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Ep. 51 - Xavier Delisle-Groupil · Found in Interpretation Podcast

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  Hello, hello and welcome to another episode of Found in
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  Interpretation podcast. Once again, I'm one of your Co
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  hosts Alambrado and I'm here Brian.
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  Brian, how you doing? I'm doing fantastic, thanks.
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  It's it's been a year and even though this is going to be
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  published probably in the new year, the 2025 has been quite,
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  quite the challenge. But excited to be here, excited
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  to have Zavier on. Xavier, how are you doing?
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  Today I'm doing great. Thank you for having me here.
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  It's really a pleasure to see my face on the screen of this
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  podcast I've watched so much lately.
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  Yes, absolutely. It's going to be a good one.
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  So don't forget everyone like share, subscribe, comment and
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  all of that. So let's kick it.
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  All right. Here we have Xavier Del Goupil
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  and he is a student at the MC I, which is the Glendon program in
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  conference interpretation. He's here with us to give us a
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  bit of an update of what's going on at Glendon, and there's also
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  an initiative going on. So Xavier, why don't you start
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  with a bit of the background and explain what's the situation?
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  The background of the university you mean, right?
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  Well, you contacted us because you wanted to share an
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  initiative that is going on at Glendon.
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  I'm not gonna spoil it yet, but please tell us what is going on.
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  How's the program doing? What's your impression, and
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  what's? Not sure for sure.
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  So yeah, so last year in November, end of November, the
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  2nd year court at that time, which are now the new alumni and
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  discovered that they wouldn't have any intensives at all on
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  that year. And that's when we discovered as
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  well that after doing a 5 month process of getting into Glendon
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  and starting our studies there, we discovered that we would
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  probably not have an intensive either.
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  So could. You explain because not everyone
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  knows what the intensives are. Can you explain that?
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  Yeah. So basically every year in
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  Glendon, well in the past the second year was entirely in on
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  site and you would have very great professors like Andy
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  Gillies and Campbell Mitchell off and Ahmed and Karnowski and
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  ipass coming to the school and giving in person teaching when
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  and at the same time other resident professors would be
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  giving year long classes. And during COVID it was cut to
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  change to entirely online. And when COVID stopped, now
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  professors would be coming 2 * 1 month, I think to give a
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  intensive classes. So you will have weeks where you
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  see them for maybe 10/15/20 hours at a time.
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  And they would give you very good in person training, which
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  is very different from online training.
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  It can teach you to do sushi attach, to use the the booth
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  tools and equipment or to just do some teamwork, have some
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  presence doing, doing consecutive.
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  And now these people have that now they're the students would
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  have two months and a half more or less of on site classes.
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  And now last year, we've learned that all those really great
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  professors and some of which don't even want to teach online
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  at all, or entirely online, well, we've learned that we
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  don't have any intensives at all.
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  The school would pay for their salary, but not for the travel
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  costs or the flight, the hotel, the perdiem.
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  And so, yeah, that's what happened.
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  And the, the. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Sorry, just to just to make sure
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  I understand on the timeline here, last year at the same time
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  we had an episode where there was a Go Fund Me, Yeah, because
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  of that exact same situation. Are you saying that the same
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  situation is happening this year without the Go Fund Me?
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  But is that the same situation as last year?
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  Is the same situation as last year.
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  It's just we learned last year at the same time as the the, as
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  the students from last year that we would have intensives and we
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  decided to take things into our own hands and instead of just
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  asking for handouts from people. And I'm pretty sure that's a lot
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  of alumni and interpreters. Our friends of Glendon don't
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  really want to have to pay for professors travel all the time.
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  But we decided, well, why not try something else?
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  So we're asking for donations if people are generous and are able
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  to give them. But we're also organized a
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  series of workshops for working interpreters with Andrew, our
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  program director. So we have 6 different workshops
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  this year. 7 workshops. Yeah, 7 workshops.
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  So sorry, Brian, go ahead. So let's let's recap here.
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  So basically what the what was happening before is that there
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  were these intensive sessions with specialized professors who
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  would come in and give you specifics on their subject.
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  And it was way more effective than doing it online.
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  I experienced the, the whole online thing.
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  I was the COVID cohort and. Yeah, and I explained the
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  on-site. Yeah, you experience the on
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  site. So I will say that I am jealous
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  a bit of Allana's experience now having having said that, yes,
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  last year we did have Kathleen on twice, once to talk about the
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  Go Fund me project that they had to be able to raise funds for
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  the professors, the to bring them into Glendon for the
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  cohorts. And the second one was the kind
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  of like a recap of how it ended up working for them at the end.
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  And now this time you're are you saying that you have both a Go
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  Fund Me plus a series of workshops for professionals who
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  are already interpreters? So we don't have more funny.
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  We're all running that 300 platform called Zefi, which
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  allows to both ask for donations and also to sell items.
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  So the items we sell are tickets for workshops.
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  So we have professors like Kinti and Andrew giving workshops.
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  We also Evelyn Campbell coming for our three days intensive and
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  master class on consecutive in April right before she gave us
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  our intensives. So we used that website to
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  streamline everything. I see, so the link would be in
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  the description below. OK, and safely and I have some
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  of these workshops already happened.
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  Yeah, we had one in October and November in December.
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  So we're trying to give one per month.
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  We started in October and when L will end in April this month we
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  had the covering. OK, she I think you might know
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  her. She she's a pretty good.
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  Friend of the podcast. Yeah, and a great trainer after
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  translators and interpreters. So she gave a workshop on the
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  tips to how to make Better Business decisions as a
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  freelance interpreter. Maybe you're just starting or
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  you're you're already a freelance and you want to know a
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  bit more. And she's one of the greatest in
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  North America to give you some coaching.
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  And she was very generous to offer to do this for free.
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  So we had her coming and the entire proceeds went to the
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  travel cost of our professors. Yeah, she was part of my cohort
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  and yeah, she's very generous with her time.
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  And she's, yeah, she's, she's, she was a pleasure to have both
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  times on her cohort. But also, if ever we go to like
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  an American Translators Association conference, I'm sure
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  she will be there. And I would love to, to catch up
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  with her because she is, she's great.
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  Yeah. So the the just to recap here,
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  the workshops are being done by professionals in the in our
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  industry and everyone is giving some of their free time in order
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  to raise the funds to bring the instructors from wherever they
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  are in the world and to bring them to Glendon.
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  College. Not everyone is doing it for
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  free, OK? Most of them are doing it on
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  the, I think the majority do that for free.
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  Some of them asked for a compensation.
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  Most of them is something that's under the market price.
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  So they're still doing it at a lower rate and they're giving
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  their time generously and thinking upon professor who we
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  did pay for his workshop, but he is doing such an incredible job
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  at helping us getting spreading the word.
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  That's in the end it's all paying off.
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  They're doing it for very little and in the end the we can't ask
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  people to do things for free if they don't want to so.
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  Absolutely. Now, of course.
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  Now let's let's promote the next ones.
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  What are? What are?
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  What do the next ones look like? The next one will be
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  specifically for Mandarin English interpreters.
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  It's called it's about English pitfalls for Mandarin
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  interpreters. So it will be Shangu I think
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  someone did one of you have like a being the same cohort as her I
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  think. She was not the same cohort, she
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  was a an, more like an instructor I think.
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  She was one of the 1st to go through the program.
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  Yeah, I don't know when she went through the program, but now
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  she's an instructor. She, she's doing our DP for
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  professionalism at London and she is giving this, this
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  workshop with Andrew Clifford, our program director.
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  So they'll they'll run through normal like very, I think it's
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  very some idioms that are very hard to interpret from one
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  language to the next. They'll be running through it.
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  So that'll be for Mandarin interpreters exclusively in
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  January. Is there a specific date?
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  It is on January, January 14 if I remember correctly.
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  OK, so you heard. It you heard her first here, go
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  and sign up for. All right, we'll have to release
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  the podcast quickly. Yeah, you.
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  Have to go and we're gonna go and sign up now.
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  So come and join the fun. So, OK, that's the, that's the
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  workshop for January. Is there anything else
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  following? That yeah, we have one workshop
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  per month until April. So in April, in February, we'll
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  have a Tina, Mattia Matelski N any of you when?
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  Athena was in my cohort. We exactly.
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  And now she's a professor at London.
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  She was our professor for medical interpreting, the
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  neutral and neutral clad language class OK last year.
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  And she she was happy to help us.
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  So she's giving a class in February about stress management
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  for interpreters, specifically for stress management for
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  freelancers. So how to multitask?
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  All that goes around managing your own image and interpreting
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  at the same time. And then in March, we'll have
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  that workshop. We still don't exactly know the
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  right the specifics of the of the subject, but we'll have
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  Laurel come and originally our the the person was what was in
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  charge for a long time after being sound tech for our
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  program. It was totally dedicated to a
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  Glendene interpreting program. It's been maybe 5 or 6 years.
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  He's not now it's just working for the university, but they're
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  both doing a podcast, not a podcast, but a workshop on how
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  to maximize the sound quality during the workshop, how to deal
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  with clients to make sure that another in your workshop during
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  your contract. So all the you ensure that your
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  plan as a proper gear and equipment.
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  How do you make sure that you have the the proper things, all
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  the sound works. So it will be a bit technical
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  and theoretical and then a bit of practical aspect to it.
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  Because I think Laura is pretty used to ensure that her clients
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  understand the importance of some quality for both the
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  outcome of the contract and for the interpreters themselves.
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  Because you can get some pretty serious ear injury if I'm.
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  If absolutely, yeah, yeah. So that's for March.
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  You're gonna have like a kind of a techie session and then April.
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  In April we have Helen coming, so she's coming a bit earlier
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  than our intensive with us to give a three days master class
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  on consecutive. So that when when Helen shows up
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  at Glendon in person, is that reserved for the current cohort
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  or any one of us for a fee can participate?
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  So that's two different things. She's coming to give us a four
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  days intensive, but right, she arrives a few days earlier to
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  give a three days master class and those are for everyone.
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  And yes, yeah, you can. You can buy either a three day
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  pass on to be on their own site or if you want to be there
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  online, it would be as a pure observer.
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  So there's no interaction possible with Helen, but you can
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  still follow the workshop and get her teaching.
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  For three days. Yeah, she'll be there for three
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  days. So it's 3 3 * 6 hours if I
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  remember correctly. OK.
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  And so that's April and then that that's the end of the
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  series, right, because you get exactly then preparing for exams
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  and your exams. So, OK, so then this the amount
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  that is raised that you're raising, it's to be able to pay
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  for the travel expenses for those intensive courses that
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  you're explaining with there was I think 4/4 intensives.
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  And there are three this year, 3.
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  So they'll be Helen, Helen, Campbell, Ahmed and Anshu for
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  the yeah, for the Mandarin. For the Mandarin cohort, OK,
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  yeah, sounds good. And what do you have a goal in
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  mind as to how much to raise in order to pay for all this
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  travel? Yeah, for the travel, we already
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  know we need a certain amount of money and then if you add the
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  the what costs the intensive, not the intensive, but the
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  workshop, it's around $20,000 that we need to raise.
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  OK, now I'm going to ask a loaded question and I hope you
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  can choose to answer now because you're you're a student at
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  Glendon, not administrative. You don't have any
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  administrative capacity at the university.
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  But I guess my main question is why, like why are students
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  having to come up with the funds in order to have these intensive
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  courses instead of the university like York University,
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  that is, that is like why are they not flipping the bill for
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  this? It doesn't seem like a a huge
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  amount of money for them, but it's a huge endeavor for you
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  guys on top of the curriculum that you already have for this
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  year and or last year and this year.
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  Well, it's a very fair question and I think it warrants a very
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  big answer. First of all, we don't have to
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  do it. We could accept not to have
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  intensives, but I was one of the students of our court who
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  decided to come to Glendon because of these world class
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  interpreters coming to give us on site teachings.
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  And when I learned December personally, when I learned that
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  they were not coming probably for us either, then you have two
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  choice. I either you you you decide that
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  you let it go and you won't have that high quality training.
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  That's can be a make or break for your career or you decide to
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  try and do something. And so it was either going a
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  Glendon and trying to get my intensives or changing school.
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  But then if I go to any other school in Europe, I need to pass
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  certain exams, I'm busy studying and by the time I make I made a
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  decision, I make a decision, maybe it's too late for the
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  those admission entrance and some other students also didn't
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  have the opportunity to go abroad.
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  You know we've. Got there's something, sorry to
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  interrupt, but there's something I don't understand in the
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  timeline here because it was the same.
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  The students from last year learned that at the last minute,
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  and that's why they did the Go fund me.
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  Yeah, you're one year after that, right?
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  Yeah, one while you're after that.
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  So and you so you didn't because you you must have known last
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  year that if the students this year had to raise some money
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  that you would be caught in the same situation, right?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I, I thought that I would
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  have to do something and some other of my colleagues thought
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  the same. And I decided to to be positive
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  about it and think that whatever little we can raise for that we
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  would raise it or and if we can raise the whole amount, which
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  we're online, online to do it. By the way, we are already at
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  50% of our fundraising goal already happy about that.
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  We're really proud. And then we would try.
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  It is because to to me it made no sense to go to Glendon
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  without having those intensives. But also I didn't have the time
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  to try to get into another school.
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  I couldn't get to Geneva because the instructions were.
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  Finished so you were at year you were last year, you were year
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  one student and and let's say Cathleen and others were year 2
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  students. The year 2 students learned that
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  the instructors are not coming unless they have the funds.
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  You are year one student. So back then you thought, oh,
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  we're going to have the same problem.
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  And then you said, well, I'm not going to change the whole thing.
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  I still want to do year 2 at Glendon.
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  So in order and and then you are caught between a rock and a hard
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  place. And then you said, you know what
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  I'm still going to do year to a Glendon and we're going to make
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  sure that we also do the effort of bringing those instructors is
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  that. Exactly.
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  And to also give something to to the community, to those that
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  would be willing to donate to us.
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  It's not. If someone wants to donate of
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  their money, that's great, but we understand that doing this
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  two times in a year might not be as endearing.
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  For it would have seemed silly. Yeah, right.
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  Exactly. So we had to think about things
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  during the summer and Andrew came up with the best idea,
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  which was to organize workshops for interpreters so that those
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  people that were going to give a few dollars for the program for
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  well, for the travel cost of our professors would get something
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  out in return. And they, they're high quality
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  workshops as well. So they're getting something
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  great in return. OK.
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  And so we haven't been forced to do anything.
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  I just I was. It's your initiative.
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  Yeah, yeah. I was a bit obsessed to get my
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  intensives and because I was having that mindset and Andrew
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  had a very good idea, we ended up doing this.
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  And rightfully so, because there is a huge difference.
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  I mean, and I are testament to the different, the different
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  level or the different quality of, of teaching when it's 100%
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  online or if it's in person. So yeah, no, I understand where,
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  where you're coming from and I think it's a great initiative.
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  But again, I'm like, why isn't your university flipping the
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  bill for this? Honestly, all I know is that
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  most universities in the in North America are having budget
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  crunches, big budget crunch. As you know, as you know,
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  Monterey is closing the whole, the whole building.
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  It's not just interpreting program, it's, it's a few
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  hundred programs that are in that specific building in
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  Monterey. I don't remember to what, what,
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  which university they are affiliate to, but the whole
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  thing is Middlebury. Yeah.
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  So they they're, they're closing the whole of Monterey and
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  Maryland. Maryland Masters interpreting is
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  also closing I I know that my programming translation where I
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  was studying before coming to London.
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  I also cut. Where did you do it?
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  In the invested Morial. OK, alright.
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  Yeah, I was at university. I know there's there's a big
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  budget crunch everywhere. I know that universities don't
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  get as much foreign students as before because of new
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  immigration policies because since COVID and with the trade
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  war with China, I think that's a lot of factors are coming, are
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  making coming to study in North America less palatable and less
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  possible for immigrants and universities and generals have
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  less farming students and that's a big budget cut for those
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  universities and they're cutting drastically.
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  Now where did, where did you come from in order to because
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  you relocated to Toronto, right? Where did you relocate from?
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  No, I relocated to Montreal. Actually, I was from Montreal
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  originally, but after doing 4 years of studies in politics,
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  economics and philosophy at the bachelor's level, I decided that
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  studies were not for me because at the time I didn't see what
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  kind of career or what I would get from these fields, which
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  interested me greatly. So I ended up doing 7 years
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  traveling in Australia and New Zealand and Europe, working
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  there. And then I came back just for,
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  just for, for the masters and at the end of actually.
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  OK, so you're living in Toronto now and in order to do the
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  Glendon program? No, I'm living in Montreal and I
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  go to Toronto when we have on sites.
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  I see. OK, OK.
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  Yeah, so. You don't have.
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  To you do have to relocate to attend the courses, but they're
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  not getting the. Instructions.
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  Yeah, I think that if I may be a bit more specific here, if I'm
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  not mistaken, when I did my masters at Glendon, I stayed
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  there for from let's say September till they kicked us
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  out because of COVID in February or March 20, 20.
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  But in your case, Xavier, you're going there just for a month
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  here, a month there. It's it's not a long, long term
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  stay, right? Now it's one month in September
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  we were there but we only had Kinti, we had a month long Kitty
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  intensive and and then we are going in January, from January 5
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  to the 1st of February, we'll have Ahmed coming for the first
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  week. He'll give us 5 days and she
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  comfort comfort Mandarin class during the second week of
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  January should also give us a mock conference that emulates
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  the UN. She'll she'll give that to all
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  language pairs. And after that she'll give her
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  intensive 2 the Mandarin class. We'll have our Andrew intensive
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  and then we'll go back home and we'll also have.
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  Thank you, Helen. Helen also is coming.
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  Ellen is coming in April. That's why our master classes in
• 23:09
  April, because she does it on site in Toronto right before our
• 23:13
  intensive. I see, because what I, what I
• 23:15
  was picturing is kind of like an AI lens experience was to be
• 23:18
  there all year round, right? And I believe that when when we
• 23:22
  had an auto university come on and explain what their masters
• 23:26
  program looked like, it seemed like you have to dedicate the
• 23:28
  entire school year to being in Ottawa on site and attending
• 23:32
  class every day. So it's a bit different of a
• 23:34
  structure with Glendon, I guess. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:39
  It must have been something for Anna because right now all the
• 23:41
  things you must have done like doing a shisha task, training
• 23:44
  and consequent person, now all of that has to be condensed in
• 23:49
  two months and a half instead of 1 full year.
• 23:52
  Must have been really really good for for you.
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  In my case, I really enjoyed the experience with in the booth
• 24:00
  because there, there, there are some booths and you get to, you
• 24:04
  know, to to get a custom. It's it's really a simulation of
• 24:09
  what real life in a booth looks like, although now it's less and
• 24:14
  less likely that there are on site events, but it is the way
• 24:19
  it is. And from the virtual tour, they
• 24:22
  look great from a distance. For me, they look they look
• 24:26
  nicer than the stuff we get at some conferences.
• 24:30
  Well, back in the day though, the, the the booth was OK, but
• 24:34
  the, the devices themselves, there was always some tech
• 24:39
  issues. Yeah.
• 24:40
  So I think that now they're using basically a Zoom inside
• 24:45
  the booth or something like that, but.
• 24:47
  Yeah, Yeah, exactly. We are.
• 24:48
  We have our power stations connect directly to their big
• 24:52
  screen. We have Zoom.
• 24:53
  And when we're in the central room room, then we have now you
• 24:57
  know that that's big camera. There's like 3 or 4 cameras on
• 25:00
  that tower, and this is anyone that's talking, focusing on
• 25:04
  them. It's got a very good microphone.
• 25:06
  Is it like the owl? Yeah, that's the owl.
• 25:09
  OHK OK. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:11
  The only thing I don't like about the L is that in real
• 25:13
  life, if someone is safe sorting their papers, it'll catch that
• 25:16
  instead of someone's talking SO or someone like pouring
• 25:20
  themselves a glass of water. Anyway, so we shouldn't digress
• 25:24
  too much, although this is a podcast.
• 25:29
  So we're going to post in the description of this podcast the
• 25:38
  dates and the links to enroll in these workshops and we encourage
• 25:46
  everyone to participate. And I, I'm very thankful for
• 25:53
  everyone who's putting the effort into all of this because
• 25:58
  I think this is very important and it's simple also important
• 26:01
  to keep a good variety of programs and interpretations.
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  So this way we'll we'll make sure that there's always some
• 26:09
  qualified people in the booth with us.
• 26:11
  Yeah, because I do. Have one last question, year
• 26:15
  one, is there a year one this year?
• 26:17
  There was no year one. So the the freeze, the the
• 26:22
  freezer mission last year for this year, OK.
• 26:24
  And right now, they're reshaping the program to ensure that next
• 26:29
  year they get admissions. OK.
• 26:31
  So it's gonna be a year one, maybe next year.
• 26:34
  Yeah, yeah. So Kinti went on a podcast.
• 26:37
  You're going to Sylvia's podcast This this, this new aren't Yeah.
• 26:41
  So she went to this podcast talk about it.
• 26:44
  They'll be so basically the masters program I'm doing, we
• 26:48
  don't see any major difference, only administrative ones.
• 26:52
  Although I from what I understand, the intensives on
• 26:55
  site won't be is a thing of the past that that's the way I
• 26:58
  understand it. Maybe that's not the the real
• 27:00
  the real case, but I know I think that's how it is.
• 27:03
  OK. And they're also thinking of
• 27:05
  doing new, either first, first level or like undergraduate or
• 27:10
  graduate diplomas, some diplomas for graduates that want to come
• 27:16
  back to prior to maybe get a tech update.
• 27:18
  So get a class from Michelle on how to use all those new tools
• 27:22
  that that are being developed by the industry all the time.
• 27:26
  And also undergraduate degree specifically for those language
• 27:31
  pairs which are not dominant in Canada.
• 27:34
  So either English and French with maybe Punjabi or indie or
• 27:39
  Native American language, for example.
• 27:42
  Yeah, also sign language. So that's what's on the table
• 27:46
  and that's what's being in the process of being approved right
• 27:50
  now. I see.
• 27:51
  OK, that explains why there's no year 1 cohort.
• 27:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Alright, sorry I had that one
• 27:59
  last question that was lagging. No, of course, of course.
• 28:02
  And as you said earlier, with with Maryland and and Monterey
• 28:08
  closing now if if Lennon closes then there's no more multi
• 28:13
  market multilanguage and conference differing masters in
• 28:17
  in North America and you'll have to go to Europe or do a program
• 28:21
  specifically for interpreting in the Parliament in Ottawa, which
• 28:26
  is still a great program in. But there's that offers a
• 28:30
  masters and there's Michael program at Laval University as
• 28:34
  well. Also it's it's a whole master in
• 28:36
  Oh yeah, now I thought it was a one year program.
• 28:39
  It's a mess. As far as I know it's a masters
• 28:42
  you gotta watch episode. I don't know, 20 something.
• 28:46
  OK, well, you. Get all the details.
• 28:48
  That's great news, then. Yeah.
• 28:51
  All right. So thank you very much, Xavier.
• 28:54
  I'll say it again. It's very important like share,
• 28:58
  subscribe and enroll in those workshops.
• 29:02
  So this way the students will be able to meet their teachers in
• 29:07
  person. And you know, in person is
• 29:10
  always so much better. Yes.
• 29:12
  Absolutely, yes. Absolutely, yeah.
• 29:14
  I can't wait to see them. Andrew, thanks for everything.
• 29:16
  Yeah. Thank you for coming on and
• 29:18
  thank you for all the the valuable info and good luck with
• 29:22
  your fundraiser. Thank you Take.
• 29:25
  Care. Alright, take care everyone.