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[15/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 13 (Aug 2021) · Lama Lena Teachings

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today we have our monthly continuation of Flight of the Garuda.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: We are on, I think, or other people seem to think because I'm not keeping track.
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  SPEAKER_00: Chapter 13, song 13.
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  SPEAKER_00: Instructions in creative emotivity,
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  SPEAKER_00: working with emotions, which is the retreat coming up this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: Short version coming now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Long version coming up this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if there are still places open for it,
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  SPEAKER_00: but should you find the short version insufficient to your personal needs,
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  SPEAKER_00: check and see real quick.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: To see if you can get on the list for the retreat.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have a cutoff number on that retreat of the number of people that I can give
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  SPEAKER_00: a certain amount of individual attention to as I like to do during retreats.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that should be set at 50.
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  SPEAKER_00: And have invites gone out for it yet?
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  SPEAKER_01: For which one?
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  SPEAKER_00: The weekend retreat.
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  SPEAKER_01: The working with emotions?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, those don't go out until Tuesday.
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  SPEAKER_00: So those in Tuesday, but oh, it's not this week, this weekend is over.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The invite should be going out for that on Tuesday.
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  SPEAKER_00: You better be on the list before then.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jan handles lists.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: Telling me that you want to be on the list has absolutely no effect.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't do lists.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not good at lists.
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  SPEAKER_00: We need a Virgo for the lists.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am not a Virgo.
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  SPEAKER_00: It isn't really astrological.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just a good term to describe a certain attention to detail that is not my forte.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm an old cave yogi, a mystic,
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  SPEAKER_00: not a detail-oriented person.
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  SPEAKER_00: So contact Jan if what we do today Is insufficient for your needs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we will try to get you into the retreat for this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: Durji Sempa Garab Durji Dam,
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  SPEAKER_00: Sheri Sengibar Dushin Labdi,
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  SPEAKER_00: Deidam Avzantata Tusum Chi,
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  SPEAKER_00: Zogchen Jupe Lama La Solu Wa Deb,
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  SPEAKER_00: Urgin Pema Juni La Solu Wa Deb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Durjichang titilo narodang,
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  SPEAKER_00: marpa mila gompo tsa tsa pa,
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  SPEAKER_00: na pupadang palden drupasuk,
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  SPEAKER_00: kargyu lama namla sol wadib,
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  SPEAKER_00: ochen lama namla sol wadib,
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  SPEAKER_00: Ndruchen Lama Namla Sol Vah
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  SPEAKER_00: Dev.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kaginwari Lama Namla Sol Vah Dev.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shakyat Lama Namla Sol Vah Dev.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nyandudha Yundrun Lama Namla Sol Vah Dev.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: An addendum to any of you who are new to Zogchen.
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  SPEAKER_00: To participate in this retreat,
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  SPEAKER_00: there is a prerequisite,
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  SPEAKER_00: not for today, the short version, but for this weekend's long version.
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  SPEAKER_00: You need to be quite skilled at working with thoughts already.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you do not have this skill at seeing thoughts as they arise for what they are,
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  SPEAKER_00: You will not be able to use this method of working with emotions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Therefore,
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  SPEAKER_00: for those of you who are uncertain on your skill of working with thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_00: nam talk, discursive thoughts, which do arise and which always will,
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  SPEAKER_00: although
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  SPEAKER_00: You will be able to,
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  SPEAKER_00: once you develop the skill,
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  SPEAKER_00: perceive them differently and not stick them together into discursion but
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  SPEAKER_00: to allow them to rest singly as no thing in nowhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: This skill is needed.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have a group that will help you develop that skill if you don't have it.
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  SPEAKER_00: That group is called Working with thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_00: It comes before working with emotions if you have not developed that skill on your own.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be honest here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's for your own sake that we set the prerequisite.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I want you to be able to do what is taught as it is taught.
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  SPEAKER_00: Rather than to come up with something altogether different that you made up
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  SPEAKER_00: because it was easier.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that won't work.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is an ancient lineage.
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  SPEAKER_00: It has been tried and tested altogether for over 30,000 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Possibly more than that, elsewhere, else when.
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  SPEAKER_00: But around here, that, with Homo sapiens and others who have contributed to this evolution.
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  SPEAKER_00: After this much time, we have sort of figured out what works and what doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: The new methods that everyone is coming up with these days and teaching on internet seminars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe give it a few thousand years, see if it sticks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or give it a try if you like to be experimental.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I certainly can't vouch for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So to begin with the text, eh, it's a glasses day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some days I need them, some days I don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: There, now I look like a proper scholar and librarian.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm faking it, I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just an old cave yogi.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing more.
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  SPEAKER_00: None less.
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  SPEAKER_00: Emma Ho is the Tibetan exclamation for Eureka, if you wish to translate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now listen once again to this vagrant singing.
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  SPEAKER_00: At one time or another, all of you have been injured by others
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  SPEAKER_00: Consciously,
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  SPEAKER_00: recollect in detail how others have wrongfully accused you and victimized you,
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  SPEAKER_00: humiliating and grinding you into the ground,
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  SPEAKER_00: how you were shamed and deeply mortified, brewed on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tell yourself the stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: We start with fear and anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because for most people,
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  SPEAKER_00: that category of emotion,
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  SPEAKER_00: fear and anger of the eastern direction,
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  SPEAKER_00: of the white color of the dawn,
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  SPEAKER_00: fear and anger of the intensity of the first light,
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  SPEAKER_00: these are all symbols.
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  SPEAKER_00: We categorize the 51
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  SPEAKER_00: Homo sapien emotions
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  SPEAKER_00: into five categories only for the purpose of making it easy
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  SPEAKER_00: to work with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because these categories are man-made, not everything will fit nicely.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how categories work.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it does give you a handle on them, a way of approaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're starting with fear and anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bring it on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sit for a minute.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember.
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  SPEAKER_00: Brood.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tell yourself sad, nasty, angry, frightening stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bring up the feeling as intensely as you can in your solar plexus and in the rest of your body.
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  SPEAKER_00: As it arises,
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  SPEAKER_00: in the moment of arising,
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  SPEAKER_00: look directly at its essence, at the hatred itself, the anger, the fear, the terror.
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  SPEAKER_00: Discover first where it comes from, second where it is now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And finally, where it goes when you're done feeling it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look directly at mind with mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look carefully for its color and shape.
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  SPEAKER_00: See if it has any other characteristics.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do it now.
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  SPEAKER_00: There will be noted two aspects
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  SPEAKER_00: to this emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of them is physical.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your adrenals will release adrenaline.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your stomach will tighten down.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your parasympathetic tone will diminish and your sympathetic tone will increase.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is physical and hormonal when experiencing an emotion, especially fear and anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is the physical sensation of the emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: But there is also the story you have told yourself to bring up the emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: The story is made of words, of thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Strip that emotion naked.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of the story that sustains it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do this by seeing the nature of these thoughts while you think them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sopa, the third word of Garab Dorji.
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  SPEAKER_00: Meditating while thinking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do it now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Strip off the entire story of why you're angry, why you shouldn't be angry.
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  SPEAKER_00: The terrible things about being angry,
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  SPEAKER_00: the dangers of being angry,
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  SPEAKER_00: the fact that whatever happened to you was real or the fact that whatever happened
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  SPEAKER_00: to you was all in your head and not real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let go of the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Rest.
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  SPEAKER_00: With your attention, the attention of your mind on mind on the infinite openness of awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Take away even the underwear, strip it naked totally.
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  SPEAKER_00: The underwear is the name of the emotion, fear or anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: See through that as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a word.
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  SPEAKER_00: You made it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's in your language.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remaining, there is a sensation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not focus on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not look away from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Leave it be as it is,
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  SPEAKER_00: without poking at it,
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  SPEAKER_00: without reifying it,
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  SPEAKER_00: without describing it, without focusing on it, without ignoring it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pure,
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  SPEAKER_00: clear, transparent energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Surely the vision of your anger is ultimately empty and ungraspable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not reject your anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you are not reifying the story of it,
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  SPEAKER_00: naming it, cherishing it, shoving it away, or doing anything whatsoever to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pure, clear, transparent energy of the mirror-like awareness
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  SPEAKER_00: itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are there questions?
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not related yet to Flight of the Garuda, there's some more general questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Give them a minute.
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  SPEAKER_00: Questions on just what I taught right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who is the looker?
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  SPEAKER_00: You are the looker.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not your personality.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your attention.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your ability to think,
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  SPEAKER_00: perceive,
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  SPEAKER_00: and feel your very vitality and awareness Unadulterated by the stories of
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  SPEAKER_00: which your personality is made.
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  SPEAKER_00: If any more questions come, let me know.
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  SPEAKER_01: It looks like pure, intense energy when stripped naked.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why does this energy come up in the first place?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you are alive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Vital, awake, and aware.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you are, Sambhogakaya nature of mind, the very symbol.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of lucidity, of awakeness and awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Therefore you are capable of thinking, feeling, and perceiving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is the nature of all life, infinitely open,
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  SPEAKER_00: vital and lucid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dancing with the clear light sparkle of creativity to create
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  SPEAKER_00: thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_00: feelings, and perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are what experiences are made of.
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  SPEAKER_00: And nary a one of these is a single thing in a single where.
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  SPEAKER_00: Empty of characteristics, vast beyond fathoming.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lucid,
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  SPEAKER_00: clear light nature is a symbol of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the sparkle,
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  SPEAKER_00: the shimmer of the clear light is a symbol of the inherent creativity
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  SPEAKER_00: of this vitality which pervades all and everything called life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sentience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Other questions?
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  SPEAKER_01: How is the solar plexus involved in causing anger to rise when working with emotions?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do we imagine it rising from there?
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a sense organ called the Yi.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tibetans talk about six senses.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Yi is located as a bunch of neural tissue surrounding your gut.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is extremely sensitive to neurotransmitters.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also which creates some neurotransmitters.
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  SPEAKER_00: For this reason, sensations are often felt in this area.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a chakra here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Behind your xiphoid process,
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  SPEAKER_00: Back towards the middle of you in front of your spine,
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  SPEAKER_00: about the size of the palm of your hand.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's called the heart chakra.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tibetans
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  SPEAKER_00: feel themselves to be there in the same way that Westerners feel themselves to be here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Both are an illusion.
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  SPEAKER_00: You aren't unaware there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are we liberating this energy?
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  SPEAKER_00: Depending on what you mean by that word, probably.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I let it go, I'm assuming she means the emotion, it brings another emotion, joy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And my heart and energy that was quivering is now smoother yet more powerful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Should I just let that sensation go as well?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not grab it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cherish it or try to keep it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not shove it away.
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  SPEAKER_00: Suppress it or try to get rid of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Leave it be as it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: I realize the energy, but then I get carried away by the cognitive trend.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I do?
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  SPEAKER_00: Join the group working with thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: Spend more time working on seeing through the cognitive trend while it's happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: More time on the cushion, I'm afraid, is the only answer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Next.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why is it so hard sometimes to not get sucked into an emotion even
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  SPEAKER_01: though I can feel it's not empty?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you have been doing so from beginningless time, eon upon eon, on this world and others.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a really deep habit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Habits can be broken.
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  SPEAKER_00: Choose to break it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do thoughts always precede emotions?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes emotions occur first.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have been known after too little sleep To wake up in a total grouch,
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  SPEAKER_00: which if I don't get coffee soon enough to resolve that hormonally,
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  SPEAKER_00: remains for a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: Once I'm in a grouch,
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  SPEAKER_00: I can think of all sorts of things to be grouchy about, but it started physically.
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  SPEAKER_00: Panic attacks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes they happen and you don't know why you're afraid.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you look around at the world, you can find a reason.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your personal world or the news in general.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's easy to be finding something to be afraid of or angry at if that's how you suddenly feel.
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  SPEAKER_00: So no, sometimes the emotions come first.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is
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  SPEAKER_00: An entanglement, thoughts and emotions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Being made of the same not stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: They really can't be separated.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for the purposes of this practice, we approach in stages.
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  SPEAKER_00: We pretend That they are separate.
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  SPEAKER_00: To give us an ease of working with them, just like we pretend that there are six categories.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, five categories.
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  SPEAKER_00: For ease of working with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mind made.
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  SPEAKER_00: But damn useful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mathematics is mind made.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at what you can do with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's an entire language that can say things that can't be said in English or Tibetan.
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  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that marvelous?
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet it is like any language, mind made.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: The energy of fear is right in my throat chakra.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel kind of strangled.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do I need to focus on it?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's strong and mind wants to escape it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You need to neither focus on it nor flee from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You need to leave it be exactly as it is and not mind the sensation.
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  SPEAKER_00: This will take a little skill.
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  SPEAKER_00: By practice, you will develop that skill.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does the wisdom of the mirror refer to?
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  SPEAKER_01: What would that wisdom be?
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  SPEAKER_00: Equanimity.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll show you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have my bag of tricks hanging off the back of the chair.
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  SPEAKER_00: The mirror reflects.
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  SPEAKER_00: The mirror does not judge.
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  SPEAKER_00: The mirror reflects
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  SPEAKER_00: what it is pointed at
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  SPEAKER_00: without judging,
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  SPEAKER_00: without refusing, with complete equanimity and absolute clarity.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have Two mirrors.
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  SPEAKER_00: Watch.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now what do they reflect?
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  SPEAKER_00: And now
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Would this apply to all stories, including those that want to benefit others?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: The kindly Christian gave to the cold and freezing Native Americans blankets
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  SPEAKER_00: which were no longer wanted.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were not wanted as they had belonged to soldiers dying of smallpox.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thousands were wiped out in kindness.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Indian schools in Canada
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  SPEAKER_00: were created by well-meaning
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  SPEAKER_00: Fools who believed in white man's burden.
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  SPEAKER_00: To help the poor savages acculturate,
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  SPEAKER_00: hundreds of babies were killed and died from neglect.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the story the perpetrators told themselves
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  SPEAKER_01: was that they were of benefit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Once, a group of Tibetans on the island of Hong Kong,
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  SPEAKER_00: who were completely unfamiliar with the idea of ocean,
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: save as a mythical place, decided to do a good deed.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: In Hong Kong, frog's legs are a delicacy.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: There were many, many bullfrogs for sale at the butcher's live.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: They bought them all to rescue them.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: And they took them out into the ocean on a boat and released them.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: Saltwater is an unpleasant death
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: for freshwater frogs.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Ignorance
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: is at the root of all evil, and much of it pretends to be good.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Look at your politicians.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care what country you're in, look at your friggin' politicians.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: They're all pretending, claiming to do the right thing.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Ignorance.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Is this a technique?
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: To release emotions temporarily only in preparation for concentration practice.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Hell no.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Is Treksha a deeper and more durable way?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: This is Treksha.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is not a band-aid.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is a necessary stage of learning Treksha.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because you are A sentient being.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: As such, you think and you feel and you perceive.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: And until you truly see
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: All, without exception,
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: thoughts,
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: feelings,
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: and perceptions for what they really are in each and every moment unequivocally.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: You will not have mastered Treksha.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oops.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Is the feeling of a me as impermanent as feelings of anger, joy, etc.?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, not quite in the same way.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: The feelings of a me is something you have been experiencing for eons.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's a habit.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: There's always a you.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's not always this you.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: But there's always something that feels like it's you.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: That you can remember being if you remember your past lives.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you accomplish Tonglen very skillfully.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: If
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: you have the skill set to do that and the teachings and the practice,
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: you will also experience the me of other beings concurrent with your being.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: Until the end.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: That is not a right way to say it.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: I lack the vocabulary.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: I apologize.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: To speak of the reality of meanness.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: There are no words in English.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I speak this language fairly well.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I have read scholars such as Evans Wentz, who speak it better than I.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I speak it fairly well.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: There's a Japanese word for it.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Moo.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Go look it up.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: A couple of people asked about pain with this practice.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: Does this same practice work with physical pain?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: And a second person asked about meditating through strong pain.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: This practice helps with pain.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: It helps the pain not bother you.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: It does not delete the physical sensation.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: At my personal skill level, I can work with physical pain up to a seven or an eight.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm not trying to also cook supper
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: or do the laundry
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: or talk to someone.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Four and five is no biggie.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: I can maintain the necessary levels through that while being active.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: But once we get into six, seven, and eight, I have to actually sit there.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's my skill level at working with pain.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's been about 10 or 15 years since I began to deal with,
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: no, maybe more, maybe closer to 20 since I began to deal with chronic pain.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: I've had both hips replaced.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's some other issues going on.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's osteoarthritis, old folks' disease.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: From having fallen off too many horses and down too many mountains
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: and been washed away by too many rivers in my youth and never really properly taken
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: the time to treat any of the minor injuries.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: So there are calcifications and by this age calcifications hurt.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: So no, there's nothing serious wrong with me.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just old.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: Old folks hurt.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: It does not make the pain go away.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: The sensation, it makes the sensation not bother you.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: Which is kind of what morphine does too.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd say yes,
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: you can work with it and get it to a point where it's about as effective as morphine
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: but less fun.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe more fun actually when I come to think of it.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: I had morphine when my hips were getting done, so I'm quite familiar with it.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: If I try to invoke strong feelings, they don't take or have a big reality.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: I feel okay with this, even glad.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: Should I invoke the glad feeling advice for what I should do?
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: Under what circumstances?
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: Do you actually experience strong feelings?
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: And wait till we get an answer and give me another question.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: OK.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: Can the same practice of just letting it be not grasping or pushing away be useful
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: for people with OCD too?
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: I have OCD to some extent.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: Poor Nyando puts up with it.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's a very specific order the knives on the magnetic knife born are supposed to be in.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Fortunately, I have enough sense not to try to get her to put them in that order.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: When it bothers me, I rearrange them.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't bother me that often.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I just let it be a bother.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: When you live with others and you have OCD, you learn a lot of compromises.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure whether it's my ability to compromise or my ability
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: to let it not bother me that is actually doing the job.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Haven't thought about that before.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: Did we get any answer back from the person on circumstances?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, no, not so far.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, next question.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic teaching.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy while being present with the Lama,
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: but when the teaching is over, everything else goes out the window.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: What should I do?
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: Practice.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember learning to ride a bicycle?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: It was easy with Daddy hanging on to your bicycle and keeping it upright.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Or with the training wheels.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: But you fell over when he let go.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: The first couple of times.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: He got back on.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: Now you can ride a bicycle.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Practice.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: That was too easy.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to parse this one question.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: If one sees thoughts just for what they are,
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_01: does that mean that anger no longer arises or is quickly dissolved?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Neither.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: Anger will arise because you are alive.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: Until you have practiced and become skillful at working with emotions.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the purpose of this is not to dissolve the anger.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: It is to free the anger into the ability to transform into what it actually is,
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: which is mirror-like wisdom.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Your clench on it
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: is squishing it into the shape of anger.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: When you actually manage to let go, mirror-like wisdom of equanimity is what will arise.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: But dissolving it is not the point.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: If you were to dissolve it, you would dissolve your wisdom and your clarity.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to do that.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Wisdom and clarity is something you like, isn't it?
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: To go back to the previous question about strong feelings,
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: the questioner says,
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: I experience strong feelings with happiness and positive feelings,
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: helping and connecting with others,
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: and sometimes interacting with what seem like negative people.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: She gets positive feelings from being able to.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: She gets the stronger feelings when that happens.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: You have suppressed a part of yourself.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: The whole fear-anger part,
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: to be a good person or what you think is a good person, has been squished.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: I have no training in how to bring it back for you.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: Please talk to your therapist.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't have one, go talk to Jan, who is somewhat trained in this area.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone,
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: when you see
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: what scientists do to rabbits, Testing cosmetics.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: Do you not have a feeling?
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: When you see what
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_00: certain parts of society do to certain other parts of society,
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: does it not arise in you a feeling?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder what country you're in.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Iceland maybe?
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Or Holland?
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're in America,
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: you're nuts if you don't have strong feelings about some of the shit going down.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Iceland and Holland are known for being a lot more even keel culturally.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: But they still have their crap.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why aren't you seeing the negative as well as the positive?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: What have you done with it?
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: I suspect, suspect, not uncertain, because I don't know who I'm talking to.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have a name.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't to put you together with a person.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: But if I get you in a retreat, we can talk more.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Person to person and I can get a picture of you.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I suspect you have suppressed negativity because people love people
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: who are positive and it makes you a good person to be positive and to even be able
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: to be positive with negative people.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, what a wonderful person this has made you.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_00: But not a real person, a shadow.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: Of your potential.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: Go fix it.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Is me a wrong understanding of the ongoing awareness of being?
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: Is this awareness the same as the looker?
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: Me is a construct.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: It is not wrong, but it is made up.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: It is not real.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: Me is an idea.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_00: As such, it's a nam talk.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: No more real than any other.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: Not wrong, just not real.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: Incomplete.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: Limited.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: Can we deal with fear triggered by actual physical danger in the same way?
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: After several years of practice, maybe.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: In an ongoing group,
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: after a couple of years,
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: I would send you off to amusement parks to find the scariest ride,
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: which was probably safe,
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: and have you try it while doing the practice.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: The idea is to place yourself in fear safely.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: Without actually jeopardizing your life.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: To be able to do it in the round, we call it.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: I learned that from Nine Fingered Top Gel, a great yogi and one of my teachers.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: He was called Nine Fingered Top Gel because he had wrapped his finger in
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: an oil soaked rag and lit it on fire.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: And done Korah around the Bodh Gaya stupa while it burned down to here.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: He was going to do the one on the other hand, but his teacher said that wouldn't be necessary.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: He was
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: not sane by any common definition.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Taught me a shit lot of stuff.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Until my teacher,
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'd been off holidaying with him and his wife told me he was going to get me killed
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: if I stayed there and I was to come back.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I did.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there were a couple of close calls.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I learned a lot about working in the round.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: It is not easy.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: Work on the cushion for a long time first.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: Earlier you were talking about some of the harms that can be accomplished
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: when you're well-meaning.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: So the question is how can these practices Help deal with social injustice
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: that you see around you, knowing that being well-meaning may cause harm.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because as you complete more and more of them,
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_00: your
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: perception of the world will become clearer and you will be less likely
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: to hide your emotional Motivations from yourself.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: And more likely to be open-hearted and open-minded,
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: which will in fact allow you to see better what really will benefit.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: But there is no one way.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_00: Each situation is unique unto itself.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: We always,
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: as sentient beings,
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: associate our current situation with past situations that we have learned from.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so put a veil of what has gone before over what is happening now and respond
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: to what is happening now according to what has happened before,
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: often inappropriately.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: These practices over time
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: get the smooch off your glasses
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: so you can see more clearly.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: Less will fall in your own shadow.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: In the song, the instruction leads to view anger as empty, but anger is still felt.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: How does this transform into wisdom?
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_00: Once you strip anger of its name, it is not anger.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: It is a sensation.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Once you cease to reject Or grasp, neither focusing on nor hiding from that sensation.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_00: It is freed, unsquished, unconstrained by your habit patterns.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: It is allowed to take its natural state.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: And the natural state of fear, anger, is the mirror-like wisdom of amongst others.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: Akshobia.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: Do we have another?
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_01: How about seeing scary movies to practice?
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: If it works for you, go for it.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: For me, reading the news works great.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: I live in America.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: Are there any stories where the fear and anger of the East is symbolized
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: by white fire, specifically?
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the white fire of dawn, the white clear light of dawn.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's a fire symbol.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: But not flames hotter than that, like the core of a sun, like the core of a white dwarf.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: Will the practice sustain resilience?
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a health care worker who feels like a hamster running on a wheel living
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: the same day over and over.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: Combine it on working with thoughts.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_00: You are a great hero.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_00: And that is a hard road to hoe.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: Especially now.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_00: Caring for idiots who wouldn't get vaccinated for the most part.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_00: And children who couldn't.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: May the CDC get its head out of its butt on that one.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: It is a difficult time and it's not about to get easier.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, this will help with resilience, but also please take care of your body.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: Have a spa day.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: Do what you need to do to support yourself so that you can support the others
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: because we sorely are going to need all of you.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for what you're doing.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: From the fullness of my heart.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: Any tips for when letting go starts to lead to procrastination or avoiding?
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: I do not quite understand in this context how you mean that.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because the letting go in this context,
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure how it would do that.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_00: When you
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: accept the sensation without grasping or shoving it away,
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: there is nothing to procrastinate against.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_00: You just sit there with it.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_00: Let it do whatever it's going to do.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_00: You just do that.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: There's no later to do that.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because once you've grabbed or shoved, you've squished stuff.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: Then you have to start at the beginning again getting the stuff you used,
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: which is some kind of story, off of it.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: Strip it again.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's what you mean?
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: There was one.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_01: If I often feel disconnected from my surroundings and emotions,
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: like an outside observer, is it too early to work on traction?
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, but I recommend concurrent Western therapy for disassociation.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's usually due to PTSD, some kind of post-traumatic.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_00: EMDR is a good method.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people have shut themselves down because whatever was going on got too strong for them.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_00: If you wish to progress in treachery, you will have to wake it back up.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_00: But not alone.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_00: A good therapist can help you wake it back up and transform it into manageable bites.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: Many of the Tibetan refugees have had similar problems.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: We had someone over there working on EMDR with some of them and it was incredibly effective.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: So try that first.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: It only takes a couple of sessions,
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_00: making it cost-effective and easy in a busy life, which you might be having.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes while falling asleep,
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_01: there is a fear and dread of,
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: quote, me, end of quote, disappearing into non-existence.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_01: How can I deal with this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sit up and do the practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good times.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: Go to bed a little earlier so that you have time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: Can the energy when it stabilizes be redirected?
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: Why on earth would you want to aim it anywhere?
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  SPEAKER_00: It is perfect exactly where and as it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is nothing you need to do with it once it has been freed and allowed to return
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  SPEAKER_00: to its natural state of mirror-like wisdom.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_00: Leave it be as it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really great as it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing there to fix.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: Most of the remaining questions are fairly general.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then let's leave that and go on to the next emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sex.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_00: Lust.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: Another fairly even easy one to work with.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine your favorite fetish.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whatever it is, nobody's hearing you think.
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  SPEAKER_00: Imagine it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get a hard on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Make your tits stand up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have a sex fantasy.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: You can even try some porn when you're working on this later.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: Feel the lust.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feel it with the entirety of yourself.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_00: Then all you lovers, think of the beautiful man or woman in your heart.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: If your favorite thing is food,
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  SPEAKER_00: consider the food you crave.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_00: Meat, cake, chocolate, whatever.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_00: Those of you who are into fashion,
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: You strutting peacocks, recall and dwell on the clothes you like to wear.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_00: You avarice traders, think about the form of wealth you desire, horses, jewelry, or cash.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_00: Carefully consider these matters.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: Allow desire to arise.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: I always found sex easiest of these.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_01: What comes second?
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe fashion.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_00: The food is good.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: Allow it to arise.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: When it arises, look directly at its essence to be able to do that.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_00: Strip it naked of the story you used to bring it up.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: There is a deep level which is a want like a baby's want for the tit.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_00: Deep desire.
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  SPEAKER_00: Take away the name.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_00: There is a sense of hollowness echoing, wanting to be filled.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look directly at its essence.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's the greedy, lustful self.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is mind looking at mind.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: Mind, mind looking.
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  SPEAKER_00: The infinite open awareness sees itself as it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: The thought surrounding the feeling dissolves.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: A sensation remains.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: The method of seeking where it comes from,
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: where it is now and where it goes is useful.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: To simply see it as it is, which is the key.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_00: Don't grab it.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_00: Don't shove it away.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: Don't suppress it.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: Don't try not to feel it.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_00: Don't try to get rid of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let it go.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: Ratnasambhava.
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  SPEAKER_00: Golden color of the fertile earth in the southern direction.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_00: Rich with all the variegated textures of the universe.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_00: Form and emptiness interpenetrating in utter satisfaction.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: The wish-fulfilling jewel itself.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_00: When you stop squishing it, it arises as that.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: The vision of your desire is ultimately empty and ungraspable.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_00: Do not reject it.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_00: Discriminating awareness.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_00: Try it.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_00: This yearning comes forth in your everyday life.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_00: As always trying to fix things.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's over here, so you move it over there.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's dusty, so you wipe it.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_00: You're always trying to make things perfect.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_00: And you never can, can you?
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: Keep trying, yeah?
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_00: Talk about hamster wheels.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_00: Are there any questions on this one?
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: Give people a moment.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: By the way,
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: discriminating awareness Does not mean what the word discrimination means
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_00: in English.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Look, look closely at this basket.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Can you see the different colors used to weave it and the patterns woven into it?
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: This basket is from Bhutan.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was given to me by my teacher's teacher, One Losar.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_00: Your ability to discriminate between the different colors when you look at it,
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_00: that's discriminating awareness.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Your ability to see the difference between a leaf and a flower,
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_00: between one bug and another, between one object
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: And another.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so to use them appropriately.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's what is meant by discriminating awareness.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_01: Got any questions yet?
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Do you like the word discerning to replace discriminating?
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: I do, thank you.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'll keep that.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Discerning awareness is an actual better name for what it actually means.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Is the hollowness itself just a misperception?
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: It is a distortion, yes.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_01: How is it that one can feel immense anger for injustice but at
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_01: the same time feel tremendous love, care,
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_01: and tenderness for your attacker known and for the unknowns and how to understand
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: or cope with this?
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm perplexed with sadness.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't approached sadness and depression yet.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Stick with the ones we've done already.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's coming next time.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Just looking around here.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_01: Why does lust lead to discriminative awareness?
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think this may be the richness of phenomena.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine it.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_00: How many tastes there are in all the cultures of all the cuisines in the world.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_00: How many things there are to see in even a small garden like mine.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Texture of richness.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_00: We're in the southern direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Related to poverty, lack, and pretas when you squish
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_00: discerning awareness.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's not all a blank nothing.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Look at it all.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Look around you.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the tonkas.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the colors.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the altar.
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_00: So many colors and textures in phenomena.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Now, we only have a very limited number of cones which see colors in our retina.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Sparrows have hundreds more.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine what colors a sparrow sees.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Or a squid.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine the songs a dolphin and a whale can hear in their own language, the amazing poetry.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine a sentient crystal singing on a planet far, far away.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine the song of stars which are themselves alive.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Big out there.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_01: Marvelously big.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_00: The richness of texture is the opposite of poverty.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_00: It is absolute satisfaction.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_00: The wish-fulfilling jewel.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_01: How can one still have desire for someone when you are aware of all of this?
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hormones.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_00: I may be old, but I'm still horny.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't do students, so don't even think about it.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_01: How do the emotions relate to magnetization?
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe we need some clarification.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_01: There?
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_00: No, I know what he means.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Not in a direct way that it would be easy to enumerate.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Indirectly, yes, but not in a way I can really explain to you at this level.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_01: How can I continue awareness of wisdom in everyday life after the formal meditation?
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_00: GOM.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_00: You will find more on that in intermediate teaching group,
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_00: which I try to do more or less once a month to get together with people working
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_00: on GOM.
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  SPEAKER_00: Short glimpses.
• 1:17:34
  SPEAKER_00: To quote Garab Dorji,
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_00: at all times and in all circumstances,
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_00: notice the already known Dharmakaya nature of mind, Dawa.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_00: To quote Jang Chub Dorji,
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_00: my own teachers,
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_00: one of my own teacher's teachers,
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Hazoya's root guru, I would say, and also Norba Rinpoche's root guru.
• 1:18:05
  SPEAKER_00: While walking and talking, getting up and sitting down, eating or whatever you do.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Notice nature of mind as it is.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's called gum.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_00: You do that and it'll work.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_01: If this is an attempt at traction,
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_01: does the release of strong emotion lasting 30 seconds or less count as a glimpse
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_01: or is it wishful thinking?
• 1:18:57
  SPEAKER_00: First, okay, you're using the word release.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'll accept that word.
• 1:19:04
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't think that what you mean by release is what I mean.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Release, you let go of them.
• 1:19:16
  SPEAKER_00: You release them into their natural state, yes.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_00: But if it's only lasting 30 seconds, you're having a nyam.
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  SPEAKER_00: A come and go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Comes and it goes.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a glimpse.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Now practice so that it stabilizes.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:19:46
  SPEAKER_01: I was made to do magic mushrooms by a friend.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_01: We OD'd.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_01: I experienced death but called Tara and she gave me strength to call an ambulance.
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_01: She appeared in a few paramedics, experienced Bardo.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_01: I decided to stay for my daughter.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_01: I am recovering, but is my practice ruined?
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, not at all.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Magic mushrooms won't hurt your practice.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're psychedelic.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_00: They give you a short, quick tour of somewhere interesting, and they bring you back.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Keep practicing.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing's ruined.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_00: You just had an experience.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_00: You had a near-death experience.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, those can be useful.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_00: But I see no problem.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_00: I've probably taken more of them than most people at some point or another.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_00: They temporarily affect your practice while you're on them.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_01: But then you come down again.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Next.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Does this practice lead to dispassion?
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Dispassion is lack of passion.
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to get rid of passion.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Passion is part of the
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_00: multifarousness of phenomena, of inner phenomena.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to delete anything.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Just free it.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_01: The rest of the questions are general.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, then I think we have gone far enough for today.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_00: I've given you desire and fear anger to work with.
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_00: Work with them.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is an ongoing instruction, this Flight of Garuda.
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_00: It happens every month or so.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: You go ahead and work with these.
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you feel ready,
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_00: that is,
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_00: seeing the nature of your thoughts while thinking is not terribly hard for you,
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_00: then consider joining the retreat if you want more.
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_00: Otherwise,
• 1:22:24
  SPEAKER_00: I will come back and we will work with Depression,
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_00: loneliness, and competitiveness next time.
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_00: But get a handle on these first.
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_00: You've got about a month to work with them.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Get good at it.
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_00: They're the easiest ones for most people to do.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_00: I will take a few general questions before we sign off.
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's one person who talked about their daughter is two years old and in
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_01: the hospital after being cursed by a Buddhist person and wants
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_01: to know what they should do.
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_01: I've also recommended they email you directly.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Email me directly, but that was not a Buddhist person.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_00: That was some kind of nutcase.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Buddhist people, cursing is against our vows.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Can't be done.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_00: If we break a vow enough to do such a thing,
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_00: at least in the lineages that I am familiar with, we lose the power to be effective.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_00: If you live near the sea,
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Get some seawater, clean seawater from a clean area.
• 1:24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Soak a washcloth in it and just wring a bit on the top of her head,
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_00: wipe her face and her hands and feet as if you're giving a little wash
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_00: with seawater.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's Wiccan, but it'll get most anything off
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_00: as far as curses go.
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_00: The only other thing I can suggest for you is to contact our sponsorship group
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_00: and have someone do special demon repellent ceremonies for her out in India.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_00: We know the people who can do that.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_00: However, no one of the Mahayana lineage can curse.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_00: We just don't have the power.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck, we'd have used it on the Chinese.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_00: You break the power if you try because you break the vows and then the power's gone.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean we can't say goddamn motherfucker, but that's a different kind of cursing.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's a stubbed your toe kind of cursing.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we can do that.
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_00: But to actually throw a curse on another sentient being?
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Can't do it.
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean physically can't do it.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_00: The attempt would break the vows enough that you would lose the ability to do so.
• 1:25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't even try.
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Even Trump.
• 1:26:01
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't even try.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_01: When I do Trixha, I often feel tension, like I'm holding my breath.
• 1:26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Do I work with this the same way as described in this chapter?
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you do.
• 1:26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Stress tension is usually a mild form of suppressed fear and anger.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Work with it exactly the same.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Also, we hold certain things in our channels,
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_00: certain memories from this life or past lives,
• 1:26:43
  SPEAKER_00: PTSD's, a good skillful
• 1:26:50
  SPEAKER_00: masseuse who is trained in channel work, not shiatsu.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_00: I have one I could refer you to in the Bay Area,
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_00: but I don't know where you are to know who's good out there.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Who can actually use their energy channels to straighten out clips in yours.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Could do you wonders of good if you're holding it physically.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Next question, but you want one with the right skill.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_01: How do you distinguish between dispassion and non-attachment?
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Dispassion is lack of feelings.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Non-attachment feels more like a sense of humor.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_01: Can I do nundro in parallel to treacherous?
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_01: How to structure them better if I have two hours a day for practice?
• 1:28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Do your nundra for an hour and 40 minutes
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_00: and at the end of it enter treksha for 20.
• 1:28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else that seems important for the moment before we close?
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is gum a, is that noticing the nature of mind as it is continuously?
• 1:28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Start with frequently.
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_01: Or does it also mean when thoughts arise or not, or only thought free?
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you're thinking or not, whatever you're doing, keep noticing.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Don't go for continuous.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_00: You'll drive yourself nuts.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's a skill.
• 1:29:14
  SPEAKER_00: You can't.
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_00: That has to happen by accident, the continuous.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Go for frequently during the day.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_00: We suggest,
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_00: as a method of learning GOM,
• 1:29:29
  SPEAKER_00: to make a morning session before engaging With speech or electronics or
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_00: the written word.
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_00: Having done so for whatever time you can,
• 1:29:49
  SPEAKER_00: you make six to eight mini sessions during the day of one to two minutes long,
• 1:29:55
  SPEAKER_00: no longer.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_00: No matter how busy you are, you can get a minute or two to stretch and take a leak.
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Make your mini session then.
• 1:30:16
  SPEAKER_00: In between mini sessions,
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_00: quickly glance at Tawa, but do not attempt in any way to maintain it.
• 1:30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Don't look away, but don't stare at it.
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Just glance and let go, glance and let go as often as you can.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_00: This method over time will lead to stabilization, but stabilization cannot be done on purpose.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_00: It has to happen of its own accord when it's ripe.
• 1:30:54
  SPEAKER_00: I have a pear tree out there.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_00: There are pears on it.
• 1:30:59
  SPEAKER_00: They're about this big right now and green.
• 1:31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Can any of you ripen them for me before their season?
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_00: But come the season,
• 1:31:15
  SPEAKER_00: there will be ripe pears and they will fall from the tree and I will catch them
• 1:31:21
  SPEAKER_00: and eat them with pleasure.
• 1:31:27
  SPEAKER_00: That was an analogy.
• 1:31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else that I really need to address before I go?
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_01: If mind can't be found in our brain or our ye,
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing it's not located in sensations of body either.
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Does it have any localization?
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Moo.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_00: You can find out for yourself.
• 1:31:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to retreat on it,
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_00: That retreat is called... What the heck is that retreat called when we do it?
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, yes.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Inner Mind, Nundro.
• 1:32:13
  SPEAKER_00: Sign up.
• 1:32:15
  [music]
• 1:32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Che, Che,
• 1:32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Sa, La,
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Go, Pa, Shoo.
• 1:32:50
  SPEAKER_01: May all beings be free.
• 1:32:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'll see some of you this weekend and the rest of you next time.
• 1:33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Or in your groups, by or complete.