Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Your Secret Weapon: Becoming the Trusted Resource in a Price-Sensitive Market
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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
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- 0:45Today on the podcast, we're going to tackle a question that
- 0:49I suspect is on the mind of most of you, especially those of you
- 0:54who have businesses that are already running, not people who
- 0:57are thinking of getting into business, but you know, you've
- 0:59been running a business and things seem to be going OK
- 1:03until, you know, like around that kind last election, fuel
- 1:07subsidy removal, you know, all of that.
- 1:10So today a question for you guys.
- 1:13And the question is how do I sell effectively in a market
- 1:16with low purchasing power or fluctuating economic conditions?
- 1:22So let me repeat, how do you sell effectively if you've been
- 1:26in business for a while and now that people have low purchasing
- 1:29power because you know that there's hyperinflation in Niger
- 1:33and you know, today the economy is like this.
- 1:35The economy is like that, dollar is like this dollar is like
- 1:38that. And trust me, it's a real thing
- 1:40because, you know, I've been consulting for different kinds
- 1:42of clients, you know, people who sell services, people who sell
- 1:45products. So it actually is a thing that
- 1:47when dollar goes from like this to like this, you start
- 1:49wondering, hey, oh, we sell now before we're selling at, you
- 1:53know, 950K and people are complaining now with this dollar
- 1:59shift, we have to be selling at this, this, this how we're going
- 2:01to do this thing. So these are questions that
- 2:04people ask themselves all the time.
- 2:07And if you're not there yet, don't worry.
- 2:08This is one of the exciting things that we have to look
- 2:10forward to in business. And you know, nothing in life is
- 2:14easy. That's just how that's just how
- 2:16it is. So, you know, people in
- 2:20business, they're worried inflation is going on.
- 2:22How do we address this? Currency devaluation is going
- 2:25on. What does currency devaluation
- 2:27means? I don't even understand what The
- 2:28thing is here. Are we are we going to address
- 2:31this? How is this going to impact our
- 2:33pricing? How is this going to impact our
- 2:35sales strategy? Those are some of the questions
- 2:38that we are going to look at today.
- 2:39Now, First off, let's look at what everybody's doing so we can
- 2:42figure out what to do or what not to do.
- 2:47Please, we should be learning from other people's experiences.
- 2:50I'm not one of these people who believes.
- 2:52Let me go ahead and make my own mistake.
- 2:55And I've noticed that some young people will say, let me make my
- 2:57own mistake, usually when it has to do with, you know,
- 3:00relationship and sexual stuff. And in my mind, I'm thinking,
- 3:03you know, you are an idiot. If there's any other aspect in
- 3:06any other aspect of your life, you will say, let me make my
- 3:09mistake. You will say, oh, because
- 3:12cousin, you know, what you've said is true, is true, is true.
- 3:15Let me avoid this thing when I, when it comes to relationship.
- 3:17Oh, no, let me make my own mistakes and my mind, I'm like,
- 3:20you're a bugger. You're an idiot, you know, learn
- 3:23from people's experiences regardless.
- 3:25Anyway, that's just a side note. So what are other people doing
- 3:29now? Now we know that people have
- 3:33been lowering prices left, right and centre or people have been
- 3:36discounting. That's the typical response
- 3:38whenever things become hard. People lower prices and people
- 3:42discount because after all, they say Nigerians are price
- 3:45conscious, Abby. But I mean, think of it, is
- 3:50there any society where people are not price conscious?
- 3:53I really wish people would stop throwing around this whole
- 3:55Nigerian price sensitive thing all over the place.
- 3:58If you go to India, they're not price conscious.
- 4:00Or if you go to Ghana, they're not price conscious.
- 4:02Or if you go to America, they're not price conscious.
- 4:04Or Canada or the Uki beg, let's stop throwing up all kinds of
- 4:10things that are neither here nor there.
- 4:12There is no, the only difference is just that in some places
- 4:15like, you know, India, Nigeria, Egypt, you know, in places like
- 4:22that, you know, Malaysia, pricing is just the culture.
- 4:26So people want to haggle you, you know, die.
- 4:29That's that's the only thing I can give.
- 4:34But when it comes to price sensitivity, price sensitivity
- 4:38is a universal thing. And for those of us who studied
- 4:42economics, you know, in secondary school, you know,
- 4:45secondary school, you know, it's, it's a universal, what do
- 4:49they call it? Price elasticity.
- 4:52I think we studied on that price elasticity.
- 4:55You come up with models for when you change the price to this,
- 4:59how does demand shrink or how does demand expand?
- 5:02So this one is just reality of life.
- 5:04So or basically people lower prices and then people start
- 5:07discounting. Then there's some people who
- 5:09reduce quality, and then there are other people who reduce
- 5:14quantity. You know, there's a difference
- 5:16and I'll explain between reducing quality and then
- 5:20reducing quantity. But let's start with the easy
- 5:23one. Now reducing quality.
- 5:25Now quality, how will I put it? Quality is when you start to
- 5:30remove some of the good stuff so they can save prices.
- 5:34Generally, that is a bad idea. So you'll be wondering what do
- 5:38you mean by that? OK, let's take a trip down
- 5:40memory lane. During the military era, as
- 5:45things started to go really, really bad, you know, the
- 5:48economy was really, really tanking.
- 5:50It is well known and well documented even in the press
- 5:53that what was this thing called? Is this Zakarin?
- 5:56I think it's Zakarin. I think they used to make bread.
- 5:59So in Nigeria. Now, I don't know much about
- 6:02baking, but for those of you who know about baking, you'll be
- 6:04able to vouch that what I'm saying is true.
- 6:08So was well documented in the press and well noted by
- 6:11professionals in the catering space that instead of using all
- 6:15these kinds of, you know, good, good ingredients to bake bread,
- 6:19what was happening was that bread bakers were going up and
- 6:23up and introducing more of saccharine and other stuff into
- 6:29baking is even saccharine. Let me not mislead you guys
- 6:32here. Anyway, there are some kinds of
- 6:33stuff, any basically that people are using as substitutes and
- 6:38additives to baking. And then, you know, later on it
- 6:41turned out that oh, this thing that people have been using as
- 6:45additives or substitutes in baking actually have
- 6:48carcinogenic properties. Like it turns out that they
- 6:51could have cancer. So basically there was a time
- 6:56when in Nigeria eating a giggy bread, you know, a giggy bread.
- 6:59That's the one that these children go about in Lagos with
- 7:03trays on their head, you know, shouting, I get Gabe ready, I
- 7:06get Gabe ready. I'll be how do they say it?
- 7:08I can't remember. It's been a while.
- 7:10So there's a time when eating that kind of bread was fine.
- 7:14You see them passing, you buy the bread, you make your camel,
- 7:16you make your cost that you live a good life.
- 7:19Or you see them passing, you take the bread, you walk down
- 7:22the street to buy some a car. You live a good life, you enjoy
- 7:25yourself. But then because of all these
- 7:27things that people started adding into it because of tough
- 7:31economic conditions, you know, people just stop buying.
- 7:34I gave you bread. Like if you could avoid it, like
- 7:37in my own house, you know, we could avoid it.
- 7:39So it was a matter of look, you know what, no more I gave you
- 7:41bread. Go and buy proper bread.
- 7:44So it's something that has happened before and it's
- 7:47something that will continue to happen that whenever times get
- 7:49bad, the economy is hard, Some people will say, you know,
- 7:53ordinarily I'm supposed to put three cup 3 spoons of this, 4
- 7:57spoons of that. You know, they sort of put in
- 8:00three spoons of, of this, let me reduce it, let me put 2 1/2.
- 8:05So, you know, like that, like that, like that, that's how the
- 8:07quality is going down. And even a car at some point,
- 8:12you know, I heard that some people was do I know using full
- 8:16beans to make their car that or using something else.
- 8:19But anyway, I can't remember. And then plus this, this was a
- 8:21long time ago, you know, back when I was an embryo.
- 8:23So but it's just, I'm just using that as an example to let you
- 8:27guys know that this is not theory.
- 8:29This is what happens. It has happened in the past.
- 8:32It is happening now that people are reducing quality and it will
- 8:35happen in the future. Speaking of quality, this
- 8:37particular brand of toilet paper that my mom likes to use, I've
- 8:41never liked it because they're only expensive and I won't say
- 8:43the brand's name. So I was bought their market.
- 8:45But mum see people who used to like to use the brand, you know,
- 8:48when all these things started, fuel subsidy, everything, you
- 8:51know, they started complaining that I can't believe that my
- 8:53favorite brand, that this is what they're doing, that they
- 8:56started cutting down on quality. I'd be easy fake that we're
- 8:59buying or what is it that is going on.
- 9:01But anyway, these things happen when things get bad, there's
- 9:05some people who reduce quality. Now, should we reduce quality?
- 9:10I'll leave that up to those of you who I'll leave it up to
- 9:13people in management to decide. But from the level of sales,
- 9:19now, if they call you and they say, OK, salesperson, we're
- 9:21planning on reducing quality, why should you answer them?
- 9:25From the perspective of sales, reducing quality is always a bad
- 9:28idea because it works against something that we call customer
- 9:32retention and it erodes trust. Now this is what happens when
- 9:38you reduce the quality of something.
- 9:39It gives a bad user experience. Now when people have a bad user
- 9:47experience, they don't hang around for too long.
- 9:50That is what customer retention means.
- 9:52Because in sales, we're trying to make sure that when we
- 9:54acquire a new customer today, we want them to actually be our
- 9:57customer for a while because it actually makes our job a whole
- 10:01lot easier. If you're a salesperson and
- 10:04every single week you have to go out and look for new people,
- 10:06look for new people to meet your quota.
- 10:07That kind of life is hard, but if you have a few people who are
- 10:10your customers, you know they come in once in a while, the
- 10:12call once in a while, you know, it makes your life easy.
- 10:15It reduces the amount of stress on your head.
- 10:17So reducing quality actually is going to put serious stress on
- 10:20the sales team. So from a sales perspective,
- 10:24reducing quality a bad idea. People who have a bad
- 10:28experience, once they have a bad experience, they will move.
- 10:32Once you're a root trust they will move.
- 10:35And the whole point of sales actually is customer retention.
- 10:39Get somebody and then we'll keep them as our customer for a
- 10:43while, at least for, you know, 2-3 years, 567 years before they
- 10:47move on, at least while they're still our customers.
- 10:50You know, life will be easy, small.
- 10:53So that's the whole point of sales, customer retention and
- 10:55then maximizing lifetime customer value.
- 10:58So that's why I keep saying on the podcast, and I want you
- 11:01newbies to understand that it's not about closing the sale, it's
- 11:07about opening a relationship. You can be going to be closing
- 11:10sale everywhere. That's not a problem.
- 11:12It's OK, it's good. What do you think about that?
- 11:14Opening a relationship, that one is more profitable because if
- 11:17you open a relationship, the person is around for a while,
- 11:20Money is exchanging hands, you're getting referrals, people
- 11:23are becoming buddies, you are becoming cool like that.
- 11:26No one is the one that pays more.
- 11:28So for sales, the game is always customer retention and then
- 11:32maximizing customer lifetime value.
- 11:35That's the amount of money that the customer will spend with you
- 11:38over a certain period of time. Anything that messes with
- 11:42customer retention, anything at all, it's not good for you as a
- 11:47salesperson. So if your guy is thinking of,
- 11:49let's say before they used to put 3 spoons of milk, 4 cups of
- 11:54sugar and two cups of honey and it's OK because things are bad,
- 11:59let us reduce it to one spoon of honey and two spoons of sugar.
- 12:04And you know, if they're calling to the meeting, I know if you
- 12:08give this advice or say a shot of what, what do you know about
- 12:11production? You know, but at least if that's
- 12:13their advice, you know, tell them that.
- 12:14Look, OK, anything that's going to mess with customer retention
- 12:18or that's going to erode trust is not a good idea.
- 12:21So reducing quality, bad idea. If you listen to this podcast, I
- 12:26do not expect that you will reduce quality when things get
- 12:29tough. Now let's look at reducing
- 12:33quantity. Now this thing of reducing
- 12:35quantity, sometimes it's just a matter of, you know, how far do
- 12:40as far inflation has come, things are hard, but we will not
- 12:45reduce quality. So what some people do now for
- 12:47those of us who like milk, you know, I don't have a choice
- 12:51because well, apart from the fact that I like milk, you know,
- 12:53milk for my custard and you know, milk for tea as I like
- 12:57milk. As in if if I was good, I would
- 13:00actually just wake up and have milk for breakfast.
- 13:03Just pour milk in the cup, maybe like 8 spoons.
- 13:05Then like pour hot water, pour like like four or five spoons of
- 13:10sugar. Just mix everything.
- 13:12Then take like 12 slices of bread and then just put butter
- 13:16and jam and then just eat the whole thing.
- 13:18And that's, that's my breakfast, but that's if times are good,
- 13:21but times are not good. So I'm not eating like that now.
- 13:24And some of you will say, glory be to God, that means I'm going
- 13:27to live longer. But anyway, so for those who
- 13:31also have to buy milk now because rather like milk or
- 13:34because they have small children in the house, you will have
- 13:37noticed that for peak milk 3 crowns and all these people, you
- 13:40notice that the price is still the same.
- 13:42The price has not changed. What has now changed is that
- 13:45before the package used to be 420 grams.
- 13:48One day you now notice this thing is looking small.
- 13:51You now check, you now see that, oh, it's now 370 grams.
- 13:54So those are some of the moves that these people have been
- 13:56playing on us. You know, those of us who have
- 13:58children, these are some of the moves we've been seeing biscuit
- 14:01before that used to be, you know, 400.
- 14:03Now The thing is still 400 now, but instead of the thing being
- 14:08you know, 13 milligrams or whatever, I think it's now 25
- 14:12milligrams. So they didn't want to increase
- 14:15the price. So you will say that's also also
- 14:17increased price. So what it is they left the
- 14:20price the same. They now just drop the quantity
- 14:22small, which is the same thing as a price increase in my own
- 14:26opinion. But yeah, some people play that
- 14:28game and I understand it doesn't matter of how far do this thing
- 14:32has happened if we increased price while.
- 14:36So let us find other ways to cope then, OK?
- 14:41Now how does this affect retail performance?
- 14:43Is it good? Is it bad?
- 14:44To be honest, I have no idea because I am not a retail
- 14:48specialist and my area of speciality is not in fast moving
- 14:52consumer goods, you know, like biscuits, sugar, spaghetti and
- 14:57all these sorts of things. And then I'm not an economist,
- 15:00so I don't know if it's good or bad, you know, for a business,
- 15:02how it affects sales, how it affects trust, you know, all
- 15:05these sorts of things. So should we be doing that?
- 15:09I have no idea. Just make sure you talk to a
- 15:12specialist, get the best advice before you pull that trigger
- 15:17when it comes to reducing quantity.
- 15:20Remember quantity. So reducing quality, No, never
- 15:22do that. Reducing quantity, I don't know.
- 15:24Speak to a specialist. I am not a specialist, but you
- 15:27know, we're looking at what people do.
- 15:31And yes, there are people who definitely do that.
- 15:33Now lowering prices. This is one that everybody
- 15:38defaults to the lower prices. And well, I'm not in charge of
- 15:43your business, so I won't tell you as a, as a standard rule
- 15:49that don't really don't reduce prices.
- 15:52But I will mention a few things. Don't forget that is this funny
- 15:56kind of consumer, I'll be customer behaviour.
- 16:00And this one also is universal, whether it is UK or whether it
- 16:04is Niger or America or Malaysia or Mogadishu or you know,
- 16:09whatever, this one is universal. It gets to a certain extent that
- 16:14some people start asking themselves if this thing is
- 16:17good, why is the price so cheap? This is something we should
- 16:23avoid or playing this price cutting game because eventually
- 16:27we'll enter that space that people will now start using
- 16:30price as an indicator of value. You think I'm joking?
- 16:35Think about it. You're listening to this
- 16:36podcast, you're chilling in your house, right?
- 16:39Or you're chilling in your office.
- 16:40Look at the brand of AC that people are using in the office,
- 16:43the Orca bought for the office. There's some kind of brands, you
- 16:48know, Panasonic, what again, Panasonic, LG, you know, there's
- 16:54some kind of brands and we know that they span different prices.
- 16:59And you know, you know for sure that when Mumsy and Popsy were
- 17:04pricing that AC, but when your guy was pricing the AC and or
- 17:07not, if you listen carefully, you would have heard that even
- 17:12though there are brands that cost cheaper, let's say your
- 17:16boss bought Panasonic in the office.
- 17:19Definitely there are other brands that costs cheaper.
- 17:25Some brands from Asian countries, for instance, they
- 17:27cost a lot cheaper. But at some point you all get
- 17:31hard to say, you know what we want to spend, We want to save
- 17:35money on the AC. It doesn't mean let's go and buy
- 17:37something now. Don't not give us headache in
- 17:38the future. That's why Orga said, you know
- 17:41what, just give me that Panasonic, you know, do a
- 17:44cheaper things. So we have these things going on
- 17:48and we don't to play this price cutting game.
- 17:51And then we'll now enter some kind of bands where people will
- 17:54now use look at your, your product or your service and I'll
- 17:58classify you as one of those. You know, like in the event
- 18:04space here in Abuja, there used to be a place in area 8 or area
- 18:1110 UTC, but the place has been bulldozed now because I want to
- 18:15put shops there and rent out proper shops.
- 18:20But there used to be photographers there, for
- 18:22instance, who if you go there and you are looking at that
- 18:25time, if you're looking for a photographer for maybe like 30
- 18:28KAD, 20 or 30 KAD, you want to come and take picture for your
- 18:31children's party. Yeah, you are photographers
- 18:33there. 20K, they will agree, but they will only give you soft
- 18:37copy and maybe they won't edit it.
- 18:40But then if you wanted 20K30K, you will find.
- 18:44So now you on the other hand, you're trying to build your
- 18:46photography practice. You're finding it difficult to
- 18:48secure clients and then you start dropping the price.
- 18:50By the time you're dropping your price to maybe like 40K for a
- 18:55soft copy, people might not start looking at you with the
- 18:59same eye that they're looking at UTC people.
- 19:02They'll say it's one that this guy is charging 40K30K dose I
- 19:06look at you all time. So be careful because it's
- 19:12universal. After a while people start
- 19:15looking at price as an indicator of value.
- 19:22This guy is charging 1,000,000, therefore he's approved.
- 19:26This guy is charging 500K, therefore they're all right.
- 19:30This one is charging 100K therefore it must be of poor
- 19:34quality. I don't have one M for that top
- 19:37guy, so let me just be looking for somebody within that 504
- 19:41hundred So yes, customers play those games.
- 19:45I don't think you should because it's not your favor.
- 19:50Another reason why it's not your favorite because these
- 19:55customers, I can say this from experience and I'm telling you
- 19:58for free, these people that like going around buying cheap
- 20:02things, those are the worst. They will demand heaven and and
- 20:11earth from you. When you're thinking about it
- 20:15now, I kind of understand somebody who doesn't have much
- 20:18only has cobble cobble, and he's trying to manage that cobble for
- 20:22the person. Even though your eye the money
- 20:26is small for them, it's probably the biggest money they've ever
- 20:29spent in their life. So they want to make sure that
- 20:31they get the utmost, most maximum return on that expense
- 20:36possible. So cheap customers, honestly,
- 20:41they are a pain in the neck. And if not for the fact that
- 20:45once in a while like you're broke, like you're dead broke.
- 20:49You just need some quick cash even not for situations like
- 20:52that. Honestly, I think sometimes
- 20:56let's, let's just let's just leave those people.
- 20:59They can be somebody else's headache, but they should not be
- 21:02your own headache. So these low pride customers,
- 21:04man, they can be hell or can be hell, but it's a good hell to
- 21:08experience. Because if I'm telling you,
- 21:10you've never experienced it, you understand.
- 21:12But by the time you leave it 345 times, you know, now you will
- 21:16know and it will help you run your business better.
- 21:19So you're trying to attract certain clients of clientele
- 21:23that are not part of that cheap, you know, low price level.
- 21:28Then another reason why lowering price is not a good thing is
- 21:30because this is a common saying in sales.
- 21:33You say customers who buy own price, we leave you own price.
- 21:37The person bought your product, your service, because you are
- 21:39the cheapest and people have been managing to maintain some
- 21:43small relationship. Next month, if somebody comes
- 21:46out and the person is cheaper and it looks as if people are
- 21:48the same, they will move straight, no notification.
- 21:53They will just move and then they'll stop answering your
- 21:54phone calls. You think, well, we're friends
- 21:57now, like what happened? So customers who buy on price,
- 22:00they will leave you on price. And it's confirmed there's no
- 22:06customer loyalty there. There's no customer retention
- 22:10there. You can't keep them.
- 22:11Once somebody drops the price, they're gone.
- 22:14Customer attrition is high. Attrition just means something
- 22:17that happens that causes customers to bounce, causes them
- 22:19to leave you. It is high.
- 22:21So because all these reasons that I think lowering prices not
- 22:25a good idea. But between you and me, I won't
- 22:29say this from stage, but between you and me, I understand how,
- 22:34you know, like things are off. You just close eye and then, you
- 22:37know, you just collect one of those things because like you
- 22:40need some quick cash. You know, funny enough is when
- 22:43we were in law school, one of my professors, you know, he, he
- 22:48told us during the class, he said, look, I'm not telling any
- 22:51of you to go and do charge on bill.
- 22:53So charge on bill used to be this thing back in the day.
- 22:56I don't know if they still do it now when people like you're
- 22:59broke. So you just go to the court or
- 23:01you go to the Magistrate Court, for instance, and you see people
- 23:04who show up because they don't have a lawyer or they thought
- 23:08maybe they could handle it themselves.
- 23:09And by the time they enter inside the court and they're
- 23:12overwhelmed, they're now thinking, oh, like, they need a
- 23:14lawyer. And then some people will just
- 23:16go and say, oh, you know what? I can represent you.
- 23:19I'll go inside the court now. I'll be your lawyer.
- 23:22And what you do is you just pay me.
- 23:24Thank you. Now, in legal circles, that is
- 23:28regarded as very disreputable behavior because we're supposed
- 23:31to be lawyers, are supposed to be professionals.
- 23:33How you going to be standing outside the court and then start
- 23:37hugging yourself? Like as in is it prostitution?
- 23:40Like no, no, no, no, no. Like conduct yourself was on
- 23:42decorum. So charge on bail was seriously
- 23:45frowned upon. Seriously frowned upon because
- 23:48some people will do that. You know, police come, they're
- 23:51harassing you. They're going to put you before
- 23:53court. You don't have a lawyer.
- 23:54You just say you know what? You go and talk to the person's
- 23:56relatives, you know, or you don't have lawyer.
- 23:58No problem. I'm here.
- 23:59You guys just give me 5K, you know, give me 10K.
- 24:02I'll standing for you today and I'll do my best.
- 24:05So a professor he admitted to also that in his days sometimes
- 24:11when things were rough, he will go and do charge and bail.
- 24:15That was one day he was able to get as much as I think he said
- 24:1880K or 90K like that. He just went to the court, you
- 24:22know, OK, I'll represent you. I'll represent you, you know,
- 24:261010K55K that's I was able to raise like 90 grand and then
- 24:30that's all this problem. But he admitted that he did it
- 24:32once and he only did it for one day only.
- 24:35He admits that he felt like crap and that he felt useless and
- 24:38that he felt cheap but he was able to solve his problem.
- 24:42So I understand those times come where we just close that and do
- 24:48this in shop shop I hope for the best.
- 24:51But generally lowering prices no recommended then discounting.
- 24:59As far as I'm concerned, discounting and lowering prices,
- 25:01in my own opinion, they're the same.
- 25:04It's just that, you know, discounting sometimes is
- 25:06temporary. I drop it now to get you in, but
- 25:09then it causes all kinds of problems because, you know, I
- 25:11dropped the price to get you in. Now that you're in, I want to
- 25:14raise it back to that normal. What The normal price causes
- 25:17some tension. And then of course, customers
- 25:19who buy on price live on price. So we discounted to get them.
- 25:22They are now in. You want to raise it back to
- 25:24normal price. There's another person who is
- 25:26matching the price that was your discount offer.
- 25:30Then they now leave. You know these things happen.
- 25:32So generally I'll say discounting is not a good idea
- 25:36to entice the sale. However, there are times when
- 25:42discounting is good. OK, let me put it this way.
- 25:44If you want to discount as a default to close the sale, then.
- 25:48So let me check the time August after one.
- 25:51I have to get moving soon. Now if you want to discount to
- 25:55get the sale, as a general rule that is bad.
- 25:58But if you have sat down and you have consciously thought of a
- 26:02discount strategy, then typically it can make sense.
- 26:06Now, this is one of those examples.
- 26:08And the very first time I heard it, I was like, that has
- 26:12happened to me before and that is why I'll never forget it.
- 26:16So people discount, especially in the UK and in the US because
- 26:20they're using it as an incentive to bring people into the shop
- 26:26because they have full inventory that they want to move.
- 26:30But the inventory that they're going to move now, they will now
- 26:32move it at full price or at marked up price.
- 26:37Let me say it again and let me slow down so that you guys get
- 26:40it. For those of you who didn't get
- 26:41it in America and in the UK, when they advertise 80% off, 20%
- 26:45or 50% off is because they want people to rush inside the store.
- 26:51Now, when people are inside the store, they now have other items
- 26:55in the store that have been sitting there for a long time
- 26:58and they want to move that product, but they will sell that
- 27:01one at full price. Then there's some other things
- 27:04that they will now sell and then now mark up the price.
- 27:07So in other words, even though they discounted 80%, twenty
- 27:11percent, 50% on some items, they will make it up on the other
- 27:16ones that they sell at full price or that they sell at
- 27:19marked up price at increased prices.
- 27:22So you can see that in the UK and in the US is a strategy and
- 27:27people have started using it to in certain industries here in
- 27:29Nigeria. So if it is a part of a
- 27:33deliberate strategy to move inventory like that, then yeah,
- 27:36discounting is a good idea. Like I said, I have fallen for
- 27:40it before because there's one time I had finished from work
- 27:45and I was going to anyway. Let me just leave it like that.
- 27:50Let me not say too much. So I finished from work now and
- 27:52I was just strolling around in Marks and Spencer's and then I
- 27:55saw Brazilian underwear, female underwear discounted price and I
- 28:00looked at it now I calculated that based on the money that I
- 28:04had in my wallet I could buy like 5 or 6 and my wife would be
- 28:10very happy so and I told her no this thing is going on so no
- 28:16problem let's check it out. So we went there.
- 28:19Remember they say that the Brazilian underwear was
- 28:22discounted at a certain amount. I can't remember.
- 28:27So I now calculated in my brain that with the money I have on
- 28:29hand, I can buy like 5 or 6. If I buy 6 for my wife should be
- 28:34happy. That's back when we were based
- 28:35in the UK. So went on this high Marks and
- 28:38Spencer and then my wife was really impressed because I've
- 28:42been telling her since that you know what, you have a banging
- 28:44body. You know, based on what I'm
- 28:47seeing, you shouldn't be wearing this style of underwear, should
- 28:49be wearing Brazilian. Now Brazilian will suit you.
- 28:51Well, she wasn't convinced when we enter and she saw it, she
- 28:56could see, she could see the vision.
- 28:58And so she was excited and we ended up carrying the six and I
- 29:02was like, yeah, yes, yes, yes. I spoke my baby.
- 29:05I was feeling very happy. Then by the time we got to the
- 29:08counter, the rubbish sales girl that was there, as she was
- 29:12packaging it, she now looked to my wife and say, oh, you do know
- 29:15that we have matching, matching braze Brazil for it.
- 29:20In my mind I was thinking what the hell because to be honest I
- 29:25told you that based on the money that was in my hand I already
- 29:27calculated that based on what I'm holding I can buy like 5 or
- 29:306 when I bought 6 I'm ready at the limit these useless sales
- 29:34girl. Now say that this matching
- 29:37breezy. I thought my wife was like
- 29:39really? They said yes.
- 29:40Now on the 1st floor come let me show you.
- 29:42That's how we started going. Then my heart started beating
- 29:44big big big big big. I said oh what have I entered
- 29:48into? Went upstairs.
- 29:51Now my wife was impressed when she saw the Brazilian underwear.
- 29:55When we went upstairs and my wife saw the matching Breezy, my
- 29:59wife just lost her mind. That is how we started doing
- 30:04fitting, checking different ones to match the colour.
- 30:07I was trying to argue small like what's the point now like you
- 30:10already have Breezy at home like what's the problem?
- 30:12Wife said no it has to match as it has to match.
- 30:14How she say has to match. I say nobody's seen this thing
- 30:17now like it's under your garment.
- 30:19She said no, that me, I'm seeing if it has to match, I say, hey,
- 30:22wahala. So I was sitting down there now
- 30:27and then they were doing Brazil fitting and oh, that's one of
- 30:32the things that my wife loves about the UK by the way, because
- 30:35they're very, very attentive. If you want to go and buy
- 30:38clothes in the UK, very attentive.
- 30:40You go there to the changing room, they come and meet you.
- 30:42They bring it different sizes. In fact, if you're a High
- 30:45Roller, somebody that likes to spend money, they won't bring
- 30:48you some tea and some biscuits and you know, as a real fancy
- 30:51treatment, correct treatment. So after doing that, now we're
- 30:55able to find the matching Brizzy for all of them.
- 31:00And I was in a bind. That's OK.
- 31:01What I'll do is I'll pay cash for the undies, then for the
- 31:08Brizzy, I'll put it on the card. So that's how I was able to
- 31:13escape that situation. But you see what they did, They
- 31:17advertised Brazilian on these at Social Sound.
- 31:20So discount so that foolish young men like me will say, ah,
- 31:25I can buy something for my wife. I was saving or doing discount.
- 31:29And then the scope is by the time anybody gets to the
- 31:32counter, if Madame is there, you will now point out to Madame
- 31:35that oh we have matching. Breezy is on the 1st floor.
- 31:38You now have to take them past ground floor where the discount
- 31:43was. You go into first floor where
- 31:44everything is full price. Some things have been marked up
- 31:51and of course you know, you females listening, you know,
- 31:53there is not only the breezy. We ended up buying because we're
- 31:56on the 1st floor and there's some other nice stuff there.
- 31:58So we ended up buying some nice things as well.
- 32:01So my wallet was not smiling at the end of the day, but my wife
- 32:05was very happy. So anyway, mission accomplished
- 32:09because she was happy even though my wallet was not
- 32:12smiling. So you can see that Marks and
- 32:15Spencer's next. All these other people, by the
- 32:19way, I hear that Marks and Spencer's are shut down.
- 32:20I don't know if that's the case because, you know, I don't keep
- 32:23in touch with fashion and all that.
- 32:24But if it's true, let me know. So that is the deliberate
- 32:29strategy that these businesses are using.
- 32:33We have inventory, we have Brazil, we haven't sold.
- 32:36We have winter clothes, we have this clothes, we have that that
- 32:39we haven't sold. So what we'll do is we'll
- 32:41declare sales and put everything on ground floor.
- 32:44People will rush once they are now inside, we can now show them
- 32:48other things that they will buy at correct price or mark top
- 32:51prices and then we will make the balance.
- 32:56In Nigeria, they have started doing it now to back to school
- 32:59retailers. That's for those of us who have
- 33:01children. The shop might declare 50% off
- 33:05for sandals now. One has happened to me as well.
- 33:09And so we're rushing there because of 50% for sandals.
- 33:13And then we will go and pack a bunch of sandals.
- 33:18But then my wife will notice that, oh, these school bags look
- 33:21nice. And then I'll say the school
- 33:23bags that we have at home, they're OK, there's no problem.
- 33:26Now what is it? They'll say, look, what's the
- 33:28children are starting the new year.
- 33:29How can they start a new year with the old school bag?
- 33:31But I'm like, there's no problem with the old bag.
- 33:35No, we have to get new school bags.
- 33:37And then of course, new school bag is how much full price from
- 33:41there you will see water bottle. From there you will see toys
- 33:45from there you will see this, you will see that.
- 33:47So Nigerian retailers, they have started catching up to this
- 33:50thing. Back to school retailers
- 33:52specifically, I've noticed. So I've decided that the next
- 33:55time they say 50% off on school sandals, I've decided I will go
- 33:59there myself. I'll just tell my wife, select
- 34:01the ones you want. I'll go there and buy it because
- 34:04if I go with her, I know to be a disaster, we will go there.
- 34:06The sandals will be half price, but then the bag will be full
- 34:09price, the water bottle will be full price, everything else will
- 34:13be full price and they will end up spending more than we have
- 34:17planned. So this is when discounting is
- 34:21good, you're using it as a deliberate strategy to move
- 34:25inventory. If this is not part of your
- 34:27strategy, discounting is bad and you're opening yourself up to
- 34:31all those other issues that we mentioned when we're talking
- 34:34about reducing your price. So now as a salesperson, what is
- 34:39the only option? The reason why I say as a
- 34:43salesperson is because for management, management can
- 34:45decide to do whatever they want. You can tell management this is
- 34:48a bad idea, but they can say I don't care, let's reduce
- 34:50quality. So it's not really in your hand.
- 34:54But let's say you're the owner of the business and you want to
- 34:59make this decision from a sales and business development
- 35:02perspective. What's your only option?
- 35:04The only option is to make yourself the distinguishing
- 35:07factor. People should buy the product or
- 35:10the service because it is you who is selling it.
- 35:14Hope you guys are paying attention.
- 35:16Make yourself the distinguishing factor because that's the only
- 35:19thing that will be constant whether the economy is good or
- 35:22the economy is bad. So you have to be the
- 35:26distinguishing factor. I mean, think about it.
- 35:31Take for instance, those of you listening to this podcast,
- 35:33there's some of you who listen to this.
- 35:35We've ended up doing business a couple of times.
- 35:37You trust me, I am now the distinguishing factor.
- 35:42You're not with me because of the price.
- 35:46So even if you come across another consultant who is
- 35:49cheaper, there's some of you who will still stick with me because
- 35:53I have become the distinguishing factor.
- 35:56It's the same for your businesses.
- 35:58You have to become the distinguishing factor.
- 36:02People have to buy from you because it is you, because you
- 36:05are that correct guy or you are that correct babe.
- 36:09So excuse me, You have to become their guy or their babe.
- 36:13You have to become a trusted resource.
- 36:16And that's the whole point of this podcast.
- 36:18Over 1000 episodes and I keep talking about these things.
- 36:20Have a sales process. Figure out a way to gain
- 36:23people's trust, become an advocate, anticipate people's
- 36:26problems, help solve customer problems, become a valuable
- 36:29asset to people so that when things are up or when things are
- 36:34down, it will still be you. Me personally, I'm going through
- 36:36it right now. Things are tight.
- 36:38Need to go and fix the engine seating on the car.
- 36:41So yes, there will be another, there will be another podcast
- 36:44episode where, you know, I'm, I'm at the mechanic shop.
- 36:46For those of you who like that episode, I want to be back there
- 36:48soon, you know, but me and this guy, we've had a relationship
- 36:53and I've seen that he's the only one that has solved my problem.
- 36:55Other mechanics, you go there, you want to fix my problem.
- 36:59Another complication issues. Now this mechanic is expensive
- 37:02because the guy went to school. And mechanics that went to
- 37:06school, they're very expensive, you know.
- 37:08But what can I say? He went to school, he knows his
- 37:10work, so he can tell you, he can diagnose.
- 37:15This is the problem. If we fix this, that's the end.
- 37:18And that's why I like working with him.
- 37:20It's just that the guy is expensive anyway, what do you
- 37:25expect? If you go and meet a mechanic
- 37:27who went to school, who actually went to university, who went to
- 37:29go and read everything, What do you expect?
- 37:31But anyway, at least with these kind of mechanics, the ones will
- 37:35go school one is 1. You won't go and fix this
- 37:39problem. And then tomorrow there now be
- 37:40another problem. So because he's my guy, because
- 37:46he's a useful resource, I decided that instead of me going
- 37:48somewhere and doing for cheap, let me just maintain.
- 37:52When I arrange the money, I'll call him.
- 37:53So I send him a message today, as in bro, I didn't forget to,
- 37:57I'll be with you soon. Just remind me again how much it
- 38:00is so that before I come, I'll transfer.
- 38:05That is what you should be aiming for.
- 38:07What this mechanic, the mechanic will go school.
- 38:09What this mechanic is doing. That is what I'm saying you
- 38:12should do for your business as well.
- 38:14What I'm trying to do with the podcast and with the way that I
- 38:17do business with my customers, that is what you should be doing
- 38:19as well. People should buy because it is
- 38:24you and because of how you do business.
- 38:32Apart from that, price sensitive people ignore them.
- 38:37I beg. They come and they go.
- 38:38I really don't think that was the hassle.
- 38:40Just ignore. So make yourself the
- 38:44distinguishing factor and then hold your course and wait
- 38:49because the market will rebound. This thing happens.
- 38:52It's up and down and up and down and up and down.
- 38:54So I told you guys about I get your bread saccharine and all of
- 38:58that. When I was still an embryo, that
- 39:00was a down. And then guess what?
- 39:03The economy picked up. When the passenger came in, the
- 39:05economy was up. So just one of those things up,
- 39:08down, up, down, up, down, up, down.
- 39:09It's a cycle. That's how it happens.
- 39:11So right now, hyperinflation, economy down, but guess what?
- 39:16It's going to pick up. I don't know when, I don't know
- 39:19how, but it will. So wait for the rebound.
- 39:23That's just how economies are. Now, The thing is, if we end up
- 39:28like how Zimbabwe was in the 90s, OK, then in that case, let
- 39:31all of us Jack back. It means that the country is
- 39:33going to crap. But outside of those kinds of
- 39:37scenarios of hyperinflation where like in Zimbabwe do our
- 39:40buying, you know, a loaf of bread for $1000, Excuse me, was
- 39:45it, I think was it dollars or so Zimbabwean dollars or something?
- 39:49But there's one time when do buying bread for like $1000 or
- 39:52something. So outside of those kinds of
- 39:55scenarios, the economy is going to improve.
- 39:57And if you keep on doing good business, you keep on doing good
- 40:00sales practice and people are buying because it's you, you
- 40:03will end up capturing market share.
- 40:05Like think of this, my mechanic friend, for instance, while we
- 40:08go school, he's maintaining his business, He's not dropping the
- 40:13prices. In fact, he increases prices
- 40:17because let's be honest, you know, you must survive as the
- 40:19economy's hard for everybody's hard for him as well.
- 40:22So he increased his prices and he's staying there.
- 40:26When the economy rebounds, our things are good.
- 40:30People will remember that. This is the guy who knows what's
- 40:33up. So there are lots of people who
- 40:35left because times are tough. They will come back when the
- 40:38economy rebounds, you'll find that you would have captured
- 40:42market share. So that's the scope.
- 40:46Make yourself the distinguishing factor, stay your course, keep
- 40:49your prices there as they are. In fact, some people will say,
- 40:53and I agree with them, raise your prices even if it is small.
- 41:00I think that's the best thing to do, quite honestly.
- 41:04So before we leave, let's do one more case study.
- 41:07Since we've known mechanic, let's do one more case study.
- 41:10The last person that I chatted with was someone who has a
- 41:13business for writing CVS and he targets CV.
- 41:17You know as aspire curriculum Vt.
- 41:19You know, the paper that you need when you're going to get a
- 41:20job and he's targeting NYSE people.
- 41:24So now if you're in this kind of business, if you lower your
- 41:28price and you discount, you will attract troublesome customers
- 41:31that can never be satisfied. And writing CV is hard work.
- 41:36You don't want to put in all that hard work.
- 41:38And then somebody start complaining me, me, me, me, me,
- 41:40me, me, me, me, me. I mean, that's not that's,
- 41:42that's, that's a hard life. So if you're in that kind of
- 41:46business, please do not lower your price, do not discount,
- 41:49maintain your price or better yet, raise your price.
- 41:52In fact, the young man who reached out to me, after putting
- 41:54in all the work, he decided he was going to raise his price.
- 41:57And I was very happy, at least I didn't have to have that
- 42:01conversation with him. He decided on his own that he
- 42:03has to raise the price and was very happy.
- 42:05So raise your price because you have to survive the way the
- 42:08times are hard for everybody, that's the way the time is hard
- 42:10for you as well. So raise your price and then
- 42:15prospect hard into other segments that are not as price
- 42:19sensitive. So if NYSE people are too price
- 42:22sensitive, then expand. Look for all that customers who
- 42:25need CV writing services then to make yourself the distinguishing
- 42:31factor, you try and anticipate people's problems.
- 42:33You try and provide value in his own case.
- 42:36In fact, I was like this guy will go far.
- 42:39You really, really go far. Because I didn't have to tell
- 42:41him this, He was able to figure out that people who write their
- 42:45CVS normally, for some reason their LinkedIn is not optimized.
- 42:50So he has started advising some people that, look, it's not just
- 42:52about CV, you got to optimize your LinkedIn because people who
- 42:55are doing job recruitment these days will not only look at your
- 42:58CV, they'll go and check your social media and it's somehow if
- 43:01you're LinkedIn especially is not up to par.
- 43:06So he has started offering that as an extra service.
- 43:09He's anticipating problems that people are going to have and
- 43:13he's providing value. I wrote, I write your CV, I
- 43:17optimize your social media handles, optimize your LinkedIn.
- 43:22Therefore, some other people, he's now thinking of doing some
- 43:24interview coaching. When you're going for interview,
- 43:26this is how you prepare. These are the questions that
- 43:28they may ask, you know, blah, blah, blah.
- 43:30You can figure out some of these things out, especially now,
- 43:32which are GPT. You can come with a list of
- 43:34questions and role play with the person.
- 43:36So interview coaching that you know that is 1.
- 43:40So instead of somebody like in this kind of business dropping
- 43:44your prices and discounting and getting customers that will
- 43:47never be satisfied, stay the course or raise your prices,
- 43:51offer other valuable services like optimizing people's
- 43:55LinkedIn handles and maybe doing interview coaching.
- 43:58You're doing good business. People are remaining with you.
- 44:01They will refer you when the economy improves.
- 44:08You will be set apart from other people who are competition in
- 44:14your space because you've been doing business differently and
- 44:18you will not be getting referrals from quality
- 44:21customers, the people who stuck with you while things are OK.
- 44:25It's like this. My mechanic now, honestly
- 44:27speaking, I can't refer him to anybody else because you know,
- 44:30he's on the high side. Whenever things improve and the
- 44:33money is flowing and or whatnot. If any of my guys asked me,
- 44:35look, do you know any mechanic who one is one that we did touch
- 44:39my car one time will solve the problem.
- 44:40Of course, confidently I'll be able to here.
- 44:43You can try, you can try movie, but you know, movies a bit
- 44:46expensive, but you know try him. He's my guy.
- 44:48All right, so it's almost an hour.
- 44:53So that's it. And that is all on the question.
- 44:56Remember, if you'd love to connect with me then call SMS or
- 44:59WhatsApp me on 08064662140. Thank you for your time and
- 45:05attention. I'll catch you next time.
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