Latest / Sense Only / You’re Sitting on Gold… But Doing Nothing With It (Here’s Why) | Business Investor, Tojake Ep 15
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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: Most people produce children, they didn't they have no clue of about life.
- 0:03SPEAKER_02: We've had to live have a child and don't even have no plan in place.
- 0:07SPEAKER_02: Like, oh my gosh.
- 0:08SPEAKER_02: I really don't understand it.
- 0:10SPEAKER_02: Money is not real.
- 0:11SPEAKER_02: That's one thing I'll tell you.
- 0:12SPEAKER_02: It's not real.
- 0:12SPEAKER_02: The work the reason why they want more AI to take over work because work is repetitive.
- 0:18SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 0:18SPEAKER_02: So a robot could do that.
- 0:20SPEAKER_02: Why do you think they always encourage men to have women?
- 0:23SPEAKER_02: Because it helps to prolong a men's life for at least another 20 years.
- 0:26SPEAKER_04: Give it away, and I guess not seeing the value in our stuff.
- 0:29SPEAKER_04: That as you just said, we then give it away.
- 0:32SPEAKER_04: People then repackage our stuff and sell it back to us, which is wild.
- 0:38SPEAKER_02: What's funny is that the quality is rubbish.
- 0:40SPEAKER_02: There you go.
- 0:40SPEAKER_02: It's never to the specs of what is actually meant to be.
- 0:44SPEAKER_04: Do enough of us see the value in our stuff though?
- 0:47SPEAKER_04: Because I think there's a there's a good portion of our people, unfortunately, that like to assimilate others and put more of a value on other people's things and way of doing things.
- 0:58SPEAKER_04: The UK has great PR on the world stage, you know.
- 1:01SPEAKER_04: It's from what's put out into the world to what we have to live and experience is two different things.
- 1:16SPEAKER_04: Greetings and salutations.
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: I'm your host, Alicia Mullings, and this is the Sense Only Podcast.
- 1:22SPEAKER_04: This podcast is for those who are tired of the noise, distraction, and disconnection in the world.
- 1:27SPEAKER_04: It's for those who know that we need to be the change that we'd like to see in the world.
- 1:32SPEAKER_04: Today, our wonderful guest is here making big changes that not only help herself but also help us as a community, helping us to get into business and to actually find investment and funding for these businesses.
- 1:45SPEAKER_04: Today I'm happy to welcome the wonderful Tajik.
- 1:50SPEAKER_03: Hey, hi everyone.
- 1:51SPEAKER_03: Thankful for inviting me this year.
- 1:53SPEAKER_03: This is it's been a long day, isn't it?
- 1:55SPEAKER_03: I'm loving the British weather, very windy.
- 2:00SPEAKER_03: The weather's getting better every time.
- 2:02SPEAKER_03: But let's not talk about weather.
- 2:03SPEAKER_03: Um, we've got some sorry, serious topic to talk about.
- 2:05SPEAKER_03: Definitely serious topic.
- 2:07SPEAKER_02: I'm excited.
- 2:07SPEAKER_02: That's good.
- 2:08SPEAKER_02: Um, and I feel that this is the platform to really express um what I want to talk about.
- 2:13SPEAKER_02: It is.
- 2:14SPEAKER_04: So let's tell everybody about yourself and what it is specifically that you do.
- 2:18SPEAKER_02: So, what I would say to people, a lot of people, um okay, so me, my name is Tajik here.
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: I'm born in Westminster in London, and uh I've always been passionate about stuff, especially in London, UK, Europe, even globally.
- 2:33SPEAKER_02: But um, one of my main passion is really the marinated people who are interested in starting business.
- 2:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, we have uh like especially those who are not 50 yet, so we need to really push them to start a business.
- 2:47SPEAKER_02: And they and also uh with me, how I got interested in business.
- 2:52SPEAKER_02: So I've got a degree in advertising and brand management.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: I went to university in UCA, Surrey.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: Um it's evolved like uh marketing, stroke graphic uh research and stuff, and and analysing brands.
- 3:04SPEAKER_02: So I realize the importance of brands and what they're about.
- 3:08SPEAKER_02: And um I think a lot of people don't say we've been us as Newman people, we've not been trained or put in a position, a position to know about brands and customer service and image.
- 3:22SPEAKER_02: So um, and also how can you say um they are loopholes, there's ways you can get help.
- 3:29SPEAKER_02: Okay, but no one is telling people.
- 3:32SPEAKER_02: So that's really the main thing.
- 3:33SPEAKER_02: My job really is to try and encourage as much people, especially we don't know, because we've got the best ideas.
- 3:38SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 3:38SPEAKER_02: When it comes to ideas, I'm just shocked when I'm around Nuban people.
- 3:43SPEAKER_02: They are full of ideas, but they're not executing it.
- 3:46SPEAKER_02: Like when it's executing, they're not starting the business, uh collaborating, trying to do find a way of turning their idea to a reality.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: So it's important you may have the idea, but you now need to execute, you really need to do it.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: If you can't do it, find someone you can work with that you get along with to do the idea.
- 4:04SPEAKER_02: But this but I think we're in a stage now, there's a lot of help, but it's not too open, but it's there.
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: And while we're speaking, I'll you know release those links of sites or where people can go to to get um support and help.
- 4:19SPEAKER_02: Uh with me, I work with uh private companies and uh organised also I work with uh business specialists and other organised, but me myself, I look, I go around looking for projects to invest in.
- 4:33SPEAKER_02: And uh so I'm always happy to hear ideas and how we're gonna you know support the idea and move it to the next, you know, the next stage.
- 4:42SPEAKER_02: That's the main thing.
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: But like I said, thank you for having me.
- 4:44SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you've got more questions to ask me.
- 4:46SPEAKER_01: I have.
- 4:46SPEAKER_01: I know, I know, don't worry.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh, I'm scared.
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: No, that's fine.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm not really scared.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: I'm um I'm a I'm a brave girl, so I'll I'll answer all of them.
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll be kind.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 4:57SPEAKER_04: So um, in terms of what you just mentioned when you're saying that there's a lot of our people who have all the ideas.
- 5:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah, every single person has ideas.
- 5:05SPEAKER_04: This is it, but however, there's there's a gap in the chain of then creating execution.
- 5:11SPEAKER_04: What do you think that gap is?
- 5:12SPEAKER_04: What is the stumbling block that okay?
- 5:14SPEAKER_02: So the one of the biggest problems we have within uh Nuban people, the group as a whole, um majority of the professionals have chosen not to have like a side hustle or a business.
- 5:26SPEAKER_02: So they just do the job, their job or what they do, and as it that has to change.
- 5:30SPEAKER_02: They need every every if you're melanate, especially if you're Nubian, you need to understand that you must have at least three or four types of income.
- 5:39SPEAKER_02: Because yeah, you may have a job, but tomorrow they can either when they make someone redundant, the first people they target is the Nubian people and the women.
- 5:49SPEAKER_02: So if you're a black woman, there's a likely chance you're gonna be made redundant, like easily.
- 5:53SPEAKER_02: And as a suit, and also as a female, when you get to 30, you start seeing a lot of discrimination in the workplace.
- 5:59SPEAKER_02: They automatically just it's just for some reason, it's just like I don't know, it's like they feel that you're now meant to be a director or a manager, and if you don't have that, so they're now gonna give you three, four times the workload.
- 6:12SPEAKER_02: And um I just feel that we're not really the thing about um I'm not gonna encourage anyone just to quit their job, still stay in it, but try and have something on the side that you do.
- 6:23SPEAKER_02: Because the business may take long, but the reward is unbelievable.
- 6:28SPEAKER_02: So to earn one pound, you have to sweat.
- 6:33SPEAKER_02: With your job, you're just like a robot, just consistently repetitive.
- 6:38SPEAKER_02: But with the business, yeah, just that one pound you earn is like you really sweat, but then you learn so much just to earn that that little money, and then it just makes you sharper, it makes you um more intuitive.
- 6:50SPEAKER_02: Um, a lot of our people who do have business, another thing I will say with them is they should they need to network more.
- 6:56SPEAKER_02: So sometimes they should encourage where they work to do a showcase of their their products, say, Oh, some there are some managers who are very like open or nice, or maybe within the some of the CEOs want to see some because I won't say all companies are bad because sometimes the company's been terrible, but when you meet the CEO, the CEO, like the people at top, they're completely different, they're very open, very like business-minded, and they say, Oh, okay, you have that.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: Do you want to do a one day to showcase your stuff or talk about your skill?
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: So everywhere you are, people need to try and promote the skill they have, and if they got an idea, they shouldn't just keep it themselves.
- 7:34SPEAKER_02: Oh, you need some, then you meet some of the elders, uh baby boomers, yeah, conversations about these laps.
- 7:41SPEAKER_02: I have an idea for 15-20 years and not executed it.
- 7:45SPEAKER_04: It's painful, it's actually painful.
- 7:47SPEAKER_04: But the thing is, like, for me to just kind of add to the question that I asked you in terms of what I've personally experienced, um, because people see me moving and shaking for years.
- 8:01SPEAKER_04: And with people who are, yeah, within my my orbit are very familiar with my mindset and how I operate.
- 8:07SPEAKER_04: That I guess through this podcast, a lot of people are now being introduced to me through this podcast.
- 8:11SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 8:12SPEAKER_04: Well, I guess people who are, you know, who used to be in all the previous businesses I've had will be yeah, very familiar with how I operate and very much uh go-getter and have been for a very long time, which is why a lot of people.
- 8:25SPEAKER_02: But where did you get this attitude from?
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: This goal because not much people have this attitude.
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: What do you do in sports?
- 8:31SPEAKER_02: No.
- 8:31SPEAKER_02: Do you come from a certain type of family?
- 8:33SPEAKER_04: I think it's my family, okay, and I speak about them a lot on this podcast.
- 8:37SPEAKER_04: I think my family have very much helped to cultivate a strong self-esteem.
- 8:46SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 8:46SPEAKER_04: Um, I think it's been beautiful to have because humongous, both my family's a humongous mum's side and dad's side.
- 8:53SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 8:53SPEAKER_04: It's even though it's a lot of personalities, but the beauty of so many personalities is it's very much helped my eye and shape me.
- 9:04SPEAKER_04: Um when you say EQ, you can explain that because of it.
- 9:06SPEAKER_04: Emotional intelligence and people have um previous episodes we've explained emotional intelligence, but basically reading a room socially, emotionally reading people and people have that skill response, but this is it.
- 9:19SPEAKER_04: So I think because I think no, I don't think I know that because I grew up around so many people and so many strong personalities, even though I I always say I'm probably the least competitive person anyone could ever meet in their life, I always say I do not business what the next person's doing, I don't care.
- 9:42SPEAKER_02: No, no, it's not there's two types of competition.
- 9:44SPEAKER_02: There's one where you copy something, and some there's one where you're competing yourself, like with me.
- 9:48SPEAKER_02: So that's what I was gonna get to my competition.
- 9:50SPEAKER_02: I compete with myself, yeah.
- 9:51SPEAKER_04: Is with me.
- 9:52SPEAKER_04: This is the point I'm making.
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: So as much as crazy when people look at me thinking, oh you're alright.
- 9:57SPEAKER_04: Well, you know when you compete yourself, you just the bar is so compete with your own self because you know everything that's going on with you, you don't know what's going on with the next person.
- 10:08SPEAKER_04: So I think it's also it's been as I say beautiful to have so many people around, so we've been able to just bounce off each other, and also it's nice to have technically such close inspiration from my family.
- 10:22SPEAKER_04: That's that's really good, and have people who are go-getters within themselves, so it puts less of a bar over my head of oh, we can't achieve it, because I'll be like, Oh boy, uncle whoever achieved that, or but cousin whoever achieved that.
- 10:36SPEAKER_04: So it makes it so much, yeah, so much more real, you know, and it just yeah, it just nurtures your personality and and things like that.
- 10:43SPEAKER_04: So I'd definitely say the fact that I'm such a go-getter, very much I can, you know, hand some of that over to all my family.
- 10:51SPEAKER_04: Um, that's good.
- 10:52SPEAKER_02: Well, you know what I was gonna say, is like they have given you that ideology which can help others because not many people have this, like when people look at me, they say, touching, oh, you always you get shut down and you climb up and you you start doing stuff again.
- 11:08SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you know what?
- 11:10SPEAKER_02: One of the things I did was which which my parents put me into was sports.
- 11:14SPEAKER_02: I was playing tennis.
- 11:15SPEAKER_02: Okay, no.
- 11:16SPEAKER_02: So I trained sometimes six hours in a day, and I did that for like something to start training every day for discipline, yeah.
- 11:22SPEAKER_02: Just yeah, so it was a lot of sports.
- 11:25SPEAKER_02: Or no, another thing I was also into when I was very young, like age of three, I was a painting.
- 11:29SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 11:30SPEAKER_02: So I used to paint loads of and this when you paint is like unconditional, you just do loads of painting, don't expect money, just doing it out of love and out of freedom and happiness, and then also I've got um I've got a sibling, a younger sibling, which I'm always checking up on and she was calling me, which is good.
- 11:48SPEAKER_02: I mean, so I'm always like having to look after someone or something.
- 11:51SPEAKER_02: So I think having a structure in place helps, but also you have to have a goal for yourself, definitely, which is say, okay, like my many years ago I did have access to about a trillion, but that didn't fall through.
- 12:05SPEAKER_02: But I told myself I'm gonna have access to more funding to open doors.
- 12:11SPEAKER_02: So this funding's for like mainly for people who are below 50 because it's like a 30-year spam long.
- 12:18SPEAKER_02: You know, sorry, it's up for beamers.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: Sorry, beamers.
- 12:21SPEAKER_02: Uh so we're looking for people who want to uh improve the lives of humanity.
- 12:26SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 12:26SPEAKER_02: So this includes infrastructure.
- 12:29SPEAKER_02: Um, we're doing a green energy project also, and um, so there's a lot of stuff we're doing.
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: People can contact me later after the you know neither end does I give my deals.
- 12:38SPEAKER_02: But um the thing about I've noticed about life, like I think me and you had a meeting, we spoke about you you can't give up, you know.
- 12:44SPEAKER_02: This is it.
- 12:45SPEAKER_02: They this they did say the people who failed in business are the ones that quit.
- 12:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah, basically, because this at the same time, if you want to keep it real simple, sometimes it's just a numbers game.
- 12:55SPEAKER_04: Literally, you just stay in the race, you're gonna get there.
- 12:58SPEAKER_04: So you get there anyway.
- 12:59SPEAKER_04: Literally, it's you know, you hear a lot of people who are actually doing it for themselves now, and it can be as simple as the simple word consistency.
- 13:08SPEAKER_04: You stay consistent, you're gonna get to wherever you're trying to get to.
- 13:12SPEAKER_04: Eventually, yeah, it might not be too fast, but you just you're always gonna lose if you bow out of the race.
- 13:18SPEAKER_04: If you stay in the race, you're gonna get to the end.
- 13:20SPEAKER_02: For me and you, like, it took me like 20 years because we're the same age because I'm realising to me to get to this place, people think that I just woke up one day and I became an investor or like had access to all this stuff.
- 13:31SPEAKER_02: This is 20 years now.
- 13:32SPEAKER_02: It's like I've been going into business, business all the time, and I've been sharp.
- 13:37SPEAKER_02: And but the thing is that I kept saying to myself, why did it take you so long?
- 13:40SPEAKER_02: Well, I said, you know what?
- 13:41SPEAKER_02: I'm actually in a we're in a good place because we did it properly.
- 13:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 13:46SPEAKER_02: This we we imparted the should I mention that name?
- 13:49SPEAKER_02: Sweet we imparted the e-files, you know.
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna mention his name.
- 13:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you don't need to mention it.
- 13:53SPEAKER_02: So I was just about so this controversial stuff, some people did a quick way to get stuff, and I'm looking and thinking, wow, you know, I was so anti against those people and their their lifestyle, and I felt that my way was the way, and I realized that really my intuition was actually very, very good.
- 14:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you have to believe in your intuition.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh wow, definitely.
- 14:16SPEAKER_02: So I've so it's and it's just I'm just in a good space because I'm like, I don't like know with some people, especially those shady lot, those shady uh wealthy people, they give you something and they want you have to do some really messed up stuff or something.
- 14:30SPEAKER_02: I don't need to do that with people say, okay, you want something, this is what we do.
- 14:34SPEAKER_02: We give them the paperwork, maybe they sign an NDA.
- 14:36SPEAKER_02: I'm so glad that it's not like I don't have I didn't know how messed up they are in the mindset that they really have to like okay, we're gonna give you this, and in return, you have to humiliate yourself or do this, or I'm like, wow, is this what they had to go through?
- 14:53SPEAKER_04: But the thing is though, even though, as you say, we've been in the game for a long time, I think when you kind of come into other people's orbit, they think like you have some overnight sensation.
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: It'd be like you know how much years it took to get to get here.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: Push you through to get here.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: I know how many people try to block you or rubbish you.
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, and you're likeeration.
- 15:20SPEAKER_02: And you're like, what is is this?
- 15:21SPEAKER_02: And then people you truth see, because you I don't know, there's this ideology.
- 15:24SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you know it, but I've observed it very well.
- 15:27SPEAKER_02: Maybe African culture do, I think they do just it's a it's a world thing.
- 15:30SPEAKER_02: What's that?
- 15:31SPEAKER_02: So if you're black and you're female, the day you get born, automatically someone, it could be in your family or someone in society sees you as a as a slave, someone to you to use.
- 15:41SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, it's it sounds terrible, but I'm gonna let you land.
- 15:44SPEAKER_02: Go on, go ahead.
- 15:45SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying, this is this is something which they don't they don't bring out, but it's it's something they just see as you're gonna be used for the like the rest of your life.
- 15:54SPEAKER_02: Because you have to remember they with with naturally they use us.
- 15:57SPEAKER_02: Who's day, sorry, in terms of when you're it could be f the structure could be the family members, one of the family members, it could be society, it could be the me anything that you just want to use by use your energy.
- 16:07SPEAKER_02: Okay, and they all are in it, they all are in it.
- 16:10SPEAKER_02: They're all in it sounds terrible, they're all in it.
- 16:11SPEAKER_02: But some people are lucky, they come from really good families where that they don't have someone who's sitting there thinking, oh, for the rest of their life, you I'm gonna use you.
- 16:19SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, they're saying this is what happens as a black female.
- 16:21SPEAKER_02: So a lot of women, we need to train them.
- 16:23SPEAKER_02: That they need to know their power because imagine that you get all your life, somebody gets you and they turn 70, and then they don't know, but the energy, imagine you've got the energy, but it's not you.
- 16:35SPEAKER_04: Actually, it's been extracted.
- 16:37SPEAKER_04: See where you go with this, okay, energetically.
- 16:40SPEAKER_02: So I'm trying to say what that's why it's important to start a business, because then you have self-independence.
- 16:46SPEAKER_02: Correct.
- 16:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and also just be more um because the financial world, I'm like I'm big in it, it's it's not real.
- 16:53SPEAKER_02: The money is not real.
- 16:54SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying, too.
- 16:55SPEAKER_02: It's not real.
- 16:56SPEAKER_02: But it's real in some way.
- 16:58SPEAKER_02: Because the system, the people who created it, the make patriarchy system, created money as a form of instrument.
- 17:05SPEAKER_02: Correct.
- 17:06SPEAKER_02: So those of us who have access to it or who have control over it, we need to try and make other people's life as easier.
- 17:12SPEAKER_02: Another thing I was gonna mention to you was you know, they plan to change things in the next five years.
- 17:16SPEAKER_02: Expand for the people.
- 17:17SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
- 17:18SPEAKER_02: Within the next five years, it's you know, like we have every seven to nine years there's a recession, not there's a recession.
- 17:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 17:24SPEAKER_02: There's an economical crash.
- 17:25SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 17:28SPEAKER_02: This one is the one of the most catastrophic.
- 17:32SPEAKER_02: It's uh they're involving AI.
- 17:34SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 17:35SPEAKER_02: And uh so they've calculated that the the elites, you know, or the government, whatever.
- 17:42SPEAKER_02: They've calculated that everyone can succeed.
- 17:44SPEAKER_02: They can, they can do if they if you focus.
- 17:46SPEAKER_02: You can reach the 100k one million earning, you can do it.
- 17:50SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 17:51SPEAKER_02: But no people are not being told, and the people it's gonna affect the most are really those who are um nearing to be 50.
- 17:59SPEAKER_02: So you people need to be established within the next five years.
- 18:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:02SPEAKER_02: So but it can be done.
- 18:03SPEAKER_04: Well, it's I guess it's less than five years now, isn't it?
- 18:05SPEAKER_04: Isn't it 2030?
- 18:06SPEAKER_04: You need to sort your life out.
- 18:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it said 2030, but when I was reading properly, and 2030, you're right, 2030 is one of it, that's one of the first phase.
- 18:15SPEAKER_02: But officially, when I read, I watched if you go on YouTube and type, it's about maybe four years or four years and a half.
- 18:23SPEAKER_02: So it's around round that time.
- 18:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 18:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so um the aim is to try and separate a contrast of humans.
- 18:31SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 18:32SPEAKER_02: Because they're saying humans are reaching a higher consciousness.
- 18:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:36SPEAKER_02: So, and the higher consciousness is coming on earth, like it's forcing us to become more intelligent.
- 18:41SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 18:42SPEAKER_02: So, you know when Gen Z say they don't want to work, that is, we think it's some of us think, oh my gosh, if you think about it logically, they are right.
- 18:50SPEAKER_02: They shouldn't be going to office and working, they can work from home or start their own business, they can do whatever they want to do.
- 18:56SPEAKER_02: They shouldn't be forced into it, and also if they're saying that they don't want to start a family, yeah, they're helping in some way because you have people who have children and they hate them.
- 19:04SPEAKER_02: They try to abuse them and do and they allow them to get abused.
- 19:07SPEAKER_04: So another episode.
- 19:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll remove that for another time.
- 19:11SPEAKER_02: So basically, um so uh another thing I was gonna say was uh so it's very important why we as a people who have so much ideas start generating cash flow.
- 19:23SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 19:23SPEAKER_02: Because the reason why the system's changed is also targeted as us.
- 19:27SPEAKER_02: Because when I was talking to you know my other investors, I said, Well, why are they gonna do this?
- 19:32SPEAKER_02: They said, you know what?
- 19:33SPEAKER_02: I said, you black people are really intelligent people, you've got all the ideas, but you are at a low frequency right now.
- 19:39SPEAKER_02: And they said, What do you mean?
- 19:40SPEAKER_02: Because you guys are not starting businesses, uh the you know, there's a lot of short-term plan, um, some are very fleshy.
- 19:48SPEAKER_02: When I say fleshy, like the ambition just to get, you know, have become a parent.
- 19:54SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, there's more to I'm not saying like having children is terrible, I'm just saying that if you have a child, you need to have money.
- 20:00SPEAKER_02: People are having children and they're broke, which is I think 2026.
- 20:03SPEAKER_02: I won't be rude, but to me, I think it's unacceptable.
- 20:06SPEAKER_02: Um, I know I sound harsh, but I'm just being realistic.
- 20:09SPEAKER_02: It just sounds realistic.
- 20:10SPEAKER_02: Um because if you got all these mouths to feed, how are you feeding them?
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: This is not doesn't make sense, but simple maths right.
- 20:16SPEAKER_02: But even if they have the child, they can say, okay, you know, because before the child starts walking or getting to primary school, they can do put a uh something in place.
- 20:26SPEAKER_02: Like say, okay, let me I've got an activity, let me start finding a way to side hustle or make money out of something I enjoy doing.
- 20:33SPEAKER_02: So it's not like the last thing you can do is put okay, you're someone's struggling and they put uh bring a life to struggle to struggle with them.
- 20:41SPEAKER_02: So it's then but things can change.
- 20:44SPEAKER_02: I'm not like against saying, oh, that is it.
- 20:46SPEAKER_02: I feel that hum um someone can change your life within one or two years, it can happen if they stay focused or are in the right environment.
- 20:54SPEAKER_02: That's another option.
- 20:55SPEAKER_02: But the thing is that a lot of our people no one's telling them what environment to go to.
- 21:00SPEAKER_04: I totally agree with that because as I always say, environment's everything, and you find that a lot of our people unfortunately are residing in environments that are not that it's unprogressive, unprogressive, yeah.
- 21:12SPEAKER_04: The the opposite of progression, literally, enemy of progress, shall I say?
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: You know what's funny?
- 21:18SPEAKER_02: It's people out there who have like workshops, they probably got a van, they could organise a group.
- 21:25SPEAKER_02: This is something I'm just saying out there.
- 21:26SPEAKER_02: Something they could organise, okay.
- 21:28SPEAKER_02: I live in this area, okay.
- 21:30SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should organise a weekly visit to the gallery, art gallery, or a walk in a park.
- 21:37SPEAKER_04: It's beautiful, the ideas are beautiful, but this is what we were saying earlier.
- 21:42SPEAKER_04: There's a disconnect in actually making it happen.
- 21:46SPEAKER_04: Um, because to add to it, the amount of people who just like to come up to me and oh, I just want to pick your brain, Alicia.
- 21:52SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, oh, we've got to pick my brain on the way for free.
- 21:57SPEAKER_04: I've stopped it.
- 21:58SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: I understand, yeah.
- 22:02SPEAKER_04: But even so, when I do actually just help people, um, it then becomes lip service because I can sit down, spend my time, help somebody with whatever their venture is or whatever their ambition is or whatever their dreams are, and they do sometimes I will give people step-by-step instructions or at least a starting plan, whether they follow what I've gave them and they just view up and do their own version.
- 22:27SPEAKER_04: Please do, because at the end of the day, you're still going to get to where you're trying to head to.
- 22:32SPEAKER_04: The thing that will make me feel away would be the fact that I've just broke it down to you so simply and you don't do nothing with it.
- 22:41SPEAKER_04: That's I don't like that.
- 22:43SPEAKER_04: This is this is why I get a bit funny when people come up to me and chat about the wanna pick my brain because I'm like, but you're not actually gonna do anything with that.
- 22:51SPEAKER_02: That's if you're gonna pick someone's brain, you should try and take action.
- 22:54SPEAKER_02: The next step is action.
- 22:55SPEAKER_02: So when I meet people, that's what I'm saying about the boomers who do it.
- 22:57SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying about the boomers, what is it?
- 22:59SPEAKER_04: Nothing.
- 22:59SPEAKER_02: I've contacted five years later, oh, I'm talking about a project they mentioned to me five years ago.
- 23:05SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, what can you remember that?
- 23:07SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what do you mean?
- 23:08SPEAKER_02: How can I remember that?
- 23:08SPEAKER_02: When you told me in my head automatically, I visualised this that's where I'm at.
- 23:14SPEAKER_02: When someone tells me something, I get happy, I'm like, oh, and I visualize it like already like happening.
- 23:18SPEAKER_02: Then now it's when I see you, I mean not see you maybe four or five years by accidents.
- 23:23SPEAKER_02: I remember your face because I'm very good at faces.
- 23:25SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh, remember that idea?
- 23:26SPEAKER_02: They're like, you still remember that?
- 23:28SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, haven't you started?
- 23:30SPEAKER_02: Nope.
- 23:31SPEAKER_02: That's the worst thing.
- 23:32SPEAKER_02: I think the most important thing, we need to encourage people, especially I think just the Nuban people as well, they need to start questioning each other and questioning themselves.
- 23:42SPEAKER_02: They need to start things.
- 23:43SPEAKER_02: It's better to start, even if it doesn't work out, at least you start it.
- 23:47SPEAKER_04: I just don't know, but there's something that stops people from starting.
- 23:51SPEAKER_04: Yes, and you know this this fear, but also kind of what we touched on earlier with um there's like an imposter syndrome as well.
- 24:00SPEAKER_04: Okay, people are just scared of their own success and things like that, or if they're in yeah, overall, I guess it's a level, there's different levels and different factors of fear.
- 24:10SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, there is, yeah.
- 24:11SPEAKER_04: And it's sad.
- 24:12SPEAKER_04: I'm just like, how do we contribute or help to reprogramming that?
- 24:16SPEAKER_02: I think there need to be workshops on self-cause one of the issues I've noticed psychological on us as a people, we lack self-love.
- 24:26SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
- 24:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like there's you said self-love, and there needs to be a uh maybe a yoga class, but no, the thing about it, we can't just do ex classical class, and that's it.
- 24:37SPEAKER_02: No, it needs to be more on the mind, it's like it needs to be uh uh like a wording, like an affirmation being played while yoga is being done or uh Zamba, there's an affirmation playing at the back, like an affirmation wording, being played repeatedly to just they're doing it at the same time they listen to positive like words because it's not like we're completely different from everybody, we're really like in order for us to reach the peak, because remember, the reason why they have to deliberately change the whole system, what what has been put out is that we are very advanced, because remember, we've been here for a very long time, we're we're advanced human beings, us Nubians, but we're not using our intelligence.
- 25:21SPEAKER_02: They said that the work, the reason why they want more AI to take over work because work is repetitive.
- 25:28SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 25:28SPEAKER_02: So a robot could do that, but then you've got humans, especially black people, the Nubian people, who can come up with the most amazing ideas on the spot.
- 25:37SPEAKER_02: And they're not because in order for humanity to reach at its best, because all the angels of like civilization, they wouldn't say it, but it's melanated people that did it.
- 25:46SPEAKER_02: But in order for civilization to reach its peak, like its best, there's two things that have to uh mainly three, but two main things that have to happen.
- 25:56SPEAKER_02: Women have to step up, like be have more business, and black people have to have to also step up because the the standards, because women, our brain, they they know this.
- 26:09SPEAKER_02: Women, why do you think they always encourage men to have women?
- 26:12SPEAKER_02: Because it helps to prolong a men's life for at least another 20 years.
- 26:16SPEAKER_02: And women have a complex brain, and we've got all our brains, when we do anything, all our brains function with men.
- 26:21SPEAKER_02: Men and men have only got two free parts of brain.
- 26:24SPEAKER_02: Look, why do you think there's is most of the violence are done by by males because of their primitive type of brain?
- 26:31SPEAKER_02: But women, we're the complex, we're the ones putting things in place.
- 26:35SPEAKER_02: So if women go more into business, build us, and and black people, especially our new the Nubian people, go into that, the standard will look when we come on, just cooking alone, we season everything.
- 26:47SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you see, I even season my rice.
- 26:49SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 26:50SPEAKER_04: Do you season such a random question?
- 26:54SPEAKER_02: No, no, uh I'm just I'm putting the whole thing.
- 26:56SPEAKER_02: I know it's crazy.
- 26:57SPEAKER_02: I'm saying that it's so extra, we we just from food, yeah.
- 27:01SPEAKER_02: You've from extras to food, talk is about business and everything else.
- 27:05SPEAKER_02: So I'm just what I'm trying to say is that when it comes to high expectations of putting stuff at the highest level, like the culture, look at it, because Notting Hill, I mean, we don't own that anymore, but when it started, it's the Newman people that created it.
- 27:18SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: And then uh any place like even Brixton, any place that has culture, they they come back and they take over it.
- 27:24SPEAKER_02: So we bring the flavour to everything, yes, but we need to start capitalizing on our own flavour.
- 27:31SPEAKER_02: Because we're just releasing that like it's you know, it's free for like it's it's not like it's for everyone.
- 27:38SPEAKER_04: I hear you.
- 27:38SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm just like, what is the solution to that?
- 27:42SPEAKER_02: Because I don't I think we talk a lot, uh black people we we communicate a lot, but sometimes we're communicating to the wrong people and we're giving away our gems.
- 27:52SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we give it away, and I guess not seeing the value in our stuff that as you just said, we then give it away.
- 27:58SPEAKER_04: People then repackage our stuff and sell it back to us, which is wild.
- 28:03SPEAKER_02: And we know where they're repackaging.
- 28:05SPEAKER_02: What's funny is that the quality's rubbish.
- 28:07SPEAKER_02: There you go.
- 28:07SPEAKER_02: It's never to the specs of what it's actually meant to be.
- 28:11SPEAKER_02: Because you know what we're saying, we're saying you know, we we know, you know, you've seen it yourself.
- 28:15SPEAKER_02: This whole idea, when you look at the idea, you're like, oh, why has this got African print and all that stuff?
- 28:20SPEAKER_02: I've seen some brands, I'm like, mmm, I saw a tea brand, I'm like, that's strange, and I saw another one, and then when I did research, I heard it was the idea was actually from Kenya, but a person got it when I went to look at it, they're not, they're from this kind of open down, and I'm like, wow, okay, it's it's do is it that we don't care or is it that we do we do?
- 28:43SPEAKER_02: We just live in we're just living.
- 28:45SPEAKER_04: Do enough of us see the value in our stuff though?
- 28:48SPEAKER_04: Because I think there's a there's a good portion of our people, unfortunately, that like to assimilate others and put more of a value on other people's things and way of doing things.
- 28:59SPEAKER_02: I understand it's very stupid.
- 29:00SPEAKER_02: I think it's like again, yeah, there has to be a workshop in place about self-love and also about accepting your creative skills, like whatever you are.
- 29:10SPEAKER_02: I don't know why it feels that um another thing the ideology has done, I the ideology system has done is that if the idea comes from a Nuban person, it's not of good energy, makes sense.
- 29:23SPEAKER_02: You know, is that good energy or value?
- 29:27SPEAKER_02: According to who though both, both, both pep maybe no no your family's strong, but we're talking talking about even people's own family, do that.
- 29:35SPEAKER_02: The same idea, like oh, uh might be an artwork or something.
- 29:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but because it came from a Newman person, is not seen as high value or seen as or not as high value, also seen as oh, it's not people have been brainwashed, it's not classy or like the child but then the same another person would create the same thing, same thing, and it's automatically it's fantastic.
- 29:58SPEAKER_04: It's a brainwashing, and you know, I guess these are the the remnants of colonialism if we need to go down that path, you know, and slavery, both of the two.
- 30:08SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, this is it.
- 30:09SPEAKER_04: Um so it's a whole reprogramming that needs to happen, you know.
- 30:15SPEAKER_04: People need to get back to seeing the beauty that is us.
- 30:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's come up.
- 30:21SPEAKER_02: But um I think it's not just the children in target, it's the adults.
- 30:26SPEAKER_02: Because again, if you don't believe in yourself, how are you gonna start a business?
- 30:30SPEAKER_02: This is it, and if you don't see the value in believing your own people, how are you gonna do anything?
- 30:34SPEAKER_02: How are you gonna invest put money or say, oh okay, I you know, you because if you love yourself so much, that's what I like about the United States.
- 30:42SPEAKER_02: You know, there's they really have a group like of people who just like are pro.
- 30:49SPEAKER_04: We used to have that, but they're with the parents' generation, it was I guess stronger, but there's still there's still collectives and there's still cliques and groups, smaller groups of people, the subgroups.
- 31:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there is there's but what I would encourage people, this is something I want to say to people just general, is if you don't invest in your own, and then you in the future, because some of them they have this mentality, oh I don't want to make you know another person looks like me to do well, and then five years later they want to start their own business and they flop.
- 31:20SPEAKER_02: Makes sense if somebody does not invest on their own people, this just just this is something there's not I'm not cursing them, just it's just the law of maths and nature.
- 31:30SPEAKER_02: If you don't invest in your own, don't expect anything great to happen to you because you you've that's the mindset, right?
- 31:37SPEAKER_04: That's the energy and the vibration you've put out there, so therefore it's gonna boom around.
- 31:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then and then when they because of some of them I've met them and I said to them because some I remember once somebody mentioned somebody to several people, you probably might know some.
- 31:49SPEAKER_02: They had a business, business flopped, and then someone told me, Oh, why are you trying to help that person?
- 31:55SPEAKER_02: That person messed up several other Newman people's business.
- 32:01SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 32:02SPEAKER_02: And now they want to start a business, but they said they were shocked the person started a business because the person was so anti-business five years ago or ten years ago.
- 32:10SPEAKER_02: So we have to be careful.
- 32:13SPEAKER_04: People evolve, they do, but maybe they were in more of an immature state of life.
- 32:17SPEAKER_04: No what?
- 32:17SPEAKER_04: Or their self-esteem was low, and you know, they've may have worked on themselves and you know, I guess transition to it into a better being.
- 32:24SPEAKER_04: So people a bit of grace.
- 32:27SPEAKER_02: I think I think it's easier for women to change because of our the way our bodies and that the fact we produce children, we have to change.
- 32:35SPEAKER_02: But I think when it comes, I'm not being rude, this is just something about men.
- 32:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think with them that this there's no change.
- 32:40SPEAKER_02: It's more like, oh, uh, I heard that person made about 800 pounds in a day.
- 32:45SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, I'll try it now.
- 32:47SPEAKER_02: You I mean to send like okay, maybe it's my turn now.
- 32:49SPEAKER_02: Let me do it.
- 32:50SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying there's a culture in which they're not that's not saying patriarchy.
- 32:54SPEAKER_02: If we observe patriarchy, it's one of the worst things that got in invented.
- 32:57SPEAKER_02: I know you shouldn't be speaking about that, but um the thing there should be a balance, you know, a balance.
- 33:03SPEAKER_02: Because like I said, men live another extra 20 years just for just by being married, so women do play a huge part.
- 33:09SPEAKER_02: So there should be a lot of investment in women as a whole.
- 33:13SPEAKER_02: Women's behavior do improve when they have children, when and also women naturally then they would nurture.
- 33:19SPEAKER_02: So even if you're a woman, you don't have a child, you will there will be someone you're looking after.
- 33:23SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 33:23SPEAKER_02: There will be.
- 33:24SPEAKER_02: You'll be a sister, a brother, something it's gonna be one relative you'll be looking after.
- 33:28SPEAKER_02: It's just expected from you.
- 33:31SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 33:31SPEAKER_02: You stand so um to that kindness is naturally a feminine energy.
- 33:38SPEAKER_02: So uh we do they did say in a statistic a lot of black women are in business, but I think I was mentioned to you earlier, oh my gosh, 0.02% were given funding from the UK banks, which is disgraceful.
- 33:55SPEAKER_02: So you know that is mainly the females doing business, but you're not investing in the women.
- 34:01SPEAKER_02: So it there's a system they're trying to it looks like they're trying to encourage them to stay in the workforce.
- 34:06SPEAKER_04: But that's a beautiful segue into partly why you're here because I've as I know, but now you can share with the people, you actually saw a problem in or a challenge in investment.
- 34:20SPEAKER_04: Not mention the big global investor by name, but you saw that they majority of the time when they were making investments was to people who are, I guess, as you said, it's mainly white white men.
- 34:33SPEAKER_04: White men white men, yeah.
- 34:34SPEAKER_04: So you've seen that problem there, and then obviously because you're an investor, you've I let you expand on that.
- 34:39SPEAKER_04: What did you do?
- 34:41SPEAKER_02: Okay, so me as a whole, I was literally just working with uh business funding specialists who were releasing business loans.
- 34:49SPEAKER_02: So I was already working with them, so I was already scouting, and then I said to myself, I need to get a much bigger um project.
- 34:57SPEAKER_02: Uh reason why, because I felt that yes, the business loans, you know, not everyone qualify, but the bigger projects sometimes they don't ask all this to I mean they do ask for questions, but they are more interested in your idea.
- 35:10SPEAKER_02: So you have if you have a really good business plan, a good proposal, and the fact that they are stretching a project for a 30 year spam or 20 years, so that means the person has to be like 15 below, young people.
- 35:21SPEAKER_02: They do want to invest, so it's like it can get people out of certain situations.
- 35:27SPEAKER_02: Also, all the projects I'm involved in is about improving the life of humanity.
- 35:32SPEAKER_02: Okay, so they're all you know, it's like green energy.
- 35:35SPEAKER_02: I don't want to do projects where it's all about the person getting rich, me get it's like okay, you're doing something, you're um gonna help people's health, you're gonna bring clean water, but at the same time, there's a business side to it.
- 35:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you I mean it benefits the the community, yes, plus it benefits the person comes with the idea because they also get wealthy from it, but at the same time, it's something that covers a large because also they provide jobs.
- 36:02SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 36:03SPEAKER_02: So when we are um looking through the business plans and the proposals, we also ask them to make sure they have a you know a list of people that work with them that creates employment.
- 36:15SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 36:16SPEAKER_02: So you know, and that's really good.
- 36:17SPEAKER_02: So they're creating employment, they're helping uh whatever because the the projects we do, we cover any country.
- 36:24SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 36:24SPEAKER_02: So we're not like oh it's all the UK.
- 36:26SPEAKER_02: So wherever the we do cover every country, but we are a bit discriminatory to some countries because of their poor um basically um they ha have a corrupt system.
- 36:39SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 36:39SPEAKER_02: So some countries are very corrupt, so we can't really do business with them.
- 36:43SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 36:43SPEAKER_02: Because we know we give release funding them, there's you know, nothing's seen.
- 36:48SPEAKER_02: They'd be like, oh, all the officials or the governments would have taken their peace, and then nothing.
- 36:53SPEAKER_04: That's just that's just due diligence, so that's that's okay because you know I but most countries we support, we support most countries.
- 37:00SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, so it's a global project.
- 37:02SPEAKER_02: Um, if anyone wants to get involved or they want to get in touch with me, I'm happy uh to listen.
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: I'm always listening to ideas, I'm always looking for new people.
- 37:10SPEAKER_04: Um so if you just specify that again in terms of what you need, so you need people who want to start a business, a green business, did you say it was a good one?
- 37:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so basically the one of the things we do now is uh we're looking for companies to have a million turnover.
- 37:26SPEAKER_02: Existing or existing businesses I've been but we have another project which is much bigger, you don't even need to have that much turnover at all.
- 37:34SPEAKER_02: You just need to have a great idea.
- 37:36SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, and so that great idea business, um we have to obviously, because there's a group of us, and we first thing would be me.
- 37:45SPEAKER_02: I'll be the one scouting, right?
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: Listening to what the individual has to talk about, making notes, um, observing their body language because sometimes it's not really the project is great, it's the individual.
- 37:57SPEAKER_02: Of course, absolutely.
- 37:58SPEAKER_02: So I recently I had there's one individual I I won't say I fell out with, but I was like, why did I pick this person?
- 38:03SPEAKER_02: But the project is great, I saw the project, it's amazing.
- 38:06SPEAKER_02: And I think next time I see that character, I will not be selecting that type of person.
- 38:11SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna give it a clue who that person is because I want people to say, Oh, I'm gonna there's some people gonna start adjusting their behaviour.
- 38:16SPEAKER_02: So, um, but I saw some red marks, but um, I just thought, well, let me just let them through.
- 38:22SPEAKER_02: But um, I want somebody who's got a good humanity behaviour, like they really want to help people.
- 38:29SPEAKER_02: Um they are just relaxed, just relax on themselves, don't no stress, just be yourself because even though I put people forward, I have to observe character.
- 38:41SPEAKER_02: Of course, yes, because I'm not willing to give money because after you hear all that terrible things you have in, you give money to people who already are evil thinking or not good, and then when they get money, what what are they gonna do with the money?
- 38:55SPEAKER_02: Because money just makes an evil person more more evil.
- 39:00SPEAKER_02: Okay, so um so literally I I need to I already we already have put about six people forward for the huge project.
- 39:09SPEAKER_02: It's look it's all going well.
- 39:10SPEAKER_04: So it's just any idea?
- 39:12SPEAKER_02: Any idea, but the thing is I wouldn't really tell them until I meet them because I don't want to give too much, sometimes you don't want to give too much information because you're trying to scan who you're dealing with.
- 39:22SPEAKER_04: So the fact that uh so the fact that I'm currently about to produce a few documentaries, I'll go into the details of them when we're not on the camera.
- 39:32SPEAKER_04: Does that fit into a criteria of a of a good business?
- 39:35SPEAKER_02: The problem is you immediately had a discussion, remember you told me how much you needed, and the money was way it's in a different spectrum.
- 39:42SPEAKER_02: So I can't put you forward for that.
- 39:44SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 39:45SPEAKER_02: But with me, if anyone has an idea, I already work with other investors and bankers.
- 39:50SPEAKER_02: So I would put things forward to them.
- 39:52SPEAKER_02: But like at the moment, I've got several you're on one, and there's several other people that um who have projects but it's not in the millions, like cool, it's all less.
- 40:00SPEAKER_02: I'm actually scouting to meet other investors who do that's what they do.
- 40:03SPEAKER_02: They specialise in startups and smaller funding, and I'm gonna speak to them and say, Oh look, I saw their da-da.
- 40:09SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
- 40:09SPEAKER_02: We have meetings, so we have regular meetings, I go and meet them, I talk to them on the phone.
- 40:13SPEAKER_02: Like there's one I'm meeting on Tuesday, we're gonna talk.
- 40:16SPEAKER_02: He's an investor, also.
- 40:17SPEAKER_02: We're gonna discuss, I'll I'll bring because they always give me ideas.
- 40:21SPEAKER_02: It's either they have it or they've got somebody who can because with me, I'm I'm obsessed with solution.
- 40:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 40:28SPEAKER_02: Whenever there's a problem, I feel there's a solution.
- 40:30SPEAKER_02: People contact me and say, Tajik, you're the A to Z girl.
- 40:33SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm thinking really.
- 40:34SPEAKER_02: So they're like, you know, if they're looking for something or they need some, I will always, if I can find it, I'll find someone who can find.
- 40:41SPEAKER_02: I'm one of the people that you say, like, I would not stop until I get the information or the answer.
- 40:49SPEAKER_02: So um, like again, I'm looking for those several you're when I'm on several people came up to me with like, I'm like, oh whoa, I'd uncover this.
- 40:58SPEAKER_02: I need to find someone that covers this.
- 41:01SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 41:01SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm I'm scouting for.
- 41:03SPEAKER_02: And that I'm gonna be scouting for that for the next one or two weeks.
- 41:06SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 41:07SPEAKER_02: So it's something I'm focusing on now because I'm realising the urgency.
- 41:10SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
- 41:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:11SPEAKER_04: So just to clarify, in terms of the people who've currently got a minimum of a million turnover, and you guys have got the money set up to obviously invest in them even more, it as you just said.
- 41:24SPEAKER_04: So what just I'm trying to get out of you, how can we?
- 41:28SPEAKER_02: I can't mention the bigger project, reason why this is no um it's like uh there's NDAs, a lot of stuff involved now.
- 41:35SPEAKER_02: But if they get to meet me and I heard the project, I would release that information to them.
- 41:40SPEAKER_04: Okay, so people will just just contact you.
- 41:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, they'll tell me whatever your idea is.
- 41:45SPEAKER_02: Whatever the idea is, I will listen and see if it qualifies.
- 41:49SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 41:50SPEAKER_02: Because I'm the first contact, so um, I make notes, I observe the person's character, I ask some questions because I'm trying to check who I'm dealing with.
- 41:58SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 41:58SPEAKER_02: I would like to I also would check to see if the person's greedy, because that's another thing that you can tell.
- 42:03SPEAKER_02: Someone's greedy, that's not a nice person.
- 42:05SPEAKER_02: Um, do they get along with people?
- 42:07SPEAKER_02: I just ask all these little questions to see if they are a suitable human being to be put forward to um the next stage.
- 42:15SPEAKER_02: When I decided this is great, I would then introduce them to the team.
- 42:21SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 42:21SPEAKER_02: And then the team, they have really high um like you know, expectation.
- 42:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 42:27SPEAKER_02: So that whoever whoever I put forward, they feel it's a good catch.
- 42:32SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 42:33SPEAKER_02: So I have to make sure I keep my reputation.
- 42:36SPEAKER_02: So I can't just put anyone who doesn't fit the criteria, or you know, so I I look at the person like this person will fit, and I probably prompt prompt them, train them for the next meeting.
- 42:49SPEAKER_02: So I actually do give advice what they can do, how they should behave, how they should dress, so I do that.
- 42:55SPEAKER_02: I actually other people won't do that, but I actually train them, make sure that they're ready so that so already they have like a certain image, which I know they want.
- 43:06SPEAKER_02: I mean we want, but they want.
- 43:08SPEAKER_02: You've mentioned that you're a serial networker.
- 43:10SPEAKER_02: I know, I always call myself that.
- 43:12SPEAKER_04: I know it sounds terrible, serial, but yeah, yeah.
- 43:15SPEAKER_04: But it's good, and there's definitely a power in networking.
- 43:19SPEAKER_04: Um, how how did you get to the point of be the serial networker?
- 43:22SPEAKER_04: Because as you can imagine, a lot of as we've mentioned earlier, a lot of our people know they need to network, but they're frightened, they're scared, and just don't for any whatever reason.
- 43:31SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 43:32SPEAKER_04: So you see obviously see the benefits in that.
- 43:34SPEAKER_04: How did you get there?
- 43:36SPEAKER_02: I realize the importance of meeting people because I mean I've done it like a whole week I decided okay, I'm not gonna do nothing, I'm not gonna meet nobody, I'll do everything from home.
- 43:46SPEAKER_02: It's good.
- 43:48SPEAKER_02: You can network online also, but I always say it's very important to meet people in person.
- 43:52SPEAKER_02: You don't know how because even these these investors, that's how I met them.
- 43:56SPEAKER_02: I went to an art exhibition and I an art, I'm a painter and You know, so people should try everything.
- 44:01SPEAKER_02: Just go to art exhibitions, go to open mic events, go to as many events as possible.
- 44:08SPEAKER_02: You don't know who you would meet.
- 44:09SPEAKER_04: It's so true.
- 44:10SPEAKER_02: And I would say uh this is how you can start off with for little, just start off little.
- 44:15SPEAKER_02: Start off with one event a week to attend.
- 44:17SPEAKER_02: That's a lot for some people, you know.
- 44:20SPEAKER_02: No, but then one is really and you know what sometimes somebody can do?
- 44:23SPEAKER_02: If you're so scared of going to an event, try and team up with a friend.
- 44:27SPEAKER_02: They okay, you make friends with some people who attend events.
- 44:31SPEAKER_02: So you might have friends or business contacts or people you know or or or uh or work colleagues that go to events.
- 44:39SPEAKER_02: Make be make friends with them and try because sometimes it's hard you know when you first do networking, the first time when I was doing it, I had to go with other people and know other people there just to give give me some sort of confidence.
- 44:53SPEAKER_02: And then after a while, I just thought, oh, because some of them say, Oh, sorry, I've changed my plan, I got this.
- 44:58SPEAKER_02: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna start doing by myself.
- 45:01SPEAKER_02: So start with collaborating with other people, like working with your work colleagues, it could be work colleagues, it could be family friends, you're into your pro you're into maybe entertainment, business, anything.
- 45:12SPEAKER_02: Your friends, your family members who are progressive.
- 45:15SPEAKER_02: I'm not because you've got family members, some I'm beautiful, some of them are regressive.
- 45:19SPEAKER_04: Something else going backwards in life.
- 45:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so progressive family members, if they've got um uh and then you've got your work colleagues, there's some people in your work who like you know that they're always going to events.
- 45:31SPEAKER_02: You can ask them, could I follow you to here, to your theatre?
- 45:34SPEAKER_02: So that's how you go.
- 45:36SPEAKER_02: Just do that first, because it might be hard doing it by yourself, because going by yourself is like a real hard motivation.
- 45:42SPEAKER_02: And then as time progresses, you can start going by yourself.
- 45:45SPEAKER_02: But what I recommend is trying if you're brave enough, go to the big exhibitions like Excel Centre.
- 45:52SPEAKER_02: We're talking about London.
- 45:53SPEAKER_02: So um, I don't know if this show goes worldwide in there.
- 45:56SPEAKER_02: So wherever you are in the world, check your exhibition centres.
- 46:00SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 46:01SPEAKER_02: Um, go online, check for your exhibition centres.
- 46:04SPEAKER_02: They would give you different events all year round.
- 46:09SPEAKER_04: Share with people the value of networking now.
- 46:11SPEAKER_02: The value of networking, I've met some serious business contacts accidentally.
- 46:17SPEAKER_02: Like sometimes you'll be surprised.
- 46:19SPEAKER_02: You go to an event and you don't know you you sit next to somebody who has assets up to 100 ml.
- 46:26SPEAKER_02: They don't look like, I'm not saying they don't look like, it's just they dress very casual.
- 46:30SPEAKER_02: And then you introduce yourself, say, oh, I'm looking for this and so and so, and they'll be like, Oh, um, how much is your business worth?
- 46:35SPEAKER_02: Oh, my business worth like okay, why are you here?
- 46:39SPEAKER_02: They themselves are observing.
- 46:41SPEAKER_04: I hear you, but I think in terms of like my own experience in networking, um, I try not to I know it's a label and it's for everybody to understand what we're talking about, but I feel like sometimes the actual work the word in itself can be quite intimidating to people.
- 46:56SPEAKER_04: Do you think so?
- 46:57SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 46:57SPEAKER_02: Well intimidate when you hear someone I've I've dealt with people who have asked I mean they're worth 10 billion.
- 47:03SPEAKER_02: I think I didn't feel intimidated by that.
- 47:05SPEAKER_04: But remember, networking is beyond just like your field specifically is you're going to go and meet people who's got money who they want to invest and share with other people.
- 47:14SPEAKER_04: But obviously, people network for different reasons, you know, like like for me, obviously now produce producing and doing whatever I need to do with the documentaries and things.
- 47:21SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go to film and TV networking.
- 47:24SPEAKER_04: I'm not I'm I'm networking for different reasons basically, and and whatever industry someone's in, they're networking for that.
- 47:31SPEAKER_02: Okay, I think what people can do to put themselves out of a zone, okay, you are a film person, you do editing.
- 47:37SPEAKER_02: Why not go to a solicitor's network?
- 47:39SPEAKER_04: You know why you No, yeah, because it's whatever you're looking for specifically, you'd then go to an accountant's network and go and find accountants, then blah blah etc.
- 47:46SPEAKER_02: But I think what I noticed about some people, some professionals stick too much to their professional group.
- 47:51SPEAKER_04: No, because you just go for what you're looking for, so you're absolutely correct.
- 47:55SPEAKER_04: But even just the fact of saying that, there's people who are watching this right now who didn't even know that.
- 48:00SPEAKER_04: That's something we would take for granted, yeah, because we've just been doing business for a long time.
- 48:05SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it's good to go to a network that's completely out of your field.
- 48:10SPEAKER_02: Because when you go there, you're the one who's the top dog.
- 48:13SPEAKER_02: In the sense so you you go to uh a property networking event, yeah, and you're a accountant or a solicitor.
- 48:22SPEAKER_04: Everyone there could be your client.
- 48:24SPEAKER_04: Because they won't leave an accountant, it makes sense, and that's like all the technique in itself.
- 48:29SPEAKER_02: Uh there's an architecture networking event, and then a proper developer got in saying, like, just mix it.
- 48:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 48:35SPEAKER_02: Because sometimes if you go to a film film film one's got the one, I think I showed you one, that one's got some investors in there.
- 48:41SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 48:43SPEAKER_03: I'm going, I've registered.
- 48:44SPEAKER_03: Oh, you're great.
- 48:45SPEAKER_03: 100%.
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: But I was gonna say, some people are unlucky when you go to some network where you've got the same people, especially the creative industry.
- 48:52SPEAKER_02: The problem with that is that you just like you I mean you can't really um I can say, okay, there's a there's an arts artists group.
- 49:02SPEAKER_02: You notice how they don't promote artists to go as a networking, and if you go online, you go Invent Bright, you don't see a networking event for artists to come and meet each other.
- 49:11SPEAKER_02: They do exhibitions, right?
- 49:13SPEAKER_02: But they don't do networking because they they the thing about it is they can't really learn of each other.
- 49:19SPEAKER_02: Because remember, they're all creatives.
- 49:20SPEAKER_02: Well, unless they don't do collaboration, I guess.
- 49:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's another thing uh that you just mentioned, they don't encourage them.
- 49:26SPEAKER_02: That's another thing, and that's that's where the universities play their part.
- 49:30SPEAKER_02: They have done a massive part in not really promoting financial literacy.
- 49:35SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, that's true.
- 49:36SPEAKER_02: In not just in the education system, but in universities.
- 49:39SPEAKER_02: 100%.
- 49:40SPEAKER_02: I I remember years ago, I was saying to people that you know they need to, even someone was saying it, people have been talking about there needs to be a business hub in every university.
- 49:48SPEAKER_02: So they should I don't understand, they encourage people just to uh go to university to work for the system when actually though those university graduates are what these big corporations need to make their body to exist.
- 50:02SPEAKER_02: What's wrong in training them to become because remember the the student loans a lot, it's not it's not cheap.
- 50:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so why not encourage them to be earning 100k or a million?
- 50:12SPEAKER_02: Let's use that's the aim that should be doing it.
- 50:14SPEAKER_04: But as we know, the whole system is rotten.
- 50:17SPEAKER_04: It's outdated.
- 50:19SPEAKER_04: The whole system's rotten from primus to nursery all the way.
- 50:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 50:23SPEAKER_02: Because even I find it straight to an update.
- 50:30SPEAKER_02: So let's say you've got your name written down, and each of your name you say positive words.
- 50:34SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, uh like T for totalitarian, oh, for organized.
- 50:40SPEAKER_02: Like every child should have a you know your name and then a positive word.
- 50:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but we do we know the curriculum's just yeah, so only the parents need to reboot.
- 50:49SPEAKER_02: But the do parents know that because most people produce children, then they have no clue of about life.
- 50:54SPEAKER_02: We're listening.
- 50:57SPEAKER_04: No, no, it's it's it's it's fair that you say that because I literally, as I went out to dinner last night with one of my previous um podcast guests, Nahda, and we was literally talking about the same thing in terms of the parenting because you can't be in the space of just blaming school and blah blah blah.
- 51:15SPEAKER_04: As we all know, education starts at home, so it's like please, what are you doing as a start and then contributing to whatever's happening outside for conversational episode for other days?
- 51:28SPEAKER_02: I know, I know, terrible, terrible, terrible done like just have a child and don't even have no plan in place.
- 51:35SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, I really don't stand it.
- 51:39SPEAKER_02: But um they I think parents even should be trained, like there should be projects for parents because we're not gonna do it.
- 51:44SPEAKER_04: There is Nahanda, as I've just said, you know what?
- 51:47SPEAKER_04: I think because we've just mentioned her twice in the space of a minute.
- 51:49SPEAKER_04: Wow, I'm gonna it's somewhere within this part of the video, I'm gonna add a link to connect to her um her episode.
- 51:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that would be great.
- 51:57SPEAKER_02: There's uh more people need to train parents.
- 51:59SPEAKER_02: A lot of parents don't know what to do.
- 52:02SPEAKER_02: And uh I think children change when they turn like when they reach secondary school, especially if they go to a mixed school.
- 52:08SPEAKER_02: That that's a bit of but um I think there must be like there's more programs because it's weird, these younger children.
- 52:16SPEAKER_02: I think they don't even there's not there's not been much investment even on their cartoons, on their toys.
- 52:22SPEAKER_04: I think the millennials we lot got really spots with different toys, different cars, very it's very child, the child's moments very much impacting them because it's like even I was they've got depression, I was watching definitely, and I was watching something from um a psychologist literally a few days ago, and it's unfortunate that then the younger generations coming through now sadly are not more intelligent than they're not, and in for eons it's always been children are more intelligent than their parents, and literally from Gen Z onwards, no, that there's actually regression, and it's it's a shame.
- 53:00SPEAKER_04: So the women that's quite sad, you know.
- 53:02SPEAKER_04: They're looking into it because they're like, what happened in 2010, in 2010, what happened for this to start happening, and it's when they've started to bring in more technology into the schools.
- 53:13SPEAKER_04: Oh, they're doing predictive text, they're not they're not basically writing things for the certain levels that was contributing to um our cognitive abilities and seconds.
- 53:23SPEAKER_02: Also, they don't do much sports, I know today.
- 53:24SPEAKER_04: And their bodies It's across the board, their body shape is a bit different, it's across the board, so their mind is not getting used in that type of way, so I guess their mind's getting more lazy, so it's obviously gonna have uh adverse effects that's just gonna it's just gonna be ripple effects now, beyond and we and we see that now, yeah, and it's actually proven.
- 53:43SPEAKER_04: And psychologists are seriously having to go hard in looking into what's going on.
- 53:48SPEAKER_04: So as much as we appreciate all the technology and blah blah blah.
- 53:51SPEAKER_02: But I think with millennials we came from manual to like we there was so much changes in our time.
- 53:57SPEAKER_02: We had the we had the Lehman brothers crash, remember that?
- 53:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there's so much problem that had happened, and we just had to pick ourselves up and we're the last generation to see the major shift in humanity.
- 54:09SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we're we're the bridge basically, so we know the analogue life more so, but we've also had to adjust to the more digital life, yeah.
- 54:21SPEAKER_04: So we've actually got reference from both sides of life, so we that's actually empowering for us because we can translate people from both sides.
- 54:31SPEAKER_02: Wow, wow, I see that that's beautiful, you know what I mean?
- 54:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but at the same time, it's like for the youngsters coming through now.
- 54:36SPEAKER_02: That's so sad.
- 54:37SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 54:38SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's like even though we it's something that it's very strange, I don't know if there's gonna be ever a way to change it.
- 54:45SPEAKER_04: We've just gone down the rabbit hole of digital now to the point where it's now coming into AI now.
- 54:50SPEAKER_02: So it's like because because New James Either one they don't want I mean, I could talk, I don't want to drive.
- 54:55SPEAKER_02: They know that they want to get cars that just no driverless cars go pick you up.
- 55:00SPEAKER_04: It's wild to me.
- 55:01SPEAKER_04: I mean there's such a life skill in driving.
- 55:04SPEAKER_04: I appreciate like I'm a happy passenger, yeah, but also appreciate the fact that I have the skill to drive.
- 55:10SPEAKER_04: I've had it for a long time as well.
- 55:12SPEAKER_04: There's an empowerment in driving, so many young people come through my family.
- 55:16SPEAKER_04: I'm Auntie Leisha's encouraging you to go and get the driving licence, whether you use it or not, go and get it because it's also adding, as you just said, your cognitive skills.
- 55:24SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you're having to not only learn highway codes, etc., read the room.
- 55:28SPEAKER_04: Your never level of awareness in keeping yourself safe on the road, and not just you safe, it's everybody else around you.
- 55:35SPEAKER_04: You're reading your environment, you're reading the instrument that is your car, etc.
- 55:39SPEAKER_04: etc.
- 55:40SPEAKER_04: So sorry if I can't support you on that.
- 55:42SPEAKER_04: Oh no, it's good, it's good because everyone needs to learn how to drive.
- 55:45SPEAKER_04: I'm not encouraging more cars on the road, don't take it from them.
- 55:49SPEAKER_02: It's a skill everyone shouldn't.
- 55:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, everyone's got the butt me, I've got there's some learn to drive.
- 55:55SPEAKER_02: No, but you know what's funny?
- 55:57SPEAKER_02: Um, I I because um so I'm kind of adventurous because I go to all these different uh meet uh networking events in different parts of London.
- 56:07SPEAKER_02: That's another thing I was gonna say, people need to sometimes move out of their comfort zone.
- 56:12SPEAKER_02: So I know what I find strange is do you notice it?
- 56:16SPEAKER_02: Are Newban people like they'll some of them be in like Southwark and then they don't leave South.
- 56:22SPEAKER_04: It's not just Southwark, I literally was having this conversation the other day.
- 56:24SPEAKER_04: People don't leave their ends.
- 56:25SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying, they don't leave the ends.
- 56:27SPEAKER_02: Well, and then they borrow leave now that they're two, three miles.
- 56:30SPEAKER_02: People don't leave their ends.
- 56:31SPEAKER_02: You need what people need to that's another thing, because it doesn't have to be as far as going to the networking events just to open your mind, is just traveling to another borough or maybe sometimes going outside London.
- 56:41SPEAKER_02: Because I've lived outside London for like four years, yeah, and just doing things like that that can completely change your absolutely or going to another country, absolutely, environment's everything, and you pick up so much gems.
- 56:52SPEAKER_04: I think one of the most valuable things to do in life is travel a hundred percent.
- 56:57SPEAKER_04: You mean so many you you encounter and you experience so many beautiful things from traveling.
- 57:03SPEAKER_04: Me, very intelligent people, so and the thing that I always say because I've done so much traveling in this lifetime, is you actually for me personally, I can't speak for anybody else.
- 57:13SPEAKER_04: I have encountered so many beautiful and wonderful humans in this world, and I can definitely say, in terms of my encounters, I've met more good people than bad because I thought you know what's funny.
- 57:26SPEAKER_02: There's more good people than I've got to be able to do that.
- 57:27SPEAKER_02: Well, I believe there's bad I what I believe really is that humans are good.
- 57:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they are good, majority are good, they'll they'll they all got good in them, yeah, but some choose it's a choice.
- 57:37SPEAKER_02: A hundred percent they choose, some choose to be bad either for power or for just something which is not but and then when some of them when they realise the direction they've gone is too late, it's not too late, man.
- 57:51SPEAKER_02: You can change it around in the world of until you close your eyes in the world of the drug world, and sorry, I have to put that in the world of that world, it's there's no it's cutthroats, it's some some industry, there's no forgiving.
- 58:02SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying there's there's no like turning back.
- 58:04SPEAKER_02: As soon as they get in, is like they've made it off, and that is it, it's written in blood, and that that is they're finished.
- 58:14SPEAKER_04: So I so sometimes I would say don't even join or get involved in prevention's better than cure, but there's so many people who have done what you've just mentioned, gone and thought about their life and existence, turning it around and now reaching back into the community to do better in their life, you know, and the there's certain people who because they have a lived experience of what you just mentioned, they can then go and connect and provide guidance to people who may still be doing whatever they're doing and can contribute to turning it around for them.
- 58:53SPEAKER_02: Again, it's up to the hum the individual if they want to listen to listen.
- 58:57SPEAKER_02: If they're gonna listen.
- 58:59SPEAKER_02: Because you can tell there's a lot of reformed criminals.
- 59:05SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what to say.
- 59:06SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, there's reformed criminals, but there is, there is.
- 59:08SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna say there's not, but I'm just saying the other problem is I don't think they do enough in place to because okay, someone's in prison, there's a prison service.
- 59:18SPEAKER_02: Okay, um in America I think they do other stuff.
- 59:21SPEAKER_02: When I heard what the Americans did, they allow them to get education, they probably even allow them to start a business.
- 59:26SPEAKER_02: The problem is the system here, it's just like the the school and the prison is if you look at the way it's even set up, it looks like each other.
- 59:35SPEAKER_04: Well, isn't that what um to mention names Dr.
- 59:39SPEAKER_04: Umar Johnson would mention the the school to prison pipeline?
- 59:43SPEAKER_04: That's how it's set up, according to him, you know.
- 59:46SPEAKER_02: No, but it's true.
- 59:47SPEAKER_02: The way they do the dinner tables, everything is all this is it.
- 59:51SPEAKER_04: So therefore, is it a manifestation?
- 59:54SPEAKER_04: Is it if you've been set up to a point where they're like that is that is your journey?
- 59:59SPEAKER_04: If it's replicating it, if it's that's how you're set up from your when you're little, is it a level of spiritual expectation for you to do your latter days then?
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_02: But but if you set up something like that, you don't expect someone to have a spiritual expectation at all.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_04: Well, this is it, and this is a pro this is a huge problem that many people are talking about and discussing because we see the reality of that, and unfortunately it's put more so on our people, as I said, put on our people, but then that's another conversation in itself.
- 1:00:28SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, you know, you know the whole process, what is that's what people understand?
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_02: It's it's about energy harvesting, and this is I'm going to a different thing.
- 1:00:35SPEAKER_04: No, I I agree.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_04: And then I totally understand what you're saying.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_02: They harvest energy from the they're starting from a younger nursery, harvest it in the school system, then they harvest it even in all religious organizations, they harvest it there.
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_02: The government does it, even the work system does it, even family members do it, they do that also.
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_02: Like, especially if you got the brains and they're just sucking out all the you know energy.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_02: But the thing is that you have to know yourself because as soon as you know yourself, you protect nothing can touch you.
- 1:01:06SPEAKER_02: 100%.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_04: But that also just to kind of spin right back to the networking as well, that I find that that's the difference as well in a level of confidence for people who may have a fear because when you know yourself or you know you're doing something that's of value and a of a great contribution, yeah, you don't mind going and talking to network and networking with people and telling them about it because there's a different level of self-esteem that you're walking with.
- 1:01:31SPEAKER_04: Whereas if you're somebody who's just on a little bit of a on a wish, um, and you're then walking into a room where you know people will see through whatever you're about to say, yeah, that's gonna you're gonna walk in with a different energy, basically.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_02: I I would say it it is kind of strange because you're right, when you go to a networking event, they are gonna be vultures, and if you show a sign of weakness, the vultures would, you know, say, Oh, that's my parade.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_02: So when I do go to events, I'm not make maybe because I carry myself as confident.
- 1:02:07SPEAKER_02: I don't see I mean I see the vultures, but they don't approach me.
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_02: So because I've set a certain bar, but now these days when I go to some events, I can't really tell everyone what I'm doing.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_02: I have to ask I have to like ask them.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_02: Because before my before I was doing all these huge projects, I was what's your name?
- 1:02:28SPEAKER_02: And it was funny, but I was starting to engage with the what business world, especially ne especially when you go to the business one, is how they were just going there to pick, you know, like you say, uh pick when you someone calls you and say, Let me pick your brain.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Oh my gosh, these people are not even coming here to really do business, they're just coming here to pick brains.
- 1:02:47SPEAKER_02: Literally.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_02: So I stopped attending the business events more.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_02: I started attending the generic ones, the more like the fintech ones, uh property, investment, architectural, all the other ones which are not business, because it was now clear that the business ones were just becoming a bit flawed because you had a lot of people coming to events, especially our Nubian people, coming to events, no business, nothing righteous, no ideas, just come to listen to what you're saying you're doing.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_02: They say, Okay, you know what, you tell you if you can do that, I can do that.
- 1:03:15SPEAKER_02: And I'm thinking, you don't even know what the idea can tell.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_02: I'm just coming for inspiration, I guess.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's let's let's think it positive, let's move positive.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_02: Let's say positive.
- 1:03:25SPEAKER_02: But I'm just saying the business ones are now so saturated, yeah, that you have to go to um completely different industry from me.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm dealing with now.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, fair enough.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_02: But that's the best option.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_02: I would say whatever interest you have, go for it.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_02: But if you want to do something just completely opposite, it's even better.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_02: Like I mentioned, uh videographer goes to a networking of um solicitors.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_02: They're all we need videos.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_02: This is it.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_02: That's a potential so that's a smart move.
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_02: That's a very smart move.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:03:55SPEAKER_04: And what was the other the other trick in terms of networking events?
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_04: Is when you're talking to people, don't approach people with whatever it is you're selling.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_04: So whatever your business is you're selling.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_02: Try and find out about them.
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_04: There you go.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_02: Try and not because people want you to be intrigued by intrigued by them.
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_04: Well, definitely, and then also start with how can you help them, how can you help them, yeah, rather than this is what I do, and just sell, sell, sell, sell, sell.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_04: You're not gonna get very far.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_02: I think the only way you can really sell now is if you do one trick I can give people if you go to directory um pages, there's a section where you can contact businesses directly directly.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_02: So if you have a business and you're really like, okay, you know what, I need to get new clients, I would recommend um I know it sounds crazy, like 50 to 100.
- 1:04:44SPEAKER_04: Is that new, touch okay?
- 1:04:46SPEAKER_04: No, it's not new.
- 1:04:47SPEAKER_01: That's doing on yellow pages, my girl.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go go go on yell.com, wherever country is that and then message them, hi, my name is traditional.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_02: You don't believe it, the traditional method is still the best.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_02: So I would recommend if you're really serious about business, say, okay, this week I'm gonna contact 500 businesses.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_02: So do that, and you'll be surprised, even if you don't get much context, but I would say that you they will reply, yeah, and you use a relation and then you get a customer from there.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_02: So that's really the old method, and uh the old method still works.
- 1:05:18SPEAKER_02: Because I told someone about it in this.
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_02: And if you don't want to do it yourself, hire someone fiver, find somebody else to do it.
- 1:05:25SPEAKER_02: I saw those people that don't do work to the best party, always rubbish.
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_02: Or go wherever then, sorry.
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_04: Or maybe find a few.
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_04: Try to find a freelancer who would do it for you.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_04: There you go, student.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_04: There you go.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_04: Because that's also helping the next generation and the student would do it for you.
- 1:05:41SPEAKER_02: So delegating.
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's another thing with delegating.
- 1:05:45SPEAKER_02: That's that's actually uh one of the business modules people don't do, they do everything themselves.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_04: And then burn themselves out.
- 1:05:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:05:53SPEAKER_04: Well, you know what?
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_04: I think all these things that we've touched on, this is I I believe contributes to why, as I said.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_04: Spin right back to the beginning of this um episode as to some of the challenges as to why some of our people don't start business because it can be overwhelming and there's so many moving parts, there's so many things that are you know involved that some people just like oh my gosh, I don't know what to do.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_04: I've got this passion or love for something, I want to do it, but blah.
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_02: No, but basically I mean things have changed now because there's much because of internet and social media, there's so many groups.
- 1:06:29SPEAKER_02: So if you're based in London, I will recommend anyone to go to Grow London.
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_02: Just search, go to Google, go to Grow London, and you they offer free business consultation to all businesses, they can give you from A to Z what you need to do.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_02: They can help you with funding, everything.
- 1:06:45SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
- 1:06:46SPEAKER_02: So uh London has got that, but I'm sure they have the same thing in all different cities, not just in UK but all over the world.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_04: What would they search to find it in other places?
- 1:06:56SPEAKER_02: I I don't know where they'll search, but all I'll say is search for a free business consultation in whatever your city is where you're based in, and there will be organizations by is either run by the government or your local mayor or it's run by an independent entrepreneurial company that will offer free advice because they do want people to start businesses because you know when a country has a lot of entrepreneurs, it helps the economy.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_02: It also helps the G helps the GDP.
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_02: Why do you think places like Dubai and Monaco and Switzerland help have uh tax havens, like you know, where you can hide your money?
- 1:07:34SPEAKER_02: Because they understand the importance of those who have wealth help to build the economy.
- 1:07:38SPEAKER_02: Some countries don't really have anything, right?
- 1:07:40SPEAKER_02: It's the population that's helping them to look good.
- 1:07:44SPEAKER_02: They've got a quality population.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_02: So tourism.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_02: Tourism is a big thing, that's it.
- 1:07:49SPEAKER_02: But I don't know UK, the way UK is going and the whole It's a facade.
- 1:07:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the whole uh left right wing like didn't.
- 1:07:58SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying UK has great PR on the world stage, you know.
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_04: It's for what's put out into the world to what we have to live and experience is two different things.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_04: Stories for other days.
- 1:08:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it's like I just I just think it's so stupid because people are promoting a right wing ideology which is not gonna benefit none, nobody, not even those who vote for it.
- 1:08:22SPEAKER_02: It wouldn't even benefit because they're also gonna realize that they are gonna get discriminated themselves.
- 1:08:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:08:27SPEAKER_02: So they're thinking they're gonna just look what happened with the United States.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_02: They thought it would discriminate a specific group, but actually this the law is discriminating them.
- 1:08:37SPEAKER_02: This is it.
- 1:08:38SPEAKER_02: So those of the you I know you're listening out there, you know people who are involved in such right-wing ideology.
- 1:08:44SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna benefit anybody.
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_02: It only benefits those running the system.
- 1:08:49SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_02: Everybody else is gonna lose.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_02: Everyone, everyone will lose.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_02: But what they're gonna do is gonna control your movements, control everything.
- 1:08:56SPEAKER_02: That's it, and your you know, finance that control that also.
- 1:09:00SPEAKER_04: So hey, that's a topic for other days.
- 1:09:04SPEAKER_02: But why are they doing that?
- 1:09:05SPEAKER_02: Well, don't worry, we're pre we're preparing some you know offshore accounting.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_04: So to close, what final what would you like to finally say?
- 1:09:18SPEAKER_04: What would you like to leave the viewers with?
- 1:09:21SPEAKER_02: Okay, what I would finally say is that everyone should try and question not just themselves but question other people.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_02: Um if somebody said they have a job, and especially if they're under the age of 55, you should say something like, Is that all?
- 1:09:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I had so you won't believe it, what made me to be more pushy by myself.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_02: Um, I've got a lot of Canadian and American friends, and I used to tell them, Oh, this is what I do, and they used to tell me, Is that all?
- 1:09:48SPEAKER_02: And I thought, first of all, when I heard that question, my heart was oh, but then I realized I had to sit to one day sit down and literally think to myself, what they're saying is actually right, you know.
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_02: I know I can do a lot, I'm not doing enough.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_02: So it's like they're pushing you to the next level.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_02: You some of you have got amazing uh and also try and find stuff to do to try and make your life work life more easier.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_02: Because some people you some jobs allow you to do hybrid now.
- 1:10:15SPEAKER_02: Yes, so you can work from home or work in office.
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_02: Um, also, um, there are some self-help online tools that shows you have to make your day productive.
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_02: So if work is causing you a lot of stress and stuff, you might have to find ways of planning or doing stuff so that by the time you get to work, there's no stress, you know, like everything is done.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_02: Um, some people may need therapy, therapy also helps talking therapy, that helps a lot in this de-stressing yourself.
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, I would say what I would like to leave is taking action, you know.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_02: Oh, 100%.
- 1:10:49SPEAKER_02: So action is number one.
- 1:10:51SPEAKER_02: If you can take action, when I say action, you got an idea, you you it's in your head, stop hiding the idea and keeping yourself.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_02: Say, oh, you don't have to explain the whole idea, you're just gonna explain a few lines to some of your you can talk to your work colleagues about it.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_02: Say if you trust, I don't know, but there must be a manager in your workplace who is um progressive thinking, or a CEO in the company that likes people who have ideas.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_02: There's nothing wrong, because I had one lady, um, I think she said she did a exhibition promoting her goods.
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_02: Depends depends on it depends where you work, Mike.
- 1:11:26SPEAKER_02: I know, I know.
- 1:11:26SPEAKER_02: Depends where you work.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_04: I beg to do that, but anyway.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you know what, true, work is something else.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what you want to do, you want to go online and find those companies, organizations that offered free consultation or free advice, and then just start from there.
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_02: If you have an idea, I I suspect you take action now.
- 1:11:47SPEAKER_02: Because again, like I mentioned, we've got about four and a half years or maximum four years before they change the whole system, and they've shown I've already read in the protocol.
- 1:11:57SPEAKER_02: Yes, there's proven fact we can get out of this, right?
- 1:11:59SPEAKER_02: So, what they're trying to do is trying to separate human.
- 1:12:02SPEAKER_02: I mean, what are you trying to say?
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_02: We are advanced, yes, but some of us are acting on the lower level, right?
- 1:12:07SPEAKER_02: So, what they're trying to do on the lower level a lot a lot, they are the ones who are not making the money they make.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_02: Not making a a good contribution.
- 1:12:18SPEAKER_02: Their job is gonna be taking over AI.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_02: There's I think there's gonna be maximum five different roles that AI can't touch.
- 1:12:23SPEAKER_02: So there's only gonna be about five, maximum five or even six different roles AI wouldn't touch, but all the jobs AI would take over them because they said most of the jobs are repetition.
- 1:12:33SPEAKER_02: Repetitive the same thing, the same thing.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_02: Yes, there's no creativity or anything to it to do with it.
- 1:12:39SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:12:39SPEAKER_02: I think in the future most human beings will be entrepreneurs, they will be busy, they'll be business people.
- 1:12:43SPEAKER_02: That's the aim.
- 1:12:44SPEAKER_04: And this will we have people like you to encourage and help people with that?
- 1:12:47SPEAKER_04: So give thanks.
- 1:12:50SPEAKER_02: So in the future we have a large amount of entrepreneurs, uh, population will be more um middle, higher, you know.
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_02: I think it's gonna be a much more uh advanced system.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_02: But um, but in the same time, it's kind of sad they want to separate, it's gonna be a massive separation on income.
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_02: So the lower level is gonna be like it's almost like they're gonna be like a barcoded.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_02: Like oh wow, that's like that movie uh Matrix.
- 1:13:21SPEAKER_04: Almost like Matrix, yeah.
- 1:13:22SPEAKER_04: Is it in time as well?
- 1:13:24SPEAKER_04: Anyway, yeah.
- 1:13:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's something like that's what's gonna happen.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be like, oh, you are of this level.
- 1:13:30SPEAKER_02: So one of the things I had to do was organise uh monthly networking events so that I can get professionals and business owners to connect together.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_02: Plus, I share the information on you know, moving forward, I give tips on the links they need to get in touch with to forward their business.
- 1:13:46SPEAKER_02: Plus, the professionals are there on site, which can also help them.
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_02: Where can people find you?
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_02: Oh my days.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_02: Uh you can email me, but the email I'm gonna give is so long.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_02: Um so the email is NU New Evaluation, so evaluation, I shouldn't have spelled that.
- 1:14:03SPEAKER_02: Evaluation project.
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_02: So it's a new NU spell NU Evaluation Project at gmail.com.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_02: You can email the team with have a look at that.
- 1:14:13SPEAKER_02: And that is for if you want uh I'm offering 15 to 20 minutes free consultation, so I can guide you on.
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_02: I also do a business checklist, which like has like branded, like oh, have you got business card, logo, all the essentials your business need, I'll be ticking all that.
- 1:14:32SPEAKER_02: And if you don't have it, I've got a team that does all of that.
- 1:14:35SPEAKER_02: So um, and then uh if you want to contact me directly, because I'm also available, I'm very open to speak.
- 1:14:42SPEAKER_02: Um, it's 079 2078 0285.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_02: That's 079 2078 0285.
- 1:14:50SPEAKER_02: And it's a UK number plus 44 if you're not in this country.
- 1:14:55SPEAKER_02: So just message me, WhatsApp me, tell me what you are interested in.
- 1:14:59SPEAKER_02: Is it investment?
- 1:15:00SPEAKER_02: Do you want advice?
- 1:15:02SPEAKER_02: And then I will because I'm quite a busy person, so I'm always in business meetings.
- 1:15:05SPEAKER_02: I just manage to after you've got another business meeting.
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:09SPEAKER_02: So um then I would follow up to see how I can help you.
- 1:15:14SPEAKER_02: If I personally can't help, I'll find somebody who can help you to cover your whatever you're looking for.
- 1:15:19SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm always here to I'm I'm always about solution.
- 1:15:23SPEAKER_02: Because I think another thing we need to try and encourage people to do is they especially the new wing people, they focus too much on the problem, they need to start doing solutions.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_02: So we need to get them to do there, probably needs to be a workshop in place where there's there's something about problem and they come up with a solution.
- 1:15:39SPEAKER_02: So you have to realise every problem has a solution.
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_02: Should we leave that to you then?
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_02: Your show's doing it, your show's doing solutions.
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_01: That's my contribution.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, because I agree with you with the workshop, but I'm like.
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_02: I think somebody needs to like there's some people that's what they do as a career.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_02: They come up with strategy solutions stuff.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_02: I can speak to them.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_02: Please do.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_02: And say, let's let's work together and do a send them this way.
- 1:16:05SPEAKER_04: Oh true, true, you're right.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_04: This is it, yeah.
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_04: Well, thank you, Tato.
- 1:16:11SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much.
- 1:16:12SPEAKER_04: It's been just been insightful, it's been good, and um, yeah, and continue to do what you're doing because it's of great value.
- 1:16:20SPEAKER_04: We need people like you, and as you say, um the world's shifting.
- 1:16:25SPEAKER_04: So you're about to get seriously busy, I pray, I hope, you know.
- 1:16:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I I can feel it, I can feel there's people watching so much.
- 1:16:33SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be a lot of no, but it's good.
- 1:16:36SPEAKER_02: I had a podcast last week or something.
- 1:16:38SPEAKER_02: I've been having one nearly every week now.
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_02: It's good, crazy, crazy.
- 1:16:41SPEAKER_02: But I'm gonna have my own show, don't want to invite you to mine.
- 1:16:43SPEAKER_02: Or do we're in Croydon?
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_02: Will you travel?
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_02: I travel to Croydon.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_02: And there's one, I think I might have one in Canary Wolf, you know.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_04: So I'll go to Canary Wolf before I go to Croydon there.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_02: Oh look, yeah, yes, you're right, you're right.
- 1:16:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're right.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_02: You might like it.
- 1:16:56SPEAKER_04: Nice.
- 1:16:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
- 1:16:57SPEAKER_02: Well, great work.
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_02: I love the you know the layout and you know, I was I saw it online, I was like, hmm, am I seeing something?
- 1:17:07SPEAKER_02: When I came in person, I was like, oh, even better.
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_02: It's real!
- 1:17:10SPEAKER_01: It's not a green screen, it's real.
- 1:17:12SPEAKER_01: I actually thought it was this little thing, I actually thought it was a screen.
- 1:17:16SPEAKER_01: I said, this can't be a real place.
- 1:17:19SPEAKER_02: When I came in person, I was like, definitely to this that's a that's a skill you can treat teach people how to set up a podcast scenery.
- 1:17:27SPEAKER_04: I'm going to um actually start that as a service, yeah.
- 1:17:31SPEAKER_04: When I'm in this studio, yeah.
- 1:17:34SPEAKER_04: Um I'm gonna create other studios for other podcasts, but why don't we have some?
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_01: Let me know that.
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_01: I I not like ideas.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_01: Come on.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_01: I'm busy and booked out of this world.
- 1:17:45SPEAKER_01: That idea needs investment.
- 1:17:47SPEAKER_01: And I'm coming to you, so then you gonna use thanks.
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_02: I'll be like, okay, that we need okay.
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_02: How much money do you need?
- 1:17:53SPEAKER_02: How much do you need?
- 1:17:54SPEAKER_02: Okay, uh, okay.
- 1:17:56SPEAKER_02: I'll try and find a way.
- 1:17:57SPEAKER_02: It's not me, I'll find the contact that can do something, yeah.
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_02: That's good, that's good.
- 1:18:01SPEAKER_02: What's well?
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_04: Ah, another wonderful episode, brilliant episode.
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_04: Um, Tajika is doing major work that we definitely need in our community.
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_04: Um, this is what we need, especially with the shift that's happening now with AI, etc., and the the changes that we know are going to be announced, well are already being announced.
- 1:18:22SPEAKER_04: She's got a major service that she's doing and providing and give thanks, and we need to jump on it and actually use it.
- 1:18:29SPEAKER_04: So if you're starting a business, you're thinking about starting a business, definitely reach out to her.
- 1:18:34SPEAKER_04: She can help you not only with structuring your business, getting you registered, and doing all the admin part of it, but she can also get you.
- 1:18:42SPEAKER_04: The key thing to make sure you get started is the investment.
- 1:18:46SPEAKER_04: So, thank you for tuning in.
- 1:18:47SPEAKER_04: Let's keep the conversation going.
- 1:18:49SPEAKER_04: Talk to me in the comments, um, and also contact Taj.
- 1:18:54SPEAKER_04: We're here, let's do this, let's continue to take action, make a difference, not have to rely on other people and do things for ourselves.
- 1:19:03SPEAKER_04: So, on that note, stay blessed.