah, yeah, Mistress. Let's just go for it all, John.
• 1:56:46
  Last one. Let's do it.
• 1:56:47
  This is dumb idea. Here we go.
• 1:56:50
  This. Is I think it's going to be the
• 1:56:51
  best one. I think he might have won.
• 1:56:54
  Honestly, I think he might have won.
• 1:56:55
  Here we go. Last one, Danny Spiegel's glad
• 1:56:58
  to hear her name is. An ambulance when it makes the
• 1:57:03
  noise, what's going on? Siren it.
• 1:57:07
  Is. Siren's great, actually.
• 1:57:11
  Yeah, I think we did great. Siren, Apex Titan, Tempest,
• 1:57:17
  Monsoon. Yeah, this is perfect.
• 1:57:19
  We didn't murdered it. It's a good.
• 1:57:20
  List, I think. I think she'll either be Titan
• 1:57:23
  or Siren, but I have no idea. And then we need to wrap it up
• 1:57:29
  real quick. But we cannot forget Ilsa Boink.
• 1:57:34
  That's not her last name, just for so people know.
• 1:57:36
  Oh, I read that somewhere. Ilsa Boivink got a four year
• 1:57:44
  sanction for. John timeout.
• 1:57:49
  John does say it like what's his face from American gangster?
• 1:57:57
  Somebody called ambulance. How do you How do you say it?
• 1:58:01
  Ambulance, ambulance, ambulance. Ambulance.
• 1:58:05
  Ambulance. This is the one, am I?
• 1:58:07
  Do I really sound like that ambulance?
• 1:58:09
  Ambulance. There's no way I.
• 1:58:12
  Saw you kind of did. We'll play it back for you,
• 1:58:18
  Elsa, for your sanction for admitting that she doctored a
• 1:58:23
  video and also when CrossFit asked, hey, show us the weights
• 1:58:30
  you used, she showed the not the same weights that she used in
• 1:58:33
  the video. And I was surprised that you
• 1:58:37
  looked through the comments and people were saying why four
• 1:58:41
  years like people are saying. Two years is pretty pretty.
• 1:58:45
  Four years is pretty crazy. Like the?
• 1:58:47
  Really. I mean, like, it is a capital
• 1:58:50
  offense. Seriously.
• 1:58:52
  Admitting it. Her admitting it makes people
• 1:58:54
  want to be two years instead of her not admitting it.
• 1:58:57
  Yeah, the judge needs to get the call on.
• 1:58:59
  That you know what I mean? Like that That she admitted it.
• 1:59:03
  I will say I think people did maybe because of what happened
• 1:59:06
  with kale last year, like they're just happy to see
• 1:59:08
  somebody like fess up to. Yeah, and she'll be remembers
• 1:59:12
  running far less, far less than Kale.
• 1:59:14
  Yes. Because really.
• 1:59:17
  But you really? Think 2 years, Tyler.
• 1:59:20
  I'm, I'm OK, I, it is, it is kind of like we don't have like
• 1:59:24
  rules for this sort of thing. I mean, like the fact that she
• 1:59:30
  acknowledged it or or you know, kind of came out about it.
• 1:59:35
  Now she kind of half heartedly admitted it, but.
• 1:59:38
  Yeah, she she didn't agree to all the offenses, but you know,
• 1:59:44
  it's really tough. Like she did a really hard
• 1:59:46
  number one shouldn't have done what she did.
• 1:59:48
  But then like to admit like something that you like really
• 1:59:52
  did bad. Like that's, that's a hard thing
• 1:59:53
  to do. It is like.
• 1:59:55
  It's even harder to like quadruple down on it, but then
• 1:59:58
  to, you know. But I just feel bad for the
• 2:00:00
  coach who was like. Dude, I don't believe that he
• 2:00:03
  didn't know for a second. I don't either.
• 2:00:06
  Maybe. And maybe he didn't.
• 2:00:07
  And she goes, hey, he didn't know.
• 2:00:11
  Just so people know. I think he was like, hey, if you
• 2:00:14
  want me to keep coaching you, you have to say this like.
• 2:00:17
  I think it's I think it's crazy that like, did you not watch the
• 2:00:23
  video? Like you would know what the
• 2:00:24
  time was? I guess you.
• 2:00:26
  You would hear that boyfriend was.
• 2:00:27
  Doing it. Dude, you hear that time?
• 2:00:29
  You're like, oh, you're the best in the world.
• 2:00:32
  I'm just not going to watch the video.
• 2:00:34
  I'm like, well, I mean. Let me man, your burpees are
• 2:00:37
  looking great, right? Now let me make.
• 2:00:39
  Sure. Like like all this happens all
• 2:00:42
  the time. Like I'll get a score that it's
• 2:00:43
  like a games level score from one of my people and I'm like,
• 2:00:47
  I'm like. Hillary fit.
• 2:00:48
  But what did you do? Like tell me time.
• 2:00:51
  Tell me how the workout went. Like how?
• 2:00:53
  Just walk me through it. Right like that we know of
• 2:00:55
  Tyler. It's not even that I don't
• 2:00:57
  believe. Well, I don't believe them, but
• 2:00:58
  I don't say that I don't believe them.
• 2:01:00
  I'm just like, walk me through the workout, walk me through
• 2:01:02
  what you did. And it's it's completely wrong.
• 2:01:04
  And then it'll come out then yeah.
• 2:01:06
  Oh, you're not a games athlete. And.
• 2:01:10
  It's I made-up for it by the way, Spin.
• 2:01:12
  Yeah. There there was a workout with
• 2:01:16
  dumbbell carries, farmers carries and I completely did it
• 2:01:20
  the wrong way. I did it like way longer than it
• 2:01:23
  should have been so. OK, that doesn't count.
• 2:01:27
  Yeah, I don't. She actually hired APR person
• 2:01:30
  too. Well, she didn't she didn't pay
• 2:01:33
  on there. It sounded like they were
• 2:01:34
  friends or something. If she's telling the truth on
• 2:01:37
  that, that's the crazy thing is like, I don't know what to
• 2:01:39
  believe anymore. But like two years like that
• 2:01:43
  sucks. Four years seems kind of crazy.
• 2:01:49
  My argument against that though is the penalty is not just for
• 2:01:54
  Ilsa, the penalty is to deter others from doing it.
• 2:02:00
  And as we get further and further along of being able to
• 2:02:03
  do stuff to doctor videos. But we already saw Hiller do
• 2:02:09
  like whatever how many hundreds of burpees with like in record
• 2:02:12
  time a year ago. We, we are past the point.
• 2:02:17
  Like it's crazy that it's not being talked about.
• 2:02:20
  But like when I watched that, I was like, I can edit this video
• 2:02:25
  to where I you wouldn't know, you know what I mean?
• 2:02:30
  Right. She didn't modulate.
• 2:02:31
  Like if she wanted to get really crazy about it, she should have
• 2:02:34
  modulated it to where when she dropped the barbell she slowed
• 2:02:37
  it down to where the barbell dropped on time.
• 2:02:38
  All right, Tyler, we're not going to tell people how to
• 2:02:40
  cheat. They're going to figure it out.
• 2:02:42
  And then like she cropped like she didn't.
• 2:02:45
  Crop too big of an area. Yeah, it was too big of an area
• 2:02:47
  like you only like Hillary did it better.
• 2:02:49
  Cap. Cut doesn't have very good
• 2:02:50
  options though. You got to get on your on your
• 2:02:53
  laptop, but like you can you can get way better editing to where
• 2:02:59
  you wouldn't have known. And then like, I don't know if
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  they did this, but like the voice over work, like they got
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  late that voice over. Work was crazy.
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  He stood like right here and he's like 123 as opposed to like
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  going across the room and. Trying to match and talking
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  differently and then like, yeah. Like, you have to try to do
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  that. If you're going to cheat, cheat.
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  Good. That's the thing.
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  That's always been my thing about bank robbers and stuff.
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  They're so lazy. It's like.
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  That's where we're going with this.
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  Plan, plan this stuff out and like, do it.
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  If you're going to cheat, do it well.
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  But The thing is, it's like she was capable of putting up a
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  really good score. There was no there was no real
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  purpose in cheating other than like, clout.
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  I think she really wanted to be #1 in the Netherlands, she was
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  like #3 or not number 5 or something after the second
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  workout. But she denied cheating in the
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  first workout and I think she did that too.
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  I think the whole thing is bad, but I.
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  Just think as as things get progress and the ability to
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  doctor a video gets easier and easier and easier.
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  Like you've got to make it tough enough that people go.
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  But if I get caught, I'm out four years.
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  If it's just two years, you're like, that's worth the risk.
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  Like, I bet I can pass this. But four years is like, maybe
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  not. So yeah, agreed.
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  But again, I think we're past the point of no return.
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  Like we're getting into the into the place now where it's like we
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  kind of just need to do in person.
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  Because I I thought about filming a workout, 2 workouts, 1
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  where I really did it and one where I didn't really do it and
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  it just added it to where it was like there was no way you could
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  tell. Because I think you can do that.
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  Well The thing is if she had done 5% and just shown her video
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  or her weights with that. Right, she would have the.
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  First time she would have been fine.
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  Yeah. And like, I don't think 345
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  percent is going to get you caught.
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  Like, she's probably very obviously fit, like to get close
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  to finishing another time. Cap is still great and you could
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  easily do that. And now with quarterfinals is
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  the way they are, you could easily do that.
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  Again, do your work out. You know, I need 15% or
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  whatever, 12% to be the top. I'll just do 5%.
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  I can guarantee myself I'm going to be high enough to get through
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  to a certain spot. I think she's fitter than Kale.
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  100% that's the other part of this too, that it's like.
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  Kale's cheating was way more egregious.
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  It was so egregious, it was just a bold faced lie.
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  I think we should get Kale, Ilsa, Trevor Bachmeier or
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  whatever he's doing now. Have a cheat off.
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  And just yeah, yeah. And just have like the cheater
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  games and. Who can?
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  Who can cheat the best? And they all have to submit
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  videos and Haylor is the judge and if he can find what you did,
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  then you get axed. But if he can't find what you
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  did like, let's make them better at what they do.
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  Yeah, that's. Those are the those are the the
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  open workout videos, you know that people makes like how to
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  approach it. How to edit that?
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  That was just steroids though, that's different.
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  Yeah, steroids is different. That's different.
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  Yeah. It isn't.
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  It isn't. There were plenty of people,
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  though, years ago where the open was like, yeah, you got weeded
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  out very quickly at regionals. I will.
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  I will end up yeah. They're just, they're just lies.
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  They're crazy, just lies. I will say I will end with this,
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  though. I do think it's interesting how
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  people got mad at Hiller and then also me for calling out
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  reps I picked up. I picked up the most egregious
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  ones, right? Hitler did what he does and he
• 2:07:00
  finds all of them. And it's like, oh, how dare you?
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  Who cares? Why are we doing all this?
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  You're shaming somebody's daughter or whatever mother and
• 2:07:08
  all this crap. Now you go look at the comments
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  after he did the investigative work, got her to admit to it's
• 2:07:15
  like Hitler's saving CrossFit. Hitler is the greatest.
• 2:07:18
  Like, look at what he's doing. And it's like, really?
• 2:07:21
  People are flighty dude. They they don't it's.
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  Yeah. And the comments are insane.
• 2:07:28
  People just want to be upset about something.
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  So next week we'll be back and we'll have answers to
• 2:07:35
  quarterfinals and we can probably start looking at who we
• 2:07:38
  might see it, Cindy Crown. So until next week, go do some
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  quarterfinal workouts starting on Thursday.