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WE HOSTED A FITNESS RACE | The MindSets Podcast | Episode 63 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another episode Reminds me to
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  broadcast. I'm joined again by Charles.
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  How are you? I'm very good, Yeah.
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  Business is normal. Business as that's not the
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  saying business as usual. Business is normal.
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  Oh God. I think you are.
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  I think you have two different things in my head when I said
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  that. But we've resumed normality.
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  We have we're not in by the sunny Majorca eating Spanish
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  food, living our no bro boys life.
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  I know. It's a shame, isn't it?
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  Yeah. That song is really had an
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  impact on me this summer, I must say.
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  Resonate with that song you. Do resonate with that song
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  ironically since since So true since we've been back so a lot
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  of things have actually happened in the sports world so I thought
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  we'd do a quick run through of what's been going on. 1st
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  England lost the cricket against India.
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  However Chris wokes damn. I knew you were going to bring
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  this up. He's got balls.
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  Yeah. Walking out to bat one handed,
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  That's crazy. Unheard of isn't.
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  It I know so do you know what? When I was looking this up to
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  see if I could give you any interesting information, the
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  most interesting piece of information was him saying to
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  the press, this is not what I want to be on the front page
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  for. Don't want to continue to do
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  this will you? But take the credit.
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  Fair enough. No, that was cool.
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  Also Lions rugby did win 21 slightly disappointing last game
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  it was. Wasn't it?
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  But, you know, we'll take the win overall, that's that's it
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  for another four years. Did you watch the last Test?
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  I didn't. I watched the highlights.
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  You see, it got the high like it got kind of postponed because of
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  the bad weather. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, like really bad. They briefly touched on that,
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  yeah, 40 ish minutes. They were all brought off the
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  pitch inside, which kind of took this thing out of the game.
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  But it was a bit of a shame really that Australia didn't
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  turn up in the second Test so that the third Test was a bit
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  more competitive. I.
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  Think that's the thing that's really annoying about it being
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  like a three. It's almost like, what's the
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  point in the main series? Why?
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  Why are you playing the third? Yeah, it's an issue because
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  like, they've organized it. It's got to be done.
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  Did You Know that this is a good fact?
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  There's an Australian rugby player called Harry Potter, is
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  there? There actually is, yeah.
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  Is he a wizard? Is he good at what he does?
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  He. I the way he didn't get he
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  didn't get selected to play. That's such a random fact
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  though. I didn't love that I.
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  Remember the the commentary team were talking about how he didn't
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  get selected and then I had to Google it to make sure it was
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  actually true? But yeah, Harry Potter.
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  Oh wow, another update that I've got for us in terms of like live
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  updates that have happened, it's actually related to high rocks,
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  so we can make this relevant broadcast a little bit more.
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  There's been a new update for the Elite 15 in the penalties,
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  so the timing penalty situation. OK, I do.
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  Yeah, you come to the end of your race and then you'd find
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  out you've been slapped with A1 minute penalty and then you
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  actually see that you didn't win, you're not the world
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  champion, you've actually finished 8th overall.
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  Now what they've said is once you finish your 100 wobbles, you
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  serve your time penalty in a box before you can cross the line
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  and I love this. I do as.
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  Well, all the ironic reasons. Talk me through what you.
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  Reckon there's going to be a load of people standing around
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  that box heckling. I think the the atmosphere
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  around that person is going to be awful, but I just also love
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  that they've just, they've said that it's going to be in a box,
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  but it has to be called the naughty step.
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  It has the one with an actual step.
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  With an actual step and you have to sit down and.
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  I'm heckling for sure. The other thing that I think
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  that's actually going to happen is that you're not going to have
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  one person, a load of people. Yeah, it's going to just be a
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  bunch of people that aren't allowed to finish for a bit.
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  They're all going to finish their race, shake hands in the
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  box. Oh, well done.
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  What did you want? This one?
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  I don't think I think the whole thing was done for like dramatic
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  effect. Or you can have one guy and it's
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  going to be nail biting to see if the other person can finish
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  their unbroken wobbles and actually get across the line
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  before their time penalty's up. I do genuinely think it's just
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  going to be a a bunch of races stood in this box going, oh
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  nice. Great.
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  Yeah. And then just walk.
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  Over and then walk over the line, yeah.
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  Yeah, I, I don't know, we'll see how it pays out, but I like that
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  you can actually then see the like the physical representation
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  of the penalty. Yeah, one more issue that I have
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  with it is that at the High Rocks World Championships this
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  year, and maybe this is just going to improve this season,
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  when they did cross the line, they didn't know what the
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  penalty was. Yeah.
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  So like if I if if I finish in the elite race.
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  So like if I finish and you tell me your penalty's 20 seconds, so
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  I serve my 20 seconds, I then cross the line and I've served
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  my penalty, and then you go, oh, wait, there was another one.
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  I yeah, you might as well have just added the whole lot onto
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  the. End.
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  There needs to be more clarity, doesn't there?
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  Yeah, and I think that needs to be more live data data.
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  But the the tough thing that I have seen, people were
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  commenting on the post and the release of this news, people
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  were saying there should be a a naughty step at each station.
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  Oh, that'd be cool. Because once you go, when you're
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  where you are in your race, serve the penalty and I think
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  that's good. That's more of like a sin bin
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  situation rather than at the end of the race like it will
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  compound and there you are, you're still.
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  There. No, I really like that as well.
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  That's much better. So I think that's, yeah, you
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  should. Be as a spect hell as well.
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  I think that's better to watch. Yeah.
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  But talking about the the data, I'd love to see like live heart
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  rate on the athletes. They must have some sponsor they
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  can work with Wu Pola, someone who's doing heart rate data, and
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  project it live so you can see where they're actually at.
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  Well, interestingly, this was the counterpoint in the
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  comments. I'm a professional comment
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  reader. This is the Council counterpoint
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  was that some athletes could figure out if they were blowing
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  and they wanted to have a bit of a rest, they could.
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  Get a. Penalty which actually helped
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  them out in finishing a station, have a rest to get their heart
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  rate down and then fuck off on the run.
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  Just in case what the the time penalty was essentially quicker
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  than how long it would take them to finish the station.
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  Yeah. Like could the rest actually
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  benefit them during the race? Which?
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  No one's. Doing.
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  I doubt, yeah. I don't think anyone's doing
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  that. I don't know if you saw the
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  real, I think it was Red Bull did with Lucy Proctor and they
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  had her whole race and then they inputted her heart rate data for
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  each of the stations and her running.
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  And I thought that was really cool.
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  Like it's just a clever thing and I don't know why they're not
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  doing that on the professional scene.
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  Like as of spectator sport, I'm probably the only person who
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  wants to see that. But it would be interesting to
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  see how the professionals are recovering and and approaching
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  different stations. Well, it would also be
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  interesting. So when the world champs
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  happened for the men this year, Hunter McIntyre, who ended up
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  finishing second, went unbroken on the warbles.
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  But when he came in, Tim Venus, who won the whole thing, when he
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  came in, he was on like 25 warbles or something.
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  Hunter caught him up and he only finished two warbles ahead.
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  But like it would have been so good to see Tim is redlining and
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  Hunter's like quite calm and it would have just built that
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  anticipation and knowing that Hunter's quite calm, maybe he is
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  going to be going unbroken. It would have been a lot easier
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  to predict that because lots of the times and fair place to the
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  commentary guys and girls, you don't know what's going on, but
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  they'll say, oh, he's done it before.
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  He can go unbroken. Like that's the best you can
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  give me. And then I immediately see them
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  put the ball down whereas. See how I no idea how they're
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  actually physically? He's he's at 150 BPL on his
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  heart rate. I know he's chilling.
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  So like I'm OK, cool. But then he's at 70 reps and
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  it's like 175. I'm like, oh, can he keep it
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  together? And to get.
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  Yeah, it's a bit like watching Formula One.
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  Like there's so, so many stats. Yeah.
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  And like you just dive in and you're like, oh, he's George
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  Russell's defending from Leclair.
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  But I can see that George Russell's just rinsed his
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  battery. So now I'm like, cool.
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  Leclair, if he gets DRS should be able to get this position.
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  It's like stuff that I wouldn't know if I was just watching the
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  two of them, but like, I, I know.
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  And so now I can enjoy. American sports seem to do it
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  much better because American fans seem to love stats.
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  But whenever I of the off chance watch the NFL, I'm just getting
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  reeled with stats and I'm like, I don't know what half of this
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  means. They're just like stats after
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  stats after stats. I'm like, a lot of it's
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  irrelevant, but it's just like having live data from a
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  physiological standpoint of any athlete in any sport.
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  I think that'd be sweet. Well, I imagine we always use
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  this example, Rory, on his tiebreak shots on on the end of
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  Augusta at the Masters this year.
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  What was his heart rate doing? Or like a Wimbledon final.
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  You're serving for the for the Wimbledon championship.
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  What's your heart rate saying? Yeah, yeah.
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  Like seeing the differences in that, it'll be really, really
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  cool. Yeah, I like that.
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  And on like a, a completely different if, if there was like
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  a triathlon or something like that, you know how you can have
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  sensors that check your like your perspiration knowing if
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  like 1 athlete is like sweating way more than another athlete.
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  And like that, like there's so many things you could go into
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  though. Levels.
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  Yeah, like. That's the feature.
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  It would be really cool. And 100% I wasn't actually
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  attempting to use it as a Segway because I mentioned F1.
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  I went and saw the F1 film last night.
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  Oh yeah. I know there have been mixed
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  reviews but I really back it like.
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  You're the first person I've heard said that.
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  So I think if you're going and you're expecting a race about
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  Formula One that's similar to like the style of Drive to
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  Survive, but fiction, then yeah, you're probably going to be
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  like. Disappointed.
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  What the fuck was that? But if you know you're going for
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  a film that is Formula One themed and you're going for a
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  cool story, then yeah, it's great.
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  And what I there's a couple of things that I want to pick up on
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  here. And I know you haven't seen it,
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  so I will say spoiler that, but I don't the way that I'm going
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  to say this is not going to spoil the film for anyone.
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  However, if you didn't know, the Formula One film was produced by
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  Lewis Hamilton, which is actually a key, key feature.
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  And watching it, there were very, very few errors in what
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  they were talking about with the car.
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  And it was those sorts of things.
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  I imagine he had oversight as well as a lot of the other
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  experts that were working on it. Yeah, there weren't many errors
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  or people didn't really say the the wrong things very often.
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  However, the obvious thing to me where Lewis had his touch on it,
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  and again, this doesn't really give away what goes on with the
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  film, but there is a point very early on to the film where there
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  are two Formula One drivers racing at Silverstone and they
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  are going down one of the main straights and they are wheel to
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  wheel right alongside each other.
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  And for those of you that watched a few seasons ago when
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  Max and Lewis were next to each other and what happened on that
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  corner, Max went flying into barriers because he didn't give
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  Lewis enough room and Lewis basically tried to stay on the
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  track. I'm on team Lewis, like you can
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  probably tell by the way I'm saying it, but there was a
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  racing incident between the two of them.
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  It came off very badly for Max. This is basically how it's set
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  up in the shop. And when they approach the
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  corner and then I think even on the commentary, they're like, is
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  he going to be able to keep, are they both going to be able to
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  keep it on the track? That kind of thing.
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  The camera angle switches and the driver who is on the outside
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  who should be leaving space for the inside does such a
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  deliberate move to make space so they can both go round it.
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  And they both are fine. And I was like, there is no way
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  that hasn't been put in there by Hamilton.
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  So I was creasing at that and I actually said it to the person I
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  was watching the film with was like, I think Lewis Hamilton's
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  done that. And they were very much like,
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  probably not, but it's nice that you think that.
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  Then later on in the film, there is another scene where at Monza
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  they're going into Turn 1 and it is actually Max Verstappen in
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  the film against another driver and in the same season a couple
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  of seasons ago, Lewis and Max 1 comes out of the pit lane and
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  goes into this turn and. Is it the Max should?
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  It was like the chicane. So Max in theory should have
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  given up with the attempted overtake and didn't, and then
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  end up on top of Lewis's car. In the film, Max concedes and
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  they both make it round. But it was such a deliberate
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  point again that that is what Max should have done and he
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  would have been. Handed in the frame.
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  And I'm watching this and I'm like, how many more of these
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  little Easter eggs are going to be?
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  So the F1 movie is littered with some Easter eggs that people
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  don't know about. And those two, honestly, if
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  you're a big fan of me creasing, if you know what you're looking
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  at, like they are brilliant. But overall, like really enjoyed
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  the film. There's definitely some cringe
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  bits in there. There's some bits where I'm like
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  great acting, but I was actually quite impressed and they've done
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  a very, very good job of making it seem not only like the races
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  actually happened because there were there was some filming that
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  went on at Silverstone on the formation lap.
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  I know where Brad Pitt actually drove around the formation lap,
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  so they could have some footage of him around the other cars.
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  But there's a lot of cameo stuff.
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  It's really clever idea I think. But I was genuinely watching
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  this and I was like, when did they film this?
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  Is this all CGI or have they overlaid their car on another
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  car from scenes in races? Because it's all genuinely very
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  impressive. But the thing that's really cool
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  is the way that it's filmed. For a lot of the film, you
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  actually feel like you're in the car.
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  That's awesome. Yeah, and you do get a bit
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  immersed and there's a few accidents that happen in like a
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  jumping. You're obviously not going to be
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  like thrown back fully. Maybe if you're watching in an
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  IMAX or like in a simulator type cinema you would.
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  But there are some moments where you like really feel immersed
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  and they've done a really cool job.
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  So I, I would still recommend people go and watch it.
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  I would go and see it again just for viewing experience.
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  Like it was really cool. It's just very different to
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  other films that are out there at the moment.
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  So I. Think it makes a big difference,
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  especially if you are an F1 fan, that it's been produced by a
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  driver. Yeah, which I think is awesome.
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  As well. This is the thing.
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  And I just love Lewis. Hamilton I didn't.
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  I didn't think when I first saw that Lewis Hamilton was
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  producing the film, it was one of those where it was like, have
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  they just slapped his name on it and like, what's he done?
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  Watched it and gone thumbs up. But I think especially for those
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  two things and the fact that I said there was a lot of
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  opportunity for actors that don't really know what they're
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  talking about to just say something.
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  Sure. There was a lot where it was
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  like, OK, they've actually clearly been, they've had this
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  whole scenario explained to them before they've acted the scene,
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  so they know how to sound when they're talking about it.
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  Because there was little, little things where they're talking
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  about like drag and certain things that are quite important
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  in Formula One. And it was like, I don't feel
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  like I'm listening to an actor that doesn't understand what
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  they're saying. Maybe that was just them doing a
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  very good job of acting. But at the same time, it kind of
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  all might sound some yeah, input.
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  And I think they did a really, really good job.
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  I saw, I think I saw in the lead up to it being released, there
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  was an interview with Lewis. He was talking about working
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  with Brad Pitt and he was like almost starstruck that he got to
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  work with Brad Pitt. And I'm like, you're Lewis
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  Hamilton. I know.
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  Yeah, Surely, Brad. Pitt is looking at you going
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  like, that's Lewis Hamilton. I if I were Brad Pitt, I'd be
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  like, I'm about to be the main character in a film which is all
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  of Lewis Hamilton's domain. Like I do not want to pick up.
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  But for Lewis, how much are you looking at like?
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  Oh my God. Oh my God, Brad Pitt in a film
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  is so funny. But yeah, he's he.
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  We love Lewis Hamilton. Yeah, and, and to be fair, Brad
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  Pitt plays another character the very much same way that Brad
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  Pitt does, the kind of mysterious, now slightly aged,
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  aesthetically pleasing man. There's a lot of women in the
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  cinema that were very much enjoying the film as well.
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  But yeah, he does a pretty good job.
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  And like I said, there's a few other acting and some cameo
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  roles that are quite cringy at times.
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  But like if you can look past that, because the Formula One
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  drivers are definitely not actors.
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  Yeah, then it can't be as bad as Happy Gilmore 2.
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  I don't know if you've watched that.
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  I literally watched that on the weekend.
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  What a terrible film. Yeah, it was quite hard watch.
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  Terrible. Yeah.
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  I was really excited because they've obviously filmed it
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  alongside the actual regular season when they have the of the
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  lot of the pros so. Bad.
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  Yeah, really. And like the pros didn't help
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  one thing. Actually, this is a good point
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  and I don't want to go too far into this, but there was a bit
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  where they had all the pros in the room, right?
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  And they were going along and they were rinsing each pro for
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  something they'd done. And I was so excited for them to
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  get to Rory. And they didn't.
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  They like he was sat there and I was like, I cannot wait.
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  You're going to bring up the masters, They're going to go in
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  on him. You just piss away.
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  You just piss it away on the last day, Rory.
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  I was so waiting for that and I was going to love it.
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  And they didn't do it. You were too scared, I wouldn't
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  waste your time. No, yeah, don't watch Happy you
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  don't want to, but do go and watch the Formula One movie.
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  What else have we had going on? Well, two things I've done.
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  Lots of running volume. Radically you have.
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  And you've got fast. Well, it's all relative I guess,
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  but you did a an off the cuff ultra, Yeah, which you get very
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  quiet. Yeah, well, I kept quiet because
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  I didn't know I was doing it. So about a month and a bit ago,
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  you sent me a link to represent Team 247.
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  We're hosting an event which was the first ultra of it's kind,
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  similar to a Backyard ultra, 12 hours long, though every hour on
• 17:08
  the hour you run 5.1 kilometers in the trails and then in the
• 17:11
  remaining time you are put with the team by the way, but you
• 17:14
  work on a skier to get Max distance.
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  Such a good idea. Which is on the face of it, we
• 17:19
  were like, OK, so if you're good at ski and you can survive the
• 17:22
  run, you'll do well. You'll do well, but it was a bit
• 17:26
  like high rocks in a way where people are still trying to
• 17:28
  figure out the best way to train for it, the best way to
• 17:30
  strategically attack it. No one went in knowing what to
• 17:33
  do and it was a very, very interesting day.
• 17:36
  I had gone in preparation wise. I think in the previous 30 days
• 17:41
  before I'd run like a total of about 15 K.
• 17:43
  It's not ideal is. It and 12 of those who are with
• 17:45
  you in Majorca. So it wasn't ideal, but it was
• 17:49
  one of those rounds. Something I'd recommend.
• 17:52
  No, and I can say kind of a couple of weeks on, I wouldn't
• 17:56
  recommend, but we'll get to that.
• 17:59
  So I did it and I, I knew competitively I was going to run
• 18:01
  every single. You didn't have to by the way,
• 18:03
  because you're in teams of five. You had to have two runners.
• 18:06
  You scored points for the number of people that ran in the
• 18:08
  distance and you scored points also for the ski out distance.
• 18:10
  So it was in your best interest to have everybody run if they
• 18:12
  could. But if someone was struggling or
• 18:14
  slowing you down too much, then there was no point in them
• 18:16
  running. They should just rest.
• 18:17
  And if everyone, if you run every time you accumulated 60K,
• 18:20
  right? Yeah, exactly.
• 18:21
  So it that that's tough. The interesting thing about it
• 18:25
  though, was that I once again had issues fuelling.
• 18:28
  I've always known that I don't have an appetite when I'm doing
• 18:31
  these sorts of things, but I really, really struggled.
• 18:35
  However, those that didn't struggle actually seem to have a
• 18:39
  worse time for the middle portion of the race because
• 18:42
  there were lots of people. Charlie Bottle, previous guest
• 18:44
  well known in High Rock space, was there running mad cays like
• 18:48
  mad times at the At the start, everyone was running for their.
• 18:51
  Guys built different. So there was also Elite 15 Sean.
• 18:58
  Why is this surname gone out of my head?
• 19:01
  Look at me. I'm useless.
• 19:03
  Sean Short. Big Sean.
• 19:05
  Big Sean from Ireland, yeah, yeah, he was there and he went
• 19:09
  off and he was on pace to run the 1st 5.1 K trail loop in 16
• 19:13
  minutes. His name is going to come to me.
• 19:14
  Yeah, that's really nice, Sean, really sorry.
• 19:17
  Big fan, big fan. But he went off and he was
• 19:20
  running those laps at that same pace pretty much for the 1st 4
• 19:24
  laps and then he got injured. We'll also come back to that.
• 19:26
  But people were doing that and then refueling quite a lot of
• 19:29
  shoving cakes in. There were loads of pastries
• 19:31
  there. People were getting that down.
• 19:33
  I was a bit like, oh fuck, like I'm going to really struggle.
• 19:35
  I'm just going to have to accept that I'm going to hit a hole.
• 19:38
  But what happened was normally in a backyard ultra.
• 19:41
  The remaining time you have in the hour, you can stop, put your
• 19:43
  feet up, have a bit of an appetite, refuel, go again.
• 19:46
  In this scenario, you're getting on the ski Ugg and you're
• 19:48
  ripping it. If you put food in and then go
• 19:51
  and RIP it on a ski, Ugg it wants to come back up.
• 19:54
  Yeah, you'll see it again. And so a lot of the time people
• 19:57
  were either really feeling quite sick and therefore losing their
• 20:00
  appetite quite a lot or feeling terrible on the run following.
• 20:05
  And then the other thing that was going on was a few hours
• 20:07
  into doing this repetitively, not seeing any signs of any
• 20:10
  issues, people starting to get stomach cramps.
• 20:12
  And so there was there was quite a few people, Charlie actually
• 20:15
  being included, who went off really hot and were doing mad
• 20:19
  paces on the ski, mad paces, mad paces on the run.
• 20:22
  And then between hour like 5 and well, between hour 3 for some
• 20:27
  people up to like hour 8 just were unable to function.
• 20:31
  And then they started to get a second win later on in the day
• 20:34
  when they kind of figured themselves out.
• 20:36
  But it was really interesting. I basically just stayed as a
• 20:39
  kind of solid the whole time. Yes.
• 20:41
  I didn't consume anywhere near enough, but I got through the
• 20:44
  day and it was all good. Managed to hold the paces that I
• 20:46
  really wanted to on the Ski Egg. And then running wise, I did
• 20:50
  like two or three laps where I pushed it, but I could only ever
• 20:53
  get it down to like 21 minutes. I think it was my fastest lap.
• 20:56
  And then the next fastest lap was 23 and the next fastest lap
• 21:00
  was like another 23. But each time those hurt me so
• 21:04
  much physically. That wasn't worth it.
• 21:07
  That it yeah, it wasn't really worth it because all I was doing
• 21:09
  I was beating my next teammate in by like 3 or 4 minutes and
• 21:13
  that was the tough thing as well.
• 21:14
  It obviously if you're first back, you're first onto the ski
• 21:16
  erg, which means you've got like you have an arrest.
• 21:19
  So some teams decided to arrest someone because then someone
• 21:23
  could send the run, get and then as soon as they get back, the
• 21:26
  other teammate who's been resting can just get on the ski
• 21:27
  erg and let I'm. Assuming the top three teams.
• 21:30
  All run every all run every time.
• 21:33
  And all three of them had someone pretty much every time
• 21:36
  that was running a sub 195K as mental every lap it was.
• 21:41
  This. The thing that the thing was mad
• 21:43
  was that it was a really cool environment to be in because
• 21:46
  everyone, I would say everyone there was extremely fit and then
• 21:50
  there was a cut above and that's quite humbling because it was,
• 21:54
  it wasn't just a mentality. Everyone had a relatively good
• 21:57
  mentality to be there, but there was a physical difference.
• 22:02
  There was there was some freaks there.
• 22:05
  So yeah, it was quite cool to see that in person.
• 22:07
  And we did all right as a team. I don't think we were expecting
• 22:10
  to do too much, but the the ending was mad.
• 22:14
  So you basically got a point for every 250 meters on the ski.
• 22:17
  And the winning two, well, the top two teams were separated by
• 22:19
  two points, of course. 12 hours. So you got five points per
• 22:23
  person run, but because they all ran there was no difference on
• 22:26
  the running score and so it came down to 500 meters across. 12
• 22:29
  hours of skier game. That is crazy, Yeah, to have it
• 22:32
  that close. It was a really, really good
• 22:34
  event. At the time I didn't really soak
• 22:35
  that in enough because I was too busy trying to.
• 22:37
  Survive. It's like too fun.
• 22:38
  Yeah. And then as I said, we'd come
• 22:40
  back to it. Sean got injured on the 4th lap.
• 22:44
  I think he turned his ankle. This was a bit interesting.
• 22:46
  So he was on Team Whoop, who I don't think came in the top,
• 22:50
  then maybe they came second or they didn't come in the top
• 22:52
  three. No, they weren't.
• 22:53
  Second, because that was Roxfit. No.
• 22:55
  No, Roxfit came third. So they either came second or
• 22:58
  they came fourth. I can't remember, but they tried
• 23:00
  to get a substitute for Sean. They were they were saying,
• 23:03
  look, this is unfair, he's got injured, we're now run it down.
• 23:06
  And they are like a few people were asking around the team like
• 23:08
  do we think this is fair? And I was like, absolutely not.
• 23:11
  I could have gone off and run 16 games and I pulled my hamstring
• 23:13
  straight away and then I'm out. My, my.
• 23:15
  There's no way that my team would be allowed a replacement
• 23:17
  just because someone in your team did it and they've got a
• 23:19
  bit of a kind of reputation for being a good athlete.
• 23:22
  No way do you get a replacement. So he had to unfortunately just
• 23:25
  stay on the ski and rest every run, which did harm them quite
• 23:28
  quickly, but they would let. Them still come forth.
• 23:33
  Oh, like. Or like close to the top then
• 23:35
  they've managed to do. Something, I mean, that's the
• 23:37
  thing, they they would get back and he'd jump on the ski and
• 23:39
  hold like 130 per 500 meters for however long.
• 23:43
  So he wasn't useless, but he just obviously wasn't able to
• 23:45
  put in what he wanted to. And then for me, I after doing
• 23:50
  60 K plus whatever I was walking around and the skier goes like
• 23:53
  2425 K the end of the day I didn't.
• 23:58
  I went back that day still very able to walk around.
• 24:01
  The next day I felt great. Next day genuinely felt fine.
• 24:04
  I didn't sleep great, but I felt fine.
• 24:07
  And then I did the thing because I know it's been someone's
• 24:09
  growing my gears in the past about going straight back in
• 24:11
  training. So I like eased myself back in,
• 24:13
  tried to take it really easy. And a week on I was like, cool,
• 24:15
  I'm going to reintroduce myself into some speed work.
• 24:18
  And then I did something to my back in the gym doing a preach
• 24:22
  curl of all things. And then that basically hasn't
• 24:25
  left me to the point where even today is the best day that it's
• 24:28
  felt. But like, I still can't really
• 24:29
  turn my head very easily so I think I just had a very delayed
• 24:32
  reaction to surprising my body with a horrible event.
• 24:35
  Yeah, I think there was a lot of Skiog to get through.
• 24:38
  Yeah, but you didn't really notice that because you
• 24:40
  obviously weren't. I mean, in our team it.
• 24:42
  Wasn't more Yeah, you're more concerned about the run.
• 24:45
  Yeah. So in our team, we were like
• 24:47
  Skiog wasn't necessarily everyone's strength.
• 24:49
  So we knew that like people were going to push it as hard as they
• 24:51
  could, but it wasn't going to be like you're trying to break the
• 24:53
  Skiog. Whereas in other teams there was
• 24:55
  a lot of that going on, which meant that they were rotating
• 24:59
  every 30 seconds for the whole day.
• 25:01
  We were very much, I was very much doing like I'll do 1K at a
• 25:04
  time and try and bring the average down a bit.
• 25:07
  But then I can also leave and put my legs up because I think
• 25:10
  only two of us in our team ran every lap.
• 25:12
  OK, fine. So I needed to go and get my
• 25:14
  rest with my legs and I was like the best way I can do that is
• 25:16
  bring our ski average down as much as I can in a block and
• 25:20
  then go off and rest for than me just come on every 250 meters
• 25:24
  and not getting any rest. But it was a really good event.
• 25:27
  I think I, I the tactics behind it is what makes that event so
• 25:30
  interesting. And you've never seen an ultra
• 25:33
  event like that. But yeah, the the combination of
• 25:36
  the, the machine and the running, the running being in
• 25:39
  trails, it being a team of five, it being every hour on the hour
• 25:41
  for 12, like they'd really thought, fought really hard
• 25:45
  about making it a tactical event as much as possible.
• 25:48
  So I do want to say also, I was invited by Saskia.
• 25:51
  So Saskia, if you're listening to this, thank you very much.
• 25:53
  I really appreciated that. Also got the chance for those of
• 25:55
  you that know that I do camera stuff for a living, I took my
• 25:57
  camera up so I got some cool stuff while I was there.
• 26:00
  I think next year I'd love to go back to film it.
• 26:03
  I, I think I would get there and I would have massive FOMO, but I
• 26:07
  don't think I would want to do it next year.
• 26:09
  Not because of how much it hurt or anything like that, but I
• 26:13
  think next year the athletes that turn up.
• 26:16
  Will be another. Will be a different level, it'll
• 26:18
  be it will be ultra marathoners and people with a ski like a
• 26:22
  Nordic ski background because I just think like the level this
• 26:25
  year was was very good. But even in the winning teams,
• 26:28
  the first ever time. They've done it.
• 26:30
  Exactly. I think there there will be far
• 26:32
  more strategy next year and there will be a totally
• 26:34
  different type of endurance athlete there.
• 26:36
  Most of the people there were the people that I see at High
• 26:38
  Rocks events. There wasn't anyone that was
• 26:40
  like an out and out. Well, there wasn't a full team
• 26:42
  of out and out endurance runners or ultra runners or.
• 26:45
  Unless they change the format next year.
• 26:48
  Oh. It doesn't necessarily have to
• 26:50
  be set in stone. That would be.
• 26:52
  Interesting. That would be cool.
• 26:53
  But yeah, really good event. Now you're going to tell me why
• 26:55
  you're getting so fast. I don't really have an answer.
• 26:59
  I was, I was originally training for High Rocks.
• 27:04
  Obviously with the seasons fast approaching, which has come like
• 27:07
  very quickly and we had, well, I had a couple of races booked in
• 27:11
  towards the back end of September.
• 27:13
  I had a solo ticket and a double ticket.
• 27:16
  I've now got rid of my solo ticket.
• 27:18
  So I've just I've just got a double ticket for Rome and then
• 27:21
  I've got pro solos, Prolos, Prolos.
• 27:26
  Wow, Prolos. Yeah, yeah, it's become that in
• 27:28
  London in December. So my, my big aim was just do
• 27:32
  that basically. And I wanted to test the 10K.
• 27:37
  So I've actually got a 10K race coming up at the end of August.
• 27:41
  Wait, this month, this month, it's the last day of August and
• 27:45
  everyone is getting involved with the shortage 10 Ki think
• 27:49
  that's a soccer knee event shortage 10K that was too close
• 27:53
  to Rome. So as I was cycling to work a
• 27:56
  couple of weeks ago, I saw a poster for the well known
• 28:00
  Woolwich 10K. Oh, yeah, Yeah, you know that
• 28:02
  one. Yeah.
• 28:02
  Woolwich. Yeah, the Woolwich 10K.
• 28:05
  So you know the you book your tickets through like an events
• 28:10
  page called Let's Do It. And when you go on to the
• 28:12
  Shoreditch 10K, it shows you all of these people who have signed
• 28:16
  up to do this race. There's like thousands and
• 28:17
  thousands of people. I went on the Woolwich page,
• 28:20
  it's like 32 people and I bet they're all amazing.
• 28:25
  It's going. To be like RAM running a sub
• 28:28
  3310K isn't. It so we'll see how we go, but
• 28:32
  hopefully pipeline there's going to be a bit of triathlon coming
• 28:35
  up to discuss. Well, I mean, you've been doing
• 28:38
  the training for it. Your your Instagram story is
• 28:40
  just covered in Strava, maps and different things.
• 28:44
  I'm that guy now. Yeah, given getting all the
• 28:46
  kudok, I actually need to give you more.
• 28:48
  You should be giving me more kudok.
• 28:49
  I'm so sorry. I put so much effort into my
• 28:51
  Strava as well for such little return.
• 28:54
  I've actually stopped using Instagram.
• 28:55
  I just use Strava. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:57
  And then the straw, the Instagram is just a direct.
• 29:00
  Share to Instagram. Well, one other thing to
• 29:05
  mention. You mentioned that the hierarchy
• 29:08
  season's coming around very quickly.
• 29:10
  We did a little thing last weekend.
• 29:14
  It was pretty cool. You going to explain it?
• 29:17
  Yeah, we did a hierarchy simulation.
• 29:19
  Well, we hosted 1. So at Unit 9 Elms in London, we
• 29:24
  decided to do a premium hierarchy SIM because most of
• 29:28
  The Sims that I know of don't have sleds and aren't able to do
• 29:33
  4 kilometer runs. Which is, yeah, which is
• 29:35
  something that is like, I then feel like every SIM you go to,
• 29:41
  especially in London, is like a good workout.
• 29:45
  But like, how do you know where you're at?
• 29:46
  It's not necessarily a good representation, is it?
• 29:48
  No, like I can't go and do that workout and know how I'm going
• 29:52
  to do on the race day or even have a really good understanding
• 29:54
  of where I'm at. There's some things you can take
• 29:56
  away from it. Maybe the the length of SIM is
• 29:59
  similar duration to the actual event that you're going to be
• 30:02
  racing. But if you're not getting the
• 30:04
  exposure and the stimulus of pulling and pushing a sled,
• 30:07
  because that's the bottleneck for most simulations and, and
• 30:11
  gyms try and do their best around equipment with bikes or
• 30:15
  box step UPS or whatever treadmills turned off.
• 30:18
  So you're pushing the belt rather than actually getting the
• 30:20
  the help from the treadmill. It's just not the same stimulus.
• 30:24
  So like you said, it was something that we wanted to be
• 30:27
  able to offer and fortunately the, the team at unit were
• 30:31
  really helpful and, and let us use the space.
• 30:33
  So kind of a collaborative event between unit yourself and then
• 30:37
  the team at Rockst and we did like a trial SIM over the
• 30:40
  weekend, which was like a a huge success.
• 30:43
  Hugely. Like, I was so ready for things
• 30:45
  to go wrong. Oh yeah, and the other thing.
• 30:48
  Was yeah, I was having bad anxiety that.
• 30:49
  Week, yeah, I think I, I was in charge of timings and that was a
• 30:53
  bit of a that was stressful and I kind of decided what I think
• 30:56
  would be safe and turned out, I think that is the magic number.
• 30:59
  Yeah, I'm glad you were in charge of that.
• 31:00
  But we. Well, I didn't tell you, but I
• 31:04
  had to play around with a couple of people shortening the gap and
• 31:07
  lengthening the gap to kind of see where that sweet spot was.
• 31:11
  And when I shortened the gap was when you came over and you
• 31:16
  looked at me because the person. So basically for context, there
• 31:20
  is one of each sled. So we had to set people off to
• 31:23
  make sure they didn't crossover. But after the sleds, there was
• 31:25
  plenty of room for people to be able to overtake each other.
• 31:27
  We just had to set the timings right so that people didn't
• 31:29
  catch each other before the sled.
• 31:32
  On this short interval between two people that I set off, one
• 31:37
  of them let go of the rope as the other one came into the gym.
• 31:41
  It was, it was tight. And like as much as that you
• 31:43
  could say was perfect timing, it was a little bit worrying.
• 31:47
  And we'd rather have a bit of a buffer because both of those
• 31:50
  people are quite experienced as well.
• 31:51
  So if we actually had one of them was less experienced and
• 31:53
  the other one chasing was more experienced, that would have
• 31:56
  been a nasty crossover. So yeah.
• 31:59
  But in the same vein as we want to be offering the best
• 32:02
  possible, we don't want to be in a situation where we compromise
• 32:05
  someone's time because they're getting stuck on the station as
• 32:09
  they're waiting for equipment. So for us, it was about
• 32:12
  delivering a product that everyone could come away from
• 32:14
  being like, hey, those guys really did a good job for us.
• 32:17
  And, and now we've benchmarked the beginning of our season with
• 32:20
  an actual representation of of our high rocks time.
• 32:23
  And the run route was slightly longer each time because there
• 32:28
  was no rock zone in in the actual facility.
• 32:30
  Like we slash, you had thought of basically everything and
• 32:34
  every scenario. And it goes to show that with a
• 32:37
  bit of planning you can make a space which isn't crazy big.
• 32:42
  You know it can fit however many people we had down for a
• 32:44
  simulation over the course of Sunday morning.
• 32:47
  Sunday, yeah, Sunday. I mean, we, we, I think we got
• 32:50
  through 25 different waves where we're setting one, one person or
• 32:55
  one team off at a time. 25 different waves in Yeah, about
• 32:59
  two and 2 1/2 hours. And the majority of those were
• 33:02
  double s, weren't they? Yeah, we had.
• 33:04
  We had a lot of double s and that was also quite successful
• 33:06
  in that a lot of people hadn't done a hierarch before, but
• 33:08
  we're able to do it as a double and really be able to figure out
• 33:12
  what their racing was like, get a feel for it.
• 33:14
  And I think that's the big thing.
• 33:15
  A lot of people that I know that haven't done a higher ox before
• 33:18
  they go, I don't think I'm fit enough to do 1.
• 33:20
  And it's like, well you are because you know you've done the
• 33:24
  basic enough training. I do believe that 98% of people
• 33:27
  can finish a higher ox. It's just the time that you get,
• 33:30
  and I think that is quite concerning for some people is
• 33:32
  that they might not want to pay £120 to do a slow time but you
• 33:38
  don't know what you're going to do until you do 1.
• 33:40
  So like there is also that platform there and we had
• 33:43
  someone who did their first ever High Rocks solo on the day and
• 33:48
  he said to me, I'm coming out from Manchester this morning,
• 33:52
  I'm really not going to be in the best shape but I'll give it
• 33:54
  a crack. I will come.
• 33:56
  But expect me to do like an hour and 45.
• 33:58
  He did it in an hour and 30 and he was so happy.
• 34:01
  If he'd done that in his first ever actual high rock solo, he'd
• 34:04
  be delighted. And I was like, well, you're
• 34:05
  already there. And we were looking at the times
• 34:08
  that people were clocking and they were directly comparable,
• 34:10
  which meant that we did a good job of the distance, the rock
• 34:12
  zone included in the run and that sort of thing.
• 34:15
  So we have proven the point of that.
• 34:17
  This is a serious SIM, It's a premium SIM because we are
• 34:22
  setting you off and you can run your own race.
• 34:23
  You're not going to get beaten up, elbows out, that kind of
• 34:27
  thing. But if you basically want to
• 34:29
  come along, understand where your fitness is directly
• 34:31
  comparable to a race, then we've built that for you.
• 34:34
  And it's in central London so it's easy to get to.
• 34:36
  It's like 5 minutes walk from Vauxhall Station which is great.
• 34:40
  So I think it's fair to say we are interested in doing more of
• 34:43
  them. So if you're listening to this
• 34:45
  and you are interested in doing one of those, we also have some,
• 34:48
  I've got some fun ideas for things that we can tag onto the
• 34:51
  end of the day, different types of racing perhaps.
• 34:54
  Then keep an eye out because we will be posting more information
• 34:57
  I will be putting onto the podcast page as well.
• 34:59
  And I think like a big thing from the rocks perspective,
• 35:02
  we're obviously offering training.
• 35:04
  And the majority of the training that we're doing is specific to
• 35:07
  high rocks is being able to tie in your basically like a
• 35:11
  benchmark from how you perform in the SIM with looking at areas
• 35:15
  of weakness and where you can improve upon and using the
• 35:19
  season schedule to basically work backwards from and go.
• 35:23
  This is when you should be doing your simulation.
• 35:26
  This is X amount of time before you race.
• 35:28
  This is how you can capitalize on the data that you've taken
• 35:31
  from the SIM to make your time and performance better.
• 35:34
  Yeah, so it does all tie in very, very well.
• 35:36
  So yeah, like I said, if you're interesting being coached by the
• 35:39
  ROCS team or you actually do want to get a benchmark for your
• 35:41
  own training, maybe your coach sent you because they want you
• 35:45
  to do a race, but you don't want to travel to Rome or pay however
• 35:48
  much money to race, then this is a really good alternative.
• 35:51
  So we would very much love to see you down there.
• 35:54
  Now there's one thing that I'm I need you to talk about before we
• 35:59
  get into grind my gears because this is like the opposite of a
• 36:02
  grind my gears. This is a recommendation.
• 36:04
  Oh, oh, completely forgotten. Yeah, Charles has also not just
• 36:08
  been getting quick, he's been reading.
• 36:11
  Hey, some people have it all. So yeah, actually I was, I was
• 36:16
  clearing out my, I was going to say my library.
• 36:21
  OK, in my tiny flat, I've been clearing out my bookshelf
• 36:24
  because I've got too many books at this point.
• 36:26
  And I stumbled across this book, which I'll talk about in a
• 36:30
  second on YouTube. You can already see what I'm
• 36:31
  holding, but it's a book called Bounce by Matthew Syed.
• 36:36
  And it's, it actually means quite a lot to me because I
• 36:38
  think this was one of the first books that I read that I
• 36:41
  actually enjoyed. And I think it was like a
• 36:45
  desperate attempt of my parents to try and get me to read when I
• 36:48
  was a bit younger because I I legit did no reading.
• 36:51
  So I must have read this the first time in my mid teens when
• 36:55
  I was still at school. But essentially it's a good
• 36:58
  gateway book into kind of performance and it debunks the
• 37:03
  myth around you have to be talented to be good at
• 37:05
  something, which I really resonated at the time.
• 37:09
  But we talk a lot about that on the podcast, whether it's
• 37:12
  performance, Physiology, Physiology or psychology.
• 37:17
  And we reference probably one of two books, either Endure by Alex
• 37:21
  Hutchinson or, you know, and now A Sports Gene by David Epstein.
• 37:25
  So this will be the 4th book that we can add on to the list.
• 37:28
  But this one, I actually reread it last week when I found it,
• 37:32
  which goes to show that it's like it's super digestible.
• 37:35
  Matthew Side, he wrote wrote it is a well renowned columnist for
• 37:39
  sports magazines. I think he writes for The Times
• 37:41
  a little bit about sport. But yeah, it's kind of the the
• 37:45
  battle between nature and nurture.
• 37:48
  But yeah, I found it and I was like, I need to share this with
• 37:50
  someone. And rather than me talking about
• 37:52
  endure the whole time on the podcast, why not go out and read
• 37:55
  Bounce, which ironically has exactly the same colours on the
• 37:58
  cover? I.
• 37:59
  Was going to say yeah. It looks very similar.
• 38:00
  When you pulled out, I was like, is that the exact same or the
• 38:03
  exact same theories? Exact same publisher.
• 38:04
  It's actually the same book, but yeah, I can I can recommend this
• 38:08
  more in a book that kind of set me down the path of actually
• 38:12
  being interested in sport performance and and coaching.
• 38:16
  I think it now, looking back at it, it must have been
• 38:18
  subconscious at the time, but looking back at it now, that
• 38:21
  might be the reason why I'm I'm still a a coach.
• 38:24
  Oh really? So that's that's my book
• 38:25
  recommendation. Well, there you go.
• 38:27
  Especially if people who are interested in maybe becoming a
• 38:30
  coach, but also like understanding more about why
• 38:33
  they're being coached something. I think that's something that I
• 38:35
  find really important. It's like I don't like doing
• 38:37
  something else, I understand why.
• 38:39
  And so if you can think more like a coach, then you might be
• 38:41
  able to understand that without having to pest them to explain.
• 38:44
  My my my. Also my favorite thing I'll say
• 38:46
  about the book is it like similar to Injure?
• 38:48
  It uses real life examples of sportsmen and women.
• 38:53
  And those examples, they're always fascinating when you,
• 38:55
  like, depict them. And I think that's a word.
• 38:59
  Sure. Depict them.
• 39:01
  No, no. No sound like depict Dick pic.
• 39:06
  That's terrible. You always, always have to bring
• 39:09
  down the tone, don't you? I was we were having a really
• 39:12
  adult competition books then wow and.
• 39:14
  Now I wanted to say, oh, I really resonate with that, but
• 39:18
  maybe I do, maybe I don't. But yeah, I definitely recommend
• 39:20
  reading this. Cool.
• 39:21
  Well there we go. That was the adult bit done.
• 39:23
  Now we can be the angry adults because we're back to the fan
• 39:27
  favorite Crime My Gears section of the podcast.
• 39:32
  What has been pissing you off? I look forward to this.
• 39:36
  I will actually say you guys again, you have the option to
• 39:40
  write in. I think it's been quiet recently
• 39:43
  and genuinely I think it's because people have gone on
• 39:46
  holiday and let some steam off. Yeah, but like, people haven't
• 39:49
  been getting that annoyed about things.
• 39:50
  I've been feeling quite mellow recently, as really, Yeah, I've
• 39:52
  had to. I've actually had to scroll back
• 39:54
  through my Cry my Gears list so when I was more angry.
• 40:01
  But can I start with a really niche one?
• 40:04
  Yes. I really get annoyed when people
• 40:08
  call an Echo bike an assault bike.
• 40:12
  Or an assault bike, an echo bike.
• 40:15
  And it's so irrational, but it really frustrates me.
• 40:18
  And one time I remember it so vividly, it riles me up.
• 40:23
  Even now. I was coaching.
• 40:25
  I think it was a high risk class.
• 40:26
  It could have been a CFE on name, no names, but someone
• 40:30
  didn't want to run for whatever reason, maybe they were injured.
• 40:33
  I was like, just hop on the echo bike and they were like looking
• 40:36
  around like, oh, the assault bike.
• 40:37
  I was like, no, no, the Echo bike and they walked over like,
• 40:42
  oh, the assault bike. I was like, we're about to fight
• 40:44
  now. I.
• 40:45
  Felt like it was probably me. It definitely was.
• 40:48
  What is? What is the difference then for
• 40:51
  those that are on a? Well, so there's there's a few
• 40:54
  like actual differences around the machinery and how they
• 40:57
  function, but the main difference is the Echo bike is
• 41:00
  made by Rogue, the company Rogue.
• 41:03
  Assault Bike is made by Assault Fitness, so they're made by
• 41:06
  different brands. They look very similar and they
• 41:08
  function in a very similar way. This is terrible.
• 41:11
  It's so nerdy. The Echo bike is powered by a
• 41:15
  big rubber band, hence why when you go on it, it sounds really
• 41:18
  quiet. It's like a big fan when you
• 41:20
  jump on an Assault bike and there's lots of other different
• 41:23
  brands of similar bike, but the Assault Bike is the the most
• 41:26
  popular one probably. It's chain operated, so like a
• 41:29
  push bike, so it sounds a lot louder and as a result you can
• 41:33
  actually get a bit more purchase on it.
• 41:35
  The Echo bikes are more popular now because they're far more
• 41:37
  sturdy, so they last longer. So if you're a gym owner, you
• 41:41
  only have to buy it once and the longevity is much better than
• 41:44
  the assault bikes, which traditionally just break all the
• 41:47
  time. But it's either an Echo bike or
• 41:49
  an. So performance wise there's not
• 41:51
  much difference apart from the fact that you can get a bit more
• 41:53
  out of a chain than a doubt. Yeah, maybe.
• 41:57
  I think the Echo bike is actually harder because the fan
• 42:01
  is larger so you create more resistance or there's more air
• 42:05
  resistance when you're trying to push and pull with your arms and
• 42:07
  spin your legs. I I do find the assault bike
• 42:11
  easier and easier to get more out of, but that's because I'm
• 42:15
  just small. Bigger people are fine on
• 42:17
  either. This might piss you off more.
• 42:20
  No, that is a niche. But I want to know if this
• 42:22
  pisses you off more. What if someone was like the fan
• 42:24
  bike because people call them fan bikes?
• 42:28
  So the reason why people call them fan bikes is to encompass
• 42:32
  whatever bike you have access to.
• 42:34
  So I much prefer someone saying I jump on the fan bike, yeah,
• 42:37
  because then they're demonstrating the knowledge and
• 42:40
  understanding to go, well, actually, I don't know which one
• 42:43
  it is. It's a fan bike, but lots of
• 42:45
  programming that you receive, whether whoever's programming
• 42:48
  will go jump on the fan bike because they don't know what you
• 42:51
  have access to. Fan bike's just not as cool as a
• 42:53
  source or echo. Sometimes I'll write it in my
• 42:55
  programming to my clients because I don't know which bike
• 42:58
  they have access to any gym. Fair enough that is niche but I
• 43:02
  mean find grind it grinds your. Gear, I feel much better now
• 43:05
  because we've talked about. It my one and this I wrote down
• 43:08
  a little while ago is I, I tell me if I've said this before,
• 43:14
  fracture and breaking a bone. Oh no, you haven't.
• 43:19
  OK, so people say, oh, I broke my bone, and then people will
• 43:25
  also say I fractured my bone. That's the same fucking thing.
• 43:29
  Yeah. And so many people go, no, no,
• 43:32
  no. A fracture isn't as serious as a
• 43:34
  break. A break means it broke.
• 43:37
  A fracture is just like a crack. Nope, it's the same fucking
• 43:40
  thing. Look it up.
• 43:42
  It pissed me off as a kid that broke a lot of bones around the
• 43:46
  time he was like 1516. I'd come back from the hospital
• 43:48
  and people would be like, oh, is it broken?
• 43:50
  I'd be like, yeah, it's fractured.
• 43:51
  And they'd be like, oh, at least it's not broken.
• 43:53
  Like I'm in a fucking cast. My arm is in two.
• 43:57
  It's the same thing. It's the same thing.
• 43:59
  Yeah, that, that. But I'm sure there's like
• 44:02
  there's levels of severity. Yeah, like you have terms.
• 44:06
  So when I first broke my wrist, it was a green stick fracture,
• 44:09
  which means it's a crack part way through a particular bone.
• 44:12
  But like. But it's not the the bone is
• 44:14
  like snapped in half. Exactly.
• 44:17
  But like if it had, they'd just said it's a fracture.
• 44:21
  You're not a green stick fracture.
• 44:22
  But like, technically if I have a skateboard and I stamp on it
• 44:27
  in the middle and it's cracked, the skateboard is broken, yes,
• 44:31
  but it's actually cracked. It's not snapped.
• 44:34
  So like, yeah, it's they're all breaks.
• 44:36
  A different word for the same thing.
• 44:38
  Exactly. Yeah, that annoyed.
• 44:40
  That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 44:42
  I'm a bit nervous about my next one.
• 44:44
  Oh, God, there's when I, when I go through these, there's so
• 44:50
  many that just that shouldn't be, shouldn't be said out loud.
• 44:53
  And so this is a popular 1, and I don't know if it's now because
• 44:57
  I've started doing more triathlon training and I'm
• 44:59
  seeing more of it on social media, but I see lots of people
• 45:02
  if they don't have access to an indoor trainer, like a turbo
• 45:06
  trainer, they'll go to the gym to do their indoor cycles.
• 45:11
  Whatever, I get it. Maybe it's better for time.
• 45:13
  I don't want to ride their bike outside, but they wear full
• 45:16
  Lycra now. I'm trying to think of a
• 45:21
  comparison but it's a little bit like wearing full kit to play 5A
• 45:26
  side. Do you know what I mean?
• 45:27
  I've I saw a comparison but I can tie right into this.
• 45:30
  There is a guy called cricket dad I think on Instagram.
• 45:35
  Stumbled across him on my like as I was doing scrolling the
• 45:37
  other day. He wears full cricket kit to
• 45:40
  play on AVR set. Oh, nice.
• 45:43
  But like, that's the same. Yeah, that's the same.
• 45:45
  And if you're if you're feeling attacked because you were full
• 45:48
  lycra on a bike in the gym. This is just a polite a polite a
• 45:52
  polite reminder that you don't need to wear your jersey bib
• 45:55
  shorts complete although. Bib shorts and nothing else in a
• 45:59
  public gym? Not fine.
• 46:01
  I'm put the nipples away. I'm assuming that if you're
• 46:04
  going to be wearing the bib shorts, you're not allowed in a
• 46:08
  public gym to take your T-shirt off.
• 46:11
  Yeah, you shouldn't be. So imagine people will.
• 46:13
  Yeah, but OK, so I I'm sure the etiquette then, if you're riding
• 46:19
  indoors with bib shorts on, remove the shoulder straps.
• 46:23
  Just have them round. Yeah, have them hang them put AT
• 46:25
  shirt on. Yeah, yeah, but you don't need
• 46:27
  the jersey. I have another one that is gym
• 46:31
  related or gym related, generally running related.
• 46:35
  People like to do this a lot when they're talking about
• 46:36
  treadmill running. OK, people put up the paces they
• 46:41
  do for their intervals or their temper runs or whatever, but
• 46:44
  when they put it up they'll say like 2 kilometers warm up. 1K at
• 46:51
  5 minute pace pace is not needed.
• 46:56
  This is like this has actually been pissing me off quite a lot.
• 46:58
  So people will be like, I did it at 5 minute pace.
• 47:01
  I'm scared you've been looking at my strada.
• 47:03
  But like 5 minutes per kilometer is the pace.
• 47:06
  Yeah. You don't say 5 minute 430 pace.
• 47:11
  430 per kilometre is the pace. 30 pace is not a thing.
• 47:16
  Oh, so they're writing the word pace.
• 47:18
  Or they're saying it. OK, fine.
• 47:20
  Like 430 pace, what are you talking about?
• 47:24
  It's 430 per kilometre. I did 5 minutes running at 4
• 47:27
  minutes. Thirty per kilometre not I did 5
• 47:29
  minutes running at 4:30 pace. This is niche, but that upsets
• 47:33
  me quite a lot. Yeah.
• 47:35
  Because 430 pace is a term that's been made-up and is
• 47:37
  accepted and. Usually, usually we agree and
• 47:42
  I'm trying hard. I'm trying hard to get on your
• 47:44
  level here. I I don't know it's.
• 47:46
  Bad English. It's when people say 6:00 AM in
• 47:49
  the morning. When else was it?
• 47:52
  When yeah, that's annoying. 530 pace, Yes, you ran 530 per
• 47:56
  kilometer. Something that really gets to me
• 47:59
  as well is when someone uses this when they're typing 24 hour
• 48:03
  clock and then we'll also put PM.
• 48:06
  I'm like they've gone 1530 PM. I'm like, thanks for clarifying.
• 48:14
  I'm good with that. No, the AM in the morning thing,
• 48:16
  which I just threw in there actually, that really grinds my
• 48:19
  gears quite a lot when people do that.
• 48:22
  OK, I've got two more quick ones.
• 48:26
  Yeah, you go for it. People that drive with their
• 48:30
  maps on satellite mode I can't see.
• 48:33
  No, that's I. Literally cannot see where I'm
• 48:36
  supposed to go because it's on satellite mode.
• 48:38
  And the other one is people that use Waze.
• 48:42
  You don't like Waze? Why do we have a childish UI?
• 48:45
  Like the user interface looks like it was designed to be on a
• 48:48
  plastic phone? Yeah, don't tell me that it is
• 48:50
  better than Google Maps. And I don't care if Google Maps
• 48:53
  takes me one minute longer than whatever your fancy software
• 48:55
  does. I don't have to look.
• 48:57
  At it, but doesn't it tell you like speed cameras and it gives
• 49:00
  you all. Supposedly, but like it doesn't
• 49:02
  have to and Google does that as well.
• 49:03
  Yeah, and also just like, just don't speed.
• 49:06
  Well, my counter to that as someone that likes to know that
• 49:10
  the car can go fast sometimes, is use your eyes.
• 49:14
  Yeah, like sometimes. I've been caught out by mobile
• 49:16
  speed camera vans, don't get me wrong, but they're fucking
• 49:20
  yellow. I was driving in Slovenia
• 49:22
  recently, their cameras white. Yeah, hard to see.
• 49:26
  CCTV camera, equal speed camera over there.
• 49:29
  They can be one in the same. Yeah, I am still expecting
• 49:32
  numerous speeding tickets because also their roads make no
• 49:35
  sense. So like there is a general rule
• 49:36
  of what you're supposed to do. Sometimes I'm talking past some,
• 49:40
  sometimes I'm driving past people and I'm overtaking them
• 49:42
  and I'm like, oh shit, I'm going too fast.
• 49:44
  And then they're all overtaking me two minutes later.
• 49:47
  And then the speed, I can see 3 speed signs that are 40
• 49:50
  kilometers an hour up and down within the same kilometer.
• 49:54
  And I'm just like, wow, I must be doing 80 pace.
• 50:00
  That's good. I mean, wait, have you got one
• 50:02
  more? Yeah, but you guys?
• 50:03
  OK, arriving to a race that could be a running race or maybe
• 50:09
  a high rocks race. Wearing your race shoes?
• 50:13
  Oh. That annoys me.
• 50:14
  Yeah, that's fine, because you shouldn't just be wasting them
• 50:16
  like that. I'm just like, come in sliders
• 50:19
  man. Yeah, like, look like, you know
• 50:21
  what you're doing. Like real athletes.
• 50:22
  Yeah. Comfortable until they don't
• 50:24
  have to be. That's what it is.
• 50:27
  Actually. I said I had one more.
• 50:28
  I actually have two for this. Episode 1 is a revisit of last
• 50:32
  episode. OK, the Olympic thing.
• 50:35
  OK, so quick context. The Olympic ceremony happens,
• 50:41
  but some sports have already started, which makes no sense to
• 50:43
  me. I don't know why sports start
• 50:45
  before the Olympic ceremony when it's the opening ceremony.
• 50:47
  It should come before everything else.
• 50:49
  We both independently went away and looked up why it happens.
• 50:53
  And I'm delighted to tell you, I don't know if you want to give
• 50:57
  the official reasoning word for word, but the actual reason they
• 51:01
  do it is that there isn't a reason.
• 51:04
  It's poor planning and they admit that and they do it every
• 51:07
  time. It's something about there being
• 51:09
  so many sports events that is such a tight schedule.
• 51:12
  They have to, they have to start some sports before.
• 51:14
  But then that just defeats the point.
• 51:16
  Just move the ceremony. I think they they use events
• 51:19
  like football as the example, but I'm just like there's so
• 51:23
  many stadiums that they're using around the country of the the
• 51:27
  host nation that yeah. So, the official says due to the
• 51:31
  tight schedule of the Games, it is normal for some sports events
• 51:35
  to start two or three days before the opening ceremony.
• 51:37
  Cool. So, so you're.
• 51:39
  Correct, it's like it. There's no reason to not just do
• 51:42
  the opening ceremony two to three days before they before
• 51:45
  it's supposed to be so. We could form our own Olympic
• 51:49
  Committee. We could consult for the Olympic
• 51:51
  Committee, yeah. Easily.
• 51:53
  And just move everything two to three days further back.
• 51:56
  Yeah, after the ceremony, whatever.
• 51:58
  Nightmare. But there, there we are.
• 51:59
  A lot of people thought I was an idiot and there was going to be
• 52:01
  a really good reason. There's not so.
• 52:03
  It's a shame. I wish there had been a good
• 52:04
  reason. Yeah, the actually, the other
• 52:07
  crime ideas, we said we didn't have too much input from angry
• 52:09
  people this week, But without asking for crime ideas, I had
• 52:12
  five people send me a picture that was on Instagram, including
• 52:18
  you. Oh.
• 52:19
  No. Tesco Tesco have put themselves
• 52:23
  as part of Nemesis. I was wondering what I'd done.
• 52:25
  Yeah, Tesco have put themselves as arch nemesis.
• 52:28
  For those that need a bit of context on why that is, quite a
• 52:31
  few episodes now. We spoke about Grind My Gears,
• 52:34
  things that are pissing us off and my thing is birthday cake
• 52:36
  flavored things. Birthday cake is not a flavour.
• 52:39
  A cake has a flavour. Birthday cake flavoured things
• 52:42
  also taste awful, like they're so sweet they've got funfetti in
• 52:45
  them. Tesco when?
• 52:47
  Fetti. Tesco, I doubt it was because of
• 52:51
  what I said on the episode but they thought wow we're going to
• 52:55
  make a birthday cake flavoured sandwich and like this is this
• 52:58
  is legit. I thought it was bullshit when I
• 53:00
  first got sent it but they have released a birth cake.
• 53:03
  A birthday cake flavoured sandwich.
• 53:06
  But that has to be in response for to the to the M&S
• 53:09
  Strawberries and Cream sandwich. Yes, so I haven't had that.
• 53:12
  M&S have done a strawberries and cream sandwich, but the I
• 53:15
  believe the bread is like sweet bread and I thought it was like
• 53:18
  sponge, whatever. But that to me is a cake like
• 53:22
  that is a flavour of cake Vic. 'S sponge, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:24
  So that you could say this is a birthday cake cake.
• 53:28
  A birthday cake sandwich? Yeah, fine.
• 53:30
  But calling it a birthday cake sandwich and just shoving a
• 53:32
  random flavour with funfetti in a sandwich is not.
• 53:36
  That is birthday cake flavin. It's going to taste bad.
• 53:37
  I tried to get us one of those sandwiches and the only thing
• 53:42
  that could piss me off more than someone selling a birthday cake
• 53:46
  flavoured sandwich in a meal deal is the fact that it was
• 53:49
  sold out in two big Tescos big. Tescos.
• 53:52
  Big Tescos and I even went to their petrol stations to see and
• 53:56
  they didn't have any. It wasn't even listed but the
• 53:58
  shelf was empty and that just. That pisses me off so much.
• 54:02
  So what I did was I went to Marks and Spencer's to state my
• 54:06
  annoyance at Tesco for doing such a stupid thing and I've
• 54:09
  bought. Oh, he's actually got one.
• 54:11
  I've got one. I was going to cut it in half so
• 54:14
  we could share it, but you've actually had.
• 54:15
  This. Yeah, I have, yeah.
• 54:17
  Do you know when I had it as well?
• 54:18
  We're. Going to open this while you
• 54:20
  talk. It's not going to take long, but
• 54:22
  I'll try and drag it out. So we're just touched down in
• 54:25
  the airport in Gatwick. Yeah, we'd come, we'd come back.
• 54:29
  Yeah, we'd come back from Majorca and I was hungry.
• 54:32
  I was waiting for you to slowly make your way through the
• 54:35
  electronic barriers. Well.
• 54:36
  Let's not talk about. That and M&S was the only the
• 54:40
  only available shop before we got on the train.
• 54:42
  So I saw that, took my shop, tried it.
• 54:46
  It is very The bread feels nice. So for those that are on
• 54:50
  YouTube, this is what it actually looks like.
• 54:52
  It looks good. It does look good.
• 54:54
  It smells good. Yeah, it's legit.
• 54:55
  Strawberries cream in what looks like normal bread.
• 54:58
  Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to like skew your opinion.
• 55:02
  And you just talk while I do this because it's really awkward
• 55:04
  when we eat. And those people have the ASMR
• 55:07
  people want it. There's no ASMR and I wish I
• 55:08
  see, I wish you hadn't done that again.
• 55:11
  For those that are watching on YouTube, you've just witnessed
• 55:13
  me put the sandwich in my mouth and then tried to keep talking.
• 55:15
  So I took it out. I'm going to confidently now
• 55:18
  actually eat it. OK, but there's like there's
• 55:21
  nothing in that sandwich which is like that could be bad Cream
• 55:27
  is good bread. We like bread, do.
• 55:30
  You want the other corner he has.
• 55:33
  I will. I must say it.
• 55:34
  Isn't it? Yeah, it's heavy, it's annoying.
• 55:36
  It has only. 1/2 like who's got the other half of my sandwich?
• 55:39
  I think about that quite a lot. But no, that's good.
• 55:42
  Like there's nothing bad in there.
• 55:44
  I don't think it necessarily needed to be made.
• 55:47
  No. I don't think the world needed
• 55:48
  it, but like they nailed it around Wimbledon because
• 55:52
  obviously Wimbledon is strawberries and cream and
• 55:54
  they've absolutely smashed it. I'm going to put it in there.
• 55:55
  I'm going to eat it. Later.
• 55:57
  But it's like, how else does anything get made if, if no one
• 56:00
  takes the steps to go look, we're going to make a sweet
• 56:02
  sandwich? I'll tell you what doesn't need
• 56:04
  to be made. Fucking birthday cake flavour
• 56:06
  sandwich. Fuck off, Tesco.
• 56:08
  I really want to try it. Yeah, I mean, we will try and
• 56:10
  get one here if the general public can wise up and realize
• 56:14
  that it's an awful decision to buy one or if someone wants to
• 56:18
  send one to us. Didn't weren't M&S getting in
• 56:20
  trouble something around the tax because they were trying to sell
• 56:24
  it as a sandwich? But actually the sugar content
• 56:26
  means it's a dessert and you pay more tax.
• 56:28
  It's like the whole Jaffa Cake thing again.
• 56:29
  Oh, do they? Is that well?
• 56:31
  No, no sticky point. Was it a cake?
• 56:33
  Is it? A yeah, yeah, that was huge.
• 56:34
  Oh right, that went to Wow. This is such a spin off.
• 56:38
  But I mean we do this and people seem to enjoy it, so we're going
• 56:40
  to do it. Jaffa Cake had to go to court
• 56:43
  over the fact that whether or not they were a biscuit or a
• 56:46
  cake because biscuits have higher tax on them than cakes.
• 56:50
  That's that's confuses me. It's.
• 56:53
  Auk thing but the way that they. So it's fine, yeah, just accept
• 56:57
  it. The way that they proved it was,
• 57:00
  they left the Jaffa Cake out and it went stale.
• 57:03
  But if you left a biscuit. And it went hard, OK, which is
• 57:06
  what happens when cakes go stale.
• 57:08
  But if you get the biscuits soggy.
• 57:09
  Interesting. Oh, soft yes.
• 57:13
  No, no. No.
• 57:14
  We will stop there. But yeah, so they they proved
• 57:17
  that they were a cake, not a biscuit, and therefore they're
• 57:19
  allowed to have the cake level of tax.
• 57:21
  However, M&S has had to do the same thing with their sandwich
• 57:24
  over that. I believe they've actually won
• 57:26
  and it is a sandwich because it is something between two bits of
• 57:30
  bread and that was the argument was there was cake, but it is
• 57:32
  actually bread and I can confirm that now it is.
• 57:34
  It's more bread than it is anything else.
• 57:36
  I I don't want to go into the nuances.
• 57:38
  I was going to talk about some pastry, some bit of cake,
• 57:41
  whatever. Everyone knows we hate pastry.
• 57:43
  Yeah, we won't go down that rabbit hole again.
• 57:45
  Well, I mean, we are now at a point where I am going to be
• 57:50
  made to look like an idiot, yes. So it's your turn to do the
• 57:54
  rocks quiz or or Game I'm. Still, it's it's a quiz and a
• 58:00
  game. It's a game to make me look like
• 58:03
  I don't know what to talk. About that's not the reason why
• 58:05
  I did it, but it's I think it's quite difficult.
• 58:08
  I'm still basking the glory of my Spanish knowledge.
• 58:10
  Yeah, you don't actually very, very well on that.
• 58:12
  Yeah, that was that was my best quiz to date.
• 58:15
  Yeah, and we didn't even do like much in the way of flags, which
• 58:19
  you were claiming is your biggest strong point.
• 58:21
  Got it. OK, now maybe we'll.
• 58:23
  Be on that for next time. OK?
• 58:24
  Whilst we're eating us ice, what's it ice cream size?
• 58:28
  Which love Ice Cream Sandwich? Maxibon If if anyone at Maxibon
• 58:33
  wants to sponsor this podcast, we will just eat them non-stop
• 58:35
  for the entire time that we talk.
• 58:37
  Yeah, we won't even talk. We'll just, we'll just eat.
• 58:40
  All right, so the game slash quiz, you have to guess the
• 58:44
  sports person based off the facts that I give you at.
• 58:50
  Least I'm really good with names.
• 58:53
  Now, some of the names and the sports people are harder than
• 58:58
  others, but as a result of added in more information within that,
• 59:03
  I appreciate it. If you're really struggling
• 59:05
  after the five clues essentially that I'm going to give you, I'll
• 59:09
  give you another clue which might make it more obvious.
• 59:12
  OK, cool. So we're going to start with the
• 59:15
  easiest one, I think of the lot, maybe join easiest.
• 59:18
  So I'm going to give you a couple of facts.
• 59:21
  And the idea is to kind of guess the sports person in as few
• 59:25
  facts as yeah, yeah, you get that right.
• 59:27
  I got it. So this first person he has won
• 59:31
  2F1 World Championships in 2005 and 2006 is your first clue?
• 59:40
  2000 and five 2006 what a lot of 10 getting into Fernando Alonso.
• 59:49
  He's got it. First one I knew.
• 59:51
  OK. Give him a give him a good one
• 59:53
  early on. Yeah.
• 59:54
  Good. All right, Well done getting my
• 59:55
  confidence out. Yeah, I'm impressed.
• 59:56
  Smash it to pieces. Let's go.
• 59:59
  OK #2 she has an OBE and is a former competitive British
• 1:00:06
  swimmer who specialized in freestyle.
• 1:00:09
  Is your first fact. Oh God.
• 1:00:14
  I don't think this game is conducive to being concise
• 1:00:18
  either. No.
• 1:00:19
  I'm hoping you're playing along at home.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah, if you playing along at home, if you know this, you will
• 1:00:24
  know this straight away. And I think I have the person's
• 1:00:27
  face. Yeah, again, it's the name
• 1:00:29
  that's going to let me down. That's fine.
• 1:00:30
  Would you want your second one? Yeah, I'll take my second. 1 So
• 1:00:33
  she won two gold medals for Team GB in the 2008 Summer Olympics
• 1:00:38
  in the 400 and 800 free. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know who
• 1:00:42
  this is, but I just don't know her name.
• 1:00:44
  As we go through the facts. The name maybe OK.
• 1:00:49
  So then at the 2012 London Olympics she won two more
• 1:00:53
  medals. This time she won bronze in the
• 1:00:56
  same 2 events, so the 400 and 800 free.
• 1:01:01
  Just like, just so that I think I'm going down the right route.
• 1:01:04
  Do you know what she looks like? Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah. Is she blonde?
• 1:01:06
  Yeah. Is she quite tall?
• 1:01:08
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  I think I know who this is but I've completely forgotten her
• 1:01:10
  name. What's really annoying is I know
• 1:01:16
  someone that was AGB swimmer most recent Olympic Games and I
• 1:01:19
  can't get her name out of my head.
• 1:01:21
  That was Abby Wood, but I know it's not her.
• 1:01:25
  Because after her retirement in 2013, she began working as a
• 1:01:29
  swimming pundit with the BBC alongside Marc Foster, most
• 1:01:34
  recently working at the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris.
• 1:01:39
  Again, I've got, you know what I'm like with this?
• 1:01:41
  I've got like letters or something in my head and like
• 1:01:44
  for some reason Sophie is in my head, but it's not.
• 1:01:50
  This is the thing. This sucks because I'm not going
• 1:01:52
  to get the answer, but like I've I know you know.
• 1:01:55
  So I'll give you the final clue. Her most distinguished career
• 1:01:59
  moment, basically, that was self-proclaimed by me.
• 1:02:05
  It was her appearance on Celebrity MasterChef in 2017.
• 1:02:08
  I didn't even know she'd done that.
• 1:02:11
  Me neither until I started. With can I ask for one more clue
• 1:02:14
  and I want to know. I want to request what the clue
• 1:02:18
  is. OK, of course.
• 1:02:19
  Can you give me the initials RA Rebecca Addlington HE.
• 1:02:24
  Smashed it. Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah, I knew you knew. Yeah, that's so annoying.
• 1:02:27
  I need to be so much better with names.
• 1:02:29
  I don't know what I didn't think.
• 1:02:30
  I well, you knew, yeah. You knew who it was.
• 1:02:32
  You know the face was Yeah. OK #3 then so essentially you've
• 1:02:37
  gone 2 for two. With a little but like.
• 1:02:40
  You knew. It there'll be people listening
• 1:02:42
  to this going, that doesn't count.
• 1:02:46
  Yeah, I'm feeling in a good mood.
• 1:02:47
  I'm being too nice, all right. He's currently ranked as the
• 1:02:51
  Male world #5 Singles Tennis player I.
• 1:02:55
  Was so happy you weren't going to say tennis.
• 1:02:56
  But has previously been one higher fourth ranking in the
• 1:03:00
  world. I think he dropped rankings
• 1:03:02
  maybe last month he went from 4th to 5th but someone needs to
• 1:03:07
  Fact Check that. Has he been higher than four
• 1:03:09
  before his four the highest? Is his highest, yeah.
• 1:03:14
  Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear. I need another clay.
• 1:03:18
  He's British and 23 years old. You're also when you you might
• 1:03:27
  not have the name in your head, but when you hear the name,
• 1:03:30
  you're going to be like, wow. Yeah, I know.
• 1:03:35
  Again, there's names that there's like the first names
• 1:03:38
  that are coming into my head, but I don't think any of them
• 1:03:39
  are right. Do you think any of the other
• 1:03:42
  clues that you're going to give me is going to help me on that?
• 1:03:46
  He got knocked out in the second round in Wimbledon this year.
• 1:03:50
  No, that hasn't helped. No, it's again just confirming
• 1:03:53
  who I think you're talking. About last year he reached the
• 1:03:56
  semi finals of the US Open which I think is his other than
• 1:04:00
  winning on the ATP he's. The best he's done.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah. OK, I've got three names that
• 1:04:05
  are in my head and I don't think any of them are right.
• 1:04:08
  So first one is Oliver obviously wrong?
• 1:04:14
  Yeah, obviously I had no. And then I've got a Ben.
• 1:04:18
  See, I mean, they're good guesses with also Archie.
• 1:04:21
  Archie. Yeah, I don't think.
• 1:04:22
  No, no. Do you want the initials?
• 1:04:25
  Give me the initials. JD.
• 1:04:33
  No. Do you want the total prize
• 1:04:35
  money he's won, having won three ATP tours anyway?
• 1:04:39
  8,193,771 lbs. Yeah, actually no U.S. dollars.
• 1:04:44
  Doing well, Yeah. Who is he?
• 1:04:47
  Jack Draper. I was obviously going to go Jax.
• 1:04:50
  Like what other? Names were there.
• 1:04:52
  I mean, they could. Have been John, but like.
• 1:04:54
  You went through the classics, but yeah, no, you went Archie
• 1:04:57
  over Jack. Yeah, I know.
• 1:04:59
  Come on. All right, so you're still
• 1:05:01
  doing. I'm alright.
• 1:05:02
  You're doing more. That was a bit, that was a bit
• 1:05:04
  upsetting. All right, this one, This one's
• 1:05:05
  a shoo in. This was the the other easiest
• 1:05:07
  classic term. Yeah, shoo in.
• 1:05:10
  He's a British distance runner and his active years were
• 1:05:14
  between 1996 and 2023. And 202319962023, that's quite a
• 1:05:24
  long time. I think based off that you can
• 1:05:29
  probably get it. Male distance runner.
• 1:05:34
  British. British.
• 1:05:36
  I feel like I should be able to get that.
• 1:05:39
  I'm just trying to. I can't really put a face.
• 1:05:43
  Oh, 1996 feels way too early. But how old would he have been?
• 1:05:49
  Like, really young, competitively.
• 1:05:51
  Is it Mo Farah? Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Very good. Thank God.
• 1:05:54
  Because if it was, yeah. No idea.
• 1:05:57
  I want to, I want to read the facts anyway because they're
• 1:06:00
  just silly. Do you want to have a guess at
• 1:06:02
  his 10 KPB on the road? It's the British national
• 1:06:05
  record. Oh, is it something like 2654 or
• 1:06:09
  2730 something? At least 2744, yeah, Yeah,
• 1:06:13
  that's good guesses. All right then his his mile PV
• 1:06:18
  that's got to be quick. Does he I?
• 1:06:21
  Reckon he hasn't broken? I reckon he hasn't.
• 1:06:22
  Broken 4 No, he has. He has.
• 1:06:24
  Come on. Give the guy banks with goat.
• 1:06:26
  Give him some credit. 355.8. That was good. 57.992 yeah
• 1:06:35
  that's fucking 4 Olympic golds and this is my favorite 1.
• 1:06:38
  I don't know why, but he's won the Great North Run every year
• 1:06:43
  between 2014 and 2019. Jesus, yeah, he can't stop.
• 1:06:49
  He has to keep going. Yeah, and I think he still has.
• 1:06:53
  The. British marathon record or was
• 1:06:56
  that broken by I? Think that was broken this year
• 1:06:58
  by Alex Yee? Was it Alex Yee?
• 1:07:00
  No. What's?
• 1:07:01
  He called. He did 210, didn't he?
• 1:07:02
  Is. That the British record, no.
• 1:07:07
  Yes, I don't know what time he did there.
• 1:07:09
  I'm, I'm he's, I think he's a two hour 7 runner.
• 1:07:12
  Damn, that's crazy. Which is actually, by the way,
• 1:07:15
  Fact Check that I heard Alex Yee had the target of two O 7 in his
• 1:07:19
  first ever marathon at London. Incredible.
• 1:07:22
  And he's so he's he's pissed that he did 2 hours 10.
• 1:07:25
  He's a triathlete. When I was looking for people to
• 1:07:28
  choose for the quiz I was I was researching Elliot Kipchogi and
• 1:07:34
  obviously the video of him breaking 2IN Vienna comes up and
• 1:07:38
  obviously I'm a comment troll as well.
• 1:07:40
  So I was looking through the comments and someone had written
• 1:07:43
  it was like the top comment said.
• 1:07:45
  I wondered why they weren't sprinting sooner because like
• 1:07:49
  for the last however long they like the commentator famously
• 1:07:53
  says oh they're racing now like the gloves are off and they
• 1:07:55
  start really going and every time I watch I get goosebumps.
• 1:07:59
  But it's like the reason why they weren't sprinting before is
• 1:08:02
  because their top end pace is basically sprinting pace they
• 1:08:06
  got they're running sub three of they're sprinting.
• 1:08:09
  Yeah. Why aren't they sprinting?
• 1:08:10
  They're already sprinting. They're sprinted from the the
• 1:08:12
  word go. They're just lucky enough to
• 1:08:14
  have another gear, yeah. Oh, that's so incredible.
• 1:08:17
  OK, last one, last one, last one, right.
• 1:08:20
  She's American and 28 years old. OK.
• 1:08:27
  You want more I'm. Trying to think she's like
• 1:08:31
  famous. Sports so iconic.
• 1:08:34
  Oh, does she do gymnastics? I shouldn't have said that.
• 1:08:39
  No, I was, I mean, I was trying to think of people that are that
• 1:08:41
  age anyway, because I the immediate thought that I had was
• 1:08:45
  like Livi Dunn, who's actually just a cheerleader.
• 1:08:49
  She's just very well known their social presence.
• 1:08:53
  What's even funnier about this is her boyfriend or husband is
• 1:09:00
  annoyed by how well she's respected over him.
• 1:09:04
  Do you know his name for a bonus point and what team he plays for
• 1:09:10
  He. Plays for the Green Bay Packers.
• 1:09:11
  He's an NFL cornerback. I'm pretty sure you got both of
• 1:09:15
  those facts wrong. Really.
• 1:09:17
  I think he's a safety for Chicago.
• 1:09:20
  I traded recently. I think he might have been.
• 1:09:22
  Traded. He was definitely out of Green
• 1:09:24
  Bay and well, I say definitely that was a bit of a risk.
• 1:09:27
  I'm pretty sure he's a Green Bay.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah, he's a Packer and he plays cornerback.
• 1:09:31
  What's her name? Yeah, that sounds about right.
• 1:09:42
  I'll go through more effects. Give out, give me more stats
• 1:09:44
  when everyone else maintained well.
• 1:09:45
  I think she's. Got Olympic gold medals through
• 1:09:49
  her ears, but she's got 11 total Olympic gold.
• 1:09:52
  No 11 Olympic medals of different colours.
• 1:09:58
  I think the majority of them are probably gold medals.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, but she has 30 World Championships.
• 1:10:03
  In my. Word When you go on Wikipedia.
• 1:10:06
  Yeah, because obviously where would you get any of your
• 1:10:09
  knowledge from or any of your effects from?
• 1:10:10
  You Scroll down the medals better.
• 1:10:12
  It's just like gold, gold, gold, gold, gold, gold.
• 1:10:14
  It's so sad. She's 4 foot 8.
• 1:10:20
  She's. Tiny.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah, my height. Oh no, why is this happening to
• 1:10:26
  me again like it does every episode?
• 1:10:29
  Her husband is called Jonathan Owens.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah. I don't know if she's taken his
• 1:10:35
  surname. She won't.
• 1:10:37
  He should take her. Yeah, I was going to say yeah.
• 1:10:40
  She's too successful for that. Simone Biles smashed it, Yes,
• 1:10:45
  well done. That came out of nowhere as
• 1:10:47
  well. Yeah, that was very good, I
• 1:10:48
  think. Yeah.
• 1:10:48
  I mean if it's not an easy one to an easy game to do well.
• 1:10:52
  Absolutely not. I was impressed with the
• 1:10:54
  Fernando. Alonso It was a good, good
• 1:10:55
  question. Yeah, Fernando Alonso was a bit
• 1:10:56
  of a rogue one. I was very close to doing Kimi
• 1:11:00
  Raikkonen, but it was the fact that you said 2 because Kimi
• 1:11:02
  Raikkonen won one around the same time.
• 1:11:05
  But yeah. My last, my last fact for
• 1:11:07
  Fernando was the championship car he won in was blue and
• 1:11:11
  yellow and I think he got that straight.
• 1:11:13
  Away, Yeah, yeah, also I think I know that Formula One cars are
• 1:11:18
  fast now, but I think that car might be the quickest car if you
• 1:11:23
  put them all against each other because it was the V12 and it
• 1:11:26
  was. The glory days, that's kind of
• 1:11:28
  like my my earliest memories of watching F1.
• 1:11:31
  I had a a blue and yellow Renault hat that I got when I
• 1:11:35
  was in Spain. From where he's from, but I
• 1:11:38
  remember watching F1, like sat in my dad's lap when I was tiny.
• 1:11:41
  But that was like the first season where I'm like, OK, I get
• 1:11:44
  it now and Fernando Alonso has to go and he's still driving.
• 1:11:47
  Now he's like 44. Also a massive a bit.
• 1:11:50
  This is going to seem like a massive jump because we
• 1:11:52
  mentioned him in that quiz bit. Alex Yee reappeared on the
• 1:11:57
  triathlon scene. Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  Recently. Yeah.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah, I watched it on YouTube. Yeah.
• 1:12:01
  I was going to. Say right, Not only did he.
• 1:12:03
  Watch that video. Yeah.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah, go watch him. Go watch him.
• 1:12:05
  Sorry for spoiling it. He won, everyone crosses the
• 1:12:09
  line and collapses on the floor with their hearts coming out of
• 1:12:12
  their chest and then they get helped up by him who just went
• 1:12:17
  and got a bottle of water, said cheers guys and literally
• 1:12:20
  started picking people up off the floor behind him.
• 1:12:22
  It was outrageous how fast they were running.
• 1:12:25
  He's like, he's such an unassuming presence as well.
• 1:12:28
  Like, he's just so amazing and like his performance at the
• 1:12:32
  Paris Olympics as well against Hayden Wilde, the New Zealand
• 1:12:35
  guy who I'm also a massive fan of.
• 1:12:37
  Like if you follow Super League triathlon or just the general
• 1:12:40
  world triathlon, Hayden Wilde's a cool guy.
• 1:12:43
  And Alex E was just playing with him the whole time on that race,
• 1:12:46
  like pretending he was tired and then just like smoked him at the
• 1:12:49
  end. Sad.
• 1:12:50
  I I also want to bring in something that I think we should
• 1:12:53
  leave for the audience to think about and come back to.
• 1:12:56
  Maybe we'll put this into a reel.
• 1:12:59
  You proposed a potential question of who do you think
• 1:13:03
  would win and it's been on my mind and I want to slightly
• 1:13:07
  adjust your question. Something I want to.
• 1:13:09
  Slightly eject it so do you want to ask the question and I'll
• 1:13:12
  give you the adjustment and I want you to think about it and
• 1:13:14
  maybe we'll discuss it next episode, but I want people to so
• 1:13:16
  I actually. I can't take credit for this
• 1:13:17
  question. I was out riding my bike the
• 1:13:19
  other morning and one of the people I was riding with asked
• 1:13:22
  me and we were sat around discussing it over coffee.
• 1:13:25
  Who wins an Iron Man? It's an Iron Man triathlon.
• 1:13:29
  Michael Phelps goes head to But who wins in An Iron Man out
• 1:13:52
  of those 3 and I? Immediately said, well, I think
• 1:13:55
  Teddy Picacho wins just purely on the percentage time of an
• 1:13:58
  Iron Man is spent on the bike gives him the best time to be
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  able to build an advantage. And like you then said, he's
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  obviously not going to be as fast at running.
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  But like so much of the bike aerobic stuff and the the
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  muscles are being as well, mechanics is very going to be
• 1:14:11
  he's going to be lost to the cyclists.
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  As a good runners so I have. No idea how much how how good he
• 1:14:15
  is at running but I can't imagine he's bad but he's a lot
• 1:14:18
  better than me. So.
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  I want to change your question to being who wins an Iron Man
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  70.3. OK.
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  So it's half the distances which gives him half the chance
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  because now we are also talking about with their ability, their
• 1:14:38
  ability to step up the pace as it's shorter and I don't know
• 1:14:42
  who wins across that. Interesting because when you
• 1:14:46
  look at someone like Kip Chogi, obviously his half time is still
• 1:14:50
  like baffling, but comparatively his marathon time.
• 1:14:56
  I might be outspoken to his. His marathon time is probably
• 1:15:01
  relatively better, possibly better longer.
• 1:15:05
  It sounds like a stupid thing to say, but the half marathon is
• 1:15:07
  probably too short for him. Yeah, but I but I'm saying the
• 1:15:11
  same about Pogachar is better probably over a longer distance
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  than he is that shorter distance.
• 1:15:17
  But it's like it's still not. But then also, Michael felt this
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  is definitely going to be better over that shorter distance than
• 1:15:23
  the four and a half K because, like, he'd would never swim.
• 1:15:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:26
  So you're bringing? Michael felt this more.
• 1:15:27
  Into it, but like he's he's still better at that distance,
• 1:15:30
  but it's still worlds apart. Like there's no doubt he wins
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  the swim. Like, no, there's no doubt.
• 1:15:35
  Look, we're teeing the conversation up for that.
• 1:15:38
  We've started it off that's. The whole episode that could.
• 1:15:41
  Be a whole episode in itself. If you want us to try and talk
• 1:15:42
  about that, we'll go away. We'll bring some science back.
• 1:15:45
  We'll argue. I just want to see it.
• 1:15:47
  But let us know what you think in the comments on YouTube or on
• 1:15:50
  any of the social media posts. We'd love to know your thoughts
• 1:15:53
  and why that's important because we're going to challenge you.
• 1:15:56
  We might bring some of those coins in the next episode.
• 1:15:58
  So that kind of wraps us up for this episode.
• 1:16:01
  Any final thoughts and feelings? I don't think so.
• 1:16:04
  I'm looking forward for my birthday cake sandwich next
• 1:16:06
  episode. Yeah, if we can, if we can find
• 1:16:09
  one, yes, it actually is a business offence.
• 1:16:11
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