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348. How Dare I Not: Dr. Chelsea Jackson Roberts On How Yoga Changed Her Life & Letting Go Of 'Should' · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Just give it a try, because how dare you not
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  Speaker 1: use this opportunity to get closer and understand exactly who
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  Speaker 1: you are in this lifetime?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Emily, a body here. You are listening to
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  Speaker 2: episode two hundred and forty eight of Hurdle, a wellness
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  Speaker 2: focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people about everything
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  Speaker 2: from their highest highs and toughest moments to essential tips
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  Speaker 2: on how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life.
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  Speaker 2: We all go through our fair share of hurdles. My
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  Speaker 2: goal through these discussions is to empower you to better
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  Speaker 2: navigate yours and move with intention so that you can
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  Speaker 2: stride towards your own big potential and of course, have
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  Speaker 2: some fun along the way. For today's episode two forty eight,
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  Speaker 2: M chatting with doctor Chelsea Jackson Roberts. She may just
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  Speaker 2: be your favorite Peloton instructor. She's also a Lemon ambassador.
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  Speaker 2: And when I tell you that this conversation is so
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  Speaker 2: full of light and positivity and truly inspirational vibes, that's
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  Speaker 2: the biggest understatement in our chat today. Chelsea and I
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  Speaker 2: really dive in to her backstory. She talks to me
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  Speaker 2: about the craziness that ensued in her first ever hot
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  Speaker 2: yoga class, and how the practice early on helped her
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  Speaker 2: navigate the unexpected loss of.
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  Speaker 3: A loved one.
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  Speaker 2: We also talk about the highs and lows of showing
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  Speaker 2: up each and every day to such a wide global audience,
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  Speaker 2: and we wrap a bit about sleep. Peloton recently launched
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  Speaker 2: a new meditation series. It's called Seven Days to Better Sleep.
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  Speaker 2: I'll link it in the show notes. Chelsea talks to
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  Speaker 2: me about what her really has been like with sleep
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  Speaker 2: since becoming a new mom to her beautiful sun Noble,
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  Speaker 2: and how she leans into her yoga and meditation practice
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  Speaker 2: to get better shut eye, something that so many of
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  Speaker 2: us are constantly trying to hack for ourselves. She also
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  Speaker 2: offers up beginner tips for anyone that's trying to integrate
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  Speaker 2: a yoga and meditation practice into their regular routine, and
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  Speaker 2: tells me about what it is that she's most looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to right now.
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  Speaker 3: Love this convo.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, no shortage of inspiration from Chelsea, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy to bring this to the feed. Make
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  Speaker 3: With that, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: I am sitting down with the ever lovely doctor Chelsea
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Roberts. She's probably one of your favorite Peloton instructors
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  Speaker 2: and she is here on the pot today.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Hurdle, Chelsea.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me, Emily.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for making the time talk to
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  Speaker 2: me about how you are doing lately.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot in the pipeline for you right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, no time is ever like really like just
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  Speaker 1: this downtime, I feel like everything is in constant motion.
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  Speaker 1: Even in those spaces when I find time for rest,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still moving and so so I'm definitely as the
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  Speaker 1: seasons change, is starting to get busy again. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's just like those ebbs and flows. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like my yoga practice. One day, maybe a power
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  Speaker 1: yoga day. The other day may be strictly restoredive yoga,
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  Speaker 1: and right now I am somewhere in between the two.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit yin yoga, so that means that
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  Speaker 1: it's not super easy, but I'm finding spaces to be
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  Speaker 1: still and also stay strong, stay strong.
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  Speaker 2: I love hearing it you talk about the diversity of
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  Speaker 2: your yoga practice, because a lot of people hear yoga
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  Speaker 2: and they may think one very specific type of yoga.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they think about slow and hot, or they think
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  Speaker 2: about power, or they think about bickrum. Obviously, so many
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  Speaker 2: different ones we can list here. And I also love
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  Speaker 2: the diversity in your practice because when you started at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, you had no idea what you were getting into, right,
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  Speaker 2: talk to us a little bit about that beginning entry
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  Speaker 2: point to yoga for you and what that looked like.
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  Speaker 1: I was familiar with yoga because I would see people
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  Speaker 1: who were around me who practiced yoga, and I always
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  Speaker 1: thought that they had this thing about them that I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't put my finger on, but I was drawn to it.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily that they were happy all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but they were at peace. It wasn't necessarily that they
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  Speaker 1: had all of the answers, but they were clear, and
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  Speaker 1: so I knew that I wanted to practice yoga. The
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  Speaker 1: first yoga class I went into was a hot yoga class.
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  Speaker 1: It was quite intense. I fainted in the class. I
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  Speaker 1: did not know that it could take me out like
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  Speaker 1: that and also transform my life in a way that
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  Speaker 1: has been more integrated than I think that it would
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  Speaker 1: have been had yoga not entered my life. And then
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  Speaker 1: yoga then opened up the possibilities to have a meditation practice,
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  Speaker 1: something that I didn't think I would ever be able
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  Speaker 1: to do, to like sit down and just breathe. And
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  Speaker 1: what I thought was quieting the mind was really just
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  Speaker 1: being in communication with my own thoughts and this opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to not say I want to be something other than
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  Speaker 1: who I am right now, but to accept who I
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  Speaker 1: was in the moment, so that I could decide who
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to evolve into being. And so I started
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  Speaker 1: yoga when I was a school teacher, my first year
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  Speaker 1: of being a school teacher, when I needed something to
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  Speaker 1: come to after school, like the students were fine, like,
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  Speaker 1: of course, it could get a lot when you're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with I had third graders, and so it was quite active,
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  Speaker 1: but the demands are really from administrators, from you know,
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  Speaker 1: standard tests and things like that, and so it was
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  Speaker 1: quite overwhelming for me. So I knew that I needed
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  Speaker 1: something to put me back together again, and yoga and
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  Speaker 1: meditation happened to be the practice that put me back together.
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  Speaker 2: You add some color to where I wanted to go here,
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  Speaker 2: which is asking about how you were feeling when you
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  Speaker 2: first sought out yoga. You talk a bit about how
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  Speaker 2: you associated those that did yoga to be individuals that
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  Speaker 2: had peace, that had calm, and you were after that
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  Speaker 2: peace and that calm. So can you tell us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more about your mental state and what was
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  Speaker 2: perhaps the straw that broke the camel's back that sent
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  Speaker 2: you to yoga for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I will share what got me deeper into yoga.
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  Speaker 1: So when I was going to yoga for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: it was just like this purely physical experience. It was
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  Speaker 1: like my workout, especially because I was doing hot yoga.
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  Speaker 1: I could just go in and instantly start sweating, and
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  Speaker 1: it was just like, oh, this is a great way
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  Speaker 1: to get into my body. And it was later in
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  Speaker 1: life that I had quite a tragic event happened. I
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  Speaker 1: lost one of my closest friends to gun violence, and
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  Speaker 1: so she was my roommate at Spelman College.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to Spelman.
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  Speaker 1: We actually just returned from Spelman with Peloton, So that
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  Speaker 1: was really great talking about mental and emotional well being,
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  Speaker 1: which was so full circle for me. But it was
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  Speaker 1: during a moment in life where I did not have
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  Speaker 1: an anchor to walk me through and help me navigate
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  Speaker 1: something as huge as losing someone to gun violence, and
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  Speaker 1: it was so abrupt. It was this experience of what
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  Speaker 1: we did, everything we were supposed to do. We went
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  Speaker 1: to college, we got the degrees, we were these high
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  Speaker 1: achieving women in this all women's school.
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  Speaker 4: And it was just like it was like.
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  Speaker 1: The rug was pulled out from beneath me when this happened,
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  Speaker 1: When this tragedy happened, and I had already had my
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  Speaker 1: yoga practice, that was my workout. But then the pieces
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  Speaker 1: started coming together that I realized that yoga was way
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  Speaker 1: more than just a workout for me. It was my
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  Speaker 1: opportunity again, I said, put the pieces back together.
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  Speaker 4: I felt very fragmented.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was a trauma, and anyone who's familiar
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  Speaker 1: with our responses to trauma, were either going to fight,
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  Speaker 1: fly or freeze. It's really just feeling helpless, hopeless, and overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt all of that. And so yoga there
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  Speaker 1: was something that happened that I remembered when I would
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  Speaker 1: work out to yoga that I wanted to feel as
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  Speaker 1: I navigated this uncharted territory of losing Misty, and so
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  Speaker 1: yoga for me became my lifeline. Yoga was the thing
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  Speaker 1: that opened me up to go into therapy. It was
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  Speaker 1: something that reminded me that I'm here right now.
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  Speaker 4: Although missed you may not.
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  Speaker 1: Physically be here, I have an opportunity with this life
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  Speaker 1: that I get to hold right now. And yoga just
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  Speaker 1: somehow made every aspect of my life even more palpable
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  Speaker 1: and potent. I just started experiencing way more gratitude. I
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  Speaker 1: started seeing the connections. I feel like, I started humanizing
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  Speaker 1: myself and giving myself grace a little more, which in
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  Speaker 1: turn gave the people around me a lot more grace.
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  Speaker 1: And so yeah, yoga was that thing that put me
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  Speaker 1: back together again.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for sharing that.
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  Speaker 2: And it is so special to hear about what yoga
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  Speaker 2: was able to give you during that difficult time and
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  Speaker 2: also reflecting on what you shared about that hot class
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  Speaker 2: that you went into where you fainted, you were still
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  Speaker 2: open to what the practice could not only give you
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  Speaker 2: but propel you towards, despite having a pretty rocky start.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think that you kept with it despite
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  Speaker 2: going through something that would dissuade others from returning to
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  Speaker 2: the mout altogether?
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  Speaker 1: Because I knew inherently yoga was getting me back to
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  Speaker 1: who I was at my core. I knew that when
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  Speaker 1: we had mirrors all around us in this yoga class,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew that there was something there when I
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  Speaker 1: looked myself in my eyes and tears started to fill up.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that there was something there when I would
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  Speaker 1: look at myself in my eyes and I would experience
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  Speaker 1: sadness or pain, or like rage or like all of
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  Speaker 1: the stages of grief that I was experiencing. I showed
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  Speaker 1: up to it each and every time I looked myself
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  Speaker 1: in the eyes, And it was usually when I would
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  Speaker 1: turn away from that that I would just start to spiral,
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  Speaker 1: like the more that I tried to get away and
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  Speaker 1: push away who I truly was and what I was
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  Speaker 1: experiencing that's when things started to get harder. The hardest
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  Speaker 1: part for me sometimes was just saying, okay, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: practice yoga. Whether I was going to a studio or
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  Speaker 1: practicing in my bedroom. The hardest thing was saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me roll out my mat, Okay, let me do
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  Speaker 1: But usually, just like any workout, on the other side
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  Speaker 1: of that, you feel so much better. And I remembered
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  Speaker 1: how I felt at the end of shabasana. Now, granted
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  Speaker 1: everything was not you know, peaches and butterflies, and you
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  Speaker 1: know we always say all the different things, they were
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  Speaker 1: not all of those I love fluffy kittens.
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  Speaker 4: It was not a fluffy kitten moment.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes there were sometimes where feelings, emotions would come up.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to tell people who have never experienced
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  Speaker 1: yoga and meditation, or they're afraid to because they may
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  Speaker 1: have gotten a glimpse or tapped into a bit of
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  Speaker 1: an emotion that's overwhelming, that that's natural. And why I
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  Speaker 1: love yoga meditation is because we have this built in
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  Speaker 1: framework to remember to breathe. I'm always telling students members
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  Speaker 1: to breathe, to remember to breathe, And so I knew
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  Speaker 1: that I was getting closer to myself each time I
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  Speaker 1: stepped on and off of that met after a practice.
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  Speaker 1: That's what kept me coming back.
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  Speaker 3: That's what kept you coming back and again.
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  Speaker 2: That desire to keep confronting all of those difficult emotions
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  Speaker 2: that you listed, the grief, that anger, the frustration, all
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  Speaker 2: of that that was stirred up within you. That is
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  Speaker 2: truly a sign of the desire for growth, something that
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  Speaker 2: scares so many. For someone that hears this and thinks, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but it couldn't be me, what do you tell them
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  Speaker 2: about meeting themselves with where they're at, whether it be
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  Speaker 2: then stepping onto the mat, or perhaps just trying to
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  Speaker 2: find some solace within their own home and within their
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  Speaker 2: own body.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's this mantra that I anchor myself
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  Speaker 1: into a lot.
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  Speaker 4: How dare I not?
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  Speaker 1: I learned that mantra from one of my mentors in
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  Speaker 1: French corn How dare I not? How dare I not?
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  Speaker 1: If I can physically breathe right now? Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: take it for granted, and it's not lost on me
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  Speaker 1: that there's someone out there that may be listening to
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  Speaker 1: a yoga class or a meditation and they're not able
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  Speaker 1: to do all of the things that I instruct you
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  Speaker 1: to do. I try to leave their space for variation,
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  Speaker 1: But I say, how dare I not use this opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to understand who I am?
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  Speaker 4: We only have this one lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: As far as I know, this is all I know,
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  Speaker 1: this body, this experience, and so I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: waste time.
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  Speaker 4: I think the.
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  Speaker 1: Older I get, I think when you reach a certain
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  Speaker 1: threshold in life, you start to realize how sweet life
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  Speaker 1: can be if you truly tap into it. My grandmother
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  Speaker 1: just celebrated one hundred years of being alive. She is
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  Speaker 1: one hundred years old, and I often think about all
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  Speaker 1: of the things that she's experienced, the Great Depression, Jim Crow, segregation,
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  Speaker 1: like she lost her mother at the age of ten.
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  Speaker 1: I share this on social media and the response was
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  Speaker 1: overwhelming because my granny was dancing like she was still
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  Speaker 1: filled with so much joy. And So when I think
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  Speaker 1: about life, when I think about being honest about how
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  Speaker 1: our approach life, I do believe in a positive lens
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  Speaker 1: to see something and to see an experience life. But
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  Speaker 1: I also want to give myself permission to experience the
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  Speaker 1: fullness of life, and so I know that there is
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  Speaker 1: also joy. There's also suffering. There's also light, there's also dark,
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  Speaker 1: like there's all of these things that make up our
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  Speaker 1: human experience. And so I say to anyone who is
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  Speaker 1: alive right now, who can hear, who can feel this message,
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  Speaker 1: just give it a try, because how dare you not
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  Speaker 1: use this opportunity to get closer and understand exactly who
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  Speaker 1: you are in this lifetime?
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  Speaker 4: And for me, yoga and meditation was that way to
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  Speaker 4: get there.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you not started to really adopt more of
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  Speaker 2: a consistent and regular yoga practice. It wasn't super long
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  Speaker 2: before you understood, Okay, I really desire to integrate this
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  Speaker 2: in a bigger way into my life. Talk to us
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about when it shifted from being something
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  Speaker 2: that you simply did as a way to confront yourself
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  Speaker 2: as a way to navigate some of these intricate emotions,
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  Speaker 2: to beginning to incorporate it into your life's work.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I remember when I decided to take the teachers
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  Speaker 1: training because the teachers training that I took it happened,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, on the weekends and sometimes like on
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  Speaker 1: a Friday night, every other Friday night.
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  Speaker 4: It was a two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Hour teachers training, and I just remember feeling like, do
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  Speaker 1: I have time for this? Do I really? And it
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  Speaker 1: was just like, yes, I do, Yes, I do. And
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  Speaker 1: when I saw how it impacted other aspects of my life,
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  Speaker 1: I started to lean in even more. Lot of people
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  Speaker 1: who do a yoga teachers training will say I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: this not to be a teacher. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: do like this self study, and then oftentimes they become teachers.
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  Speaker 1: When I went into yoga, I knew that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to teach yoga because I, in particular wanted to share
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  Speaker 1: this with my community. And I lived in Atlanta, Georgia
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  Speaker 1: at the time. I worked in a predominantly black African
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  Speaker 1: American school that was a Title I school where the
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  Speaker 1: majority of the students live below the poverty line. I
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  Speaker 1: think about my own upbringing in Dayton, Ohio, and so
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, again, how dare I not share
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  Speaker 1: what I have learned that has helped me and perhaps
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  Speaker 1: it will touch someone the same way, maybe not, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to at least try. And so I never
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  Speaker 1: went into yoga saying that I wanted to be like
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  Speaker 1: this huge yoga star like. I never went into it
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  Speaker 1: saying these are my goals I want to reach here
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  Speaker 1: by this, I didn't have a five year plan when
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  Speaker 1: it came to being a yoga instructor. I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be in the work. I just wanted to understand myself.
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  Speaker 1: And then fast forward about five years into teaching yoga,
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  Speaker 1: I ended up being on the cover of Yoga Journal twice.
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  Speaker 1: I was on the cover of different publications that were
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  Speaker 1: specific about yoga. And then all of a sudden, I
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  Speaker 1: started moving. People started to hear the way in which
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  Speaker 1: I talked about yoga, they saw the excitement, they they
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  Speaker 1: just it spoke for itself. And so I always say,
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  Speaker 1: if you lead with your purpose in life, it's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: If you're consistent, if you're committed, something will eventually happen.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, I had no idea that it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be Peloton because here I am a yoga
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  Speaker 1: teacher who was used to either being a school teacher
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  Speaker 1: or a yoga teacher who was deeply rooted in a
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  Speaker 1: yoga community. Now I'm in this space just celebrating five
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  Speaker 1: years at Peloton that she I was in this space
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  Speaker 1: that was a fitness space, it was an entertainment space,
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  Speaker 1: it was a technology It was like all of these
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  Speaker 1: things that I never thought I would be able to
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  Speaker 1: share yoga in this capacity and cast as wide of
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  Speaker 1: a net as I do now, And so that was
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  Speaker 1: how it happened. I did not know that this could happen,
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  Speaker 1: and it did because I stayed committed to my purpose.
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  Speaker 2: And oftentimes when things unfold for us in this way
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  Speaker 2: where you didn't anticipate it or you didn't think that
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  Speaker 2: it could happen, it's because you weren't modeled this way previously.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about the communities that you were so active
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: in and when you started yoga, not seeing many other
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: practitioners that looked like you. So now you've become her,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, right, someone that is
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: modeling the way for so many others who aspire to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: do something similar to what it is that you're doing. Now,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: before we talk more about your Peloton chapter, I do
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: want to talk about what you said, which was that
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you noticed that yoga was impacting other aspects of your life.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Talk to me about what those aspects were and are.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yes well, currently public speaking and conversation with people. I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: get really nervous, I get really the thoughts just start
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to flood in at a really rapid pace. I can
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: lose my train of thought because I'm so excited about
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the conversation. I can almost hesitate and stop myself from
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: saying something. Because I'm a recovering perfectionist. Yoga has helped
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: me with this. Yoga has grounded me in a way
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that you know. I've worked with vocal coaches, have been
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: tremendously helpful, but there was something about the connection. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: often find a vocal coach who is familiar with yoga
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and meditation so that it's more of an embodied experience,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and that is just how I learned, and so it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: helped me in that aspect. It's helped me how I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: use my voice in this world. I think about when
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I launched at Peloton and how nervous I was to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: say some of the things that I said at the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: time that we were experiencing. And so yoga people think
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: yogis are like just these quiet, like reserve I mean,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I'll bee it like sometimes introverted. But I think because
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: we spend so much time in our meditations, in observation,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in self reflection, that if we get an opportunity to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: let it out, then you're gonna get some information from us,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and I think that yoga and meditation has certainly supported
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: me in harnessing that power that I didn't realize was
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a power before. I didn't realize that me listening and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: observing and not being the person who was super chatty
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: would end up supporting me in life later because I've
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: just been taking it all in, taking it all in,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and now I have like a framework for me to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: be able to articulate it. And yoga has definitely supported
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: me in my relationships. So my husband and I, Shane,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: are about to celebrate ten years of marriage in May,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and I think about how that has certainly been the glue.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Heat went and did a teachers training when we were
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: dating because he was just like, I don't know what
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, Chakras, you're crying all the time, You're emotional,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Like I just need to understand. So he did a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: two hundred hour teachers training. And oftentimes we will call
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: on the sacred texts of yoga to help us navigate
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: conversations at time, And so it has definitely impacted and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: how I have arrived to motherhood.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: It has influenced that as well.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: So nothing says I love you like I'm going to
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: spend two hundred hours taking a yoga teacher training.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: What a rock star.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate when we talk about the ways that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: yoga has impacted all these other aspects of your life,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you're actually drawing a meaningful point up here, which is
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: that meditation and yoga. Although meditation can be a component
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: of yoga, they can also be two very different things. Right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So you're speaking on how meditation, that aspect of your
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: practice has really holistically helped you in all of these
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: different areas.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, there are a lot of people who meditate
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: who think that they can't do yoga. I beg to differ,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: but yeah, meditation can be a different experience than the
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: physical embodiment of yoga.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Now oftentimes when people think about meditation and think about yoga.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I love that you threw out some of these stereotypes already.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: This inability or maybe this feeling as though someone is
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: incapable of sitting still. I'm sure this is something that
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: you can year all of the time to someone that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: approaches you and says, I'm just not good at setting still.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: What do you tell them, Chelsea.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Don't do it? Don't sit still. If your meditation looks
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like you need to go take a walk. Guess what
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I got you covered? We've got walking meditations. I like
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to meet people where they are. As a former elementary
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: school teacher, I am very respectful of the multiple intelligences,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and so I don't believe that we are all like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: carbon copies of each other that were robots. Like there
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: are some days that I can't sis still, and I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: have to honor that. Instead of rejecting exactly how my
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: body is showing up, I'm an acceptance of it, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: then I work with it. If there's something that I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: want to shift and change. And I think that that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: is a formula that if more people would practice that,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: then there would be a lot less internal violence and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: then violence between each other because we're not fighting ourselves
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in this moment. It's just like, all right, take a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: deep breath, let's assess the situation. All right, this is
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: what is right now. I live in New York City
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and there's a siren going by on one side, there's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you know, there's all these moving factors. How can I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: meet myself exactly where I am? How can I meet
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: my environment exactly as it's showing up for me?
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Today. And then also I tell people start off in
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: smaller increments. Do not feel like.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: You have to be this like Yogi who's sitting on
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a mountaintop meditating for eight days straight. That is not
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: realistic in the world in which we live. And so
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I tell people to be kind to yourself and offer
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: yourself grace.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: In that way.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And then that's when we began to own our version
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of our meditation practice.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: When was the last time that you really had to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: be diligent about offering yourself grace?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Chelsea, Oh, in the last two years.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Noble is two years old, and I would say in
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the last years certainly while I was even carrying Noble.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But it was something about having this human being that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: my partner and I, my husband and I are responsible for.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But there was something about mothering and me that triggered
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: some of the things that I was trying to recover from,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: so like the perfectionism and so reminding myself that I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: had to offer myself grace in order to approach Noble
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: in that way. So anything that I was trying to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: make happen, Like I think the biggest challenge for new
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: parents in general are just like these milestones and it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: just like, oh gosh, they're not doing this by this stage,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: or I'm not doing this right, what's wrong with me?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And I don't ever want Noble to feel that I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: looking at him like hurry up, son, we gotta get
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: this moving. It's just like, all right, Chelsea, let's take
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: this a step back, offer yourself grace first, take a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: deep breath, you know, and it's just like, everything's okay.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I ground myself in the facts, and I feel like
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: meditation yoga is a great way to practice being rooted
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in what is in this moment. And so that's those
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: are some of the ways that I have to remind
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: myself to practice exactly what I teach.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think so many get caught up in
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the frantic nest, whether it is, you know, within their
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: own journey with motherhood or just everyday life.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Right. It's as though we have these tools and we.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Know they're in the toolbox, but sometimes life be life
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: and and you forget friendly available for you, right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it may not look like a child like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that was my experience, but like something that you're birthy
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: in a new project. I remember working writing my dissertation
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: way before Noble was in existence, and it felt like
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: a very similar experience of being like, you may not
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: figure this out overnight. You may have to take a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: little bit more time than you thought it was going
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to take. And so that's for anyone who's experiencing something
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that they really love, they really care about, and they
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: want to see it happen, and maybe it's not happening
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: quick enough.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Maybe you need to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Take a pause, a beat, a breath and go to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: your mat or to your cushion, just to just reset.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Reset.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You know a lot about hard work and patience, exemplified
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: by the amount of time that you put in to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: your studies. I mean it's not traditional by any means
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to get your bachelor's, then a master's, then a PhD,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: go through all of this study and learning. Talk to
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: me about what that journey taught you about patients and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: about the importance of investing in yourself.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would if you would have asked me, listen,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: if I would have taken my class.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: That classes that I teach now, like maybe ten.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Years ago, I don't know, if I would have gotten
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a PhD, I'd have been, like Chelsea said, just go
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: take a rest. So relax, girl, and so that's what
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, don't get me wrong, I'm often telling
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: people to remember to rest, to remember to have those
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: restorative and recovery practices. And also I know that it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: can benefit us to achieve. It's quite beneficial for me
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to have been a high achiever for so many decades
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: really in my life, and the journey was definitely one
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: of unlearning what that looks like. I'm here to normalize
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: being the both. And so those nights when I stayed
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: up and maybe not have, you know, slept the way
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that I should have, and perhaps that could have impacted
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: how I showed up to the next day, I think
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I would have done that differently. I think that I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: would have rested a little bit more. But then I say,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything different because I probably
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have ended up where I am today. And so
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it's all of those lessons. I often tell my students,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I never be ashamed of the journey that got you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: where you are right now, and remind yourself that these
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: were the steps that were needed, these were.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: The lessons that were needed.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't get into that everything happens for a reason,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: because I think that that can be dismissive sometimes case
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: by case, but I will say, never be ashamed of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the journey that brought you here. And when I think
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: about the journey those sleepless nights, those nights where I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: prop my central nervous system was probably looking at me
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: like girl, just stop, just stop for a second. I'm
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: glad that I'm learning those lessons now, and that's why
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sharing them the way that I do now to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: hopefully save someone a little bit of suffering, you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like just a little bit that you can have a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: more balanced approach to achievement.
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  Speaker 3: It is really wild. The older that you get, the
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  Speaker 2: And I don't want to generalize, but that we have
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  Speaker 2: for rest and the benefit of just slowing down and
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  Speaker 2: realizing that ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh when I think about things in the
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  Speaker 1: past and I'm just like, I was just so and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, I don't even really remember,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like when you have an argument with someone,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: here's like I don't even remember what it was about,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, And it's just like at the end of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the day, I think somebody has posed this question before.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It's just like, at the end of your time here
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: on this earth, what are you really going to reflect on?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And I want to reflect on those moments when I'm
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: with those with whom I love, whether it's my students
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: or my very close family members, my husband, my child,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like all of those things. That's what I want to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: remember where their love existed. Not everything that I produce.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Of course, the things that I produce can be a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: space for love, but it's really about those intimate connections
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and I am usually not present if I'm not well rested.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And so those are the things that are really important
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about how you stay present with everything
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: that you have going on right now.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's definitely a work in progress. And
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it's that's why yoga teachers will often say to have
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a beginner's mind, like I'm never going to be this master.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I never want to be you know whatever the word is, Like,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: i am a teacher with a capital T, but I'm
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: also still a student with a capital S. Like it's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just like I want to constantly be learning and evolving.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And so the challenges for me, as I said, I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: do have tendencies to be introverted. I started off this
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: year saying that I'm going to work with that and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: see how it feels to not lead with that as
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: my identity, because I think that that was a defense
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: mechanism for me in order to not for one to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: not arrive to.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: The things that I could actually do.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: So it was just like, oh, if I tell them
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I'm an introvert, introvert, they're not going to ask me
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: on a podcast, They're not going to want to interview
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: me and talk to me. So it's just like these
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: roadblocks that I was subconsciously putting up so that I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: couldn't even arrive to the challenges of sharing all of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: this experience with yoga that I have. And so some
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of the challenges are being seen. That is one of
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: my biggest challenges, and says the Peloton instructure, being seen
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: like being seen and heard. That's still something that I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: work with and really it's my own internalized view of
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: what I should look like. And they say comparison is
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the thief of joy. And I've never felt happier after
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: comparing myself to anyone else. And so again, although I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: may have tendencies that may not look extroverted, I'm still
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: very much a person who loves human connection. And so
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the challenges for me are being seen and heard out
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: into the world.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Would you mind if we dug into that feeling of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: should What is it that sometimes you feel as though
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you should look like?
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: How does that show up for you?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Before Peloton, I was a global ambassador for Lulu Women,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: where I traveled the world. One of the last things
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that I did right before the pandemic I taught in China.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I taught in China right at the end of the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: year and there were about five thousand people in the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: audience taking yoga with me. I had an interpreter, I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: had demos, about five people demoing for me. Shae was
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: with me, and I just could not believe it. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: could not believe that I had done that. And it
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: was almost like this out of body experience. And I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: started to watch the playback the videos and I was just.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Like, who was that? Who is that?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And all I can remember was just like I was
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: extremely nervous, anxious, all of the things, being in a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: country where the language, like everything told me that I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: should not have been there, yet I did it anyway.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And had I listened to.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: The should shoulds, the shoulds and.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Woods and you can't and who are you to think
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and all of those, I would have never have seen
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: myself in that way. And that was definitely a transformative
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: moment in time. And then fast forward to when I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: became a Peloton instructor, and what I knew a Peloton
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: instructor to be were some of the people that I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was quite impressed with, Like I would see Robin, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I would see Ali, and I see you know, Cody
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and Alex, and these were all the people who I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was looking at before I started Peloton, I was like,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: but I'm not like them, And so then I start
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: second guessing and doubting myself. Even after all of the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: experiences that I have. I'm like, are they sure they
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: want me? Are they sure they know who? And so
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: all of these mental gymnastics that I'm doing to tell
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: myself that I shouldn't step into my power?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: How dare I not?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: If the opportunity was being offered and these people fell
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the time, saw my light, saw my talent, saw my skill,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and gave me a chance, how dare I not take that?
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Because what would.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Have happened was it would have looked for someone else
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to fill that space, and they may not have had
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the message that I know that is so important that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I am sure has brought so many people to the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: mat who thought that they were never ever Yogi's or
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: worthy of this space. I know that it has made
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: a breakthrough for so many. So that's what I did
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: with my shoulds and my coud is I would like bye.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: It's so powerful, right, and it's something that is such
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: a common occurrence for all of us, regardless of whatever
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: it is that we may be up against or going after.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: This constant, unfortunate era of comparison, especially with everything that
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: we deal with on social media. For someone that may
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: be in the thick of this comparison spiral right now,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: for someone that is in their own battle with the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: shouldoves and the kuldoves in the wood ofs what is
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: it that you tell them to help them get out
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: of their own way?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I always love people.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I always invite people to close their eyes, take a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: deep breath. One of the practices that I do when
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm experiencing being unkind, and that's a form of not
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: being kind to ourselves, like just completely doubting ourselves or
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: not thinking that we're worthy to fill up that space.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I often tell my students to imagine yourself at the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: age of five, and you're sitting in front of yourself,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and you're seeing yourself so full of hope, excitement before
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the world begins to throw onto you who you are,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: who you need to be, who those people are, and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: why they're not you, and you know all of these
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: things that we learn as we grow up. I feel
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: like there's this sweet spot in our youth. I see
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it in Noble right now, how he can just go
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: up to a child and just want to play.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: No matter what. He just has that courage.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And so I tell people to imagine that you're sitting
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: in front of yourself at that tender age of whatever
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it is, and I think that there's like a trend.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Going around right now of like I met.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: My younger self for coffee, and I think I'm crying
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: every time I read somebody's it's just like, oh, I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: get it, And it's just like, take yourself back to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that place where you can be completely sweet to yourself
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and see yourself in that light now who you are
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: right now, in this moment, who you've learned to develop
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: shame around something that you may not be proud of,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: or something you wish you would have done differently, but
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that person A's the purest point at whatever age that is.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: And go to that version of you and sit with
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: that version of you, and something usually happens.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Something usually happens.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: We talked about the should have and the kudos being
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: a big challenge for you as you stepped into your
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: power and especially as this new in that new chapter
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: as a Peloton instructor, what would you say has been
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the biggest challenge that you feaced over your last five
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: years at Peloton.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Being seen and Willie really is like, It's like, on
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the one hand, no, I'm not comparing myself to my colleagues,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: but thank goodness, I have such amazing colleagues that I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: can say I'm right here with them, and what is
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it that I see myself doing? And so you know
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: that whole iron sharpens iron. That's how I feel. And
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: so the challenge, while the challenge may be me being seen,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: me saying the thing even when my voice shakes, me
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: sharing the yoga practice that I'm just like, oh gosh,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to receive this, but
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: doing it anyway like that has been the challenge, and
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: what's on the other side of it has been my
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: biggest transformation achievements.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: In really proud moments.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: You will never find someone that does something that is
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: so authentic to their being and who it is they
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: are at their core and they will say I regret doing.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: That, like when never, absolutely never.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: So it totally makes sense that although there is that
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: fear of the shoot of the kod, ofs the being seen,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: right when you act in your purpose and you're standing
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: on your own two feet, there's so much pride and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: strength and beauty that comes hand in hand with fast. Yes,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: something that I do want to talk about is that
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I know that recently Peloton launched their seven Days to
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Better Sleep series, sleep one of without a doubt, the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: things that can truly benefit from a meditation a practice.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Why was this something that was important for you to
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: be involved in, Chelsea.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Because I have challenges with sleep. I've had challenges with
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: sleep again, it ebbs and it flows. I used to
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: be that person, I think, like in my early twenties
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: who was just like, I don't understand why people have
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: such a hard time.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Sleeping, Like I just didn't get it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And then something happened and then I started having a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: hard time sleeping. That's something the trauma of losing my
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: best friend, like the trauma of just everyday life, the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: experience of being a high achiever who's trying to write
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: a dissertation over the course of five years. So things
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: in different parts of our lives will keep us up.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: But what I did find was that usually when I
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: was in resistance to go to sleep, I was usually
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: asleep to something in my life that needed to be
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: worked on. I'll say that again.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Usually when I was in resistance to go to sleep
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and recover and to be still and to turn everything off.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: It was usually because I was staying asleep to something
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: in my life that was a big challenge, and my
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: yoga Nidra teacher actually supported me with that. Tracy Stanley
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: shout out to her and it was that question that
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: she asked. She was like, what have you been asleep
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: to in your life? What have you been basically sleeping
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: on yourself about? And it was my voice, it was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: my own voice, and I think that that was keeping
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: me up at night because I wasn't living in my
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: true authentic self. That was keeping me up. It was
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I felt unsettled. I was having issues asleep before Noble came.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I actually started to get a better sleep practice when
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Noble was earthside because I would go to sleep with him.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Shane would be up binge watching, catching up on all
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the shows that I would fall asleep on, and he
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: would just be like, Chelsea, you're still awake. No, I'm
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: sleep And so I would just start going to sleep
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: at eight o'clock and it truly shifted like how I
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: felt in the morning, and it's certainly leveled out now.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I'm actually having an adult life.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: You know that I can watch my favorite programming and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: spend time with my husband and just things like that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: But I do remember struggling with sleep when I was
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: in resistance to sharing my voice in the world.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: It was keeping me up at night.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: There is nothing worse than wanting to get to sleep
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: and not being able to get to sleep or and
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I would argue that this is really the worst, waking
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: up anytime between like one thirty and two thirty AM,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and then just being awake and the thoughts are racing
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: and you feel as though you are literally a prisoner
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: within your own body.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I've.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Experienced that too before Noble, even before Pelotime when I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: lived in Atlanta, and waking up and just being like,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, why don't you just go to sleep?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: And then after a while I just started making peace
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: with being up. I was just like, you know what
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you're up right now? I wasn't necessarily going to feed
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it by going on social media, and my central nervous
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: system is now getting ignited again, like on ready, and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: it's just like, but I would kind of work with
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: being up. I would start to journal I'm like, what
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: am what are it's on my mind right now because I'm.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Clearly not sleeping. I would do my meditation.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I would it didn't look perfect, but I would do
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: things that allow me to work with what is as
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: opposed to saying, oh my gosh, Chelsea, why can't you
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: just go back to sleep?
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: That never works. That never worked for me.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I could not force myself ever, whether it was in yoga,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: whether it's publicly speaking, to force myself to do something
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: thing that was in resistance to what was actually happening.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: And that's the way that it's supposed to go.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Right When you start to get wound up and more
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: angry about something that you can't necessarily one hundred percent
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: control in the moment, it is truly just wasted energy.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I remember, like especially during pandemic days,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: like if you had to cough and you're like trying
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to keep the cough in because you're like, I don't
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: want anybody around me to think I and then you're
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: like trying to hold the coffin. The cough is going
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to be ten times worth my friends, Or like when
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: you're trying to not cry, especially during a yoga class
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and at the end and you're just like, I'm going
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to hold it in.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I don't want anybody see me cry.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Just cry because I promised that it's going to be
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: way more of a dramatic moment, trying to keep whatever
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: that is it needs to be out released. And so yeah,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: that's why I say work with what you got friends,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: be kind, be patient, work with yourself.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit then, in this meditation series,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: what are some of the cornerstones, What are the things
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: that you feel to be very important that help us
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: get better sleep.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: The one thing is that these are in ten minute increments.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: People have been doing these this whole series in seven days,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: and the feedback has been beautiful. A lot of people
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: who started they're just like, Okay, ten minutes, I'm gonna
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: make this commitment.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: They fall asleep in the first three minutes.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: There's something about not feeling like you have to do
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: something like, okay, y'all. Just disclaimer, is a sleep meditation
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the goal go to sleep, and then you may put
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: so much pressure on yourself that you're just like, I
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: have to go to sleep perfectly now by the end
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: of this. If I'm not asleep, I didn't do it right.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: That's not true. So I love that we have these
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: ten minute increments, that that's the commitment, see what happens.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I also know that meditation is not easy for everyone,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: so anchors are always great. The breath mantra, visualization like
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: these are all of the techniques that we use to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: support us to get more present with our meditation and
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: then with sleep meditation. My goodness, like what a wonderful goal.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Like I know that a lot of people are excited
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: about their streaks on Peloton, and for non Peloton users members,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that just means that you are consistently showing up to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: yourself in some way. Sleep meditations count, So making that like, okay,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: if you missed a day of whatever it was that
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you were going to do on the platform, make sure
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that you count yourself in for that sleep meditation. And
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: so while we have thirty minute sleep meditations on the platform,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: these ten minute increments during the seven days to better sleep.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: To me or just like Chef's kiss, it's just like
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: ten minutes I can do that, I can do.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: That, ten minutes, you can do that.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: And if you're going to take at least five minutes
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: to fall asleep anyway, it seems like a no brainer.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Now, for someone that may be in this mode as
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you talked about, it's like I have to do this
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: ten minute meditation or I want it to be perfect,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: that perfectionism is seeping in. How can they break from
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: that attachment and really just take the practice for what
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I again, journaling is my best friend. I've been
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a journaler ever since I was a little girl and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I was called a diary. And it's just like when
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I look back when I read the words of fifteen
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: year old Chelsea, like of even twenty one year old Chelsea,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and I see how much I've grown, even in something
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like a seven day practice. If you just have like
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a sentence or a word or two minutes of just
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: free and just saying I'm just gonna write, right, rite,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: whatever happens, whatever comes up after the meditation, look back
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: on it and you will see the growth. And to me,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that's the motivation. Like this is such a personal experience, meditation, sleep,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: like all of these things, So only you, only the user,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: only the practitioner, only the meditator is going to know
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: how truly beneficial this is. So why not document it,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: make a picture, draw a picture about it?
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Afterwards?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Like just something to one remind you that you did it,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and to two for you to be able to see, wow,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I've really grown since this first day that I didn't
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: think I could make it through a ten minute meditation.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of the word grown.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: As you reflect again on this anniversary five years at Peloton,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: what would you say some of the most transformational parts
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: of this experience have been for you?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely definitely seeing my self in this way. There has
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: been no other experience where I can turn on the
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: TV or turn on my app and take one of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: my classes and you know, I know a lot of
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: people say when I hear my voice play back, I'm like,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, And it's just like that was a
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: practice for me. That was a practice for me to
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: hear myself and so that has been transformative for me
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: to love my voice, to understand that people love my voice,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: with especially the sleep meditations as one of my most popular,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you know, ways that I reach folks. I will definitely
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: say the community. I had no idea what I was
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: getting into Peloton. I had no idea of the tremendous
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: just open arms that people were way for me. And
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: that's what that to add to a question that you
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: asked earlier, like no one is you, Like how dare
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you compare yourself to anyone else? It was just like
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: they were waiting for me and wherever else you want
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: to go, and you're listening and maybe it's not yoga
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and fitness, maybe it is. You know, whatever your goals are,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: they're waiting for you. You just have to step into
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: and own your purpose of those that journey that got
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: you to where you are, and so community hearing my
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: own voice step into her power, and just to know
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: that people who never thought that they could practice yoga
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: and meditation are now certified yogi's and meditators and that
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: means so much to me.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: You look back on these five years and there is
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: so much that makes you feel a little bit better
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: side yourself in awe. Right when you think about moving forward,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: where do the goals go from here?
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Chelsea?
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: The goals go to continue to normalize yoga meditation. I
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: think that because you know yoga and meditation proceeds even
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: fitness in general, how we experience fitness, especially in the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Western world, that it can feel overwhelming. You can feel like,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I need to learn all of these
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: things before I consider myself a yoga practitioner. I just
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: want to normalize yoga and meditation so much that it
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: just becomes this household practice, it becomes a framework for
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: how we engage each other. And so that has been
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: my goal, especially here at Peloton, at a space where
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: it's different, because usually I'm in a place where people
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: are like, this is a yoga space, So I'm going
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: to a yoga space to experience this, whereas some people
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: are finding me because they're just like, oh, oh, I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: do this, and then it's just like WHOA, I had
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: no idea that this is what yoga was or yoga is.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And so normalizing the impact that yoga and meditation can
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: have on our lives to make us more mindful, more compassionate,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: empathetic with each other, and also owning our power and
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: our power together.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Someone comes to your Instagram page, they see you as
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a Peloton instructor or Lulu Lemon ambassador. They look at
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: the numbers and they see that there are something like
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty seven thousand people there. When you
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: look in the mirror, though, Chelsea, what is it that
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you see looking back at you?
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: See this?
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Now that question makes me emotional. I see the little
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: girl from Dayton, Ohio.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Who huh.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I just see this little girl who who had no
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: idea that all the things that were hard for her,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: that she didn't think that she was good enough for.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: That.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: That is the power that allows me to reach and
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: connect with so many people, because I think that so
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: many people in this world, and I think that that's
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: where a lot of the confusion, the disagreements, the suffering, Like,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I think that it all comes from our own internalized
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: view of how we see ourselves. And we're either trying
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: to paint a picture, construct a narrative, deliver this persona
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: that protects who That little girl from Dayton, Ohio who
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: thought that she was not worthy to speak up and
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: share her voice, That's who I see. And I'm just like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: we are here. We did it.
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  Speaker 4: All those scars, all of those experiences, you did that
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  Speaker 4: and they were for this moment, and they were for
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  Speaker 4: this stepping into and owning your power right now.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Chelsea, it really is so special the way that
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  Speaker 2: you own your power, the way that you inspire others
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  Speaker 2: to be their own biggest hype man. And speaking of
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  Speaker 2: being your own biggest hype man, woman, should I say,
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  Speaker 2: right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a
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  Speaker 2: piece of advice. Looking back on that hurdle moment when
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  Speaker 2: you were taking your first yoga class, unsure of what
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  Speaker 2: it was that you were seeking, but knowing that you
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  Speaker 2: needed to process the grief and step into your power.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing what you know now, Chelsea, what would you tell
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  Speaker 2: your younger self?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to know that you are enough, to know that
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  Speaker 1: you have everything that you need to get over that
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  Speaker 1: hurdle right now. It may not feel like it, it may
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  Speaker 1: not look like it, you may not even be able
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  Speaker 1: to imagine it. But if you truly believe that what
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  Speaker 1: you have inside of you right now is enough, then
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  Speaker 1: anything is possible.
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  Speaker 3: Doctor Chelsea Jackson Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: For those that don't follow along with you on social
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  Speaker 2: just yet, where do we find you?
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  Speaker 3: How can we keep up.
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  Speaker 4: Your Chelsea loves Yoga.
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  Speaker 1: It's been there for so long. It's so wild that
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, what should I take? It was
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  Speaker 1: really a website. It was a website that started first
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  Speaker 1: and it just became my social tag everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: So Chelsea loves Yoga.
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  Speaker 2: I'm over at Hurdle podcast and at Emily Abadi another
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  Speaker 2: hurdle conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.