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[Ep 42] Why Your Body is Inflamed (And It’s Not Why You Think) | Dr. Shivani Gupta · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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Welcome to Performance Driven Living, the podcast where we question everything.
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Take what lands, leave what doesn't, but whatever you do, don't stop questioning.
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We are here at the Performance Driven Living Podcast, I'm your host Mark Young, and we
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are joined today by a good friend and incredible soul.
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Her name is Dr. Shavani Gupta and Shavani.
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I always say this when everybody comes in, and that is our team puts together these
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introductions, and it doesn't matter what I could make up about you, they write these
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intros that are much better than I would ever do, so you're going to have to forgive
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me because I always read them.
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Sure.
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Good.
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And it says, I'm joined by a woman who blends the ancient with the cutting edge, Shavani
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Gupta.
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She's an Ayurvedic practitioner, entrepreneur, and founder of fusionary formulas for work
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bridges traditional Indian wisdom and modern wellness, especially when it comes to inflammation
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and the power of turmeric, Shavani, welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for having me.
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I appreciate that.
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And I love these intros.
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They always have it so perfectly spelled out.
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And I would like clumsy my way through it.
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Sure.
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Me too.
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Well, Shavani here on performance driven learning, I always say that my goal here is to always
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learn something, but I say that, so anybody who listens knows this and that is, I'm always
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questioning everything, right?
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I was that kid.
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Yeah.
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I was the kid who disassembled things just to see how it was put together and right was
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been that way for me, because I disassemble everything.
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So in my learning, usually it's a reverse engineering.
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And I am absolutely fascinated by the practice of Ayurveda.
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And I don't know.
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And nobody actually uses the word Ayurveda the way that Shavani does, because it's always
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perfectly pronounced.
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Yeah.
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And it makes me laugh.
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It's like, you know, the person who happens to speak French, who is always like, oh,
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well, we were all walking on the show, you say, it's like this perfect pronunciation,
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right?
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So you're a pronunciation of Ayurveda always impresses me.
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What is Ayurveda?
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Tell me what this is, because I hear this word a lot, particularly in the health space,
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and it sounds very woo-woo to me.
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Sure.
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And then I only kind of understand it.
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So it kind of started me off there.
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For sure.
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Ayurveda 101, great.
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Perfect, perfect.
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That's exactly what I mean.
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So Ayurveda is basically an ancient wisdom.
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It's a science.
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And Ayurveda means the science of life.
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So it's one of the ancient scriptures from India that outlined for us how we should live
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for longevity and for prevention.
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So it's like a blueprint, basically, of how to live, when to wake up, when to eat, when
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to sleep, all these things that nowadays, wellness and longevity, we're calling circadian
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clock, and circadian rhythm, and all these things.
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Ayurveda had a guide for us on, this is your constitution, understand your individual
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constitution based on the elements.
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We talked about your circadian clock customized to your primary elements.
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We talked about your gut health being the center of all health.
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So it's been amazing that in recent decades, everyone's like, microbiome and gut brain
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access.
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We're like, yeah, 5,000 years, we've been saying that thank you for proving it with modern
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science.
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That makes it easier for us to say what we're going to say.
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So Ayurveda always said that gut health is the center of your immune system, your brain,
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your mood, every single thing you want in life starts in the gut.
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Yeah.
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Then we talk a lot about self-care rituals and how these self-care rituals that you can
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do every day are detoxing and supporting of your longevity.
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Ayurveda is a sister science to yoga.
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And so whenever we talk about yoga and all that wisdom, and you want to take that yoga
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feeling off the mat that is your Ayurveda lifestyle.
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And then finally, I pull a lot from the super spices and super herbs because when I was
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sitting there in Ayurveda school, studying for my masters and they taught everything,
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I was like, okay, so you're going to tell me to do yoga, self-care, live in a rhythm,
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just to my dosha, optimize my gut, eat an amazing special yogic diet.
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All that's awesome.
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But then you're saying these herbs are like super foods?
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That's amazing because I have always come from a family of diabetes.
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How am I going to win at my health?
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These tools seem pretty amazing.
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So that's why I immediately pulled two market spices, but I love teaching everything
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else because you need to live the Ayurveda lifestyle.
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You can't just use the air.
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So first of all, thank you for unpacking Ayurveda for me.
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Yeah.
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Simply because I think I actually thought this was a, I didn't realize you used the
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word lifestyle.
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Yeah.
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But this was the constitution and I love that because I didn't understand that.
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So thank you for teaching it to me.
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But I wanted to one step further into that and that is we're talking about ancient wisdom.
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And a topic that's come up in my life a lot lately has been this idea that I've used
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to phrase unlearning a tremendous amount in the season of my life.
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And part of that unlearning is the fact of like modern science, if I can use that phrase
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because I think it's all sort of weird, but you know, current science, current discoveries.
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I'm laughing because we're calling them breakthroughs.
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And in fact, so much of what we're seeing today in science, especially how it's related
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science, but not just that, but even other types of sciences.
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Sure.
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It's ancient wisdom.
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Hey, like a topic came up.
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I was, I was talking to somebody, but a day about even, and then I know that you are
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a vegetarian.
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Yeah.
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Um, I personally eat very carnivore, right?
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So opposite ends of this spectrum.
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Yeah.
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But one of the things that's very, um, topical for me right now is this idea of humane
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treatment of animals.
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Sure.
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And, you know, prior to them being slaughtered for, for me.
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And the idea that cellular trauma is real, that, that animals that are killed in, in
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horrific environments, store cellular trauma that we end up eating.
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And it's like, I was having this conversation.
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You know, the doctor, Chris Molly is, yeah, love him.
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Yeah.
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And he and I actually were having this conversation.
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It's like, well, that's great.
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Like, I don't, I don't have a, a problem or any kind of issue with eating animals out
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this way.
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Like, that's not my issue.
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But I definitely wouldn't want them treated and humanely and to build them.
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And it's not just because I don't want to hurt anything, but at the same time, it's,
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it's unhealthy.
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Correct.
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Physically, it's unhealthy to do that.
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And it immediately made me think back like, well, the Jewish culture of, of kosher
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was or, or the Muslim laws of, of halal, and it was like, this isn't new information,
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guys.
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And we're like, oh, but cortisol levels are raised in animals if they're killed in stressful
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situations.
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And that passes along to the person who eats this meat and like, or maybe that was 5,000
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years old.
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Like, this isn't new information.
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Yeah.
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And it's so beautiful to watch the returning to the original of this stuff.
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You see that a lot in the US right now, like home-steading.
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Let's pickle our foods and put it in jars.
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I'm kind of watching all of them online.
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I have to admit, I'm not doing any of it.
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But as I watch them, like, build sellers full of pickled foods, I'm like, this was the
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original lifestyle we all had and we've gotten so far away from it that it is so problematic.
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And I think a lot about what you're talking about because although I'm vegetarian, I just
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open it up for my children to start eating meat.
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And so I, I really like flinch every time something's going in a way I don't imagine.
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For example, they'll throw things away, like they won't eat the chicken that's cooked
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for them.
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And, and I look at them like an animal died for you.
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I bought that for this house for you to eat and you're going to throw it in the trash.
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And it really triggers, like, I am a Hindu who believes that in Hindu and Buddhist who
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believes every life we impact matters on every level, whether I rip a lead out to the
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dairy in the cows, if you're talking about cortisol, I really think a lot about factory
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farms dairy in the United States.
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No, no.
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You just took a, oh, that's even deeper than I was even paid attention to, but you're
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traumatized cows are going to be putting out milk that is even unhealthy.
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Exactly.
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And then we get to the level of the animal itself.
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So to really, I mean, people have pointed this out about vegetarians, like to clear a piece
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of land for growing a vegetable, you're also going to cause harm to life.
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So I'm very balanced in my view.
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We're going to cause a lot of harm to my, what we do, but how can we be conscious?
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How can we be intentional?
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And I think in the United States section really high.
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It's why when I go abroad, I'm always fascinated.
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I go to Italy.
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I'm like, how are you guys doing?
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How do you keep your cows happy?
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How do you kill animals consciously for your consumption?
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Like, what is your approach?
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And so I had a similar conversation which recently, Richard Drucker, do you know who he is?
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I've heard.
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So he runs Drucker Labs and they actually do carbon binding technology to re-mineralize.
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So like his products are all about the great products, Drucker Labs, and they actually
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do a phobic and humic assets for human consumption.
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But then they also have technology that actually re-mineralizes soil.
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They actually use this carbon bonding to restore soil to its mineralized state.
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But anyways, I had a conversation with him.
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And it was kind of a weird conversation.
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It was like, because we're talking about like, well, the produce that you eat.
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I mean, you're a vegetarian.
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It's like, well, where do you actually get good produce nowadays?
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If it's US grown, it's grown in soil that's been over-cropped.
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Yeah.
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So mineral depletion all over the place with soil.
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So you're not even getting what you really need in that.
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Correct.
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And then I was like, well, wait a minute.
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So you are what you eat, but you're also you are what you eat.
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Eat.
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Right.
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Like, which means even if I'm eating beef, I'm eating beef that has been feeding on mineral
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depleted foods.
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Sure.
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It's even even my vegetarian cow meal.
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Right.
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It's lacking.
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It was lacking.
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Like, how's food was lacking, which means the cow is lacking, which means I'm not getting
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what I want even through the cow.
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And it's like, which, which is like a whole mother level of conversational, right?
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And you just brought up dairy, which just, yeah, I think a lot about anything that I'm
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going to consume.
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I'm so dialed in on food and diet and these things.
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And my life to teach I am either for 20 years.
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And even I get so frustrated with my blood work because it shows up in my blood work that
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although I'm living this amazing life, the food I'm choosing to eat isn't giving my body
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what it needs.
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Yeah.
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Because of the mineral depletion in the land.
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And so to me, that just means we have to work a little harder.
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We have to find those farms in our local areas, we have to partner with those farms.
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I'm committed to finding eggs locally and buying them direct, not from my Instacart sprouts
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orders that I normally do.
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Like these shifts in awareness and consciousness into food sourcing and everything sourcing.
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Skin care, everything that goes on us has to be an awareness in a shift or we're always
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going to be chasing our tail.
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And then we're always going to be over in biohacking saying, why, why do I need more and
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more and just consuming with this voracious hunger?
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And like what you just said, it's the land underneath that's lacking and everything upstream
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from there is affected.
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And so we have to get really down into that level of where am I sourcing from?
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What am I putting in my body?
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Am I even aware when I'm putting it in my body?
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Because in our way though, we say if you're in motion and you're eating, you're not going
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to digest that.
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And just on the social media post, I want to say this this morning, I want to say I wanted
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to give credit what credit is due.
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I believe it was Josh Axe.
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Okay.
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And he said, medicine is not about adding a solution.
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It's about removing it.
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I saw that.
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Did you see it?
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It was about removing a toxin.
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Like when we're trying to heal from something, we have a tendency to find out what should
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I take.
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Right.
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And it was a mindset shift for me, almost like, that's good.
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Like this is not about what do I need to add in or what do I need to remove?
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Like there's, there's something that's causing a problem, get rid of what's causing a problem
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and not try to add a solution.
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Correct.
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And that's what I think what we're doing a lot of in longevity and biohacking, which I'm
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into everything.
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I, I, I buy a lot of it.
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I'm carrying my mineral water.
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I do those things, but I also am very conscious that in IRV, they'll be, say, the biggest
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problem we have is this accumulation of something called, um, or toxins.
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So if you can imagine this toxin residue that's collected all on your insides from
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a lot of our behaviors, I, I laugh with my kids.
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I was a doctor pet for drinking big red gum chewing fast food, eating Taco Bell girl
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in college.
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That's who I was.
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You know, now I'm like, it's all organic and it's all healthy.
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I know where I came from.
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That's what we all did in the 80s and then that early, these probably, um, and so really
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now I think about it is what are my daily rituals to clear and detox?
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What are my seasonal circadian practices to fair and detox?
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How do I invest in sleep?
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So it's so deep, so profound that it allows my brain to clear.
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How am I living according to my Ayurvedic clock and how am I customizing it for my individual
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Losha?
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So for example, it's obvious you're a fifth out when we teach about these.
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I don't know what that is.
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Yeah.
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I may be insulted here.
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You got on.
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You're not insulted.
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I'm a fifth out.
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So we have three Losha's.
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Vata, Vita and Gaffa.
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These are three different body types that exist.
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So I always do a quiz on everyone or have them take that quiz.
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And then I say, you're a fifth out, you're going to be fiery.
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In the summer in South Florida, you're going to get overheated, you're going to get frustrated,
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you're going to get angry, like you're going to be like a volcano ready to erupt often.
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So let me show you how to adjust your circadian clock to summer.
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Let me show you how to adjust your food, your diet, the drinks that you do, everything
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in your life can customize to season.
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And then that's where you can help health optimization.
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So it comes back to what you just said, which is let's take out some things in the seasons
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where our elemental forces kind of get imbalanced.
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And that's how we're going to feel our absolute best.
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And that's not a conversation happening right now.
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Most times when we talk about modern day, longevity, biohacking and health optimization,
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it's like, all of you are deficient in D, the iron, it's just supplement and win.
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And I'm like, yeah, and can we talk about the lifestyle that we're not living by?
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That's the root cause of the issue itself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so I am my next question because I have so many things I want to ask you.
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The next thing I do want to ask you is your mom, your business owner, your a wife in
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one household, you and I have a practitioner, you actually have some health coaching that
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you do, you've got a podcast, you've got a TV show.
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How in the literal hell do you have time to pay attention to what kind of eggs you're
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buying?
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Because one of the struggles that I have, and I think a lot of people do, is, I mean,
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literally while we're sitting here talking, I've got a copper bottle next to me, no, it's
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not a good job.
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It's probably a halfway job because I poured it, poured the water that's in it out of a
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plastic bottle.
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Okay.
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But I'm cognizant of this and I get overwhelmed because I literally feel like I'm dancing
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through to a mine field, yes, trying to control my house on the regular and here's the
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dealing.
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That's from a person who I think has a pretty good handle on this type of stuff anyways.
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And I'm like, you know, sure, I've got my ore ring and I've got my lila pendant.
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I've got my copper bottle and it's like, and I drank my monster energy drink on my
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right here.
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Sure.
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Like, I say, I live in this world of dissonance sometimes because because I just, you can't
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win it everything, right?
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Like sure.
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I've got my Aries EMF blocking thing on my iPad and it's on my phone and I've got one
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on my keychain and it's like, and I live in a high rise building where there's 40 floors
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of Wi-Fi signals being blasted at me on a regular basis, like there's such this, this dissonance
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and I think people who get in, it's like, it's like taking that red pill and coming out
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of the matrix and yet once you get out of the matrix, you're just like, my god, yeah.
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Like all of a sudden, I like, I walk into a 7-Eleven and I'm like, why is he the poison
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star?
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Right.
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Literally.
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Yeah.
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But I'm going to be honest with you and tell you, there are times that I'm like, who cares?
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Like, I'm just going to eat Taco Bell tonight.
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Yeah.
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And I'm just going to just, I'm going to take the bullet and it's going to happen and
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I'm going to eat that French fry and I'm not going to work out as hard as I know I should.
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Yeah.
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And my six-pack abs are not going to shine through this summer.
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Yeah.
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And I survey this about balance.
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Yeah.
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It is.
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It's the most out of balance thing for me sometimes because I don't know how to balance
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it all.
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Like, what do you tell people?
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Like, you have to deal with this on the regular.
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I mean, you probably struggle with it yourself to be honest.
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I do.
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I'm sitting here like, oh my gosh, you're outlining the biggest struggle.
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Well, you're outlining the biggest struggle I have.
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Like I know better and I know what's best.
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And so I just wish it was easy to live a life where everything was in flow and everything
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was peaceful.
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And I wanted to wake up early to meditate like I talk about all the time and I wish when
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I traveled, I wasn't drinking out of plastic water bottles all day long.
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It triggers me so much.
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I just came back from a two-week trip abroad.
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And everything they were putting sugar in the ramen, all the noodles had gluten.
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You have to drink out of plastic water bottles when you travel.
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You're on the road unless you're going to be really anal and carry a water.
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We've got a water cooler at my office and it's like, and sure, I can go fill my copper
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bottle, but I'm filling it out of a plastic container.
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Correct.
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Correct.
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It's a glass.
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It's a 10 gallon plastic things from Zephyr Hills or whoever it is.
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And it's like, sure, but it's been transported to plastic all the time.
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Right?
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And then everybody's telling me that I've got a plastic spoons full of plastic in my
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brain.
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You know, and yeah, you know what?
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When I work out, I chew gum.
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Sure.
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I chew gum releases thirties, pieces of micro-flapet and I'm like, I'm like, I'm stuck.
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So I think in IRB, so it's interesting in IRB, though what we say is, what a love it.
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Can I do that?
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Yeah, please.
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Because the truth of the matter is, is like, it was easier drinking out at least a glass
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bottle.
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Yeah.
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I've had several of those and I shatter them all.
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Me too.
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Terrible.
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And constantly cleaning up glass, which is why I've moved the copper recently.
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But I think that this frustration is legitimate for most people.
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The more you know, the more frustrating it is.
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And then I, you know, it's like, I would have loved to have gotten it this morning and
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had steak and eggs, but I did you.
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Sure.
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Because you wouldn't want steak and eggs with.
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I had my eggs.
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And I had goat cheese because that's non-dairy, but still yummy and fattening and does the
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good, good job of me.
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You know, here's the way I look at it.
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IRB that teaches us to dance.
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It's a rhythm.
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And so I'm very much a believer in, if you build a rhythm for your life, if you build
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it in moderation, you use the word moderation.
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And if you accept that there will always be some negative stuff that goes in the body.
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In modern day times, it's going to be more than ever.
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So I do think we have to have more of a vigilance than we've ever had to have around our health
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because the inputs coming out as are far worse than they were in ancient time.
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In ancient times, they weren't eating a credit cards with a plastic, per week or for
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months.
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They didn't have that problem.
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I'm sure they had all their other problems that they didn't know about.
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Maybe there was, yeah, I've never gotten attacked by a lion.
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There you go.
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So I really look at it as what is your ed and flow balance and where do you build resilience
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by putting in so much good?
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It's almost like the investment into the pot of so much good habits will completely
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build the stress resilience and the system to allow for that 20% of give.
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And we have to learn to not stress on the 20%.
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That's the hard part.
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I'm abroad and I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to have to undo all this damage when I
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got back.
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And the maturity there is, I got back and I said, you know what?
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You know how to build a rhythm.
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Lift, walk, circadian rhythm, walks in nature, supplement heavily, move on.
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Don't get attached to the punishment of travel.
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It was a lot of us in this modern day time and the health and wellness world are traveling
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like crazy.
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Right.
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And so to me, every time I went this plane, this airport, this fumes, like it all can
21:55
add up.
21:56
I went and bought underwear from legal quantum because they actually have quantum infuse.
22:00
It's your EFF blocking underwear.
22:02
And it's funny because like I call them my my travel underwear because like I always
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wear them when I'm letting the airplane.
22:09
I'm thinking about an airplane plan and I'm trying not to make myself so high made
22:14
that feels a little paranoid.
22:15
Because I'm already pretty high maintenance about my supplements, my T, like I have a,
22:19
a wellness package I plan for myself for travel before I pack clothes.
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So fill up if you're watching this, you'll know that I'm going to wear a lila underpants
22:26
tomorrow while I'm, while I'm on the airplane.
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Yeah, but I do think IRB that gives us a lot of tools.
22:32
It's saying always address your gut, always address your sleep, the things you have under
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control do.
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And then lovingly know there's a gift because you built in that gift.
22:43
So I was asked, I was a guest on a somebody else's podcast yesterday and I was asked like
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how do you, you know, what do you do to get into this type of rhythm?
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Because the conversation was all about discipline, and you know, and I say that I'm a person
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who I try discipline doesn't get me very far because while I'm a disciplined person,
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what I've learned about myself is that I think like most people I'm super hyper vigilant
23:09
about something until I'm not.
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Sure.
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And then once the reals fall off like I'm telling me, and what I told him was that one of
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the ways that I try to circumvent that is I, I look for ways that I can actually put
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a reward system into the things that I don't like.
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Yeah.
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And one of the examples I gave is that I'm a daily gym goer, but I'm a daily gym goer,
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but I go to a hit gym, you know, which is kind of like a cross fit and stuff for somebody
23:36
doesn't really know that.
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But a group fitness is interesting to me, and I enjoy it because I'm a social being.
23:44
And like I will go and I was commenting that over the weekend, I was out in Los Angeles,
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but I'll never go to a hotel gym like I'll go find an F 45 somewhere and pay the $30
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to go to the fitness class as opposed to working out in a hotel gym because there's a reward
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built in that I get community during something that I wouldn't want to do by myself.
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And it makes me go do the thing that I otherwise wouldn't do.
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And I find myself trying to build those types of things in my life, but I don't keep
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sweets around the house because if I do, I'll eat them.
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Correct.
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Like they will be eaten.
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So I just, I don't keep it in the house.
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I don't put it in the refrigerator.
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I, I deliberately block things out of my life so that I can't fall into that trap.
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Sure.
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What are some of the, what are some of the things that you do?
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Because we talk about this 20% yeah, right?
24:38
And I think anybody who gets into this flow, I'm like, okay, well, now I'm using copper
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bottles.
24:44
And while I'm talking to you, I'm like, yeah, but I'm getting copper bottles.
24:47
I'm filling out of a plastic container like, well, better than nothing, right?
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Copper would re-minilize it.
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Re-minilize it.
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Re-minilize in Florida.
24:54
I'm always filtering any water that I drink in Florida because it's so bad.
24:57
And then I'm laughing because it all goes through, because I'll take it through my
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plastic water filter machine.
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Sure.
25:05
So like sure, I'm filtering the water through a plastic filtration system and then pouring
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some of that water into my plastic ice maker, you know, where I'm then scooping it and
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putting it into a copper drinking vessel, right?
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I'm like, and some of it like almost feels like a, like a fool's air and right because
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at some point I could bulk everything I do and they're like, yeah, well, that's great,
25:29
but you just did this and then again, it's a dissonance that we live with.
25:33
But what are some of the habits and rituals I'll call it that you've built into your
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life?
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Because like I'm telling you, like, I keep this out or I keep the positive attached to
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a negative, be sure it makes the negative less negative, it's like, we're sure.
25:46
I evade that specifically, but what are some of the rituals that you've built into your
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life that you try to keep the dissonance at bay a little bit?
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Sure.
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But the dissonance, I think I'll always be there, but in Ayurveda, we teach that there's
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something called didn't that Jadiya, the daily self-care rituals that you use to consistently
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detox the body and help the body have that resilience we're talking about.
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So the first one is wake up and set an intention first.
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So touching the ground, touching your forehead and say, thank you, but setting an intention
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like a word for the day, mine is usually peace because like you mentioned, I've got a lot
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of hats I wear.
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And if I don't have peace, I cannot execute on all the friends I'm managing at a given
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time.
26:27
So I set that intention, hydrate first because we're a big fan of peristalsis, systems
26:32
got a move first thing in the morning, we're obsessed with everyone having their first
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bowel movements, we're self-sessed with gut health.
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And then the next thing I do is when I go to brush my teeth, I use a copper tone scraper.
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So we're big fans of copper in Ayurveda because even 5,000 years ago, they knew this will
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remineralize you.
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It's an antibacterial metal, it'll stay cleaner.
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So I scrape my tongue 7 to 14 times and that's oftentimes my first habit, a lot of times
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I wake up to an alarm and I am already late.
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I've got to get this kid up, that kid up, everything has to move at once.
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So I will use that and remind myself, this is your first habit of many today for self-care.
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Then I do my oil pulling, oil pulling is taking one to two tablespoons of oil, coconut
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oil, organic is fine or any oil you choose, and I swish around your mouth for 5 to 20
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minutes.
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That one I can only do if I'm going to take a shower because I've got a lot of people
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I'm talking to to get everyone out of the house and I'm leaving voice memos for team
27:24
by then.
27:25
But those are two habits that are going to clear the oral microbiome, which is going to
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support gut microbiome, it's going to help gently detox the body, which is that tongue
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scraping, just like in reflexology, all your organs of your body are reflected on the
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bottom of your foot.
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In Ayurveda, we choose that all the organs are reflected on the tongue, so you're gently
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scraping the tongue, but you're not just scraping the tongue, you are detoxing all the organs
27:49
of your body, you are helping your body release that amna or toxin, burden and residue that
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forms so that when you go to a seasonal or annual detox, which many of us do, what
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is like I'm already good, how to handle this, you help me every single day.
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And then it's also going to help clear any bacterial overgrowth and clear our taste buds,
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so we taste better.
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And so any time we help oral microbiome, like I said, we're supporting gut, so that's
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kind of how I start my morning, then I start my day.
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And the only way I can fit in self-care during the day for myself is a cup of tea.
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And so I took the self-care rituals of Ayurveda and I moved all the rest into the evening
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because as a mom, I better get them into school and then I've got to get to work or I usually
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lift and then go to work.
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And so my habit I teach is called tea time is me time.
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And that's why online, you probably see, look, a million cups of tea posted by me, but
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it's my moment that I call my mindful moment where I really anchor in and just take a second.
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I take a breath.
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You can't choke tea.
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Like I was on my way here and I was like, I've got to finish my tea before I see Mark.
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And I can't rush that process, it's burning hot, right?
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So I waited, it got to just perfect.
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And as I was driving, I got to have my tea, I tune in and I always ask my intuition.
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What's going on?
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What do I need to know today?
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And I have trained my intuition to really answer me.
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And I would say the biggest gift that I have made that gives us is the ability for our
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own inner intelligence and intuition to give us the answers that we need.
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And so a lot of times what I'm asking with that cup of tea is, what am I not aware of
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that I need to be aware of?
29:20
And my body will tell me, you haven't planned for yourself to eat today.
29:24
You need to say no to those people, just say no.
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Because a lot of times I'm saying yes to everyone and everything at once.
29:30
But my inner intelligence already knows that deal I'm thinking about, that person,
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that relationship, whatever it is, is endowed.
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And so I use tea time to really calibrate the day, the week.
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And I take that moment to handle things I need to.
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And then by evening, I shipped a shift into the Ayurvedic self-care rituals again.
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So we teach dry brushing, which is something called opium massage, a full body massage
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with oil to really ground our energy.
29:56
We talk about journaling and really releasing the day and only feeding our brain the seeds
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we need before a great night's sleep.
30:03
Because when we sleep, for example, if you're watching the news or violence right before
30:07
that, that's what your brain is going to chew on all night long.
30:11
And so Ayurveda always said, you want your brain to chew on beautiful spiritual things
30:14
and then wake up with answers.
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And so a lot of my practices at nine o'clock, I have a hard line and I shift into deep sleep
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tea, self hygiene sleep rituals, a hot shower, journaling, really winding up the day.
30:30
To sleep, according to Ayurveda, 10 to 2 on the sleep clock, circadian clock is when
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we're going to clear the glimphatic system.
30:37
And so since we're so obsessed with detoxing, if you're not sleeping 10 to 2, you're not
30:41
clearing that that waste in your brain up to three pounds of waste, could accumulate
30:45
in your brain overnight, I'll put into Ayurveda and the circadian clock into the glimphatic
30:50
system and your lymphatic system will clear.
30:52
So to me, those are like my anchor points in my day.
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And then if I can do more, I'll do more.
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And typically, that's all I will get to in a day.
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That's interesting.
31:02
Some of those rituals, like I wish I were so disciplined on those things because sometimes
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I am, sometimes I'm not.
31:08
And I travel so much that, you know, some of that, I mean, you're making me think like,
31:13
like I just, as you're talking, like I've got two copper tone scrapers at my house and
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I do that, not as ritual as you are about it.
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But I don't have one in my travel bag.
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And I'm like, well, why don't I stick one in my travel bag?
31:25
Like I don't do that when I travel.
31:27
Like, well, that's an easy fix.
31:28
And I think I say that nobody wins the war.
31:32
But there's a lot of battles that we can certainly win along the way.
31:36
And one of those is, you know, I want to pivot just for a, for a, well,
31:42
probably the remainder of our time to be honest with you.
31:44
But I, well, I want to, yeah, but I want to, I want to go one place first.
31:49
You mentioned being Hindu, Buddhist, yeah, I'm a Christian.
31:54
I mentioned earlier about the kosher and how all killing of animals,
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like obviously that's a lot of fates that are all brought in here.
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Sure.
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And Ayurveda is, it's not a religion.
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No.
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This is just a way of life that's practiced by cultures.
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What is the spiritual implication of Ayurveda?
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Because it's not specifically religious by promise or more of a Hindu tradition.
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Correct.
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But so much un-fascinated because so much of what's brought up in Ayurveda is also Jewish.
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Yes.
32:31
It's also Muslim and it's also Christian and it's also Buddhist.
32:35
Like they're so, because ancient wisdom was ancient wisdom.
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And I think this is a opinion only that particularly in modern times,
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I think we associate these types of behaviors and cultural things and
32:52
call them religious.
32:54
Right.
32:55
But in fact, religious is spiritual side of things that is dissociated with the cultural
33:00
practices of things, and we've, in an effort to allow diversity into a spiritual world,
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we kind of threw out all of these other things as well.
33:10
Right.
33:11
Like, okay, well, I'm not Jewish, but that doesn't mean I can't respect and incorporate Jewish
33:18
culture into my practices and I'm not Hindu, but it doesn't mean that there aren't a lot
33:24
of health benefits to things that are practiced in the Hindu tradition.
33:27
Right.
33:28
And I hear people like, oh, yoga is bad.
33:30
Sure.
33:31
I got it.
33:32
I get that yoga has a Hindu upbringing, but I don't believe that practicing yoga and understanding
33:38
the form of the human body and how it best moves is sacrilege, if I'm not Hindu.
33:44
Like, I'm just curious how you see that, that this is not a religion, this is a lifestyle,
33:50
and there's adaptations from all cultures that we would be better to, like, I'm not finished,
33:57
but I enjoy a good sauna.
33:58
Sure.
33:59
Of course, of course.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's interesting.
34:02
I grew up in a Hindu family and luckily, my parents took me to Vedantic school, which
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is really the study of Buddhist philosophy and Hinduism together in a way.
34:12
It's like the Buddhist aspect of Hinduism.
34:14
It's a very letting go of the rituals of sitting there and putting food in flour in front
34:19
of a god and instead understanding the philosophy.
34:22
So because of that, when I look at Ayurveda and I look at any of the health systems I'm
34:27
talking about nowadays, I really do think of them as our path to our spiritual self.
34:33
And I think we don't talk about that as much because it doesn't seem like anyone cares
34:37
to hear it.
34:38
I don't even mention the spirituality of Ayurveda.
34:41
But I have a teacher who's a priestess and when I was sitting with her in session, she's
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like, can you explain to us the spirituality of Ayurveda?
34:49
Is it there?
34:50
And I said, it's the whole point.
34:52
The whole point of your Ayurvedic journey, your Ayurvedic lifestyle, your Ayurvedic
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day is to bring yourself into alignment, your elemental forces into alignment.
35:02
Why do I focus so much on all this health stuff?
35:04
When you go to yoga and you have Shavasana at the end, what is the point of our Shavasana
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laying there in total stillness?
35:11
It's the messages that come in, it's God's voice or whoever you believe in coming in and
35:16
giving you answers and giving you support and showing you that you are one.
35:21
And so in Ayurveda also, we're saying, let's bring body into alignment, emotions, mental
35:26
health into alignment once you have those spiritual alignments, easy.
35:31
And so that's why when I started teaching what I teach in the last couple of years, I
35:34
called it vibrant health because what I was trying to get at is we each have a vibration.
35:39
And I can tell when my vibration is so alive and so energized and so happy.
35:45
And when I'm at that point, I can do anything.
35:48
I feel invincible.
35:49
And that's usually the Shavasana you get to see because that's how I show up.
35:52
I'm like, I am ready to change the whole world.
35:54
Let's do it.
35:55
And I also know when I'm dysregulated and I'm tired and I haven't done anything right.
36:00
And I'm in my low energy space.
36:02
And so my dream is actually for everyone to achieve such a high energy state that all
36:07
we want to do is good for each other because when we're in that state, we've kind of cleared
36:11
the clutter.
36:12
Fear in that clutter of, oh, I've got to handle this, that the other, whatever.
36:15
When I'm in my highest vibration, all I want to do is to, and I think we have that opportunity
36:21
now.
36:22
We're understanding health at a level where we can clear all that well energy out of the
36:26
way and stay in that vibration.
36:28
I love that you say that because it's one of the conversations that I have on a regular
36:32
basis with people.
36:33
It's like part of the reason why I take such intricate care of my health is because, you
36:40
know, I always get the quote wrongly, Bobby Kennedy made a comment, it's like, I mean,
36:44
he has a hundred dreams until he has a health concern and then he has one.
36:48
And for me, I have to take care of my health because if my stomach is upset or I'm tired
36:55
or I'm feeling out of balance, I'm all vibration, I'm all energy, I can't show up for anybody
37:01
else.
37:03
And in my book, Radical Generosity, like that was actually one of the topics that I discussed
37:07
that part of generosity, the fifth element of generosity is being willing to give to yourself
37:13
because you can't, you can't give out of an empty cock that me showing up in a healthy
37:19
state.
37:20
And I mean, not just physical health, but emotional health, spiritual health, like everything
37:25
about we needs to be in balance because when I'm out of balance, my focus is on me.
37:30
And when I'm in balance, my focus is outward and outward is the way I want to live in my life.
37:35
It's not.
37:36
So Shivani, I want to pivot where I really want to end the conversation is in this idea,
37:42
you mentioned earlier about supplementation, you know, in the intro, I'd mentioned turmeric.
37:47
And then you touched on two points earlier when we were talking and you made a comment about
37:51
detox and you made a comment about longevity.
37:56
And I recently, I given the lecture about supplementation and interestingly enough,
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it actually was to the executive team at Kroger grocery stores.
38:04
And yeah, which was quite interesting because the topic of the conversation was about how
38:08
you don't get what you walk through food.
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Sure.
38:11
And it's like, that's really weird to give to an executive team at a grocery store.
38:13
Yeah.
38:14
But really talking about like, you don't necessarily get what you need through this.
38:19
And part of what I had unpacked was that I'm a heavy supplement guy.
38:24
I'm always doing lots of supplements and in that, what I'll say is that there are,
38:28
I categorize my supplements because people say like, well, what do you take?
38:32
And like, well, it depends on for what?
38:34
Right.
38:35
And I've kind of taken my supplements and put them into four categories.
38:38
And my first one is nutritional decollution.
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Sure.
38:42
That is, what are the vitamins and minerals that I don't believe I'm getting through my diet?
38:46
And part of that could be because I just don't eat, right?
38:49
Sure.
38:50
No, I eat perfect.
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Right.
38:52
Nobody eats perfect.
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And I just, sometimes I just don't feel like eating what I should eat tonight.
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And I know there's going to be a gap.
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Yeah.
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So I supplement for that every day.
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Sure.
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Because even if I do eat, right?
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That's okay.
39:05
A little bit of extra vitamin.
39:06
That's a little bit of vitamin.
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Another.
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One category I keep is one for what I call longevity, cool.
39:11
And that includes such things as like AKG and spermadine and those types of things that
39:19
are resveratrol that are supplements that are specifically focused on core longevity
39:24
elements.
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Right.
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One is I have a supplement category for detoxification.
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Right.
39:31
And I'll use like C60 oils.
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Yes.
39:34
I'll use like Axis Ant then.
39:36
And these types of things that are literally just detox pressures.
39:39
Check out.
39:40
And the fourth one that I use is actually what I use for like optimization was what I call
39:43
and that's the one I probably clay with most.
39:46
That's where I'm doing things that are that are mental stimulants.
39:49
That's where I'm doing nitric oxide.
39:51
That's where I'm doing different types of things, maybe a different form of BCAAs or I'm
39:55
doing some other stack for working out differently.
39:59
And I'm also big in the peptides and all this other kind of crazy stuff.
40:03
So my house looks like a damn pharmacy.
40:05
Sure.
40:06
But the reality is that I categorize all of this stuff in supplementation because I'm
40:11
a freak.
40:12
Sure.
40:13
One of the things I don't use on the regular and ashamed, I'm ashamed to say this is
40:21
I actually out of all of the things you heard me say, I don't understand the benefit
40:28
of tour the way I probably should because and I'm, again, you've been a friend of mine
40:32
years.
40:33
Yeah.
40:34
And I don't like to make that.
40:35
I've not, I've not adopted this and I don't know why.
40:38
Sure.
40:39
I just, I mean, I'll take the most obscure things, but when it, I just have never brought
40:45
turmeric into that family land.
40:46
And I'm like, obviously it's something that I need to do because you would swear by it.
40:50
I would.
40:51
I'd put it as one and only that you've committed your life to it.
40:55
Like your PhD is in turmeric, which I think is hilarious to me, by the way, but it's like
41:00
a PhD in turmeric.
41:01
I'm like, is that a study?
41:04
And I love it.
41:05
And I know your story on it.
41:06
And I love how deep you are in this.
41:10
But you're, you're an entrepreneur and you run a company called fusionary formulas.
41:15
And really fusionary is, well, you have things other than turmeric.
41:19
Sure.
41:20
Turmeric is your, your anchor, which is your passion.
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This is your life.
41:25
Why are you so passionate?
41:26
Like I've got 70 different supplements that are in my, my arrow quiver in your life,
41:32
turmeric.
41:33
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What is, what is so beneficial about this?
41:38
And if so, why isn't everybody using this?
41:41
Sure.
41:42
And it's such a beautiful question.
41:43
You know, when I was doing my herbology class, and the teacher went through all the
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Ayurvedic spices, there's fennel, there's fenugreek, ginger, we have cumin seeds.
41:53
We have a lot of spices.
41:54
People have never heard of in the West with white, a plethora of herbs.
41:58
When they got to turmeric, the benefits were so profound.
42:02
I thought, if you could actually do all that in one plant, why are we not using that across
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the board in Western medicine?
42:09
In Western medicine, when we go to the doctor, they have some, they always say, you have something
42:12
itis.
42:13
Anything ending initis means inflammation.
42:16
And turmeric is such a powerful anti-inflammatory.
42:18
So when I did my Ph.D., which took forever, because back then there were 10,000 scientific
42:23
studies on turmeric and now there's 17,000 scientific studies.
42:28
What I loved was turmeric's anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, anti-biral, anti-bacterial,
42:35
anti-fungal, anti-pericidic.
42:38
It gets rid of what we don't need in the gut, but keeps the good.
42:41
That's a pretty big deal.
42:43
It's antioxidant in the sense that it goes and reverses the things that are causing oxidation
42:47
in the first place.
42:48
And we know when we're aging, we're going to rust, we're going to slow down.
42:52
So the fact that it'll reverse those processes is a really big deal.
42:55
It increases nitric oxide in the system.
42:58
It impacts our sirtoins, our AMPK pathways.
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I did a whole talk at A4 and Vegas on longevity with curcumin.
43:06
There's a lot of science there as well.
43:08
And so the fact that it's like your Swiss army night and can do that much in the body
43:13
naturally without the negative side effects, to me, is very powerful.
43:17
And then from an anti-inflammatory pathway, standpoint, it's affecting NF-CAPA-B, TNF-Alpha.
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All the inner luke is cox-2, like the fact that it's impacting 30 different pathways
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so powerfully, to me, is really great because most of us are running around inflamed.
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And that chronic low rate persistent inflammation is damaging all of us.
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And my hayhouse book next year coming up is all about this, how that inflammation is
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at the root of so many of our issues, but we're so confused about how to address it.
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And here, Mother Nature created this incredible plant that just does the job.
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So I'm going to be on Pactless for just, you know, for someone who may not completely
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understand the concept of oxidation and inflammation.
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Sure.
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And that is inflammation is a cell's response to what I'll say negativity, right?
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Something is going to damage it.
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And the cell, the inflammation is the cell's way of protecting itself really.
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Right.
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Which means inflammation isn't the problem.
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Information is the body's response to a problem that we haven't removed.
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And usually that that that trigger that that cause is oxidation.
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Correct.
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And oxidative damage to the body is is caused, you know, the fact that we're sitting here
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in a climate control building is causing oxidation, right?
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And I always use the example of an oxidation is literally the opposite of longevity.
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That as oxidative damage takes place, longevity starts to fail.
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And your body knows how to deal with so much oxidation in a day.
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But when the oxidative burden becomes so much in the body,
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just can't fight that much over the course of a day that the suddenly,
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that's when they hit that point and I'll say that everybody, I think at some point,
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it's the point that you suddenly just, yeah, everybody stays young until they don't.
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Like if that makes sense, like you've just meet somebody that you're like,
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wow, what happened to you?
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Right.
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And it's like in just all of a sudden, they got old.
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Yeah.
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And I, and you know, and there's all these predictions now that it happens at this age.
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Yeah, like whenever and it is like that just happens one day.
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And I'm like, no, that doesn't just happen one day.
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It happens because tipping points happen when you're not helping the other side fight harder.
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And the more we can stav off this oxidative stress or reverse it or detox more,
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yeah, the, the, the, the longevity being keeps winning, right?
45:41
I'm literally deaf is a matter of just too much goes of oxidative stress.
45:45
Yeah, yeah, the body just ages and, and depletes.
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And, and that's what I review the saying is we can reach into the super herbs,
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super spices kit and you have so many beautiful tools from mother nature.
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And what I found interesting was out of the entire tumor plant,
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only 3% of it is the curcuminoid.
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Those curcuminoids are the piece that's doing the heavy lifting.
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And out of those curcuminoids, curcumin is the most effective at reducing inflammation.
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So I, I sat there after my PhD and I was like, okay, this is great.
46:14
Who's turmeric am I going to recommend?
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Because people were by then asking me.
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They're like, it's my knees are, but people like my knee hurts.
46:20
I was like, you should take turmeric for that.
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They're like my throat hurts.
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You should take turmeric for that.
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And my family looked at me and they're like, well, if you don't have a turmeric,
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you trust, you should just make your own.
46:29
And I said, that's insane.
46:30
Like I've never dreamt of building a supplement company.
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They're like, well, you've done your PhD on it.
46:35
You're obviously very passionate about it.
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And I'm surrounded by a family of all Western medicine doctors.
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And so they were kind of kind of goading me and they're like,
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and you think it can stand up to what we use, which can't possibly be true.
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That you think a plant is effective enough to use in our toolkits.
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And all the irrefutably it is.
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And so that's when I went out and created a missionary was.
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I wanted to prove without a doubt my point.
46:57
And so I went to my factory and I said, hey, I want to create this thing.
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And they said, you are doing this backwards.
47:03
You create supplements for profit.
47:05
Like this is a highly profitable business.
47:07
And you should create it that way.
47:08
And I said, that's not what I'm doing.
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I want to prove to all of Western medicine that every time they say something hurts
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in us, we can just use turmeric, which is a natural Ayurvedic solution.
47:18
And so that's how I built fusion of 10 years ago, I built it.
47:21
And COVID, the pandemic was a good tipping point because around that time,
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mindsets shifted.
47:27
Doctors became really open to the fact that their existing toolkit wasn't enough.
47:32
All of a sudden for the solutions that we needed.
47:34
Well, and consumers became very understanding of the fact that their health
47:38
was a matter of personal responsibility.
47:40
Correct.
47:41
And so at that time, I was sitting there and everyone called me.
47:44
They're like, we know you said to work helps in you and will you help us?
47:46
I'm like, of course, I'm happy to guide you.
47:48
Obviously, the supplement exists.
47:50
And so it's my mission to share that turmeric should be in all of our supplement
47:54
kids. When I travel my, I have like a tiny stack for travel,
47:58
compared to the whole thing that I want to carry like you.
48:01
And it's turmeric vitamin D and a probiotic with those three.
48:04
I'm covered for 90% of what could come not in my life because turmeric alone
48:09
will do the majority of the job.
48:10
Sometimes I have a separate carry on just for my, just for my health stack.
48:14
And then I like to have my katsu bands and everything else.
48:20
I'm a freak.
48:21
Oh, no, I have got to bands and watch on everything else that's all in my carry on.
48:25
I'm like, people are going to think I'm a freak.
48:27
If they ever look inside my luggage, so fusionary formulas.
48:31
Like, obviously, I'm going to start using this.
48:33
But turmeric itself anti-inflammatory, what is, so it brings down the inflammation,
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but as we just said, inflammation itself is a response.
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Sure.
48:44
What is it doing that's bringing down the inflammation?
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Because is it, is it negating the body's response?
48:50
Or is it actually intercepting a stimulus?
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You know what, when I find what I find with turmeric is because it's plant medicine,
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and because we're taking that curcumin at the correct proportion out of the plant,
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it has its own intelligence and it's adaptogenic.
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Consciousness.
49:07
So a lot of things out of IRV that are adaptogenic and adaptogenic means
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if you took ashwagandha, for example, when you're stressed and anxious,
49:14
it brings you down a few notches if you're having the blues that lifts you up.
49:17
It intelligently goes where it needs to go.
49:20
That's why I built my second formula inflammation relief
49:23
because it had all the synergistic herbs to help address inflammation and joint pain in the system.
49:28
Joint pain is a big issue and people are going to be taking NSAIDs daily chronically for years,
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which has a negative impact.
49:34
And joint pain is usually just a function of toxicity,
49:37
because toxicity doesn't naturally flow from the joint,
49:40
because the joint doesn't actually have blood flow, right?
49:43
So there's nothing to take the toxins out of the joints.
49:46
If you don't do that, you know, whether it's through, you know,
49:52
brushing, whether it's really supplementation or whatever.
49:55
The lymphatic flow, all these different practices we have,
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bouncing, walking, moving, you know, we're so sedentary as a society.
50:02
And so turmeric does go in there and is anti-inflammatory in the sense that it's going to reverse
50:07
all that negative inflammation in the system, all the excess inflammation in the system.
50:11
And like you said, because it's addressing the oxidation,
50:14
it's going in there and really healing what needs to be healed.
50:17
So the body stops sending the excess inflammatory response.
50:20
A lot of times we've heard an elbow and the body doesn't stop its inflammatory response
50:25
after it's done healing.
50:26
The body's dysregulated.
50:28
Like you said, we have a toxic burden in the system.
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Is a term that knows how to get in there.
50:32
I have found it fascinating over 10 years.
50:34
I've heard all the client stories coming in and they'll say,
50:37
well, my back hurt and you totally fix that.
50:39
I can travel, I can move, I can play golf, all those things.
50:42
But then I had gingivitis and nothing was working for that.
50:46
Or I had allergies.
50:48
I was sneezing like 20 times every time I started sneezing.
50:51
That went away.
50:52
And so to me, it's been an interesting science experiment to see
50:56
when you put something in the body that's adapted genic,
50:58
how does it go into all the places?
51:00
Because for me, it addresses the big issues,
51:02
then the medium issues, and then the small issues.
51:05
And so that's the beauty of what I've kind of seen over the last decade of it.
51:08
That's really cool.
51:09
And then I love that.
51:10
You just pointed out that it's an adapted genic.
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Because I can't be the adapted genic word was getting used a lot lately.
51:16
But specifically as it relates to like mushrooms.
51:19
But this isn't a adapted genic too.
51:22
But it's literally just means that it's an intelligent molecule
51:25
that's able to move to where it needs to be.
51:27
It adapts to whatever's going on.
51:29
So the way that it affects your body may not be the same way it affects mine.
51:32
Correct.
51:32
Because we have different ailments, we have different toxins.
51:35
You know, I was sitting in Japan just last week and I started to have a fever.
51:39
And I was like, oh, that's not good.
51:40
What happened?
51:41
What could that be?
51:42
I'll just take too much for that.
51:43
And I did, I took two.
51:45
And I was fine.
51:46
Like six hours later, eight hours later, I was like, oh, no problem.
51:49
So I use it like that.
51:50
For me, it's a very powerful immune boost.
51:52
It's always been kind of on that borderline of autoimmune leaky gut.
51:56
So I need something that I can use as a fast effect.
51:59
Well, you know, and Shilani, one of the things that you bring up
52:02
and it crosses my mind here as we're wrapping up,
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but that we're so accustomed in Western medicine that, you know,
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we have this specific problem and we have this specific solution.
52:12
As you know, I'm a marketing guy.
52:14
So when we're talking to how do we market products,
52:20
I always talk to my clients.
52:21
It's on what is the specific issue that your product addresses?
52:26
And how do you specifically resolve it?
52:29
Because that's what makes a credit card come out of a wallet, right?
52:32
But I would argue, if we say that that's not the way the human body works,
52:38
that's the way maybe our Western brains work,
52:41
if the human body is just like, let me do what I do.
52:44
Can we just help clear everything else out of the way?
52:47
If we started off talking about the Josh Axe book,
52:49
then the idea that it's not about adding something.
52:52
It's about taking something away.
52:54
And if we put in the right ingredients,
52:58
the body knows what to do.
52:59
Your body knows how to reduce a fever.
53:01
Your fevers aren't a bad thing.
53:04
Do you have your body's way of actually fighting an infection of some sort?
53:07
Like, that's a response that's not a symptom.
53:11
And if we support whether it's your tumor,
53:13
or your tumor, or any number of supplementations,
53:16
anti-oxidants, if we just get out of the way,
53:21
the body does what it does.
53:23
And we are in your intelligent creations.
53:26
And in that, I believe that we can restore ourselves back to natural house,
53:31
because we call it natural house, because it's natural, right?
53:34
It's not that the ingredients are natural.
53:36
It's that house is native to whom we are.
53:40
Like, our bodies want to survive and know how.
53:43
Absolutely.
53:44
Shabani, if people were trying to get a hold of you
53:46
or wanting to try some tumor products,
53:49
or any of the products and fusionary formulas,
53:51
where would they do so?
53:52
So, my website is my name, shabani.govic.com.
53:55
They can find all about Ayurveda there.
53:57
And then the supplement line is fusionaryformulose.com,
54:00
so F-U-S-I-O-N-A-R-Y-F-O-N-L-S-Duck.
54:04
And all of that will be down in the show notes
54:06
where you can find the links to find Dr. Shabani Gupta
54:10
as well as fusionaryformulose.com.
54:14
We'll put in a coupon code for somebody in there
54:16
if they want to try the product and give it a world.
54:18
That way they can do that.
54:20
I have my recommendations for people
54:21
anytime that they're taking a supplement.
54:23
That's what I do is I subscribe.
54:25
Yeah.
54:26
But there's no reason to take a product
54:28
and then take it for 30 days.
54:29
And I think the reason most people don't subscribe Shabani
54:33
is they end up missing a day here
54:36
and missing two days there.
54:37
And then all of a sudden they've got two extra bottles
54:39
sitting somewhere on a counter
54:40
and then they're like, oh, it's a waste
54:42
and then they want to cancel.
54:43
And it's like, my thing is subscribe
54:45
so that I never run out.
54:46
Absolutely.
54:47
And then, you know, periodically I'll skip a month
54:50
because I missed a couple days here in there, right?
54:52
And like I just did it the other day.
54:54
I went through my Amazon account and I was like,
54:55
nope, skip that month, skip that month, skip that month.
54:58
I found it easy.
54:58
Because as I was cleaning my kitchen,
54:59
I realized I had lots of extras.
55:02
Sitting around that I had missed days here
55:04
and missed days there.
55:05
And it's like, but I always recommend
55:07
to people subscribe so you don't lie out
55:09
because you don't want to find out
55:11
when you feel like without it.
55:12
True.
55:12
Yeah.
55:13
That's actually when I get the most phone calls.
55:15
People will call and say,
55:17
I ran out for a week.
55:18
Now I know what you would do for me.
55:20
Yes.
55:20
And I had no awareness before that.
55:22
And wow, I'm in pain.
55:24
And I'm like, okay, at least you know it was working now.
55:28
Yeah, those are the best testimonies, right?
55:30
The people that did without for a minute
55:31
and they realized how good it was.
55:32
Yeah.
55:33
Guys, I absolutely recommend
55:35
that you check out Fusionery formulas.
55:37
Shabani Goop has been a long-term friend of mine
55:39
and I trust anything she says.
55:42
Chloe, I've not bought her product until now
55:44
and now I feel like a bit of a heel for saying that.
55:47
Like, it's not for my lack of supplements.
55:48
It's just my lack of of knowledge or discipline
55:52
or anything else.
55:53
So now that we know,
55:55
no one's half the battle is GI Joe Vintales, right?
55:57
True.
55:59
Thanks guys for tuning in.
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And a performance driven living and we'll see you next time.