Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Smart Way to Win: What to Do When Customers Are Shopping Around for Prices
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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 0:04I'm the host of the podcast, and I'm making today's recording at
- 0:07home, so expect to hear some noise in the background.
- 0:10Now, the goal of this podcast is solving business problems.
- 0:14So if you're struggling to hear customers, if your marketing
- 0:17isn't working, if your side hustle is suffering, if
- 0:20something is holding your business back, then this is the
- 0:22show for you. So subscribe on Spotify,
- 0:25YouTube, Apple, or any player of your choice.
- 0:27And if you'd love to connect, you can call SMS or WhatsApp me
- 0:30on 08064662140. Today on the podcast, I want to
- 0:39ramble about a few things. If you've been listening to the
- 0:42podcast for the last 3-4 weeks, you know that there's a current
- 0:46engagement that I have with a client of mine who has a sales
- 0:49team of three and they are involved in the solar sales.
- 0:54Then there's also conversations that I have been having with
- 0:57another client who is in the business of selling all I say
- 1:05customer service solutions. And of course, you know, talking
- 1:08to other people, listeners of the podcast, some people
- 1:11clients, some people not clients every now and then.
- 1:13And I've noticed that there are certain hang ups that seem to
- 1:16come around, you know, the issue of price or how to conduct
- 1:21yourself during conversations. So it just occurred to me that
- 1:26I've been coming out things from 1 angle and I just assumed that
- 1:30it's something everybody knows. And yeah, that actually is my
- 1:34fault. I should have been pointing
- 1:36these things out to my clients and to those of you who are
- 1:39listening to the podcast today. And that's one of the things
- 1:41that I want to share. A lot of you assume that when
- 1:45you pick up the phone and you're talking to a potential customer
- 1:48or when you go to the customer's house, the potential client's
- 1:50house, or to their office, or they come over to your studio or
- 1:54people meet in a neutral environment or whatever.
- 1:57A lot of you assume that the goal of this conversation is I'm
- 2:00trying to get them to buy. So a lot of you are going for
- 2:03these meetings, going for these phone calls, going for these
- 2:07networking sections, going for whatever it is.
- 2:09And in the back of your mind, you people are saying buy, buy,
- 2:12buy, buy from me, buy from me, buy from me.
- 2:15If that is your mindset, you'll be perpetually in bigger mode.
- 2:20And nobody is stupid. If you're in bigger mode, people
- 2:23can see it, People can feel it in sales.
- 2:31You know, people call it different thing things.
- 2:33Some people call it quota desperation, some people call it
- 2:38sales breath. You know what it means basically
- 2:40that your mouth will be smelling and you'll be repugnant to
- 2:43people because you're desperate. So you're chasing and chasing
- 2:47and chasing and you're begging and begging and begging.
- 2:51That's the even if you're not using your mouth to be begging,
- 2:53that's the vibe that people will be getting because your mind
- 2:57dream is this meeting I'm going for.
- 3:00I beg, buy from me, buy from me, buy from me whatever I can say,
- 3:05buy from me whatever I can do. Buy from me whatever I can
- 3:08manipulate, buy from me. That's wrong.
- 3:14That's not the main reason why you pick up the phone to call
- 3:16someone. That's not the main reason why
- 3:18you go for that meeting. That's not the main reason why
- 3:21you invite them over to your studio.
- 3:23That's not the main reason why you go over to the office to
- 3:25have that meeting. It's not to get them to buy from
- 3:28you and decide to point this out because one of the people that
- 3:34I'm coaching right now said, oh, I wish I had your confidence.
- 3:36I said, and you know, nothing threw me for a loop because if
- 3:41it's a matter of confidence then anyway, let me just leave that
- 3:46aside. So that's what just got me, just
- 3:50me realise that we're coming at things from from the wrong
- 3:52angles. If you're thinking that these
- 3:55things are a matter of confidence or whatever, it's
- 3:57because you're coming at it from the level of buy from me, buy
- 3:59from me, buy from me. The goal is not to get people to
- 4:01buy from you. The goal for this phone call,
- 4:04for this meeting, for this visit, for this networking
- 4:07session is to get the other person to make the best choice
- 4:12for them. Let me repeat, whenever I'm
- 4:16having a meeting with someone, the goal is not to get them to
- 4:19buy from me. My goal is not buy from me, buy
- 4:21from me, buy from me. And those of you who listen to
- 4:24the podcast and you like it and you've called me, you will
- 4:27attest that that is my attitude. If I can help you, I will.
- 4:31It's all good. Ultimately, I want you to make
- 4:34the best decision, the decision that is best for you.
- 4:38Sometimes the decision will involve us getting into, excuse
- 4:44me, a, a coaching relationship or a consulting relationship,
- 4:48but that is because we've had the conversation and I have
- 4:51deemed that it is what is best for you.
- 4:54So for the rest of you, you know, young hearts who are
- 4:56calling me like those of you in NYSE or those of you just
- 4:59wrapping up university, you know, I don't pressure you guys
- 5:03for money. I mean, like there's no need.
- 5:05We've had the conversation, you know, it's clear where you are,
- 5:08it's clear where you're heading. The small Nuggets I can give,
- 5:11the small value I can give, you know I'll give and my prayers
- 5:14are with you and that's what is best for you at the moment.
- 5:21For some other person, it is clear that look, you've been
- 5:23listening to the podcast, you like what you hear on the
- 5:25podcast. These are the challenges you're
- 5:28facing in your business and this is how much it is costing you,
- 5:31not taking actions on these things.
- 5:33So it actually is in your best interest whether you engage me
- 5:36or you engage somebody else. It is in your best interest to
- 5:38engage somebody. But either way, I'm trying to
- 5:44get them to make the best decision for them, not for me.
- 5:49If it is me, all well and good. If it is not me, it's all good.
- 5:54Tomorrow is another day that one of my younger sisters like to
- 5:59say the many fish in the water. You say that was my don't
- 6:03stretch yourself. That girl broke your heart.
- 6:05I be and don't stretch yourself. There's many fish in the water.
- 6:07That's what she used to say. That's back when were teenagers
- 6:10during one one more one more mature now.
- 6:14So this whole thing people saying, oh, if I had your
- 6:18confidence, it's not a matter of confidence when you're coming at
- 6:21it at the right approach. Now look, the reason why I'm
- 6:23here, Mr. Prospect, Mr. Customer, Mr. Potential
- 6:27customer, is to try and help you make the best decision for you.
- 6:30The other person, like there's a way you'll be relaxed, like
- 6:33there's no pressure. It's not by force.
- 6:36The other person will now be feeling you like, wow, this dude
- 6:38is confident. It's not that I'm confident.
- 6:41I'm coming with the right motive, which is I'm helping you
- 6:43to decide what is best for you. Now, the reason why this thing
- 6:48came up is because I was telling in my solar clients and also my
- 6:54customer service person that when somebody has an alternative
- 6:57quote, because this thing comes up when it has to do with them
- 7:00price that you're talking to somebody.
- 7:02You say your price is 7.5 and they say 7.5.
- 7:06How I have three quotes with me right now and one of those
- 7:10quotes said they can do it for 5.9 because you you're thinking
- 7:14buy from me, buy from me in your head.
- 7:16You're already doing mathematics, OK?
- 7:18Their quote is 5.9. My own is 7.2.
- 7:21What is the difference between 5.9 and 7.2?
- 7:25Is there a way I can meet them halfway or is there a way I can
- 7:28drop quality here or renegotiate this?
- 7:31Like where can I meet them and you'll be shaking.
- 7:37I have been trying to tell in this month in particular is the
- 7:41headache that I've been having. I've been trying to tell people
- 7:46when somebody says I have three quotes and one of those quotes
- 7:49say I can do it at 5.2. I've been trying to get them now
- 7:53look, you're just trying to get them.
- 7:58You're just trying to help them make the best decision possible.
- 8:01Let them know that and then ask for the quote and you do your
- 8:04best in helping them make the decision.
- 8:05In fact, this is the way that I put it.
- 8:08If my own quote is 10 M, the other person says I have three
- 8:11quotes and theirs is 8 amount attitude is oh really?
- 8:15You found a quote for 8 million that will cover all these specs
- 8:18we've been talking about. Wow, that sounds sounds pretty
- 8:22good. Sounds fantastic.
- 8:24You know, if I were you actually, I'd think about taking
- 8:28that offer because I can't match that offer.
- 8:30However, with my company, we're dedicated to making sure that
- 8:36people who interact with us make the best possible decision for
- 8:40them. It's looking as if there's no
- 8:43way they're going to end up going with us because of the the
- 8:48price discrepancy. However, using my 15 years
- 8:56experience in solar and assuming that you trust me so far, can I
- 9:01have a look at those quotes? I want to be sure that
- 9:04everything checks out and to be honest, if everything levels
- 9:09out, I'll tell you to just go ahead and take that quote.
- 9:12But honestly, there are ways that people pinch here and
- 9:16scratch here and things might not be always what it seems, so
- 9:19I hope you don't mind. Can I have a look at that quote?
- 9:23Just ask. Just ask because you're trying
- 9:28to get them to make the best decision possible.
- 9:32You can ask. One of the people I've been
- 9:36talking to said, Oh no, that was rude and you should be asking
- 9:39people for quotes. I said OK, no problem.
- 9:41If you think asking for the quotes is too forward, try it
- 9:44this way. So oh really?
- 9:47Somebody gave you a quote for 8 million?
- 9:49Well, that's interesting and that Eat Me on covers all these
- 9:54things that we've discussed. OK, Are you sure it covers this,
- 9:58this and that? Ask specific questions about the
- 10:02quote based on the answers they give.
- 10:05It will now give you an opportunity to go back in and re
- 10:08educate. Like let's say the solar example
- 10:11you're giving your own quote is 10.
- 10:13The other company they're giving their own quote is 8 million.
- 10:16They say, wow, 8 million for everything, including these
- 10:20kinds of batteries, and say yes, including these kinds of
- 10:22batteries. And then you just ask, Are you
- 10:24sure that they're getting their stuff from the original
- 10:27equipment manufacturer? And then you keep quiet.
- 10:30I hear what they have to say. If the person says yes, they're
- 10:34getting it from the original equipment manufacturer, then you
- 10:36say, oh, OK, all right, no problem.
- 10:37And then you leave it because to the best of your own ability,
- 10:41you've asked the question. It looks like they've gotten a
- 10:43better price. You free it.
- 10:45But The thing is some people will say, I am not sure.
- 10:50Some people will say original equipment manufacturer, what
- 10:53does that mean? Some people will say why are you
- 10:56asking me that question? That is where you will now be
- 10:59able to engage and start educating.
- 11:01That is where you will say, oh, original equipment manufacturer
- 11:05just means the person who is making the equipment.
- 11:07Lots of people in Nigeria, they are buying their batteries
- 11:10through resellers. And the reason why I'm asking is
- 11:13if you buy through resellers, you don't get warranty and
- 11:15guarantee. But when you come through us,
- 11:18because you buy direct from the original equipment manufacturer
- 11:21and nothing disturbed with, we're able to offer guarantees
- 11:24of, you know, XYZ months or XYZ years.
- 11:31But you can see that if you have the right approach that I'm just
- 11:34trying to help this person make the best decision for them and
- 11:37you're cool and calm and asking a couple of questions and
- 11:40helping them figure things out. Your demeanour comes across
- 11:47different. The reason why for those of you
- 11:50who are talking confidence, confidence, confidence, I can't
- 11:52be as confident as you. Whatever.
- 11:54The reason why this confidence thing is entering your mind is
- 11:57because you're thinking the goal is get them to buy.
- 12:00The goal is not get them to buy. The goal is get them to make a
- 12:02decision that is best for them, whether they go with you or
- 12:07whether they don't. If somebody has multiple quotes,
- 12:10ask if you can have a look at the quotes.
- 12:13I think you let them know that the reason why you want to see
- 12:15so you can help them make the best decision.
- 12:17But also let them know it's not by force.
- 12:21Oh Madam, for my own company, we don't do by force.
- 12:24By force. Honest to God, if you find the
- 12:26best a bid that is better than ours, sure, I will tell you to
- 12:29go ahead and take it because my company is not by force.
- 12:32By force however, Madam, you know these Niger, there are ways
- 12:36that we in the field we know how we pinch and how we do it and
- 12:39how we call corners. So I just want to make sure that
- 12:41you don't fall for any of these things.
- 12:44So Madam, let me can you just send me those quotes Let me look
- 12:48at it honest to God, if I look at it and everything is equal
- 12:52everything measures up. I'll tell you, just go ahead
- 12:54with them. Worst case scenario, if I see
- 12:58the thing and everything measures up but shy, I want your
- 13:02business and maybe I'll try and match their price.
- 13:06It's a different attitude, but the reason why the attitude is
- 13:09different is because you're trying to get them to make the
- 13:11best possible decision for them. So please don't pick up the
- 13:14phone. Don't go for a meeting, Don't
- 13:16invite somebody to your studio, don't invite somebody to your
- 13:18office with the hopes of let me get them to buy, let me get them
- 13:22to buy. Always keep an open mind and the
- 13:24reason why you're inviting them for a meeting or while you're
- 13:26going for a meeting or you're having this phone call is you're
- 13:29trying to help them to make the best decision for them.
- 13:36So for those of you who are worried about confidence, you
- 13:38know, this is where the confidence or the perception of
- 13:40confidence, you know, starts to, to switch.
- 13:43If you're always thinking, get them to buy, get them to buy,
- 13:46get them to buy, you will always be a beggar.
- 13:51But if you're thinking, educate them, help them make the best
- 13:55choice, then you, you come across different.
- 14:02Anyway, I should have taken some thought and made a proper
- 14:08podcast recording on this one because I'm not sure if I'm
- 14:10expressing myself clearly. If I'm expressing myself clearly
- 14:13and you guys are feeling me, please let me know in the
- 14:16comments section. But if I wasn't clear enough,
- 14:22then also let me know in the comments section.
- 14:25Or I give up my phone number at the beginning or the end, you
- 14:27know, send me a message, let me know what was unclear so I can
- 14:30now make a proper podcast episode to follow up on that.
- 14:34But Shah, bottom line, we are not trying to force people to
- 14:37buy from us. We're trying to get them to make
- 14:40the best decision for themselves.
- 14:42If somebody has multiple quotes, there actually is no problem
- 14:46asking to see what the quotes are.
- 14:48If you are afraid of asking, Madam, can you send me the
- 14:51quotes? Then you can start asking them
- 14:54questions about what the quote includes and what it doesn't
- 14:57include based on the answers that they give.
- 14:59It is now you will not have room to now took yourself back into
- 15:02the picture to start talking about better quality.
- 15:05Quality, better after sales service, better warranties,
- 15:12better guarantees, better quality.
- 15:13You know, every every every every every.
- 15:16But sure, don't be afraid and don't be a beggar.
- 15:20Just show up and try and help people make the best choice
- 15:23possible. So that's it and that's all for
- 15:25today. Remember if you'd love to
- 15:27connect, you can call SMS or WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 15:35Especially for those of you who think, OK, I don't understand
- 15:37what he's rambling about this episode, please let me know.
- 15:40So thanks for your time and attention.
- 15:41I'll catch you next time. Same place in your headphones
- 15:44and in your speakers.