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- Lucas: So there's this idea in procurement that if you share your full cost breakdown with a supplier, you're basically handing them a weapon. But a buyer I talked to at a company called Pinnacle Fixtures did exactly that — and it cut his costs by 15 percent. Luna: He opened the books? That's usually a hard sell internally. What was the situation? Lucas: He was sourcing die-cast aluminum components for their commercial shelving line. The supplier was a family-owned shop in Ohio that had been doing business with them for twelve years. But Pinnacle's margins had compressed about 32 percent over two years, and the buyer — let's call him Mike — knew the supplier had to be making money. He just didn't know how much. Luna: So he asked for an open-book negotiation. Lucas: He did. And the supplier said no. Flat out. Their owner said, 'You're just going to beat me down on margin.' Mike didn't push. Instead, he came back a month later with a different proposal. Luna: What did he offer? Lucas: He said, 'I'll show you my numbers first. My cost structure, my markup targets, my total landed cost from your facility.' And then he offered a two-year volume commitment — a guaranteed minimum order quantity that gave the supplier revenue certainty. Luna: That's a big trade. The volume guarantee reduces the supplier's demand risk. Lucas: Exactly. The supplier agreed. They sat down for a three-hour meeting where Mike laid out his entire cost build — material, freight, duty, administrative overhead, even the cost of the two quality audits he ran per year. The supplier saw that Mike's total cost was about 20 percent above what they were charging. Luna: Wait — the supplier was charging less than Mike's total cost? That sounds backwards. Lucas: Right, because Mike's total cost included a lot of hidden expenses the supplier didn't know about — like rework from inconsistent tolerances, expedited freight when orders ran late, and the cost of time his engineers spent fixing design flaws. The supplier's price looked fine on the invoice, but Mike's total cost was higher. Luna: So the supplier sees that and says, 'Okay, I can help you reduce those costs.' Lucas: That's what happened. The supplier's owner said, 'I didn't realize my late deliveries were costing you so much.' And then Mike asked the supplier to open their books. This time, the supplier agreed. Luna: What did Mike find in their cost breakdown? Lucas: A big surprise. The supplier's biggest cost was not material or labor — it was overtime. They were running second shifts at premium pay because their production scheduling was inefficient. They'd take orders as they came, instead of batching similar parts. That meant frequent machine changeovers and tons of overtime. Luna: So Mike could help them smooth out the schedule. Lucas: Exactly. Mike's team brought in their production planner, and together they redesigned the supplier's weekly schedule. Pinnacle agreed to place orders six weeks out instead of two, and the supplier agreed to run only two changeovers per week. That cut overtime by 60 percent. Luna: And that savings got passed through? Lucas: Partially. The supplier reduced their price by 15 percent. But they also invested some of the savings into better die maintenance, which improved part quality. Mike's rework costs dropped almost to zero. The combined effect was a 20 percent reduction in landed cost and a 25 percent improvement on-time delivery. Luna: So transparency created value that neither side could have captured alone. Lucas: That's the key insight. Mike didn't go in demanding a price cut. He went in showing his own costs, then helped the supplier find savings in their operations. The price reduction was a byproduct of making the whole system more efficient. Luna: But this only works if the buyer has real leverage — like the volume commitment. Lucas: Absolutely. If Mike had just said 'open your books or I'll find a new supplier,' the trust would have been gone. The volume guarantee was the foundation. It signaled that Mike was invested in the relationship, not just the price. Luna: And the supplier's owner — did he feel like he gave away margin? Lucas: Mike told me the owner said, 'I've never had a customer help me run my shop better.' The partnership actually deepened. When aluminum prices spiked last year, the supplier didn't pass through the full increase — they absorbed part of it because they knew Pinnacle's engineers were helping them reduce waste. Luna: That's the kind of outcome you can't contract for. Lucas: Right. And it's why cost transparency, done right, can be more powerful than a traditional negotiation. But it's fragile. If either side senses the other is exploiting the openness, it collapses. Luna: What are the warning signs? When should a buyer not try this? Lucas: If the supplier is already operating at thin margins, or if the buyer's volume isn't significant enough to matter, it probably won't work. Also, if the supplier culture is very adversarial — like a commoditized spot-market relationship — you're better off with competitive bidding. This approach needs a relationship that can absorb the vulnerability. Luna: It also requires a buyer who's confident enough to share their own cost breakdown. Not every procurement team is comfortable with that level of transparency internally, let alone externally. Lucas: True. Mike had to get buy-in from his CFO, who was skeptical. He argued that the risk of revealing Pinnacle's margins was lower than the risk of continuing with the status quo. The CFO agreed because Mike had a specific plan and a measurable target. Luna: So Mike didn't just ask for permission — he presented a business case. Lucas: Exactly. He showed the CFO the total cost breakdown and said, 'If we can reduce overtime at the supplier by even 30 percent, we can get a 10 percent price reduction. The volume guarantee costs us nothing upfront because we were going to buy that quantity anyway.' That made it a no-brainer. Luna: That's a great example of how procurement can act like a strategic partner, not just a purchasing agent. Lucas: And it's exactly the kind of story we try to bring to the show. It's one thing to talk about cost transparency in theory, but seeing how it played out in a real shop floor — with real numbers — gives you something you can actually use. Luna: It's why we keep doing these episodes. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, that's what matters to us. Lucas: We deliberately don't run ads on this show. So if you want to support that choice, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, but it helps us keep bringing these cases to you. Luna: Yeah, it's a small gesture that goes a long way for an independent podcast. Lucas: Back to Mike's story — there's one more detail I want to share. After the first year of the new arrangement, the supplier actually proposed a joint cost-reduction initiative on a new product line. They brought in their own ideas for a different alloy that could save 8 percent on material. Luna: So the transparency cycle continues. Lucas: Exactly. The supplier went from being a passive vendor to an active innovator. That's the ultimate payoff. When you create the conditions for trust, suppliers start bringing you solutions instead of just invoices. Luna: And that's a competitive advantage that's hard to replicate. Lucas: Right. For The Buyer's Side with Fexingo, I'm Lucas. Luna: And I'm Luna.