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Off the Bench London - Episode 3 · Off the Bench - London

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What are we waiting for? How's it going? Alright,
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let's do it. Alright, so we are on... week three,
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episode three of Off the Bench. Absolutely. Another
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week. Another dollar. How you doing? Good. It
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could be a lot better. It was a rough week watching
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the games. True. You might notice I'm not wearing
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a Bengals jersey this week. Are you ashamed to
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be a Bengals fan right now? Not ashamed. Just
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don't feel like wearing it. It's hurting. When
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your team gives up 17 points in two minutes off
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of three turnovers to end the half, the game's
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pretty much over. You kind of just want to turn
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it off and forget the week happened. Totally
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understandable. Yeah. So, yeah, let's get into
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it. I know it hurts. There's all the... There's
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only one shining light of that game for me, Bengals
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-Vikings. In multiple fantasy leagues, I have
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the Vikings defense. That's fair, that's fair.
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So at least my fantasy teams will win this week.
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Interesting. As a Bengals fan, fantasy is all
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I have sometimes. All right, all right. Well,
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before we get into that, if you can see, we do
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have a Ravens jersey there. So if you are here
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at... live at Kellogg's Factory right now. Sorry,
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the Clubhouse. My apologies. You will see that
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we have a Ravens jersey. So every Monday night
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we do give away a jersey. So this week is the
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Ravens because it's the Lions versus the Ravens.
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So that's going to be sick. Should be a really
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good game. There's also a few other things we
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do here at Clubhouse. Half Price Wings. Half
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Price Wings every Monday. Sim Rentals. So you
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can rent the sim right behind us. We decided
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to turn ours off this week due to the fact that
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we don't want the NFL to come after us. Yeah,
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they came after us last week. But we like doing
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this, so we'd like to continue doing it. Right.
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It's not so fun when all your stuff gets taken
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down. It's true. It's true. Yeah. They have a
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product for people to watch it. Sim rental deal.
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So it's $150 for two pitchers, nachos, $75 value,
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plus a three -hour sim rental to watch any game
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you really want to. So if you want to book any
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game, if you're a fan of the Bengals, the Eagles,
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the Bills, the Lions. Book it out. Bring five,
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ten, fifteen guys. Some of the booths have, like,
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More couches, there's more space at different
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ones. And then that cuts it down to, what, $10,
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$15? You come in here, you have a server coming
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over, they're bringing you beer. You don't have
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to clean up after, you just get up and leave.
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You don't have to kick out that one straggling
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friend who's always staying way over their welcome.
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You don't have to have those awkward conversations
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because you're here. It's true. It's true. All
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right. Also, the beer is really good. Also, like,
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especially on Monday nights. Yeah. They're on
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a discount. Yeah. It's $4 .50 a beer. Great.
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Can't beat that. It's amazing. And, like, when
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you're talking about local beer, like, it's literally
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this building. Literally. Literally. Well, growing
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up here, I used to say this is the beer district.
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Because, like, the first craft brewery in the
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area was Forked River. But then you have Powerhouse.
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Now you have Anderson's and then Lennon Co -op.
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So it's kind of cool that, you know, with everything
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going on, you know, I was growing up near the
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beer. So if I really was having a bad day, I
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could literally walk over to any place I really
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wanted to. Yeah, well, and it's just nice that
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it's all local stuff, too. Like, they're doing
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fantastic stuff here. There's about a million
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things to do here. You can stay in the hotel.
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It just opened up. You can stay basically all
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over this place. There's shops downstairs. There's
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a Starbucks. Yeah, Starbucks. You know they made
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it when they have a Starbucks, let's be honest.
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Yeah, exactly. All right. But before we even
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get into the games, I want to talk about how
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you're enjoying podcasting so far. Episode three,
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you've made it. Yeah, we've totally made it.
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Honestly, it's a work in progress. Every week
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you're like, I was nervous. You're not sure how
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you're going to talk. You're not sure what you're
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going to talk about. That's half the fun. That's
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true. But the more you do it, the easier you
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get. We're just getting more and more comfortable
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with it, comfortable with the space. Honestly,
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it's a real great space to be comfortable in.
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Yep. And, I mean, we've talked to, we've been
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doing the same thing for years now. And we literally
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just sit at bars, talk sports. So why not put
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a mic and a camera in front of us and do the
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same thing? Yeah, exactly. Actually, yeah, you're
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definitely right with the work in progress. I
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actually want to give a shout out to all podcasters
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and anyone who's on YouTube that's live facing.
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It's not easy. We're going to learn a lot more,
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do a lot of things, trying to tweak things and
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make it better. Like last week, we lost half
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an episode. Yeah, but the video was really good.
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If you could read or mouth reading, it would
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have been amazing. If there's any deaf people
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out there. Help us out. They can slap some subtitles
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on there for us. It's true. It's true. I don't
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know. AI is pretty good these days. Oh, yeah.
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You did get surgery on your eye. Yeah. You might
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be up there. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Last week,
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we had Tyrone on the episode. That was cool.
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A little bit of insights on how coaching the
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youth nowadays and how it's a little bit different
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from how we grew up playing sports. Oh, exactly.
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I'm really looking forward to having him on again,
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talking more in depth about how the season's
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going, too. Sure. Because I know he was really
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excited about the beginning of the season. Yeah,
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I think they lost their first game against Medway.
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But, again, work in progress. Well, juniors is
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very unpredictable. Unless you have a good culture
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going on, it's not. Usually, if you're not as
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good this year, it means you're going to be better
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next year because you probably have a lot more
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of the younger crew. It's all about, like, the
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returning talent. Yeah. So, yeah, that's huge.
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All right. Yeah. So, what are your thoughts on
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the games this week? Oh, man. A little bit of
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stress. A little bit of surprises. It's crazy
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because we can look at it from this perspective.
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There was four blocked kicks in field goals.
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Four. Not two, not one, four. Two was in one
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game, though. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen.
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Well, the one thing I'll say is I wish they would
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change the kickoff returns and the kickoff again
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to make it as dynamic because special teams is
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great and all, but I'm enjoying blocked field
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goals and so forth. field goals in general because
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these guys can kick ridiculously well. We've
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never seen this until the past two, three years.
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Yeah, all of a sudden I feel like it's almost
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like a changing of the guard because there was
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a bunch of kickers that were top tier. I mean,
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some of them aren't kicking anymore because they
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were doing some sketchy shit. Pardon my French.
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But speaking of the Ravens. But also Young Hoku.
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He just got released. He just got released. And
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he was like, everyone that plays fantasy was
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like, I need a kicker. I'm taking him. And I
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had him for years. And now all of a sudden he's
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not kicking. Well, like, the lifespan of a kicker
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now is almost like two years. And this is, like,
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coming from a fantasy perspective because I remember
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when Indianapolis Colts had Blankenship, who
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loved his Legos. So a huge shout -out to the
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people who liked their Legos. Like, Blankenship
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had, like, a basement full of Legos and all that,
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but he was an amazing kicker for the Colts. Then
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Young Hulk, who, don't censor me, was... He was
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amazing. He was canceled. McPherson. Yeah, Money
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Man. But, like, no one really talks about McPherson
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anymore. Young Hook, who's now done. And Young
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Hook, who started with the Chargers, had two
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bad games, got released, got picked up by the
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Falcons, and was unbelievable. Yeah. And then
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now he's on his right. And everyone's now talking
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about Brandon Aubrey. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I picked
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him up. He was a soccer player. Yep. And he was
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literally just sitting on his couch doing nothing
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and watching a game. And he was like, I could
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do that. And his wife was like, then do it. He
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was like, do it like selling insurance or something.
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And like a Kurt Warner experience. Yeah. So you
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just kick it. He just starts practicing at nights.
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Then he like lights up the USFL. And all of a
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sudden, it just becomes a walk -on there. It's
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almost like Jerry Jones was actually scouting
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and doing his job for once and not screwing over
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his team. I wouldn't give him that much credit.
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I would give some of the people he hires, sure.
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Because they don't want to get fired. This game,
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like this week's game, I can't give Jerry Jones
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any credit. Yeah, A. You have to give them some
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credit. They made the Bears look good. The Bears.
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That's interesting. That's hard to do. Very hard
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to do. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's get into it. Thursday
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night, we had the Dolphins, 21, Bills, 31. That
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game was actually shocking. Yeah. I was like,
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I'm watching the game, and I'm like, okay, well.
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Those are going to stomp them. Makes sense. Miami's
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been doing terrible this year, but it is still
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warm weather. That's the point, though. But I
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was shocked that they actually got off to a hot
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start. They scored first. Yep. And it was actually
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a competitive game. It was going back and forth
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for a while. And Tua, like, you're thinking that
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this could be – this could, like, actually go
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either way. And then I – was that another one
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of the block punts? No, it was not. No, it was
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a missed field goal. Yeah. Yeah, so they missed
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a field goal. And then Tua throws another interception.
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So it happens when you get hit in the head a
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lot. Yeah, this game was definitely interesting.
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No, it wasn't a missed field goal. It was a roughing
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the kicker. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what it was.
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I knew it had something to do with kicking. It
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was roughing the kicker that kicked in that screwed
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up this whole game. But it was that that gave
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the Bills the opportunity. But two or three in
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the interception late on the comeback when the
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Bills were about to lose this game. Yeah, when
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you're right there and then all of a sudden you
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turn it over, that turnover battle is so ridiculously
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important. Like, there was a couple other games
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this week that, like, there was tons of, there
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was so many turnovers this week. Like, and I'm
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not just complaining about my terrible Bengals.
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Yeah. Yeah. But, like, staying on the Thursday
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theme, if I was a Bills fan, I'm concerned. Yeah.
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Yeah, their defense isn't. isn't doing what it
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should. Like, the Bills' defense used to be like,
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that's top defense, and the offense just, like,
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scores when it wants to, when it can, and then
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can score when it needs to. Yep. But this year,
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it's just, like, well, I mean, yeah, we're about
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to watch the Ravens play. The Ravens are good.
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Their offense is fantastic. But, like, First
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game of the season, you give up 40 points. That's
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not good. It's true. All right. You want to get
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it over and done with? It was rough. So, Bengals,
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21. Vikings, 31. No. Thanks for trying to make
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me feel better. It was Vikings, 48. Bengals,
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10. And the 10 was late. Yeah, yeah. You can't
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win a game like that. There's no way. Like, I
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don't even know. And it wasn't even just that,
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oh, we got Jake Browning this week. He's not
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good. Honestly, I don't know if Burrow would
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have done differently. The O -line didn't do
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anything positive. And no, like, people were
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missing catches, fumbling the ball. You guys
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ran for, what, 50 yards in that game? Yeah. That
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was it. I know Chase Brown is a local guy. Love
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him. Fantastic. Last week or yesterday, holy.
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Was it .3 yards a carry? What? What is that?
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That's not necessarily all on him. Yeah, I know.
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It's a lot on the O -line. But there's still...
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There should be at least one breakaway run. Yes.
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You should be able to beat an edge one time.
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For sure, for sure. But I digress. Everyone was
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awful. That loss is on the entire team. Like,
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top to bottom. Like, nobody played well. And
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once they got down like that, it's just everyone's
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down in the dumps. Once your spirit breaks, their
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spirit was broken in the first half. The game
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was over. Then they're just playing through it.
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There was the fumble that Jamar Chase had. That
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was on a flag. That was on an offensive flag.
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He ran to finish the play. tried to make something
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of it that wouldn't have counted anyway, lost
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the ball, and the Vikings were just like, oh,
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I guess we don't need that penalty now. It's
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fine. We'll just take the ball again. Well, like,
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the good thing about it is you got Browning.
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He threw for 140 yards, one touchdown, two interceptions.
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That's honestly... For a backup. That seems kind
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of standard for him. Like, I can't see him going
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off for, like, 300 yards. I can see him doing
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it once in a while. I can't see that being a
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consistent thing. There's a reason he's a backup.
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Yep. And he's got to get better at those interceptions.
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He likes to be like, oh, my number one read,
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Jamar Chase. He's right here. He's going. He's
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going. I'm just going to stare him down. and
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wait till he's open. But that's like watching
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Tua. Yeah. Like, that's literally what happened.
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Yeah. You stare down your receiver, they're going
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to pick it off every time. Exactly. They're watching
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your eyes. They're ball hawking. They know you
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do that. Like, you play quarterback sometimes,
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right? I try. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You stare
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down, like, even in flag football. You stare
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down. People know where you're throwing to. Yeah.
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But they at least pretend to hide it. Like, go
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through your reads. Oh, for sure, for sure, for
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sure. Did you watch it, though? Like, did you
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watch it in depth? I watched... Enough. About
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a quarter and a half, and then I almost threw
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up and then turned it off. Not from anything
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other than watching the game. The one thing I'll
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say is Carson Wentz might have just got the keys
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to Minnesota. Well, I mean, he definitely played...
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I'll put it this way. I was looking forward to
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playing against J .J. McCarthy. Because you guys
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would have won if you guys were playing J .J.
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Exactly. You actually put a quarterback back
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there who can actually be a quarterback, and
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it's a different story. When you boil it down,
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Carson Wentz has a ring. He has a ring. He got
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the Eagles right there and then... For BD. Nick,
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Nick, Nick. Yeah. To take them over to the finish
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line. Yeah, exactly. And where's he now? I don't
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know. He's retired. Yeah. Yeah. He's retired
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with his riding off into the sunset. But he got
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the keys to the city because, you know... As
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he should. And we all forgot about Carson Wentz.
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Even though before he got injured... He literally
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was in the conversation for MVP. Yeah. And could
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have won that Super Bowl himself. That's how
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fast, like, it's like you said last week. Next
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man up. One guy goes down. All right, you're
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out. Next one. There was a few guys that went
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down this week, too. Najee Harris, yes. Najee
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Harris. Yep. James Conner. Yep. CeeDee Lamb's
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going to be out for three or four weeks. High
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ankle sprain, but yeah. That one looks bad. Because
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they decided to run a run play. Come on. Yeah.
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All right. Now, I went golfing yesterday, so
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I missed a little bit of the games, but I was
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never going to watch a Texas versus the Jags.
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Yeah, I don't think that game. I don't know what
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happened to CeeDee Stroud. I really don't. He
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was really good. Like his rookie year, fantastic.
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Then he hit his sophomore slum. Yeah, and then
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now people have tape on him, so he's just not,
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like the magic is gone. And they, like the Jags,
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like their offense is just meh. I agree. Also,
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I'm still bitter that they broke Burrow. We don't
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really need to talk about that. We got Indiana
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Jones. Danny Dimes. Well, no, it's Indiana Jones
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now. Let's be honest. Indiana Daniel Jones. I
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see what you did there. Colts 41, Titans 20.
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Okay, so the Giants give up another player this
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year. Oh, last year. Oh, the Giants. My favorite
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part is they had two guys they were paying. Daniel
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Jones. Yep. They had Saquon Barkley. Yep. The
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Giants are 0 -3. And the Eagles, 3 -0. Yep. The
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Colts are 3 -0. Yep. And actually punted for
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the first time this week. Aww. That's a shame.
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They were on a streak this season. That's wild.
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That's wild. Like, who would have thought? Who
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would have thought the Colts and Daniel Jones?
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No. I mean, sure, they've... The teams they've
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played, some of the teams they've played, they're
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like, eh. But, like, what? Well, you have an
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actual quarterback doing something compared to
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Anthony Richardson, who I think the bright lights
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got in front of him. Yeah. Well, he's so young.
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And he has, like, ego in him still. It's like,
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oh, I was great in college and blah, blah, blah.
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It should translate. And then reality kicks in.
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He had a rough go because when you're the most
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athletic person in college, you go to the NFL,
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you're like, okay, now I'm maybe a little above
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average. At par, yeah. He was still going crazy.
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Then he gets injured. Then he comes back. Now
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he's a little bit slower, so now he's average
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at best. Maybe a little below average. I think
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it's injured again. It's just, it's not looking
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good. And, like, he's a runner. He's a, do you
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remember the name Josh Rosen? Yeah. The Cardinals
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picked him up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Anthony Richards
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is the equivalent. Yeah. Yeah, I can't see, I
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don't know. But the Colts are shocking this year.
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And, like, part of me is, like, Damn. Lou Amaruno.
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Now he's actually going to be good. He's going
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to get a defense that is playing really well.
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And it kind of makes you go, man, that's what
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the Bengals could have been. But such is life.
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They don't like paying the right people sometimes.
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They do things and stuff. I'm going to backtrack
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a little. Being a Bengals fan, Yeah, I'm bringing
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them back up. Should you have signed T. Higgins
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and Hendricks, or should it have been the main
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focus, been an O -line? No, O -line's 100 % the
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focus. But Burrow didn't ask for an O -line.
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They've literally spent a lot. It's because Burrow's
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a psycho. He literally likes to stand in the
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pocket and watch a monster running at him, like
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Miles Garrett. full speed running at him. And
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he's like, okay, I'm just going to get crushed
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and then he gets murdered. But like, that's his
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superpower. It's not a good superpower to have.
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Like, it is, but it's like, there's a reason
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he gets banged up a lot. Yeah. But they've actually
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spent quite a bit on their own line. It just,
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none of the people have worked out. They've tried.
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And like, They'll get someone. Now we've got
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two right guards with calf injuries. Yes, you
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do. So we just signed Dalton Reisner. Yep. Now
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he left the game with a calf injury. Obviously
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he wasn't doing a lot during the game last week,
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like this week. Anyway. Yep. Okay, let's get
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back to it. I'm getting angry. I'm getting heated.
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Rams. 26. Eagles, 27. Sorry, let me rephrase
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that because I just blocked that. 33. Okay. Be
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honest with yourself. I have two things to say
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about this game. Are you going to put me on a
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timer? All right. At what point were you just
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like, well, they lose. With three seconds left
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in the game, I thought we lost. Yeah, exactly.
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So I'm watching the game. I'm like, yep, it's
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a 44 -yard field goal. That's pretty much a gimme.
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Automatic. Especially when you're a good team.
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Yep. And I turn around, and I just hear, oh,
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it got blocked. And I look back, and there's
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a 300 -pound man sprinting down the field with
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the ball. What just happened? He hasn't run that
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fast since the combine. I was like, all I'm thinking
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is, damn, get that man some oxygen and a game
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ball. He earned it. Man. Okay. So, like, in that
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game, it was kind of crazy. Because for the first
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three quarters, yes, we scored first. But then
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they went up 26 -7 until the third quarter. And
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it was almost like A .J. Brown. Devon D. Smith.
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Take one. Don't worry about it. You guys want
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to play ball for once? Yeah. And then boom. But
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it's amazing because it just shows you like they
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can throw the ball. They just don't. Well, they're
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still getting used to their offensive coordinator.
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Yeah. So they're not being aggressive. But it's
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good that he was in that position that he had
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to be aggressive. And it shows you like, oh,
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you got A .J. Brown just boxing people out and
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bodying everyone and can do whatever he wants.
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and catch anything. Like, it was ridiculous.
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Like, A .J. Brown literally throwing men down
27:07
on the ground like they're nothing. Devontae
27:11
Smith running his routes like clean as possible.
27:13
Dallas Gard finally got a touchdown. Like, it
27:16
was wicked. But, you know. It's almost like when
27:21
your number two receiver on the team is a Heisman
27:25
winner, you should probably throw the ball more.
27:30
You know what? Like, we have A .J. Brown, Devontae
27:36
Smith, Dallas Goddard, Jahan Dotson. Like, all
27:42
four of those wide receivers could be a number
27:46
one receiver anywhere else. Yeah. Yeah, they
27:50
all have been. And, like, when you look at it
27:53
from that perspective. Whatever team they were
27:56
last on, they were the number one receivers.
27:58
Sure. Detroit, sorry, the Patriots, when Tom
28:03
Brady was playing, his top receivers would never
28:07
have been top receivers anywhere else. But Jalen
28:12
Hurts, which we should be putting some respect
28:14
on, everyone says he's not that good of a quarterback
28:18
or he's just like a game manager and so forth.
28:21
Game managing is hard. That's a skill. Thank
28:24
you. 100 % agree. It's all good. Just giving
28:34
away more ballots for the jerseys. See, honestly,
28:37
the ballots are key. Ballots are key. Come down
28:40
to Clubhouse, get your ballots. Easy. Get a Lamar
28:44
Jackson jersey as the game goes on, and boom.
28:47
Yeah, someone here is going to go home with a
28:50
nice, shiny new Lamar Jackson jersey. And I know...
28:55
Pretty much everyone that plays fantasy football
28:58
is like, I want that guy on my team. That's like
29:02
the first quarterback you want on fantasy football.
29:05
Now it's a toss -up between him and Josh Allen.
29:09
Yeah. Yeah. And then everyone was like, the number
29:13
three is Jaden Daniels, and now all those people
29:18
are sad. All right. Let's fast forward a little
29:23
bit. Oh, wait, I got one more thing on the Eagles.
29:26
Go ahead. Here's my hot take. Go ahead. You can
29:28
get mad if you want. I'm listening. You know
29:32
how everyone hates the Chiefs? Oh, man, I don't
29:35
know what you're about to go. Go ahead. So, last
29:39
year, the Chiefs squeaked out a whole bunch of
29:43
wins, and everyone hated them for it, and they're
29:46
all mad because the Chiefs are cheating, this
29:49
thing, that thing. Does that sound a little familiar
29:52
this year? Mm -hmm. Yeah. Why do I feel like
29:57
you're talking about the exact... Okay. I've
29:59
heard this before. Yeah. Are the Eagles the new
30:04
Chiefs? No, because we're better. True. But...
30:09
Is it one of those things where you're like,
30:14
ah, they're just... Doesn't matter. Like, it
30:18
almost makes... You're like, yes, we won. But
30:23
then when you win and you're like, like last
30:26
week, you beat the Chiefs and everyone's like,
30:29
oh, but they cheated. Even though it's whatever.
30:33
I hate the Chiefs. Everyone hates the Chiefs.
30:35
Well, some people like the Chiefs. Yeah. There's
30:38
a guy in here with a hat. So, but I'll say this.
30:45
If you recall last year. How many of those games
30:50
did the refs win for the Chiefs? Oh, exactly.
30:53
Versus how the Eagles are not in a situation
30:57
where the refs are helping us. Yes, the tush
31:00
push, the refs didn't know how to gauge that
31:02
because if you look at it, the last game, Chiefs
31:06
were offside, and then we just moved early. But
31:09
Chiefs were offside. Yeah, they always line up
31:11
offside. They don't know how to line up. So it
31:13
wouldn't have mattered, but there was no call.
31:17
it still was executed properly. Yeah. Yeah, it's,
31:21
I don't know. It just feels like if the Eagles
31:26
keep squeaking out victories like this, like
31:29
last year when they were like, oh, the Chiefs
31:32
won because someone missed a field goal or blocked
31:36
punt. Like those little things, they just start
31:39
adding up and up and up. And, I mean, I don't
31:43
think the Eagles are probably not going to go
31:45
an undefeated season. I don't think anyone will.
31:49
It's too long now. It's true. Injuries are a
31:54
matter. There's a lot of things going in. Well,
31:59
there's a lot of things. Even if you think a
32:00
team is terrible, sometimes they just throw out
32:04
a win and you're like, what just happened? Like,
32:07
oh, right, these are professional football players.
32:11
Or they throw out a game that's just an absolute...
32:14
dumpster fire. You're like, oh, right. Because
32:17
the team they're playing against is a bunch of
32:20
professional athletes. Like the Falcons and the
32:23
Carolina Panthers. Exactly. Where Falcons put
32:26
up zero. Yeah, you thought the Falcons were decent
32:29
the first week. Eh, the second week. And the
32:34
third week, nobody thinks Carolina's good. No.
32:39
No. I usually look at my Survivor Series. Who's
32:43
playing Carolina? Did I pick them already? Alright,
32:45
cool. I'm picking them this week. I thought they
32:48
were going to go in 16. 17. Yeah, exactly. But
32:53
that's what I mean. Sometimes we'll just throw
32:55
out a random game. Or like how the Packers lost
32:58
this week to the Browns. I thought this whole
33:02
year, Packers may go undefeated. We have an amazing
33:07
defense now. Jordan Love can take the risks.
33:11
If he turns the ball over, boom. You would think.
33:15
Obviously, nothing really happened offensively
33:19
in that game. The Bengals are... The Browns are
33:24
built on defense. That's their staple. Their
33:27
offenses were good enough. They're not going
33:31
to be putting up 30 points in a game unless they
33:34
play the Bengals, which is week 17. We'll see.
33:38
Hopefully, Perot's back for that. He might as
33:42
well sit out the rest of the year. Honestly,
33:44
at this point, we'll see how they're looking
33:46
at that point. I mean, one bad week doesn't break
33:51
a season, but a win's a win and a loss is a loss.
33:56
It's true. The Packers falling flat like that?
34:01
Shocks. Well, it just proves that it doesn't
34:06
fall through them. It may go through the Eagles
34:09
and the Buccaneers. Yeah, the Bucs seem solid.
34:15
Like, Baker, I know Baker had all his ads before
34:19
about living in Cleveland, him being the groundskeeper
34:26
at the stadium. He lives there, works there.
34:30
That's his home. When he moved out, he moved
34:33
all over the place. He found his new home in
34:35
Tampa. Brady cleaned it up. Imagine if Baker
34:42
left when Tom Brady left New England. We'd be
34:46
saying the same thing. Yeah. He got the keys
34:49
to the castle. It was like, all right, I'm going
34:52
to move this. I'm going to move this. I'm going
34:54
to keep it like this, this, this, and this. All
34:57
right, let's go. Let's have some fun. Yeah. And
35:00
he's out there having the best time. Honestly,
35:04
that team is built around him. That defense is
35:07
good. But it's just fun to watch Baker, as he
35:11
chirps his teammates, being like, what's the
35:13
most disrespectful catch in the game for Emeka?
35:17
Oh, the one -handed? The one -handed or the spectacular
35:20
catch? He's like, the one -handed because you
35:23
got to put some respect to the balls I throw
35:24
at you. Yeah, he's like, he's whipping them hard.
35:28
His teammates just like, oh, I got it. Oh, that's
35:31
not that bad. Put some heat on it next time.
35:35
Come on, man. But, no, Baker's good. Like, he's
35:42
definitely in that MVP conversation. Oh, for
35:45
sure, for sure. All right, only a few more games
35:48
we've got to talk about. Chiefs and Giants. I
35:52
have to talk about that. I'm kind of sad that
35:56
they got their first win, but not shocked. Okay,
35:59
I'm going to be honest with you. This was highlighted
36:04
high on mine because it's absolutely ridiculous.
36:11
If any other quarterback was playing for the
36:15
Giants, Kansas City would be 0 -3 right now.
36:20
Yeah. I feel like that possibly could have been
36:27
Russell Wilson's last game. Okay. It should have
36:31
been his last half. Yeah. They should have booted
36:35
him out. If you're not ready for Jackson Dart,
36:38
put Jameis Winston in. You know, I would love
36:43
if the Bengals traded for Jameis Winston. I'm
36:45
just throwing that out there. That'd be real
36:47
fun. Now, if anything, you're going to get Russell
36:49
Wilson. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that.
36:53
But, like, you're going to get Russell Wilson
36:55
on a discount. Yeah, I hope so. Actually, I don't
37:00
hope so. Even a discount. You're literally going
37:02
to get Russell Wilson on a huge discount because
37:04
at the end of the day... The only thing he would
37:07
get us is a higher draft pick. Yes. Which could
37:10
be a lineman. That's true. Yeah, and we did lock
37:16
everybody up for a longer contract. Except for
37:18
Trey because he's going to need a new contract
37:23
next year. He's done. Get rid of him. Exactly.
37:26
There's no point. You're not making the team
37:28
any better. Yeah. If the offense can't work,
37:31
the defense, it doesn't matter. You become another
37:34
sock king. It doesn't matter if your team loses.
37:37
Honestly, I feel like next season, it's probably
37:41
going to be, they're going to try and do a sign
37:43
-in trade, get some draft picks. They should
37:46
do it before the draft. Jerry Jones could always
37:49
use players. That's true. At this rate, it's
37:52
going to, like. But Jerry Jones is. will be like,
37:55
well, I mean, if we got one of the draft picks
38:00
that they got for Parsons, then basically they'll
38:06
have traded Parsons for a first and Trey Hendricks.
38:14
Possible. I don't know. We'll see. I don't want
38:18
to start talking about trading. When you look
38:22
at it from this perspective, though, Kansas City
38:24
had no business winning that game. Yeah, Patrick
38:27
Mahomes played well. I'll give him his flowers.
38:30
La -di -da. Did you see his immaculate, no one
38:35
else, no other quarterback could do this. Are
38:37
you Chris Collingworth right now? The fumble
38:41
recovery of a lifetime. All you have to do to
38:45
get a fumble -lube recovery this good is just
38:49
throw the ball 15 yards behind you to nobody.
38:53
And then, obviously, yeah, you're like, oh, whoops,
38:56
I'll go get that. I should probably, yeah, I've
38:59
got to fix my mistake. He pulled what Cam Newton
39:01
couldn't do in the Super Bowl. He jumped on the
39:04
fumble. But, like, the amount of announcers that
39:08
were just like, especially Chris Collinsworth,
39:10
former Bengal, no big deal. But, holy, like,
39:17
he just, he's talking about this, like, it's
39:20
an actually good play. And you're like. You just
39:23
went, like, 10 yards back. No, no. You screwed
39:27
up. Yeah. Like, that's terrible. No, but, like,
39:33
Kansas City is trying to survive for the six
39:36
-game suspension. Xavier, where did you heal
39:39
up quickly? Because I guess that shoulder injury
39:42
was a lot worse than what we expected. Kelsey's
39:45
a big guy. Kelsey, we know he's on the decline.
39:49
I feel like... This is just highlighting it so
39:53
much because he wants to be so good still, especially
39:57
because he's in such a big spotlight right now.
40:00
But he just can't. Sure. And he just can't handle
40:03
it. He can't do everything anymore. And everyone
40:07
else is injured and suspended and not doing what
40:11
they want to. Like, their run game is non -existent.
40:13
It is. With Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. It's terrible.
40:19
You don't want your quarter. billion -dollar
40:22
quarterback being your running back. That's not
40:26
good. That's the last thing you want. Yeah. So,
40:31
no. Yeah. We were witnessing the Kelseys last
40:38
year. I think so. I think he's going to ride
40:41
off into the sunset. Taylor Swift's going to
40:44
write a song. He might, I don't know, be on it.
40:48
He'll go to the concert. I guess. All right.
40:53
Last thing. Who you got? Lions or Ravens? We
41:00
can take some moments on this. I don't know.
41:05
The Lions, when they played the Packers, it was
41:12
a very different game than the Bears. But also
41:15
the Packers and the Bears are very different
41:17
teams. Yes. You know how there's some teams that
41:22
you're just like, this is a good, like, we all
41:24
have it in our mind that you're just like, there's
41:27
a list of, like, the power rankings. You're like,
41:30
these are the top ten teams. If you can beat
41:33
one of the playoff teams, like, this is a playoff
41:36
caliber team. It doesn't even matter what their
41:39
record is. True. Like, if Carolina, because of
41:43
their schedule, had three really easy games in
41:47
a row, and somehow they were 3 -0. No one would
41:50
be like, they're really good. Unless they absolutely
41:54
destroyed people like the Colts did. Sure. I
41:59
got to land this plan. Where was I getting at
42:04
here? We'll see how Detroit is against another
42:10
good team. Because they had a lot of fuel playing
42:14
the Bears last week. When your coach goes somewhere,
42:20
Everyone wants to beat that team. And the other
42:24
team doesn't, I don't think they understand the
42:26
same urgency. That's why they got slapped. And
42:30
the Ravens, I think, honestly, the Browns' defense
42:34
held the Ravens last week pretty good. Yep. But,
42:38
I don't know, we'll see how the Lions' defense
42:41
can hold out. We'll see how the Ravens' offense
42:47
can work. Well, like, last week, DeAndre Hopkins
42:51
went off. Yeah. The king and his guard didn't
42:57
really do much. King Henry didn't do much. Yeah.
43:00
Lamar Jackson just did adequate. But when you
43:03
look at it from that perspective, it's like,
43:05
okay. I look at this, though, it's just like.
43:07
They're a full team. Like, they just need. Across
43:10
the board. They just need. Same thing with the
43:13
Eagles. Oh, Barkley's having an off game. Oh,
43:16
I guess we'll throw it to. Oh, right. We have
43:18
two other really good guys. Derek Henry's not
43:21
having a good game. Oh, I guess we'll throw it
43:23
to Zay Flowers. Oh, right. He is really good.
43:25
Oh, Zay Flowers is covered. I guess we'll throw
43:28
it to DeAndre Hopkins. Oh, I forgot about that.
43:33
I'm waiting for Mark Andrews to go off. Who?
43:36
Exactly. He hasn't shown up at all this year.
43:40
I drafted him in a couple leagues. Been kind
43:42
of sad about it. But... And then they got Isaiah
43:47
Likely coming back. Yes. So they've got pieces
43:51
all over the place. Like worst case scenario,
43:53
Lamar Jackson will run it. But he doesn't run
43:56
that much. Because they have so many weapons
43:59
and everyone's afraid he's going to run. Yes.
44:03
Everyone's spying. They have to have a spy on
44:05
him. You have to cover him. You can't just let
44:08
it be. And you can't even play zone because that
44:11
doesn't work. Exactly. And then as soon as you
44:14
start doing that. Derek Henry's running the ball
44:16
down your throat. Yeah. So, we'll see. I hate
44:22
talking about the Ravens being good. As a Bengals
44:25
fan, it's kind of annoying. But they are good.
44:27
It's the inevitable right now. Like, in the AOC,
44:30
we know it's literally either the Bills, the
44:35
Ravens. We used to say Bengals. Chargers, though.
44:40
Okay. They're a complete team right now. Yeah.
44:44
Harbaugh has got them lined up, primed. It's
44:49
like Harbaugh knew not to take JJ when he first
44:53
got in. It's like he knew that he wasn't good
44:56
enough, and that's why he had to steal the signs.
44:59
So, yeah, you can't learn until we steal signs
45:04
so we can win a championship. But with Herbert,
45:07
Herbert, it was always great. We always thought
45:09
he was, like, top -tier caliber. but he just
45:14
didn't have that other edge. Yeah. His whole
45:17
team is balling. He's had so many coaches. And
45:21
none of them cared about how he played the game.
45:24
Yeah. Okay. I know you've seen the show Ted Lasso.
45:29
Yes. Fantastic show. Yes. He actually, Jason
45:37
Sudeikis. I called Harbaugh to ask him questions
45:42
about coaching. He, like, asked me, like, oh,
45:47
what do you wear to games? I wear the same thing
45:49
to the game, to every game. I wear it to the
45:53
airport. I wear it home. And if it's raining,
45:56
I have the guys put a fresh outfit of the exact
45:59
same thing in my locker. Like, he literally is
46:04
Ted Lasso. It's the funniest thing ever. That
46:06
is hilarious. It kind of makes you like the Chargers.
46:09
Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, no, like, for me, I still
46:17
have to say I'm wearing Ravens on this one over
46:20
the Lions. And that's hard. I want the Lions
46:24
to be good so bad. We live in London, right?
46:27
So, like, we kind of want to see the Lions be
46:29
good. But it's the Ravens. And if they can knock
46:39
off Kansas City to get to the Super Bowl, I am
46:41
happy. That's true. But we have seen how the
46:47
Ravens have a tendency to fold, so they might
46:50
jump out to a real quick lead, and then the Lions
46:54
will be like, oh, right, we're actually really
46:56
good on offense. Like, they've got some dogs
47:01
on offense. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Sonic and Knuckles?
47:05
Yeah. Like, come on. I love these nicknames,
47:08
though. On point. You got the sun god catching
47:14
the balls. Baby hands golf. But yeah, no, honestly,
47:21
I'm looking forward to tonight's game. Should
47:26
be a good one. So, on that note, I'm Malcolm.
47:31
And I'm Scott. This is Off the Bench. And we're
47:36
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