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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Sorry about the little detour
- 0:05yesterday. Yesterday, I believe what I put
- 0:09up was a there was a quick AQ and answer session with someone
- 0:15I met recently because I joined the APVA as the Association of
- 0:20professional Podcasters and voice actors or something.
- 0:24So it's this international body. So they have branches in I think
- 0:30Zimbabwe, South Africa, Kenya had their Hangouts recently.
- 0:33So there was the Abuja hangout. I think that was maybe two weeks
- 0:37back. So I've been getting to know
- 0:38other podcasters and other people in the community.
- 0:41And so Tony Doe, one of the members of the community,
- 0:45reached out for people who wanted to feature on this
- 0:47podcast. And so the recording that you
- 0:51guys got yesterday was essentially AQ and a session.
- 0:54Well, he had sent in the questions via e-mail and then we
- 0:59me and another chap, we recorded the responses.
- 1:02And so that is what I shared yesterday.
- 1:04So sorry about that Detour. And today we're back with the
- 1:08regular business content and we are taking up from the yeah,
- 1:12customer relationship management.
- 1:14OK, Yes. So that's what we have been
- 1:15discussing before the detour, customer relationship
- 1:18management. What does that mean and why is
- 1:20it important? And so I think two or three days
- 1:25back had gone into the theory of defining customer relationship
- 1:30management, broke down a couple of definitions.
- 1:34What does the customer mean? What are CRM tools?
- 1:37You know, stuff like that. So this is your first time of
- 1:39listening to the show. Then for this thing to have
- 1:41greater clarity for you to appreciate the full context,
- 1:45then you have to go back to episodes and you'll get caught
- 1:48up to speed. So today we're going to look at
- 1:50specific examples of calendars or Diaries or reminder systems
- 1:55or note taking systems or you know, whatever it is that you
- 2:00can use so you don't forget anything.
- 2:02And that way you're able to keep your customer relationships on
- 2:05track. Why is this important?
- 2:07Just skip back to two episodes and you get caught up to speed.
- 2:10Summary. It's important because if you
- 2:12don't have something for tracking activities,
- 2:16relationships, obligations, expectations, then you're going
- 2:20to drop. Lots of things are going to fall
- 2:23by the wayside and you're going to end up losing lots of money.
- 2:26You will lose lots of money because your follow up is going
- 2:28to be crap. Your follow up is going to be
- 2:30poor and with poor follow up you're going to close less
- 2:33deals. And then there are times that
- 2:35some obligations are going to be due on your own end, and if
- 2:38you're not tracking them and things fall through the cracks,
- 2:42then your customers are going to end up really, really unhappy
- 2:45with you. And that doesn't help for repeat
- 2:47business and referral because remember, we're trying to
- 2:51maximize customer lifetime value.
- 2:53If a lot of this sounds like Greek, skip back two episodes.
- 2:56You'll get the whole gist. So when we came to defining CRM
- 3:03tools, customer relationship management tools, what I tried
- 3:07to highlight then for those of you who listened to the episode,
- 3:10Please remember I was trying to stress that is not about the
- 3:12tools per SE, but it's about the functions, which is the reason
- 3:16why I often talk about on the podcast.
- 3:18I talk about calendars or Diaries or reminder systems or
- 3:23note taking systems or task organization systems or
- 3:28whatever, because it's about the function, not necessarily the
- 3:30tool, at least in the beginning. So eventually, when you make a
- 3:35bit of money, would make sense to go and pay for HubSpot or pay
- 3:38for Zoho or pay for Salesforce or pay for other CRM tools that
- 3:44are out there. But now in the early days, when
- 3:46it's just you and your wife, you and your boyfriend, you and your
- 3:50business partners, you and your associates, there's about three
- 3:53or four of you. There are some simple tools that
- 3:55you can use to get the job done. And today's episode is going to
- 3:59be devoted to examining, sorry, excuse me, examining some of
- 4:03those tools now. First off, let's start with
- 4:05paper Diaries and files. For those of you who have a
- 4:08legal background like I do, you'll be familiar with this.
- 4:12For those of you who have a medical background like I don't
- 4:14have you, of course, you'll be familiar with it because it is
- 4:17old school Nigerian in these professions to have paper
- 4:22Diaries and to have files. So this is how it used to work
- 4:26back in the good old days when it came to legal.
- 4:28By the way, I'm sure that things have moved on since 2006 when I
- 4:32graduated from OAU with my legal degree.
- 4:37I'm sure that things have changed and doctors all do
- 4:41things. Sorry, not doctors and lawyers
- 4:44all all do things digital and computerized now.
- 4:46But back in the good old days, this is how it used to work.
- 4:49You would have a clan consultation.
- 4:51OK, well, I was a brand new lawyer, so actually it wasn't me
- 4:53having a clan consultation per SE.
- 4:55My boss would have a clan consultation.
- 4:57Maybe once in a while he would send me to confirm a couple of
- 4:59things. But The thing is, a clan
- 5:01consultation would happen whether it was your boss, the
- 5:05chief lawyer doing it, or whether you were being sent out
- 5:07on behalf of the firm. Now, some notes would have to be
- 5:11taken because the client is going to say a bunch of stuff
- 5:14now. Oh, OK, Lawyer welcome.
- 5:15Sit down about this matter. This is what happened.
- 5:19I was talking to this person. This person said this.
- 5:21That person said that. I got angry.
- 5:23And then we did this. Then we went to Chief Odogu's
- 5:26house, and then we came back. And then, you know, that's
- 5:29basically the person just sitting down and telling stories
- 5:30for two hours. But The thing is, as the lawyer,
- 5:34you are the one who has to be sharp enough, descending enough
- 5:37to be able to figure out like, OK, of the things that this
- 5:40person has said so far, these are the key facts.
- 5:43These are the important things that we ought to pay attention
- 5:45to. These are the avenues from where
- 5:49the legal dispute must have arisen.
- 5:51These are the obligations that were due, you know, those sorts
- 5:53of things. So those are the sorts of things
- 5:55that someone like me who was a junior counsel would be taking
- 5:58notes. So you'd have a legal pad or
- 6:01whatever and you just start taking some notes, you know,
- 6:03blah, blah, blah. You know the whole thing of the
- 6:06whole story that the person is saying you take the important
- 6:08notes. Now, after that client
- 6:10consultation, you guys would head back to the office.
- 6:14And of course, during that client consultation, the thing I
- 6:16would have been writing in would have been my own personal file
- 6:19as a junior lawyer. So we'll go back to the general
- 6:23office. It would be my responsibility to
- 6:26take my own small file, or my small jotter, or my small diary,
- 6:31and then endorse the larger office file or larger office,
- 6:38whatever it is that the firm has.
- 6:39Because even though I'm the one who went for the client
- 6:44consultation, things have to be done in such a way that any
- 6:47other lawyer in the office would be able to pick up the file,
- 6:50open to a couple of pages, open to the diary and see that OK,
- 6:54with this client, this meeting was had, this is where we are
- 6:57and this is what the next step is going to be.
- 6:59Because I might go and leave, I might be sacked, I might decide
- 7:03to Jack back. I mean, you never know or Jack
- 7:06back. That's Nigerian immigration,
- 7:07particularly to Canada. So that's the reason why back in
- 7:11the good old days, relatively speaking, because I'm sure
- 7:15there's some people that have been lawyers since the 1950s,
- 7:18but I graduated just recently, 2006.
- 7:21So back then there was lots of paperwork, lots of handwriting
- 7:25that had to be done. And so that is how things
- 7:28worked. So once I endorsed the larger
- 7:31file, and for those of you who are paralegals and junior
- 7:33lawyers, you both, you all went through this.
- 7:36What would I call it, you guys, right through the same
- 7:41indoctrination or the same whatever.
- 7:43So we all did it. Then you entered the next
- 7:47engagement into the other office diary.
- 7:49And so like I said, other lawyers can now see who you met,
- 7:53what was discussed, items you agreed upon as next step, when
- 7:57those next steps are due and all those things.
- 7:59So that was how official interactions within the law firm
- 8:03back in 2006 would be managed correctly and nothing would get
- 8:07left to chance. So you can see that paper and
- 8:10pen can work, paper file, paper Diaries, whatever, it can work.
- 8:17And there are industries in Nigeria or sectors or trades
- 8:21that used to do that. I've been out of legal for a
- 8:23while, so I'm not sure how it works right now.
- 8:26But judging with how things have changed with medical because
- 8:30back in 2006, I would say it was the same thing in Nigeria.
- 8:33Anyway, Please remember all the things I'm saying.
- 8:35I mean for now, Nigeria specific in the cultural sense.
- 8:38So I don't know about how things used to be 2006 in the UK or in
- 8:44most cities in America or in Australia or in Nigeria.
- 8:47That's how it used to be. So medical, yes, back then you
- 8:50would sit down the the doctor would have a pen and write out
- 8:53the oh, OK, 26 year old came in, she has a headache, she has a
- 8:59hemorrhage on the lower left tibia and she has something,
- 9:02something, something, you know, the write all those things down.
- 9:04But now I've noticed that all the hospitals are entering into
- 9:08everything is all computed up. So doctors are Clackity clack on
- 9:11the keyboard writing everything down but long and short.
- 9:15What I'm trying to say is when we're trying to manage customer
- 9:18relationships and we're trying to keep track of who we're
- 9:20talking to, what stage of the relationship are we at?
- 9:23What do they owe us? What do we owe them?
- 9:25Who should I be following up on paper and diary can still work
- 9:29because old school legal profession, old school medical,
- 9:32that's how they used to do stuff.
- 9:36So now the problem that some people have with it and there's
- 9:39the question is this high tech? And my response always is, does
- 9:44it have to be high tech? Because there's a wedding
- 9:46planner that I spoke with and I think that was a main thing like
- 9:50this thing is not high tech. But then that's my response
- 9:52like, does it have to be high tech?
- 9:54Why not just start with what is comfortable, what is available,
- 9:57what you can easily train people on what will work for your
- 10:00business now and then maybe later on, try the high tech
- 10:03thing because as a wedding planner, if you're think you
- 10:06want to be for thinking and or what not and you want to get
- 10:09some fancy CRM. But I mean, The thing is, look
- 10:12at the culture, Look at the time where we are, look at the staff
- 10:15that you have. Is this something that they're
- 10:17going to use? So I'm not saying everybody
- 10:20should get your pen and papers and Diaries and paper files.
- 10:23I'm not advocating for the use of paper.
- 10:25I'm just saying that it's not such a problem with you guys are
- 10:28starting out with paper. Paper does have some drawbacks,
- 10:30but we'll get to that eventually.
- 10:32So it doesn't have to be tight high tech.
- 10:34Start with work works and give it a try because if you are
- 10:38doing nothing for now, this will help you increase your profits.
- 10:42Please note that is what I'm driving at right now.
- 10:44Some of you are doing nothing. You wake up every day and you're
- 10:48just freestyling. You try and remember from the
- 10:50top of your head. Now last week I saw Odogo and I
- 10:53saw Ajia Halima, so maybe I should follow up with them this
- 10:56week. You're running things from
- 10:57memory. You might have forgotten that
- 10:59apart from Odogo and Ajia Halima, you also saw Otumba
- 11:04Benga but you forgot about Banga.
- 11:06You follow up on these two. You end up missing on Bangas
- 11:08business. So for someone who is
- 11:10freestyling now and you start doing paper pen, diary folders,
- 11:19you see things fall out of the cracks less you end up making
- 11:23much more money then. So there's paper Diaries and
- 11:26files. Now back to my wedding planner
- 11:29friend when we're having this conversation, there's online
- 11:32cloud based, which is what she was trying to do for her own
- 11:35wedding planning practice using free things in the Google,
- 11:39Google Suite. But back then it wasn't called
- 11:41Google Suite. It was just Google and all these
- 11:44things were separate and stand alone.
- 11:46So what she was trying to do at the time was this, which is also
- 11:49a workable solution that after the client meeting, someone
- 11:54would take notes and then store it in Google Docs.
- 11:56So instead of writing it in the office file, somebody would type
- 12:00it into Google Docs under the client's name.
- 12:02So let's say you met with Madam. Let me see Madam OK, Madam BC,
- 12:09Let's say Madam B CS daughter is getting married.
- 12:11You had a meeting with Madam BC. Then there would be a file
- 12:14labeled Madam BC. So that after each meeting, but
- 12:19the file, Madam BC would be endorsed with the records of all
- 12:22the things that were discussed, the ideas that people want to
- 12:24try out, and then things like that.
- 12:26Then when you're done with that, the next follow up date, you
- 12:29would schedule the client's name or the documents name in the
- 12:33Google Calendar. So that all you have to do is
- 12:35when you guys wake up and you see on Google Calendar something
- 12:39that says Madam BC Whoever is in the office back then, whoever is
- 12:44in the office then in the wedding planning business, all
- 12:48the person has to do is open that file, Madam Busy, read
- 12:52through it. And then they will see at the
- 12:53end that oh, OK, a meeting has been scheduled for Madam Busy
- 12:57for next week Wednesday. And you people are supposed to
- 13:00go over samples for which kind of table napkins she likes or
- 13:04you know, stuff like that. And then you get the show on the
- 13:07road. So that's how it works.
- 13:09It's the same paper file diary idea, but it's now done online.
- 13:16And the advantage of this, and I can testify to this actually,
- 13:21because even though I started off doing Diaries and pen and
- 13:24paper, I was notoriously forgetting my diary, my pencil
- 13:27and my paper. I show for the client meeting.
- 13:29I was like, I can't believe this.
- 13:31I drove all the way here. I forgot to bring my diary.
- 13:34And now start wondering, OK, how am I going to keep track of all
- 13:37the things that we talk about? So the main advantage of this is
- 13:40if someone forgets the physical file, yeah, it's not a problem
- 13:42because you can access your material anywhere and anytime as
- 13:47long as somebody has a phone or somebody has a computer.
- 13:51Now the other options that you can use to track customer
- 13:55interactions, track customer relationships, to track all
- 13:58these sorts of things. There are some people that use
- 14:01Excel sheets. I must admit there are only two
- 14:05instances where I've seen this. One was also a wedding planner
- 14:08based in Abuja. That's my good friend Manny of
- 14:11Sculptors Wedding events. I don't know what they do now,
- 14:14but back when we used to do a lot of work together, maybe some
- 14:19actually we haven't worked together, maybe like, you know,
- 14:21for five years, I'd say. So back then they had an Excel
- 14:25sheet. The tabs would be like the main,
- 14:28the first list would be the list of everybody.
- 14:31The first tab would be the list of everybody that they met at
- 14:33the bridal show. Then the following tabs would be
- 14:37for those of you who use Excel, you know what it is I'm talking
- 14:39about. But if you don't use Excel
- 14:41'cause I would like describe it, that was a tab.
- 14:45OK, let me just pretend that everybody knows what Excel is.
- 14:48So the individual tabs as follow will be the names of customers
- 14:52and then all the details will be there in Excel.
- 14:54So you'll be able to go in and then search and all those sorts
- 14:57of things. Personally, I thought it was
- 14:59cumbersome, but you know my own attitude on these things.
- 15:02If it is what works for you guys, everybody in the team
- 15:05understands, everybody in the team has been using it for
- 15:07several years, then you know what's a problem.
- 15:09So yeah, that's it. Now, apart from Excel sheet.
- 15:14Oh yeah. The second situation was my
- 15:16brother. That's in the family export
- 15:18business that we run now. My brother is a, comparatively
- 15:22speaking, in our family. He's sort of like a numbers
- 15:24geek. He's a quant.
- 15:26He's a, he's a yeah, quantitative person like my wife
- 15:29as well. So he used to excel up all kinds
- 15:33of things and I thought it was crap until one day when we were
- 15:37analysing where our revenues are coming from and things like
- 15:39that. And I thought it was pretty cool
- 15:41that in one app we could look and see details about particular
- 15:45clients and know what's supposed to do next.
- 15:47But then we could also enter some kind of function.
- 15:50And then next thing you see how much of your profits are coming
- 15:53from here or how many, what's the percentage of your inquiries
- 15:56that are coming from this place And Excel, wonderful tool.
- 15:59That's for those of you who are math inclined.
- 16:02So, yeah, so that's the Excel. But I have been making a lot of
- 16:06noise about using your mobile phone to serve these functions
- 16:10precisely because now everybody has a smart phone in their
- 16:14pocket. So this is actually something
- 16:17that can work because everybody has one and nobody has the old
- 16:22Nokia 33 six, you know, those analogue, you know.
- 16:26OK, well, wasn't analogue, was it?
- 16:27Yeah, analogue. The Nokia 3610, the one that you
- 16:32play Snake on and things like that.
- 16:34And then the Nokia 1100, the one that had the light bulb on top,
- 16:38that was a wonderful phone. The battery could last for one
- 16:41whole week. I mean, that was the best phone
- 16:43I ever had. Wonderful phone.
- 16:45So now we all have mobile phones with that have different
- 16:50functions. It has no taking functions.
- 16:53It has calendar functions, reminder functions, I mean all
- 16:56kinds of functions. Wonderful.
- 16:58And you can use a mobile phone, you can access the Google suite
- 17:04or you can use the the ones that are native to the phone.
- 17:06Like I use a Xiaomi 13 C and I've noticed that the Jiaomi has
- 17:11its own calendar, its own note taking functions, you know, all
- 17:14those sorts of things. Although I stick to the Google
- 17:16suite because in theory, if my phone gets stolen or missing, I
- 17:20want to be able to buy another Android phone.
- 17:23Just sign in and then everything is exactly where I left it.
- 17:27Now let us see how all of this works so that you guys can
- 17:31appreciate why having some sort of ACRM tool is important to
- 17:37getting your business objectives going.
- 17:40So let's say you want to raise funds and then you visit Odoku
- 17:45Malay because you want to get a $1000 investment.
- 17:49At the time of recording this podcast episode on 26th of May,
- 17:52if you raise $1000 for your investment, that is currently
- 17:551.468 million naira. Yes, that is the state of our
- 18:01forex nowadays. But anyway, who's to complain if
- 18:05you're able to get $1000? It might be chicken change for
- 18:08the investor, but for us that is 1.46, basically 1.5 million
- 18:12naira. And so you want to raise the
- 18:15funds because you have an idea for fisheries.
- 18:17So you discuss your fisheries idea with Odogo Malay, but
- 18:21unfortunately you didn't do your research ahead of time.
- 18:24And MODOK, Odogo Malay is only comfortable with the textile
- 18:27industry because that is how he has made his millions and
- 18:29billions from buying Ankara in Sweden or whatever and importing
- 18:35it to Nigeria and then selling to to distributors and
- 18:41wholesalers. So let's say that's how he's
- 18:42made his money. So he's uncomfortable with
- 18:44textiles, but he points out during the meeting that he'll be
- 18:47willing to invest if you can show detailed profits and
- 18:51expense figures. Because after all, Odogo male,
- 18:54he's a the businessman, he's an able businessman.
- 18:56So he understands Naira and COBOL, so he understands if.
- 19:00OK, the core idea might not know it, but I can see that you put
- 19:03money in here. This is how much comes out at
- 19:05the end of the day. So it gives you 2 conditions.
- 19:08I will invest if you show me profit and expense.
- 19:11Let me see how where the money comes in, where it goes out, how
- 19:14much comes out and if you can find another investor and you
- 19:17say oh thank you very much or Google Malay, I really
- 19:20appreciate it. You stand up, you don't ballet,
- 19:22you know that's the like the bow something 'cause you have to
- 19:25acknowledge now or Google Malay is a Bros.
- 19:28So you stand up, you acknowledge Bros and then you leave.
- 19:30Both of you agree to see again in one month.
- 19:34Now what happens next? The usual guy man attitude.
- 19:39Now the usual Nigerian attitude is you go along, you try and run
- 19:44a few things but then you forget that yon Odogo Malay said we'll
- 19:48meet in one month. By the time you remember, six
- 19:51weeks have passed and you try to hit up Odogo Malay again.
- 19:55At this point Odogo Malay, the serious businessman and he
- 19:58thinks this idiot is not serious.
- 20:02And you start going into voicemail and you say that Odogo
- 20:05Malay has entered ghost mode and you think the problem is Odogo
- 20:08Malay. The problem is not with Odogo,
- 20:11the problem is with you. He actually were not serious.
- 20:14You're trying to run this thing from memory, and it will happen
- 20:18eventually when you run these things from memory that you and
- 20:21somebody agree they're supposed to meet on Wednesday and you
- 20:25will now wake up on Friday and like, oh gosh, I was supposed to
- 20:28have been two days ago, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 20:30I start thinking the other person, so why didn't he send a
- 20:33reminder? I mean, like, who is the person
- 20:35who's chasing after something here?
- 20:36You are the one who's chasing after something.
- 20:38Why do you think this other person is going to remind you?
- 20:40Take the initiative. This is why CRM tools are really
- 20:44important and like I said, doesn't have to be expensive,
- 20:47doesn't have to be fancy. If you did paper and pen with
- 20:51diary, provided you take the diary every day, this mistake
- 20:54would not have happened. If you used mobile phone with no
- 20:57taking scheduling and all these sorts of apps, these sorts of
- 21:00things would not happen. So that is option one.
- 21:02What happens a lot of the time you do your guy man thing and
- 21:06you remember by the time the time is too late.
- 21:09Now option B, you've left the meeting, you say thank you to
- 21:13Odogo because it's a bigger Bros.
- 21:16You go outside, you get into the car.
- 21:18Before you drive away, you take out your phone and then record
- 21:23the details of the meeting, whether you want to do voice
- 21:27note or whatever, but you put some sort of record.
- 21:30The thing is, you're supposed to put it down so that there's
- 21:32something you refer to in the future.
- 21:33So you can remember that when me and Odogo had a meeting in his
- 21:37office, what did we talk about? What are we supposed to do,
- 21:39blah, blah, blah, blah. If you're going to do it as a
- 21:42text and you're using an Android phone just like I am, then what
- 21:47you do is you enter into your contact whatever, where you have
- 21:50stored Odogo Malay's phone number under Odogo Malay, you
- 21:54will see a section there that says details or notes.
- 21:56I think in iPhones it's notes, but I think in some Android
- 21:59phones it's details. Under details you can type a
- 22:02whole lot. I don't know what the character
- 22:04limit is. I think there are some that I've
- 22:05typed up to like 2000 characters and it hasn't blocked me yet to
- 22:09say you've run out of space. So you type out everything
- 22:12there. That way every single time you
- 22:15grab your phone and you tap Odogo Malay before you call, you
- 22:20can see the notes there about all the interactions you guys
- 22:24have had in the past. By the way, try and make it a
- 22:26summary. You know thing you're not trying
- 22:29to write out scripture here. So just key points.
- 22:31October 26th Odogo Malay meeting objections, agreement, follow
- 22:38up, action points, you know, blah blah blah. 5-6 lines just
- 22:41to remember. So every time you open your
- 22:45phone, I check or do Kumali, you'll be able to see the
- 22:48history of all the interactions. Then once you record nothing in
- 22:52your phone, remember you do all this before you drive away from
- 22:56the venue because this was going to happen.
- 22:58You drive away from the venue. While you're driving, Mom C
- 23:00calls. She has just one of your cousins
- 23:03who's getting married or this thing is happening in the family
- 23:07or she's coming to town. You should pick up at the
- 23:09airport. Just pick up at the park.
- 23:11And before you know it, that is how like 910 hours would have
- 23:15passed. You had the meeting with Odogo.
- 23:16You didn't write anything down. You started forgetting some of
- 23:19the things that Odogo said. So do this in your car before
- 23:23you take off. You now schedule a reminder.
- 23:26Put that reminder then on your phone for one month.
- 23:29That way you are not going to forget this meeting.
- 23:33You won't wake up six weeks later and think, ah, I should
- 23:36have had a follow up meeting with Odogu about raising 1000
- 23:39lbs for my business. Then you also set another
- 23:42reminder to call Odogu in three weeks and three days.
- 23:46Remember he said one month, One month is 4 weeks.
- 23:49So it's not a bad idea. If you call him up after 3 1/2
- 23:51weeks, you say ah Odogu and let's say I should greet you,
- 23:56remember our meeting, blah blah blah.
- 23:57You say we should see again in four weeks, should I come back
- 24:01to the office, blah blah blah. You know that whole thing.
- 24:03But basically a reminder call. So this is also useful because
- 24:09Odogo is a busy man, he might have forgotten.
- 24:12So this is also a good way to make sure that he remembers and
- 24:15he will now tell his PA to schedule the meeting and then
- 24:17all that. So the chances of this meeting
- 24:20going forward increase because you have set this reminder and
- 24:26you've taken action. So excuse me then before you
- 24:30leave. I know this sounds like a lot,
- 24:31but The thing is the more you do it, the easier it gets and you
- 24:35develop shorthand for taking your notes.
- 24:37So it actually happens. Sharp, sharp, sharp.
- 24:39Then you can also now call your business partner Yamasi.
- 24:43Let's say you met with Odogu Friday, you now call Yamasi.
- 24:46Yamasi, what's up? Let's meet on Friday.
- 24:48You now shall do that in the calendar.
- 24:51Now the whole point. So excuse me, sorry about that.
- 24:56The sore throat is gone, but unfortunately, I had a couple of
- 25:00speaking and coaching engagements, so my voice is
- 25:03being stretched to the Max right now.
- 25:05So I need to start researching, you know, all those funny things
- 25:08that people do, you know, drink ginger in the morning, drink
- 25:10honey in the afternoon and blah, blah, blah.
- 25:11And maybe I should get the voice coach.
- 25:15OK. What was that?
- 25:15Yeah. So you call Yamasi and you shell
- 25:17into your phone. And the reason why you're
- 25:19calling Yamasi is because Yamasi is your business partner.
- 25:22She studied accounting, so she's better at numbers than you.
- 25:25So the whole point of having this meeting with her is to tell
- 25:28her, look, I'm able to go on Friday.
- 25:30Odogo said no problem, $1000, I'll be, I can get you that
- 25:33money so long as you provide these numbers for me.
- 25:36I tell ya Missy, why I start working on these numbers so we
- 25:39can get her $1000. So you tell her.
- 25:43She starts preparing the figures.
- 25:44Of course you also schedule reminders to be sure that
- 25:46everything on track. Because if you tell ya Missy
- 25:48start getting these numbers, but you don't follow up on her, you
- 25:51find out now find out in three weeks that it's almost time for
- 25:54the meeting with Odogo and ya Missy doesn't have the thing
- 25:56there. So maybe even set a rolling
- 25:58reminder for every five days so that you can now check about
- 26:02Yamisi. Yamisi offer profit and loss
- 26:05share everything is there. The figures Abego, the meeting
- 26:08with Odogu is coming is $1000. There's no small money.
- 26:12So please, Yamisi, I beg do this thing.
- 26:14This is our future. Then Odogo also said that he
- 26:19would drop the money if you can find another, another investor.
- 26:24So you now schedule on your phone that OK, this is Friday,
- 26:29Sunday when I'm in church, let me stop by Deaconess Okuni
- 26:32because she's a respected member of the community.
- 26:35And the idea is that if she can invest, then Odogo might also be
- 26:38convinced because Deaconess Okuni is somebody that everybody
- 26:41knows. So Odogo, he respects her.
- 26:44If she drops money, he too he will drop.
- 26:47Then you also now schedule a note so that you can call the PA
- 26:50of Malam Sanusi and then schedule a meeting.
- 26:53You also put that on your calendar.
- 26:55Your rationale for doing this is the more the better with the
- 26:58Kanesukuni in my click, Well, if it doesn't click, at least
- 27:01you're still talking to my Amazon, UC, and a couple of
- 27:03other people to see how you can raise money through them.
- 27:06So the more investors, the better.
- 27:09Now, let me stop with all these details because my story is
- 27:12getting stretched and stretched and stretched.
- 27:13But the point that I'm trying to recommend and that I hope you
- 27:16guys get is because of all these pings, because of all these
- 27:20notifications, because of all these notes, because of all
- 27:24these reminders, you can see that you're now getting closer
- 27:27to getting your $1000 investments and for your
- 27:29business to succeed because you're not running things from
- 27:33memory. And there's something external
- 27:36to you that is going to be reminding you and prodding you
- 27:40that this is what you haven't done.
- 27:42This is who you need to see. This is who you need to follow
- 27:45up on. This is what you have to do
- 27:47next. So these are examples of free
- 27:51tools that you can use if you're a lawyer or if you're a startup
- 27:56founder, you want to set up a fish factory, you're a wedding
- 27:59planner or whatever it is you want to do.
- 28:02This is how you can manage relationships and dealings with
- 28:04clients and other stakeholders. So it doesn't matter what
- 28:08industry you're in. These are examples of free
- 28:10tools. This is where you will start.
- 28:14Eventually you would need something more complex, but when
- 28:17we get there, we'll get there. Today.
- 28:19It is fine to start with your phone.
- 28:21It is time. It is fine to start with pen and
- 28:23paper. It's fine to start with diary
- 28:25because you're not trying to run things from memory.
- 28:29So plan your dealings with customers and stakeholders
- 28:32properly, make sure you don't drop the ball and you should be
- 28:36fine. 30 minutes. So let me bring today's episode
- 28:39to a close. So that's all for today.
- 28:41Please connect with me on WhatsApp.
- 28:42The phone number is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
- 28:48For those of you who are not Nigerian, then connect with me
- 28:51on LinkedIn. The name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 28:53Can confirm the spelling of my name and my e-mail address from
- 28:56the link. We're currently listening to
- 28:57this episode, so thanks for your time and attention.
- 28:59I'll catch you guys at the next recording.