Latest / Women in The Coaching Arena / 86 | How Levanah Went From Zero to 15 Clients in 6 Months
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- 0:00Hello
- 0:01and
- 0:01welcome
- 0:01to
- 0:02women
- 0:02in
- 0:02the
- 0:02Coaching
- 0:02arena
- 0:03podcast.
- 0:04I'm
- 0:04so
- 0:04glad
- 0:04you're
- 0:05here.
- 0:06I'm
- 0:06Jo
- 0:06Lot,
- 0:07a
- 0:07business
- 0:07mentor
- 0:08and
- 0:08ICF
- 0:08accredited
- 0:09coach,
- 0:10and
- 0:10I
- 0:10help
- 0:11coaches
- 0:11to
- 0:11build
- 0:12brilliant
- 0:12businesses.
- 0:14I
- 0:14know
- 0:15that
- 0:15when
- 0:15you
- 0:15prepare
- 0:16to
- 0:16enter
- 0:16the
- 0:17arena,
- 0:17there
- 0:17is
- 0:18fear,
- 0:18self
- 0:18doubt,
- 0:19comparison,
- 0:20anxiety,
- 0:21uncertainty.
- 0:23You
- 0:23can
- 0:23tend
- 0:24to
- 0:24armour
- 0:24up
- 0:25and
- 0:25protect
- 0:26yourself
- 0:26from
- 0:27vulnerability.
- 0:28In
- 0:29this
- 0:29podcast,
- 0:30I'll
- 0:30be
- 0:30sharing
- 0:30honest,
- 0:31not
- 0:31hype,
- 0:31practical
- 0:32and
- 0:32emotional
- 0:33tools
- 0:33to
- 0:34support
- 0:34you
- 0:34to
- 0:34make
- 0:35the
- 0:35difference
- 0:35that
- 0:35you're
- 0:36here
- 0:36for.
- 0:36Dare
- 0:37greatly.
- 0:38You
- 0:38belong
- 0:39in
- 0:39this
- 0:39arena.
- 0:40Hello.
- 0:41Welcome
- 0:41to
- 0:41the
- 0:42women
- 0:42in
- 0:42the
- 0:42Coaching
- 0:42arena
- 0:43podcast.
- 0:43I
- 0:43am
- 0:44so
- 0:44glad
- 0:44you
- 0:44are
- 0:44here
- 0:45today.
- 0:46I'm
- 0:46excited
- 0:46to
- 0:47have
- 0:47a
- 0:47client
- 0:47of
- 0:48mine,
- 0:48Lavana
- 0:49Gates,
- 0:49share
- 0:50her
- 0:50story
- 0:50of
- 0:51building
- 0:51her
- 0:51business.
- 0:52She
- 0:53has
- 0:53been
- 0:53super
- 0:54inspiring
- 0:55to
- 0:55watch
- 0:55because
- 0:56she
- 0:57has
- 0:57been
- 0:58all
- 0:58in.
- 0:59I
- 0:59don't
- 0:59think
- 0:59I've
- 1:00ever
- 1:00had
- 1:00a
- 1:00client
- 1:01who
- 1:01has
- 1:02contacted
- 1:02me
- 1:03as
- 1:03much
- 1:03as
- 1:03Levana,
- 1:04and
- 1:04I
- 1:04say
- 1:04that
- 1:04in
- 1:05a
- 1:05really
- 1:06positive
- 1:06way
- 1:07because
- 1:08I
- 1:08do
- 1:08think
- 1:08in
- 1:08the
- 1:09early
- 1:09days
- 1:09of
- 1:09building
- 1:10your
- 1:10business,
- 1:10you
- 1:11really
- 1:11do
- 1:12need
- 1:12that
- 1:12clarity
- 1:12and
- 1:13that
- 1:13guidance.
- 1:14You
- 1:15need
- 1:15to
- 1:16ask
- 1:16for
- 1:16help.
- 1:17And
- 1:18so
- 1:18despite
- 1:19the
- 1:19fact
- 1:19now
- 1:19she
- 1:20is
- 1:20absolutely
- 1:21flying
- 1:21and
- 1:21she
- 1:22definitely
- 1:22doesn't
- 1:23ask
- 1:23for
- 1:23help
- 1:23as
- 1:24often
- 1:24as
- 1:24she
- 1:24used
- 1:24to,
- 1:25she
- 1:25really
- 1:26did
- 1:26make
- 1:26use
- 1:27of
- 1:27the
- 1:27program
- 1:28and
- 1:28all
- 1:28of
- 1:28the
- 1:29support
- 1:29that
- 1:29my
- 1:29business
- 1:29of
- 1:30coaching
- 1:30program
- 1:31offers.
- 1:31So
- 1:32excited
- 1:32to
- 1:33share
- 1:33the
- 1:33case
- 1:33study
- 1:34conversation
- 1:34with
- 1:34Lavana
- 1:35here
- 1:35with
- 1:35you
- 1:35now.
- 1:37Hi
- 1:37Nirvana,
- 1:38thank
- 1:38you
- 1:38so
- 1:39much
- 1:39for
- 1:39agreeing
- 1:39to
- 1:39reflect
- 1:40on
- 1:40your
- 1:40journey
- 1:41with
- 1:41me.
- 1:41I'm
- 1:42so
- 1:42excited
- 1:43for
- 1:43this
- 1:43call.
- 1:43Please
- 1:44do
- 1:44share
- 1:45a
- 1:45bit
- 1:45about
- 1:45you.
- 1:46Okay,
- 1:47yes.
- 1:47So
- 1:48when
- 1:48I
- 1:48joined
- 1:49the
- 1:49business
- 1:49of
- 1:50coaching,
- 1:50I
- 1:50think
- 1:50it
- 1:51was
- 1:51February,
- 1:52I
- 1:52was
- 1:53a
- 1:53newly
- 1:53qualified
- 1:54coach.
- 1:55I'd
- 1:56finished
- 1:56my
- 1:56training
- 1:57in
- 1:57the
- 1:57December
- 1:58and
- 1:59had
- 2:00kind
- 2:00of
- 2:00decided
- 2:00I
- 2:00was
- 2:00really
- 2:01going
- 2:01to
- 2:01go
- 2:01for
- 2:01it
- 2:01from
- 2:02the
- 2:02January.
- 2:03At
- 2:03that
- 2:03stage,
- 2:04I
- 2:04thought
- 2:05I
- 2:05had
- 2:05a
- 2:05niche,
- 2:05but
- 2:06I
- 2:06wasn't
- 2:06that
- 2:07confident
- 2:07in
- 2:07it.
- 2:07My
- 2:08background
- 2:08was
- 2:08in
- 2:09fashion
- 2:09buying,
- 2:09so
- 2:10I'd
- 2:10been
- 2:10in
- 2:10retail
- 2:1015
- 2:11years
- 2:12and
- 2:12then
- 2:12I'd
- 2:12left
- 2:12that
- 2:13a
- 2:13couple
- 2:13of
- 2:13years
- 2:13ago
- 2:13and
- 2:13wanted
- 2:14to
- 2:14retrain
- 2:14and
- 2:14do
- 2:15something
- 2:15different
- 2:15that
- 2:16fitted
- 2:16into
- 2:17my
- 2:17life
- 2:18as
- 2:18a
- 2:18mum.
- 2:18And
- 2:18that
- 2:18felt
- 2:19as
- 2:19though
- 2:19it
- 2:19was
- 2:19giving
- 2:19back
- 2:20a
- 2:20bit
- 2:20more.
- 2:21And
- 2:21I'd
- 2:21always
- 2:21been
- 2:22really
- 2:22interested
- 2:22in
- 2:22coaching
- 2:23and
- 2:24kind
- 2:24of
- 2:24finally
- 2:24got
- 2:25the
- 2:25confidence
- 2:25up
- 2:25to
- 2:25go
- 2:26and
- 2:26retrain.
- 2:26So
- 2:27emerged
- 2:27into
- 2:28January
- 2:292024
- 2:29with
- 2:29a
- 2:29vague
- 2:30idea
- 2:30of
- 2:31what
- 2:31I
- 2:31wanted
- 2:31to
- 2:31do.
- 2:32But
- 2:32when
- 2:33you're
- 2:33doing
- 2:33that
- 2:33training,
- 2:34no
- 2:34one's
- 2:34teaching
- 2:34you
- 2:34how
- 2:35to
- 2:35actually
- 2:35run
- 2:36a
- 2:36business.
- 2:37I
- 2:37signed
- 2:37up
- 2:37for
- 2:37your
- 2:38program.
- 2:38That's
- 2:38a
- 2:38little
- 2:38bit
- 2:38of
- 2:39a
- 2:39background.
- 2:40Love
- 2:40it.
- 2:41And
- 2:41can
- 2:41you
- 2:41remember
- 2:42the
- 2:42sorts
- 2:43of
- 2:43things
- 2:43you
- 2:43were
- 2:43doing
- 2:44and
- 2:45how
- 2:45you
- 2:45were
- 2:45feeling
- 2:46prior
- 2:46to
- 2:47joining?
- 2:48Was
- 2:48there
- 2:48like
- 2:48frustration?
- 2:49Were
- 2:49you
- 2:49doing
- 2:49any
- 2:49marketing,
- 2:50like
- 2:50what
- 2:50was
- 2:50going
- 2:50on
- 2:51in
- 2:51practical
- 2:51terms?
- 2:53I
- 2:53was
- 2:53always
- 2:53very
- 2:54busy
- 2:54and
- 2:55it
- 2:55was
- 2:55all
- 2:55very
- 2:56new.
- 2:57What
- 2:57would
- 2:57have
- 2:57been
- 2:57the
- 2:57biggest
- 2:58challenge?
- 2:58I
- 2:58think
- 2:59probably
- 2:59just
- 3:00the
- 3:00identity
- 3:01of
- 3:01being
- 3:01a
- 3:02brand
- 3:02new
- 3:02coach.
- 3:02I
- 3:03didn't
- 3:03have
- 3:03any
- 3:03clients
- 3:04at
- 3:04that
- 3:04stage.
- 3:04Essentially
- 3:05I'd
- 3:05set
- 3:05up
- 3:05an
- 3:05Instagram
- 3:06account.
- 3:06I
- 3:06don't
- 3:06think
- 3:07I'd
- 3:07even
- 3:07announce
- 3:07what
- 3:07I
- 3:08was
- 3:08doing
- 3:08to
- 3:08my
- 3:08network
- 3:09on
- 3:09LinkedIn
- 3:09at
- 3:10that
- 3:10stage.
- 3:11Yeah.
- 3:11And
- 3:11I
- 3:11kind
- 3:11of
- 3:12felt
- 3:12as
- 3:12though
- 3:13I
- 3:13was
- 3:14paying
- 3:15with
- 3:15it
- 3:15to
- 3:15a
- 3:15certain
- 3:16extent.
- 3:16I'd
- 3:17put
- 3:17some
- 3:17kind
- 3:18of
- 3:18accountability
- 3:20pinners
- 3:21in.
- 3:21I
- 3:21knew
- 3:21how
- 3:22many
- 3:22times
- 3:22a
- 3:22week
- 3:22I
- 3:22was
- 3:22going
- 3:23to
- 3:23post,
- 3:23etcetera
- 3:23and
- 3:24I
- 3:24was
- 3:24very
- 3:24much
- 3:24on
- 3:24track.
- 3:25I
- 3:25was
- 3:25being
- 3:25consistent,
- 3:26but
- 3:27I
- 3:27think
- 3:27I
- 3:27had
- 3:28about
- 3:28200
- 3:29followers,
- 3:30probably
- 3:3180
- 3:31of
- 3:32which
- 3:32were
- 3:33friends
- 3:33and
- 3:33family
- 3:34and
- 3:35probably
- 3:3550
- 3:36other
- 3:36coaches
- 3:37where
- 3:37spaz.
- 3:38It
- 3:38was
- 3:38just
- 3:38kind.
- 3:39Where
- 3:39do
- 3:39you
- 3:39even
- 3:39start?
- 3:40I
- 3:40don't
- 3:40even
- 3:41know
- 3:41how
- 3:41to
- 3:41describe
- 3:42what
- 3:42the
- 3:43challenges
- 3:43would
- 3:43have
- 3:43been
- 3:43because
- 3:44I
- 3:44was
- 3:44just
- 3:44so
- 3:44at
- 3:45the
- 3:45start
- 3:45and
- 3:46needed
- 3:46some
- 3:46support
- 3:47from
- 3:47an
- 3:47expert.
- 3:48Oh,
- 3:49love
- 3:49it.
- 3:49And
- 3:49what
- 3:49was
- 3:50most
- 3:50helpful
- 3:50then
- 3:51when
- 3:51you
- 3:51joined
- 3:51the
- 3:51programme?
- 3:53The
- 3:53programme's
- 3:53brilliant
- 3:54because
- 3:55obviously
- 3:55you
- 3:55get
- 3:56framed
- 3:56straight
- 3:56into
- 3:56a
- 3:56community,
- 3:57which
- 3:57I
- 3:57think
- 3:58is
- 3:58crucial.
- 3:59Setting
- 4:00up
- 4:00a
- 4:00business
- 4:00is
- 4:00amazing
- 4:01but
- 4:01it's
- 4:01quite
- 4:01lonely,
- 4:02I
- 4:02think
- 4:03all
- 4:03of
- 4:03a
- 4:03sudden
- 4:03being
- 4:04surrounded
- 4:05by
- 4:06mainly
- 4:06women
- 4:06who
- 4:07were
- 4:07probably
- 4:08a
- 4:08little
- 4:08bit
- 4:08further
- 4:09on
- 4:09than
- 4:09me,
- 4:09a
- 4:09lot
- 4:09of
- 4:10them
- 4:10who
- 4:10I
- 4:11could
- 4:11relate
- 4:11to
- 4:11as
- 4:11well
- 4:12because
- 4:12I
- 4:12think,
- 4:12you
- 4:12know,
- 4:13the
- 4:13coaching
- 4:13world
- 4:13is
- 4:14brilliant
- 4:15but
- 4:15it
- 4:15could
- 4:15be
- 4:15hard
- 4:15to
- 4:15find
- 4:15your
- 4:16tribe
- 4:16within
- 4:16it,
- 4:16I
- 4:17suppose.
- 4:17And
- 4:17people
- 4:18that,
- 4:18you
- 4:18know,
- 4:19seem
- 4:19like
- 4:19real
- 4:19people
- 4:20that
- 4:20had
- 4:21actually
- 4:21made
- 4:21the
- 4:22changes
- 4:22from
- 4:22their
- 4:22careers
- 4:23and
- 4:23were
- 4:23going
- 4:23on
- 4:23to
- 4:23build
- 4:24ethical,
- 4:25sustainable
- 4:25businesses.
- 4:25So
- 4:26that
- 4:26was
- 4:26really
- 4:26nice.
- 4:26I
- 4:26kind
- 4:27of
- 4:27felt
- 4:27less
- 4:27alone
- 4:28and
- 4:28then
- 4:29in
- 4:29terms
- 4:29of
- 4:29the
- 4:29content
- 4:30of
- 4:30the
- 4:31course,
- 4:31its
- 4:31just
- 4:31so
- 4:32easily
- 4:32broken
- 4:33down.
- 4:33The
- 4:33modules
- 4:34are
- 4:34really
- 4:34easy
- 4:34to
- 4:35digest
- 4:35and
- 4:35it
- 4:36really
- 4:36does
- 4:36everything
- 4:37from
- 4:38pinpointing
- 4:38what
- 4:39your
- 4:39niche
- 4:39should
- 4:39be.
- 4:40Although
- 4:40mine
- 4:40did,
- 4:41through
- 4:41to
- 4:41city
- 4:41appeal
- 4:42websites,
- 4:43your
- 4:43email
- 4:43marketing,
- 4:44just
- 4:44so
- 4:45much
- 4:45in
- 4:45there
- 4:45that
- 4:46it
- 4:46takes
- 4:46that
- 4:47pressure
- 4:47off
- 4:47you.
- 4:47Because
- 4:48I
- 4:48think
- 4:49when
- 4:49you're
- 4:49starting
- 4:49your
- 4:50business
- 4:50you
- 4:50feel
- 4:50like
- 4:51you've
- 4:51got
- 4:51this
- 4:51mountain
- 4:51to
- 4:52climb
- 4:52and
- 4:52a
- 4:52list
- 4:53of
- 4:53a
- 4:53thousand
- 4:53things
- 4:53every
- 4:54day.
- 4:54And
- 4:54don't
- 4:54get
- 4:54me
- 4:54wrong,
- 4:55I
- 4:55still
- 4:55do
- 4:55feel
- 4:55like
- 4:55that,
- 4:56but
- 4:56at
- 4:56least
- 4:57it
- 4:57mapped
- 4:57it
- 4:57out
- 4:57for
- 4:57you
- 4:58so
- 4:58you
- 4:58didn't
- 4:58have
- 4:58to
- 4:58think,
- 4:59what
- 4:59on
- 4:59earth
- 4:59am
- 4:59I
- 5:00doing
- 5:00this
- 5:00week?
- 5:00It
- 5:00was
- 5:00kind
- 5:00of
- 5:01just
- 5:01work
- 5:01through
- 5:01it
- 5:02and
- 5:02a
- 5:02few
- 5:03weeks
- 5:03in
- 5:03you
- 5:03started
- 5:03to
- 5:03feel
- 5:03like
- 5:04you
- 5:04were
- 5:04really
- 5:04making
- 5:04progress.
- 5:05So
- 5:06yeah,
- 5:07I
- 5:07don't
- 5:07know
- 5:07if
- 5:07I'm
- 5:07jumping
- 5:08into
- 5:08it
- 5:08too
- 5:08soon,
- 5:09but
- 5:09I
- 5:09can't
- 5:09resist.
- 5:10What
- 5:10was
- 5:10the
- 5:10result
- 5:11for
- 5:11you?
- 5:12The
- 5:12result
- 5:13for
- 5:13me
- 5:13has
- 5:13been
- 5:15way
- 5:15more
- 5:16than
- 5:16I
- 5:16thought
- 5:16it
- 5:16would
- 5:17be
- 5:17at
- 5:17this
- 5:17stage,
- 5:18which
- 5:18is
- 5:19amazing.
- 5:20I
- 5:20think
- 5:20I
- 5:20can
- 5:20say
- 5:21now
- 5:21six
- 5:22months
- 5:22down
- 5:22the
- 5:22line
- 5:23that
- 5:23I
- 5:23have
- 5:23built
- 5:24a
- 5:24business.
- 5:25I'm
- 5:25leaving
- 5:25the
- 5:26program
- 5:26with
- 5:2615
- 5:27one
- 5:27to
- 5:28one
- 5:28self
- 5:29funding
- 5:29client
- 5:29and
- 5:29I
- 5:30started
- 5:30with
- 5:30zero.
- 5:31So
- 5:32yeah,
- 5:32I
- 5:32mean
- 5:33that's
- 5:33been
- 5:33the
- 5:33ultimate
- 5:34result.
- 5:34I
- 5:34have
- 5:34a
- 5:34coaching
- 5:35business
- 5:35now.
- 5:36You
- 5:37do?
- 5:37And
- 5:37I
- 5:37think
- 5:37the
- 5:37most
- 5:38exciting
- 5:38thing
- 5:39is
- 5:39it
- 5:39is
- 5:40consistent
- 5:40and
- 5:41that's
- 5:41why
- 5:41I'm
- 5:41excited
- 5:42that
- 5:42we're
- 5:43having
- 5:43this
- 5:43call
- 5:43now
- 5:44versus
- 5:45early
- 5:45on,
- 5:45which
- 5:46we
- 5:46can
- 5:46talk
- 5:46about
- 5:46in
- 5:46a
- 5:46moment
- 5:47as
- 5:48to
- 5:49gaining
- 5:50one
- 5:51big
- 5:51opportunity
- 5:52and
- 5:52then
- 5:52feeling
- 5:52like
- 5:53that's
- 5:53it.
- 5:53But
- 5:53you've
- 5:54managed
- 5:54to
- 5:55seize
- 5:55the
- 5:55opportunity
- 5:56but
- 5:56also
- 5:56build
- 5:57that
- 5:57consistent
- 5:58client
- 5:58stream.
- 5:59So
- 6:00tell
- 6:00us
- 6:00more
- 6:00about
- 6:01what
- 6:01happened
- 6:02in
- 6:02that
- 6:02journey.
- 6:03I
- 6:03think
- 6:03you're
- 6:03right
- 6:04because
- 6:04I
- 6:04think
- 6:04even
- 6:04if
- 6:05you'd
- 6:05have
- 6:05spoken
- 6:05to
- 6:05me
- 6:06two
- 6:07months
- 6:07ago,
- 6:07I
- 6:07still
- 6:08kind
- 6:08of
- 6:08felt.
- 6:08Yeah,
- 6:09like
- 6:09this
- 6:09slightly
- 6:09unusual
- 6:10situation
- 6:10which
- 6:10we
- 6:10will
- 6:11talk
- 6:11about
- 6:11now
- 6:12quite
- 6:13early
- 6:13on
- 6:13in
- 6:13that
- 6:14journey
- 6:15was
- 6:15almost
- 6:15like
- 6:15a
- 6:15one
- 6:16hit
- 6:16wonder.
- 6:17It
- 6:17took
- 6:17me
- 6:17probably
- 6:18another
- 6:18four
- 6:19months
- 6:19after
- 6:19that
- 6:19happened
- 6:21to
- 6:21start
- 6:21to
- 6:21accept,
- 6:22oh
- 6:22no,
- 6:22actually
- 6:23people
- 6:23are
- 6:23still
- 6:23coming
- 6:24and
- 6:24you
- 6:25know
- 6:25they
- 6:25must
- 6:26be
- 6:26liking
- 6:26what
- 6:26im
- 6:26talking
- 6:27about
- 6:27and
- 6:27it
- 6:28is
- 6:28going
- 6:28to
- 6:28consistently
- 6:28build.
- 6:29But
- 6:29anyway,
- 6:29im
- 6:29kind
- 6:30of
- 6:30getting
- 6:30ahead
- 6:30of
- 6:30myself.
- 6:31So
- 6:32yeah,
- 6:32what
- 6:32happened
- 6:32was
- 6:32I
- 6:33think
- 6:33I
- 6:33joined
- 6:33you
- 6:33in
- 6:34February.
- 6:34Id
- 6:34done
- 6:34maybe
- 6:35four
- 6:35or
- 6:35fives
- 6:36week
- 6:36of
- 6:36the
- 6:36calls
- 6:37and
- 6:37at
- 6:37that
- 6:38stage
- 6:38I
- 6:39wanted
- 6:39to
- 6:39help
- 6:40overwhelm
- 6:40mums
- 6:41who
- 6:41were
- 6:42kind
- 6:42of
- 6:42struggling
- 6:42to
- 6:43balance
- 6:43life
- 6:43and
- 6:44work,
- 6:45which.
- 6:46And
- 6:46actually
- 6:46I
- 6:46still
- 6:47and
- 6:47I've
- 6:47ended
- 6:47up
- 6:48doing
- 6:48that
- 6:48but
- 6:48in
- 6:48a
- 6:48slightly
- 6:49different
- 6:49way.
- 6:50So
- 6:50I
- 6:51was
- 6:51semi
- 6:51competent
- 6:51on
- 6:52that
- 6:52niche
- 6:52but
- 6:52it
- 6:52didn't
- 6:52feel
- 6:53quite
- 6:53specific
- 6:53enough
- 6:54and
- 6:54I
- 6:54wasn't
- 6:54probably,
- 6:55you
- 6:55know,
- 6:55there
- 6:56with
- 6:56any
- 6:56of
- 6:56my
- 6:56marketing
- 6:57around
- 6:57it.
- 6:58However,
- 6:59there
- 6:59was
- 7:00a
- 7:01specific
- 7:02audience
- 7:02that
- 7:02I
- 7:03managed
- 7:03to
- 7:03get
- 7:04a
- 7:04platform
- 7:04on
- 7:05and
- 7:05this
- 7:05audience
- 7:06has
- 7:06a
- 7:07huge
- 7:07following
- 7:08in
- 7:08my
- 7:09old
- 7:09world
- 7:09in
- 7:09retail.
- 7:11But
- 7:11I
- 7:11think
- 7:11where
- 7:12it
- 7:12worked
- 7:12so
- 7:12successfully
- 7:13for
- 7:13me
- 7:13was
- 7:14I'd
- 7:14kind
- 7:14of
- 7:14built
- 7:14a
- 7:15relationship
- 7:15with
- 7:15this
- 7:15person
- 7:16and
- 7:16this
- 7:16is
- 7:16an
- 7:16anonymous
- 7:17person.
- 7:18Feels
- 7:18strange
- 7:18to
- 7:18say
- 7:19I've
- 7:19built
- 7:19a
- 7:19relationship
- 7:19but
- 7:20I
- 7:20kind
- 7:20of
- 7:20always
- 7:21supported
- 7:21them
- 7:21and
- 7:22kind
- 7:23of
- 7:23had
- 7:23little
- 7:23conversations
- 7:24with
- 7:24them
- 7:24prior
- 7:24to
- 7:24me
- 7:25wanting
- 7:25to
- 7:25advertise
- 7:26through
- 7:26them.
- 7:27So
- 7:27what
- 7:28happened
- 7:28there
- 7:28was
- 7:28I'd
- 7:29kind
- 7:29of
- 7:29thought,
- 7:29okay,
- 7:29I
- 7:29could
- 7:30advertise
- 7:30through
- 7:30this
- 7:31platform.
- 7:31Didn't
- 7:31feel
- 7:32quite
- 7:32confident,
- 7:33it
- 7:33felt
- 7:33quite
- 7:33exposing
- 7:34to
- 7:34kind
- 7:34of
- 7:35put
- 7:35my
- 7:35face
- 7:35out
- 7:36there
- 7:36to
- 7:36everyone
- 7:36in
- 7:36my
- 7:37old
- 7:37industry
- 7:37really.
- 7:38But
- 7:39someone
- 7:39had
- 7:40sent
- 7:40in
- 7:40a
- 7:40message
- 7:41to
- 7:41this.
- 7:41It's
- 7:42an
- 7:42instagram
- 7:42account.
- 7:42And
- 7:43someone
- 7:43had
- 7:43written
- 7:43into
- 7:44this
- 7:44individual,
- 7:44I'm
- 7:45assuming
- 7:45her
- 7:46saying
- 7:47something
- 7:47along
- 7:48the
- 7:48lines
- 7:48of,
- 7:48I'm.
- 7:49I've
- 7:49just
- 7:49been
- 7:49made
- 7:50redundant.
- 7:50I'm
- 7:50feeling
- 7:51really
- 7:51stuck
- 7:51and
- 7:52overwhelmed.
- 7:52Do
- 7:52you
- 7:53know
- 7:53of
- 7:53any
- 7:53coaches?
- 7:55Instead
- 7:55of
- 7:55it
- 7:55kind
- 7:55of
- 7:56being
- 7:56a
- 7:56cold
- 7:57add
- 7:58there,
- 7:58I
- 7:58spotted
- 7:59that
- 7:59moment
- 8:00and
- 8:00messaged
- 8:00her
- 8:00and
- 8:00said,
- 8:01I
- 8:01know
- 8:02we've
- 8:02already
- 8:02spoken
- 8:02about
- 8:03this.
- 8:03Do
- 8:03you
- 8:03think
- 8:03now
- 8:04would
- 8:04be
- 8:04a
- 8:04good
- 8:04time
- 8:04to
- 8:04advertise?
- 8:05She
- 8:06came
- 8:06back
- 8:06to
- 8:06me
- 8:06and
- 8:06said,
- 8:07yes,
- 8:07amazing.
- 8:07I
- 8:07think
- 8:08there'll
- 8:08be
- 8:08a
- 8:08really
- 8:08good
- 8:08need
- 8:09for
- 8:09it.
- 8:10This
- 8:10had
- 8:10that
- 8:10out
- 8:11and
- 8:11gained
- 8:12a
- 8:12thousand
- 8:13followers
- 8:13overnight,
- 8:14which
- 8:15was
- 8:15quite
- 8:16overwhelming
- 8:17and
- 8:17obviously
- 8:18amazing,
- 8:18but
- 8:19more
- 8:19overwhelming
- 8:20than
- 8:21that
- 8:21was.
- 8:21And
- 8:22I
- 8:22think
- 8:22these
- 8:22figures
- 8:22are
- 8:23right.
- 8:23I
- 8:23had
- 8:2450
- 8:24people
- 8:24book
- 8:25in
- 8:25for
- 8:25discovery
- 8:26calls
- 8:27within
- 8:27that
- 8:28first
- 8:28kind
- 8:28of
- 8:2848
- 8:29hours.
- 8:30So
- 8:31I
- 8:31was.
- 8:31I
- 8:31found
- 8:31myself
- 8:32booked
- 8:32up
- 8:32with
- 8:32discovery
- 8:33calls
- 8:33for
- 8:33about
- 8:33six
- 8:34weeks.
- 8:34But
- 8:35I
- 8:35had
- 8:35no
- 8:35boundaries
- 8:36in
- 8:36place.
- 8:36I
- 8:37hadn't
- 8:37put
- 8:37a
- 8:37limit
- 8:37on
- 8:37the
- 8:38number
- 8:38of
- 8:38calls
- 8:38that
- 8:38I
- 8:38would
- 8:39take
- 8:39in
- 8:39a
- 8:39day.
- 8:40I
- 8:40hadn't
- 8:41kind
- 8:41of
- 8:41made
- 8:41my
- 8:41messaging
- 8:42clear
- 8:42on
- 8:42the
- 8:42booking
- 8:43forms
- 8:43as
- 8:44to
- 8:44exactly
- 8:44what
- 8:45that
- 8:45call
- 8:45was,
- 8:45because,
- 8:46you
- 8:46know,
- 8:47in
- 8:47retail,
- 8:47the
- 8:47self
- 8:48development
- 8:48and
- 8:48coaching
- 8:49world
- 8:49is
- 8:49not
- 8:49necessarily
- 8:50a
- 8:50big
- 8:50or
- 8:50a
- 8:50known
- 8:51thing.
- 8:51A
- 8:51lot
- 8:52of
- 8:52these
- 8:52individuals
- 8:52probably
- 8:53didn't
- 8:53quite
- 8:53know
- 8:53what
- 8:53to
- 8:53expect.
- 8:54And
- 8:55I
- 8:55think
- 8:55essentially,
- 8:56a
- 8:56lot
- 8:56of
- 8:56them
- 8:56thought,
- 8:56oh,
- 8:56this
- 8:56is
- 8:57lovely.
- 8:57I'm
- 8:57going
- 8:57to
- 8:57get
- 8:57this
- 8:58free
- 8:58hour
- 8:58and
- 8:58get
- 8:58all
- 8:58of
- 8:59this
- 8:59career
- 8:59support,
- 8:59and
- 9:00maybe
- 9:00didn't
- 9:00even
- 9:01realize
- 9:01that
- 9:01ultimately,
- 9:02I
- 9:02was
- 9:02going
- 9:02to
- 9:02talk
- 9:02them
- 9:03through
- 9:03a
- 9:03program
- 9:04which,
- 9:04you
- 9:04know,
- 9:05I
- 9:05was
- 9:05hoping
- 9:05to
- 9:06convert
- 9:06some
- 9:06of
- 9:06these
- 9:06people
- 9:07into.
- 9:07So
- 9:08I
- 9:08had
- 9:08to
- 9:08very
- 9:08quickly
- 9:09refine
- 9:10all
- 9:10of
- 9:10that,
- 9:11but
- 9:11kind
- 9:11of,
- 9:12you
- 9:12know,
- 9:12deliver
- 9:12on
- 9:13what
- 9:13I'd
- 9:13promised.
- 9:14I
- 9:14think
- 9:14in
- 9:14those
- 9:15kind
- 9:15of
- 9:15six
- 9:15weeks,
- 9:16you
- 9:16must
- 9:16have
- 9:16got
- 9:17pretty
- 9:17sick
- 9:17of
- 9:17all
- 9:17of
- 9:17my
- 9:18voice
- 9:18notes
- 9:18where
- 9:18I
- 9:18was
- 9:19just
- 9:19drowning
- 9:20and
- 9:20exhausted
- 9:20and
- 9:21still
- 9:21doing
- 9:22all
- 9:22of
- 9:22this
- 9:22on
- 9:22three
- 9:22days
- 9:23a
- 9:23week
- 9:23because
- 9:23my
- 9:23Nissel
- 9:24girl
- 9:24hadn't
- 9:24started
- 9:24school
- 9:25then
- 9:25I
- 9:26was
- 9:26on
- 9:26a
- 9:26couple
- 9:27of
- 9:27discovery
- 9:27calls
- 9:28every
- 9:28night,
- 9:29and
- 9:30it
- 9:30was
- 9:30a
- 9:30big
- 9:30old
- 9:31process,
- 9:31which
- 9:32was
- 9:32both
- 9:33amazing,
- 9:33but
- 9:33really,
- 9:34really
- 9:34exhausting.
- 9:35I
- 9:35absolutely
- 9:36loved
- 9:36helping
- 9:37you
- 9:37through
- 9:37it,
- 9:37and
- 9:38because
- 9:38when
- 9:38you're
- 9:38in
- 9:39it,
- 9:39you
- 9:39can't
- 9:39see
- 9:39it.
- 9:39I
- 9:40remember
- 9:40the
- 9:40hour
- 9:40long
- 9:41discovery
- 9:41calls
- 9:42and
- 9:42different
- 9:42options
- 9:43we
- 9:43discussed
- 9:43at
- 9:43the
- 9:43time.
- 9:44So
- 9:45tell
- 9:46me
- 9:46now,
- 9:47how
- 9:47have
- 9:48you
- 9:48managed
- 9:48to
- 9:49build
- 9:49that
- 9:49sustainable
- 9:50business
- 9:50without
- 9:51just
- 9:52getting
- 9:52that
- 9:52exponential
- 9:53growth
- 9:53activity
- 9:54that
- 9:54you
- 9:54obviously
- 9:54had
- 9:54at
- 9:55the
- 9:55time?
- 9:56There
- 9:56was
- 9:56a
- 9:56few
- 9:57things
- 9:57in
- 9:57that
- 9:57first
- 9:58kind
- 9:58of
- 9:59wave
- 9:59of
- 9:59interest.
- 10:00You
- 10:00had
- 10:01some
- 10:01really
- 10:01good
- 10:02advice,
- 10:02and
- 10:02you
- 10:02kind
- 10:02of
- 10:02kept
- 10:03coming
- 10:03back
- 10:03and
- 10:03kept
- 10:03coming
- 10:04back
- 10:04and
- 10:04saying,
- 10:05essentially
- 10:05just
- 10:05saying,
- 10:05Levana,
- 10:06simplify
- 10:06it.
- 10:07You
- 10:07can
- 10:07send
- 10:07out
- 10:08this
- 10:08communication
- 10:09and
- 10:09it
- 10:09will
- 10:09simplify
- 10:09it.
- 10:10And
- 10:10I
- 10:10think
- 10:11I
- 10:11was
- 10:11still
- 10:11saying
- 10:12in
- 10:12it
- 10:13that
- 10:13I
- 10:13probably
- 10:14didn't
- 10:14do
- 10:14that
- 10:14for.
- 10:15I
- 10:16could
- 10:16have
- 10:16done
- 10:16it
- 10:16sooner
- 10:17and
- 10:17made
- 10:17my
- 10:17life
- 10:17a
- 10:17bit
- 10:18easier.
- 10:18But
- 10:18I
- 10:18think,
- 10:19you
- 10:19know,
- 10:19when
- 10:19you're
- 10:19so
- 10:20in
- 10:20the
- 10:20depths
- 10:20of
- 10:20something,
- 10:21you
- 10:21don't
- 10:21almost
- 10:21have
- 10:21the
- 10:22energy
- 10:22to
- 10:22think
- 10:22clearly,
- 10:23do
- 10:23you?
- 10:23I
- 10:23kind
- 10:23of
- 10:23had
- 10:23to
- 10:24get
- 10:24through
- 10:24that,
- 10:25and
- 10:26I
- 10:26think
- 10:27my
- 10:28first
- 10:28ever
- 10:29call
- 10:29converted,
- 10:30which
- 10:30was
- 10:30amazing,
- 10:31that
- 10:31really
- 10:31boosted
- 10:31my
- 10:31confidence.
- 10:32And
- 10:32then
- 10:32I
- 10:32had
- 10:33another
- 10:33two
- 10:34within
- 10:34the
- 10:34first
- 10:35week.
- 10:35But
- 10:36then
- 10:36there
- 10:36was
- 10:36this
- 10:36real
- 10:37gap
- 10:37where
- 10:38I
- 10:38was
- 10:38speaking
- 10:38to
- 10:38all
- 10:39of
- 10:39these
- 10:39people
- 10:40and
- 10:40nothing,
- 10:41no
- 10:41one
- 10:42was
- 10:42saying
- 10:42yes,
- 10:43and
- 10:44I
- 10:44was
- 10:44really
- 10:44losing
- 10:44my
- 10:45nerve.
- 10:45And
- 10:45you
- 10:45just
- 10:45kept
- 10:46saying,
- 10:46you
- 10:47just
- 10:47have
- 10:47to
- 10:47give
- 10:47it
- 10:48time.
- 10:48They
- 10:48will
- 10:48come
- 10:49back.
- 10:49You
- 10:49know,
- 10:49you
- 10:49need
- 10:50to
- 10:50wait
- 10:50between
- 10:50three
- 10:50and
- 10:51six
- 10:51months,
- 10:51so
- 10:51these
- 10:51people
- 10:52will
- 10:52start
- 10:52coming
- 10:52back.
- 10:53And
- 10:54even
- 10:54though
- 10:55I
- 10:55fully
- 10:55trust
- 10:55what
- 10:56you're
- 10:56saying,
- 10:56until
- 10:57you've
- 10:57kind
- 10:57of
- 10:57experienced
- 10:58that,
- 10:58you
- 10:58have
- 10:58such
- 10:58a
- 10:59nervousness,
- 11:00I
- 11:00didn't
- 11:01fully
- 11:01have
- 11:01the
- 11:02confidence
- 11:02that
- 11:02that
- 11:03would
- 11:03happen.
- 11:03But
- 11:03you
- 11:03were
- 11:04absolutely
- 11:04right.
- 11:04And
- 11:04I
- 11:05think
- 11:05I
- 11:05got
- 11:05to
- 11:05the
- 11:05summer
- 11:06and
- 11:07went
- 11:07on
- 11:07a
- 11:07two
- 11:07week
- 11:07holiday
- 11:08with
- 11:08my
- 11:08family
- 11:09and
- 11:10felt
- 11:10a
- 11:11little
- 11:11bit
- 11:11down
- 11:11on
- 11:11that
- 11:11holiday
- 11:12because
- 11:12I
- 11:12was
- 11:12just
- 11:12really
- 11:13hoping
- 11:13to
- 11:13maybe
- 11:13get
- 11:14a
- 11:14couple
- 11:14more
- 11:14before
- 11:14we
- 11:15went
- 11:15away.
- 11:16And
- 11:17then
- 11:17I
- 11:17came
- 11:17back
- 11:18and
- 11:18I
- 11:18don't
- 11:18even
- 11:18think
- 11:18I
- 11:19necessarily
- 11:20did
- 11:20anything
- 11:21particularly
- 11:21different
- 11:22with
- 11:22my
- 11:22marketing.
- 11:22But
- 11:23all
- 11:23of
- 11:23a
- 11:23sudden,
- 11:24as
- 11:24you
- 11:24had
- 11:24said,
- 11:25a
- 11:26few
- 11:26of
- 11:26these
- 11:26people
- 11:26started
- 11:27coming
- 11:27back,
- 11:27and
- 11:28I
- 11:28got,
- 11:28I
- 11:29think,
- 11:29four
- 11:29or
- 11:29five
- 11:30over
- 11:30a
- 11:30couple
- 11:30of
- 11:30weeks
- 11:31in
- 11:31July,
- 11:32which
- 11:32I
- 11:32had
- 11:33expected
- 11:33to
- 11:33be
- 11:33quite
- 11:33quiet
- 11:34because
- 11:34it
- 11:34was
- 11:34the
- 11:35summer
- 11:35holidays.
- 11:36So
- 11:36when
- 11:37that
- 11:37happened,
- 11:37I
- 11:37think
- 11:38that's
- 11:38where
- 11:38the
- 11:38confidence
- 11:39really
- 11:39started
- 11:40to
- 11:40shift
- 11:40and
- 11:41that
- 11:41identity
- 11:42became
- 11:43a
- 11:43bit
- 11:43more
- 11:44embedded.
- 11:45And
- 11:45I
- 11:45started
- 11:45to
- 11:46think,
- 11:46okay,
- 11:46it's
- 11:46not
- 11:47just
- 11:47because
- 11:48this
- 11:48advert
- 11:48went
- 11:49out
- 11:49and
- 11:49loads
- 11:49of
- 11:49people
- 11:49booked
- 11:50in.
- 11:50These
- 11:50people
- 11:50have
- 11:51obviously
- 11:51stuck
- 11:51around,
- 11:52considered
- 11:52what
- 11:52I'd
- 11:53spoken
- 11:53to
- 11:53them
- 11:53about,
- 11:54gained
- 11:55some
- 11:55trust
- 11:55from
- 11:55what
- 11:55I
- 11:55was
- 11:55sharing,
- 11:56and
- 11:57then
- 11:57they've
- 11:57converted.
- 11:58And
- 11:59kind
- 11:59of
- 11:59anyone
- 12:00who's
- 12:00joined
- 12:00since
- 12:00then
- 12:01has
- 12:01had
- 12:02nothing
- 12:02to
- 12:02do
- 12:02with
- 12:02that
- 12:02advert.
- 12:03In
- 12:03April,
- 12:04it's
- 12:04been,
- 12:05you
- 12:05know,
- 12:05they've
- 12:06just
- 12:06come
- 12:06across
- 12:06my
- 12:06profile,
- 12:07or
- 12:07someone's
- 12:07recommended
- 12:08me,
- 12:08or
- 12:09a
- 12:09few
- 12:09have
- 12:09come
- 12:09from
- 12:09link,
- 12:10you
- 12:10know,
- 12:10now
- 12:11I
- 12:11think,
- 12:12I
- 12:12can't
- 12:12remember
- 12:13the
- 12:13last
- 12:13time
- 12:13I
- 12:13had
- 12:13a.
- 12:13Yes,
- 12:14it's
- 12:14not
- 12:14been
- 12:14in
- 12:14the
- 12:14last
- 12:15couple
- 12:15of
- 12:15weeks,
- 12:15but
- 12:15I
- 12:15don't
- 12:16feel
- 12:17panicked
- 12:17about
- 12:18that.
- 12:19I
- 12:19kind
- 12:19of
- 12:19feel
- 12:20the
- 12:20right
- 12:20ones
- 12:20come
- 12:20at
- 12:20the
- 12:20right
- 12:21time.
- 12:22Yeah,
- 12:22totally.
- 12:23It's
- 12:23so
- 12:23nice
- 12:23when
- 12:24you
- 12:24can
- 12:24lean
- 12:24into
- 12:24that
- 12:24trust
- 12:25and
- 12:25you
- 12:25know,
- 12:25there's
- 12:25always
- 12:26that
- 12:26fear
- 12:26every
- 12:27month.
- 12:27Like,
- 12:27oh,
- 12:27what
- 12:28if
- 12:28no
- 12:28one
- 12:28buys
- 12:28this
- 12:28month?
- 12:29Just
- 12:29have
- 12:29to
- 12:30keep
- 12:30thinking,
- 12:31and
- 12:31then
- 12:31somehow
- 12:31you
- 12:31get
- 12:31proved
- 12:32wrong
- 12:32every
- 12:33time.
- 12:33And
- 12:33it
- 12:33somehow
- 12:34just
- 12:34happens,
- 12:34doesn't
- 12:35it,
- 12:35when
- 12:35you
- 12:35build
- 12:35that
- 12:36pipeline
- 12:36and
- 12:37as
- 12:37consistent
- 12:38and
- 12:38good
- 12:38as
- 12:38you
- 12:39are
- 12:39online.
- 12:40I
- 12:40suppose
- 12:41when
- 12:41I
- 12:41started
- 12:42consistent
- 12:42to
- 12:42me
- 12:43would
- 12:43have
- 12:43been
- 12:44when?
- 12:44Every
- 12:44week
- 12:45or
- 12:45when
- 12:45every
- 12:46couple
- 12:46of
- 12:46weeks.
- 12:46And
- 12:46it
- 12:47isn't
- 12:47necessarily
- 12:48like
- 12:48that.
- 12:48They
- 12:48seem
- 12:48to
- 12:48come
- 12:49in
- 12:49little
- 12:49waves,
- 12:50but
- 12:50as
- 12:50long
- 12:50as
- 12:50they
- 12:51do
- 12:51come,
- 12:52then
- 12:52I
- 12:52suppose
- 12:52that's
- 12:53the
- 12:53main
- 12:53thing,
- 12:53isn't
- 12:53it?
- 12:54Totally.
- 12:54So,
- 12:55in
- 12:55terms
- 12:55of
- 12:55a
- 12:56general
- 12:56month
- 12:57for
- 12:57you
- 12:57at
- 12:57the
- 12:58moment,
- 12:59how
- 12:59many
- 12:59discovery
- 13:00calls,
- 13:00say,
- 13:00do
- 13:01you
- 13:01get
- 13:01booked?
- 13:01And
- 13:02how
- 13:02many
- 13:02clients?
- 13:03Maybe
- 13:03as
- 13:04a
- 13:04result
- 13:05it
- 13:05does
- 13:05really
- 13:06depend.
- 13:06But
- 13:06I
- 13:07normally
- 13:07have
- 13:07at
- 13:07least
- 13:08two
- 13:08discovery
- 13:08calls
- 13:09a
- 13:09week,
- 13:10I
- 13:10would
- 13:10say.
- 13:11And
- 13:12in
- 13:12terms
- 13:13of
- 13:13a
- 13:13conversion
- 13:14rate,
- 13:15I
- 13:15actually
- 13:15don't
- 13:16know.
- 13:16I
- 13:16couldn't
- 13:17really
- 13:17give
- 13:17you
- 13:17that
- 13:17statistic.
- 13:18But
- 13:18I
- 13:18did
- 13:18have
- 13:18a
- 13:18look
- 13:18the
- 13:18other
- 13:19day.
- 13:19I've
- 13:19got
- 13:19a
- 13:20log
- 13:20of
- 13:20every
- 13:20discovery
- 13:21call
- 13:21I've
- 13:21done
- 13:22since
- 13:22I
- 13:22started
- 13:23in
- 13:23the
- 13:24program.
- 13:24It's
- 13:24near
- 13:24to
- 13:25100
- 13:25and
- 13:25I
- 13:25got
- 13:2615.
- 13:29But
- 13:29certainly
- 13:30without
- 13:30looking
- 13:30at
- 13:30the
- 13:31data,
- 13:31the
- 13:32conversion
- 13:32since
- 13:33getting
- 13:33back
- 13:33from
- 13:33that
- 13:33summer
- 13:34holiday
- 13:34has
- 13:34definitely
- 13:34been
- 13:35a
- 13:35lot
- 13:35better.
- 13:36Yeah,
- 13:36totally.
- 13:37What
- 13:38was
- 13:38most
- 13:38helpful
- 13:39from
- 13:39the
- 13:39program
- 13:40for
- 13:40you?
- 13:41I
- 13:41almost
- 13:41don't
- 13:41know
- 13:42which
- 13:42bit
- 13:42to
- 13:43pull
- 13:43out.
- 13:44I
- 13:44couldn't
- 13:44have
- 13:45set
- 13:46up
- 13:46everything
- 13:46I
- 13:47needed
- 13:47without
- 13:47your
- 13:48content
- 13:48and
- 13:48that
- 13:48step
- 13:49by
- 13:49step
- 13:49process.
- 13:49So
- 13:49that
- 13:50has
- 13:50been
- 13:50absolutely
- 13:50invaluable
- 13:51and
- 13:51it's
- 13:51really
- 13:52simplified
- 13:53it
- 13:53for
- 13:53me.
- 13:53I
- 13:54think
- 13:54you
- 13:54make
- 13:54things
- 13:55feel
- 13:55a
- 13:55lot
- 13:55bigger
- 13:56in
- 13:56your
- 13:56head
- 13:56than
- 13:57what
- 13:57they
- 13:57need
- 13:57to
- 13:57be
- 13:57when
- 13:58you're
- 13:58at
- 13:58the
- 13:58start.
- 13:59For
- 13:59example,
- 14:00the
- 14:00website,
- 14:00you
- 14:01gave
- 14:01me
- 14:01a
- 14:01really
- 14:01simple
- 14:02solution
- 14:02to
- 14:02get
- 14:02that
- 14:03up
- 14:03and
- 14:03running
- 14:03because
- 14:04actually
- 14:04most
- 14:04of
- 14:04my
- 14:04clients
- 14:05are
- 14:05coming
- 14:05through
- 14:05Instagram
- 14:06and
- 14:06LinkedIn
- 14:07anyway.
- 14:07At
- 14:07this
- 14:07stage,
- 14:08things
- 14:08like
- 14:08that
- 14:09were
- 14:09amazing,
- 14:10I
- 14:10think,
- 14:10you
- 14:10know,
- 14:11you
- 14:11really.
- 14:12The
- 14:12voice
- 14:12notes
- 14:13and
- 14:13being
- 14:14able
- 14:14to
- 14:14say,
- 14:15oh
- 14:15my
- 14:15gosh,
- 14:15this
- 14:15has
- 14:15just
- 14:16happened.
- 14:16What
- 14:17do
- 14:17I
- 14:17do?
- 14:17Or
- 14:18what
- 14:18do
- 14:18you
- 14:18think
- 14:18of
- 14:18this?
- 14:19Or,
- 14:19oh,
- 14:19I've
- 14:19just
- 14:19had
- 14:19a
- 14:20really
- 14:20tricky
- 14:20response
- 14:21here,
- 14:21how
- 14:21do
- 14:21I
- 14:21handle
- 14:22that?
- 14:22And,
- 14:23you
- 14:23know,
- 14:23your
- 14:24dedication
- 14:24to
- 14:24your
- 14:25clients,
- 14:25your
- 14:25availability,
- 14:26even
- 14:27though
- 14:27you
- 14:27have
- 14:27brilliant
- 14:28boundaries
- 14:28in
- 14:28place
- 14:28with
- 14:29that,
- 14:30you
- 14:30would
- 14:30always
- 14:31come
- 14:31back
- 14:31to
- 14:31me
- 14:31really
- 14:31fast.
- 14:33I
- 14:33liked
- 14:33that
- 14:33it
- 14:33was
- 14:34on
- 14:34voice
- 14:34notes
- 14:34because
- 14:34it's
- 14:34just
- 14:34more
- 14:35authentic.
- 14:36So
- 14:36I
- 14:36think
- 14:36that's
- 14:36been
- 14:36amazing.
- 14:37And
- 14:37I've
- 14:37also
- 14:38gained
- 14:38such
- 14:38a
- 14:38brilliant
- 14:39accountability
- 14:39partner
- 14:40with
- 14:40one
- 14:40of
- 14:40the
- 14:41women,
- 14:41Leela,
- 14:42who's
- 14:42in
- 14:42the
- 14:42program
- 14:42as
- 14:43well.
- 14:43And
- 14:43she
- 14:43has
- 14:43been
- 14:44amazing.
- 14:45She
- 14:45is
- 14:46far,
- 14:46far
- 14:46more
- 14:47established
- 14:47than
- 14:47me
- 14:48and
- 14:48in
- 14:49a
- 14:49very
- 14:49different
- 14:50niche,
- 14:50but
- 14:50she's
- 14:50just
- 14:51been
- 14:51such
- 14:52a
- 14:52big
- 14:52supporter,
- 14:53such
- 14:53a
- 14:53good
- 14:53voice
- 14:53of
- 14:53reason,
- 14:54and
- 14:55hopefully
- 14:55we
- 14:55help
- 14:55each
- 14:56other
- 14:56out
- 14:57and
- 14:57we're
- 14:57really
- 14:57going
- 14:58to
- 14:58keep
- 14:58that
- 14:58going.
- 14:59So
- 14:59that's
- 15:00three
- 15:00answers
- 15:00for
- 15:00the
- 15:00person.
- 15:01Yeah,
- 15:02totally.
- 15:02Oh,
- 15:03I
- 15:03love
- 15:03that.
- 15:03I've
- 15:03always
- 15:04thought,
- 15:04oh,
- 15:04gosh,
- 15:04who's
- 15:04your
- 15:04responsibility
- 15:05partner?
- 15:05But
- 15:05it's
- 15:06so
- 15:06great.
- 15:06And
- 15:07I
- 15:07love
- 15:07how
- 15:07people
- 15:08really
- 15:08do
- 15:08continue
- 15:09it
- 15:09after
- 15:09the
- 15:09program
- 15:10as
- 15:10well.
- 15:11So
- 15:11hopefully,
- 15:11you
- 15:12and
- 15:12Leela
- 15:12are.
- 15:12Are
- 15:12you?
- 15:13Yes,
- 15:14absolutely.
- 15:14We've
- 15:14got
- 15:14our
- 15:15next
- 15:15call
- 15:15booked
- 15:15in.
- 15:15I
- 15:15think
- 15:16she's
- 15:16away
- 15:16doing
- 15:16an
- 15:16amazing
- 15:17retreat
- 15:18at
- 15:18the
- 15:18moment,
- 15:18but,
- 15:18yes,
- 15:19we've
- 15:19got
- 15:19a
- 15:19cool
- 15:19booked
- 15:20in
- 15:20in
- 15:20a
- 15:20couple
- 15:20of
- 15:20weeks.
- 15:21Love
- 15:21it.
- 15:22Okay,
- 15:22so
- 15:23this
- 15:23is
- 15:23going
- 15:23to
- 15:23be
- 15:23a
- 15:23tricky
- 15:23one,
- 15:23but
- 15:23I'll
- 15:24go
- 15:24for
- 15:24it
- 15:24anyway.
- 15:25Biggest
- 15:25takeaway
- 15:26from
- 15:26the
- 15:26program?
- 15:28That
- 15:28you
- 15:28have
- 15:28to
- 15:29trust
- 15:30what
- 15:31people
- 15:31who
- 15:32are
- 15:32a
- 15:32few
- 15:32years
- 15:33ahead
- 15:33of
- 15:33you
- 15:33are
- 15:34actually
- 15:34saying.
- 15:35Because
- 15:35if
- 15:36I'd
- 15:36have
- 15:36probably
- 15:36just
- 15:37accepted,
- 15:39you
- 15:39know,
- 15:39early
- 15:40on,
- 15:40the
- 15:40key
- 15:40bits
- 15:41of
- 15:41information
- 15:41that
- 15:41you
- 15:42were
- 15:42giving
- 15:42me,
- 15:42that
- 15:42you
- 15:43can
- 15:43really
- 15:43simplify
- 15:44it,
- 15:44that
- 15:45people
- 15:45will
- 15:45come
- 15:45back
- 15:46to
- 15:46you,
- 15:46but
- 15:46you
- 15:46don't
- 15:47need
- 15:47to
- 15:47panic,
- 15:47that
- 15:48you
- 15:48just
- 15:49need
- 15:49to
- 15:49keep
- 15:49doing
- 15:50what
- 15:50you're
- 15:50doing.
- 15:51I
- 15:51think
- 15:51I
- 15:52would
- 15:52have
- 15:52had
- 15:52a
- 15:52much
- 15:52less
- 15:53stressful
- 15:53April
- 15:54may,
- 15:54indeed.
- 15:55Yeah,
- 15:55totally.
- 15:56But
- 15:57you
- 15:58have
- 15:58to
- 15:58go
- 15:58through
- 15:58it
- 15:59sometimes.
- 15:59But
- 15:59totally,
- 16:00I
- 16:00hear
- 16:00you,
- 16:01and
- 16:02if
- 16:03someone
- 16:03is
- 16:04listening
- 16:04and
- 16:05thinking,
- 16:05I
- 16:05really
- 16:06want
- 16:06to
- 16:06do
- 16:06this,
- 16:07but
- 16:07they're
- 16:08worrying
- 16:08about
- 16:09money,
- 16:09will
- 16:09it
- 16:09work
- 16:09for
- 16:10me?
- 16:10Or
- 16:11all
- 16:11of
- 16:11the
- 16:11things
- 16:11that
- 16:11we
- 16:12worry
- 16:12about
- 16:12before
- 16:12investing,
- 16:13what
- 16:13would
- 16:14you
- 16:14say
- 16:14to
- 16:14them?
- 16:15I
- 16:16mean,
- 16:16it
- 16:16was
- 16:16a
- 16:16really
- 16:17big
- 16:18investment
- 16:18for
- 16:18me,
- 16:19and
- 16:19I
- 16:19did
- 16:19feel
- 16:20really
- 16:20nervous
- 16:20about
- 16:20that.
- 16:21And
- 16:22if
- 16:22I'd
- 16:22have
- 16:22been
- 16:22in
- 16:22a
- 16:23different
- 16:23financial
- 16:23position,
- 16:24I
- 16:24probably
- 16:24wouldn't
- 16:25have
- 16:25requested
- 16:26a
- 16:26discovery
- 16:26call
- 16:26with
- 16:27you
- 16:27because
- 16:27I
- 16:27was
- 16:27pretty
- 16:27sold.
- 16:28All
- 16:28your
- 16:28content,
- 16:28everything
- 16:28is
- 16:29amazing.
- 16:29And
- 16:29I'd
- 16:29heard
- 16:30your
- 16:30voice
- 16:30through
- 16:30your
- 16:30podcast.
- 16:31I
- 16:32was
- 16:32at
- 16:32the
- 16:32very
- 16:32start,
- 16:32so
- 16:33I
- 16:33wasn't
- 16:33making
- 16:33any
- 16:33money
- 16:34yet.
- 16:34It
- 16:34felt
- 16:34quite
- 16:35scary.
- 16:35But
- 16:36I've
- 16:37got
- 16:37that
- 16:37return
- 16:38on
- 16:38investment
- 16:38so
- 16:39quickly.
- 16:39Five
- 16:40or
- 16:40six
- 16:40times
- 16:40that
- 16:41return
- 16:41on
- 16:41investment
- 16:42within
- 16:42the
- 16:42program
- 16:43when
- 16:43ahead
- 16:43of
- 16:44finishing
- 16:44it.
- 16:44So
- 16:45it's
- 16:45absolutely
- 16:46worth
- 16:46it.
- 16:46And
- 16:47if
- 16:47it
- 16:47was
- 16:47a
- 16:47product
- 16:48based
- 16:48business
- 16:48that
- 16:48we
- 16:49were
- 16:49building,
- 16:49you
- 16:49would
- 16:49be
- 16:49investing
- 16:50in
- 16:50the
- 16:50stock
- 16:50and
- 16:50you
- 16:50would
- 16:51be
- 16:51selling
- 16:51it
- 16:51later.
- 16:51And
- 16:51it
- 16:51is
- 16:52that.
- 16:52It's
- 16:52a
- 16:52different
- 16:52mindset,
- 16:53isn't
- 16:53it?
- 16:53You
- 16:53have
- 16:54to
- 16:55get
- 16:55uncomfortable
- 16:55and
- 16:56invest,
- 16:56and
- 16:56it
- 16:56just
- 16:56speeds
- 16:57everything
- 16:57up
- 16:58so
- 16:58much.
- 16:58I
- 16:59can't
- 16:59imagine
- 16:59how
- 16:59long
- 16:59it
- 16:59would
- 17:00have
- 17:00taken
- 17:00me
- 17:01to
- 17:01try
- 17:01and
- 17:01muddle
- 17:02through
- 17:02all
- 17:02of
- 17:02these
- 17:03crucial
- 17:03elements
- 17:03of
- 17:04building
- 17:04a
- 17:04business.
- 17:04So
- 17:05yeah,
- 17:05absolutely.
- 17:05Just
- 17:06do
- 17:06it
- 17:06if
- 17:07you
- 17:07can.
- 17:07Love
- 17:07it.
- 17:08Totally.
- 17:08And
- 17:08it's
- 17:09really
- 17:09hard
- 17:09that
- 17:09people
- 17:10don't
- 17:10see
- 17:10that
- 17:11their
- 17:11time
- 17:12is
- 17:12money.
- 17:12So
- 17:12in
- 17:13other
- 17:13words,
- 17:13if
- 17:13you're
- 17:14going
- 17:14to
- 17:14do
- 17:14it
- 17:14on
- 17:14your
- 17:14own,
- 17:14you
- 17:15might
- 17:15not
- 17:15earn
- 17:15any
- 17:16income
- 17:16for
- 17:16two
- 17:17years
- 17:17because
- 17:18you're
- 17:18figuring
- 17:19out
- 17:19how
- 17:19to
- 17:19do
- 17:20all
- 17:20of
- 17:20this
- 17:20stuff.
- 17:21So
- 17:21I
- 17:21love
- 17:22that
- 17:22reference.
- 17:22And
- 17:22also
- 17:23the
- 17:23retail
- 17:24one
- 17:24about
- 17:24the
- 17:25stock.
- 17:25You
- 17:26have
- 17:26to
- 17:26invest
- 17:26in
- 17:26the
- 17:26stock
- 17:27to
- 17:27actually
- 17:27get
- 17:27the
- 17:28sale.
- 17:28The
- 17:28other
- 17:28side
- 17:29of
- 17:29what
- 17:29is
- 17:30next
- 17:30for
- 17:30you,
- 17:30Levana?
- 17:31What's
- 17:31exciting
- 17:32next
- 17:33moves
- 17:33in
- 17:33your
- 17:33career?
- 17:34I'm
- 17:35in
- 17:35two
- 17:35minds
- 17:35about
- 17:35it.
- 17:35I'm
- 17:36only
- 17:36really
- 17:36seven
- 17:37months
- 17:37into
- 17:37one
- 17:37to
- 17:37one
- 17:37coaching,
- 17:38so
- 17:38I've
- 17:38still
- 17:38got
- 17:39loads
- 17:39of
- 17:39experience
- 17:39to
- 17:40gain
- 17:40and
- 17:40I
- 17:40really
- 17:40enjoy
- 17:41that.
- 17:41However,
- 17:42I'm
- 17:42working
- 17:43nearly
- 17:43every
- 17:44evening
- 17:44and
- 17:44that's
- 17:44quite
- 17:45tiring
- 17:45and
- 17:45it's
- 17:45not
- 17:45a
- 17:46long
- 17:46term
- 17:46goal.
- 17:47So
- 17:47ideally
- 17:48for
- 17:48me,
- 17:48I'd
- 17:49love
- 17:49to
- 17:49working
- 17:49daytime
- 17:50only
- 17:50week
- 17:51and
- 17:51turn
- 17:51time
- 17:52only.
- 17:53That's
- 17:53sort
- 17:53of
- 17:53the
- 17:54dream.
- 17:54It
- 17:54very
- 17:54much
- 17:54feels
- 17:55as
- 17:55though
- 17:55I
- 17:56want
- 17:56to
- 17:56kind
- 17:56of
- 17:56pivot
- 17:57the
- 17:57business
- 17:58and
- 17:58scale
- 17:59it
- 17:59to
- 17:59just
- 17:59simplify
- 18:00it,
- 18:01allow
- 18:01me
- 18:01to
- 18:02start
- 18:02really
- 18:02creating
- 18:03hours
- 18:03and
- 18:03boundaries
- 18:04that
- 18:04I
- 18:05set
- 18:05out
- 18:05to
- 18:05do.
- 18:06I
- 18:06was
- 18:06always
- 18:06very
- 18:06prepared
- 18:07to
- 18:07put
- 18:07in
- 18:07a
- 18:07couple
- 18:07of
- 18:08years
- 18:08and
- 18:08be
- 18:08very
- 18:08flexible,
- 18:09of
- 18:09course,
- 18:10and
- 18:10I'm
- 18:10enjoying
- 18:11doing
- 18:11it,
- 18:11but
- 18:11it's.
- 18:12Yeah,
- 18:12it's
- 18:12that
- 18:13scaling
- 18:13bit
- 18:13next
- 18:14for
- 18:14me.
- 18:14So
- 18:15looking
- 18:15at
- 18:15group
- 18:15programs,
- 18:16although
- 18:16I
- 18:16have
- 18:17no
- 18:17idea
- 18:17how
- 18:17that
- 18:17would
- 18:17work
- 18:18in
- 18:18this
- 18:18niche,
- 18:18digital
- 18:19courses,
- 18:19etcetera,
- 18:20moving
- 18:20into
- 18:21that
- 18:21and
- 18:21planning
- 18:21that
- 18:21out,
- 18:22I
- 18:22think.
- 18:22And
- 18:23that's
- 18:23my
- 18:23absolute
- 18:24love,
- 18:24as
- 18:24you
- 18:24know
- 18:24from
- 18:25running
- 18:25my
- 18:25own
- 18:25group
- 18:26program.
- 18:26And
- 18:26it
- 18:26honestly
- 18:27can
- 18:27work.
- 18:27And
- 18:28I've
- 18:28just
- 18:28helped
- 18:28somebody
- 18:29who
- 18:30also
- 18:30had
- 18:30concerns
- 18:31about,
- 18:31oh,
- 18:32they're
- 18:32all
- 18:32in
- 18:32the
- 18:32same
- 18:32industry,
- 18:33they're
- 18:33not
- 18:33going
- 18:33to
- 18:33want
- 18:34anyone
- 18:34to
- 18:34know.
- 18:35And
- 18:35she
- 18:35has
- 18:36successfully
- 18:36launched,
- 18:37so
- 18:37I'm
- 18:37excited
- 18:38for
- 18:38your
- 18:38next
- 18:39move.
- 18:40So
- 18:40what
- 18:41should
- 18:41others
- 18:41know
- 18:41about
- 18:42working
- 18:42with
- 18:42me?
- 18:44Well,
- 18:44your
- 18:45whole
- 18:45marketing
- 18:45is
- 18:46around
- 18:46honesty,
- 18:46not
- 18:46hype,
- 18:47and
- 18:47that
- 18:47is
- 18:47definitely
- 18:48true.
- 18:48So
- 18:48you'll
- 18:49get
- 18:49an
- 18:49absolute
- 18:50expert,
- 18:50but
- 18:51someone
- 18:51that
- 18:51you
- 18:51can
- 18:51actually
- 18:51relate
- 18:52to
- 18:53that
- 18:53is
- 18:53in
- 18:54the
- 18:54nicest
- 18:54possible
- 18:54way
- 18:55a
- 18:55normal
- 18:55person
- 18:56that
- 18:56has
- 18:56had
- 18:56an
- 18:57amazing
- 18:57career,
- 18:58shifted
- 18:58into
- 18:58this
- 18:58and
- 18:59built
- 18:59a
- 18:59brilliant
- 18:59business.
- 19:00And
- 19:01that's
- 19:01really,
- 19:01really
- 19:02inspiring.
- 19:02So
- 19:02you
- 19:03definitely
- 19:03get
- 19:03that.
- 19:04You
- 19:04get
- 19:04an
- 19:04amazing
- 19:05community.
- 19:05The
- 19:06resource
- 19:06is
- 19:06brilliant.
- 19:07There
- 19:07are
- 19:07loads
- 19:08of
- 19:08guest
- 19:08speakers
- 19:08and
- 19:08stuff
- 19:09as
- 19:09well,
- 19:10and
- 19:10additional
- 19:11things
- 19:11that
- 19:11are
- 19:11offered
- 19:12like
- 19:12sales,
- 19:12sprints
- 19:13and
- 19:13positive
- 19:13psychology.
- 19:14You
- 19:14get
- 19:15a
- 19:15lot
- 19:15of
- 19:15value
- 19:16for
- 19:16your
- 19:16money,
- 19:17basically.
- 19:18Love
- 19:19it.
- 19:19And
- 19:19then
- 19:19last
- 19:20question,
- 19:20who
- 19:20would
- 19:20you
- 19:20recommend
- 19:21the
- 19:21program
- 19:21to?
- 19:23Anyone
- 19:23who
- 19:24is
- 19:25launching
- 19:26a
- 19:26coaching
- 19:26business
- 19:27or
- 19:27has
- 19:28launched
- 19:28one
- 19:28and
- 19:28is
- 19:28feeling
- 19:28a
- 19:28bit
- 19:29stuck.
- 19:29That
- 19:30is
- 19:31just
- 19:31a
- 19:31good,
- 19:32honest
- 19:32person
- 19:33that
- 19:33wants
- 19:33to
- 19:33build
- 19:33a
- 19:33sustainable
- 19:34business.
- 19:34I
- 19:35think
- 19:35that's
- 19:35who
- 19:35I
- 19:35would
- 19:35recommend
- 19:36it
- 19:36to.
- 19:36Thank
- 19:36you
- 19:37so,
- 19:37so
- 19:37much
- 19:37Levana.
- 19:38You
- 19:38were
- 19:38an
- 19:38absolute
- 19:39joy
- 19:39to
- 19:40work
- 19:40with,
- 19:40as
- 19:40you
- 19:41know,
- 19:41and
- 19:41I
- 19:41cannot
- 19:42wait
- 19:42to
- 19:42continue
- 19:42to
- 19:43follow
- 19:43your
- 19:43journey.
- 19:44Oh
- 19:44thank
- 19:44you
- 19:45Jo.
- 19:45It's
- 19:45been
- 19:45brilliant.
- 19:46Wasn't
- 19:47it
- 19:47super
- 19:47inspiring
- 19:48to
- 19:48hear
- 19:49Levana
- 19:50go
- 19:50from
- 19:50zero
- 19:51clients
- 19:51to
- 19:5215
- 19:53paid
- 19:53clients?
- 19:54Currently
- 19:54in
- 19:55her
- 19:55four
- 19:55figure
- 19:56career
- 19:56coaching
- 19:56program,
- 19:58she
- 19:58has
- 19:58been
- 19:59a
- 19:59huge
- 20:00inspiration
- 20:01and
- 20:01I
- 20:01have
- 20:02loved
- 20:02being
- 20:02part
- 20:03of
- 20:03her
- 20:03journey,
- 20:04especially
- 20:04in
- 20:05this
- 20:05early
- 20:05part
- 20:05when
- 20:06there
- 20:06is
- 20:06so
- 20:07much
- 20:07to
- 20:07do
- 20:08and
- 20:08it
- 20:08can
- 20:08go
- 20:08either
- 20:09way
- 20:09and
- 20:09it
- 20:10is
- 20:10overwhelming.
- 20:11And
- 20:11all
- 20:11of
- 20:11the
- 20:11things
- 20:12like
- 20:12Nirvana
- 20:12shares
- 20:13the
- 20:14mastery
- 20:15she
- 20:15is
- 20:15committed
- 20:16to
- 20:16in
- 20:16her
- 20:17marketing
- 20:18is
- 20:18a
- 20:18joy
- 20:19to
- 20:19watch.
- 20:20So
- 20:20if
- 20:20you
- 20:21are
- 20:21in
- 20:22that
- 20:22place
- 20:22of
- 20:23playing
- 20:23around
- 20:24but
- 20:24not
- 20:24really
- 20:25having
- 20:25real
- 20:26support,
- 20:26real
- 20:26feedback,
- 20:27real
- 20:27guidance,
- 20:28you
- 20:28don't
- 20:29have
- 20:29maybe
- 20:29a
- 20:29community
- 20:30to
- 20:30share
- 20:30with
- 20:31and
- 20:31to
- 20:32cheer
- 20:32you
- 20:32on
- 20:33on
- 20:33this
- 20:33journey
- 20:33of
- 20:34entrepreneurship,
- 20:35then
- 20:35please
- 20:36do
- 20:36join
- 20:36the
- 20:37business
- 20:37of
- 20:37coaching
- 20:38program.
- 20:39I
- 20:39would
- 20:39love
- 20:40to
- 20:40feature
- 20:41you
- 20:41in
- 20:41our
- 20:42next
- 20:42case
- 20:42study
- 20:43conversation
- 20:43on
- 20:44this
- 20:44podcast.
- 20:45You
- 20:45will
- 20:45find
- 20:45the
- 20:45link
- 20:46to
- 20:46the
- 20:46business
- 20:46of
- 20:46coaching
- 20:47programme
- 20:47in
- 20:47the
- 20:47show
- 20:48notes
- 20:48and
- 20:48I
- 20:48look
- 20:49forward
- 20:49to
- 20:49working
- 20:49with
- 20:49you.
- 20:50Thank
- 20:51you
- 20:51so
- 20:51much
- 20:51for
- 20:52listening
- 20:52to
- 20:52this
- 20:52episode
- 20:53of
- 20:53Women
- 20:53in
- 20:53the
- 20:54coaching
- 20:54arena.
- 20:55I
- 20:55have
- 20:56a
- 20:56mass
- 20:56of
- 20:56free
- 20:57resources
- 20:57on
- 20:58my
- 20:58website,
- 20:59joannalotcoaching.com.
- 21:02that's
- 21:02Joanna
- 21:03with
- 21:03an
- 21:03a
- 21:03and
- 21:04lot
- 21:04with
- 21:04two
- 21:04t's,
- 21:05joannalottscoaching.com
- 21:08and
- 21:08I'll
- 21:08also
- 21:09put
- 21:09links
- 21:09in
- 21:09the
- 21:09show
- 21:10notes
- 21:10below.
- 21:11Let
- 21:12me
- 21:12know
- 21:12if
- 21:12you
- 21:12found
- 21:13this
- 21:13episode
- 21:13useful,
- 21:14share
- 21:14it
- 21:15with
- 21:15a
- 21:15friend
- 21:15and
- 21:16leave
- 21:16me
- 21:16a
- 21:16review
- 21:17and
- 21:17I
- 21:17will
- 21:17personally
- 21:18thank
- 21:18you
- 21:18for
- 21:19that.
- 21:20Remember
- 21:21to
- 21:21trust
- 21:21yourself,
- 21:22believe
- 21:22in
- 21:22yourself
- 21:23and
- 21:23be
- 21:23the
- 21:24wise
- 21:24gardener
- 21:24who
- 21:25keeps
- 21:25on
- 21:25watering
- 21:26the
- 21:26seed.
- 21:27Get
- 21:27into
- 21:27the
- 21:27arena,
- 21:28dare
- 21:28greatly
- 21:29and
- 21:29try.