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- Lucas: If you've ever opened an email from a brand right before a product launch and thought, 'Okay, now I get why I should care' — that's not an accident. That's a deliberate strategy called list weathering, and it's one of the most underused pre-launch tactics in email marketing. Luna: List weathering. I like that term. It sounds like letting wood sit outside before you build something with it — you're conditioning the material. Lucas: Exactly. You're preparing your subscribers so they're not cold when the launch hits. I've got a great case for this: a direct to consumer skincare startup called Dewpoint. Back in early 2025, they had an 8,000-person list and were launching a new serum. Instead of a typical 'here's the product, buy now' email, they ran a 14-day weathering sequence. Luna: And the results? Lucas: Launch day open rate of 41 percent, click-through rate of 12 percent. For context, industry averages for skincare email campaigns are around 22 percent open and 3 to 4 percent click-through. So they roughly doubled both. Luna: That's impressive. So what did the sequence actually look like? Three phases? Five? Tell me the structure. Lucas: Three phases. Phase one — days one through five — was all about awareness. They didn't mention the product at all. They sent stories about the problem the serum solves: oxidative stress from city pollution, things like that. They used customer quotes and photos of actual skin concerns. No branding, no call to action besides 'reply and tell us your story.' Luna: So they built empathy first. That makes sense — you can't sell a solution until the subscriber feels the problem. Lucas: Right. Phase two — days six through eleven — was education. Now they introduced the science: the active ingredient, a patented antioxidant complex called Pro-Ceramide-7, which is a real ingredient they used. They explained how it works at the cellular level, showed before and after data from their clinical trial — 34 percent reduction in fine lines after eight weeks. Still no 'buy now.' Just 'here's why this works.' Luna: And phase three? Lucas: Days twelve through fourteen. Urgency. They opened pre-orders to subscribers only, with a 20 percent discount and a free gift. But they structured it as a limited run — only 1,000 units were available at that price. The key: they didn't blast the whole list on day twelve. They sent the offer in three waves over three days, segmented by engagement level from the first two phases. Luna: Wait — so the most engaged subscribers got first access? Lucas: Exactly. Subscribers who opened all five awareness emails got the offer on day twelve. Those who opened three or four got it on day thirteen. Everyone else on day fourteen. That scarcity — plus the feeling of being rewarded for attention — drove a lot of the click-through. Luna: And here's where I push back a little. Isn't this just a fancy name for hype-building? I mean, every brand does a pre-launch teaser campaign. What makes this different from, say, a standard three-email countdown? Lucas: Fair question. The difference is length and depth. A typical teaser is three to five emails over one week, mostly focused on the product. Weathering is longer — two weeks minimum — and it doesn't mention the product until the last phase. It's about changing the subscriber's mental state from 'I might buy something' to 'I understand why this matters.' The Dewpoint data showed that subscribers who went through the full 14-day sequence had a 28 percent higher average order value than those who joined the list mid-sequence and only got the final three emails. Luna: That's the killer stat right there. So weathering doesn't just boost opens — it changes purchase behavior. Lucas: It does. But there's a catch: list fatigue. If you send 14 emails in 14 days, even good ones, some people will unsubscribe. Dewpoint lost about 3.5 percent of their list during the weathering phase. That's higher than their normal monthly churn of around 1 percent. Luna: So you're trading a short-term churn spike for higher launch revenue. Is it worth it? Lucas: For Dewpoint, absolutely. They sold out the initial 1,000 units in four hours and generated about 120,000 dollars in revenue from that launch window alone. Their average order was about 85 dollars, higher than their typical 62 dollars. And many of those buyers stayed on the list — the post-launch re-engagement rate was fine. But I'd argue weathering isn't for every list. Luna: Let's talk about those conditions. When should someone NOT do this? Lucas: If your list is under 2,000 subscribers, a 14-day sequence with a 3.5 percent churn might hurt more than it helps. You're losing 70 people you worked hard to get. Also, if you're launching something low-consideration — like a 15-dollar ebook or a basic subscription — you don't need that much priming. Weathering works best for high-ticket items or products that require behavior change. Luna: So a 200-dollar skincare serum? Yes. A 12-dollar lip balm? Probably not worth the effort. Lucas: Right. And timing matters too. Weathering should happen when your list is relatively clean and engaged. If your list has a lot of dormant subscribers, a long sequence might just trigger spam complaints or high unsubscribe rates. Dewpoint had been doing regular list cleaning — they removed inactive subscribers quarterly — so their list was healthy. Luna: Before we go deeper, I want to circle back to something you said earlier about list health and the value of this show. You know, we spend a lot of time here talking about tactics that actually work — real numbers, real cases. And we deliberately keep the show free of ads or sponsors. If those conversations have sparked something you've actually used, there's a way to support the show directly. It's at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, no perks — just a way to keep this ad-free. Lucas: Yeah, I appreciate that. It's a small gesture that goes a long way in keeping the content focused on what works, not on selling ad slots. So — back to weathering. One thing I want to clarify: the sequence doesn't have to be 14 days. You can compress or expand it based on your audience. Luna: What's the minimum viable length? Lucas: I'd say seven days. That's the shortest I've seen work. Anything less and you're back in teaser territory. The awareness phase needs at least three days to build that emotional connection. Education needs at least three more. Urgency can be one or two. But if you have a very engaged list — say, a 30 percent open rate baseline — you might get away with a condensed version. Luna: And the content mix? What does an awareness email look like when you can't mention the product? Just stories? Lucas: Stories, data about the problem, user-generated content. Dewpoint sent an email with a photo of a woman holding up a mirror to show her sun spots, with a caption: 'I thought this was just aging. Turns out it's urban pollution damage.' No brand name, no product. Just a relatable, slightly uncomfortable truth. That email had a 51 percent open rate and a 9 percent reply rate — people were sharing their own skin stories. Luna: That's smart. You're turning the list into a focus group. Lucas: Exactly. And those replies gave Dewpoint qualitative data they used in the education phase. One subscriber wrote about how her commute through central London made her skin feel 'gritty.' Dewpoint used that exact word — 'gritty' — in an email two days later. It made the sequence feel personal. Luna: Okay, so the sequence is built on listening. But how do you measure whether weathering actually worked beyond launch-day sales? Should we look at list engagement post-launch? Lucas: Great question. The real metric is sustained engagement. Dewpoint tracked open rates for the 30 days after launch. Subscribers who went through the full weathering sequence had a 29 percent open rate on subsequent emails, compared to 18 percent for those who joined mid-sequence. That suggests weathering didn't just burn attention — it built a habit. Luna: So the sequence actually trains subscribers to pay attention to your emails. That's the hidden value. Lucas: Right. And here's another angle: weathering can reduce launch-day support costs. Because subscribers already understand the product, they ask fewer pre-purchase questions. Dewpoint's customer service team reported a 22 percent drop in launch-day inquiries compared to their previous launch, which used a standard three-email teaser. Luna: That's a huge operational benefit. Fewer 'what does this do' emails means your team can focus on actual orders. Lucas: Exactly. Now, one warning: weathering doesn't work if your list is too small or too cold. I've seen a B2B SaaS company try this with a 500-person list that hadn't been cleaned in a year. They lost 8 percent of their list in the first week, and the launch barely moved the needle. They didn't have enough engaged subscribers to justify the cadence. Luna: So before you weather, you need to clean. What's the threshold? 2,000 engaged subscribers? Lucas: I'd say 1,000 to 2,000 active subscribers — people who've opened an email in the last 90 days — is the minimum. But it also depends on your product price. For a 500-dollar product, you might only need 500 engaged subscribers because the revenue per sale is high. For a 50-dollar product, you need more volume. Luna: Let's step back. For a marketer listening who wants to try weathering for their next launch, what's the first step besides list cleaning? Lucas: Map out your three phases. Write the awareness emails first — three to five emails that tell stories about the problem. No product, no branding. Then write the education emails — three to five that explain the solution using data and science. Then write the urgency emails — one to three that create scarcity with a clear offer. And schedule them in waves, not all at once. Luna: And test the timing. Not every audience responds to 14 days. Maybe you can do 10 and still get the effect. Lucas: Absolutely. A/B test the length. Run the full sequence on half your list and a compressed seven-day version on the other half. Compare not just launch revenue but also post-launch engagement and churn. That data will tell you what your specific list can handle. Luna: That's the kind of granularity I love. Okay, final question: one year from now, do you think weathering becomes standard practice, or will it remain a niche strategy for high-consideration products? Lucas: I think it becomes standard for any launch over a certain price point — let's say a hundred dollars or more. As email continues to fragment and attention gets harder to earn, the brands that treat their subscribers like humans who need to understand before buying will win. Weathering is one of the most respectful ways to sell. It says 'I trust you to make a decision if I give you good information.' And that trust pays off. Luna: Respectful selling. I like that. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. That's it for this episode. We'll be back next week with another angle on email marketing that actually works.