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Living an Intentional Life with Geoff Zimpfer · Mortgage Marketing Radio

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  What do people who succeed and who achieve consistent results?
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  What do they do?
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  back into recently, which is Atomic Habits.
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  If you haven't yet got Atomic Habits, it's great.
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  But one of the quotes I believe I saw in there said that there are no high-performance
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  people, only high-performance habits.
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  Yeah.
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  And that really stuck with me when I first heard that, saw that because I always, for
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  years, right, on my journey to try and quote, achieve success, you know, I always thought
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  there was something different or special about those that I saw in the magazines and that
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  were highlighted as, you know, these mega producers and stuff.
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  I'm like, wow, man, they must be really smart.
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  They must be really, they must know something that I don't know.
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  And that may be true, but the real difference is they have high-performance habits.
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  And so before unpacked today's discussion, which is about the lifestyle of successful
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  You know what to do. Okay, in my hands, can you hear it? I have this right up, the summary
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  and is all about intentional living. And I wanted to share this with you because we
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  just went through this morning, I'm part of this small group of men and it's, you know,
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  I call it an accountability group. I call it an iron sharpened iron group and we get
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  in there once a week and we've been meeting for all of this year. So here we are in our
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  10th month. We've been meeting once a week for 10 months on average, right? Give or take.
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  And I wanted to share with you the conversation for this morning. And it relates to what I
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  said a moment ago about there are no high performance people, only high performance habits.
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  So what will it take for you to be successful? Have you ever asked yourself that? I'm sure
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  you have. Most people ask themselves that. Does it take the right company? Does it take
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  the right interest rates? People, money, relationships, recognition, a certain amount of innate talent?
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  Hmm. Some of those, I mean, it can't hurt, right? But how many of you know somebody who
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  started with way less than you in their phenomenally successful? What we talked about on our call
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  this morning was this thing called intentional living. Most people want to be successful.
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  Most people probably want to make a difference, right? At some level that is probably why, partly
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  why you're in this career. You want to be successful. You've got the opportunity to achieve
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  a very significant income. And you probably at some level do want to make a difference in
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  people's lives. I assume I don't know. It could be wrong. You want your life to count.
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  You want to have fulfillment, right? You want to have significance. And we all have good
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  intentions. Don't we with our lives? Hopefully. Most of us do. But here's the realization is
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  that good intentions aren't enough to achieve what we want always. They're not enough to achieve
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  the success or to get the results or to experience significance. What do I mean by that? Well, most
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  people rely on good intentions. Hoping that they in and of themselves, my good intentions will
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  be enough to achieve your desired result success and significance. But there's a world of
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  difference between good intentions and intentional living. What does this look like in the real
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  world? Well, if I were to list some words, this would be how you can recognize the difference
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  between good intentions and intentional living. Let's start with good intentions. Desire. I wish
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  I hope someday. Hopefully one day someday. I hope so. That's called good intentions. I really
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  want this to work. Intentional living. These are the words that would describe intentional living.
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  Action. Today, definitely, you can count on it 100% done strategy. For example, good intentions
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  tend to be passive in their approach in how they respond to the desire. Like I said, boy,
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  yeah, I know. Let's give it a shot. I hope it works. Good intentions show up as the occasional effort.
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  Another example of good intentions. Well, somebody should do something about that. Those are good
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  intentions. That's all good. Good intentions are a wonderful thing to have to want things to be
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  better. But intentional living, right? That's action oriented. Those are verbs. Those are active,
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  continual, disciplined words like I will. Really, you could sum it up. That intentional living is
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  characterized by three words. The first word deliberate. Being intentional never occurs by accident.
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  It requires a person to think about his life, her life, consider where she wants to go and plan
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  what she intends to do. You don't wind up on top of success mountain by accident. So the first
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  word that describes intentional living or characterizes it is deliberate. The second word is consistent.
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  Being intentional requires a person to follow through every day, week after week, year after year.
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  Intentional living is not a destination. Intentional living is a journey.
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  So think about this. In what areas of your life are you not being consistent?
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  Is it in the calls you have to make? The meetings you should be having, the conversations you should
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  be having, the commitments to yourself to follow through. On those good intentions, like I want to
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  lose weight, I want to stop smoking, I want to have a better relationship with Dylan the blank,
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  my kids, my spouse, parents. Hmm. Next word. Willful. Willful.
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  Being intentional is a choice. We must make and continue to make
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  even as we face obstacles and challenges. Making a difference takes on going effort.
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  So you have to be willful. We have free will in a lot of situations and circumstances.
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  Being intentional, which is action oriented, purpose driven, today discipline. That is a choice.
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  And if we want to achieve success, we need to make those choices repeatedly.
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  Or put another way, I think of one of my favorite mentors from back in the day, 30 years ago,
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  Jim Rohn. I had to pleasure to meet Jim Rohn once. I don't know if you guys know the backstory.
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  By now, I think you do. I spent some time working for Tony Robbins over 30 years ago.
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  Now, if you don't know, Jim Rohn was Tony Robbins mentor. As Tony was coming up and learning about
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  personal development and things like that. So you can look all this up. But the point is,
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  Jim Rohn was the first place Tony got his taste of success principles, personal development.
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  And I remember going backstage to meet Jim. It was a small crew of us that were working for Tony
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  at the time. And it was in some ways, it was like meeting royalty. I mean, there he was in the
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  back, surrounded by his staff and people. And I had just watched Jim deliver one of his, you know,
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  very simple, yet impactful conversations on wisdom and living a successful life.
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  And Jim, one of my favorite quotes, as I said, is,
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  what is success, but a few simple disciplines repeated every day.
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  And on the other hand, failure is a few errors in judgment also repeated every day.
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  So it's not like messing up once. It's not having that cheeseburger once. It's not
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  neglecting to make your calls and follow through and have the conversations once. It's not
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  neglecting to spend time to acknowledge people and be present for your kids and family
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  and to make sure you call mom and to reach out to that friend who maybe you've been
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  been neglecting for a while, right? It's not doing that once that takes your life off course.
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  It's doing it repeatedly over and over again. We don't, we don't see
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  the slow progress towards that result in the short window. You know, it's funny back to my
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  call this morning with the guys is we're talking about fitness and working out and somebody shared
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  this phrase, which is talking about trying to lose weight. And I love it. It says, you can't
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  outwork the fork. That's why you can't outwork the fork. So the point is, is the person who is
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  talking about how they're trying to, right, have a higher level fitness, lose weight and their
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  exercising. But the fork, what's going in the mouth, that's not happening. It's not helping,
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  right? Can't outwork it. Okay. So back to our lessons here today. So good intentions are never
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  enough. You've got to be deliberate, consistent and willful. Most people rely on their good intentions.
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  As I said, they're not enough to change your lifestyle. Why? Because if all you ever do is cultivate
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  good intentions, you're like, you know, watering these good intentions and talking about all the good
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  intentions you have and that you, you want to do, but never act with circle the word intentionality.
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  What'll happen is you'll become frustrated and unfulfilled.
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  You still may have a desire for positive change. You might even want it more, right? God,
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  I really want to make this change. I really want to do this. I really want to make this kind of
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  money. I really want to fill in the blank. I really want to, but when you're just always just
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  being intentional and not actually consistently acting, you're not going to have the results to show up,
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  you're going to feel frustrated. You need to choose intentional living,
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  becoming an intentional person as the power to change your life. It's the best way to improve your
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  life, right? A lot of us have big dreams, but few actually follow through on loving those dreams.
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  Intentional living moves you from desire to action. It empowers you to follow through.
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  The sure pathway to a better life is consistent, positive, intentional action. As I had said a
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  moment ago, a few simple disciplines repeated every day. Intentional living teaches you the value
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  of thinking ahead. People who are intentional usually don't wake up and get surprised by what happens
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  throughout the day, right? Because intentional living means you don't let the day sneak up on you,
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  right? You think ahead. You plan for the day, the week that you want to have. You're intentional
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  about the day. And if you're thinking before taking action, you're more effective than the person
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  who's trying to wing it and pivot and adjust into heat of the moment. So here's a homework assignment.
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  Take a look at your calendar. If you're not driving open your phone, your mobile phone calendar,
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  if you're at your computer laptop, take a look at your, wherever you manage your day and your
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  week in terms of your activities. Where? Well, first of all, do you have a lot of white space on your
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  calendar? No, I work with some elbows and we do some coaching and on our weekly calls. And sometimes
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  we talk about being more intentional in the week with time blocking activities. What time blocking is
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  is an intention to do something. Does it always happen? No, life gets in the way. Things story off.
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  I get it, right? Nothing's perfect. But the cool thing about time blocking and being intentional
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  is when you do get a curve ball, at least you get back to your intention and move toward completion.
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  And again, build momentum, consistency, progress. I want to know how to always feel good.
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  Setting any health challenges aside. The feeling of making progress in your life. How do you make progress?
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  You'd be intentional and you get clear on what are the actions that you need to take and repeat over
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  and over again. You've heard me talk about that before. I don't need to tell you what they are. Do I?
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  You know what they are. Look, you fundamentally just succeeding as a mortgage professional comes down to
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  conversations. Conversations. And these conversations can happen on the phone. They can
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  happen over text, they can happen over email, they can happen over social media, DMs, video,
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  questions. Are you having enough and enough with the right people?
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  You know, a recent business planning class that I put together that I'm teaching multiple times
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  and some of our loan officer members are who are a member of our mortgage marketing pro membership
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  where they get a library of turnkey done for them classes, power points, speaker notes,
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  handbags, video tutorials, promotional materials, emails, SMS text messages, the whole nine yards.
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  They're presenting this class too. And in this class, and it's by the way, it's a great way to
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  get in front of real estate agents. I could tell you on and on success story after success story
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  of people that are winning virtually and in person by leading with education and agent classes.
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  If you want to know more about that, just go to mortgage marketing.pro, check it out.
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  But in this business planning class where I'll be and other loan officers will be hosting a business
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  planning class facilitating a business planning class for real estate agents. We have an example
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  in there from a gentleman who I had the privilege of interviewing a few years ago. His name is Tim
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  Smith with Coldwell Banker. And in 2020, Tim Smith team sold 700 million dollars of real estate.
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  That's a lot of real estate. And whenever I bring that up, I like to just clarify as it says,
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  okay, so he has a team. He sold 700 million. So people immediately start to discount. Wow,
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  it was a team. All right. So it's just for clarity. Say, let's just say, so Tim, you're right.
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  He only sold 600 million of the 700 million. All right. So you got me right there. Okay.
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  Here's Tim's daily action plan. Still it's called the 5542. Five conversations a day with people
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  you know, right? Who are these? These are past clients, fear of influence, right? People who know you.
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  Five conversations with people who you don't know. Those would be new leads. These would be
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  referral partners you haven't yet spoken to. By the way, what's that also called? That's called
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  prospecting. Remember that word? Yeah. And again, these can be through multiple channels.
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  Having a conversation with somebody you don't know in the DMs, that's a conversation in today's
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  world, right? So the five conversations to people, you know, five with you don't know the four
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  conversations with lead follow up. These are people you've connected with in the past who haven't
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  yet done business with you. So who could this be? These could be agents who are on the other
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  side of the transaction. You're representing the buyer. These could be the listing agents.
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  How many listing agents have you not called to pursue a conversation with that you've done
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  business with this year? That might be an interesting list for you to build and reach out to
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  you and talk about business planning for the new year. Hey, what are you doing? I'd love to
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  be a part of that. We worked great on that transaction together. Really enjoyed working with your
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  team. I hope you found that our transaction went smooth with no surprises and we really crushed
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  it for you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, great. Hey, look, I know you're a listing agent. I get it.
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  You may not work with a lot of buyers, but I'm really looking to right expand my relationships
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  with with power players here in my community. And I think there might be some things we can do
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  together to help each other achieve our goals next year. I don't know what your goals are,
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  but I'd love to learn more because I'm pretty confident our paths are going to cross in the future.
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  And I'd love to see how it can help you. All right, that's one example of the script completely
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  off the top of my head. Could you do that? How many people have you pre-qualified in the last six
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  months, three months that couldn't find the house, made offers on homes, got declined. They get
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  tired, needed to time out. It's the time to reach back out to them. Those are leads
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  who haven't yet done business with you, right? And then the two of the 5542 is two videos per day
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  or per week. You can choose whatever frequency you want there, two videos per day or two videos per
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  week. So these are videos that we typically go on social media or they could go to your past client
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  database, but these would be largely market related. It could be educational. It could be how to
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  leverage real estate to build wealth, financing, and also some personal stuff. But the point is,
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  are you putting yourself out there with video? If not, you're missing out for sure.
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  Okay, so that's an example of how to live intentional. Did you like those ideas?
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  Why else does intentional living make sense? It inspires you to make every day count, right?
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  See, you don't have to wait. I love this quote by where is it here? Why am I lost at this moment in time?
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  This quote by and Frank, how wonderful that no one needs to wait a single minute before improving the
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  world. What are you waiting for? Permission? You have it. You don't need to ask.
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  You can just get started. You can be intentional about your day. You can think ahead. You can plan
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  your day around the intentional activities, the small little disciplines that you repeat that are
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  going to build momentum and progress for you. It's about having an intentional mindset
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  and making the most of the blessing, the gift of the day that we have today,
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  tomorrow's unknown, tomorrow's uncertain for all of us. Should we plan for it? Sure.
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  But when it comes, let's make sure to embrace it and be intentional in lots of different ways.
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  Not just business. Be intentional in a relationship. Take time. Connect with somebody that matters to
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  you. Like I said earlier, make that call. Be kind. Be intentionally kind. Show grace to people who
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  may not deserve it or who you might not might not feel like giving grace to.
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  The cool thing about intentional living is it allows you to make changes one step at a time.
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  So there's probably more than one area for us to be intentional with, right? Here's the good news.
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  You don't have to change everything. But you have to change something because intentional people
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  understand that taking deliberate, consistent, and purposeful steps will improve your life
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  and the lives of people around you.
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  I remember, again, I guess this is back to Jim Rohn. This is just shows what a fanboy I am.
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  And when I first was, I think engaged to my wife or married and we start mapping out our goals
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  and things like this is going back now, you know, 20 years. And I remember having the conversation
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  that I borrowed from Jim Rohn, where he had this thing that talked about being in relationships
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  and being intentional and taking care of yourself. And the phrase was, I'll take care of me for you
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  if you'll take care of you for me. That makes sense. I'll take care of me for you if you'll
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  take care of you for me. What does that mean? Well, in simple terms, that means I'm not going to let
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  myself go. I'm not going to get fat, eat donuts, pop cheetos, and watch TV all day. That's not
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  taking care of myself for me, but it's also not taking care of myself for you. Because you married
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  somebody in a certain state. Now, I know we all change over time and age can be a cruel thing and
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  life happens and accidents and illnesses and things like that. So all that set aside, what I'm
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  talking about is the person who just lets it go, who doesn't hold themselves to the same high
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  standard that they did maybe years ago. And then that might be creating some problems.
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  And that's clearly not living intentional, right? So what do you have to change? What do you want
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  to change? Where in what areas of your life would you? Now, here's what's funny. That would
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  you like to be more intentional? Because that's quite passive, isn't it? That's quite,
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  that's the good intentions talking. Yeah, I'd really like to lose some weight. Yeah, I'd really like
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  to have better relationships. Yeah, I'd really like to make more money. That's weak.
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  Meaning non intentional. What is one to three areas of your life where you will commit?
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  What are they? And what are the intentional activities that you will build into your agenda?
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  Who do you want to be? Who are you?
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  You know, there's this thing of like, oh, in order to be somebody, I have to do these things,
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  right? In order to be successful, I've got to make a certain amount of money. I've got to do this.
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  In order to be a successful loan officer, I've got to, right, there's, there's the whole like,
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  do be have thing. And I've mentioned this briefly on previous podcasts, but that's not correct.
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  It's be do have. Who are you being? Because whoever you're being, that's what you're doing. And
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  whatever you're doing, that's what you're going to have. So if you're being somebody who is healthy,
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  you're not going to be doing unhealthy things consistently, right? We all fall off the wagon. We
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  all have a weekend, bender, have a pizza, whatever it is, right? That's okay. Live a little.
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  But if you are being or your identity is of one who's somebody who's healthy,
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  you're not going to be doing unhealthy things repeatedly. Therefore, you're going to get
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  the healthy outcome, energy, fitness. You're going to look good. You're going to be attractive.
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  You're going to feel more confident, right? So what's your identity when it comes to being a
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  mortgage professional or a real estate? Is your identity? I'm new. I'm trying to figure it out.
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  How long do you want to be new? How long do you want to have the mindset of a new person?
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  Who do you want to be as a mortgage professional? What is your identity? Are you transactional or
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  you relational? What are you building? Who are you being repeatedly? Because that is what's
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  going to determine what you do and thus what you get. Because your agenda, your daily agenda,
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  gets fed by your identity and more than anything else, that affects the outcome of your life.
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  If you want to achieve a certain thing, if you want to be more quote successful and in our business
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  that tends to be focused around the context of money, that's not the only metric of success
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  for sure. It's like it says in Atomic Habits, it's not about setting the goal.
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  Goal is just a target. You don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your
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  systems and habits. So what are the systems that you want to put in place in your life?
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  That will get you where you want to go. You've got to be that person first, that identity, right?
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  And I know the old fake it to you, make it thing. I think that only works for so long.
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  Because at some point your brain just starts telling you, you know what, who the hell are you
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  kidding? You are not this person. So eventually you get a self sabotage. I think here's how this
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  works is, even though this whole B do have, well, I'm going to be somebody who earns extra amount of
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  money. I'm going to be somebody who is highly educational when it comes to being a mortgage
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  professional. I'm going to be highly relational. In some of these things, I'm going to be a fit,
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  healthy person. Sometimes early in the journey, how do you prove it to yourself
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  when it's early and maybe you don't have a ton of references of, I'm, quote, a healthy person,
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  because you're on that, you're new, but you're on that journey, you're kind of new.
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  The way you build momentum is you prove it to this new identity, you reinforce it and back up
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  that new identity with the repeated disciplines, the repeated daily agenda, the repeated activities
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  repeated daily, weekly, then it goes out over a month, then it's three months, then it's six months,
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  then it's a year, and then it's three years, and then it's five years, and five years later,
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  you have a podcast that has half a million downloads and is interviewed over 220 of Americans
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  top mortgage and real estate professionals, five years. It's kind of like that old saying,
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  right, that journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step. Yeah, kind of cheesy cliche,
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  but it's true. It does. What it didn't say is you take one step and sit down, right?
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  It said a thousand steps. You keep walking, walking, walking, moving forward, moving forward, moving forward,
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  and the key is making progress. Are you making real progress? You can't be a rocking chair and be
• 33:45
  successful. You can be successful at not moving anywhere, not making any progress forward progress,
• 33:52
  because the rocking chair looks real busy. You probably might be real busy with everything you
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  got going on in your business. That's a whole other episode to talk about structure and management
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  and hiring and assistant and delegating, right? But never confused being busy with making progress.
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  And you can't do it all at once. So close this out. What is one to three areas
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  that you would like to make a positive change in 2022?
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  I'd love you for you to write them down. Share them.
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  Pop in the Facebook group at mortgage marketing radio. Let me know what has come out of this
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  conversation for you. Choose one of the things this week whenever you're listening to this and
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  just and do it. You could choose something bigger, small, but just choose one thing and one thing
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  on one area, right? One area and one thing that you'll complete within seven days of hearing this
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  podcast. And I'd love to hear what the action you intend to take this week is. You pop in the
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  Facebook group at mortgage marketing radio and you can say, I'm going to make 25 calls this week.
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  I'm going to have five meetings. I'm going to go to the gym three times this week. I'm going to
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  write, stop smoking. I'm going to schedule date night with my wife or vice versa of my husband.
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  My significant other. What are they? Got to be intentional about it.
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  As we opened up by saying, right, a successful life doesn't happen by accident.
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  It happens by living an intentional life. And having an agenda that's deliberate, consistent and
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  willful of following through consistently an agenda that supports your identity.
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  So I hope you found this valuable. That's my little personal development session here today.
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  If you want more of that kind of stuff, hey, it's also what we do in our small group with the
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  mortgage marketing pro membership. I told you about that a few minutes ago. You want to learn more
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  about what we do there. It's a short video. Go to mortgagemarketing.pro, check it out.
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  And it might be a fit for you. It very well might not be. And that's okay too.
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  So that's what I got this week. And I look forward to coming back to you next week. Thanks for
• 36:35
  tuning in. And I appreciate you. See you on the next one. Bye for now.
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  where you simply need more purchased loans. You need to fill your pipeline with purchase
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