Latest / She's On The Money / She's 25, Owns a Home, Has No HECS Debt and Still Thinks She's a B- With Money
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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name is Satasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations
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- 0:45Speaker 2: She's on the Money.
- 0:47Speaker 3: She's on the Money. Hello, and welcome to She's on
- 0:53Speaker 3: the Money, the podcast that lets you be pervy about
- 0:55Speaker 3: other people's money habits for educational purposes, of course. Welcome's
- 1:00Speaker 3: back to another one of our money diaries, brought to
- 1:02Speaker 3: you by our friends at Skywealth, where I get the
- 1:04Speaker 3: absolute privilege of sitting down with one of our incredible
- 1:07Speaker 3: She's on the Money community members and talking to them
- 1:10Speaker 3: all about their journey. Let's jump straight into it, because
- 1:13Speaker 3: this week I got a message and it sounded exactly
- 1:16Speaker 3: like this. Hi, She's on the Money. I absolutely love
- 1:19Speaker 3: the podcast and especially listening to the Money Stories episodes,
- 1:23Speaker 3: so I thought it was probably time for me to
- 1:25Speaker 3: share mine. Anyone who knows me says that I am
- 1:28Speaker 3: a very hard worker and that I am very goal
- 1:30Speaker 3: driven for someone my age. Once I get a glimpse
- 1:33Speaker 3: of something in my vision, it's full steam ahead until
- 1:36Speaker 3: I can achieve it and then cross it off my list.
- 1:39Speaker 3: I've smashed some of my goals in the last few years,
- 1:41Speaker 3: and I am so keen to share them with the
- 1:43Speaker 3: She's on the Money community. Here's a short list. I'm
- 1:46Speaker 3: twenty five, I have a mortgage. I've invested more than
- 1:49Speaker 3: one thousand dollars into the share market since November twenty
- 1:51Speaker 3: twenty five. I have just over fifty three thousand dollars
- 1:55Speaker 3: in super I studied to upskill in my chosen field
- 1:58Speaker 3: and have since paid off my hext completely. Don't have
- 2:01Speaker 3: a credit card, don't have personal loans, and I own
- 2:03Speaker 3: my own car. I definitely work hard for what I have,
- 2:07Speaker 3: and I love to make my money work hard for
- 2:09Speaker 3: me in all the ways that I can. I'm a
- 2:11Speaker 3: sucker for a points or a reward system for things
- 2:14Speaker 3: I would be buying already, and believe that these small
- 2:16Speaker 3: tips and tricks really helped to add up to the
- 2:19Speaker 3: bigger picture. I would love the opportunity to share my
- 2:21Speaker 3: full money story, money diarist, I would love the opportunity
- 2:25Speaker 3: to talk to you about your money story. What a weapon.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having me.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Twenty five and you've done all that? Yes,
- 2:33Speaker 3: she's just a baby.
- 2:34Speaker 2: I am. I feel like a baby and also old
- 2:37Speaker 2: at the same time. I feel like I'm wise. Yeah.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Look, we haven't known each other for that long, but
- 2:42Speaker 3: you just come across as one of those souls. You've
- 2:44Speaker 3: been here before, haven't you? Like you've just you've been
- 2:47Speaker 3: told that since you were tiny, haven't you? I knew
- 2:51Speaker 3: it all right, let's get into it. What grade would
- 2:53Speaker 3: you give your money habits if I asked you to
- 2:55Speaker 3: give them a grade from A through to F.
- 2:57Speaker 2: At the moment, I'll probably say be minus. There's always
- 3:00Speaker 2: room for improvement.
- 3:01Speaker 3: I'd be minus. My husband mortgage only twenty five one
- 3:04Speaker 3: thousand dollars, Like, I feel like I've got your life
- 3:06Speaker 3: story before we get into it, and usually I don't
- 3:09Speaker 3: get to ask the specifics. I'm probably gonna have to
- 3:12Speaker 3: fight you later. Is that okay, that's all right? I'd
- 3:14Speaker 3: be minus all right? Now my favorite part. Can you
- 3:17Speaker 3: tell me a little bit more about your money story
- 3:20Speaker 3: and the things that have impacted it.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Yeah. So I grew up in a small rural town
- 3:25Speaker 2: in Victoria, and I was taught from a very young
- 3:28Speaker 2: age to work hard and save my money from my
- 3:32Speaker 2: parents they are very wise, but also to make money
- 3:37Speaker 2: work for you, and I think that was always something
- 3:39Speaker 2: that was chilled into me very young. When that saving
- 3:42Speaker 2: wasn't enough, so as soon as I could, I think
- 3:45Speaker 2: it was fourteen and nine months back then, I got
- 3:47Speaker 2: a job in a supermarket. And I think being in
- 3:50Speaker 2: the workforce from such a young age helped me mature
- 3:53Speaker 2: quite a lot, and always working with people who are
- 3:55Speaker 2: older than me obviously, so that was always something that
- 3:57Speaker 2: I looked up to. When I I probably did set
- 4:02Speaker 2: unrealistic goals for some of my age because I'm like, oh,
- 4:05Speaker 2: they've got this, I really want that too, and things
- 4:08Speaker 2: like that, but I suppose it made me work harder.
- 4:11Speaker 3: When you say unrealistic, did you achieve them?
- 4:14Speaker 2: Though? I did?
- 4:15Speaker 3: Yes, So what's unrealistic about that?
- 4:18Speaker 2: Well, it's always something that I've looked forward to, I
- 4:21Speaker 2: suppose is to just have that next thing to work towards.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Maybe unrelatable like if you in you're bad, oh my god,
- 4:27Speaker 3: so out of touch way, but more like, oh my goodness,
- 4:30Speaker 3: she's basically still a child and she wants to, you know,
- 4:33Speaker 3: buy her own car or do this other thing. Yes,
- 4:35Speaker 3: not completely out of reach, but also like that's not
- 4:38Speaker 3: what I did, And that doesn't mean that it's the standard.
- 4:42Speaker 3: But I think that most people when I was eighteen,
- 4:45Speaker 3: we would just live love, laughing, you know, like we
- 4:48Speaker 3: didn't have proper frontal lobes. Did yours de develop like
- 4:51Speaker 3: really early or something? Is that what happened?
- 4:53Speaker 2: I used to have developed quite early, because people would
- 4:55Speaker 2: often say to me, I'm like, god, Georgia, calm down,
- 4:57Speaker 2: like you're only young. You still got your life ahead
- 4:59Speaker 2: of you, and you know everything doesn't have to happen
- 5:02Speaker 2: in the next five minutes, like you've got years. Don't
- 5:04Speaker 2: worry about it.
- 5:04Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did it, though so, and I think
- 5:08Speaker 3: that that's the funniest behalf of this because everyone's telling
- 5:10Speaker 3: you not to and you're like, yeah, but I did
- 5:12Speaker 3: though the cow hard? Could it be men do it?
- 5:15Speaker 2: Yeah? That's right, exactly.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Exactly, So tell me a bit more. Once you've got
- 5:20Speaker 3: your supermarket job, you're setting unrealistic expectations for yourself but
- 5:24Speaker 3: achieving them. What is that transpired into?
- 5:27Speaker 2: Yeah? So I think I went to school Monday to Friday,
- 5:30Speaker 2: and then on the weekend spot Saturday and Sunday, I
- 5:32Speaker 2: was at my supermarket job. And I think being in
- 5:35Speaker 2: a smaller town, it was a smaller supermarket, so there
- 5:37Speaker 2: was no four hour shifts or anything like that where
- 5:40Speaker 2: they probably would have been in a metro setting, so
- 5:43Speaker 2: it was like eight hour days done. So then of
- 5:45Speaker 2: course payday came around and I was like, oh my god, money,
- 5:48Speaker 2: this is so good.
- 5:49Speaker 3: I just know it was an ida or a food work,
- 5:51Speaker 3: wasn't it.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think just having that money on payday,
- 5:57Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is so good.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Why am I even going to school? I just hate
- 6:01Speaker 2: it and don't want to be there. I could be
- 6:03Speaker 2: at work earning money. And I spoke to Mum and
- 6:05Speaker 2: Dad about it, and I was like, I just don't
- 6:07Speaker 2: want to be at school. I'm not good at it.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Like I was terrible at maths, which is kind of
- 6:12Speaker 2: ironic now because I'm I'm a nurse.
- 6:13Speaker 3: And you're also on the money podcast.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was just terrible at it and I
- 6:19Speaker 2: didn't have the attention span, couldn't sit still. I was
- 6:22Speaker 2: just like, I just want to go to work, work hard,
- 6:24Speaker 2: bill in the day, get paid, go home. But yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 2: I think that drive for money. The minute school holidays
- 6:30Speaker 2: came around, I was like, guys, I'm available, Like give
- 6:32Speaker 2: me some extra shifts and just anything that you've got,
- 6:34Speaker 2: I'll take it. Yvery very blessed that Mum and Dad
- 6:37Speaker 2: was still able to drive me to all of that
- 6:39Speaker 2: around their work schedules.
- 6:40Speaker 3: That's the worst thing about living rule, really, isn't it.
- 6:43Speaker 3: That's the public transport.
- 6:45Speaker 2: None. There was none in the town that I lived,
- 6:47Speaker 2: so that was definitely the worst part. Dad had his
- 6:50Speaker 2: own plumbing business, and Mum worked in healthcare but sort
- 6:54Speaker 2: of in the office adminside of things, and so they
- 6:59Speaker 2: like were in Dad's business, but then also would buy
- 7:02Speaker 2: cheap houses around the area that we lived, which probably
- 7:05Speaker 2: cost you know, five cents in the scheme of things now,
- 7:09Speaker 2: but then they were absolute dumps and they would renovate
- 7:11Speaker 2: them and flip them for either like an investment property
- 7:15Speaker 2: or then sell it. And so I think watching them
- 7:17Speaker 2: do that for years was kind of like, oh, there's
- 7:20Speaker 2: money in this, Like property is worth money or it
- 7:23Speaker 2: can be, you know, if you're by the risings.
- 7:25Speaker 3: And that's epic work ethic as well, just the idea
- 7:28Speaker 3: that your parents were doing that as well as you know,
- 7:31Speaker 3: your mum working in like adjacent to healthcare and you're
- 7:34Speaker 3: done having his own business. Like a lot of people
- 7:36Speaker 3: would be like, sorry, we don't have time, but just
- 7:38Speaker 3: what on the weekends they were doing up properties? Yeah, okay,
- 7:42Speaker 3: mom and dad, I can see that the apple hasn't
- 7:44Speaker 3: fallen that far from the tree.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Yeah, And so yeah, I was at work and then
- 7:49Speaker 2: I would come home for my supermarket job and help
- 7:51Speaker 2: out with their renovations and just odd jobs like mow
- 7:55Speaker 2: the lawn and that kind of thing. While they were busy,
- 7:57Speaker 2: they wouldn't get time to do so I felt like
- 7:59Speaker 2: I was busy. And then I think it was when
- 8:04Speaker 2: I went into later years of high school, everyone was like,
- 8:06Speaker 2: you have to pick a UNI degree. And I was like, oh,
- 8:09Speaker 2: that doesn't really sound exciting. And I spoke to a
- 8:12Speaker 2: few people about it and they're like, oh, you know,
- 8:14Speaker 2: don't rush the decision. But I think that pressure from
- 8:17Speaker 2: school was always like you have to have something lined up.
- 8:20Speaker 2: And I know the school I went to was very
- 8:22Speaker 2: big on like their success rates I suppose you'd say,
- 8:25Speaker 2: and they wanted to say like X amount of students
- 8:27Speaker 2: you know, from the year before went to UNI and
- 8:29Speaker 2: now they have jobs or whatever. And I was like,
- 8:31Speaker 2: but I don't want to become a poor UNI student.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I just want to work. And they're like, no, no,
- 8:35Speaker 2: you have to pick something. Even if you take a
- 8:37Speaker 2: gap year you can defer it. And I was like, oh, okay,
- 8:39Speaker 2: this isn't my jam. Mom and dad like I didn't
- 8:42Speaker 2: want to go decided that. I was like, I'm just
- 8:44Speaker 2: not that smart. I do not want to be at UNI.
- 8:46Speaker 2: I don't have the motivation to do things that I
- 8:49Speaker 2: don't want to do.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Oh yeah, neither like if I don't want to do it,
- 8:52Speaker 3: we're out.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was like, oh, I don't know how
- 8:54Speaker 2: peel about this. And then I met someone who had
- 8:57Speaker 2: done nursing through tape, so it was like the next level.
- 9:00Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, okay, maybe that might be
- 9:01Speaker 2: an option, and she said like, it's really hands on,
- 9:04Speaker 2: and at that point they were very big on having
- 9:07Speaker 2: your attendance in class, which I thought, that's what I
- 9:09Speaker 2: need to do. If I'm not sitting in the classroom,
- 9:11Speaker 2: I won't log on.
- 9:12Speaker 3: I'm not going to do the homework. Can't need you
- 9:15Speaker 3: to actually sit me down and be like this is
- 9:17Speaker 3: the answer.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, if they say classes
- 9:22Speaker 2: between this time and that time, I'll be there. And
- 9:24Speaker 2: if they say log on from home, I'll be like, nah,
- 9:26Speaker 2: I'll just clean the house, or I'll.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Just do something else yeah, or I'll just go to work.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Yes. I think that structure was very good for me
- 9:33Speaker 2: and like how I went around it. So yeah, I
- 9:36Speaker 2: started nursing at TAFE and then for my first placement
- 9:39Speaker 2: was able to get a job as a personal care
- 9:42Speaker 2: assistant in age care. So I started doing shift work
- 9:45Speaker 2: and sort of learned that oh, okay, I don't really
- 9:47Speaker 2: want to do shift work forever, but there is money
- 9:49Speaker 2: to be made in this. So then I became a
- 9:51Speaker 2: nurse once I'd finished my deployment a conic and then
- 9:56Speaker 2: wanted to get a hospital job and sort of step
- 9:59Speaker 2: out of age care. Though everyone was like, oh, you've
- 10:01Speaker 2: got to have experience, and I was like, well, how
- 10:03Speaker 2: am I going to get experience if no one will
- 10:04Speaker 2: give me experience?
- 10:06Speaker 3: It's like a catch twenty two. It's such a joke
- 10:08Speaker 3: looking back on it. They're like, we want you to
- 10:10Speaker 3: have experience, and I'm like, where was I meant to
- 10:12Speaker 3: get this experience when I just graduated?
- 10:15Speaker 2: Literally yes, and so Dad sort of said, oh, perhaps
- 10:18Speaker 2: you need to move away and like widen your search
- 10:21Speaker 2: online to see what's out there, and I was like okay.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Ended up moving to Melbourne, which at the time I
- 10:27Speaker 2: was like, well, yuck, I do not want to live
- 10:29Speaker 2: in Melbourne, coming from rural Victoria very different.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Well as a Tasmanian, I get it.
- 10:34Speaker 2: But yeah, moved to Melbourne. Worked there for about seven
- 10:39Speaker 2: months I think, but that was like purely COVID times.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Couldn't leave the house.
- 10:44Speaker 3: That's been rough as well.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Yeah, and so my partner we were still together throughout that,
- 10:49Speaker 2: but because of the whole COVID thing, he couldn't come
- 10:51Speaker 2: to Melbourne to visit me, and I couldn't leave to
- 10:53Speaker 2: visit him, and I was like, this sucks. I'm out.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So I moved to Regional Victoria, to an area which
- 11:00Speaker 2: was near him but still totally new to me, and
- 11:03Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell, let's just do it.
- 11:05Speaker 2: So I moved there, which was about forty five minutes
- 11:07Speaker 2: away from where he was living, rented for a little while,
- 11:10Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this sucks, Like why am
- 11:12Speaker 2: I renting? This doesn't make sense. I could be putting
- 11:14Speaker 2: this money towards my own mortgage. So started working out
- 11:20Speaker 2: some figures and thought, I actually really liked this area.
- 11:22Speaker 2: I think I'll buy a house. So purchased a heap.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Okay, but how do you just decide to buy a
- 11:27Speaker 3: house because like that's pretty big.
- 11:29Speaker 2: It was pretty big, and I had been saving for
- 11:31Speaker 2: a long time with that goal in mind. But then
- 11:34Speaker 2: when I moved to Melbourne, I thought, oh, this is
- 11:36Speaker 2: like years of this is out the window. Yeakay, And
- 11:39Speaker 2: so then I think when I moved back to like
- 11:41Speaker 2: out of Melbourne, I was like, oh, okay, maybe this
- 11:43Speaker 2: isn't like more achievable.
- 11:44Speaker 3: So when were just budding in there because I'm just
- 11:46Speaker 3: so pervy, I'm so sorry, my brain is going a
- 11:48Speaker 3: million miles an hour when you got your first job
- 11:52Speaker 3: and you're working in the supermarket. Was a lot of
- 11:54Speaker 3: that money being saved and put aside for a future house.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Some of it was for a house and some of
- 11:59Speaker 2: it was for a car. I did buy my first
- 12:02Speaker 2: car like myself. And then I had put aside money
- 12:08Speaker 2: as well for study because mom and dad had said,
- 12:10Speaker 2: if you want to study, like that's fair enough, but
- 12:12Speaker 2: we can't afford to help you do all of that.
- 12:14Speaker 2: It'll help you, but you need to save some money.
- 12:17Speaker 2: And it was just coincidence that I'd signed up to
- 12:20Speaker 2: be at TAFE doing my nursing and about three months
- 12:24Speaker 2: before i'd started, the government announced, oh my god, we
- 12:26Speaker 2: need all these nurses. It's COVID.
- 12:28Speaker 3: Well that's such a money.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Yeah. So the tape course then became I don't think
- 12:32Speaker 2: it was completely free from memory, but it was up
- 12:34Speaker 2: to dynific discounted. Yeah. Yeah, so ah, well that's great
- 12:40Speaker 2: because I was going to do this anyway, and I
- 12:41Speaker 2: had all this money put aside for that, but then
- 12:45Speaker 2: decided that I didn't need it for that, so one
- 12:48Speaker 2: of my yeah, put it towards something else. So definitely
- 12:51Speaker 2: then became a house saving.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Yeah okay, okay. I was like, where is this coming from?
- 12:56Speaker 3: Like I need to do the maths because the maths
- 12:58Speaker 3: isn't math thing and and you said before not good
- 13:01Speaker 3: at maths, and I was like, I think you might
- 13:03Speaker 3: be because money and maths aren't different things, aren't they.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Yeah. So then bought my house and I think once
- 13:11Speaker 2: everything had started, and I was like, oh my god,
- 13:14Speaker 2: this is massive for someone so young, like I'm in
- 13:17Speaker 2: so much debt, but it was almost like a drive
- 13:19Speaker 2: in me to go, no, I want to pay this off. Yeah, well,
- 13:22Speaker 2: like start paying it off, you know, I see the changes.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Every time and actually see it go down instead of
- 13:27Speaker 3: just sitting on it and feeling like you're paying interest only,
- 13:29Speaker 3: which you know a lot of people listening to this
- 13:32Speaker 3: are going to be like Victoria. In this economy, all
- 13:34Speaker 3: I can do is afford to pay interest only, which
- 13:38Speaker 3: again relatable, but we'll get to it later in the
- 13:40Speaker 3: show about how much you spent and what it looked
- 13:42Speaker 3: like and all of the numbers because we want to know.
- 13:45Speaker 3: But like, regional is so different to buying in Melbourne,
- 13:50Speaker 3: Like in Melbourne and in Sydney, Like I don't think
- 13:53Speaker 3: you've got much change for seven Biggers anymore. It's just sadly,
- 13:58Speaker 3: so out of rich.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's so sad for everyone because
- 14:02Speaker 2: they probably won't get that opportunity until later on or
- 14:05Speaker 2: without from someone else because it's so tricky.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Yeah, or we need to like create another strategy which
- 14:11Speaker 3: feels so far removed from what you thought your reality
- 14:14Speaker 3: would be. Like we talk all the time, as you know,
- 14:17Speaker 3: like I work in mortgage barking as well, but I'm
- 14:19Speaker 3: always talking to clients and people about, you know, maybe
- 14:22Speaker 3: we could bye regionally and then they're like, no, no, no,
- 14:24Speaker 3: I don't want to live regionally. I'm like, yes, but
- 14:26Speaker 3: we need some stepping stones here, Like you're not going
- 14:29Speaker 3: to go straight into your dream property, Like we might
- 14:32Speaker 3: have to rinse and repeat three times before we get
- 14:35Speaker 3: that dream property. Absolutely, at least there's a strategy. And
- 14:38Speaker 3: it's just a bit disappointing because like I door my dad,
- 14:42Speaker 3: but he bought his first home at like twenty one
- 14:45Speaker 3: and it was basically a dream home.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Like what do you mean?
- 14:49Speaker 3: He just bought a full bedroom house basically in the
- 14:53Speaker 3: main city of where he lived, rented the rooms out
- 14:55Speaker 3: to his mates, covered his mortgage. Wham bam, thank you, ma'am.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Must be nice, must.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Be nice, yes, saying there is it, but yeah, I
- 15:05Speaker 2: started paying down that mortgage, and I think seeing the
- 15:08Speaker 2: numbers change was like almost that next goal to be like, yep,
- 15:11Speaker 2: I can do this. And then decided that I wanted
- 15:14Speaker 2: to work smarter and not harder, and that I felt
- 15:16Speaker 2: like I was working quite a lot as a nurse
- 15:18Speaker 2: and then obviously doing shift work, and I was like, oh,
- 15:20Speaker 2: this sucks. So I decided to go to UNI and
- 15:26Speaker 2: become a registered nurse study my bachelor. So I did that,
- 15:29Speaker 2: which was tricky to say. The leadst to it a
- 15:32Speaker 2: lot of night shifts to fit in around my union schedule,
- 15:36Speaker 2: which sucked, but that was the only way that I
- 15:38Speaker 2: could fit it in around UNI and work and just
- 15:42Speaker 2: trying to fit everything in and somehow I have a
- 15:44Speaker 2: social life. I honestly don't know how I did that.
- 15:46Speaker 3: I look back on my UNI time and I'm like,
- 15:48Speaker 3: I don't know how she did it. I actually don't,
- 15:50Speaker 3: like I could not keep up with past me.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think placements were really tricky in them
- 15:57Speaker 2: obviously we're not getting paid. So there was a few
- 15:59Speaker 2: weeks so the year, like at different stages where I
- 16:03Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to earn nothing, so I really
- 16:05Speaker 2: need to work hard to put money aside so that
- 16:07Speaker 2: I can still pay my mortgage. So there was a
- 16:10Speaker 2: time where I was paying a little bit extra but
- 16:13Speaker 2: not as much as what I had wanted. But once
- 16:15Speaker 2: UNI finished, then sort of thought, Okay, well this is good.
- 16:19Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of extra money now mhm,
- 16:22Speaker 2: and then thought, oh god, now I've got this hex stet.
- 16:25Speaker 2: So I felt like there was constantly this clout over
- 16:27Speaker 2: me of debt. I suppose you'd say, which, in the
- 16:30Speaker 2: scheme of things, is probably nothing, but just yeah.
- 16:33Speaker 3: But it also feels that way, doesn't it. And it's
- 16:36Speaker 3: kind of the way that it's positioned to you as well,
- 16:39Speaker 3: Because nowadays hextet doesn't scare me. I still have a
- 16:43Speaker 3: lot of hexstet, and I don't personally prioritize paying it
- 16:46Speaker 3: back because I'm like, well, i'd prefer the money to
- 16:48Speaker 3: come off my mortgage or going to an investment portfolio,
- 16:50Speaker 3: like I've just got stuff to do, right, But back then,
- 16:53Speaker 3: because I just didn't know, anytime anyone mentioned it, I
- 16:56Speaker 3: kind of felt sick.
- 16:57Speaker 2: And I was like Oh my god. Yeah, that's right.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Oh, that's going to be so rippling later, like, oh,
- 17:01Speaker 3: there was this like overwhelming sense of anxiety. Don't get
- 17:04Speaker 3: me wrong. You've paid your heals off, pop off, queen.
- 17:06Speaker 2: I love that.
- 17:07Speaker 3: But I think that with education comes knowledge that it's
- 17:10Speaker 3: actually not a bad thing to be carrying.
- 17:13Speaker 2: And I think that was definitely something that I probably
- 17:15Speaker 2: didn't understand when I started paying more onto it, because
- 17:18Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I didn't actually know that this
- 17:20Speaker 2: was like good down. I suppose in this it doesn't
- 17:23Speaker 2: affect you down the track.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Not in the same way as a mortgage like and
- 17:27Speaker 3: I think that that's sexy. But at the same time,
- 17:30Speaker 3: if you're in the privileged position to prioritize it and
- 17:32Speaker 3: get rid of that debt, like okay, love that for us.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Yeah. So I probably cut back on my mortgage payments
- 17:40Speaker 2: to put extra money towards my hex step and then
- 17:43Speaker 2: paid that off. And after I had just not long
- 17:45Speaker 2: paid it off, there was a few changes with indexation
- 17:48Speaker 2: and that kind of thing until I'm actually waiting for
- 17:51Speaker 2: a refund. Yeah, it's in credit moment, so I'm very
- 17:56Speaker 2: much looking.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Forward to that. Oh I got that too, and I
- 17:58Speaker 3: was like, I'm so glad that I didn't prioritize paying
- 18:01Speaker 3: that off because I got a lot more back than
- 18:03Speaker 3: what I would have if I had prioritized it.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah, I suppose at the moment just sailing
- 18:11Speaker 2: through life still nursing. Ideally I would want to get
- 18:14Speaker 2: out of a shift work nursing like in the next
- 18:19Speaker 2: five years. Just yeah, gotless to sort of have a
- 18:22Speaker 2: family and be able to prioritize that and not have
- 18:25Speaker 2: to work shift work. I'm happy to do it for
- 18:27Speaker 2: the moment, but I think down the track, I don't
- 18:29Speaker 2: really want to do it forever.
- 18:30Speaker 3: It's very tonally, totally exactly, and I mean it depends
- 18:35Speaker 3: on the type of lifestyle you want to have. But
- 18:37Speaker 3: a lot of you know, people in our community who
- 18:39Speaker 3: are doing shift work and don't have kids are like,
- 18:41Speaker 3: I don't know how this would be sustainable if I
- 18:43Speaker 3: did have kids. Don't get me wrong, you're probably making
- 18:47Speaker 3: extra bank right now by you know, doing that, And
- 18:51Speaker 3: I mean, I'm grateful that there are people that get
- 18:53Speaker 3: to benefit from hanging out with you overnight, but I
- 18:57Speaker 3: don't know if that's a forever thing. You mentioned a
- 19:00Speaker 3: boyfriend before. Do we still have the same boyfriend.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Boyfriend, Yes, oh my god, so cute.
- 19:05Speaker 3: Yes, are you from the same small town?
- 19:08Speaker 2: No? Actually we were a this in the relationship.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Me too, me too.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Yeah, So I widened my search to find him on
- 19:15Speaker 2: Tinder and I was like, oh, I don't know about this,
- 19:17Speaker 2: you know, I never met him, but yeah, met him
- 19:20Speaker 2: and we just hit it off like a house on fire.
- 19:23Speaker 2: He's a so we can just yeah for hours.
- 19:26Speaker 3: And how long have you been together?
- 19:28Speaker 2: Now? About five and a half years.
- 19:30Speaker 3: That's so cute. Do you find complete side note that
- 19:34Speaker 3: I think a lot of our single friends are going
- 19:35Speaker 3: to relate to. I've got a number of girlfriends who
- 19:38Speaker 3: are single at the moment, and I keep being like, well,
- 19:40Speaker 3: I met my husband on Tinder, like it can't be
- 19:42Speaker 3: that bad, and then they tell me the stories how
- 19:45Speaker 3: basically it's the dregs of the internet. Now I feel like,
- 19:48Speaker 3: go back five years, it wasn't that bad, yees today
- 19:51Speaker 3: it's definitely.
- 19:53Speaker 2: It was definitely it's what it is now.
- 19:56Speaker 3: No, Like I think I would just decide right settling down,
- 20:01Speaker 3: we're done here, because like, there was no way I
- 20:03Speaker 3: was going to meet someone at a bar, because that
- 20:05Speaker 3: was not going to bars bag, like I was hanging
- 20:07Speaker 3: out at home doing financial advice. Real cool, Victoria, Real cool.
- 20:13Speaker 3: So have you guys moved in together now? Like, what
- 20:15Speaker 3: does the life situation look like?
- 20:17Speaker 2: So we live separately. He's bought his own house, probably
- 20:22Speaker 2: about a year before I bought mine, so he's got
- 20:25Speaker 2: his mortgage. I've got my mortgage. All our finances are
- 20:28Speaker 2: still separate. Yep. I have in the last few months
- 20:32Speaker 2: got a job in the hospital of the town where
- 20:34Speaker 2: he lives. So eventually we would like to move in
- 20:37Speaker 2: together and potentially rent one out or something like that.
- 20:42Speaker 3: So you're setting yourselves up really nicely.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Yeah, at that stage we would then talk about family
- 20:47Speaker 2: and next house and goals and that kind of thing.
- 20:49Speaker 2: But it's sort of a bit up in the air
- 20:51Speaker 2: at the moment.
- 20:52Speaker 3: And have you guys been talking about that kind of
- 20:55Speaker 3: stuff before? Like is this so?
- 20:57Speaker 2: Like?
- 20:57Speaker 3: Because five years is from my perspective, five years feels
- 21:00Speaker 3: like a really long period of time to be together
- 21:03Speaker 3: and not live together. Has that been a conscious decision?
- 21:07Speaker 2: I think we are very independent people, but I also
- 21:10Speaker 2: think being it's probably lack a regional and rural thing
- 21:14Speaker 2: as well. Like we were first together when I was
- 21:17Speaker 2: living at Mum and dads and so we lived about
- 21:19Speaker 2: an hour and a half apart. So I think the
- 21:21Speaker 2: distance has always been between us. And then when I
- 21:24Speaker 2: moved to Melbourne, I sort of thought, oh, this can
- 21:27Speaker 2: be made or break. Like, you know, he might walk away,
- 21:30Speaker 2: he might just say, oh, she's going to move to
- 21:32Speaker 2: Melbourne whatever, and he at that stage had no intention
- 21:35Speaker 2: of moving with me. So I was like, well, we're
- 21:37Speaker 2: fresh into this relationship. It's either going to work or
- 21:39Speaker 2: it's not. I'm doing me, you're doing you. Whatever happens happened.
- 21:43Speaker 3: And I mean that's kind of fair because at the
- 21:45Speaker 3: start it's like we might be in love. But also
- 21:48Speaker 3: I don't want to compromise my dreams. And I actually, yeah,
- 21:51Speaker 3: that's really healthy. Yeah, Like I know that some people
- 21:53Speaker 3: will be like, oh my god, heartbreaking, but like prioritize you, babe, Yeah,
- 21:58Speaker 3: put you first. And if you can put you first,
- 22:00Speaker 3: somebody else will see that you're doing that and want
- 22:02Speaker 3: to do that for you too.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Yes, And he was very supportive. He was like, absolutely,
- 22:06Speaker 2: go do what you need to do and then once
- 22:08Speaker 2: you've got that experience, come back and you know, we'll
- 22:10Speaker 2: go from there. But I sort of thought, oh, I
- 22:13Speaker 2: don't know, this is too good to be thrue. But
- 22:17Speaker 2: we did end up seeing it through, and I think
- 22:19Speaker 2: like it was hard and COVID was terrible, but I
- 22:22Speaker 2: think just putting everything into perspective, like at the end
- 22:25Speaker 2: of the day where a couple of hours apart, some
- 22:27Speaker 2: people were across the other side of the world and
- 22:29Speaker 2: couldn't see their family. So in the scheme of things,
- 22:32Speaker 2: it really wasn't that bad.
- 22:33Speaker 3: It's not that deep.
- 22:34Speaker 2: But yeah, I just think it was made to last,
- 22:38Speaker 2: and so it did.
- 22:39Speaker 3: That's so good. I just love love, and I love
- 22:42Speaker 3: asking people about love, but I also love asking people
- 22:45Speaker 3: about money. So we know that you're a registered nurse.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Now how much money do you own? You're doing some
- 22:50Speaker 3: night shift, so I feel like it'll be good.
- 22:53Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's a bit all over the place. So
- 22:55Speaker 2: I still do all the shifts. While I was through UNI,
- 22:58Speaker 2: I was doing mainly nights. Now it's just a bit
- 23:00Speaker 2: of everything, and I also have a couple of casual
- 23:03Speaker 2: gigs that I do as well. Black still just here
- 23:07Speaker 2: and there, just because you know, I haven't got enough
- 23:08Speaker 2: on my plate.
- 23:09Speaker 3: That's so good, though. How are you finding the balance
- 23:12Speaker 3: between you know, having a full time job, doing some
- 23:15Speaker 3: night shift and then some casual gigs and maintaining a
- 23:18Speaker 3: long distance I'm going to call it long distance relationship.
- 23:21Speaker 2: I mean, it is tricky. My partner doesn't work shift,
- 23:24Speaker 2: so I think that's probably a bonus. I think if
- 23:27Speaker 2: we were both doing shifts, that would make things very complicated.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, you'd be shifts in the night.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Yeah. He has always made comments about the fact that
- 23:38Speaker 2: I love you, but if you've just come off a
- 23:40Speaker 2: night shift, don't come here because you're a messy.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Home, okaking, no worries. I want the whole man to
- 23:47Speaker 3: myself anyway.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think he's been very understanding of all
- 23:53Speaker 2: of that. But at the same time, here's a gem.
- 23:56Speaker 2: If I'm a night shift, he'll cook food, he'll do
- 23:58Speaker 2: whatever to help out. But I think also being very
- 24:02Speaker 2: independent people means that we can survive, you know, a
- 24:05Speaker 2: few days without seeing each other. It is what it
- 24:06Speaker 2: is because we used to do that all the time.
- 24:09Speaker 2: So if I'm on shift, it's kind of yeah. But
- 24:11Speaker 2: I think now, even though we're still technically long distance,
- 24:15Speaker 2: it's really not. It's like, forty five minutes down the road.
- 24:17Speaker 3: We're still separate, right, that's yeah.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Like we're still separate, but in the scheme of things,
- 24:22Speaker 2: it's actually the closest that we've ever been because it
- 24:24Speaker 2: used to be like an hour and a half or
- 24:26Speaker 2: two three hours away. So it's kind of good. We
- 24:28Speaker 2: actually see each other more now than what we did before. Yeah,
- 24:31Speaker 2: that's airy, which is definitely a good way to look
- 24:33Speaker 2: at it. And then we think, oh, like we haven't
- 24:35Speaker 2: seen each other in a week or whatever. But I
- 24:37Speaker 2: think it makes our time together more valuable and we
- 24:40Speaker 2: value it more because there's less of it if we
- 24:43Speaker 2: don't take it for grant to.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're already own home, you've got a mortgage,
- 24:46Speaker 3: you're only twenty five, like, you've paid off your hex,
- 24:49Speaker 3: you're on your car. What are your big money goals?
- 24:52Speaker 3: What are you currently working towards?
- 24:53Speaker 2: So I think not necessarily like full steam ahead for
- 24:57Speaker 2: this one work compared to my other ones, but definitely
- 25:00Speaker 2: in the next like three four five years, potentially start
- 25:03Speaker 2: a family, move in with my partner. Could you get
- 25:06Speaker 2: a house together. I don't know whether it looks like
- 25:09Speaker 2: whether we sell boats and buy one or keep both
- 25:12Speaker 2: on new equity or whatever, but yeah, see whether see
- 25:15Speaker 2: where the stars take us.
- 25:16Speaker 3: I suppose that's really exciting.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Yeah, we got several options, which is good.
- 25:20Speaker 3: So when you say you want to start a family,
- 25:23Speaker 3: what does that look like financially? Do you think, like,
- 25:26Speaker 3: obviously move in together, but do you think you'll cut
- 25:28Speaker 3: back on work at that point? Do you think he will?
- 25:32Speaker 3: Like have you thought about the plan there? Because I
- 25:34Speaker 3: feel like, you know, I always used to say, yeah,
- 25:37Speaker 3: I'd love babies one day, I'd love babies one day,
- 25:38Speaker 3: and I hadn't really thought about the semantics of it.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Now and now I'm juggling it. I'm like, oh, like,
- 25:43Speaker 3: I don't regret any of this, but it's a lot
- 25:46Speaker 3: more than I thought it would be.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I work in public like Victorian public health,
- 25:51Speaker 2: and I think one of the bonuses I suppose you'd
- 25:54Speaker 2: say is that if you do change jobs from Victorian
- 25:57Speaker 2: to Victorian, your long service leave and that kind of
- 26:00Speaker 2: thing travels with you, oh very much. And so I
- 26:02Speaker 2: think because I've since working at Melbourne, I have always
- 26:05Speaker 2: been in public health. I have actually got at the
- 26:08Speaker 2: end of this year long service leave to my name.
- 26:11Speaker 3: Oh good, and you're only in twenty five stock that's
- 26:14Speaker 3: gonna be iconic.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very excited. So I think even if we
- 26:19Speaker 2: were to use like a couple of days a week
- 26:21Speaker 2: or something like that, it would be more doable, like
- 26:25Speaker 2: after my leave.
- 26:26Speaker 3: In terms of juggling everything and just having that flexibility
- 26:29Speaker 3: of choice. Yeah, like so many people don't. They might
- 26:31Speaker 3: just have their matte leave and when bam, thank you ma'am.
- 26:34Speaker 3: You have to go back to work because money is hard, yeah,
- 26:37Speaker 3: but just having that in your back pocket and going
- 26:39Speaker 3: all right, well I could go back part time but
- 26:42Speaker 3: still get more pay Like, oh, that flexibility is so sexy.
- 26:45Speaker 3: I love this for you.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Yes, I've always been told work smarter, not harder, and
- 26:49Speaker 2: so that's always been something.
- 26:51Speaker 3: But you really did it, Like so many of us
- 26:53Speaker 3: say works smarter, not harder, but we don't actually know
- 26:56Speaker 3: how to do that, Like it just doesn't feel like
- 26:59Speaker 3: the reality. All right, let's go to a really quick
- 27:01Speaker 3: break because I cannot wait to ask you how much
- 27:04Speaker 3: you spent on your house. I just need to know.
- 27:06Speaker 3: I also want to talk about your investing journey, because
- 27:09Speaker 3: you only started that in November last year, and then
- 27:11Speaker 3: we got to talk about personal insurance and your best
- 27:13Speaker 3: and worst money habits. So guys don't go anywhere money Diarist,
- 27:20Speaker 3: We are back and you're like so young, but such
- 27:24Speaker 3: a weapon? How did this come to fruition?
- 27:28Speaker 2: Like?
- 27:29Speaker 3: How do you just get good at money? Is it
- 27:31Speaker 3: the work ethic that your parents instilled in you? Was
- 27:34Speaker 3: it like you know, a structure? Was there just nothing
- 27:37Speaker 3: to spend on in a small rural town, Like tell
- 27:40Speaker 3: me how you get good at money? As somebody who
- 27:43Speaker 3: also I would say, I had the same work ethic
- 27:46Speaker 3: and I still do. Like I am a workaholic. When
- 27:49Speaker 3: I was young, fourteen years nine months march down, got
- 27:52Speaker 3: my first job at the ice cream shop, have worked
- 27:55Speaker 3: ridiculous hours through UNI. But you know what I did,
- 27:58Speaker 3: I spent all that money. And so where did we differ?
- 28:02Speaker 3: How did you get the work ethic from your parents
- 28:05Speaker 3: in the same way I did, But yours was more productive.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Mom and Dad definitely worked hard and that was something
- 28:11Speaker 2: that I always looked up to. And I think something
- 28:14Speaker 2: that Dad used to say to me was that we're comfortable.
- 28:17Speaker 2: We're not rich, but we've made decisions along the way
- 28:21Speaker 2: that have put us in a better position.
- 28:23Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like something a rich person would say.
- 28:26Speaker 2: My partner always says Oh, your parents are loaded, And
- 28:28Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I don't think they are, but they've
- 28:31Speaker 2: just sacrificed quite a lot through the years in order
- 28:34Speaker 2: to get where they are. And I think that shows I.
- 28:37Speaker 3: Do kid, But also how cool like the idea that
- 28:41Speaker 3: your parents are financially secure. This is going to sound
- 28:44Speaker 3: like a big one, but I think a lot of
- 28:45Speaker 3: people will relate to it. Just what a weight off
- 28:49Speaker 3: your shoulders to know, Okay, that's never going to be
- 28:51Speaker 3: something that I need to stress about.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's always been something that I've
- 28:58Speaker 2: looked up to about work hard and save your money
- 29:01Speaker 2: but also make it work for you, and you know,
- 29:05Speaker 2: just odd things like that you would do along the
- 29:08Speaker 2: way that you wouldn't even think of, that making one
- 29:11Speaker 2: decision one way can change something so drastically. And yeah,
- 29:16Speaker 2: something that they've always said to me was that you
- 29:19Speaker 2: don't have to have a lot of money to make
- 29:22Speaker 2: a lot of money. And I think that is true. Yeah,
- 29:25Speaker 2: And I think that was always something that stuck with
- 29:26Speaker 2: me in that just because you're working a supermarket job
- 29:30Speaker 2: when you're sixteen, like if you spend eighty percent of
- 29:34Speaker 2: your wage, or if you're a lawyer who owns however
- 29:37Speaker 2: much per week and you still spend eighty percent of
- 29:39Speaker 2: your wage, it's gone. That's you know, if you're saving
- 29:43Speaker 2: five dollars or five hundred dollars, you're still saving.
- 29:46Speaker 3: That's that's truly, Yeah, my entire purpose in life. I
- 29:50Speaker 3: think so many times we are harsh on ourselves or
- 29:54Speaker 3: we you know, think this isn't going to be possible
- 29:56Speaker 3: purely because you're like, well, surely, because I've got this job,
- 29:59Speaker 3: it's not going to work out for me. But it's
- 30:01Speaker 3: actually about what you can save, not what you can earn.
- 30:04Speaker 3: And it's those you know, underlying principles of being consistent
- 30:09Speaker 3: because you know, somebody working and I'm just going to
- 30:11Speaker 3: use this example because you said you worked in a supermarket,
- 30:13Speaker 3: But somebody working in a supermarket hustling their butt off
- 30:17Speaker 3: and finding a way to you know, save two hundred
- 30:20Speaker 3: bucks a week, which I'm not saying everyone can do,
- 30:23Speaker 3: but is completely possible in those situations. You know, don't
- 30:27Speaker 3: get me wrong. You might have kids and that might
- 30:28Speaker 3: not be the reality, but for a lot of people
- 30:31Speaker 3: in that situation, two hundred bucks invested every single week, go,
- 30:35Speaker 3: You're going to be rich, like It's about the consistency.
- 30:38Speaker 3: It's not about going all right, well, how can I
- 30:40Speaker 3: get a higher paying job? And how many times? And
- 30:42Speaker 3: I mean you've probably seen it, but never experienced this.
- 30:46Speaker 3: I've experienced this where I keep telling myself, when I
- 30:48Speaker 3: earn more, I will be able to and that's just
- 30:52Speaker 3: not the reality of the situation. It's when I learn
- 30:55Speaker 3: how to manage my money, I will be able to
- 30:58Speaker 3: invest more. But until then, more money actually equals more problems.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. And I think that was something that was
- 31:05Speaker 2: always explained to me that just because your own more
- 31:08Speaker 2: doesn't mean you make more and that's all like that
- 31:10Speaker 2: you take home more because there's things like more tax
- 31:12Speaker 2: and then what are more sin Yeah, and so I
- 31:15Speaker 2: think that that kind of stuff has stuck with me.
- 31:17Speaker 2: But someone who wasn't very good at maths years and
- 31:19Speaker 2: years ago, I think those kind of things stuck with
- 31:23Speaker 2: me because I was like, well, even if I can
- 31:26Speaker 2: say five dollars here or fifty dollars there, that's still something.
- 31:30Speaker 3: Yeah, No, totally, And I'm adoring this mindset. And that's
- 31:34Speaker 3: why I keep asking like more and more about it,
- 31:36Speaker 3: because so often people will say, well, you know, it's
- 31:41Speaker 3: only fifty dollars. It's not worth it. But in your
- 31:44Speaker 3: diary in you said, Victoria, it's about the little things
- 31:48Speaker 3: that all add up. Like you're into like rewards programs
- 31:51Speaker 3: and points and stuff like that. How do you integrate
- 31:54Speaker 3: those into your life? Because I love a point in tack,
- 31:57Speaker 3: like my whole team do. What are your faate rits.
- 32:00Speaker 2: I'm definitely big on flybys. That's probably something that I
- 32:03Speaker 2: use a lot. Oh me too, and I am a
- 32:05Speaker 2: one pass member, so of course you know bonus points absolutely,
- 32:08Speaker 2: sorrying about it.
- 32:10Speaker 3: This isn't sponsored, but like you guys are sleeping on
- 32:13Speaker 3: one pass, Like if you use one pass, it like
- 32:16Speaker 3: five times is your points like for not much more?
- 32:21Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, bam, I've made that
- 32:24Speaker 3: into business class flights.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think those kind of things like I
- 32:28Speaker 2: would be going to kmart or to office works or
- 32:30Speaker 2: two calls or whatever. I would be spending money on
- 32:32Speaker 2: that kind of stuff anyway. So I'm like, well, if
- 32:34Speaker 2: I can earn points, then yeah, why not? And if
- 32:37Speaker 2: I can earn five times the points, bonus make it
- 32:39Speaker 2: make sense?
- 32:40Speaker 3: Like sorry, I actually asked someone very close to me
- 32:44Speaker 3: who happens to work out that company. I was like,
- 32:47Speaker 3: what the hell's going on here, because like it feels
- 32:49Speaker 3: like that's not good for business, Like surely giving us
- 32:52Speaker 3: that many points isn't good. And they said, yeah, look
- 32:55Speaker 3: it probably isn't, but it's a really good recruitment strategy.
- 32:58Speaker 3: And I said, right, well, I'm going to use that
- 33:00Speaker 3: until it's done, like until they feel like they've got
- 33:02Speaker 3: enough members. I'm going to get my triple points or
- 33:05Speaker 3: like quadruple points or whatever it is.
- 33:07Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think people always say, like, oh, that's
- 33:10Speaker 2: just how they track your spending, and I'm like, so what,
- 33:13Speaker 2: I'm many points?
- 33:13Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, see there's that like privacy point and I
- 33:19Speaker 3: fully get it. But let you are my information for points.
- 33:22Speaker 3: I will sell my soul.
- 33:23Speaker 2: If you're gonna like emails, I don't care.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Yeah that's fine, I'm gonna put them in the bin.
- 33:29Speaker 3: You want to track my spending? Ooh it's good, isn't it.
- 33:35Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not saying this the way that I shouldn't
- 33:36Speaker 3: have probably terrified some people looking money Darist. You said
- 33:40Speaker 3: that you'd also just started investing. Tell me a little
- 33:42Speaker 3: bit about that journey. Why did you start investing after
- 33:45Speaker 3: property being such, I guess a big part of your
- 33:49Speaker 3: strategy to begin with.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I was sort of in the
- 33:52Speaker 2: mindset of don't have all wer like eggs in one
- 33:56Speaker 2: basket type thing. So even though I was putting a
- 33:58Speaker 2: lot of money onto my mortgage, I sort of thought, Oh,
- 34:01Speaker 2: I don't know, like God forbid the house prices go
- 34:04Speaker 2: down or something. I don't want to lose a heap
- 34:07Speaker 2: of money. So I was sort of late, and then
- 34:10Speaker 2: started with Chasis through the shees on the money discount
- 34:14Speaker 2: code or whatever that was. Icon.
- 34:16Speaker 3: We're trying to create a cult here, and I think
- 34:18Speaker 3: it's work.
- 34:19Speaker 2: It's definitely, yes, Yes.
- 34:22Speaker 3: I've got to make it more culty though, like we're
- 34:25Speaker 3: not good at this. All we're doing is getting rich,
- 34:28Speaker 3: Like there has to be something negative, you know.
- 34:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, started with that. I think the promotion
- 34:34Speaker 2: was get ten dollars if you spend ten dollars or
- 34:36Speaker 2: something like that, so I thought, old, it's twenty bucks
- 34:38Speaker 2: for the hell, ten of it is in mine, so
- 34:41Speaker 2: if I lose it, I lose it. And I think
- 34:45Speaker 2: something that my grandparents used to always say was that
- 34:48Speaker 2: if you go out and buy a lotto ticket and
- 34:49Speaker 2: you're lose, it's gone, you know, like that's it. Your
- 34:53Speaker 2: money's gone, whereas with the share market, if it's gone down,
- 34:56Speaker 2: it's not gone completely. And so I thought, well, that
- 34:59Speaker 2: seems I actually crossed. You're not doing that, yeah, literally,
- 35:03Speaker 2: and like that is a lesson ticket.
- 35:06Speaker 3: That is a lesson that I have been trying to
- 35:08Speaker 3: teach for a very long time, and that is that
- 35:11Speaker 3: you know, if your portfolio goes down, you've actually not
- 35:14Speaker 3: lost anything. It's just what it is worth today if
- 35:17Speaker 3: you sold it, and if you had ten shares before,
- 35:20Speaker 3: you still have ten shares today. You actually haven't lost,
- 35:23Speaker 3: quote anything, They've just lost or dropped in value. And
- 35:26Speaker 3: that is so hard to explain to people because obviously
- 35:30Speaker 3: you feel like you're missing out. But it's nothing like gambling,
- 35:33Speaker 3: it's nothing like lotto. So you're telling me that your
- 35:36Speaker 3: parents had shares too.
- 35:37Speaker 2: They did. My grandparents did. They had shares from their
- 35:41Speaker 2: parents which they then inherited, which then my parents got.
- 35:44Speaker 3: Yep, so they're really rich.
- 35:46Speaker 2: I don't think mum and dad actually had shares until
- 35:49Speaker 2: they inherited it. But then after that, when they got
- 35:52Speaker 2: that later in life, we're like, oh god, why weren't
- 35:54Speaker 2: we doing this sooner and started putting a little bit
- 35:56Speaker 2: of money aside for that. Yeah.
- 35:58Speaker 3: And then they passed that knowledge onto you, which is
- 36:00Speaker 3: so cool.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Yeah. And my granddad was always like, oh, you know,
- 36:03Speaker 2: make sure you're investing and I was like, oh yeah, yeah, okay,
- 36:06Speaker 2: sure whatever. And then years after he passed away, I
- 36:09Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, he was onto something here.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Yeah, like this guy was actually smart.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, I started with the cheers He's app,
- 36:18Speaker 2: which I love a door and yeah, just a little
- 36:21Speaker 2: bit by little bit and sort of learned the ropes
- 36:24Speaker 2: and then yeah, made a little bit and lost a
- 36:26Speaker 2: little bit and that's all part of the learning curve.
- 36:28Speaker 2: But yeah, at the moment, I've got about one and
- 36:31Speaker 2: a half thousand invested. That's so good.
- 36:35Speaker 3: And you only started in November last year. Yes, yeah,
- 36:38Speaker 3: she's going to be a rich woman. Guys, I'm so excited.
- 36:42Speaker 3: Let's flip the scription and talk about debt. You don't
- 36:45Speaker 3: have any bad debt, You've only got good debt. Yes,
- 36:47Speaker 3: can we rewind yeah to prior to debt? How much
- 36:51Speaker 3: did you pay for your house? What did that cost?
- 36:54Speaker 2: And look like so in October twenty twenty one, I
- 36:58Speaker 2: bought my three through one bathroom unit for four forty.
- 37:04Speaker 3: Four forty for three bedrooms. That is a good deal.
- 37:07Speaker 2: And like on paper it's listed as a unit, but
- 37:10Speaker 2: I would say it's a rubble large unit. Yeah, it's
- 37:13Speaker 2: probably more.
- 37:14Speaker 3: Like a take it like standalone or is it like duplex?
- 37:17Speaker 2: There's two on the block, but they are two separate buildings.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Oh, how good. And how much land ish do you have?
- 37:25Speaker 2: Oh? I don't actually know.
- 37:27Speaker 3: I don't know if you've got a backyard or is
- 37:29Speaker 3: it just like.
- 37:29Speaker 2: There is a little bit of a backyard. Yeah. Nice,
- 37:32Speaker 2: both units have got a little backyard.
- 37:34Speaker 3: So cute. So four forty and what type of deposit
- 37:37Speaker 3: did you have?
- 37:37Speaker 2: I had ten percent at the time.
- 37:40Speaker 3: And so then did you pay LM I or did
- 37:42Speaker 3: you get a waiver?
- 37:43Speaker 2: We used the Victorian first Home super Savor scheme or
- 37:48Speaker 2: whatever it was called.
- 37:48Speaker 3: Yeah, the first Homenos grant.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a similar sort of one. I don't
- 37:52Speaker 2: think it was actually that one, but there was something
- 37:54Speaker 2: similar changed a bit twenty one. Yeah, but yeah, there
- 37:57Speaker 2: was something similar through the banks. So we're used to that.
- 38:00Speaker 2: And the government or you know, so called the government
- 38:03Speaker 2: had a percentage in my house, and I was like,
- 38:05Speaker 2: hang on, that doesn't sit right with me. If I
- 38:09Speaker 2: sell this tomorrow and make a million dollars, I mean hopefully,
- 38:12Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't want them to take a percentage
- 38:15Speaker 2: of that, because that obviously means that their percentage is
- 38:17Speaker 2: now high. So I was like, no, get stuff.
- 38:19Speaker 3: So I worked hard, honestly, fair, No, I get that's
- 38:23Speaker 3: actually my take at the movement.
- 38:26Speaker 2: So I worked hard to obviously put a little bit
- 38:28Speaker 2: more into that. And then since finishing, UNI really hustled
- 38:32Speaker 2: and like put aside extra money into an offset account
- 38:35Speaker 2: so that I could then pay out the government. I
- 38:38Speaker 2: suppose you'd say.
- 38:38Speaker 3: Yeah, so that got you in the day the bank.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And without that I probably wouldn't have got started.
- 38:44Speaker 3: Yeah, And like four point forty at the time probably
- 38:46Speaker 3: felt like, and don't get me wrong, it's an astronomical
- 38:49Speaker 3: amount of money, but probably felt like the most amount
- 38:51Speaker 3: of money you'd ever seen in your life, and that
- 38:53Speaker 3: was probably overwhelming. If you purchased that regionally in twenty
- 38:56Speaker 3: twenty one, I'm going to make a stab in the
- 38:59Speaker 3: dark and say it's probably increased in value significantly. What
- 39:01Speaker 3: is it worth now?
- 39:02Speaker 2: So I actually had it valued last week last week?
- 39:05Speaker 3: Oh, how perfect?
- 39:07Speaker 2: And so last week it was valued at five five
- 39:11Speaker 2: three Oh money win? How good?
- 39:14Speaker 3: And what have you got left on your mortgage?
- 39:16Speaker 2: I think there's about three thirty. I think for memory, Well,
- 39:20Speaker 2: that's nice. That feels comfortable.
- 39:22Speaker 3: I think that feels comfortable. Especially sorry, I think we're
- 39:25Speaker 3: also forgetting here. You are still at baby, you are
- 39:29Speaker 3: still a child. Yes, Oh how good. I'm so excited
- 39:33Speaker 3: for you. Is that something that feels really like natural?
- 39:37Speaker 3: Is it something that feels really overwhelming? Are you stressed
- 39:39Speaker 3: by your mortgage, like, especially with all the interest rate hikes?
- 39:43Speaker 3: I feel like it could be really stressful.
- 39:45Speaker 2: I think while I was at UNI that was definitely
- 39:48Speaker 2: very stressful because the interest rates only seem to go up,
- 39:52Speaker 2: and so my payments were going up and I was like,
- 39:53Speaker 2: oh my god, this is like yikes. But I think
- 39:57Speaker 2: because that was there was periods where I was earning
- 40:00Speaker 2: literally no money at all. But now that I've got
- 40:02Speaker 2: an income, and like a steady income every week because
- 40:05Speaker 2: I'm obviously not studying, yep, it's a lot more manageable.
- 40:09Speaker 2: And that I think because I have tried to pay
- 40:11Speaker 2: extra each pay if I'm able to, then it's always
- 40:15Speaker 2: like a little bit more reassuring that if the years
- 40:18Speaker 2: a week that I've been off sick or you know whatever,
- 40:20Speaker 2: that I haven't necessarily gotten paid. That is just that
- 40:23Speaker 2: option of just paying the minimum and I don't feel
- 40:26Speaker 2: like I'm behind.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Yeah, and what does that actually look like? So, like
- 40:30Speaker 3: what's your monthly mortgage or a payment?
- 40:32Speaker 2: So I think I usually pay it fortnightly and my
- 40:35Speaker 2: income can fluctuate depending on what shifts I do. The
- 40:38Speaker 2: required payments are about nine seventy I think for a
- 40:43Speaker 2: fortnight and I usually try and pay about thirteen hundred
- 40:46Speaker 2: if I can.
- 40:47Speaker 3: Oh, look at you go. So you're getting down that principle,
- 40:51Speaker 3: which is really really nice. That's honestly, that's what every
- 40:56Speaker 3: rent for regional Victoria, which by the way, has skyrocketed.
- 41:00Speaker 3: So like last time I checked the average regional rent
- 41:03Speaker 3: across Victoria with just over five hundred bucks a week. Yeah,
- 41:08Speaker 3: Like to me, that's astronomical, Like to me, I feel
- 41:10Speaker 3: like that's so rude, Like what do you mean five
- 41:14Speaker 3: hundred dollars a week to live regionally? That's not even
- 41:17Speaker 3: like Melbourne, that's not even that convenient to be honest.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, part of my evaluation last week was also
- 41:25Speaker 2: rental income and they said for eighty which I was like,
- 41:28Speaker 2: for a unit, Oh my god, like that's who's paying that?
- 41:31Speaker 2: But realistically that's probably really cheap.
- 41:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's relatively reasonably priced. But
- 41:38Speaker 3: I also just go to me, that's astronomical because our
- 41:43Speaker 3: incomes are not keeping up with the inflation in how
- 41:46Speaker 3: much rent is. Like, I just I have so much
- 41:48Speaker 3: to say on that topic, and we'll leave it there,
- 41:50Speaker 3: because you guys know that I would go on and
- 41:52Speaker 3: on and on about it. But that makes me feel
- 41:55Speaker 3: really good. And you said that you had purchased your
- 41:58Speaker 3: first car all by yourself, so you've never been in
- 42:00Speaker 3: car debt or any other type of debt. No, yeah,
- 42:03Speaker 3: and icon't.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Yes. And I did upgrade my first car when I
- 42:09Speaker 2: purchased my first car. And then when I found out
- 42:12Speaker 2: that Tafe was actually going to be discounted, I was like,
- 42:15Speaker 2: oh my god, but I've saved up all this money,
- 42:17Speaker 2: what do you mean? And I didn't want it to
- 42:19Speaker 2: just sit there and look pretty. I was saying, oh, well,
- 42:21Speaker 2: I want something to show for this. So I did
- 42:23Speaker 2: actually go on upgrade my car, which was still a
- 42:25Speaker 2: secondhand car, but by the time I got my license,
- 42:28Speaker 2: I was actually already onto my second car.
- 42:31Speaker 3: What does an upgraded car look like? Though? Are we talking?
- 42:35Speaker 3: You went from buying a second hand nineteen eighty eight
- 42:39Speaker 3: Corolla to a nineteen eighty nine or like, how much
- 42:42Speaker 3: will we spending on the car?
- 42:44Speaker 2: So my first car was a I want to say,
- 42:47Speaker 2: two thousand and five Ford Focus, like a little hatchback
- 42:51Speaker 2: yep sick car.
- 42:52Speaker 3: And then genuinely like, that's such a good little get around,
- 42:55Speaker 3: really economical on fuel, and I feel like Ford's a
- 42:58Speaker 3: cheap to like service maintain.
- 43:00Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I started with that, and it was
- 43:03Speaker 2: a manual, which hardly anyone back then was open to
- 43:07Speaker 2: driving a manual. So I was like, oh, I feel
- 43:09Speaker 2: like it's going to be really difficult to sell, but
- 43:11Speaker 2: I actually had no issue selling it. And then I
- 43:14Speaker 2: purchased a twenty thirteen Nissan Jules little suv, and so
- 43:22Speaker 2: I had that by the time I actually started driving,
- 43:25Speaker 2: like on my PA plates, that's what I was driving,
- 43:28Speaker 2: and then had a bit of a money win. Later
- 43:30Speaker 2: on in life, when I was living in Melbourne, my
- 43:34Speaker 2: nana was unwell and needed oxygen and things like that.
- 43:37Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't feel safe driving. I think
- 43:39Speaker 2: I'm going to hand in my license. And so I
- 43:41Speaker 2: was like, oh really, and she's like, yep, it's not
- 43:44Speaker 2: for me anymore. I just don't fill up to it.
- 43:45Speaker 2: Your granddad can drive me around. So she was selling
- 43:47Speaker 2: her car and so I actually purchased that off them
- 43:50Speaker 2: for the trade, which was really good. And because Nana
- 43:53Speaker 2: had only driven to you know, Bullies and back, so
- 43:56Speaker 2: it had hardly any kilometers.
- 43:57Speaker 3: I feel like old people and their cars, like as
- 43:59Speaker 3: my dad would say, it was a good get around.
- 44:01Speaker 3: It only went to church on Sundays.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Perfect.
- 44:04Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was a massive money win for me.
- 44:06Speaker 2: So that's what I'm driving currently. But yes, definitely a
- 44:10Speaker 2: money win for me. Yeah.
- 44:11Speaker 3: But also sorry, you worked your way up and you
- 44:14Speaker 3: only made smart money decisions when it came to cars,
- 44:16Speaker 3: Like so many people might have gone, oh my gosh,
- 44:19Speaker 3: I have all of this extra money, I'm just going
- 44:21Speaker 3: to blow it. Okay, that happens to the best of us. Now,
- 44:25Speaker 3: personal insurances. You've got a mortgage, you do have a
- 44:28Speaker 3: very hands on career. What have you done about your
- 44:31Speaker 3: personal insurances?
- 44:32Speaker 2: So I don't have personal insurance at the moment, but
- 44:34Speaker 2: it's in the winds. I contacted Disco Wealth and they are,
- 44:38Speaker 2: oh you did, I did. Yes.
- 44:40Speaker 3: The colt is getting cultier.
- 44:42Speaker 2: It is. It's very addictive. It's definitely in the winds
- 44:46Speaker 2: there finding me something at the moment. How good.
- 44:50Speaker 3: I know it sounds so funny or it sounds so
- 44:52Speaker 3: funny to me when I hear people use the brands
- 44:55Speaker 3: that I recommend and go, please go do this, But
- 44:59Speaker 3: it makes me feel so good because I just know
- 45:01Speaker 3: you're going to be safe. I'm just like, Okay, this queen,
- 45:04Speaker 3: if anything happens to her, she can message me and
- 45:06Speaker 3: be like they I'm all right. I'll be like, yes,
- 45:09Speaker 3: the best all right. Moving on from that, I want
- 45:12Speaker 3: to know what's your best money habit or is it
- 45:14Speaker 3: just literally everything?
- 45:15Speaker 2: Oh? I think I'm known in my family to be
- 45:19Speaker 2: a bit of a tight ass, and so I think
- 45:22Speaker 2: things that other people would invest money in, I kind
- 45:25Speaker 2: of think, oh, that seems so silly, why would you
- 45:28Speaker 2: do that? So things like bed sheets. My nana had
- 45:31Speaker 2: a massive thing for bed sheets, and she would spend
- 45:33Speaker 2: thousands of dollars on bed sheets. And I'm like, but
- 45:35Speaker 2: you're only going to sleep in it. No one's going
- 45:37Speaker 2: to see that, So I'll go to kmart happily and
- 45:40Speaker 2: buy my bed sheets.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you and I not too different in terms
- 45:46Speaker 3: of mindset, but when it comes to sheets, like you
- 45:49Speaker 3: can come lay in my bed and you tell me,
- 45:51Speaker 3: you tell me because it's different, I promise.
- 45:55Speaker 2: But yeah, I think definitely that like things that I
- 45:59Speaker 2: would skimp on, I suppose you to say other people
- 46:02Speaker 2: may not necessarily. But then also my points systems. I'm
- 46:05Speaker 2: always my partner's so sick and hearing about what's got
- 46:07Speaker 2: points this week and what doesn't.
- 46:08Speaker 3: So we'll just message me. I'll listen. I'm here, So
- 46:12Speaker 3: tell me what do you think. I'm not going to
- 46:14Speaker 3: ask your worst money habit yet, but I want to
- 46:16Speaker 3: know what would you splurge on then, Like, if it's
- 46:18Speaker 3: not bed sheets, what is that.
- 46:20Speaker 2: I do have a bit of a house plant addiction
- 46:22Speaker 2: that there has been discussions with my partner that when
- 46:25Speaker 2: we move in together, I will have to downside my
- 46:28Speaker 2: houseplant collections, and that upsets me.
- 46:31Speaker 3: I don't think that that's necessary because you know what, mate,
- 46:35Speaker 3: we don't have to live together.
- 46:38Speaker 2: But yeah, probably houseplants, Oh my god, that's probably something
- 46:41Speaker 2: that I.
- 46:42Speaker 3: People are listening going houseplants.
- 46:44Speaker 2: That's not a thing.
- 46:45Speaker 3: Houseplants, when you fall down that slippery slope, they can
- 46:49Speaker 3: get expensive. Are you into the exotic houseplants?
- 46:52Speaker 2: Now?
- 46:52Speaker 3: Is that what we're talking about here?
- 46:54Speaker 2: All right? I certainly wouldn't say they're exotic, but they
- 46:57Speaker 2: excite me and I love to talk about them. But
- 47:00Speaker 2: people are just saying, oh, okay, No, I also like to.
- 47:02Speaker 3: Talk about my post about them on my story is
- 47:04Speaker 3: quite regularly. I am not sorry. What's your worst money habit?
- 47:08Speaker 2: My worst money habit is probably I mean, I wouldn't
- 47:12Speaker 2: say it's a bad money habit, but I'm a sucker
- 47:15Speaker 2: for fruit and veggies, and fruit and veggies are so expensive,
- 47:18Speaker 2: so I will spend hundreds of dollars on my food shop.
- 47:22Speaker 2: But it's because of my fruit and veges. But I
- 47:26Speaker 2: don't think.
- 47:27Speaker 3: That's the worst if you're being really reasonable everywhere else,
- 47:30Speaker 3: like also astronomical, Like I was at the supermarket the
- 47:34Speaker 3: other day, What do you mean a punnet of blueberries
- 47:37Speaker 3: is nine dollars?
- 47:38Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 47:39Speaker 3: No, that that's actually taking the mickey, like that's that
- 47:43Speaker 3: has to be a joke. Like, do not get me wrong.
- 47:45Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it. Like, I know that,
- 47:48Speaker 3: you know they're Australian andwa're supporting Australian farmers all of that.
- 47:51Speaker 3: I totally get it. That's not the thing I'm arguing.
- 47:54Speaker 3: I'm arguing, what the hell is wrong with our economy? Yeah,
- 47:57Speaker 3: and the answer actually comes back to fuel. I know
- 48:00Speaker 3: the answer, but I don't like it.
- 48:02Speaker 2: Yes, it definitely adds up very quickly. We spend more
- 48:05Speaker 2: on food than we don'tant bills. It's ridiculous.
- 48:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean ridiculous, but it sounds like you're eating wells,
- 48:10Speaker 3: so like I'm mad, but like not mad.
- 48:12Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I think it's a bit of
- 48:14Speaker 2: a weird money habit, because like you know, my health
- 48:16Speaker 2: is thanking me, but my purse is not.
- 48:19Speaker 3: No, I get it. I get it. At the start
- 48:22Speaker 3: of this episode, you said, V I think I'm a
- 48:24Speaker 3: B minus. Where where is the B minus? I'm not
- 48:28Speaker 3: going to argue with you, because I don't think that's
- 48:30Speaker 3: very nice. But what I will do is ask you
- 48:32Speaker 3: what it would take to get to an A. Because
- 48:35Speaker 3: you're investing, you have a mortgage, you seem to have
- 48:37Speaker 3: your head screwed on. You've got really good money habits,
- 48:40Speaker 3: like girl, you couldn't really think of a worse money
- 48:42Speaker 3: habit yet with B minus. Come on, where are we?
- 48:46Speaker 3: What would it take to get to an A?
- 48:47Speaker 2: I think if I was to be an A, it
- 48:49Speaker 2: would definitely be smarter money decisions, Like I still make
- 48:55Speaker 2: some cold ones at the moment, but there's definitely better
- 48:58Speaker 2: ones to make, and so I think things like that
- 49:01Speaker 2: would probably make me not feel like I'm stretching my
- 49:04Speaker 2: money as far all right, Like, I'm going to allow it.
- 49:07Speaker 3: Just because I think that if you've decided, that's what
- 49:10Speaker 3: it is, and upon reflection, you haven't decided, or i'd
- 49:12Speaker 3: scrap that I'm changing my grade. I'll go with it.
- 49:16Speaker 3: I do think you're better than you think you are,
- 49:18Speaker 3: but that is okay, and we can argue about that
- 49:20Speaker 3: in my Instagram DM Slater Okay, money, darist, it has
- 49:24Speaker 3: been a pleasure. You are literally just so cool. What
- 49:27Speaker 3: do you mean You are twenty five and have achieved
- 49:29Speaker 3: all of this. I feel like you are internally maybe
- 49:33Speaker 3: thirty five in the best possible way. Like, as I
- 49:37Speaker 3: said at the start of this episode, you've been here before,
- 49:39Speaker 3: and that is a very good thing. She's clocked the
- 49:42Speaker 3: world once, since she's about.
- 49:43Speaker 2: To do it again. WHI is it than my age? Yes?
- 49:46Speaker 3: Yes, like she's a wise soul. I love it money, Darrist,
- 49:49Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for sharing
- 49:51Speaker 3: so much of your story and all the pervy bits
- 49:53Speaker 3: with our community, because I know that they will love
- 49:55Speaker 3: it just as much as I have.
- 49:57Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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