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[6/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 4 (Aug 2020) · Lama Lena Teachings

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: And it says I have Facebook.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: YouTube is up.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: But not Facebook.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to continue with just YouTube?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: If we have to.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: We'll just inform people by checking.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Not temporary either.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: For both of those extremes, temporary and eternal, are labels that you put on things.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: This ain't no thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not a void, for there is brilliance and awakeness to it.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's not a big empty old nothing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is filled with clear light by which the seer sees.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: This is the same thing as saying it is filled with lucidity.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is filled with vitality.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's many ways we can say this, but they're all euphemisms for the inconceivable.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not unity, for multiplicity is self-evident in perception.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: Look at all the stuff you see.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: I got stuff all around me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Flowers and fruit and a candle and books and everything imaginable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hats, dilly-bobs, tchotchkes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it is not a singularity for multiplicity is obvious.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is not multiplicity
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  SPEAKER_01: for we know the singularity of its taste.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Let go of trying to tell yourself or me about it.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: You can't.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: It won't go in words.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: You can't talk to yourself about it.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: You can point at it with words, but the finger is not what is pointed at.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: Remarkably unsatisfying.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think I'll drink the coffee instead of the finger pointing at it.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: You can leave your attention to it with words.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Martin, I'm on 72.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: I randomly opened it since nobody was coming up.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: This is Keith Dowman's translation.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: He just came up with a help.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: I need to read the text while translating, and I know that feeling.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because so do I.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: So he's watching via YouTube, or he's watching this, Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know where he's coming in from.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Carry on.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: I just occasionally see a comment across the top of the phone,
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  SPEAKER_01: and will respond to it if I spot it and can read it.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's Streamlabs Wrangling Chat, which is good.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Look.
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  SPEAKER_01: All of these side conversations about what page we're on and what's going on and
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: where we are and how I'm knowing that someone might need a page number,
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: which you really only need if you're translating for now.
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  SPEAKER_01: This in no way changes it,
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  SPEAKER_01: blocks it,
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  SPEAKER_01: or interferes with that utterly ordinary mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: that ordinary perception which is naturally naked and unadorned.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing makes it go away because nothing made it come.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can trust it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But don't take my word for this.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: Check up on it.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: See if it's there at all times, on all occasions, whatever you're doing.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: Check.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is your mind still there?
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Big mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just check up on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not an external function, for presence is intrinsic to immediate reality.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are this.
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  SPEAKER_01: You always have been.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't look at it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Be it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You look out from this ordinary awareness rather than looking in at it.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the key to stepping past duality.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: Now this is going to,
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  SPEAKER_01: this next paragraph is going to be in Tibetan thought pattern linguistic analogy.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'll retranslate it after.
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  SPEAKER_01: First I'll say all the words in English.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then I'll tell you what a Tibetan meant by those words.
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  SPEAKER_01: In the immediate here and now we see the face of the original Lord abiding in the heart center.
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  SPEAKER_01: Identify yourself with him, my spiritual sons.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whoever denies him,
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  SPEAKER_01: wanting more from somewhere else,
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  SPEAKER_01: is like the man who has found his elephant but continues to follow his tracks.
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  SPEAKER_01: He may comb the three dimensions of microcosmic world systems for an eternity,
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  SPEAKER_01: but he will not find so much as the name of the Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_01: Other than the one in his heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're using the word heart here a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Understand an untrained Westerner,
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  SPEAKER_01: even a slightly trained Westerner,
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  SPEAKER_01: is still going to interchange brain and mind as words.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you get your head around it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Western example.
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  SPEAKER_01: I keep trying to keep the idea of Tawa in my head,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it falls out, Western way of putting things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Substitute head for heart in all those allegorical euphemisms because that's where
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  SPEAKER_01: the Tibetans feel themselves to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just as you are taught by your culture and by the linguistic patterns
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  SPEAKER_01: of your culture to feel yourself in your head,
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  SPEAKER_01: And when you say a man is crazy, you go like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tibetans have the same movement for a man is crazy, but they do it differently.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see, that's what is meant by heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Open up all the hims and hisses and sons into gender irrelevant
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  SPEAKER_01: because it really isn't gender relevant in here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the face of the original Lord is a euphemism
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  SPEAKER_01: for Kuntuzangpo,
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  SPEAKER_01: for the
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  SPEAKER_01: innate enlightened nature that pervades all life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you understand that you are to identify
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  SPEAKER_01: with and as that enlightened nature
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  SPEAKER_01: that pervades all life rather than identifying as Mickey Mouse looking at that?
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the key.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you stand in your personality going, I'm Joe Smith, And I'm looking at Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: It will never stabilize.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can only stabilize it from inside.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I am looking out at all the varied personalities I have had during the day
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  SPEAKER_01: that go by the name of Joe Smith.
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  SPEAKER_01: And all the many doings that that person has done.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you see?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like taking a step in another direction and standing there instead of in your usual place.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've said this in every way I can, but this is really the most important part of meditation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to see Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yar Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Questions on this one point and
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: then somebody tell me what chapter we're actually supposed to be on.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: This was just where my text fell open today.
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  Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I figured to get started you've been all so patient through
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  SPEAKER_01: the technical glitches and giggly mamos.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Not yet questions.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: People may need a bit of time.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: We just got the question chain set up properly.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would like if somebody would just come on and tell me what chapter we're supposed
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: to be on with this group who's been following through from the beginning.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: According to Nick, he says Psalm 6.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what we were just doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're in the right place.
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  SPEAKER_00: Talk about the earlier part too, e-comments.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: This is me looking at YouTube chat.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see, questions have not yet come in through Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, they will.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stick a finger up like this so I see it,
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  SPEAKER_01: because I'll check on you occasionally if stuff starts coming in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because what I just gave you guys is the heart of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the secret key without which you can't get it to work.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's not in the books.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: It is in the books, but it's in the books in allegory in Tibetan think.
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  SPEAKER_01: So as a Westerner, you're likely to miss this incredibly vital point.
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  SPEAKER_01: When it says, identify yourself with the original Lord, that'll go right by.
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  SPEAKER_01: Identify yourself with the Sambhogakaya, the center point between Dharmakaya and Nirmanakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nirmanakaya is the dance of form.
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  SPEAKER_01: In its pure form, it's called nirmanakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: In its confused form, it's called samsara.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's all the stuff and all the thoughts about the stuff and all the feelings about
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  SPEAKER_01: the thoughts about the stuff and all the thoughts about the feelings and
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  SPEAKER_01: the feelings about the thoughts and the stuff that comes and goes within all of
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  SPEAKER_01: that, all tangled up together.
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  SPEAKER_01: That in its pure form,
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  SPEAKER_01: seen truly and purely,
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  SPEAKER_01: without being distorted by neuroses and hangups, is called nirmanakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: Truku.
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  SPEAKER_01: The vitality that permits that to occur,
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  SPEAKER_01: nirmanakaya, Is the shimmer, the sparkle of the clear light nature of mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Clear light, remember it's got nothing to do with a bright light.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here, have some clear light.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have a big bunch of it in my hands right here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you see it?
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  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing to see.
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  SPEAKER_01: Clear light.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is a symbol for the ability to see.
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  SPEAKER_01: The ability to see is itself a symbol for awake awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is inherent in the Tibetan language.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not inherent in the English language, so it needs to be parsed and spelled out to people.
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  SPEAKER_01: From the aspect of individuality,
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  SPEAKER_01: of individual personality,
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  SPEAKER_01: you will be able to perceive Dharmakaya nature of mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: but you will not be able to stabilize that perception.
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  SPEAKER_01: Perceptions don't stabilize.
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  SPEAKER_01: Perceptions are part of the moving.
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  SPEAKER_01: In Mahamudra,
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  SPEAKER_01: which some of you have a nodding,
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  SPEAKER_01: Even though we're going through a Zogchen text,
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  SPEAKER_01: we divide it into moving and stillness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Moving is phenomena because it moves.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stuff moves.
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  SPEAKER_01: It comes and goes.
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  SPEAKER_01: You lose it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It gets dirty.
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  SPEAKER_01: You drop it on the floor.
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  SPEAKER_01: It breaks.
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  SPEAKER_01: The cat chews through the cord.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's moving.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's changing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's subject to impermanence.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it is empty of concept, beyond concept.
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  SPEAKER_01: However,
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  SPEAKER_01: since the stuff,
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  SPEAKER_01: the moving,
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  SPEAKER_01: Is simply the play of the emptiness and the moving arises in emptiness as emptiness,
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  SPEAKER_01: never having actually been a thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: That midpoint,
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  SPEAKER_01: Sambhogakaya,
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  SPEAKER_01: is the innate vitality which is inherent to the emptiness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Called the clear light nature of the Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is the Sambhogakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is the innate, alive, lucid vitality which provides the possibility.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which enlivens Nirmanakaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: You gotta stand in the middle if you wanna see both.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you've got to see both because they're the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you're not going to get that standing at the edge.
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  SPEAKER_01: Get in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_01: This also is an analogy.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is no middle and edge.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it is a way you can think of it analogistically in how to stabilize trecture,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is an oxymoron.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because there is nothing unstable for you to stabilize.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is simply to allow your awareness to relax sufficiently as Sambhogakaya nature
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  SPEAKER_01: of mind that it is able without tensing up into a narrow view to perceive
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  SPEAKER_01: the infinite open vast awake awareness Dharmakaya nature of mind in all its lively,
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  SPEAKER_01: playful creativity, which includes nirmanakaya nature of mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is your key.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do not be Joe Smith, Lena Farrell,
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  SPEAKER_01: Who is standing as a personality looking at Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_00: Step a little bit to the left
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  SPEAKER_00: analogistically and
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  SPEAKER_01: be the innate vitality also known
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  SPEAKER_01: as clear light nature Of the Dharmakaya nature of mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is able by its light,
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  SPEAKER_01: its clear light nature means ability to perceive,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is able to perceive the dancing stillness.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I have mixed maha mudra and maha ati terms all in here
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  SPEAKER_01: and it really doesn't matter because they point at the same thing.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Let me go back to the beginning of Song 6 because where this text opened was rather
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  SPEAKER_01: in the middle of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And not being sure where we were, I just started with the opening.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have questions?
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me stop for a moment there then.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Hart Center for Westerners is also a place of great feeling and feelings are impermanent.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is there some confusion there for people?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Brain is the great center of thinking and thoughts are impermanent.
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  SPEAKER_01: The phenomena, it's all impermanent.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: We use in Tibetan the heart in the way we use in English the head.
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  SPEAKER_01: In speech, in common speech euphemistically.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am not saying,
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  SPEAKER_01: and we are not saying here,
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  SPEAKER_01: climb into your heart center where all your feelings be happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: When we talk about perceiving the face of the original Lord in your heart center,
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  SPEAKER_01: that means it's an analogy.
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  SPEAKER_01: That means recognizing your own innate Buddha nature as you,
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  SPEAKER_01: the recognizer, rather than as something outside it, looking at it.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes thoughts come up randomly during the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are these thoughts being temporarily held in the body somewhere?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you think they're made of that you would put in a place?
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  SPEAKER_01: Your thoughts are in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're more likely to hold stress
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  SPEAKER_01: and emotions here and there in your body
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  SPEAKER_01: because you believe in them and tighten certain muscles around them in reaction
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  SPEAKER_01: to them.
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  SPEAKER_01: The emotion is not being held in the body.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your reaction to the emotion is being held in the body.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Next?
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  SPEAKER_00: A couple of questions about the mamos.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know we wanted to cover more about that tomorrow,
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  SPEAKER_00: but what comments do you have today about the mamos and what are they
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  SPEAKER_00: and why are they important?
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  SPEAKER_01: In the, again,
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  SPEAKER_01: Tibetan way of thinking,
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  SPEAKER_01: Which is no more or less real than the Western way of thinking.
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  SPEAKER_01: The mamos are the symbol.
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  SPEAKER_01: Symbolic cause.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are demons.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, they are entities.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's the difference between a god and a demon?
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  SPEAKER_01: Whether you like their agenda or not, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: If you like the agenda, you call it a god or a little god or a nature god, a forest spirit.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't like the agenda, you call it a demon.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they're really pretty much the same species.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've never really been able to tell the difference between them other than
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  SPEAKER_01: whether I personally like their agenda or not.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Most of them are pretty Self-fixated or fixated in protecting a particular thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as long as you don't want to harm that particular thing, you're cool with them.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you do harm that particular thing, they get all demonic at you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nibble on your toes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the mamos are a kind of demon that spread plague and bad weather,
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  SPEAKER_01: storms, earthquakes, and forest fires.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Tibetans would consider them to be the underlying cause of the climatic
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: and viral upheavals going on on Earth.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: The Mamos are not interested in whether or not human beings abuse each other.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't react to that.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: However,
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: they are very interested And whether or not human beings abuse the environment
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  SPEAKER_01: and they react strongly to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can think of them as Gaia's immune systems, her white cells.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: And if we don't get global warming under control at some point, they will wipe us out, we hope.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
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  SPEAKER_01: So that all other beings can survive, make room for the next prime predator.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Homo sapiens are of no great value.
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  SPEAKER_01: Currently, they're of rather poor value.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow I'm going to talk about how to work with the Mamos,
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: since they're definitely working with us.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, California's on fire.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Louisiana is flat from windstorms, and they're coming from other directions as well.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: There's a pandemic surrounding the world going everywhere, killing lots of people.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: What else has happened recently?
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: We've got storms, we've got forest fires.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's a whole bunch of floods and fish die-offs.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: And the fire started because of lightning storms.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the fire started because of lightning storms.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: The dragons will often work with the mamos.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's for tomorrow, to talk about that and to talk about both practical and magical ways
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  SPEAKER_01: To work with the mamos.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe a little bit about social justice as well, although that is not of interest to mamos.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is of interest to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I'm a homo sapien.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I care about how homo sapiens treat each other.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: Any other questions here?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: About Tawa, does the shift to Tawa make a change to your center of perception?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: Does it sometimes appear to be above and behind the shoulder?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: It appears to be in a placeless place.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's not in a different place within all the places,
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: like to the left or the right, in front or behind, above or below.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Another direction
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: that I can't point in with fingers,
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: only with words.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Follow your thoughts home.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of listening to what you're thinking or feeling
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: or perceiving,
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: shift your attention from the what to the where.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: When the perception of an infinite vast luminosity arises,
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: shift your point of where you are perceiving from
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: To be that very luminosity of that infinite vastness,
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: its awake awareness, rather than some body looking at it.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: So in finding Tawa, you start finding it.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: By following your thoughts home to your mind, you find your own mind.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: At first,
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: there's almost a double vision where there's a you looking at your mind,
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: which seems kind of silly, but that's what it feels like.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then you shift
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: to be that infinite open awareness of mind looking out at everything else.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's your shift of perception.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: Will there be upheavals when shifting identity from personality to Tala?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see why there should be,
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: unless you happen to like upheavals and like writing your own personal story
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: with lots of upheavals,
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: in which case you'll get a whole bunch of nyams and you might even freak out
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: about them because for some part of you,
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: you think that's fun or gets you attention or something.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: But it's not a given.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: Some people like to do it that way with upheavals.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: I was always a great one for upheavals and strong whiskey and coffee black
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: and liked my stories intense.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: So early on in my practice I was always having upheavals because I like them.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: After a while I realized that that wasn't necessary and that was just me wanking off
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: with my practice.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: So you might.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's up to you.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Can you talk about the connection of Togel and Trekshut?
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: In order to do Togel.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I misspoke that.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: In order to accomplish the not doing of Togel.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: You need to have found the inherent stability of Treksha.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: And you need to have been able to rest in that through assorted intensities of experience.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: This is necessary or Togel won't work.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: It can only be done from a certain aspect of relaxation.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: And if I were to teach it to you before you had the necessary,
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: develop the necessary abilities with Treksha, I'd just be whistling in the wind.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't do any good.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'd have wasted a nice retreat where I could have been teaching something
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: to someone they might understand.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Or be able to accomplish.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not gonna bother myself to do that until we've got a good dozen people
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: who might have a chance of doing it.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then I've got a place for a good retreat on it down in Mexico.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: Now there are differences of opinion.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: Some people think togel can be given earlier and will help to stabilize dregja.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: But that has not been my experience seeing or for myself.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: One gets all excited about the pretty pictures
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: without having recognized
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: the inherent stability of Treptya.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really not the point.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's just, oh, wow,
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: how proud I saw this color and I saw that color and this happened and yay,
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: yay, I'm doing it.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting somewhere.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's not Tokyo.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's with practices.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, I will teach it.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: And yes, Rinpoche taught it.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: He only taught it to individuals.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking I've got a good Dozen or so students out there who may be ripening by
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: the time we're ready to travel again that I could take down to Mexico and do this
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: with and teach it to.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to be one of them, work on your treacher in a utterly relaxed way.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: You don't do treacher.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: You be
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: At all times and on all occasions,
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: notice the already recognized dharmakaya nature of mind as the noticer.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like that you do it.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's a not doing.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: Enough on togya.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: We're not doing that yet.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: Is the where of Tawa and the truth that one is Tawa found in open awareness?
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: One is the open awareness.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: The perceiver and the perceived as Tawa.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the questions for now.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: How are we doing?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing okay.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: We actually got this going this morning for a while.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: I was thinking we were going to have to come back and try again tomorrow.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Tech.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't be doing this without it, but it does drive one a bit up the wall occasionally.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: Emma Ho!
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Again, beloved children of my heart, listen.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Mind, this universal concept,
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: this most significant of words,
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: being no single entity manifests as the gamut of pleasure and pain in samsara
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: and nirvana.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: Your mind, it's not a thing.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's not in your brain.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: Your brain is part of it, as is your heart and your energy channels,
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: your chakras.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: But they are not the totality of it.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: There are as many beliefs about it as there are approaches to Buddhahood.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: And it gets called all sorts of things.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: In common speech, it's called I, me.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: We refer to our minds,
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: the thinker of our thoughts,
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: the feeler of our feelings, the perceiver of our perceptions as me, I.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yesterday I cooked such and such.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow I will do such and such.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: I.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's your mind.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_01: Hindus call it self.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sravaka's selfless individual.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: In the mind only school, they call it mind.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: Some call it perfect insight.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: Innate Buddha nature.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Magnificent stance.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's a translation of maha mudra.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think the original that got translated here as magnificent stance was maha mudra
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: because that's what maha and mudra mean.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Some of it call it the middle way.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: The doer of the deeds.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Cosmic seed.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't heard that one except from hippies.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: Reality continuum.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that works.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Universal ground.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: Ordinary consciousness.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: All of these are words, labels we apply to natural mind.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: And there are more that I'm not even going to try to mention or think up.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you want to call it, George, perhaps.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Know it for what it really is.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_01: Know it experientially.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: Experientially.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: In the here and now.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: Compose yourself in the natural state of your mind's nature.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: And this is what came before where we started.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure reading more words at you
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: is really going to make the difference.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you have questions, I will answer them.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: But this is too important for me to muddy the waters by moving on to the next chapter as yet.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because this is the chapter that's the key.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: This is the chapter of the pointing out instructions.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: This, although they repeat again and again, this is the chapter of the four wongs.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: Look at mind with mind.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: These are very simple instructions.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: All the other words I've given you simply amplify and explain them.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: Your mind has a point of attention.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: This is held in the pattern of your energy channels.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: This particular
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: reality of homo sapiens
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: is held in the energy channel pattern of
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: a homo sapien body.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: If you were able to change your energy pattern, you could shift dimensions.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: You could shift into the hell realms or the God realms.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: All sorts of directions.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is why we have a wide variety of Ruchen practices to assist you
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: in making your energy channels more flexible.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: In dream yoga, you are not held to a homo sapien energy body form.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: When we get to the point in the Dream Yoga teachings,
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: I will show you how to shift your energy body to be other things,
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: unimaginable things, shift into other dimensions.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: It helps increase the flexibility
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: It is your energy body that holds you in this reality.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not a shared reality.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: Each single one of you has dense and frizzy bits and bold spots and dense spots
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: in how your energy channels wrap.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: And those spots Are your own personal karma,
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: your Pagchas,
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: shall we say your personal neuroses, held by and in the energy channel.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: They result from decisions and actions you've made in the past.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Understand, when you have PTSD, if you have post-traumatic stress,
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's not what happened to you that left those dents.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's how you perceived what was happening to you at the time and afterwards.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: And the choices you made of action or non-action during the occurrence,
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: that's what left the karma.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that the occurrence was there was due to your previous karma held
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: in your energy channels.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that you perceived it a certain way rather than another way was also
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: a pattern of previous karma held in your energy channels.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Until you are able
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: To
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: take advantage of your precious human opportunity.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying homo sapien, human opportunity.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: And
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: recognize and work with the innate nature of your own mind, kuntu zankpo.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: You don't really have all that much free will
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: because you're mostly just reactive like an animal.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: We are by practice developing free will.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: You think someone who abuses children has free will, chose to do that, but not really.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: The compulsion arose perhaps because they were abused as a child.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: How did that happen?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because perhaps in past lives they abused children.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see you can cycle into it and dig yourself in way deep with karma?
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's why Treksha is so important.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: It is the singular most powerful karmic purification practice you can do.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: It trumps Vajrasattva.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: But this is only the case if you can really do it.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: Pretending to do treksha is not the most powerful purification practice.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: So since some of us are uncertain of our abilities with Treksha,
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: we throw in a little Vajrasatva at the end of the day, just in case.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: See, the Tibetan system is really practical and everything's got backup.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: In that climate up there, with that wind chill factor, if you don't have backup, you dead.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: So,
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Even the greatest of teachers back up their treksha with a bit of Vajrasattva
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: and
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: a little bit of Amitabha,
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: just in case they happen to panic while dying, which could happen if it's sudden.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Or the wrong circumstances, or highly painful, or something something.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: And you never know,
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: you got all sorts of old karma crappily in there from infinite beginningless time.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: So you hedge your bets.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, you figure you can go through on Treksha.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: A little insurance never hurt anybody.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's the Tibetan attitude.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: You guys who grow up with guardrails on everything may not get it.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: Tibetan kids play on the roof.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Roof doesn't have any guardrail.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's the kid's responsibility not to fall off the roof.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: He knows he would get hurt.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: The survivors are practical.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_01: Your survival needs treachery.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: You will not survive intact and unharmed without it.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: There are no survivors to life.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to die.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: Do note this fact.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: Resistance is futile.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: We all die.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: And go spinning off into the unknown.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: It might be fun.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: It might be horrifying.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: Treacher.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_01: Find your mind using any of the many, many methods that I have taught you over time to do this.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: You can use the Inner Mind Ruchen.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent method.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can simply pick a thought and follow it home and see where it be happening.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: Shorter method.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: You can simply take a breath in through your nose.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: Blow out through your mouth slowly like a sigh.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: And relax
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: into the utter naturalness
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: of treacherous self.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: Not a doing and not an avoidance of doing.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: Just this.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: Completely ordinary.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: You.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: Thinker, feeler, perceiver.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: Infinite, open, vast awareness.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Alive with the clear light nature.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: The awake lucidity inherent in the infinite vast open awareness.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: Shimmering,
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: sparkling with the dance of phenomena,
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: none of which,
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: nary a thought,
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: nary a feeling, nary a thingy,
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: exists anywhere other than in and as this.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: For it is the dance of the infinite open awareness
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: in all its vitality.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: Never leaves infinite open awareness.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: It never was other than this.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Relax and relax again.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: Of all the ways you want to tell yourself about it.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: Those are words.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: It won't fit.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: Leave mind be exactly as it is.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: Don't make anything fancy of it.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_01: Leave it be.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: And even that last bit, pop it.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: No thing, no not thing.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: If you're still trying to talk about it, give up.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: You can't.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_01: Won't fit in words, won't fit in ideas, won't fit in feelings.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: And you will have to transcend perceiving it for being it.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: For perceptions come and go, you'll never stabilize a perception.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Find the inherent natural stability of Treksha,
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: rather than trying to get one of the moving to hold still.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: Are there questions?
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: There are.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: We'll do a few.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: Is trekcha always a seated practice?
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: As I find it easier to enter the state when doing long-distance trekking,
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: what are your thoughts on incorporating this teaching into movement?
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: Get it seated first.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: What you are getting in long-distance trekking is probably a nyam, something closer to shine.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Once you have treksha,
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: then you can deepen it
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: in moving about in long distance treksha, in activity.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, you should.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: Don't just keep it on the cushion, but do also have it on the cushion.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: It has to do with the pattern of how your tsa hold
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: When you are merging it with daily activities such as walking meditation,
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: there are enough feelings and sensations going on so that you can
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: seem to be
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: in torture but not quite.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: It makes the simplicity of it more interesting.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_01: And that may be what you're getting with the long walking meditations, the trekking.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because although you can do trekcha very well while trekking,
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: I would think it should be just as easy while sitting.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: If it isn't, take a look and see what it is about trekking that is giving you that sensation.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a little suspicious of it.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Mind you, you might just be weird.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it might work like that.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: The infinite creativity of sentient beings must never be underestimated.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: When I completely open my mind, everything becomes very fresh and open.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: The me becomes irrelevant.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Is this treasure?
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: Now return to it again and again at all times and on all occasions.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: That will be a thousand times easier if you sit in Treksha every morning.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: It will just line up the rest of the day ever so much better,
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: even if you only sit in Treksha for five minutes.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts arise based on karma,
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: but is it correct that how we react to them is where we can find free will?
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, but you have to have enough wisdom to not follow your impulses, which are karmic.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: You see, for instance, killing.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say someone is a killer.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: They have a job exterminating termites.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they do a lot of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: It gets easier for them.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: At first,
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  SPEAKER_01: they may have not felt really comfortable exterminating termites,
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  SPEAKER_01: but after they've done it another 10 or 12 times, it's kind of easy.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_01: And they can just sort of segue into fishing and hunting.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: And from there, maybe segue into assassinating annoying politicians.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: You never know.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: There is something that happens when you do something that it gets easier and easier
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  SPEAKER_01: to do it and you create habit patterns.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it is actually going against to do free will.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_01: You have to sometimes go against your habit patterns of the five poisons,
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_01: which means you have to recognize them,
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: which means you need at least a little bit of wisdom and some knowledge of
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: the six parameters.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: And a precious human rebirth, rare though they be.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: An interesting question.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: I get this experience where I am no longer there,
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  SPEAKER_00: just the senses remain, but I can't think to say pay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you can.
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  SPEAKER_01: Write Peh, the Tibetan one.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: Download it from the internet.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: On a piece of paper and keep it on your altar right where your eyes fall on it
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_01: while you're sitting there doing that.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: So wherever your eyes go, put your little syllable Peh written down.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: You'll notice
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  SPEAKER_01: at some point and pop that
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_01: because that has gone to a,
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: you're exactly in the right place except you took one too many steps into an extreme
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: and we got to bring you back to midline there.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, that is true.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: What you are doing is that structure, but
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: A little bit of and it'll be perfect.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: So the pet should do it for you and try putting the paper there to remind you.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a difference between being aware of oneself as empty awareness
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  SPEAKER_00: and merely resting as empty awareness?
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yes.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's still a clutching on the idea of selfness in aware of oneself as empty awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whereas when one rests as empty awareness,
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: one is not facilitating,
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  SPEAKER_01: entertaining any ideas about who's being empty awareness or what you're being.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just isness.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: I find myself resting as witnessing awareness at all times.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't this treacherous?
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what you mean by witnessing, but you should be awareness, not witnessing awareness.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: There's no sense of witnessing here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Witnessing needs to coalesce,
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  SPEAKER_01: or at least my idea of what that word means, for me to witness something.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: I have to coalesce.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: I have to do a certain kind of tightening of focus.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's not what's involved here.
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  SPEAKER_01: So either we're using the word witnessing differently
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  SPEAKER_01: or no, that's not.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's really hard for me to tell because I can't see when all we've got is the words here.
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  SPEAKER_00: How to deal with fear of emptiness and losing ground of reality, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's easy.
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  SPEAKER_01: More cenrezig.
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  SPEAKER_01: That fixes it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You see,
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  SPEAKER_01: especially with the cenrezig sadhana I've taught,
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: and we're looking at getting a group up.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think Jan has offered to do some group practices with it.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: I know we have a few other people going to do some other group practices.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_01: Lama Tashi is going to do a Dzogchen group practice structure.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is all going to be over Zoom, and you're all welcome to join.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think Jan said she might do the Chenrezig group practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: This Chenrezig practice in particular
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  SPEAKER_01: is extremely effective for fear of Dharmakaya,
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  SPEAKER_01: fear of emptiness, which many people go through.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_01: When you hit that, back up in Treksha.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't push.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll sprain something.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: Simply start doing that Chen Raising practice a lot for a couple of weeks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then try Treksha again.
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  SPEAKER_01: The problem should have resolved itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see, the emptiness is not empty.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's alive with clear light.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are not about to dissolve and go away in any way
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  SPEAKER_01: that you are not already doing every moment.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_01: Enlightenment is not something new that you will get, create, build or acquire.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's always been there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing happens.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing is lost.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing is gained.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yet, freedom from suffering.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not gained, actualized.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
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  SPEAKER_00: With Treksha, there are many things I can cut through, but some I cannot.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: In particular, there is a deep sadness that gets stuck in my channels.
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  SPEAKER_00: Any suggestions?
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that sadness is a hard one.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it isn't about anything.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_01: Or rather, it is about an assortment of things and what it's about changes.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yes, I know that stuck sadness.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking to see if I have any direct methods that would work on it.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot resolve that.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a method to resolve it.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_01: However, I do have a method to make it useful,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is to focus on bodhicitta.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_01: This takes your attention away from your own sadness into the sadness
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: that is occurring among others.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uses the awareness of that sadness to motivate your practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Best I can give you.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: You might talk to Jan who has expressed a similar feeling.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not one I've run into.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the way it is experienced in Tibetans
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_01: is a little bit different.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: A Tibetan for this would use refuge, reciting the refuge mantra and doing prostrations.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if this will work on a Western deep sadness in the channels.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you give it a try?
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_01: Visualize as your object of prostration, Quintu Zangpo, Primordial Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_01: As you prostrate, gather up all the sadness in the form.
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  SPEAKER_01: All the sadness in the speech.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sadness and angst and all the negativity.
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  SPEAKER_01: All the feeling of sadness in the heart and lay it down and offer it up
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  SPEAKER_01: to Kuntuzangpo, Primordial Buddha.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_00: And as you stand back up,
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_01: stand back up as Kuntuzangpo, Primordial Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_01: Having the body Speech and mind of all Buddhas of the four times.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rest while standing, not while lying down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Full length prostrations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Give it up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stand as Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lay it down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Give up the sadness and negativities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stand as Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_01: Using any one of the refuge mantras with which you are Familiar and comfortable.
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  SPEAKER_01: That works on Tibetans that I've used this with.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: I have not had a Westerner try this and see if it works on Westerners.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: It should.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_01: Theoretically, give it a try and do keep me posted by email how that's going for you.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_01: I figure you should see some effect on that bone deep sadness within
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  SPEAKER_01: About 30,000 prostrations maybe?
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_01: 20?
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think you have to really push at it.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's this part of what makes this work is the sense of almost overextending oneself.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_01: Pushing oneself physically as far as possible.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see what that number will be for you.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not assigning a number.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_01: I am saying you want that sensation in each session that you do
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_01: of having pushed yourself physically to the brink but not over it.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's part of what works.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is staring at empty sky in Treksha better than in a room or is it exactly the same?
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_00: I tend to prefer open sky.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_00: Something lightens up through the eyes.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_00: Room is okay, but I prefer open sky.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's really fine.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_01: It actually makes no never mind,
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_01: and you should be able to be in treksha,
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_01: or you want to work on noticing treksha,
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_01: on entertaining treksha, on noticing mind itself, As mind, both inside and outside.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_01: However, environment does affect one.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_01: It affects the tone of the feeling.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Your treacherous still has a tonality to it.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_01: But it's still really good.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Just keep going.
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  SPEAKER_01: Eventually the tonality will be transcended as well.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_01: But don't push that river.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_01: Don't push it at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, practice facing the sky as much as you can.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_01: And when you can't, practice inside too.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_00: When is-ness arises, similar to after completion stage in Tantra, I do peh and nothing happens.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Am I doing it wrong?
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's something that you can just leave be.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to pop that with pay.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see where it goes.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_00: Take one more question.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: I notice I'm beginning to tire.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_01: My answers are getting shorter.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I can tell.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_00: I am an old person.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is there a substitute for prostrations?
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is this the person who asked the question the first time?
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, I believe it's a different one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not really.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_01: However,
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  SPEAKER_01: there are ways of doing prostrations with the board slanted upwards
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_01: or with
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: the board raised so that it's easier to get up and down from.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you will get more out of less prostrations because they're harder to do.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you can't get down there at all,
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: get a table like this and do waist prostrations.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_01: My head's cut off, but you'll deal.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, unless there's anything really pressing out there, I think we're done.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you want to end it here?
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything really pressing out there?
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to take a look.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of questions about Trektur.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's one statement I think you should address.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody posted that they just got COVID,
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_00: and they're very upset with themselves and humanity over that.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have a comment?
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_01: That won't help.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Being upset with the Mamos,
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: yourself, other people, how will that help you deal with the illness?
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's rather futile.
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_01: There is a lot of confusion around.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think your upsetness may be a transliteration of simple fear.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_01: You might be scared of dying or of suffering.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_01: I do have a tape on the website on how to die.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_01: If it looks like you're going that way, I suggest you watch it.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, please, please forgive yourself and others.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_01: There isn't that much point in changing your fear into annoyance or anger.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a virus.
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's not your fault or anyone else's.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody did it on purpose.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_01: There are a lot of confused people who don't know how to avoid it.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_01: And do this and that and explain to themselves and their fears all sorts of strange theories.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_01: You don't need to add to that.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Take care of yourself.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_01: See your doctor.
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_01: There are treatments that are beginning to work.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_01: They have a number of them.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Get into one of the experimental things if it's active.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think they've found a couple of things.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_01: And forgive.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Really work on forgiving.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Manny's will help you.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_01: If you can use Manny's and the visualization to send out the blessing of life
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_01: to all life, opening your heart,
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_00: you will feel ever
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_01: so much better.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really what we want, isn't it, us sentient beings?
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_01: Is to feel better?
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, yes, that was an important one.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_01: And stay in touch with me by email.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_01: We'll talk.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Gay one dear.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_01: My
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_01: all beings
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_01: be happy.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_01: May all beings be free.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Remember why we're doing this.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's not just to pull our own foot out of the fire.
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's to pull everybody's feet out of the fire.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, what's the point?
• 1:17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And Facebook is up.