Latest / The Innovation Show / Bruce Vojak — The Hourglass Model of Breakthrough Innovation
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- 0:00This is the Hourglass Model suggested by Bruce and his co-authors in
- 0:05the book, Serial Innovators.
- 0:06Welcome back, Bruce Vojak.
- 0:08It's great to be back, Aidan.
- 0:10It's great to have you back, man.
- 0:11We could have created several episodes out of the conversations we had off-air
- 0:16I know.
- 0:17I know.
- 0:17So let's get stuck in here, and we're gonna give it a short little episode here.
- 0:22, I wanted to just offer people a shorter episode for those people
- 0:24, with limited attention spans.
- 0:27Maybe you'll give a little introduction, Bruce, to what this
- 0:29we're seeing on the screen is.
- 0:31basically this is presented, , in contrast to what a phase gate
- 0:36or stage gate model might Be.
- 0:38Whereas a phase gate, a stage gate is a very linear model starting with this idea
- 0:43of having some concept or an insight.
- 0:46The insight's bought into, and then you develop it sequentially or stepwise.
- 0:51In the hourglass model, it's not prescriptive the way a
- 0:55stage gate or phase gate is.
- 0:56It's descriptive.
- 0:57It describes really the, basic places where innovators reside
- 1:05as they move through this idea of creating some new business
- 1:09model or a new product or process.
- 1:12And it begins at the upper left.
- 1:15As we had already talked a bit about the, people who are very
- 1:18successful at innovating, the serial innovators who succeed well, become
- 1:22motivated to solve customer problems.
- 1:25They're motivated to solve not only customer problems, but to advance
- 1:28the company, to to make the company profitable and to really help
- 1:34everybody in their environment.
- 1:38they're usually initially assigned some kind of a problem, but in the process
- 1:42of being assigned it, sometimes, not always, but often they'll go back and
- 1:47they'll redefine the problem so they deeply understand the problem, and
- 1:50they may change the way it's framed.
- 1:54I had shared a bit about Tom Osborne with with the Always Ultra product,
- 2:00and he was looking to make a feminine
- 2:02hygiene product.
- 2:02It was designed and functioned like a diaper, it turned out a lot of people
- 2:08in that organization came from that product area, so that was a
- 2:11mindset that was appropriate and it worked, and it was actually a very
- 2:15successful product at the time.
- 2:17But he began to look at it more carefully and more deeply, and he
- 2:21changed the definition of the problem.
- 2:22So the innovation in his case was really the redefining of the problem to say,
- 2:27"No, it shouldn't necessarily look like a diaper. It should look like a
- 2:31garment. It should conform to the body and have all these other functions as
- 2:34a result." Be comfortable, if you will.
- 2:37But that's really this upper left phase where, the innovator often but
- 2:42not always will really in the process of coming into the proj- project
- 2:49have an assigned problem, but then really maybe redefine it in some way.
- 2:54I thought about this as well, that there's a famous goalkeeper for
- 2:59Manchester United, his name was Peter Schmeichel, and I used to call our
- 3:04organization Sch- Schmeichel sometimes because nothing would get past it.
- 3:10And then I thought of, I can't remember who the quote is by, but it
- 3:14was, like, some quip by somebody who said, "Ideas, we don't ship ideas
- 3:20here. They're lucky if they escape."
- 3:25And r- that's the context for what I'm about to say, so sometimes I found
- 3:31when you get an idea that has least resistance, even if it's not the right
- 3:38problem to solve you'll, go with it.
- 3:41And actually, that's the origin of the Innovation Show.
- 3:43I worked for an organization, it was worse than Schmeichel.
- 3:46It was the best goalkeeper in the world.
- 3:49And the Innovation Show was one of those ideas that escaped from it,
- 3:54and I kept it going afterwards, after that, that, left that organization.
- 3:58But I just wondered what you found with that in your studies and research
- 4:04on people, because I know you've done deep research on innovators.
- 4:08And sometimes it's not exactly the problem you wanna solve, but it's a problem,
- 4:14and it gives you a bit of progress.
- 4:16I want to be really clear that the serial innovators were an interesting
- 4:22mix of being pragmatic and idealistic And in this case, I'd say there
- 4:28is a certain level of pragmatism.
- 4:30I'd have to be-- I'd have to really think to give you a couple
- 4:33of crisp, clear stories on it.
- 4:35But it's not like they all had to change and redefine the problem.
- 4:41And that's why I wanna, step lightly on that, that upper left circle because they
- 4:47really would look to change it if it's, if it really solved customer problems better.
- 4:52not everybody has the luxury of that, of find the right problem.
- 4:56And it links to something we're gonna talk in the next episode about this
- 4:59navigating the corporate politics, that sometimes they have to have a really
- 5:03good relationship, with the customer in order to solve the right problem, and
- 5:08actually to get people who are bored of their jobs engaged to be working on
- 5:12these things in their spare time as well.
- 5:16But we'll talk about that in the next episode.
- 5:18I'll quickly follow on that.
- 5:19You think about this whole area of design thinking and
- 5:22empathy of customers.
- 5:22the innovators and this a little bit, a step or a half
- 5:27step away but I think
- 5:31it's a good place to mention this at least that, the serial innovators were
- 5:34doing things like being empathic and really doing, I'll say, aspects of
- 5:41design thinking before a lot of these things were ever really even concepts.
- 5:45And I know I've alluded to this in the past, but this is a good example.
- 5:49They, don't do things just for the sake of saying, "I have to really redefine the
- 5:53problem." They say, "What's necessary to be successful in the organization?" as
- 5:59you said, there can be times where you go with what you've got, and other times
- 6:02where you say, "No, this other concept is so important to pursue that if we
- 6:07don't do it the competition might do it.
- 6:11So we have to pursue these things.
- 6:13And so they apply these things really flexibly.
- 6:17and we'll cover that in depth because that very much comes to the fore in
- 6:21the next episode on navigating the politics of breakthrough innovation
- 6:26Yeah.
- 6:27So, then moving from defining the problem, they move to the upper right where this is
- 6:32where you deeply understand the problem.
- 6:35I always like to qualify this and say it's not an academic study,
- 6:38but it is a very deep dive.
- 6:41say this upper right in particular, I'm I find is very appealing because it's
- 6:47counter to the idea that we're, all tightly h- well, it's counter to the
- 6:52idea that we just have to let loose.
- 6:54We have to be free thinkers, and The pattern that we saw wasn't, just being
- 7:03crazy and, again, I-- there's this, view that we just have to have beanbag
- 7:07chairs and foosball tables, and we can be innovators, no, it's this deep
- 7:12understanding, it's a beautiful thing to look at because because these are people
- 7:18who really understand the problem at hand.
- 7:19They understand the customer need deeply.
- 7:22They deeply understand the technology, not only the customer, but the market,
- 7:27the financial aspects, the manufacturing.
- 7:30They understand what's acceptable in the organization at different levels.
- 7:34And it's through that deep understanding that they begin to collect enough dots
- 7:38that they can begin to connect them.
- 7:40And that's when they begin to see, okay, there's a pattern here.
- 7:44I think I see something worth trying.
- 7:46And they drop down into that middle section.
- 7:49And that middle section is the cusp between what we might call the
- 7:53fuzzy front end and the actual stage gate itself in a, linear model.
- 8:00section is where they try things, they maybe do some small sample studies.
- 8:05They'll go talk in more specifics with customers.
- 8:10If it's a, if it's a B2B sale, they'll go to purchasing agents and influencers
- 8:14in the customer organization, maybe with prototypes or other types of examples.
- 8:20really begin to try things and iterate and learn from that.
- 8:24And then they drop down to the lower section that's much
- 8:27more the implement lower left.
- 8:29Lower right, the idea there is much more of of not letting go entirely,
- 8:34but influencing the marketplace itself.
- 8:39and really this, model, if you will, is more of a state diagram, if we look at
- 8:45it in terms of using computer language.
- 8:48You have to pretty much touch on all of these five states in the
- 8:51process, there's really no order that they have to appear in.
- 8:56and these arrows suggest where we more often saw a flow.
- 9:03So we might flow from upper left to upper right, then we might flow
- 9:07from upper right back to upper left.
- 9:10Oh we've, learned all this.
- 9:13Maybe we've got the wrong problem.
- 9:15And then sometimes they'll drop down to the middle.
- 9:17Sometimes they'll be in the middle, and they'll be learning things
- 9:20and say "We're, trying things, and this isn't even the right problem,"
- 9:23to go back to the upper left.
- 9:24So those arrows are meant to suggest these are ways we might see the flow.
- 9:30And so again, it describes the innovators that are most successful, and and it
- 9:37suggests that if you're doing this and you recognize this, you're not
- 9:43as crazy as you might think you are.
- 9:45And I think that's an important statement to make sometimes too,
- 9:49because I don't want to say they were all plagued with self-doubt.
- 9:52Later I hope to share a story of someone who began to really understand that
- 9:57she really was doing what was right.
- 9:59But It took a while to really accept that.
- 10:02one of the things that dawned on me, again, looking at this diagram in
- 10:06the greater context of the book, and particularly in the next episode about
- 10:09the politics is it also probably depends on the maturity of your organization,
- 10:16the skill set, the capability, the understanding of the organization in
- 10:21a innovation cycle, and also where the organization is on its own S-curve, where
- 10:27is it on its own maturity, and has it got other people in R&D, other people
- 10:33in innovation, and also leadership.
- 10:38a leadership team nearing retirement who doesn't want to take on a big change
- 10:43is gonna be l- more resistant of this kind of back and forth, et cetera.
- 10:48And I wondered- sometimes about that, is that why you could jump stages
- 10:52here and not even know that you are jumping stages, and just be lucky
- 10:57because the organization you're in
- 10:59Yeah I've, got to say that there are some organizations, and maybe this is
- 11:05because I'm an engineer I'll say this.
- 11:07The ones that rely, and we'll get to this in the next session more,
- 11:10but the ones that rely more on the data and,and facts, it's a little
- 11:15bit, I think anecdotally, it's a little bit easier to navigate those.
- 11:19The ones that even if they say they value data and facts, but actually it's not
- 11:25a, virtue to believe in that there it's tougher because then it, can be a more,
- 11:32decisions can be based more on whims.
- 11:34And I've, seen that, I've experienced it, and yeah, there's only so
- 11:38much any individual can truly do.
- 11:41I don't want to say that, if you dropped any of these people into any
- 11:44organization they'd be successful.
- 11:47But what it does tell me at least is that if you're someone who's behaving
- 11:54in a way that's consistent with this model, consistent with that MP3 or MP5,
- 11:58excuse me, that we spoke about earlier if you're doing all these things and
- 12:03you're doing it right and you continually hit a wall, maybe it is okay to leave.
- 12:10And if you're not doing these things, maybe you better try these
- 12:13things before you say, "It's them, not me." And I think that, that to
- 12:18me is part of the value of this.
- 12:19It, not only, as I said a moment ago, normalizes your behavior, it also
- 12:25gives you a template against which to say, "Am I doing these things?"
- 12:30a funny little thing for you, last when I was looking at this diagram, I
- 12:34kinda thought it looked like a human body, and when the product launches,
- 12:38I'm not gonna say where it goes.
- 12:41It's a birthing process.
- 12:42Ex- oh, even better.
- 12:44Well, that's that's more, more positive than I thought, man, when I looked at it.
- 12:50until after I said it and you laughed.
- 12:51I thought, "Oh man, sorry."
- 12:53Brilliant.
- 12:53All right, Bruce let's, leave it there.
- 12:55And,
- 12:56uh, for those people who have just joined us for this little nugget, this little
- 12:59short episode, thank you for joining us.
- 13:01And Bruce Vojak, author of Serial Innovators, thank you for joining us.
- 13:06Thank you.
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