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- 0:09Speaker 1: Doctor John DeMartini. Welcome to the podcast.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Firstly, before we get into the podcast, is it true
- 0:20Speaker 1: that you live on a ship.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I do live on a ship. I'm right now in Simpedro,
- 0:29Speaker 2: which is part of Los Angeles. We just came into
- 0:32Speaker 2: the port here and I've been here for a couple
- 0:33Speaker 2: of days. We're sailing out tonight. And yes, I've been
- 0:37Speaker 2: living in the ship since two thousand. Well I bought
- 0:40Speaker 2: in two thousand and one and I've been, you know,
- 0:45Speaker 2: living on a ship for twenty five years almost. Wow.
- 0:48Speaker 1: So this is one of these big, massive cruise ships
- 0:50Speaker 1: that just continues sailing around the world, and you've got
- 0:54Speaker 1: a cabin, part slice apartment on it.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Is that correct? Well, it's a residential ship. It's not
- 0:59Speaker 2: a cruise ship, okay, but it goes around the world.
- 1:03Speaker 2: There's one hundred of us that own it. And so
- 1:07Speaker 2: we decide where we go, and we really where we go,
- 1:12Speaker 2: and we decide where are the owners. So we we
- 1:14Speaker 2: we we we're on the show here.
- 1:17Speaker 3: That's pretty cold, and so what's the.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Thing takes care of everything and we've got we voted
- 1:22Speaker 2: where we go in the teneraries and we have a
- 1:25Speaker 2: town hall for everybody to make big decisions by. But
- 1:28Speaker 2: it's it's the best address I've been able to find
- 1:32Speaker 2: and it allows me to see the world. And so
- 1:35Speaker 2: wherever there's water we go.
- 1:37Speaker 3: That is really it's really quite cool. Does it Does
- 1:40Speaker 3: it get boring?
- 1:42Speaker 2: No?
- 1:43Speaker 3: I know me because because you're constantly.
- 1:47Speaker 4: What a great year we had today? What some people
- 1:49Speaker 4: get to do in a year, we get to do
- 1:50Speaker 4: data that is pretty cool. Who's the who's the longest
- 1:56Speaker 4: running resident? You're talking to him, it's about to say,
- 2:01Speaker 4: you've got to be up there, right and anybody.
- 2:05Speaker 1: So this is not a podcast about living ownership, but
- 2:07Speaker 1: I find this quite interesting. Does anybody kind of use
- 2:11Speaker 1: the their home on there as a kind of a
- 2:15Speaker 1: time share and have friends come in and stay for
- 2:17Speaker 1: periods of time?
- 2:20Speaker 2: It's not a time share, but people do have guests
- 2:24Speaker 2: over and friends over, and I'm having I had two
- 2:30Speaker 2: friends last night over, friends and on board that I
- 2:34Speaker 2: hadn't seen well. I lived in a tent with fifty
- 2:37Speaker 2: five years ago on the North Shore where we were served,
- 2:40Speaker 2: and so you know, they came by there. Happened to
- 2:43Speaker 2: be in Los Angeles. They came by and so I
- 2:45Speaker 2: had them over for dinner and have chat catch up.
- 2:49Speaker 2: But we have guests that come on, and we have
- 2:51Speaker 2: friends and family that come on, and yeah, but it's
- 2:55Speaker 2: just a private ship, private ownership. It's fantastic. Not a
- 3:00Speaker 2: crowded ship where there's thousands you can get people. We
- 3:04Speaker 2: have three hundred and nine staff, so we got a
- 3:08Speaker 2: very high ratio of staff and we just we just
- 3:12Speaker 2: came through from We went from Antarctica's to Ushuai, to
- 3:17Speaker 2: the Chilean Fjords, Bella Paracia, out to Robinson Crusoe Island,
- 3:25Speaker 2: out to the Easter Island, over to Barbora and eventually
- 3:28Speaker 2: over to the French Polynesia and to Tahiti and then
- 3:32Speaker 2: over to more French Polynesia and then over to Hawaii.
- 3:35Speaker 2: And then we came into en Sonata and in San
- 3:37Speaker 2: Diego and now La. Now we leave tonight for another
- 3:41Speaker 2: little place and then we go to San Francisco on Friday.
- 3:45Speaker 2: So we spend anywhere from one to five days in
- 3:48Speaker 2: various locations. All weird to see.
- 3:51Speaker 3: That is bloody fantastic. Like even that trip that you
- 3:54Speaker 3: just rattled off is amazing. And that's one little part.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Last question, I promise.
- 4:00Speaker 1: On the ship what's the shittiest weather you've ever had
- 4:05Speaker 1: to endure on the ship?
- 4:08Speaker 2: Probably the roughest weather is a semi blizzard in Antarctica
- 4:16Speaker 2: quite a few years back. We had about ninety mile
- 4:19Speaker 2: an hour winds that were sideways and it was pretty
- 4:22Speaker 2: cold out and it didn't really affect anybody on the
- 4:26Speaker 2: ship really, but people had to tie a few chairs
- 4:30Speaker 2: and tables at the balconies and things. But it was
- 4:34Speaker 2: just sideward blizzard and it was amazing to see, thank
- 4:38Speaker 2: god I was inside, but amazing to see and here.
- 4:43Speaker 2: So that was pretty good. And we caught a little
- 4:45Speaker 2: bit of a cyclone out in the Indian Ocean. We
- 4:49Speaker 2: caught a little bit of a cyclone and we had
- 4:51Speaker 2: to you know, tighten it shipped down and find import
- 4:54Speaker 2: and go in. It's kind of unexpected, but there's none
- 4:59Speaker 2: of that. No, we don't. We try to go wherever
- 5:01Speaker 2: the weather is really nice.
- 5:03Speaker 1: That that's a brilliant strategy. I like it so John,
- 5:07Speaker 1: That this has been a rather long intro. But to
- 5:10Speaker 1: introduce you, you're a chiropractice by Tree, but you're way
- 5:14Speaker 1: more than that, right, You're a human behavior specialist. You're
- 5:17Speaker 1: an author of at least four books that I know
- 5:20Speaker 1: of anyway, and you're an integrative health practitioner and you've
- 5:25Speaker 1: presented in over one hundred countries, which is pretty bloody awesome.
- 5:29Speaker 1: And I'm going to start with the thing that I
- 5:33Speaker 1: probably took away the most from when I saw you,
- 5:36Speaker 1: it would have been ten or fifteen years ago, And
- 5:39Speaker 1: it's talking about values, because right out of the gate.
- 5:44Speaker 3: I wanted to bring that up. And why are values important?
- 5:49Speaker 3: Getting clear on your values? Why is that important for people?
- 5:53Speaker 3: And then we'll talk.
- 5:55Speaker 1: About how they go about getting clear about their values.
- 6:00Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy eight, I asked myself a question, why
- 6:05Speaker 2: do some people walk their talk and some people in
- 6:07Speaker 2: their life? Why does some people do what they say
- 6:10Speaker 2: and others don't. Why does some people flourish others flounder?
- 6:15Speaker 2: And that led me to exploring what drives human beings,
- 6:19Speaker 2: both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation, And I realized that every
- 6:25Speaker 2: human being has a set of priorities, a set of
- 6:28Speaker 2: values that they run their life by. And this set
- 6:31Speaker 2: of values is fingerprint specific, it's literally unique to them.
- 6:37Speaker 2: They arrive from the voids all the misperceptions and judgments
- 6:42Speaker 2: that they've accumulated in their journey, and multigenerational epigenetics, gestational
- 6:49Speaker 2: like pigenetics and postpartment epigenetics. All the judgments they've accumulated
- 6:55Speaker 2: that they've been too proud or too humble to admit
- 6:57Speaker 2: that they see in others inside themselves drive the values,
- 7:01Speaker 2: and those values impact the way you perceive, to side
- 7:05Speaker 2: and act. So your perception is filtered through your values,
- 7:10Speaker 2: through the pulvinar nuclear of the Thalmas. Your decisions are
- 7:13Speaker 2: bates on those values, what supports and advantages over disadvantage
- 7:17Speaker 2: to the mid Land hippo campus and governed by the
- 7:21Speaker 2: executive center of the media prefunal cortex. And then your actions,
- 7:25Speaker 2: the spontaneous actions or whatever's highest on your value, and
- 7:28Speaker 2: you need external motivation to do things low on your values.
- 7:31Speaker 2: So your whole character, your behavior, your habits are all
- 7:35Speaker 2: filtered through those values. So the higharch of your values
- 7:39Speaker 2: dictates you're really your destiny. And as the values are evolving,
- 7:42Speaker 2: so your destiny is changing. And the summation of your
- 7:45Speaker 2: destinies is your life's journey. And there's different trajectories that
- 7:50Speaker 2: you take at for periods, and then there may be
- 7:52Speaker 2: a modification or there may be one consistent trajectory, but
- 7:56Speaker 2: the higharchy of one's values dictates their destiny and how
- 8:01Speaker 2: they perceived a side. And that so I don't really
- 8:03Speaker 2: know anything in human behavior that is not impacted by values.
- 8:07Speaker 2: That's why I've spent so much time emphasizing that on
- 8:11Speaker 2: all the books, Almost every book that I've written, it's
- 8:13Speaker 2: actually forty six paperbacks, they have all had something on
- 8:17Speaker 2: values in there, and they've all they've almost there. You
- 8:22Speaker 2: won't find a book that's not mentioning values. And I
- 8:24Speaker 2: started writing books at age twenty three, So right at
- 8:27Speaker 2: that point, I started writing a lot of books.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Wow, you started writing books at twenty three.
- 8:31Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of people, traditionally, I'm
- 8:36Speaker 1: not talking today, but traditionally a lot of people would
- 8:40Speaker 1: have kind of had their values handed to them if
- 8:43Speaker 1: they were religious. And you know, I think religion, any religion,
- 8:48Speaker 1: whatever religion it is, tends to have these sets of
- 8:51Speaker 1: group values that are imparted to people through whatever sermon
- 8:55Speaker 1: or or beliefs of these sorts of things. And there's
- 8:58Speaker 1: been obviously a big break down in religion. And I'm
- 9:02Speaker 1: not advocating for religion. I'm personally a recovering Catholic, but
- 9:07Speaker 1: absince that how do people you know if they have
- 9:11Speaker 1: that void of values or a bit of an existential crisis.
- 9:16Speaker 1: What would you say is the first step or is
- 9:19Speaker 1: there a clearly defined process that you take people through
- 9:23Speaker 1: for getting clear on what's important to them.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Yes, I'm glad you brought that up. That's a very
- 9:30Speaker 2: important question. Again. At twenty three, in the pursuit of
- 9:36Speaker 2: identifying what values were, there was only twelve textbooks at
- 9:41Speaker 2: the time that I was able to find in English
- 9:44Speaker 2: on the study of axiology, which is a study of
- 9:46Speaker 2: value and worth. Most of them were influenced as how
- 9:53Speaker 2: we should be. Most of the books were written about
- 9:56Speaker 2: how humans should be in society. And there was David Hume,
- 10:01Speaker 2: who is a Scottish philosopher. Now he talked to me,
- 10:05Speaker 2: is verse ought how you actually are first, how you're
- 10:10Speaker 2: supposed to be, how you ought to be? And I
- 10:14Speaker 2: when I was looking at Schwartz and heartlands and modalities
- 10:19Speaker 2: identifying values at the time, I did not feel satisfied
- 10:25Speaker 2: that they were really doing an assessment of values. They
- 10:27Speaker 2: were doing assessment of what people thought they ought to be.
- 10:32Speaker 2: And I, because of that, I decided to create my
- 10:34Speaker 2: own set of value determinants back when I was twenty three,
- 10:39Speaker 2: and I've tweaked them ever so slightly since, but I
- 10:43Speaker 2: found them very valuable and now millions of people have
- 10:45Speaker 2: used them. And so I'll go through those value determinants
- 10:51Speaker 2: because I'm not interested in what you ought to be.
- 10:53Speaker 2: I'm interested in what you are. Because even though we
- 10:58Speaker 2: have a normative ethics, a tradition, and conventional maraise that
- 11:03Speaker 2: were to live by according to society, yeah, in order
- 11:08Speaker 2: to do it, there's going to be a repression of
- 11:10Speaker 2: your own true set of values, and that repression gets
- 11:15Speaker 2: expressed on You can repress and repress and repress, and
- 11:18Speaker 2: then it explodes into expression. And whatever we repress collectively
- 11:23Speaker 2: in society, a selective group of people will express and
- 11:26Speaker 2: become the villains, and not in order for us to
- 11:29Speaker 2: be the heroes of conformity. So I looked at what
- 11:35Speaker 2: were the value determinants that were most accurate, the most objective,
- 11:40Speaker 2: and not about what you ought to be, but what
- 11:41Speaker 2: your life demonstrates. So I'll go through those. The first
- 11:45Speaker 2: one is space. You have what they call a study
- 11:50Speaker 2: of space called prox semics, and whatever is highest on
- 11:54Speaker 2: your value goes into the most intimate space. You have
- 11:58Speaker 2: what is called intimate space, which about eighteen inches around you,
- 12:02Speaker 2: and only very special people get in there. The average
- 12:05Speaker 2: person walking down the street is not allowed in that
- 12:07Speaker 2: space eighteen inches from you.
- 12:09Speaker 1: You say, so, when you say eighteen inches, do you
- 12:13Speaker 1: mean do you mean physically or do you.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Mean eighteen inches within your body? You don't let everybody in,
- 12:21Speaker 2: but you're changing.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Is this linked to the amygdala? John?
- 12:25Speaker 1: And you know when you get too to someone you're activating,
- 12:29Speaker 1: the will see you.
- 12:30Speaker 2: As prey or predator. So if it sees you as prey,
- 12:34Speaker 2: it's going to one to get close to you. If
- 12:35Speaker 2: it's EESI as predator, it's going to want to get
- 12:37Speaker 2: away from you. So the most intimate space means that
- 12:41Speaker 2: you're high on their values. Then you have individual space,
- 12:46Speaker 2: which is about eighteen inches to about four feet. Then
- 12:49Speaker 2: you have what is called social space, which is about
- 12:52Speaker 2: eighteen about four feet to twelve feet, and then anything
- 12:56Speaker 2: over twelve feet is public space. So friends and loved
- 13:01Speaker 2: ones you let in your intimate space, then friends, then
- 13:04Speaker 2: social meetings. People you meet can go from four to
- 13:08Speaker 2: twelve feet, but people that you don't like you keep
- 13:11Speaker 2: outside the twelve footmark, you avoid them. So if I
- 13:15Speaker 2: look at what you fill your space with, and what
- 13:18Speaker 2: items or what individuals you fill your space with, and
- 13:22Speaker 2: particularly the intimate space, that tells you what you value most. Now,
- 13:27Speaker 2: in my case, I use my example. I am spending
- 13:31Speaker 2: most of my day in front of a computer, and
- 13:35Speaker 2: I'm right now eighteen inches away from the camera. Even
- 13:39Speaker 2: though the camera's right here, I'm kind of looking at
- 13:40Speaker 2: you to make sure I'm looking at you, yeah, but
- 13:43Speaker 2: I'm eighteen inches away. I'm also engaged in motor activity
- 13:47Speaker 2: because I'm typing on it, and sensory responses because I'm
- 13:50Speaker 2: looking at screens. So I'm engaged in some item this
- 13:55Speaker 2: case of computer that's within eighteen inches of me. Anything
- 13:59Speaker 2: that's really important to me gets in there, but anything
- 14:03Speaker 2: that's not doesn't get in there. Now, there's also some
- 14:05Speaker 2: accessories to this computer, like a microphone and lights and thing,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and that's an extension the computer. But really the computer
- 14:12Speaker 2: is a very valuable item. But if I look at
- 14:15Speaker 2: what the item is, it doesn't tell me what's really important.
- 14:20Speaker 2: But it's a vehicle. So I ask, what exactly is
- 14:23Speaker 2: that item used for? What is the most common use
- 14:26Speaker 2: of this, and in my case unquestionably, it's teaching. I
- 14:30Speaker 2: filmed for a new movie today in two and a
- 14:33Speaker 2: half hours. This morning on it, I did a podcast
- 14:36Speaker 2: I'm doing now another podcast. I have another one later
- 14:39Speaker 2: this evening. I spend most of my day either teaching
- 14:44Speaker 2: or second most researching and writing. So if I look
- 14:48Speaker 2: at what that item is that I keep most close
- 14:50Speaker 2: to me, it gives me an indication of what is
- 14:52Speaker 2: important to me. And my highest value is teaching. I'm
- 14:55Speaker 2: doing that every single day of my life, and researching
- 14:58Speaker 2: and writing. The second item is my cell phone. I'm
- 15:04Speaker 2: looking this up, and I don't many people use a
- 15:06Speaker 2: cell phone to talk to people. I don't talk to
- 15:08Speaker 2: people that much. I'm researching stuff while I'm waiting for food,
- 15:13Speaker 2: or I'm going somewhere. I'm researching, So my phone is
- 15:17Speaker 2: the second most item that it's always going with me,
- 15:19Speaker 2: keeps right next to me. So if I look at
- 15:22Speaker 2: the two items most significantly, it's my computer and my phone.
- 15:27Speaker 2: The third item is books. Right now, there's three encyclopedia
- 15:31Speaker 2: volumes and another volume sitting underneath my computer, and I
- 15:35Speaker 2: lift my computer, pull out the volume, read ten pages,
- 15:37Speaker 2: put it back throughout the day because I love to
- 15:41Speaker 2: feed my mind ideas and great ideas from great people.
- 15:47Speaker 2: So if I look at what my space reveals, teaching,
- 15:51Speaker 2: researching is extremely important to me. Now because I've traveled
- 15:57Speaker 2: a lot. I've traveled twenty one million miles on flights
- 15:59Speaker 2: and over a million miles sailing. Traveling is also extremely important.
- 16:04Speaker 2: So I'm literally within my space here, I'm having a
- 16:08Speaker 2: view of my travels at all times. So if I
- 16:11Speaker 2: look carefully at what I'm my life is demonstrating just
- 16:14Speaker 2: in space, it tells me what's valuable to me, because
- 16:18Speaker 2: you make the time to fill your space with things
- 16:20Speaker 2: that are valuable to So that's number one, and I
- 16:23Speaker 2: act the top three answers, so I get the ABC's
- 16:27Speaker 2: not the xyzs a priority. What is the three items
- 16:31Speaker 2: you fill your intimate space with most consistently. You imagine
- 16:36Speaker 2: a drone looking over you and watching you twenty four
- 16:39Speaker 2: hours a day for a three month period. What would
- 16:41Speaker 2: be in your intimate space most consistently. That way, you're
- 16:45Speaker 2: not subjectively wishing, writing down what you wish you would
- 16:49Speaker 2: be or what you think it ought to be, but
- 16:50Speaker 2: what is actually the fact? Objectively in your life. I'm
- 16:54Speaker 2: interested in what the fact is, not the hope, the fantasy.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and before we taking any further, you said that's
- 17:01Speaker 1: the first thing. What does it say about society?
- 17:06Speaker 2: Now?
- 17:06Speaker 1: Were you mentioned that stuff within eighteen inchries? You mentioned
- 17:09Speaker 1: your computer, you mentioned your phone and what you do
- 17:13Speaker 1: on your phone? What does it say about the direction
- 17:16Speaker 1: that our society is taken that for most people their phone,
- 17:21Speaker 1: it would be absolutely one of those things. But the
- 17:25Speaker 1: amount of time that they're spending on their phone, they're
- 17:28Speaker 1: not teaching and researching like you would, but they're actually
- 17:33Speaker 1: being entertained or interacting on social media, like watching others
- 17:39Speaker 1: being I call them consumers of life rather than active participants.
- 17:45Speaker 1: What does that actually say about where we're going as
- 17:48Speaker 1: a society And how much of an impact do you
- 17:52Speaker 1: think that that has on on were, on individuals health
- 17:58Speaker 1: and well being?
- 18:00Speaker 3: On purposing?
- 18:03Speaker 2: The technology is neutral. Technology is neither good nor evil,
- 18:08Speaker 2: either advantage. Addition, it's simply a technology. The human being
- 18:14Speaker 2: in its use of that technology, reveals what's priority to them.
- 18:20Speaker 2: So if I look very carefully at somebody that's spending
- 18:23Speaker 2: hours a day on social media, for instance, I would
- 18:26Speaker 2: immediately ask what is the most common denominator that you're
- 18:29Speaker 2: looking at, what's grabbing your eye. That's still value driven.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Because if I look on social media on Instagram, for instance,
- 18:38Speaker 2: i may go through twenty different things and then I'll
- 18:42Speaker 2: see a Warren Buffett quote or a little interview by him,
- 18:46Speaker 2: or I'll see something by Jeff Bezos and I'll see
- 18:50Speaker 2: that or something on human behavior, and I'll notice that
- 18:54Speaker 2: and I'll not notice the rest, and I can be
- 18:57Speaker 2: on there for twenty minutes maybe and go through an
- 19:00Speaker 2: extract notes and ideas from people and the quotes and
- 19:03Speaker 2: watch videos and things. So the first thing I do
- 19:06Speaker 2: when you're doing to social media is what is the
- 19:07Speaker 2: common thread and what grabs your attention?
- 19:11Speaker 1: Because they're still want to state and what is the
- 19:14Speaker 1: algorithm serving you? Up right, Because I'm not on social media.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Much, but the stuff I keep going based on what
- 19:20Speaker 2: you keep looking at. But that's still value driven. Now, yeah, yeah,
- 19:23Speaker 2: I agree you.
- 19:24Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
- 19:25Speaker 2: They are experts out there that are doing everything they
- 19:28Speaker 2: can to grab your attention. And sometimes if you're not
- 19:31Speaker 2: filling your day with high priority actions that inspire you
- 19:34Speaker 2: and using the social media purposely, then you'll be more
- 19:39Speaker 2: apt to have instincts and impulses distract you on social media.
- 19:44Speaker 2: But still, even in those distractions, there's still something that's
- 19:47Speaker 2: grabbing your attention, and finding that out is crucial. For instance,
- 19:52Speaker 2: I had a woman that contacted me and she said,
- 19:55Speaker 2: I've got a twenty three year old son. You need
- 19:58Speaker 2: to talk to him, You need to do concert with him.
- 20:00Speaker 2: He just sits in front of the TV all day
- 20:03Speaker 2: long watching TV. He doesn't work, he doesn't do this
- 20:07Speaker 2: something else. And I explained to her, I said, as
- 20:09Speaker 2: long as you keep rescuing him and paying for everything,
- 20:12Speaker 2: he's got no drive, and let's go find out what
- 20:17Speaker 2: he's looking at. So I met with a boy, the
- 20:20Speaker 2: twenty free year old, which is a young man. I
- 20:23Speaker 2: guess when you're seventy two, that's still a boy. But
- 20:26Speaker 2: I asked him what is the most common thing you
- 20:29Speaker 2: look at? And it was CSI and it was crime solving.
- 20:34Speaker 2: And I asked him, I said, so that is the
- 20:36Speaker 2: most common thing you do? He says yes. I said,
- 20:39Speaker 2: is that meaningful to you? He says absolutely. I'm always
- 20:42Speaker 2: trying to anticipate and figure out in advance what the
- 20:44Speaker 2: crime solution is going to be. And what it's going
- 20:47Speaker 2: to lead to. I said, is that something that you
- 20:50Speaker 2: would love to do in life? And he goes, That's
- 20:52Speaker 2: what I really want to do in life, but I'm
- 20:53Speaker 2: having to go to school. And he just gets by
- 20:56Speaker 2: and gets seized just to get by to make sure
- 20:58Speaker 2: he doesn't get booted out of school and doesn't lose
- 21:01Speaker 2: the opportunity to do it. But he's watching the CSI.
- 21:04Speaker 2: I said, have you ever looked online to see what
- 21:06Speaker 2: is the curriculum in order to be a forensic specialist
- 21:09Speaker 2: solving crimes? He said, I said, let's go look online.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Let's see what we can find out. What kind of education.
- 21:15Speaker 2: There's some through the police department, there's some through universities.
- 21:18Speaker 2: They're specialist. Anyway, we went down the path and identified
- 21:22Speaker 2: two or three different alternative ways of getting the education
- 21:26Speaker 2: he wanted there and then went to his mom and
- 21:29Speaker 2: she says, well, did you talk some sent into him?
- 21:32Speaker 2: I said, well, sort of. We identified what he really
- 21:36Speaker 2: really wants to do, and he would like to go
- 21:38Speaker 2: to education, not on generics but on very specifics about
- 21:43Speaker 2: what he wants to do. And his mom said, what
- 21:45Speaker 2: do you want to do? And he says, I want
- 21:47Speaker 2: to be involved in solving crimes. He says that while
- 21:49Speaker 2: you're on that TV watching those darn TV shows all day,
- 21:52Speaker 2: want says, mom, that's my dream, and he literally got
- 21:56Speaker 2: teary eyed, and she got it in that moment. That's
- 22:00Speaker 2: what he was called to do, that's what his love is.
- 22:04Speaker 2: So she thought he was wasting time. So people with
- 22:07Speaker 2: a different set of values project their values onto us
- 22:11Speaker 2: and then expect us to live in their values and
- 22:13Speaker 2: think we're wasting time if it's not important to them.
- 22:16Speaker 2: But the truth was it was important to him and
- 22:19Speaker 2: he went on to pursue that, and so he was
- 22:21Speaker 2: in love with what he wanted to do. So social
- 22:24Speaker 2: media can be productive or unproductive if you're using it
- 22:29Speaker 2: with priority or not. And even if it's not, there's
- 22:33Speaker 2: still a thread in there that we can use to
- 22:35Speaker 2: extract what's important because there's something that grabs your attention,
- 22:39Speaker 2: and not everything grabs your attention. You can't get my
- 22:42Speaker 2: attention on cars or cooking or recipes, but you can
- 22:46Speaker 2: get my attention on anything to do with human behavior
- 22:48Speaker 2: on the social media. But then I'm using it because
- 22:52Speaker 2: I want information it might be useful to help people.
- 22:56Speaker 2: So the first thing is your space. The second thing
- 23:01Speaker 2: is time. You may time, you find time, and you
- 23:05Speaker 2: spend time on things that are really valuable to you.
- 23:08Speaker 2: And if somebody asks you to do something and it's
- 23:10Speaker 2: not important to you, so I don't have the time
- 23:13Speaker 2: to do that. I've got this schedule. It's busy, but
- 23:15Speaker 2: if it's something really valuable, you'll reroute your schedule to
- 23:18Speaker 2: make it happen. Yeah, So your time tells you also
- 23:24Speaker 2: what you value. I spend sometimes fourteen hours a day
- 23:29Speaker 2: doing presentations, and if i'm between that, I'm researching. So
- 23:33Speaker 2: if I look carefully, I'm teaching, you know. I mean
- 23:36Speaker 2: I've done one hundred and thirty nine presentations so far
- 23:40Speaker 2: this year, and I'm on track for about three hundred
- 23:42Speaker 2: and fifteen, and so that's you know, I do three
- 23:46Speaker 2: hundred presentations a year for since last fifty four years almost,
- 23:51Speaker 2: So I think Jehovah. Yeah. So if I look at
- 23:54Speaker 2: what I'd spend my time doing, that's my greatest love,
- 23:58Speaker 2: sharing information that makes a differ in people's lives. So
- 24:03Speaker 2: you look at what you fill your space with, and
- 24:05Speaker 2: you look at what you feel your time with and
- 24:07Speaker 2: the three items that stand out most, and you got
- 24:10Speaker 2: to be honest. You imagine a drone looking over you
- 24:12Speaker 2: and filming you for twenty four hours a day. What
- 24:14Speaker 2: did you spend most of your time? Second most and
- 24:16Speaker 2: third most on your time? If you're sleeping four to
- 24:19Speaker 2: seven hours, what's the daylight doing or night time whatever
- 24:24Speaker 2: you're awake? What does your day consist of? Time wise?
- 24:27Speaker 2: And in my case, teach, research, right, and travel. That's
- 24:31Speaker 2: what's true. I can make up stuff. And by the way,
- 24:35Speaker 2: you're not wrong or right for your values. And whenever
- 24:39Speaker 2: you live according to them, you maximize your wellness quotient.
- 24:43Speaker 2: And whenever you try to inject the values of outer
- 24:46Speaker 2: authorities that you subordinate to, you create an illness quotient.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Your illness clod can go that your wellness quotient goes down.
- 24:53Speaker 1: I do, I do want to come back to that,
- 24:56Speaker 1: and particularly what you talked about in terms of value
- 25:00Speaker 1: and other people and relationships. But let's just park that
- 25:03Speaker 1: for a second, because I want to come back to
- 25:06Speaker 1: the space and time thing. And I as you're talking,
- 25:10Speaker 1: I'm thinking about what my space is filled with where
- 25:13Speaker 1: I spend my time, and it's very similar to you.
- 25:15Speaker 3: It's around teaching, researching.
- 25:19Speaker 1: And but there will be other people whose space and
- 25:23Speaker 1: time is filled with social media stuff. And for me,
- 25:30Speaker 1: as you were talking, I can see how there can
- 25:33Speaker 1: be that productive use of space and time, but there's
- 25:38Speaker 1: also kind of dysfunctional. There's people who are just you know,
- 25:44Speaker 1: sitting watching shit TV or watching mindless stuff on social media, and.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Well anytime, anytime, they're not anytime, they're not aware of
- 25:56Speaker 2: which priority to them, and they're not cognitively intentively intentionally
- 26:02Speaker 2: focusing on it. The blood glucoson auction goes from the
- 26:06Speaker 2: media prefrontal cortex into the amigla, and the amigula will
- 26:10Speaker 2: then be impulsive and instinctual. It will seek and avoid
- 26:13Speaker 2: things according to those values, but it's still value driven.
- 26:17Speaker 2: But what happens, it's only mindless when we haven't found
- 26:20Speaker 2: the mindfulness that tidden within it.
- 26:23Speaker 1: This is kind of what I'm getting at right because
- 26:26Speaker 1: we all know that dopamine is a very very strong
- 26:30Speaker 1: driver of behavior.
- 26:31Speaker 3: I don't need to tell you that.
- 26:33Speaker 1: And what I'm talking about here is it getting hijacked
- 26:38Speaker 1: and therefore sucking up our attention and filling our space
- 26:43Speaker 1: and time with stuff that's really not intentional, that we're
- 26:47Speaker 1: not doing deliberately, that we've just sucked in because maybe
- 26:50Speaker 1: there is a little bit of a vortex, or maybe
- 26:53Speaker 1: because people are just you know, they're tired, they're stressed,
- 26:57Speaker 1: and they just want to relax and they turn the
- 27:00Speaker 1: TV on or switch on to social media, and then
- 27:02Speaker 1: they get sucked into this thing that isn't really fulfilling
- 27:07Speaker 1: or building them up.
- 27:08Speaker 2: So, well, what's the difference what's happening is And I'll
- 27:12Speaker 2: just make a statement and hope this sinks into everybody
- 27:15Speaker 2: that's listening. If you don't fill your day with high
- 27:19Speaker 2: priority actions that are deeply meaningful and inspiring, your day
- 27:23Speaker 2: is designed to fill up with low priority distractions that
- 27:28Speaker 2: don't and the person that frustrate you self depreciate you,
- 27:34Speaker 2: distract you until you realize you're not honoring what is
- 27:39Speaker 2: valuable to you consciously. And the key is to stop
- 27:44Speaker 2: do the value determination process, which is free on my
- 27:47Speaker 2: website for anybody, and to actually get clear about what
- 27:51Speaker 2: is important and to start prioritizing your life. If you're
- 27:54Speaker 2: not prioritizing how you feel your time, you're not prioritizing
- 27:58Speaker 2: what you're filling your space with ansciously, not prioritizing what
- 28:02Speaker 2: you're spending your money on who you're associating with, what
- 28:04Speaker 2: you're feeding your mind, what you're reading, what you're eating.
- 28:07Speaker 2: If you're not prioritizing it towards some objective, you're going
- 28:12Speaker 2: to be vulnerable to the external world that loves to
- 28:15Speaker 2: sell you distractions.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, cool.
- 28:17Speaker 1: So what did you call that that's on your web
- 28:19Speaker 1: Because this is the crux of what I'm getting at
- 28:22Speaker 1: is that when people aren't clear about what's important to them,
- 28:26Speaker 1: or that they don't have a strong sense of meaning
- 28:28Speaker 1: and purpose in life, that they can get sucked into
- 28:32Speaker 1: this vortex.
- 28:32Speaker 3: So what did you call that process on your website?
- 28:35Speaker 1: Because that's what I'm really trying to focus on.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Well, the website, doctor dmartiniu dot com has a value
- 28:45Speaker 2: determination process on there for years on value determination process,
- 28:49Speaker 2: and millions of people have used it. Corporations us that
- 28:52Speaker 2: governments have used it, and every client that I work
- 28:57Speaker 2: with I ask them to do that because I want
- 28:59Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm communicating what I value in
- 29:03Speaker 2: terms of those values to maximize the dialogue and to
- 29:06Speaker 2: receptivity of the information that I present. So if you
- 29:10Speaker 2: go on doctor Demarchi dot com, look for determine your
- 29:13Speaker 2: values or value determination, it'll pull up a little spot
- 29:17Speaker 2: you can easily find it hit that it'll take thirty
- 29:20Speaker 2: minutes of your time to answer these thirteen questions. But
- 29:24Speaker 2: if you answer them as honestly as you can, you'll
- 29:27Speaker 2: see that there's a reiterated pattern that emerges in the
- 29:31Speaker 2: answers if you're honest, and it'll be self evident when
- 29:35Speaker 2: you're done. What's really important to you. But you want
- 29:38Speaker 2: to get really concise, Like when I say teaching, that's
- 29:42Speaker 2: a bit vague. But if I don't teach about how
- 29:45Speaker 2: to make candlesticks, I don't teach about how to cook
- 29:49Speaker 2: CD soup. My teaching is primarily on how to maximize
- 29:55Speaker 2: human awareness of potential, the evolvement of human consciousness, self
- 29:59Speaker 2: actual is, and self mastery. That's it. So if I
- 30:04Speaker 2: look at what I want to teach and get really
- 30:06Speaker 2: tight on it, it'll bring a tear of inspiration, a
- 30:10Speaker 2: confirmation of authenticity when you nail it. Because when you do,
- 30:14Speaker 2: your highest value is your tellos, it's your purpose. Your
- 30:20Speaker 2: teleological purpose revolves around your highest value. Your onto logical
- 30:26Speaker 2: identity revolves around your highest value, and your epistemological area
- 30:30Speaker 2: of expertise. The area where you're going to shine the
- 30:33Speaker 2: most knowledge and core competence. It's going to be around
- 30:35Speaker 2: the highest value. So knowing that, knowing thyself, being thyself,
- 30:41Speaker 2: loving thyself, as the Delphic Oracle said, it starts with
- 30:44Speaker 2: those values. The third value determination process. Third value determinant
- 30:50Speaker 2: is energy. Anytime you're doing something to tie on your value,
- 30:55Speaker 2: the blood glucose noction goes into the forebrain. The fore
- 30:58Speaker 2: brain has a medial prefer cortex in there. When you
- 31:02Speaker 2: are congruent with what you value most, there is what
- 31:05Speaker 2: they call spontaneous action potentials, and the mitochondria increase in
- 31:12Speaker 2: number and in quantity box data fossilization. The ATP levels
- 31:16Speaker 2: go up, so you spontaneously raise your energy your vitality
- 31:21Speaker 2: in life in direct proportion to how congruent you are
- 31:24Speaker 2: with what you value most. Anytime you're doing the highest
- 31:26Speaker 2: priority value in your life, your energy maximizes and you're
- 31:31Speaker 2: engaged and you spontaneously want to act and do it.
- 31:34Speaker 2: That's for your most effective and efficient and in the flow,
- 31:38Speaker 2: so your energy levels the third value to terminate. If
- 31:41Speaker 2: you look carefully, your rearticular activating system wakes up when
- 31:44Speaker 2: you're doing higher value things and shuts down when you're
- 31:46Speaker 2: not your thalamus, and it's filtering mechanism of the pulvinar
- 31:52Speaker 2: nucleus filters in information. You go conscious awareness if it's
- 31:55Speaker 2: high on values, and filters it out if it's low.
- 31:58Speaker 2: So you're maximizing your aware fareness and your energy levels
- 32:01Speaker 2: and potential the moment you're congrowing with what you value most,
- 32:05Speaker 2: so your energy level, the top three things that energize
- 32:08Speaker 2: you most, that you always have energy for, and that
- 32:10Speaker 2: when you do, you have more energy at the end
- 32:12Speaker 2: than when you started. That's an indicator of what you
- 32:15Speaker 2: value the fourth thing. The fourth thing is money. You
- 32:21Speaker 2: find money, make money, spend money on things that are
- 32:23Speaker 2: really valuable to you. But you don't want to spend
- 32:26Speaker 2: money or find money for things that don't. When a
- 32:28Speaker 2: husband and wife goes to a mall, he thinks she's
- 32:32Speaker 2: wasting money on things that are not important. She thinks
- 32:35Speaker 2: she's wasting money on things that aren't important because they
- 32:37Speaker 2: have two different set of value systems. Now, what's important
- 32:41Speaker 2: to them may not be what's important to the mate,
- 32:44Speaker 2: as I've said, because there's a unique set of values
- 32:46Speaker 2: fingerprints specific So, but whatever is highest on your value.
- 32:51Speaker 2: You will find money and make sure you have money
- 32:53Speaker 2: for fulfilling whatever that is. In my case, I love traveling.
- 32:57Speaker 2: I can spend at least a half a million dollars
- 32:59Speaker 2: a year on try. I have a high value on investing.
- 33:03Speaker 2: I can put at least a million dollars in investments
- 33:05Speaker 2: every year. And so I am constantly finding ways of
- 33:08Speaker 2: getting my money to go into the direction where I go.
- 33:11Speaker 2: But something that's not valuable to me, somebody's trying to
- 33:14Speaker 2: sell me something that's not valuable. Thank you, but no,
- 33:16Speaker 2: thank you, not going anywhere. You can't sell me something
- 33:19Speaker 2: that I'm not interested in, and I have foresight of
- 33:21Speaker 2: what it is. I already know what I'm going to buy.
- 33:23Speaker 2: You can't sell me something I'm not interested in buying.
- 33:26Speaker 2: But somebody that doesn't know what they're wanting is more
- 33:30Speaker 2: vulnerable to impulse buying and in instinct buying, avoiding pain,
- 33:34Speaker 2: seeking pleasure. And so you look at how you spend
- 33:38Speaker 2: your money, where's your money going first most, second most,
- 33:41Speaker 2: and third most. And somebody say, well, I've got to
- 33:44Speaker 2: pay bills. They got to pay for a house. Well, no,
- 33:48Speaker 2: you've chosen because you value having a house. I don't
- 33:52Speaker 2: have a home. I have a ship, but I don't have
- 33:54Speaker 2: a home. I don't value home. I don't need a
- 33:57Speaker 2: house on a piece of land somewhere. So people that do,
- 34:01Speaker 2: they find money for it. People that don't, they find
- 34:04Speaker 2: money for things that are valuable for them. So look
- 34:07Speaker 2: at what your money is spent on and that'll tell
- 34:09Speaker 2: you what you're valuing. The fifth one is where you're
- 34:13Speaker 2: most ordered and organized. As you go up in the
- 34:17Speaker 2: area of values the hierarchariy values, your level of order
- 34:20Speaker 2: goes up, and as you go down, the level of
- 34:22Speaker 2: disorder goes up. Why is because of pulvinar nuclei filters
- 34:27Speaker 2: information into conscious awareness. If it's high in value and
- 34:30Speaker 2: therefore your most aware there, you have the highest awareness there,
- 34:34Speaker 2: the most knowledge there, and therefore the most order. Claud
- 34:38Speaker 2: Shannon and information theory from MIT says that disorder is
- 34:42Speaker 2: missing information and order is reclaiming information. So when you
- 34:46Speaker 2: have something low in your values, you filter it out
- 34:48Speaker 2: of your awareness, and if it's high in your values,
- 34:51Speaker 2: you allow it into your awareness. So you have most
- 34:54Speaker 2: order in your highest value and most disorder and your
- 34:56Speaker 2: lower values. So where do you have the most order
- 34:59Speaker 2: in organisization? Well, my case, when I'm teaching, I'm articulating
- 35:04Speaker 2: information in a clear and concise manner that's ordered. My
- 35:07Speaker 2: research and my writing is all organized. I know exactly
- 35:10Speaker 2: where everything goes and where I get it. And in
- 35:13Speaker 2: my travels it's organized, and in my investments it's fully organized.
- 35:17Speaker 2: For forty almost forty four years, I've been very methodical
- 35:20Speaker 2: in doing the same investments over and over again every
- 35:22Speaker 2: single week, consistently buying assets. So there's higher order and
- 35:27Speaker 2: organization and what's high in your value, and there's low
- 35:29Speaker 2: organization and disorder, and it's difficult to make decisions on
- 35:34Speaker 2: lower values because you don't have the information. You're hesitant,
- 35:37Speaker 2: you procrastinate, you frustrate, But what's high in your value,
- 35:40Speaker 2: you're very organized and ordered.
- 35:43Speaker 3: The next one try just to jump in there.
- 35:46Speaker 1: And it's funny that you're saying that, because I am
- 35:49Speaker 1: very ordered around my research and also around traveling.
- 35:54Speaker 3: But I'm absolutely shit ice at admin. So it's just
- 35:59Speaker 3: in you said, if you.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Had to do administration, you'd be bored and burned out
- 36:04Speaker 2: pretty quickly.
- 36:06Speaker 3: Complete completely Okay, if.
- 36:09Speaker 2: You're not delegating lower party things and dedicating to higher
- 36:13Speaker 2: priority things, there's no way to have fulfillment in life.
- 36:18Speaker 2: And I wanted to ask, say, large prioritization.
- 36:22Speaker 1: I wanted to come back to that point around energy,
- 36:25Speaker 1: which was the third one. And and I can see
- 36:27Speaker 1: how these are all connected. But I think it's pretty clear.
- 36:30Speaker 1: You know, you talked about when you're doing something that
- 36:33Speaker 1: that's you know, aligned with your higher values or or
- 36:37Speaker 1: that's purposeful. I mean, and I would guarantee, given that
- 36:41Speaker 1: you've read thirty thousand books, I would guarantee that you've
- 36:44Speaker 1: read Man Search for Meaning by Victor Frankel. But but this,
- 36:48Speaker 1: this whole idea that people can do extraordinary things whenever
- 36:53Speaker 1: they have that strong sense of meaning and purpose or
- 36:55Speaker 1: as you would say, link with their energy with their values,
- 36:58Speaker 1: and they have energy for those things. But conversely, I
- 37:02Speaker 1: think this then works the other way around.
- 37:06Speaker 3: Clearly in a.
- 37:09Speaker 1: Meaningless purpose low values, or if you're working in an
- 37:14Speaker 1: organization that is incongrate with your values, or if you're
- 37:18Speaker 1: in a relationship where there's incongruence with the values, that
- 37:22Speaker 1: can become hugely stressful and to your point, an energy drainer, right,
- 37:28Speaker 1: Because we know that stress, particular psychological stress, affects the
- 37:34Speaker 1: mitochondria affects mitochondrial energy, you know, to the electron transport.
- 37:39Speaker 3: Chain, all of that stuff.
- 37:40Speaker 2: Right, So what's interesting is anytime you do lower, lower
- 37:48Speaker 2: priority activities and you activate your amigla, your migla is
- 37:53Speaker 2: trying to seek pleasure and avoid pain, seek prey, avoid predators,
- 37:56Speaker 2: seek ease, void difficulty, and it's trying to separate the
- 38:00Speaker 2: two polls of the magnet call pleasure and pain. And
- 38:04Speaker 2: anytime it does that, it then makes you gives you
- 38:08Speaker 2: the impression you can experience a pleasure without a pain,
- 38:11Speaker 2: or a pain without a pleasure, which does not occur,
- 38:14Speaker 2: but people think that does. As Kipling says that two
- 38:17Speaker 2: impostors are the illusions of the separation of pain and pleasure.
- 38:22Speaker 2: So if you look carefully, anytime you have a pleasureful experience,
- 38:26Speaker 2: you fear the loss of it. Anytime you have a
- 38:28Speaker 2: painful experience, you fear the gain of it. Where there's
- 38:31Speaker 2: only two forms of stress known, the perception of loss
- 38:34Speaker 2: of something you seek and can't obtain, and the perception
- 38:38Speaker 2: of something you avoid and can escape. Those are every
- 38:41Speaker 2: single stress you'll ever have in your life fall into
- 38:44Speaker 2: one of those two categories. So anytime we're not living
- 38:47Speaker 2: by priority. Our stress levels are our feedback mechanisms to
- 38:51Speaker 2: let us know we are not prioritized, and so our
- 38:57Speaker 2: cell danger responses and our mitochondra regressions are symptoms of
- 39:03Speaker 2: not living by priority and not being authentic because your
- 39:07Speaker 2: higher identity. Remember, your ontological denta revolves around your highest value.
- 39:11Speaker 2: So anytime you move away from higher values, your wellness quotient,
- 39:14Speaker 2: which is a reflective awareness between others and yourself. The
- 39:18Speaker 2: we wellness and say that I illness, I'm separate from others,
- 39:22Speaker 2: I'm judging others. The second we do that, our wellness
- 39:26Speaker 2: quotient goes down. When we start to go into our
- 39:28Speaker 2: amigla and we go into polarity and vicissitudes and volatilities
- 39:32Speaker 2: and instabilities and uncertainties, and we create autonomic dysregulation and
- 39:37Speaker 2: epigenetic methylations and the silation imbalances, and we create physiological
- 39:42Speaker 2: symptoms to let us know we are not being authentic,
- 39:46Speaker 2: we're not being poised and present.
- 39:49Speaker 1: So John, before we come back to this hierarchy around values, right,
- 39:55Speaker 1: if somebody is listening to this and going, oh shit,
- 40:01Speaker 1: I'm living a life that is not congruent with my values.
- 40:07Speaker 1: I'm spending my time on these little value things. I'm
- 40:11Speaker 1: feeling what John is actually talking about? What's the process?
- 40:16Speaker 1: How do they get out of the funk.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is no human being can sustain living
- 40:25Speaker 2: outside their hurricu values, their highest values, without creating symptomatology.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Symptomatology is not an enemy. Symptomatology is a feedback, a
- 40:37Speaker 2: friendly feedback to let you know you're inauthentic in your expression. Now,
- 40:42Speaker 2: what's happening is very simple. If you meet let's say
- 40:46Speaker 2: you're a guy and you meet this beautiful girl and
- 40:49Speaker 2: you're enamored and you're infatuated, and you're a little intimidated,
- 40:55Speaker 2: and you're too humble to admit what you see in
- 40:57Speaker 2: her inside yourself, and you put her up on a
- 41:00Speaker 2: pedestal and minimize yourself. You now have the fear of
- 41:05Speaker 2: loss of it because you're seeking it, and as a
- 41:08Speaker 2: result of it, you'll sacrifice things that are important to
- 41:10Speaker 2: you in order to hold on to her. And so
- 41:14Speaker 2: anytime you put some of you above you and make
- 41:17Speaker 2: them your authority, you will inject the values of those
- 41:20Speaker 2: you make authorities. And every time you inject the value
- 41:24Speaker 2: of an authority, you cloud the clarity of your own
- 41:27Speaker 2: tellos your own highest value, and you try attempt nonsustainably
- 41:33Speaker 2: to live in those people's values, but eventually you build
- 41:37Speaker 2: up enough resentment because you want to be loved to
- 41:39Speaker 2: appreciate for who you are, which is your own highest value,
- 41:42Speaker 2: and so that WANs over time. You start out being infatuated,
- 41:46Speaker 2: and within days or weeks, within months, for sure, you
- 41:48Speaker 2: break that infatuation. You start building up resentments in order
- 41:51Speaker 2: to break the infatuation, and you say, I want my
- 41:54Speaker 2: life back. When you go back, you can't sustain living
- 41:57Speaker 2: in other people's values, but you can then go up
- 42:00Speaker 2: and meet another person you're now infatuated with. And so
- 42:03Speaker 2: if you're constantly meeting people that you put on pedestals
- 42:07Speaker 2: and constantly injecting values of other people, you'll be trying
- 42:11Speaker 2: to live by how you ought to be in being
- 42:13Speaker 2: and imitating other people and sitting in the shadows of
- 42:17Speaker 2: others and trying to be second of being somebody else
- 42:19Speaker 2: instead of being it yourself. And then you'll judge yourself
- 42:22Speaker 2: as making a mistake, thinking I should be doing this,
- 42:25Speaker 2: but I keep doing this, and you'll think you're sabotaging,
- 42:28Speaker 2: but you're defaulting back to what is valuable, but you're
- 42:31Speaker 2: not honoring it because you're comparing yourself to other people
- 42:34Speaker 2: and minimizing you relative to other people. That's where most
- 42:37Speaker 2: people falter. They are comparing themselves to others instead of
- 42:41Speaker 2: comparing your daily actions each moment to what they value most.
- 42:45Speaker 2: How congruent are you moment by moment to what is
- 42:48Speaker 2: truly valuable to?
- 42:51Speaker 3: And so what are people? What's the process? What do
- 42:54Speaker 3: people do to get.
- 42:56Speaker 2: To sellers to have them define their values? Yeah, that's
- 43:00Speaker 2: that first, that's the starting point. That's why I have
- 43:02Speaker 2: it free on my website. Millions of people do it,
- 43:05Speaker 2: and I've tried to say start there, start there by
- 43:09Speaker 2: identifying what they are first. Then it's wise to ask
- 43:14Speaker 2: seven questions. These seven questions. Now that I know what
- 43:20Speaker 2: I value most and what I'm really inspired to do
- 43:22Speaker 2: and would love to do, what is it that I
- 43:26Speaker 2: would actually love to do, Let's define that clearly. What
- 43:29Speaker 2: is that that allows me to fulfill that highest value? So,
- 43:33Speaker 2: if it's teaching, what is it I would love to teach.
- 43:36Speaker 2: If it's researching, what is it I would love to research.
- 43:39Speaker 2: If it's raising children, what is it to how many children?
- 43:43Speaker 2: What children do I would love to have if it's
- 43:46Speaker 2: doing some spiritual ritual? What spiritual ritual do I love?
- 43:49Speaker 2: Defining it and being honest about it and defining it.
- 43:53Speaker 2: What is that I'd aptually love to do? How do
- 43:55Speaker 2: I get handsomely and beautifully paid to do it? Is
- 43:58Speaker 2: number two? Because you've got a vacation, vocation, separation, you
- 44:03Speaker 2: got a schizolnic lives. I do what I love and
- 44:06Speaker 2: I've been handsomely paid to do it. And that's only
- 44:10Speaker 2: because I asked that question. Most people ask how can
- 44:13Speaker 2: I afford to do what I love? Because they're so
- 44:14Speaker 2: accustomed to doing something they don't want to do and
- 44:16Speaker 2: then escaping it with a vacation to spend money on it,
- 44:20Speaker 2: So they've got those things backwards. Instead of doing what
- 44:23Speaker 2: they love and getting paid for it, they're doing what
- 44:25Speaker 2: they love and having to pay for it, and they're
- 44:27Speaker 2: doing what they don't love in order to get paid.
- 44:30Speaker 2: And that schizoid life creates a quiet life of desperation
- 44:34Speaker 2: instead of a life of inspiration. So once we have that,
- 44:38Speaker 2: we ask, what are the highest priority action steps I
- 44:40Speaker 2: can do today to make that happen? And that's not
- 44:44Speaker 2: really rocket science I've taken people of all ages through
- 44:48Speaker 2: that and all of a sudden directed them. The fourth
- 44:51Speaker 2: question is what obstacles might I run into and how
- 44:54Speaker 2: do I solve them in advance? The fifth question is
- 44:58Speaker 2: what worked and what didn't work today? As I'm doing
- 45:01Speaker 2: these action steps. The next one is how do I
- 45:04Speaker 2: do it more effectively and efficiently tomorrow? How do I
- 45:07Speaker 2: refine it? And Matt make it more masthful and refined.
- 45:11Speaker 2: I just had a video sent to me for my
- 45:14Speaker 2: daughter last night, and my granddaughter just got the golden
- 45:19Speaker 2: buzzard on America's Got Talent. Wow. It was a tear jerking,
- 45:25Speaker 2: heart opening watching her perform. It was off the chart,
- 45:30Speaker 2: it was amazing. And so she has identified what she
- 45:36Speaker 2: wants to do polished and refined, and how to how
- 45:39Speaker 2: do I do it more effectively and efficiently. She's following
- 45:41Speaker 2: these questions and the last question that's why she got it.
- 45:46Speaker 2: And then the last question is how did no matter
- 45:49Speaker 2: what happened to me today, how did he get me
- 45:51Speaker 2: one step closer to my objective? So that means no
- 45:55Speaker 2: matter what happens, it's it's you're learning to not see
- 45:59Speaker 2: it as a mistake, seeing it as a seed. M.
- 46:03Speaker 2: If you ask those seven questions, you'll increase the probability
- 46:06Speaker 2: of doing what you love and loving what you're doing
- 46:09Speaker 2: getting paid.
- 46:09Speaker 3: For it, which to me, now that's pretty cool. And
- 46:14Speaker 3: I do like, I do like the process that you've
- 46:16Speaker 3: got there.
- 46:16Speaker 1: And it actually it kind of reminds me of of
- 46:19Speaker 1: Japanese psychology, which which my wife is a practitioner of.
- 46:23Speaker 1: And and they say and in Japanese psychology that that
- 46:27Speaker 1: we get in trouble when we live a life that
- 46:29Speaker 1: is dictated by our feelings and emotions and and and
- 46:33Speaker 1: the goal of Japanese psychology, particularly Marita therapy, is to
- 46:37Speaker 1: live a life of action that is aligned with your values,
- 46:40Speaker 1: which is exactly what you're talking about.
- 46:43Speaker 2: Aristotle said, there's tellos, and there's the affections and passions
- 46:48Speaker 2: that distract you. Yes, and those all he's talking about
- 46:52Speaker 2: is the executive center, the media, priefund cortex, and the amigla.
- 46:56Speaker 2: Our neuroscience has quit a neural correlation to what has
- 46:59Speaker 2: been described for the centuries. So that's why prioritization is
- 47:04Speaker 2: such a crucial thing. I have a program that I
- 47:07Speaker 2: teach called Priority Code, the Priority Code where I try
- 47:10Speaker 2: to train people in four hours on very practical action
- 47:14Speaker 2: steps to maximize their self actualized pathway. And it's not
- 47:18Speaker 2: rocket science. There's nothing anybody can't do. It's just they're
- 47:22Speaker 2: not aware of it and they don't have yet the
- 47:24Speaker 2: developed discipline to go and do it. But when you really, really,
- 47:28Speaker 2: really have a value on doing something, you'll do it anyway.
- 47:32Speaker 2: The next question is what are you most disciplined, reliable
- 47:36Speaker 2: and focused on. You know you can count on me
- 47:39Speaker 2: to be teaching, researching, and writing and traveling. Anybody that
- 47:43Speaker 2: really knows me doesn't ask me what are you up to?
- 47:46Speaker 2: They say where are you teaching today? What are you
- 47:51Speaker 2: researching today? Where are you today? They don't ask how's
- 47:58Speaker 2: your cars? I don't even have a car. I haven't
- 48:00Speaker 2: driven a car in thirty six years. Because anybody that
- 48:03Speaker 2: knows me knows my values and knows not to waste
- 48:05Speaker 2: your time asking other questions. But I ain't doing it.
- 48:09Speaker 2: I've delegated everything off my plate and I only do
- 48:12Speaker 2: four basic things teach, research, right, and travel. Everything is delegated,
- 48:17Speaker 2: and kiss my girlfriend and everything is off the plate.
- 48:21Speaker 2: So all the lower party things, which is the source
- 48:23Speaker 2: of stress, is most people don't delegate, and therefore they
- 48:27Speaker 2: have a stress full life. A distress not a youth stress,
- 48:32Speaker 2: but pursuing challenges that you love. Is you stress? Which
- 48:36Speaker 2: is wellness promoting? Yeah?
- 48:37Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 48:38Speaker 2: And so where are your most disciplined, reliable, and focused.
- 48:42Speaker 2: You can count on me to teach, research, right, and travel.
- 48:46Speaker 2: You can't count on me to do anything else. I'm
- 48:47Speaker 2: going to betray you. See, Betrayal is not what somebody
- 48:50Speaker 2: does to you. Betrayals what you do to you. When
- 48:53Speaker 2: you expect somebody to live outside their values and to
- 48:55Speaker 2: live in yours, they're not going to do it. I
- 49:00Speaker 2: expect my girlfriend to not be working out, you know,
- 49:06Speaker 2: I'm going to be betrayed because she's going to work
- 49:07Speaker 2: out every day. She does it every single day. She's
- 49:09Speaker 2: in perfect thing. So I can't expect her to live
- 49:13Speaker 2: outside her values and in mind. And that's one of
- 49:15Speaker 2: the big delusions. People are expected to live in other
- 49:18Speaker 2: people's values that they put on pedestals and try to
- 49:21Speaker 2: be like and imitate them, which is futile, non sustainable,
- 49:25Speaker 2: Or they're trying to get other people to live in
- 49:26Speaker 2: their values. We don't make mistakes in our own values.
- 49:30Speaker 2: We only make mistakes we think we make mistakes when
- 49:33Speaker 2: we compare our actions to somebody else's values we put
- 49:35Speaker 2: above us that we've injected, and we only think other
- 49:39Speaker 2: people make mistakes when we project our values onto them
- 49:41Speaker 2: and think they should be living in our values. But
- 49:44Speaker 2: the mistakes don'tccur inside their own individual values because that's
- 49:47Speaker 2: what's making the decisions they're making, but they're not honoring
- 49:50Speaker 2: it because they're thinking they should be doing something else.
- 49:52Speaker 2: That's why I'm not interested in the Oughts. I'm interested
- 49:54Speaker 2: in what they are.
- 49:57Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a tyranny of the tyranny of the Shulds
- 50:00Speaker 3: and the tyranny of the Oughts.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Right.
- 50:02Speaker 1: But I wanted to come back then, to bring this
- 50:07Speaker 1: back to Aristotle and when you talked about that tell
- 50:11Speaker 1: Us and the passions, because the ancient Greeks talked a
- 50:15Speaker 1: lot about the passions and that the passions are basically
- 50:19Speaker 1: a distraction and particular and I think this is kind
- 50:24Speaker 1: of fundamental to what's happening today.
- 50:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 50:26Speaker 1: So there's this existential crisis that a lot of people
- 50:29Speaker 1: are having. They don't have tell Us, they don't have
- 50:31Speaker 1: a clear sense of meaning and purpose in their life,
- 50:34Speaker 1: and then the passions are going to distract them massively.
- 50:38Speaker 1: And the problem, I think John, is that that you know,
- 50:41Speaker 1: if you spend your mind, put your mind back thirty
- 50:44Speaker 1: years ago the passions to then versus the passions now.
- 50:49Speaker 1: I mean, you just need to look at food and
- 50:51Speaker 1: the ultra processed food and just how much more of
- 50:55Speaker 1: a pool that is in terms of dopamine and driving
- 50:59Speaker 1: addictive behavior. We talked about social media and all of
- 51:02Speaker 1: those entertainment things that are all designed to hijack your attention,
- 51:06Speaker 1: but fundamentally it is really coming back to this whole
- 51:10Speaker 1: idea of an absence of tell us those passions are
- 51:14Speaker 1: going to distract you, and nowadays because they are nuclear
- 51:19Speaker 1: passions that they're not just distracting people, they're just consuming
- 51:23Speaker 1: their lives, right, And then they're doing these behaviors that
- 51:26Speaker 1: are incongruent with what they think they should do. And
- 51:30Speaker 1: then they get more stressed and they're comforted or drink
- 51:33Speaker 1: more alcohol or whatever, and they feel they're not sleeping well.
- 51:36Speaker 3: And the whole thing on Revels.
- 51:39Speaker 2: You nailed it. Immediate gratifying, impulsive, compulsive, addictive behaviors are
- 51:46Speaker 2: compensations for unfulfilled high values, and thatism that includes eating
- 51:55Speaker 2: you know. There's when I ask people about eating disorders,
- 52:00Speaker 2: and because I've worked with that for forty something years
- 52:03Speaker 2: and and I have people, I ask them, when you
- 52:07Speaker 2: get distressed, how many of you overeat? And hands go up?
- 52:11Speaker 2: How many of the under eight hands go up? I said,
- 52:15Speaker 2: I want you to go to a moment when you
- 52:16Speaker 2: over ate, when you were stressed. Everybody, go to that
- 52:19Speaker 2: moment right down where it was, when it was and
- 52:22Speaker 2: what was the stress. And now go to moment when
- 52:25Speaker 2: there was under eating. Where was it, when was it?
- 52:28Speaker 2: What was the stress. I hadn't really pin it down.
- 52:31Speaker 2: I said, there's only two forms of stress. The perception
- 52:35Speaker 2: of loss or non obtainings of what you seek, which
- 52:39Speaker 2: stimulates graylin, which automatically makes you eat more because you're
- 52:45Speaker 2: It's like, imagine this. Imagine we're going to a restaurant
- 52:49Speaker 2: and we order a food that we like, and we
- 52:52Speaker 2: expect that food to be there within fifteen minutes, and
- 52:56Speaker 2: it's now thirty. Our hunger goes up because we're notting
- 53:00Speaker 2: what we want. Then they come and after they finally
- 53:04Speaker 2: deliver it, it's the wrong thing, and you just have
- 53:06Speaker 2: to send it back. Now you're starved, and now you
- 53:10Speaker 2: want to eat, so your grayling goes up. Anytime the
- 53:15Speaker 2: thing you seek escapes you, or the thing you seek
- 53:18Speaker 2: you can't obtain, or the fear of loss fit somebody's
- 53:22Speaker 2: taking away from you, grayling goes up, so you overeat
- 53:25Speaker 2: during that. And when somebody's doing something you don't want
- 53:29Speaker 2: and you can't escape, that leftin goes up, so graylen
- 53:34Speaker 2: and leptin and insulin and glucagon are basically mechanisms to
- 53:40Speaker 2: let you know when something is supporting or challenging your
- 53:43Speaker 2: values and will cause you to overeat or underreat. It's
- 53:46Speaker 2: not random, it's not a bochemical imbalance because of a
- 53:49Speaker 2: lack of drug. It is primarily because of these things.
- 53:53Speaker 2: And when I ask people, I get one hundred percent
- 53:56Speaker 2: going WHOA. I never knew that, never thought about that.
- 54:00Speaker 2: That was the stress that I was overeating that I
- 54:02Speaker 2: was facing was I'm not getting what I want or
- 54:05Speaker 2: I'm afraid I'm going to lose it, or I'm getting
- 54:07Speaker 2: what I don't want and I'm afraid i can't escape it.
- 54:09Speaker 2: So those are basic mechanisms that the amigla assigned to
- 54:13Speaker 2: the nuclears, circumbents and up into the thalamus to let
- 54:16Speaker 2: the responses because everything that we have a stress is
- 54:20Speaker 2: basically somehow the fear of loss of prey and the
- 54:23Speaker 2: fear of gain a predator. And when we're under predator,
- 54:26Speaker 2: we don't eat. When we're in the prey, we want
- 54:27Speaker 2: to eat. So our disorders are not random, they're very precise.
- 54:32Speaker 2: And if we know how I asked the question to
- 54:35Speaker 2: transform the ratios of perceptions, these disorders are so simple
- 54:39Speaker 2: to neutralize, it's ridiculous.
- 54:42Speaker 1: I actually think a lot of the disorders, particularly the
- 54:45Speaker 1: milder psychological disorders, should all be rebranded under one and
- 54:51Speaker 1: I call it MLD Modern lifestyle disorder.
- 54:55Speaker 2: I think that reitization disorder.
- 54:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:00Speaker 1: Interesting, you talked about leftin and grelling there because and
- 55:04Speaker 1: just a close the loop on that is that when
- 55:07Speaker 1: people are overeating or doing this stuff, or they're having stress,
- 55:12Speaker 1: stress we know interferes with sleep. And we know Nai
- 55:16Speaker 1: as you will well know, John, that if you have
- 55:18Speaker 1: poor sleep number one year level of stress, hormones are
- 55:21Speaker 1: higher the next day. Grelling is high on the next
- 55:23Speaker 1: day because of the poor sleep, which means you're going
- 55:25Speaker 1: to eat more.
- 55:26Speaker 3: And because cord is all is high. You want sugary, fatty,
- 55:28Speaker 3: salty food.
- 55:29Speaker 1: Leptin, as you rightly said, is reduced, and that governs
- 55:32Speaker 1: voluntary physical activity and cessation of eating. So you'll over eat,
- 55:36Speaker 1: You're much less likely to exercise. Then you're less able
- 55:40Speaker 1: to handle the stress of the day's events. Then you're
- 55:43Speaker 1: more likely to go home in the evening stressed and
- 55:45Speaker 1: soothe your stress with either alcohol or shit food and
- 55:49Speaker 1: then bang, rinse and repeat.
- 55:50Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, now, let me address something because I'm probably
- 55:56Speaker 2: going to challenge some people with this statement. But there's
- 55:59Speaker 2: no nothing out there that's stress. There's no stress out there.
- 56:04Speaker 1: You got stress perception, perception, public's out there.
- 56:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I take people who swear they got a stress,
- 56:13Speaker 2: ask them a series of questions, make them conscious of
- 56:16Speaker 2: what they were unconscious of, dissolve the perception of stress,
- 56:20Speaker 2: the stress, the thing that was out there hasn't changed,
- 56:23Speaker 2: but their perceptions have it changed. So the races of
- 56:26Speaker 2: your perception are what we call stress. And if we
- 56:29Speaker 2: have a ratio of more negatives and pauses, we get
- 56:32Speaker 2: a sympathetic response, a fight or flight response, if we
- 56:36Speaker 2: have the other, which is left in stimulating. If we
- 56:38Speaker 2: have the other and we get more pauses and negatives,
- 56:41Speaker 2: we get a pair of sympathetic response, which is now
- 56:44Speaker 2: seeking food, rest and to jest. So one's excitatory, one's
- 56:48Speaker 2: inhibitory to the brain. So if you look, these are
- 56:52Speaker 2: not random. They can be narrowed down very precise and
- 56:56Speaker 2: neutralized and addressed. And anytime you're infatuto with something and
- 57:03Speaker 2: see way more positives and negativism and conscious of the upsides,
- 57:06Speaker 2: unconscious of the downsides, you're going to have a fantasy
- 57:08Speaker 2: at night and have insomnia and you won't be able
- 57:10Speaker 2: to sleep. You can be fantasizing about what you're going
- 57:13Speaker 2: to do with a wet dream, excuse my expression. And
- 57:16Speaker 2: if you have a nightmare and you have resentment to somebody,
- 57:19Speaker 2: you're going to have a dry dream. I'm making these
- 57:21Speaker 2: words out there, You're going to have a nightmare. Having
- 57:26Speaker 2: to deal with avoidance mechanisms. So each one of those
- 57:31Speaker 2: RASI as a perception, support over challenge, positive over negative,
- 57:35Speaker 2: pleasure over pain. Insomnia is a feedback mechanism to let
- 57:41Speaker 2: you know that you're imbalanced in your RACI as a
- 57:43Speaker 2: perception and are polarized with your amigla and are blind
- 57:48Speaker 2: with your unconscious to one side or the other. And
- 57:51Speaker 2: the second I ask you questions, Identify what the stress is,
- 57:55Speaker 2: Identify what the thing you're seeking or avoiding. Ask the
- 57:58Speaker 2: right questions, bounce. I can allow them to be going
- 58:01Speaker 2: to sleep, probably in fifteen to thirty minutes. If I
- 58:04Speaker 2: asked a questioning it.
- 58:07Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's stoic undertones in that, obviously, isn't there.
- 58:12Speaker 2: It's not events important purpose was, and they understood the passions.
- 58:16Speaker 2: The word passion comes from patti and passio, which means
- 58:20Speaker 2: to suffer. That's what the passions. People go around today
- 58:24Speaker 2: a new age movement saying, well, find my passion always
- 58:27Speaker 2: so passionate. They don't realize that that word means to suffer.
- 58:30Speaker 2: Compassion means to suffer with somebody. I'm not interested in
- 58:34Speaker 2: the passions zero interest and compassion and passion. Those are
- 58:38Speaker 2: for people that don't know how to master their life.
- 58:40Speaker 2: I'm interested in an individual on how to live a
- 58:43Speaker 2: life with mission, how to have meaning, how to be inspired.
- 58:47Speaker 2: Not polarized perception synthesized callings where you're you're seeing both
- 58:54Speaker 2: sides wisely objectively, simultaneously, untouched by the eu usions of
- 59:00Speaker 2: one sided perceptions that distract you, which cause the amigola
- 59:05Speaker 2: is doing and This is what happens when you're living
- 59:07Speaker 2: by priority. When you live by priority, you more reasonable,
- 59:10Speaker 2: more objective, more stable, less volatile, more missionful, less passionfle.
- 59:17Speaker 1: Mm hmm, John, We do need to stop it there
- 59:21Speaker 1: because I have to run. But this has been this
- 59:23Speaker 1: has been awesome, And I think the priority we're finishing
- 59:27Speaker 1: on priorities. I think the priority for people if they
- 59:30Speaker 1: they want to live a life that that is aligned
- 59:34Speaker 1: with their values. I think the first step is to
- 59:36Speaker 1: go to your website, doctor John.
- 59:39Speaker 3: Is it doctor John Martini dot com?
- 59:41Speaker 2: Just doctor d Martini de Martinez a word.
- 59:45Speaker 1: Doctor de Martini and it's d E Yeah, doctor d
- 59:48Speaker 1: Martini dot dot com. Do that values determination process? Because
- 59:54Speaker 1: I am completely aligned with you. We've got to get
- 59:57Speaker 1: clear on our values and and that that tell losses
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: is absolutely critical.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: I think I think.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: They You are basically taking what the agent Greeks talked
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: about and adding a shitload of science and experience over
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: thirty years, forty years, fifty years interacting with people.
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: To actually give them a clear process. So John, on
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: behalf of the human race.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: One last thing? Can I say one last thing?
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: Because you can't the tellos.
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: In Aristotle's tournament end in mind. There you go final,
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: cause you're transcending causality, which the Bododhs called the karmic wheel,
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: and you're now in the dharmic path. It also is
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: the telencephalon, the end of the brain, So the telencephalon,
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: the media prefund cortex is the telencephalon, and the teleomers,
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: the tips of the genes are extended the moment you
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: live with your tellos in your telencephalon. While because the
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: space and time horizons of individuals expand every time they're
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: living by their tellos, and they shrink for immediate gratification
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: and shorten their life span every time they don't. So
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: if you want to live longer, you want to live
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: with more order and resonance, prioritize your life and delegate
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: lower party things. Pardon me for going an extra second.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: I just wanted to say that.
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: Now, all good. It's a very nice way to cap
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: it off.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: So John, thank you very much for all that you do,
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: and yeah, continue that awesome journey.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Thank you. Appreciate you give me time on your website,
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: thank you, and your podcast