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City of Angels vs Kiss of Death · Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage

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Oh god. Oh my god.
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Fuck!
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Hey, we saw his dick this time though.
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It was a stunt dick.
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Oh, boo.
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That was 100% not Nick Cage.
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Boo.
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Which one?
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In City of Angels.
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Oh yeah.
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Welcome back to...
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He takes that very hot shower.
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Oh, oh you're talking about the shower.
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No, there was definitely a modesty sock.
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I told... I...
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Stopped it. He paused it.
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Enhance.
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Enhance.
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How else are you going to find a replicant
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unless you're looking at their dick?
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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I always look for their like backs
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glowing after I have sex with them.
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Oh wait, no, that's a Cylon.
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Wait, don't you ask them like turtle questions?
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Isn't that the trick?
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Yeah.
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Which Ninja Turtle is your favorite?
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Donatello.
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Cylon.
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This is the weirdest
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welcome back to Cage match
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colon around about way of meeting Nicholas Cage.
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But I didn't see a better...
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a better way for us to do this.
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Welcome back to our Nicholas Cage podcast.
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I am Sean,
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here with my co-host,
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and I'm Nick,
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and our producer.
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Hi, I'm Peter.
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And we talk about Nicholas Cage films
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for reasons that have not been explained to me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, okay.
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The concept of this podcast
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is that Nick and Sean are going to evaluate
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64 Nicholas Cage movies
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head-to-head,
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bracket style,
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to determine the best,
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most cagey,
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most enjoyable Nick Cage film
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at the end of this entire process.
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Yeah?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That'll be next year.
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Oh God, yeah.
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No, it's a...
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we're a ways off.
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We'll see you in 2025, Nick Cage.
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I will say, the more we get into this
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the more we keep finding
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interesting films we've never heard of
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that don't technically star Nick Cage,
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I'm regretting not putting Kick Ass on the list.
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I know.
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I do feel kind of bad
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in that regard.
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Like, there are some pretty amazing
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auxiliary Cage movies.
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In our defense, we attempted to find films
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that like, star to Nick Cage,
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and are finding through the course of history
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that his name has been retroactively added to things
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as a starring role.
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Yeah, that's definitely the case.
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I mean, I think with these two movies,
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you could make a case that he kind of
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steals one of them,
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and definitely is the main actor in the other one.
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Yes.
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I mean, he did get the and credit on
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Kiss of Dread.
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Everybody alphabetically.
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Yeah.
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And Nick Cage.
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So this week...
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Because even his name defies order.
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That is actually something I want to talk about this week.
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His name?
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Him defying order.
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Nicholas.
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That's a good name.
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A fine name, strong,
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upstanding.
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Yeah, law-abiding.
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Gurfy.
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A meaty dork of a name.
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Yeah, dude.
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You guys say I'm bad at segues.
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This week, we are talking about...
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Oh, yeah, you couldn't even segue out of that.
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What a loser.
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City of Angels, everyone's favorite movie
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about God and angels.
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We're going to talk about God and angels this week.
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We already bumped into
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we already bumped left behind, didn't we?
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Yeah, we did.
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Yeah.
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These two should have been together.
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Because there is not...
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They will be in the end.
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There's not...
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There's not a through line for these two films.
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So we're doing City of Angels and Kiss of Death,
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a movie I've honestly never heard of.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone actually heard of Kiss of Death,
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which is shocking given the amount of like...
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The star power.
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...talent in there.
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It's got a lot of people in it.
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All right.
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Well, let's start there.
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Kiss of Death.
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What year did this come out?
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95.
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95. It was filmed in 94.
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All right.
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So, yeah.
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I'm going no notes on this.
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So, yeah, let's see what happens.
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Who was the director?
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Dude.
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Yeah, you got it.
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I think he was Swedish.
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It was Barbay Schroeder.
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Yeah, he's like a Swedish-American or something like that.
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The set designer was named Mel Bourne.
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Yeah, that was pretty good.
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That's pretty good.
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I thought that was funny.
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Nick Cage is the and of this film and Nick Cage.
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So he's not the star.
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This film stars David Caruso.
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And this was his like jumping off point
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to try and start a legit film career.
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Left NYPD Blue for this thing.
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He did.
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Run through the main people in this movie
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because it's pretty fucking amazing.
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David Caruso, Nicholas Cage, Samuel L. Jackson, Stanley Tucci.
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We got the return of the Tucci.
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And Hot Mean Tucci too.
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Hot Mean Tucci, Michael Rapoport, creepy Michael Rapoport,
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young Michael Rapoport.
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I like saying Rapoport.
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Ving Rhames.
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Have you ever watched those videos Michael Rapoport does online
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where he's like got that really ugly cat?
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Yes.
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And he's just like, come look, that cat's back.
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That fucking cat.
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That's a good Rapoport.
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Are you shocked that Nick does a good Rapoport?
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No, I shouldn't be at this point.
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Philip Baker Hall, Helen Hunt.
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And this is a throwaway role, but I just find it fascinating.
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And I want to talk about this with you guys.
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Hope Davis.
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So this was one of Hope Davis's first film roles.
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Hope Davis is my weird celebrity crush.
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Who's Hope Davis?
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She was a junior Brown's girlfriend.
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Little junior Brown's girlfriend.
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Oh, the one he bench presses.
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Yeah.
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Oh, OK.
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Yeah, I got it.
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Yeah.
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And then she's the one who like.
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The one who calls him a slur.
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Distracts the feds to kidnap the baby or the little girl.
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What was yours, Peter?
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OK, so my favorite one is Kevin Corrigan, who is.
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I didn't know you had a crush on Kevin Corrigan.
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Oh, of course.
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No, I love Kevin Corrigan.
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I think his acting career is exactly what I would want from an acting career.
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It's like you're never really the main star, but you're in everything
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and you're always kind of a shitty slimeball.
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He's the guy that's selling him the Infinity.
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And like that guy, it's like he's got like a cool diverse background.
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But like if you need an Italian who's sleazy, Kevin Corrigan,
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if you need a Puerto Rican who's sleazy, Kevin Corrigan,
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if you need an Irishman who's sleazy, Kevin Corrigan, it fucking rules.
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That guy is perfect for being a shitty sleazy dude.
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Nick, what weird celebrity crush do you have in this film?
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Michael Rapoport.
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Yeah, Rapoport.
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Just really got me there.
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So yeah, Nick, what's this movie about?
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So this movie is about Caruso's dude who.
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Jimmy Kilmartin.
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Yeah, who is trying to go on the straight and narrow.
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He used to boost cars and he gets pulled back into the scene
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by his cousin played by Michael Rapoport.
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Ronnie Gannon.
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Like a real piece of shit.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's fucking terrible.
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That's what makes it so hot.
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They get like pinched on a job trying to steal like four transport trucks
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of vehicles.
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I mean, it would have been fine if they staggered it.
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I'm sure. Why the fuck did they just like four of them in a row
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riding down because they were running late?
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Yeah, they were working for Nicolas Cage.
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Yeah. OK.
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Fucking bad little a little little Junior Brown.
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Yeah. But I do like that.
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He teaches us what an acronym is.
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That is the son of Big Junior Brown.
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Yeah. Credited Big Junior Brown.
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And who played him again?
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That was a name.
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So to look bigger. Oh, yeah.
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That was great.
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Yeah, I like him as an actor just in general.
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He played a good shitty old man.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, he didn't have to do much.
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He just kind of looked around and sneered and stuff.
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So but he gets pinched boost in, you know, these transport trucks of cars
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and gets what three years in jail finds out like what Michael Rapoport
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like tried to bang his wife and stuff while he was in jail and his wife died.
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And so like he thinks that Rapoport like boned his wife and then she died
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because of it.
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And so he puts into action this plan that gets Rapoport killed by giving
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up information on himself and a couple other jobs and makes it all look
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like Ronnie was a snitch.
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So Little Junior, Junior Little Junior Brown has him killed and then he
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does the murder.
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Yeah, Big Junior has him killed Little Junior punches his face.
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That's fair.
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Then when David Caruso gets out of jail, the DA Tucci is like leaning
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on him and has him go undercover with a wire to find more information
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about Little Junior Brown and this guy Omar played by Ving Rhames that
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gets him mixed up in all sorts of crazy shenanigans.
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Eventually he has to get his way out and that I guess results in Nick
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Cage dying and like gunfights and stuff.
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I think there was a car jump too.
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Okay.
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Well, wait, did Cage die?
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No, he didn't.
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Half of that was fake.
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Did you watch this movie?
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I watched it twice.
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It's fair.
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It's got a lot of nothing.
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Oh, I mean, it's got more than nothing.
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No, it's I actually thoroughly enjoyed the film, but I like a caper.
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No, I thought this movie was fun.
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I really enjoyed Nick Cage as a heel.
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Yeah, we never seen a cage as the bad guy.
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Yeah, good antagonist energy in this.
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His first scene there when Caruso shows up the driver they got is drunk
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at the wheel.
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So Nick Cage just walks up grabs the guy by his collar and throws him
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from the cab of the truck into another truck and it is a single shot.
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Yeah, they don't pull the way Nick Cage just yeeted a guy out of a truck
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cap into another truck.
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Nick Cage did a like daily workouts.
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Like he was getting himself all jacked up for this and like what was
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it after this?
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Oh Con Air.
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So like these two movies were like his biggest bulkiest.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he looks big in this one.
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Yeah, I think it's interesting because he bench-pressed a girl 40 times.
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He did.
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He got the record.
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Yeah, you know, he does play like he's a he's a villain.
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He's the bad guy, but he's also sort of like heart of gold.
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He philosophizes.
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He philosophizes.
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He definitely like tried to look out for Helen Hunt when Rappaport was
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being a total piece of shit.
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So yeah, Rappaport is Jimmy's cousin.
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Little Junior is going to kill Rappaport if Jimmy doesn't help him out
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on this one job.
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According to Ronnie.
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According to Ronnie, but he does it gets pinched by Detective Samuel
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L. Jackson who gets shot in the face by the drunk guy.
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Yeah, but it's only a glancing blow.
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Yeah, but I'm like that's a glancing blow because it fucked up his eye.
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All right, that works.
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Yeah, it was a little bit of a stretch, but it's fine.
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So once he's in jail Ronnie Rappaport shows up and he goes to Helen
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Hunt who plays Jimmy's wife and just like, oh, here's 150.
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It's all I can get for you, but you can come work for me if you want.
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Yeah, he's like, I'm paying you out of my own pocket and everything.
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And then we later find out that big juniors like you're giving her the
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400 a week, right?
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He's like, oh, yeah, of course.
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And then he's like give her a car and then he's like, hey girl, I want to
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get you a car.
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He's a real slimeball.
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And then yeah, Little Junior is like take her home.
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And he's like, okay, it's like her home.
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Yeah, my father says take her home now.
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Fuck.
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Oh, that's so good.
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That's okay.
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So that scene in the strip club has my favorite line, which I just want to
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get out now because I don't want to know us to steal it, which is when
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the big rain first shows up and Nick Cage goes.
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Hey, what's the what?
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Yeah, that was actually also my favorite line.
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So I'm glad I said the fuck.
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Oh one.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, mine comes later so I can save it.
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But yeah, so Jimmy served some time.
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Rappaport continues to like ply Helen Hunt with booze and she wakes up
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in his skeezy apartment.
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Oh, yeah.
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And she's like a recovering alcoholic.
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She's in AA.
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I almost said AAA.
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That wouldn't have worked.
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And she's like, she's have her outside assistance for that.
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They should though.
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It would be nice.
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It would solve a lot of people's problems.
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No shit.
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But she doesn't drink.
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She sees Rappaport try and put a lead pipe through someone's head and
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that freaks her out so she starts drinking again immediately.
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Mm-hmm.
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And rolling rock of all things.
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Great.
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Right.
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And that was also Kevin Corrigan.
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So there we are.
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It all comes around and then she tries to get out of there.
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Get out of his place and she peels out in his car almost hits another
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car and then head on collision with a semi truck.
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Okay.
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So there's a semi in a residential area and how was it possibly going
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fast enough that it killed her?
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These are two movies where sorry spoiler alert for later, but two
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people die in the dumbest fucking semi accident protagonist wives.
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Although this is a bad time.
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So and then Jimmy's let out of prison to go to the funeral.
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I mean, he's in cuffs and there's like guards there.
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I think one of my favorite notes that I have on here and I don't even
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remember exactly what caused it, but I just wrote no big shock.
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Cops are pieces of shit.
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Oh man.
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Yeah, the cops fucking sucked.
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So when he finds out that his wife never went home was at Jimmy's
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place, he drops the dime on a bunch of jobs.
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He was involved with and mentions everyone but Ronnie.
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So when it gets back up the chain, everyone thinks Ronnie's a snitch.
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Hence why he gets his face punched in.
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Mm-hmm.
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I don't know.
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We're talking about we're talking about shitty cops.
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So his one deal for that was he gets to go visit his daughter.
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Sam Jackson shows up blames Jimmy for getting shot in the head, even
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though Jimmy tried to stop the shooting and like got shot in the
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hand and Sam Jackson like take the cuffs off and then like proceeds
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to like beat him up a bit rough him up.
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That's what it was.
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That was my note.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The cops were shit.
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Pretty standard operating procedure.
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Yeah, but when he finally gets out of prison, they wire him up to
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go they want to get Omar to connect him to Junior who's dead.
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I want to talk about the scene where oh yeah, oh man.
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That was so good.
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Nick Cage frantically jumping up and down while crying and punching
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at a fake plant.
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Yeah, just fucking getting his energy out expressing himself.
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Junior.
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I mean, this is Nick Cage podcast.
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Let's just talk about Junior.
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This is the weirdest character.
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He's got so many things.
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You get one thing.
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You get one defining characteristic.
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This guy's got like four.
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He's got a sweet goatee.
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Sweet goatee.
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Strong boy.
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Wears white all the time.
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Track suits.
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When he's lifting when he's lifting when he's doing the 40 bench
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presses of the lady, his tank top has cutouts in the side.
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Oh, yeah, that's such a weird one.
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Yeah, it's like super tight and it's got little windows so you
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can look at his lats, but he also has asthma asthma and he hates
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the taste of metal.
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No silverware for Nick Cage.
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Yeah, so he only has plastic.
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Which is apparently directly from the script that wasn't like a
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weird choice he made and he's a philosophizer.
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Nick, do you want to do a dramatic reading with me real quick?
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Oh, sure.
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All right.
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I have an acronym for myself.
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You know what it is?
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Bad BAD.
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Balls attitude direction.
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You should give yourself an acronym because it helps you visualize
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your goals.
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How about fab?
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Fucked at birth.
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No good.
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Too negative.
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Yeah, that was my favorite quote where he just says too negative
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because he like put some real thought into it.
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Yeah, is that going to work?
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Is that a good one?
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No, no good.
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Too negative.
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Did you guys notice that his inhaler was bedazzled with the BAD?
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Yeah, you see that at the end.
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Nick Cage described his character as like a big terrible baby.
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Yes, it's pretty pretty spot-on.
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That's incredible.
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Like he's just got a very innocent kind of like nature about him
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like mentally kind of naive and innocent and but then just like
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throws tantrums and can't handle not getting his way about stuff.
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Nick Cage steals the show in this movie.
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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Well, I'm not going to lie.
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I thought Caruso did great.
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I think especially the scenes where he's like just talking to either
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little junior or the cops.
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He plays exasperated and like no fucks to give so well in this movie.
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Like he's just like I don't fucking care.
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We're just going to do this job and I'm going to go.
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You can't do anything to me.
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Yeah, no, he's good.
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Like all the performances are good.
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There's not a bad performance in this film.
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I think the only one that didn't like do anything for me was Ving
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Rames because he was just sort of like a coked out dude.
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Yeah, I mean he was so background.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh and the big twist is a junior kills Ving Rames in front of Jimmy
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and it turns out that Omar was a fed.
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Yeah, and like all of his gang bangers were feds and then and then
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you know legality.
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Yeah, then it becomes a court.
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Yeah, the feds don't want to prosecute because they have to give up a
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bunch of secret information.
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So they pretty much leave Jimmy twist in the wind drop him from
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witness protection and he has to go get the solved himself.
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Oh and Tucci sells him out because he'll get a federal judgeship for it.
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Yeah, I really like slimy Tucci.
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I think that's probably my favorite version of him.
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Yeah, I think it came across real well.
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I liked it a lot.
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He played it.
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Well, it was a good character.
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Do do I just like dirtbags?
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Yeah, maybe fuck.
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All right.
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I mean you like us.
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Yeah, true.
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It's fair and me.
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Like me.
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I got a real solid question.
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What is up with Caruso Jimmy and Rose Rose the babysitter?
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Yeah, Rose was the babysitter when he was still married to Helen
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Hunter, whatever.
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Yeah, she lived upstairs from them or whatever with her parents.
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She was the babysitter.
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Yeah, and would babysit for him whenever they were at a meetings.
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Then he goes to jail.
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His wife gets killed in an accident.
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And so Rose continues to like help raise the baby, even though the
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baby is now with the mother-in-law.
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Yeah.
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And then when he gets out, she's like, you've always got me.
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And then it's like, oh fuck.
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And then they get married right away.
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Wait immediately courthouse wedding.
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You married the babysitter that you only know from like raising your child.
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Yeah, I think it's strange.
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I this movie is an hour and 40 minutes and I think that it was just a
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lack of time to develop that relationship.
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But at that point, I'm like, why bother?
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I'm going to assume I know the answer to this, but did either of you
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guys watch the 1940 whatever version of this movie?
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No, no, I watched a couple clips.
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Did you watch anything?
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Not for this one.
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So I did.
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It's rated really well.
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It's supposed to be a great movie.
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Yeah, I did love that.
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So he's in prison for three years and the only person whose appearance
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changes in that three years is Rose.
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Like they change her hair and they, you know, get an older child.
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Yeah, I was going to say the child pretty well.
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Cruises the same haircut.
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Nick Cage has the same goatee.
19:46
Like no one else updated their look in three years.
19:48
Once you hit a certain age in your life, though, I think you've got
19:52
your look on lockdown.
19:53
Like if I tried to do it, if I like started to live my life without
19:57
sideburns, like even mild sideburns as they are, it'd be weird.
20:03
Nobody would like me.
20:04
I just got this guy who thought he could go on living without sideburns
20:08
and everybody would know when they look at me.
20:10
They'd be like, I mean, I've gone through a fairly drastic like
20:13
facial hair appearance in the last year.
20:16
Wish you'd keep trying.
20:17
Mean if you would finally figure out your look, I could finally
20:24
stop drinking.
20:24
I love it.
20:29
Oh, this is a strange content to forget.
20:31
Your face makes me sad.
20:33
I love you too, Nick.
20:35
What did you guys think of Cage's accent in this one?
20:39
It wasn't a Boston like cop and it wasn't Gumby.
20:44
So well, I watched an interview in the cage about this film
20:47
and he was talking about how the interviewer asked him like this
20:50
isn't your normal weird character that you normally do and he went
20:54
on this whole thing about how Hollywood's memory is so short that
20:57
Fox didn't want him for this film because Nick Cage is a weird
21:01
funny man.
21:02
He can't do he can't do tough guy and now I'm worried that I'll
21:06
never be able to like do comedy again.
21:07
You know, it's funny.
21:08
We've seen him in tough guy roles several times now and I never
21:13
am really sold on him as a tough guy.
21:16
This one kind of worked for me.
21:18
Yeah, other than the fact that he also like hedged it with being
21:21
sort of a sensitive tough guy.
21:22
Yeah, but I mean that's one of the things that really drew him
21:25
to this character from what I read, but I'm thinking of his
21:28
the beginning of face-off castor Troy the only other time we've
21:32
seen him kind of be a bad guy and it's more of a cult of personality
21:35
and more of a sleazy look at me character rather than being
21:39
fucking brick shit house.
21:40
Sure.
21:41
Do you know what he filmed right before this?
21:43
This was 1995.
21:45
Yeah, it could happen to you.
21:47
It could happen to you.
21:48
Yeah, what a weird so he felt like he filmed back-to-back in
21:51
New York.
21:52
It could happen to you was before this.
21:54
That was a big body change.
21:57
Yeah.
21:57
Yeah, no shit.
21:58
He's pretty big in this.
21:59
Yeah, and and Harry this came out the same year as he won his
22:03
Oscar because this came out the same year as leaving Las Vegas.
22:06
Any other interesting facts?
22:08
I don't have a ton on this one.
22:10
So in the interview, I watched with him about it.
22:12
Can we all agree that Kate doesn't give a great interview?
22:14
It depends on how much coke he can afford because he's given
22:18
some really good ones.
22:19
Okay, this wasn't one of those but he was asked about famously
22:23
playing weirdos and giving very over-the-top performances and
22:28
this quote stuck out to me.
22:29
It's like about little Junior Brown and how much of that
22:33
character he brought to the script and he's like, it's true
22:35
that I stuck to the script, but I do try to put a bit of absurd
22:39
almost comic slant on things even kind of peak his career
22:44
mid-90s.
22:45
He knows what he's selling and has leaned into it.
22:50
This was a pretty straightforward movie and character for him.
22:55
Yeah, it was definitely a memorable performance.
22:59
I will never forget him bench pressing that girl.
23:02
I'll never forget him like chucking a guy across a truck yard
23:09
and his best goatee yet.
23:10
Oh, absolutely.
23:12
Also Sternenbush.
23:13
So you're tracking this is this just is mid-90s just peak
23:17
chest hair absolutely.
23:18
Okay.
23:18
Yep.
23:19
So his his strip club is called baby cakes, baby cakes.
23:23
Yeah, which really did not make me happy.
23:27
I loved it.
23:29
I love the name.
23:30
I love the sign.
23:31
I love that the actual location was just like an abandoned
23:36
like business lot next to a McDonald's and it's abandoned
23:41
to this day.
23:41
Yeah, they put up this and shot the movie and nobody's done
23:44
anything with it.
23:45
The TV version of this obviously has a bunch of fuzzing out
23:48
and black bars of the strippers, but there's a scene where
23:53
he's talking to Caruso and there is just a topless stripper
23:56
behind them and they've digitally put a dress on her.
23:59
Did you of all the things why would you put a dress?
24:02
Did you somehow watch this like on TV?
24:05
No, it's just one of the fun facts about online.
24:07
Okay.
24:08
Oh, yeah, this movie was hard to find.
24:10
Basically impossible to find unless you want to buy a VHS.
24:13
How much was the VHS neck?
24:15
I haven't purchased it yet.
24:17
Are you going to?
24:18
Yeah, we need a complete collection.
24:20
Yeah, I'm over halfway on all of these movies.
24:23
So and actually we're almost halfway through the whole fucking
24:27
shebang.
24:28
Yeah, well the first round first round shebang.
24:31
You're all stuck with us for more shebang.
24:33
Shebang Arang.
24:35
I don't know what that means.
24:37
Fuck move on.
24:38
Yeah, City of Angels.
24:39
Yeah, that's a movie.
24:40
I see that.
24:41
That's how you fucking segue.
24:42
You're going to take that Sean.
24:44
You're going to rip on my side.
24:45
These movies have no connection whatsoever.
24:48
Actually, they're both based off or both remakes of movies.
24:53
That's a loose connection.
24:55
I don't know.
24:56
It's a real Nick Cage's outside of a strip club in both of them.
25:00
It's fair.
25:01
God damn it.
25:02
No, I'm slipping.
25:03
City of Angels.
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Nick Cage is a fucking angel.
25:06
Nick Cage is a national treasure.
25:08
End statement.
25:10
So a movie about Nick Cage being a creepy stalker.
25:14
Okay, first I want to say I watched 80% of the movie that this is a remake of.
25:22
How was that?
25:23
It is mid 80s Berlin and black and white.
25:30
It is hard.
25:32
It's all subtitled.
25:33
It's Soviet era Berlin and you think all the voiceover from like the people's thoughts
25:40
was like annoying in the Nick Cage one.
25:45
Watch it in German where you have to read it.
25:48
The movie starts off with a mother freaking out because her daughter has a high fever
25:53
and you just hear oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit and you notice the woman's not saying
25:57
anything like she's not moving her mouth.
25:59
So there's no context yet.
26:00
So there's just voiceover and then Nick Cage just sitting in a
26:03
trench coat with a scarf and a mesh shirt in this child's bedroom.
26:08
He had a mesh shirt on.
26:10
Yeah, I don't think that's right.
26:12
Yeah, I was gonna say I don't remember this.
26:14
Like did he just get out of dirt club?
26:15
It's like very fine.
26:17
It's a weird shirt.
26:18
It's very textured.
26:19
I think he wears the same clothes until he becomes human and then he has the same clothes
26:23
again until like he gets someone else's clothes until Nick Offerman gets him off that roof.
26:29
Damn it.
26:29
All right.
26:30
You guys did notice.
26:31
Wait, is Nick Offerman in this?
26:32
Yeah, man.
26:33
He was the construction worker.
26:34
Holy shit.
26:36
All right.
26:36
God.
26:37
Oh, yeah.
26:37
This movie.
26:38
We'll touch base on that because that's my favorite quote.
26:40
This movie.
26:40
Is it yours?
26:42
No, I don't think I have it.
26:44
This one wasn't great for us, but no this movie automatically wins.
26:46
So solely so I could watch it again to see Nick Offerman.
26:50
Yeah, it's like you can watch it again on your own time.
26:52
I don't want to.
26:55
Oh, yeah, we were watching it and Josie was like that was Nick Offerman.
26:58
I was like who?
26:59
Who are you talking about?
27:00
He's like the construction worker and then I had to look it up.
27:03
And it sure as shit was.
27:04
Nick Cage plays everyone's favorite angel Seth.
27:09
Yeah.
27:09
Okay.
27:10
Yeah, right.
27:10
You've got Cassiel.
27:12
His best friend played by Andrew Bauer is Cassiel.
27:16
So I want to know I was a terrible Catholic.
27:19
I was kicked out of Sunday school as a child.
27:21
So I didn't really pay attention or read anything.
27:24
Anyone else who was maybe raised closer to the church.
27:27
Tell me who Seth is supposed to be.
27:29
Oh, it's Setharian.
27:31
I'm assuming that's bullshit.
27:33
Of course it is.
27:35
No, you can come to me for all of your religious based commentary.
27:39
I would come to you if we were talking about like angels described by the Bible where they're just like wings and eyes.
27:45
Okay, but like nice.
27:47
Sethandriel.
27:49
Isn't that what I just said?
27:51
Was it?
27:51
Yeah, you're late.
27:52
God damn it.
27:54
My brain is not working.
27:55
I don't like this.
27:58
So he plays Sethandria.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Sethandria.
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Say it's sexy.
28:04
Now you got it.
28:06
This movie just this movie starts off as a late 90s YouTube music video.
28:12
This movie starts off with the worst green screening since driving.
28:16
Yeah, it's the Humanity Bureau.
28:19
Awful.
28:20
Yeah, Cassiel and Seth just sitting on a highway sign in LA and it's.
28:26
These are like direct ports of like shots from the from Wings of Desire.
28:31
I'm sure it is.
28:32
It's like that's a better name for this movie too.
28:34
Yeah.
28:35
Well, not when you say it in German.
28:37
What's it in German?
28:40
Drop down in the comments and and tell Nick.
28:42
Yeah, give me some garbledy gook that looks like German for Wings of Desire.
28:47
Oh, also, I'm sorry.
28:48
I thought I knew where comments were, but I don't think comments are a thing.
28:52
No.
28:53
So find us on Reddit.
28:54
Yeah.
28:55
And comment there.
28:56
We're not going to tell you where to find us.
28:58
We're cage match pod on Reddit.
29:00
There's there's doxing us already.
29:03
There's comments on YouTube.
29:04
People don't leave them, but they're there.
29:06
Yeah, you can.
29:07
I mean, the bots didn't do anything.
29:09
So my question is, just everyone just have an angel.
29:12
Like there are so many angels just hang out for no reason.
29:16
I don't think it's like specific angels for specific people from.
29:19
I mean, I know it's not based on the movie based on the two movies that I mostly watch.
29:24
So the angels hang out and they like meet people when they die.
29:27
And okay, let's talk about this interview questions.
29:30
It's very confusing.
29:31
So like he's a guide and that part makes sense to me, right?
29:34
Like the little girl is going to die.
29:36
Somebody else is going to die.
29:37
He helps them get through that little girl gets to see her dead body.
29:40
Right. Super creepy, but she seems chill about it.
29:43
But then there's the other scene where Cassiel and Seth are in the bodega and they just like chill out a potential shooting.
29:52
Like are they there to be coolers?
29:54
Like I don't understand what the fuck the angels are there for.
29:56
They're not chilling it out. They're just like they're just peeping on people.
29:58
They're just getting people's.
29:59
Well, he does help him like no.
30:01
Yeah, he calms him down and he touches him and gets cool.
30:04
He touches him and then he's just hearing the guy's thoughts, but they're not actually.
30:08
Oh, he's never had to touch them to hear their thoughts.
30:10
I know. But yeah, I think I think that they're doing something.
30:14
So like are they there to deescalate shit?
30:16
But then like why aren't they doing more stuff?
30:18
And then fucking fuck you, Seth.
30:20
You're just going to go like get horny with a doctor instead of doing your job.
30:24
A million dollar Christian question too.
30:26
Like why aren't they doing more?
30:27
What are these angels doing more?
30:30
The million dollar Christian question is what's the deal Seth?
30:33
Seth Andriel. His full fucking name.
30:36
Oh, no, we know his full name.
30:37
We'll talk about that later.
30:39
The worst Kaiser So-Say ever.
30:42
Oh, yeah, I love.
30:44
Now we're going to talk about it now and you're going to edit it in later.
30:46
No, I'm not.
30:47
So so Seth falls in love falls in love with a doctor, which is again,
30:52
the rules of angels because they can't feel anything physical,
30:56
but they seem to have a full bevy of emotion.
30:59
And he finds out that he can become human if he falls.
31:02
This is going to be my weird tangent for this movie.
31:04
So I saw this movie at the age of about what year did this come out?
31:08
Ninety eight.
31:09
Thirteen, fourteen. Whenever this came out, I saw this.
31:11
I was trying to impress a girl. She wanted to go see it.
31:13
So we went and saw it. I was young and dumb.
31:16
It's been 20 odd years since I've seen this film.
31:18
Dennis Franz bald old guy with mustache.
31:20
I have just in my mind had Ron Jeremy as that character.
31:25
Oh, God. I mean, in my head for 24 years, he is like the NYPD blue version of Ron Jeremy.
31:33
I mean, he is. But like that has been the face of I know you're not there,
31:38
but I can feel you. Yeah.
31:41
Did you guys ever notice that Nick Cage and Ray Fiennes look really similar?
31:45
No, but now that you mention it, I do want to point out the hardest working actor in this film,
31:50
which is Nick Cage's hair plugs. Ray Fiennes.
31:53
Is that Ray Fiennes? He's a he was Voldemort and like Schindler's List and Red Dragon.
31:59
And Voldemort and Schindler's List. Yeah, in Schindler's List.
32:03
It was a weird one. And also in Maiden Manhattan.
32:06
That makes sense.
32:07
I distinctly remember Schindler's List being credited.
32:11
He's he's he's the bad guy in Imbruge, which here's my favorite cinematic quote ever.
32:17
Yelling, yelling at his wife. You're a fucking inanimate object.
32:22
That's nice. Yeah.
32:24
This is a weird episode. That's fine.
32:27
The weird movies. These are weird movies.
32:29
And really, the less we talk about City of Angels, the better the episode is for it.
32:33
Meg Ryan's a doctor who can't believe that someone would die on her watch
32:36
because she did everything and Seth falls in love with her.
32:39
But she's a cool doc. She rides a bike bike.
32:41
Oh, so first, first bike scene.
32:44
She is playing very Lucy Goosey and Laze Faire with like L.A.
32:48
traffic City of Angels foreshadowing.
32:50
Yeah. She later dies for being dumb on a bike.
32:54
Yeah. Spoilers. This movie's not good.
32:56
I don't care. It's not.
32:58
It's bottom three Nicolas Cage movies for me.
33:00
So it takes 40 minutes to introduce the protagonist.
33:04
They give them 30 minutes to for to will they won't they?
33:07
And then 10 minutes after they get together, they kill Meg Ryan off.
33:11
And they've got that stupid relationship between Meg Ryan and that other doctor.
33:16
And it's just like, what the fuck?
33:18
Sean, did you know who he is?
33:20
He looked familiar. He's he's he's he's he's Schindler's List.
33:24
You know, he's Reginald Hargreaves in the Umbrella Academy.
33:27
Oh, that's why. Oh, fuck.
33:29
It's been 20 odd years.
33:31
That's awesome. People don't age as well.
33:33
And the cage on point.
33:35
Schindler's List less so kind of amazing because, yeah, like that dude looks old as fuck.
33:40
And Cage looks like a guy in his 50s, a guy who can afford to keep it up.
33:47
Oh, yeah. He keeps it up.
33:49
Oh, fuck. Right back to that shower scene.
33:53
OK, let's talk about Dennis Franz character Nathaniel Messenger.
33:57
OK, not messing her.
33:58
It's a soft chain messenger.
34:00
Yeah, he's a big body surfer. Yeah.
34:02
Turns out. So he has to have like heart surgery.
34:05
And it turns out that he at one point was also an angel.
34:08
He's the one who teaches Nick Cage how to fall.
34:11
You make the decision, then you fall. Fall.
34:15
Well, I don't think angels are super creative since they've never had like that inspiration.
34:20
So in my head, he was just like super literal about it.
34:23
He's like, I don't know, you got to fall from grace.
34:27
So jump off. You got to fall.
34:29
They spend a lot of time on top of shit, too.
34:32
Yeah, like they're always up high.
34:33
Which I find OK, I like how they did justify that you have to make the decision to fall
34:38
because I'm like, what if you trip?
34:40
Well, you guys are I mean, you guys are always walking in unison,
34:43
like not paying attention where you're going.
34:45
I would have loved to see some angels just walking up the side of a building.
34:48
They're everywhere. I feel like there was some shot that included them on the side of a building
34:53
or at least angels in the background.
34:55
There were definitely lots of scenes where like it zooms out a little bit
34:59
and there's just like an angel on a balcony or something over the place.
35:02
So this but I don't know, maybe maybe a Spider-Man.
35:06
I'm confused.
35:07
Seth gets obsessed with Meg Ryan's character.
35:11
Dr. Maggie Rice starts stalking her.
35:14
Like her name, there's like a prolonged bubble bath sequence
35:18
where he's just in her room or in her bathroom.
35:20
Jesus. OK, so the song that's playing.
35:22
Oh, my God. The Paula Cole song.
35:24
Like, holy fuck, you make me feel like the Amazon's running between my thighs.
35:30
Incredible. It's talking about like flowers and like stamens and shit.
35:35
And it's like, oh, this is like grossly sexy.
35:39
So he's he's Nick Cage is stalking Meg Ryan.
35:41
The weirdest boner right now.
35:45
Literally, he starts.
35:46
He starts showing up and like making himself be seen by her.
35:49
And they go out a few times.
35:51
He's exposing himself to her.
35:53
He is. He's got that trench coat. It's great.
35:55
She describes a pair to him.
35:58
Eventually, she finds out that he doesn't have a history or isn't a person.
36:02
She sees him like badly CG cut through his own hand and not bleed.
36:06
Yeah, she tries to see does the magic thumb trick.
36:08
Yeah, I just just want it to be known that Nick just tried to do a visual gag for
36:15
an auditory form of entertainment.
36:19
Fuck you all do it again.
36:21
So she in this scene, they go to a picnic with Nathaniel Messinger
36:27
after he gets out of the hospital.
36:29
And Nathaniel, knowing that Seth is an angel, makes up a bunch of backstory for Seth.
36:34
So Dr. Maggie doesn't like cotton on.
36:38
And then she grills Seth about it.
36:40
She's like, I don't even know your last name is like, you don't need to know.
36:42
It's like, what's your last name?
36:43
And he just looks behind and goes, plate.
36:47
Seth plate. Yeah, that is my favorite quote.
36:50
Just Seth plate like the worst Kaiser.
36:53
So say ever. I do like that.
36:54
It comes back though later when she's like,
36:56
oh, I can't wait to become Mr.
36:57
and Mrs. Plate.
37:01
That'd be so good.
37:03
Like if she actually took that name for like the 30 minutes, they were married.
37:08
Well, they never get there.
37:09
No. Yeah. Spoilers.
37:11
So they break up because he's a big old weirdo can't bleed.
37:17
And he's like, I'm different from you.
37:18
And then she's like, I never want to see you again.
37:20
So they stop seeing each other.
37:21
And then she starts hanging out with Messenger and being like,
37:24
why would God allow us to meet if we couldn't be together?
37:27
It's like no one ever told you he was an angel.
37:29
That makes no sense.
37:31
But she taught him what a pair was.
37:32
So I guess they have a deeper connection.
37:34
Yeah. Describe it to me like Hemingway.
37:36
Yeah. Also, the Hemingway quote they use to describe food is the worst quote
37:41
because Hemingway just says the name of the food five times.
37:45
It's like it tastes like oysters.
37:47
The way that oysters taste, that oyster taste.
37:51
That was only three.
37:53
Oyster slur.
37:54
Yeah. Oh, good.
37:55
Thank you.
37:56
We definitely saw Dennis Franz's balls.
37:59
Oh, yeah.
38:00
No, this is very, very similar to Sean Penn's balls.
38:04
OK, yeah.
38:05
But better.
38:06
Into the ocean.
38:07
Because it's Dennis Franz.
38:08
Also, NYPD Blue.
38:10
Yeah.
38:11
So that's our other connection.
38:12
NYPD Blue.
38:13
Absolutely.
38:15
So Seth has been studying humanity for like as long as humanity has existed.
38:20
He can literally read Meg Ryan's mind.
38:22
And he has no clue how to interact with her.
38:24
He and Andre Brower, when they're talking about him taking the fall,
38:29
and he's like, can you even imagine to taste water?
38:32
And then Andre Brower is like, to feed a dog.
38:37
I love Andre Brower.
38:38
There's so many things that like if you've never done it.
38:44
Please continue.
38:44
Can you imagine to crack a sparkle, buddy?
38:46
I can't.
38:47
Whoa.
38:49
To tell a lie.
38:51
And Seth tells Cassiel about the fall.
38:55
Sethandriel.
38:56
Sethandriel.
38:56
And Cassie Lela Graham.
39:00
Casserole is.
39:01
I don't think you have to do anything to Cassiel.
39:03
That's a pretty fucking angel name.
39:06
Cassie was immediately just like, so you going to do it?
39:08
I want to see how this goes.
39:10
Let's talk about the fall scene, because that's where we get.
39:12
That's where I was about to go.
39:14
Because so Nick Cage is on the top of a building being constructed
39:18
and does a full with arms wide open.
39:20
They probably had like, wait, was that the song that was playing?
39:23
No, no, because the music on this was so fucking annoyingly.
39:27
With arms wide open doesn't come out.
39:29
Didn't come out for a few more years.
39:30
Oh, OK.
39:31
Well, there was some song about like, oh, in the arms of an angel
39:35
or some shit like that.
39:36
Yeah, that's a different one.
39:37
So they were this one was just orchestral with like angelic choir.
39:41
So here's my question, Nick.
39:43
You might be able to answer this.
39:44
So I'm a Glockman.
39:45
God damn it. You got there.
39:46
No, when he jumps, it starts cutting to like black
39:49
and white footage of children playing.
39:51
Is that the actual movie?
39:52
The original movie?
39:54
That's a good question, because I was like, what the fuck is this?
39:56
It's super art house.
39:57
It's like, here's people going onto a train.
39:59
Yeah, that here's a pregnant belly.
40:02
Since I'd have to see it again.
40:05
The art style of Wings of Desire was very, very, very, very German art house.
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Yeah. So unlike anything to do with this movie,
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which had very few interesting creative choices.
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You're not wrong that it doesn't have a lot of like interesting shit to say.
40:21
I do think that it was filmed well.
40:23
It was filmed well.
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The director of photography, John Seale, is like a pretty fucking good.
40:29
No, I mean, it was not shot poorly.
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I'm not. That's not what I'm saying.
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I just meant in terms of like this movie had nothing to say.
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Did you know one of his most recent movies was Mad Max Fury Road?
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I believe it. Yeah, that movie fucking rules.
40:42
This movie was shot great.
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The scene with Franz and Cage overlooking the city from 31 stories up.
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They shot that.
40:50
They built scaffolding out to this girder
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and then just sat the two of them out there with wires and had them like read their lines.
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And they're both afraid of heights.
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And they're both afraid of heights.
40:58
Yeah, I would have shit myself doing that.
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That's also like the only time otherwise.
41:02
That isn't CG. Yeah, it's weird.
41:04
So anyway, Nick Cage takes his tumble off this building.
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And then apparently this is where we see Nick Cofferman.
41:11
Yeah.
41:11
Because so he wakes up bleeding for the first time and feeling for the first time
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on this like scaffolding and people are just looking up at him.
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And they're like a lot of them are just like sitting around having lunch.
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And I'm like, have they just been working around this maybe dead guy for hours?
41:28
Yeah. Tell us behind the scenes, Nick.
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How is it at a construction site?
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How long does a corpse go unnoticed?
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I'm not going to lie.
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If you can get away with staring at something for a while and not doing something,
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you probably are going to like I've stared out windows and like I've watched bums fight.
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And it's awesome.
41:48
I watched a person chase a cowboy hat down like Pike Street one time.
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Like it was just blowing in the wind and they couldn't catch it.
41:56
And so I just watched.
41:57
Have you ever felt like a cowboy hat blowing in the wind?
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I don't know this song.
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Oh, I think you're crushing it though.
42:08
Billboard top 100 here we come.
42:10
But okay, so that scene is my favorite quote from the entire thing,
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because this is when Cage gets to be a little cagey.
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This is the interesting shift for him.
42:19
So yeah, the last 20 minutes of this film is when it gets good
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because it becomes a Nick Cage film.
42:23
Yeah. Him like just stomping up and down.
42:25
Maybe it's like 10 minutes of him doing fun stuff.
42:28
That was fucking weird.
42:30
But he wakes up and he's got blood on his hand and he goes, is this blood?
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This is blood.
42:36
And then Nick Offerman goes, is it red?
42:39
And he goes, red.
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Is it red?
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Color.
42:44
I do have a question here.
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They established.
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God damn it, Nick.
42:49
You're good at this game.
42:50
Yeah.
42:51
They established early on that as angels, they can understand every language.
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So he meets this Chinese woman is asking her which direction she's going
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and she's yelling at him in Chinese.
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He doesn't understand it.
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Like how the fuck does he know English?
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If it's all just supposed to be that all language is understood by him
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and he could just be understood.
43:07
How does he know English and not Chinese?
43:10
Well, I think he's lost his divine blessing at this point.
43:12
But why English?
43:14
They probably thought, boy, we can't afford to coach Nick Cage through speaking
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a different fucking language.
43:21
Here he is speaking Latin now.
43:23
We got to get a Latin coach for fucking Nick Cage.
43:26
I just can't imagine his...
43:28
Indulius Dolina, eh?
43:31
That was really good.
43:32
That was good.
43:34
I don't think that first one was a real word.
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I don't. It doesn't matter because I don't speak fucking Latin.
43:38
I don't have divine blessing.
43:40
You know what?
43:40
I speak English like people without divine blessing.
43:44
So he's trying to like get to Tahoe because that's where she's at
43:47
because she's going to get married.
43:48
He's trying to hitchhike because he doesn't have exact change for the bus.
43:51
And this car pulls up and he's like, hey, and then immediately gets jumped
43:55
and his shoe stolen.
43:57
They like punch him in the face right away.
43:59
Yeah.
44:00
I also thought that was Kevin Corrigan.
44:01
Just saying. It might have been.
44:04
They didn't credit any of those guys.
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So it probably was Kevin Corrigan.
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I mean, if I jumped a dude on the street, I wouldn't want to get credited for it either.
44:11
And then number one way the cops find you and then the movie credits
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and then the Goo Goo Dolls play.
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He's outside.
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I don't want the world to see me.
44:20
That's the one.
44:21
God, I hate that song.
44:22
And then now that he's an idiot human because apparently an eternity of memories
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gives him no context for human behavior.
44:31
He's trying to get to Tahoe.
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Big Rick pulls up.
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Where are you going?
44:36
Tahoe.
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I'm going to Reno.
44:39
I'm going to Tahoe.
44:41
I'm going to Reno.
44:44
I'm going to Tahoe.
44:46
Get in. We'll figure it out when you get there.
44:48
There was a lot of patience in that one.
44:50
Yeah.
44:51
That's the second cool trucker we've had, though, because there was the Red Rock West trucker.
44:55
That was pretty cool.
44:56
Oh, yeah.
44:57
He gets there. He finds her.
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They fall in love.
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They fuck once.
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Here's my quote from this film.
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Describe it.
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I can't.
45:06
What's it feel like?
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Warm.
45:08
Aching.
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That's it.
45:11
I never want to hear somebody like verbalize like what it feels like to bust somebody again,
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like somebody who's never experienced a moment of it.
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Like, what does it feel like?
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Like.
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Did you see water balloons covered in light sand?
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And I can't get away.
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Trapped.
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I'm dying.
45:39
That's your that's your address.
45:40
I think we probably got this episode wrapped up.
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Thanks, guys.
45:44
No, Meg Ryan.
45:45
No, I'm spent Meg Ryan dies.
45:47
And then he said she dies in the dumbest way.
45:51
She's riding her bike.
45:52
She has her eyes closed and her arms out.
45:54
And she just loves life and God and angels and shit.
45:57
Mrs. Plate.
45:59
She will be Mrs.
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Plate.
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And she's listening to a dumb fucking song that's playing on the soundtrack.
46:05
And then she runs into a logging truck.
46:07
Yeah.
46:08
That's it.
46:09
What a dumb dumb.
46:10
He feels her guy and then he moves into her apartment.
46:13
Yeah, this is a dumb movie.
46:14
Yeah, just here's my final thought on this film.
46:17
So she introduces him to a pair.
46:19
He goes to the market as a human and he fills up his basket with pairs crying.
46:23
And there's that scene of him at the end where he just like he bites into a pair.
46:27
And my only thought was what if that's a bad pair?
46:31
What if that's his first pair and it's awful?
46:33
He wouldn't know.
46:34
All he would know is that it's sweet and like soft sand.
46:39
But what if it wasn't?
46:40
What if it wasn't an unripe pair?
46:41
Because pairs, there's a wide range of what a pair can taste like.
46:45
What if the thought was this, this was it.
46:48
And he just regrets every decision he's made up to that point.
46:51
He just chucks it into the Hudson and that's it.
46:54
He would probably like it just for what it was.
46:57
I'm sure, but I just not to rain on your joke.
47:01
Nick, do you have anything else on this one?
47:03
It fucking sucks.
47:04
I'm being cut out of my own podcast apparently.
47:07
No, I did not enjoy this movie.
47:08
No, I mean the way he delivers lines like just so vacant.
47:13
I'm like, oh, it hurt so bad.
47:16
Listen, but what if we could just fall and be with the humans?
47:24
I like even that's too much emotion.
47:26
No, it's bad.
47:27
I watched it again.
47:28
I watched an interview for this film as well.
47:30
Just him talking about how he wanted to portray this character
47:33
who never felt anything but had this true love for this human.
47:38
It's bad.
47:39
No, I don't know.
47:40
It's I can't tell if it's in a three-way tie or what?
47:45
Oh, yeah.
47:45
What are your three worst ones at this point at this moment?
47:48
Oh, I just answered this.
47:50
Well, the Schraders and then left behind.
47:53
Oh, not for me.
47:54
For me, it's left behind this and Bangkok Dangerous.
47:58
We haven't gotten to Bangkok Dangerous yet.
47:59
I've seen it and I know it's terrible.
48:03
It's only in here because you thought it was funny to veto me saying don't put it in.
48:08
Yeah, it is funny.
48:09
It's you're not going to feel that way when you've seen the movie.
48:12
Yeah, patrons, you get to listen to episode zero at some point.
48:15
You can hear our logic on how we got here.
48:17
I don't remember any of this question time.
48:20
What was Nick Cage's next film?
48:23
He was asked if all his time up on that girder filming that scene with Franz was was practice for Superman.
48:31
He was actively being interviewed and questioned about Superman at this point.
48:35
We all joke about it as if it was like this would have been a weird thing that happened.
48:38
Forgetting that this was a big fucking deal when he was cast.
48:42
This was prime Superman Cage.
48:44
Yeah, well, they were starting to work up like costume tests and everything for that too.
48:48
Yeah, I didn't realize it was at that that year, but this was kind of like the height of his.
48:53
Yeah, this really was the peak and then there's the big dip coming up and then the resurgence.
49:01
Yeah, so I do have one more quote from the interview for Kiss of Death.
49:06
It was difficult for me because I was playing it in a much more constrained way than my natural way or inclination to perform.
49:14
Like he's always been a weirdo and he knows he's actually like a fucking weirdo.
49:18
That's fair. That's fine. I can respect that. I can respect it too.
49:20
Like my assumption was just like all this weird energy, but he's always tried to be weird and I respect it so much more.
49:28
So at this point guys, what wins the Kiss of Death?
49:33
The Nick Cage movie or the movie starring David Caruso?
49:38
Well, it's starring David Caruso, but he's like number three male billing.
49:43
He did get the and. I mean, if you look at like screen time, it's Caruso, Jackson, Nicholas Cage.
49:51
Oh, yeah. No, I mean, so is that the answer?
49:53
Yeah, I mean one of them he pulls out a great performance.
49:56
One of them he doesn't. He pulls out his meaty dork. He did get his dork out.
50:01
Yeah. Okay, we're going to we're going to frame by frame this and we're going to see a modesty sock.
50:05
I don't know. I think that was a dong.
50:09
So a potential new segment this week in Cage, the Renfield.
50:13
The Renfield trailer. Renfield trailer looks fucking awesome.
50:17
I am so excited for this film. That's all I have to say about it right now.
50:20
It's amazing. I forgot we were going to do this and I should have rewatched it.
50:24
But Aquafina Holt, Harold Holt.
50:28
No, Nicholas. Nicholas Holt. Harold Holt was Captain Holt.
50:31
Captain. Oh, there's your connection.
50:33
Ah, Andre Brower.
50:35
Andre Brower. No, just I did not know what to expect to this film.
50:39
I didn't realize this is going to be an action comedy.
50:41
Oh, yeah. And oh, yeah.
50:43
From all the photos and stuff of him, like walking around Top Hatty and stuff like that is like,
50:48
what is this going to be? It's an action film.
50:52
Yeah, it looks great. Take this.
50:53
I can't my words are not wording.
50:57
I don't know. I have a stroke.
50:59
If you are, I wish you'd share.
51:02
That's a masturbation joke.
51:04
Give me a handy buddy. Goodbye, everybody.
51:08
No, it looks fucking great.
51:09
Nicholas Holt Renfield goes to a support group for people in bad relationships,
51:14
trying to get some support and from a group from a group.
51:19
And then it's like this guy controls my life and don't know.
51:25
I I honestly don't know what's going on in my brain today.
51:28
It's bad. I'm fucking you got the brains.
51:30
Don't worry. I got a case of the brains, guys.
51:34
You got to start drinking coffee before these.
51:36
Yeah, don't drink the Sparkle buddies.
51:38
Well, do both. Yeah.
51:39
Oh, put them together.
51:41
We talked about switching to four local.
51:42
Actually, I suggested it and Sean said no, like the classic four local.
51:46
Can you still get it? No, but you can get what they have.
51:50
I told you about my four local experience.
51:52
Please do now.
51:55
So back when I was working in a bar, I was working in the kitchen
51:58
and it was at the time when four local got, you know, put down
52:03
and our rep from the alcohol distributor came through
52:09
and he was just like, oh, here's this and that.
52:12
Here's all your stuff.
52:13
And do you guys want like some four local because I can't sell them anymore.
52:18
We were like me and the kitchen manager were just standing there.
52:21
We're like, fuck. Yeah.
52:22
So he brings us like four flats of four local.
52:26
So you direct them over a camping weekend, right?
52:28
No, we proceeded to throw a house party that night.
52:31
And like the kitchen managers doing trust falls off of his roof
52:35
because he's so jacked up on these things.
52:38
It was just awesome.
52:40
I'm pretty sure there was people like punching each other in the face
52:43
just to see if they could feel a new page around here.
52:46
We can get over $200 a month.
52:48
We'll do a bunch of four local and record a podcast.
52:51
That's fair. I think that's a reasonable thing.
52:53
So nothing else on either of these movies.
52:56
I enjoy a romp.
52:57
I enjoy a caper.
52:58
And I got that from Kiss of Death, even though it was kind of like
53:00
it felt more like a made for TV movie or that's a perfect way to
53:04
extend an episode of like NYPD Blue.
53:08
I was real disappointed in David Caruso when he said that
53:11
boosting a car in 90 seconds was a good thing.
53:14
60 seconds. That's all we need.
53:16
I have one more thing to say about Kiss of Death.
53:19
Omar apparently has a phobia of the color red.
53:23
It's his bad luck color.
53:24
That's actually my favorite Caruso response was when Little Jr.
53:30
is like, what about you?
53:32
You got a problem with the color red and Caruso is just like walking
53:35
away is like, what do I look like a fucking interior designer?
53:37
I don't give a shit what color it is.
53:39
It's like awesome.
53:41
That is the fucking best response.
53:43
Yeah, like who fucking cares?
53:45
It's a fucking car.
53:46
Next time we've got in the fucking weird zone, Vampire's Kiss
53:50
and Between Worlds, we will have guests for that episode and the one
53:54
following and then back to just the three of us for a little bit.
53:58
Is this the episode where you learn about the alphabet?
54:00
Yes.
54:01
Yes.
54:02
So we've learned acronyms and now we'll learn the alphabet.
54:05
Yep.
54:06
We got it.
54:06
Beautiful.
54:07
But yeah, you know, thank you for listening.
54:09
Please rate, review, subscribe.
54:11
Oh, you forgot.
54:12
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54:15
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54:19
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54:20
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54:24
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54:26
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54:28
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54:29
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54:30
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54:33
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54:35
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54:41
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54:45
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54:51
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54:52
We can safely lay all of the blame of this show at your feet.
54:56
Thank you all.
54:57
Fuck you for doing this to us.
55:00
Love you.
55:01
Bye bye.
55:09
Bye.
55:10
Bye.
55:14
Well, until lawyers get involved and we get the C-section.
55:17
Come at me fucking Coppola.
55:20
Really?
55:21
Yeah.
55:22
Fuck him.
55:23
You want that to be the hill we die on?
55:25
You know what we'll say to him?
55:27
Bye bye.
55:29
Yeah.
55:32
We'll come back to Trucker Tahoe.
55:34
Oh yeah.
55:35
Fucking ass racer cash.
55:36
Well, I'm going to Reno.
55:38
Looks like you're going downtown, big guy.
55:42
That's the sound.
55:44
Keep it in.
55:50
He leaves her Hemingway book.
55:51
When she goes to the library to figure out who did you just like mute me?
55:54
Okay.
55:55
Peter just turned to knob and I'm like, you dick.