Latest / The Kink Consultant / Q&A With My Dom Part 2: What Makes a Good Dom?
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- 0:08It's a King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
- 0:11on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
- 0:14So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
- 0:17to it. We got a ton of questions on
- 0:24Instagram, so I'm gonna pull out to my favorites.
- 0:27What pleasure do you derive from being a Dom?
- 0:29I think that question basically means like, what do you get out
- 0:32of it? Because as I'm a switch, so I
- 0:34get both sides of it. But for a lot of people who just
- 0:36follow the subside, it's understandable to ask what the
- 0:39heck are you getting out of it? Because it's a lot of work for
- 0:42you. It's a lot of work for me, but
- 0:43also, I mean, you can make it to where the other person has to do
- 0:46a lot of work just to serve. If you have a service up.
- 0:49Yes, if you have a service up, and that's the hard part is for
- 0:52me our dynamic. You're not necessarily a service
- 0:55sub. I'm not necessarily a service
- 0:58Dom. I'm not necessarily a pleasure
- 0:59Dom. I'm not necessarily, like I
- 1:01said, I don't really label myself much at all.
- 1:03You probably label me a lot more than I label myself.
- 1:06I definitely do. Yeah, you have all the labels
- 1:08for me, it's fine. What other labels?
- 1:10I call you daddy. Yep.
- 1:12OK. You're the only person I will
- 1:14allow that to happen. So anybody else on there did not
- 1:16get that privilege, just FYI. Other people called you daddy
- 1:19though. They've tried.
- 1:21I don't like being called daddy just in a sexual term.
- 1:24Like if it's just in sex, like it just never did anything for
- 1:26me. It was more turn off than a turn
- 1:28on. I would tell girls like, hey,
- 1:29like, listen, I don't like that. And there was a girl that we
- 1:32were in the middle of having sex and she just decided right then
- 1:35and there to test my buttons, push the envelope a little bit.
- 1:38She's like, oh daddy, OK, done. Like I've told you multiple
- 1:41times today not to say that. You did.
- 1:44They passed the. Boundary.
- 1:45Yep. Literally pulled out, put my
- 1:46pants on wet in the other room, sat on the couch, started
- 1:49playing on my phone. She's like, really?
- 1:50I was like, yeah, I told you my limits.
- 1:52You push that limit, I'm done. I don't play those games.
- 1:55Did. You guys have sex again?
- 1:56No. Yeah.
- 1:57I don't like that. Someone push your boundary.
- 1:58You would never do that to me. That's the thing.
- 2:00We communicate so much that you would never just get up and
- 2:03leave. You also probably wouldn't push
- 2:04my boundaries in that way. Never.
- 2:06Yeah. Not on purpose.
- 2:07I've talked about this before. Sometimes you can accidentally
- 2:09call someone a nickname they don't want.
- 2:11What do you actually derive from being a Dom?
- 2:14Because it is so much work, What do you actually enjoy about it?
- 2:16The role you play in our dynamic.
- 2:18I find personal fulfillment in taking care of what's mine, and
- 2:22I do consider you mine the same way I consider me yours.
- 2:26Taking care of you, helping you, leading.
- 2:28Those kinds of things are things I find join fulfillment in.
- 2:33And then of course the physical side of things, there are
- 2:35definitely things like the power dynamic is something I would say
- 2:38is my biggest kink. Like they're as their biggest
- 2:41fetish even. Like it's the power to.
- 2:42Have power exchange for me. Like, that's fair, yeah.
- 2:46And so that by itself is the number one thing.
- 2:48That makes a ton of sense. You're very good at taking
- 2:51charge. I mean, I think that's another
- 2:53thing. What early on in our
- 2:54relationship we weren't even really in dynamic.
- 2:57We hadn't talked about it. But you just said we have to
- 2:59figure out your sleep thing because I do not sleep.
- 3:02I sleep maybe 4 hours sometimes and then other times I'll sleep
- 3:05maybe six hours. And you made it your personal
- 3:08mission to figure out how to get me to sleep more.
- 3:10That was a really caretaking thing that you did and you
- 3:12actually cared about it, which was nice.
- 3:14Still do, even though you're still a little punk ass
- 3:16Princess. No, you know what though?
- 3:17I want to talk about this for a second.
- 3:19You actually did an amazing job with that because I continued to
- 3:22not handle sleeping well and that directly affected our
- 3:26relationship in general. And you came up, you told me you
- 3:29wanted to talk about it and you had a solution that you thought
- 3:32would work with me because I work best at night and I love
- 3:35the solution. I just had to get 6 hours of
- 3:37sleep a day. It didn't matter when that six
- 3:39hours happen in a 24 hour period, I could nap, I could
- 3:42just sleep, take 3/2 hour naps and that counted as six hours
- 3:47and at least I was getting six hours.
- 3:48And I thought that was really thoughtful.
- 3:49Well, that's the thing when I say flexibility, guys, listen.
- 3:52Everything doesn't have to fit in a little box.
- 3:54It doesn't all have to be the same.
- 3:55Look at what works for your partner.
- 3:57Look at what works for you. This works for us.
- 3:59It doesn't mean I necessarily love it if she gets up in the
- 4:02middle of the night to go work because she can't sleep because
- 4:03I miss her in bed, but this is what works.
- 4:06This is what makes her brain tick.
- 4:08This is how she works the best, and when you support each other
- 4:11in the way you each work best, all of a sudden everything else
- 4:14just falls into place too. I can't deny that that is 100%
- 4:17true. How do you find a non judgmental
- 4:19kink friendly partner? The big thing is finding a non
- 4:22judgmental person in general. Start there, Find yourself a non
- 4:26judgmental person. If you find somebody and they're
- 4:27already judgmental, they're probably going to be a
- 4:29judgmental partner. Doesn't matter if it's king
- 4:31friendly or not. So the first thing is just
- 4:33finding a non judgmental person in general.
- 4:36Someone's asking where or how can I meet a true Dom?
- 4:39I want to experience being a sub properly, fully, but also
- 4:42safely. This is a really good question
- 4:44if you're just looking for experience and not in terms of a
- 4:50relationship by itself. You just want Dom sub style play
- 4:54and you're looking for a night, something casual, whatever.
- 4:58I would say check local dungeons, check local events and
- 5:02things like that. They have muncheons and brunches
- 5:05and things like that to where you can just go and talk to
- 5:08people without playing. Everybody stays fully clothed.
- 5:11It's a vanilla world meeting of kinky individuals.
- 5:14Get to know if you like somebody there.
- 5:15Go to those local events if that's all you're looking for.
- 5:18There are plenty of people out there in the world that are
- 5:21willing to do those things for you.
- 5:22Obviously dynamic is important in terms of whatever you are, no
- 5:26matter what it is. I say I have a relationship with
- 5:28everybody I meet. I have a relationship with the
- 5:30guy who bags my groceries. I have a relationship with the
- 5:32guy I walk past at the gas station.
- 5:34You know, everybody you have is in a dynamic or relationship.
- 5:37So whatever that dynamic relationship is, you have to be
- 5:40comfortable in whatever it is. So if you go out to those
- 5:42munches, make sure you have good vibes with a person.
- 5:45You don't have to play with anybody just because you want to
- 5:47play. Don't set your standards short
- 5:49just to. Have an experience.
- 5:51Have an experience? We've all done it.
- 5:52I mean that, not to shame anybody.
- 5:54I've been there, I'm sure. I know you've been there plenty
- 5:57of times. We've all.
- 5:58Plenty of times, we've all. Done it.
- 6:00Listen. Listen.
- 6:03I have not been there plenty of times, but yeah, I think early
- 6:06on definitely. I know, I know a lot of people
- 6:09have taken risks and played with people that they shouldn't have.
- 6:12And yes, myself included on that.
- 6:14Just have a need back. There's A at shirt out there
- 6:16that makes me laugh and it says my Dick has taken me places I
- 6:19wouldn't even go with a gun. And it makes me laugh a lot
- 6:22because I'm like, that was me and my young age.
- 6:24Like my Dick has taken me to places that I wouldn't even go
- 6:27with a gun. OK someone's asking how can I
- 6:30educate my Dom for him to behave like so?
- 6:32He's never tried BDSM before. I'm a switch.
- 6:35It's hard. I do believe that there is an
- 6:38innateness in us that if it's not there, it's never gonna
- 6:41fully be there. And I know that's hard to hear.
- 6:43It's just gotta, you just gotta live with it.
- 6:45There are certain things that you could ask for.
- 6:46I would limit it down. You can't ask somebody to be
- 6:49dominant in all courses of your life.
- 6:51However you want certain tendencies or things, limit or
- 6:54write those things out. Say, yeah, you help me with
- 6:56X&Y&Z. Praise them when they do good
- 6:59like that. Everybody does well with praise,
- 7:01including Doms. Like you don't have to not be
- 7:04praised or feel welcomed or something you've introduced me
- 7:08to is aftercare as a Dom. Like I don't have that
- 7:10experience in things, you know, where you say, what do you need?
- 7:13Like that wasn't something I had ever had before.
- 7:15So it's phrase. Oh yeah.
- 7:18I know I've said to you, what do you need?
- 7:19And you're like, you've been like, I don't know, that's like
- 7:22a new question, but I didn't know no one else had asked you
- 7:24that. Never, never had it.
- 7:26So it's one of those things like praise, positive affirmations
- 7:29and things, even just something like thank you.
- 7:31That's where I can tell what you're doing.
- 7:34Even if it's not 100% what you want, it's going to be coaching.
- 7:37So if you're trying to get somebody to do certain things,
- 7:39you have to be willing to help teach them, lead them, grow
- 7:42them. It's not just going to be an
- 7:43instant thing. And I know that's hard as a sub
- 7:46to take charge and lead in that way, but you have to lead
- 7:49through submissiveness I guess is the best way to say.
- 7:52It you also have to ask if they're willing to take on that
- 7:54right, Because you can't just force someone into it.
- 7:56And I think starting small, pick something small, whatever that
- 7:58dominant side you want, whether it's just in the bedroom,
- 8:00whether it's something you want in daily life, like hey, I want
- 8:03discipline in my daily life. Can we make one rule?
- 8:06Just make one simple rule. Did I drink my water today?
- 8:09Did I get out of bed in time? Did I make the bed this morning?
- 8:13Did IX and Y&Z, whatever those things are, set that one thing
- 8:17up. Ask them to stick to that one
- 8:18thing religiously. If you need structure in it, say
- 8:21hey, we both are home every night at six 30.
- 8:24We check in right then and there.
- 8:26Make it easy if you put something on the schedule and
- 8:28the more scheduled it is for most people, if you actually are
- 8:32able to do that with your schedules, the easier it is to
- 8:35keep up with. If your lives are hectic and
- 8:37everything else, obviously it gets harder, but it could even
- 8:39be a text message. You can even set a reminder on
- 8:42your phone too. That's what I have to do with my
- 8:44ADHD. If I've got something with you
- 8:45over distance, like I have to put reminders on my calendar to
- 8:49check in with you because my life gets hectic.
- 8:51We're not seeing each other all the time.
- 8:52And I will, I'll just say I I need to check in on this at the
- 8:55end of the week and I'll put it in there.
- 8:56I'll put it in a time I know I can ask you about it and it'll
- 8:59come up and I'll be, oh, yeah. It wasn't even clicking in my
- 9:01head yet, but I'll put a calendar reminder.
- 9:03It'll pop up and then boom, I'll be like, oh, I need to go talk
- 9:06to her about this. Oh.
- 9:07That's really good advice also I'm like on a high right now
- 9:09because I feel like a good sub because I ask you what aftercare
- 9:12you need. I'm glad you appreciate.
- 9:14That right? Shut up.
- 9:17She's not brownie at all though. Not at all.
- 9:20What do you do when you are tired or low energy and your sub
- 9:24is asking for a lot? So we've talked about this in
- 9:27our relationship. We haven't been there yet, but
- 9:30there have been times where we're just like we've agreed
- 9:33that we can pretty much pause the dynamic at any time in terms
- 9:37of, listen, I'm not feeling tonight, I'm off and the other
- 9:39person can say I'm off. Like if I come home and she's
- 9:42not wanting to be submissive that day or whatever, just
- 9:45headspace. Or if I'm not feeling dominant
- 9:47that day because my day just kicked my ass.
- 9:49We agreed that we can come home, be like, hey, can we just have a
- 9:52night off? Just be together, be a vanilla
- 9:54couple or, you know, even communicating and say, hey, I
- 9:57just need to be alone. I need space, I need whatever.
- 9:59Communication is the biggest thing.
- 10:00Yeah. If you're not feeling it, you
- 10:02don't have to force it. If you're in a respectful
- 10:04relationship, that person will understand.
- 10:06Now, you can't weaponize that. You know, I know a lot of people
- 10:10will sit there and like, I'm tired, my head hurts, whatever.
- 10:13You can't use that excuse all the time just to get out of your
- 10:15duties. To be a true Dom, you have to be
- 10:18consistent, show up all the time.
- 10:21If you can't show up, that's perfectly fine.
- 10:22You just have to communicate those things.
- 10:24I know you're really big on that rule, which is good because like
- 10:26same as being a sub, it's hard to be consistent as a sub.
- 10:30I think it's especially hard when you are not.
- 10:32There are times where I have to be a boss and be in charge of
- 10:35everything and then to come be submissive to you is really
- 10:38hard. Dom's in general, listen, you're
- 10:40submissive is going to have a lot harder time being submissive
- 10:44if you're inconsistent versus if you just stay consistent, even
- 10:48consistent in the way of saying like, hey, I'm not today.
- 10:51We need to pause this. That's consistent.
- 10:54But when you're on, you need to be on.
- 10:55You can't half ass it one way or another.
- 10:57And being that way, if you stay consistent, they will understand
- 11:01to remain consistent themselves. If you're wishy washy, they're
- 11:04going to be wishy washy. There's no way around it.
- 11:06That's a really great answer. Consistency is important to me
- 11:08and I've always said that I'm really bad.
- 11:11You're also so consistent in bringing that message.
- 11:14What do you think your biggest challenge is in being the dumb?
- 11:18Dealing with punk ass princesses.
- 11:19No, that is not, is it? No consistency.
- 11:23It's hard to be consistent in any part of your life, I think.
- 11:26100% any part of your life whether it's going to the gym,
- 11:29eating right, caring for yourself, whatever it is.
- 11:32Consistency is the biggest attribute you can have.
- 11:36If you can remain consistent any part of your life healthily.
- 11:39Consistently being unhealthy is not counting as consistent.
- 11:42Consistently not sleeping consistently not drinking water.
- 11:46No healthy consistent habits will change your life.
- 11:49Remaining consistent is one of the biggest things I'll tell you
- 11:52is. A challenge, but.
- 11:53Challenging part of it. But worth it.
- 11:55Oh 100% worth it. OK, if a Dom starts to develop
- 11:59feelings, can it be that he doesn't want to hurt me that
- 12:02much anymore? Yes, 1000%.
- 12:04OK, we talked about this before because I thought.
- 12:06She was surprised she didn't quite understand that at the
- 12:09time. No, I didn't understand it
- 12:11because I was like, well, you don't hurt me less now.
- 12:14That's true, I've always just hurt her the same.
- 12:16But what I learned is you didn't actually hurt me hard to begin
- 12:19with either because you are a sadist.
- 12:22I am more sadistic than you, more sadistic than you are
- 12:25masochistic. But I am slightly masochistic.
- 12:27Yeah, it's just a different levels and you have to.
- 12:30Different levels, different play styles, things like that.
- 12:33And yeah, we work together well on catering to those things.
- 12:37I think we both give and take in different ways.
- 12:39We do, and you can definitely stop, like those play styles may
- 12:43change as your feelings grow. The way you see somebody, hold
- 12:48somebody in your mind, value somebody, things like that could
- 12:51change how you play with somebody.
- 12:53There are friends that I've had in the past that as I got to
- 12:56know them, like our play style changed because the only time
- 12:59I'd want to play hard in certain things with them was for more
- 13:02real discipline styles and things like that.
- 13:04As we grew in yeah, deeper relationships, more meaningful
- 13:08relationships with each other. I didn't know about you until
- 13:11this person asked, so that was a really good question.
- 13:13Do you good? Job person.
- 13:14Yeah. What other rules do you have for
- 13:16me that you enjoy or think are important for a dynamic?
- 13:19I know it seems insignificant to other people, but making the bed
- 13:22is something for me. Every day you make the bed and
- 13:25it's one of those things that just starts the day.
- 13:28I don't know exactly what time you make the bed.
- 13:30Some days you may not make it till 3 or 4 or 5:00 in the
- 13:32afternoon because you know I'm gonna come home.
- 13:33You don't wanna be in trouble, but it just has.
- 13:35Me. Never.
- 13:36I know. But it has that submissive
- 13:39mindset to it of just that willingness to serve, to please
- 13:43into, you know, you're also respecting the space that you're
- 13:46in. We both do a good job of keeping
- 13:47the house clean and things like that and try our best overall.
- 13:50Like that's that one thing that's set up to where it's
- 13:52like, no, this is your job, your task, your way to be submissive
- 13:56and everything else in the relationship.
- 13:58And it really works well. I know it's a small way that I
- 14:00prove I'm consistent to. Yeah.
- 14:02And thinking of you, what do you do if you misjudge your Subs
- 14:05mood or needs? So it does happen.
- 14:08I mean, even with you, we've just had that discussion the
- 14:11other day. I'm like, listen, I'm still
- 14:12learning. What certain ways that you
- 14:14communicate and when you whine or ask not to or whatever about
- 14:18certain things, like if you misjudge, it's OK to say I
- 14:21misjudged, I was wrong. Can we communicate how this
- 14:24works better for the future and help me to understand what these
- 14:28things mean? It's also OK to ask in the
- 14:31middle of something like is this this or is this this?
- 14:33One of my favorite things, I don't even think I've used it
- 14:35with you before yet is if you were to tell me, hey, I'm gonna
- 14:38go get in the shower. Is this information or is this
- 14:40an invitation? Oh, you've definitely used that
- 14:42with me. OK, Yeah.
- 14:43Perfect. Is this just information or is
- 14:45this an invitation? Whatever.
- 14:47You're sitting there and you're trying to, you know, talk to me
- 14:49about something. I'm like, OK, are you just
- 14:50trying to vent or do you want a solution?
- 14:51That kind of communication, understanding the way somebody
- 14:54wants to communicate and everything else is the biggest
- 14:56thing. This hasn't happened us, but
- 14:58maybe it's happened to another. If you go in a deep subspace and
- 15:01cannot talk while in it, what can you do to communicate?
- 15:05That's kind of more of a question for me, but I don't go
- 15:07into such deep subspaces. I think if you know you're the
- 15:09type, you need to communicate what you want for yourself.
- 15:12It's sort of like I could go deep.
- 15:13I could. If you're someone who goes
- 15:15nonverbal, you need to communicate that before you go
- 15:17into it. Have you ever played with anyone
- 15:19who goes nonverbal? Yes, and there are ways to check
- 15:21in with people. One thing I used to do with
- 15:23people was I would, if their hands were in front of them,
- 15:25wherever their hands were, if they were kind of nonverbal, I
- 15:28would just put my finger in in the middle of their hand and let
- 15:30them squeeze. Like, hey, are we still here?
- 15:32Are we good? If the squeeze wasn't there,
- 15:34they're not there. We're going to slow things down.
- 15:36We're going to wrap it up. You also need to communicate how
- 15:38deeply you want to play before you get to that level.
- 15:41If you know you're not going to be verbal or you're going to be
- 15:43so deep in it, you don't want to come back out of that having
- 15:45been deeper than you wanted to be.
- 15:47So instigating that going into that.
- 15:49Obviously, if you're going to be that deep, you also need to be
- 15:51with somebody who you feel safe with and trust.
- 15:53That's not like a first time playing with somebody kind of
- 15:56thing. You know, you need to start
- 15:57slow, build trust, understanding all those kinds of things.
- 16:00But there are ways to communicate non verbally.
- 16:02And so one of them is, you know, for me, I would just put my
- 16:05finger in their hand, let them squeeze it, make sure there's
- 16:07something there. If I didn't feel like the
- 16:08intensity was there, like they're halfway there, I might
- 16:10give them a little squeeze back and then they kind of wake up a
- 16:13little bit like we good, OK, good, keep moving.
- 16:15Good answer. I'm glad you do that with
- 16:17people. We've never played to that
- 16:18level. I don't know if we ever will
- 16:20play to that level. I don't think we get that way.
- 16:22That's just not the way that. We play.
- 16:24Is there a difference for you between fem doms and male doms?
- 16:28In what sense? Question.
- 16:29For me, I think one of the biggest differences can be
- 16:32strength. Like you can rely on strength.
- 16:35And even when I am in a dominant role, I can't rely on strength.
- 16:38I have to rely. I rely on consistency of like I
- 16:42say, something's gonna happen and it happens as a way to
- 16:45enforce like this is how it is. I don't have a ton of experience
- 16:48with femdoms themselves. I think one of the big things is
- 16:51they do have to rely on different weapons than strength.
- 16:53So presence is a huge thing that I'm just a bigger guy.
- 16:57I carry presence by walking in the women traditionally aren't
- 17:00as big as men. They have to carry a presence
- 17:02differently in the couple parties.
- 17:04I've been doing things, I've seen those women that just walk
- 17:06in the room and they just they have a presence.
- 17:08I'm like, OK, that's one way they use it.
- 17:10Utilizing their mind and their mouth is a huge thing.
- 17:13Tone, the consistency of things, like you said, it's huge.
- 17:16You just stay with it. You don't allow certain things.
- 17:19Then that system. I mean, they're all mommy Dom
- 17:22types, but that maternal lecturing style of like, hey,
- 17:25no, cut your bullshit. That consistency.
- 17:28I've just cut the bullshit. Let's I would also say that
- 17:30typically femdoms don't give as easily to their submissives as
- 17:34male doms do. Male doms get coerced so quickly
- 17:37most of the time. But women especially.
- 17:38Cute women. They just cute women bat their
- 17:40eyelashes and whine a little bit and then they're like, oh, I'm
- 17:43sorry, baby. And no, you don't have that
- 17:45luxury. No I know, but also I know that
- 17:48the spankings I've gotten from women and punishments, they are
- 17:52less forgiving. There are no bullshit and I've
- 17:53talked about that before too. As a Dom, do you feel complete
- 17:56transparency is required in relationships?
- 17:59Yes and no. I believe complete transparency
- 18:01is important in all relationships.
- 18:03However, I also believe there's a trust in things that can be
- 18:06built and things like that to where if there was something,
- 18:09I'd be like, hey, I just talked to my good friend X&Y&Z.
- 18:12They're going through a hard time.
- 18:14I'd rather not tell you about it.
- 18:15That's fair. We've talked about that, yeah.
- 18:17If you need to know, I'll tell you.
- 18:19But if you can respect this, like the transparency is there
- 18:22in saying, I will share this with you if you really feel like
- 18:25it is, but I would appreciate if you would respect the privacy of
- 18:28me and this other person. And that's where the no comes
- 18:31in. The no comes in with you don't
- 18:32need to know everything. I don't need to know everything.
- 18:35You took a phone call earlier that you were talking to a
- 18:37friend, helping them through some stuff.
- 18:39And I don't know anything about that conversation because we
- 18:42just have that trust with each other.
- 18:43It's like, no, I don't need to know that.
- 18:45You don't need to tell me all those things.
- 18:46How do you seek to be supported by a sub?
- 18:50The same way I show up consistently.
- 18:52I would ask the same thing through a sub now.
- 18:54It's not always going to be the same.
- 18:56You haven't shown up consistently and things due to
- 18:58heads space and things. We both struggle with headspace
- 19:01at times. Frustration.
- 19:03That's the job of the leader is to pull you back into.
- 19:06But how do you pull yourself back in?
- 19:07It's hard. It can be hard sometimes.
- 19:09I try and pull you back in sometimes myself.
- 19:11I know you don't like phone calls, but I also know when I
- 19:13get you on the phone you will talk until you're exhausted.
- 19:17And I will be the one who's like, OK, I think we should hang
- 19:19up now because I don't want you to exhaust yourself either.
- 19:22That's the way I feel like I support you.
- 19:23OK? What makes the sub appealing
- 19:26when you're looking for someone to engage with?
- 19:28That's really hard to answer because you're asking in a broad
- 19:32sense. You know, I know what makes
- 19:33people appealing to me, but that's like saying what makes
- 19:36somebody appealing when you're trying to date.
- 19:37I'll tell you gotta go ahead. Someone who is thoughtful,
- 19:41someone who is strong minded. I want someone who has values.
- 19:46I honestly I might not agree with those values, but someone
- 19:49who has conviction you're. Not talking about when you're
- 19:50looking for a sub, you're talking about when you're
- 19:52looking for a dominant person. No, this is just a person in
- 19:54general. Right.
- 19:54But like. Person, I think that it's
- 19:56important for submissive too. There are conversations we've
- 19:58had where I'm like, Nope, this is a boundary for me and I will
- 20:02not cross this. And then you're like, OK, I
- 20:04support that. I think that I don't know if
- 20:06that was something you were looking for.
- 20:07No, I guess I just mean in general what I'm looking for a
- 20:10first sub. Should I answer specifically for
- 20:13a sub because. That's what the question.
- 20:14That is the question. But like that's because you're
- 20:16the Dom to engage with. I want someone who can listen
- 20:20and can engage in a conversation with me so they're paying
- 20:22attention to me and they're not just one track minded.
- 20:25I want someone focused and I'm looking for.
- 20:27That when engaging, it all depends on what level of play
- 20:30you're looking for. If you're looking for just a
- 20:31play partner, we can warrior type.
- 20:33If you're actually looking for somebody to date, obviously it's
- 20:36the same thing as dating. If you're looking for somebody
- 20:38just to go home for the night, if you're looking for somebody,
- 20:40something ongoing, if you're looking for somebody spend your
- 20:42life with, obviously what you're going to look for is different.
- 20:45Something that makes somebody appealing obviously is like
- 20:49interests. So if I'm looking for a
- 20:51submissive for impact play, they have to be into impact play.
- 20:54As much as people hate to say it, you know, physical
- 20:57attraction is a huge thing. You have to be physically
- 21:00attracted to the person. If they're not physically
- 21:01attracted, it's not going to work.
- 21:03I'm sorry. Another big thing is just how
- 21:05comfortably you're able to communicate in the real world
- 21:08because if you're not comfortable able to communicate
- 21:10in the real world, you're never going to be able to comfortably
- 21:13navigate and communicate. To play safely.
- 21:15When looking for somebody submissive, you need somebody
- 21:18that's there. Also for me, when I look for
- 21:19somebody to be on the sub side of things, like there has to be
- 21:23a submissive tendency there. If there's too much fight on
- 21:27everything, it's not the style I'm now.
- 21:30That's not saying like they can't have opinions and things
- 21:32like that, but if all they want to do is argue and fight
- 21:34everything. And be a brat.
- 21:36Yeah, that's just not the energy I wish to exert.
- 21:38Now, I enjoy logic filled debates.
- 21:41We have logical conversations where I say OK, let's hear it
- 21:45and you'll talk and we'll listen and we'll go back and forth on
- 21:48points and that stuff. You're not arguing just to argue
- 21:50or just to be a pain in the butt.
- 21:52We do have those little debates, just the debate, because it's
- 21:55fun, but it's not to be a brat or anything else that's really
- 21:57flexing your mind muscles. OK.
- 21:59How to engage and get into C&C Play consensual non consent.
- 22:04These are all things that are definitely deeper trust things.
- 22:08I mean, you have to be definitely with somebody who
- 22:10cares about you #1 you care about them #2 and it made me not
- 22:14100% romantically or whatever, but care about the betterment of
- 22:18the well-being of the individual.
- 22:19You don't want to generally cause them harm or dismay in any
- 22:23real way. Obviously predicaments and
- 22:25things like that, you know, predicament play, all that
- 22:27stuff, fine, but really life harm and stuff is never anything
- 22:30you should be trying to cause anybody, whether that's in their
- 22:33daily life struggles, that kind of stuff.
- 22:35When you're trying to find somebody for CNC style play, you
- 22:38need to make sure that you both have each other's best interests
- 22:41in mind. We do have somewhat of a CNC
- 22:43style relationship. For me, it's one of those things
- 22:46where I go, no, I'm not going to take advantage of this right now
- 22:48because I need you focused on X&Y&Z.
- 22:51Like I can't pull you out of whatever headspace you're in.
- 22:54I can't pull you out of what you're working on right now for
- 22:57my own needs because you're in game, you're doing everything
- 23:00you need to do. So for me, I'm definitely
- 23:02looking at you and saying OK, like I have this power to do
- 23:04X&Y&Z, but right now I'm not going to because I have your
- 23:07better interests in mind, not just my own getting myself off
- 23:10or wet or whatever it is. So finding somebody who's going
- 23:12to have your best interests in mind.
- 23:14Safety is also a big thing and in everything we always preach
- 23:18safe words, safe words, safe words, safe words, safe words,
- 23:20safe words. Even in consensual non consent,
- 23:23safe words are always respected. There is never anything, that is
- 23:26never a time that a safe word should not be respected, period.
- 23:30Even in discipline, safe word, safe word, safe word, safe word,
- 23:34safe word. So if somebody can't respect
- 23:36those things and respect you, they don't respect you.
- 23:38They shouldn't be having any control with your body, inside
- 23:42your body, anything else, period.
- 23:43I have another thing to add that you're really good at.
- 23:45I am kind of for use, but you have never gone to a place that
- 23:49I have not at some point previously given expressed
- 23:53consent to. I have like clearly said, yes,
- 23:55you have permission to do that. And it pisses her off because
- 23:58she does sometimes want those kinds of things to happen me
- 24:01just to take advantage of. And still it's one of those
- 24:03things like, no. And I've told her on certain
- 24:05things, like you have to tell me at some point in time that this
- 24:08is now OK. Once you tell me that, I will
- 24:10exploit that however aspect. Yeah.
- 24:12But until that happens, no. That's true.
- 24:15There are times where I even am guilty of this, of being like,
- 24:18no, I don't want to have to communicate it.
- 24:20Like just take it because that's the fantasy.
- 24:23And I really appreciate that you do not play into that.
- 24:26It's like a huge level of responsibility that you have and
- 24:29safety that I respect, even if it's not something that I in my
- 24:32fantasy world think I want. Oh, both of us are annoyed by
- 24:35that little fact. She's annoyed that I don't just
- 24:37do it and I'm annoyed that she won't give that consent, so it's
- 24:40fine. Do you feel like you are a good
- 24:41Dom? I think that we all fall short
- 24:43and I think we all are hard on ourselves and our shortcomings a
- 24:45lot of times. I definitely felt inadequate a
- 24:48lot of times, but I work on. It I've never felt you were
- 24:50inadequate. Fair.
- 24:51I think you always handle things really well.
- 24:53Almost frustratingly so because I'm like, God damn it, why can't
- 24:56you just like fuck up? But every time we have
- 24:59something, you just approach it so logically that it kind of
- 25:02makes my ego have to take a step back.
- 25:05That's I would say you approach things without an ego when it
- 25:08comes to your Dom style, would you agree?
- 25:10Logically is the best way to say it.
- 25:11Like I try to approach anything with logic 2 + 2 = 4.
- 25:14This means this. All right, I'm gonna let you
- 25:16read through the questions. Oh can Dom spot out Subs?
- 25:19I think true dominant person always can find it.
- 25:22But there's also ways that like code word teasers,
- 25:25playfulnesses. Are you telling me if you saw me
- 25:28at a restaurant, if you saw me at a bar, you would know I was
- 25:32submissive? This punk ass Princess right
- 25:35here. I bent down to tie my shoe.
- 25:37This doesn't count. It wasn't in the wild.
- 25:40It was in the wild, but we were without groups.
- 25:42You already knew, OK? So I don't think, I don't think
- 25:45like seeing people in general, like just looking at somebody
- 25:49most of the time that you could find submissive or not.
- 25:52However, the way people talk, the way they communicate, things
- 25:55like that, I see a lot, I see people, I'm like, OK, so and so
- 25:59there might be a little submissive side of things and
- 26:01you could talk to people and communicating with people in
- 26:03certain ways. You see clearer.
- 26:06You can use little feelers out on things and you know, kind of
- 26:09touch point a lot of things to see if somebody feels a certain
- 26:11way or something. You know, one of the things I
- 26:13used to do with friends is I used to jokingly ground my
- 26:16friends all the time my my girlfriends.
- 26:18Like friends are your actual I'm dating you girlfriend.
- 26:21Friends who are girls, the ones that you're playful with and
- 26:24things like that casually and not really playful with, like
- 26:26playful relationship. And that would I say something
- 26:28like you're grounded and after a while, but why do you always
- 26:31ground me? Like, well, your options were
- 26:32grounded or spanked. I thought this was the better
- 26:34option. And that's just playful.
- 26:35You kind of laugh it off. And if they're not into the
- 26:37spanking, they would never even think twice about, yeah, that's
- 26:40probably fair. You know, that's the response.
- 26:42Then every once will be like, well maybe I'd rather be
- 26:43spanked. Okay, that's obvious.
- 26:46You know what, let's go back to this.
- 26:48First of all, I was not a punk ass Princess.
- 26:50We were at one of these group lunches that we went to during
- 26:53the event Oasis party. Yes, we went to lunch and one of
- 26:57your friends united your shoelace.
- 26:59It wasn't me. I didn't untie it.
- 27:01You did the thing that you do that I hate where you counted
- 27:04for her to tie your shoe again because you were like you
- 27:07outside to tie it. Did she first?
- 27:09Did she ever get in trouble for untying your shoe?
- 27:11Did you ever spank or punish her for it?
- 27:14No, we'll get back to her. You have a cruise coming up that
- 27:17she'll probably be on so. OK, well, we'll.
- 27:20Get back to her on that. We have a lot sign up for the
- 27:22cruise by the way. But anyway.
- 27:24TKC 50, also in the show notes. All right, no, but back to this
- 27:27point, I thought you were very cocky in the way you were acting
- 27:30about it and I wasn't into it. So you bent down to tie your
- 27:33shoe and I thought that maybe I could put you in your place a
- 27:37little bit. And I walked over and nudged you
- 27:39with my butt to push you over. It wasn't well thought out
- 27:43because I was like I didn't want you to hurt yourself, just
- 27:46wanted you to like be a little unsteady and not so cocky.
- 27:48Be a little unsteady. She wanted me to fall on my
- 27:50butt. That's what she wanted.
- 27:52It wasn't a little nudge. She gave a pretty good little
- 27:55heave to to try to knock me over.
- 27:58Didn't understand. I'm more sure footed than she
- 28:00thought I. Was absolutely not because you
- 28:01were bending down to tie your shoe.
- 28:03I was on one knee, other foot up, just trying to, you know,
- 28:06and tie my shoe. She did not.
- 28:08Plan. She did not get me to fall over,
- 28:11which was unfortunate. In nudging me she came too close
- 28:14for her own good to where I just grabbed one of her legs and put
- 28:17her over my shoulder and just stood up.
- 28:20In the restaurant. In the middle of the restaurant.
- 28:22It was very funny, yeah, and I laughed my ass off.
- 28:26It was actually also very romantic.
- 28:28Yeah, you know, I try to pick up women everywhere I go, and this
- 28:31one just happened to stick around.
- 28:33I did, but that was the good moment.
- 28:34I just wanted to clear out that you were cocky.
- 28:36Oh, and she didn't get punished. And your girlfriends, it
- 28:39reminded me sometimes you threaten your girlfriends.
- 28:41But we were at a King party. She was.
- 28:43But yeah, I would like if on the cruise, I would like to witness
- 28:46that punishment because that was like unfair.
- 28:49I got punished for that. That was your segue.
- 28:51You have been perpetually rewarded since.
- 28:53Yes, that's true. Anyway, anyone wants to join us
- 28:56on this cruise? What's the cruise line?
- 28:58Kinky cruise Calm. Yep, and you can use code TKC 50
- 29:02for $50 off per person book now because those rooms are selling
- 29:06out fast. This is the only Kink dedicated
- 29:08cruise there is, so check it out, we'll be there.
- 29:11We'll be there and I do not plan to release my face or anything
- 29:15else on podcasts and things like that.
- 29:17So if you ever want to actually find out who I am, you have to
- 29:19go to these events and sign up Withers.
- 29:20Not totally true. You will be at my next or one of
- 29:25my next in person intensive weekends in Vegas.
- 29:29We'll be doing 1 together because you've agreed like
- 29:31setting up your own DS dynamic. So for couples who are
- 29:34struggling with this or really want to focus, it's like a
- 29:37retreat in Vegas to set up your DS dynamic and we will both be
- 29:41there teaching that for the weekend so.
- 29:44In order to ever see who I really am, you'll have to come
- 29:46to these in person events, whether it's our weekend,
- 29:48whether it's kinky cruises, whether it's whatever.
- 29:51Do you want to read through any more of the questions?
- 29:53I didn't read through that many to be fair.
- 29:54I kind of started at the top. Here's a good one.
- 29:56It's how is it being with a sub that really knows a lot and is
- 30:01sure of what they like. I purposely didn't ask that one
- 30:03because I eternally, no matter how much I know, feel I don't
- 30:06know a lot. That was going to be a lot of
- 30:09what it is is there's a lot of discovery and exploration we
- 30:12found in our own dynamic because you do understand a lot what I
- 30:15would say book smart wise, you know, like every term, every
- 30:19facet. She understands every dynamic of
- 30:21the relationship. She can help and understand
- 30:24everything in other people's relationships, but it your own
- 30:26sing in your own world totally different place.
- 30:29We navigate our own worlds differently than we do other
- 30:32people's. You know, I was always the
- 30:33friend that I could lead anybody through any relationship
- 30:36whatsoever, but was always the single friend couldn't navigate
- 30:40my own relationship. It's one of those things you do
- 30:42know so much. You are so smart, you're so
- 30:45gifted, you're so talented in that way.
- 30:47But it's so funny because we're so clouded in our own thought
- 30:50processes about ourselves. We don't really look
- 30:53introspectively the same way we do for other people, and we
- 30:56don't show up. You and I are both very similar
- 30:59in the sense that we show up in incredible ways for our people,
- 31:02and we give our people a lot more attention than we give
- 31:04ourselves. And what's funny is you show up
- 31:07for me that way and I show up for you that way, and you show
- 31:10up in ways for me to allow me to be a better Dom and encouraging
- 31:14that in the same way I show up in ways for you to encourage you
- 31:17and allow you to be a better submissive when we're not really
- 31:20thinking about those things. So you do have all of that
- 31:23knowledge and everything else, but you don't really think about
- 31:25it for yourself. You don't really think about
- 31:27your own dynamics, your own needs, your own wants, your own
- 31:29this, your own that, whatever it is.
- 31:31So even with all that knowledge, like you still need somebody to
- 31:34lead and help you understand and help you feel fulfilled in that
- 31:38role. And I think that's the big thing
- 31:39with any DS relationship is both roles need to feel seen and
- 31:43fulfilled at the end of every day.
- 31:45I mean, it's a tough one. Because was any of that
- 31:48intimidating to you? Not really, no.
- 31:50OK. I knew what I was about.
- 31:51I I I'm also somebody that I enjoy knowledge like.
- 31:54I'm not too prideful to say there are people smarter than
- 31:57me. As soon as you can acknowledge
- 31:59that there are people in the world smarter than you about
- 32:01different things, your life gets a lot better.
- 32:03Approach life with the theory of ignorance.
- 32:06Pretend you're the dumbest person in the room whether you
- 32:07are or not. Let people try to tell you what
- 32:10it is and you may learn something.
- 32:12You may just learn that people are pragmatic and want to flex
- 32:15big mind muscles that they don't even have and it just tells you
- 32:17who they are. Pragmatic is a good thing.
- 32:20Pragmatic is practical, isn't it?
- 32:21Yes, it is. So I have a question for you.
- 32:24How do you deal with performance anxiety or any kind of sexual
- 32:28anxiety? Performance anxiety I think
- 32:29might be as a Dom and then sexual anxiety.
- 32:32I mean, do you get those things now?
- 32:34I have. It can be hard performance,
- 32:37sexual anxiety, all of it. A lot of your anxiety and things
- 32:40like that genuinely come from your daily life.
- 32:44Anxiety in general, if you're not sleeping enough, you're not
- 32:46taking care of yourself. All those things, there are ways
- 32:50to take care of yourself. That that stuff, it doesn't
- 32:52necessarily fix it, but it makes it lesser.
- 32:54For me, if I'm not sleeping enough, I'm drinking too much
- 32:57caffeine, I'm not eating a clean diet, my anxiety levels go up
- 33:00and my performance numbers go down.
- 33:02You know, if your diet's trash, you're not drinking enough
- 33:05water. All those things, guess what?
- 33:06Your performance is going to follow that.
- 33:08You know, if you're putting bad fuel in a race car, race car is
- 33:11not going to go fast. Yeah.
- 33:12You feed the race car good, good fuel.
- 33:14All of a sudden it runs. So that's an easy one.
- 33:17The big thing is communicating with your partner how you're
- 33:20feeling. Because if you're feeling like
- 33:21you're not performing and everything else and you know,
- 33:23you're just beating yourself up, then they get frustrated and
- 33:26they don't understand you're frustrated.
- 33:27And all of a sudden it's just this downward spiral of
- 33:30disappointment on both sides versus if one person comes up
- 33:32and says, hey, listen, I'm having a hard time with this, I
- 33:35know it's affecting you too. Can we figure out a way to fix
- 33:38it? And whenever both people are on
- 33:39the same page, it's two people against the problem, not one.
- 33:42And that's something we've tried to put in our own relationship.
- 33:44Is 2 people against the problem, It's US against the problem.
- 33:47It's not just. One of us or one of us being the
- 33:49problem. That's my favorite thing, and I
- 33:51think the biggest mind shift I've had in a relationship in
- 33:54general, by the way, was you saying that it's like US against
- 33:57the problem. And that's not just in this
- 33:59question. That's everything.
- 34:00It's you guys versus the problem, period.
- 34:03It's not one person, it's not the other person.
- 34:05It's both people against the problem.
- 34:07So how does that tie into anxiety around performance?
- 34:10So anxiety around performance, it's the same thing.
- 34:13Like if you're having performance anxiety, you can't
- 34:15perform in a if I couldn't perform in a way I would go to
- 34:18you. Like if I'm not performing,
- 34:19whether it's as a Dom, whether it's sexually, whatever, if I
- 34:22just continue to play this game, it's going to be unfulfilling
- 34:25for me. It's going to be unfulfilling
- 34:26for you. We're both going to become
- 34:28frustrated. Neither of us is going to talk
- 34:30about it. But playing what game?
- 34:32Pretending everything's fine? Yeah.
- 34:33Just not communicating it, not feeling it out, not letting it.
- 34:36Like I said, calling the demons to light is the biggest thing in
- 34:39change. So if you can call the demon out
- 34:42number one, like, hey, I'm struggling with this.
- 34:44Can we, you know, it's hurting me right now.
- 34:47Then you don't even like one of the hardest things about
- 34:49performance anxiety is you're thinking about it the whole
- 34:50time. You're just worried like, am I
- 34:52doing it right? Am I performing like this is
- 34:54happening that you're worried about, that you're not even
- 34:56worried about the feeling that you're in versus if you can just
- 34:58say, hey, this may not go well from the start, going with that
- 35:02intention, like communicate with your partner, like, hey, I want
- 35:04to try this. This may not go well, but I
- 35:06still want to connect in this way.
- 35:07Can we do it anyway? Yeah.
- 35:08Just having that freedom to say, hey, this may not go well.
- 35:11Or this has nothing. If it doesn't go well, it.
- 35:13Has nothing to do with you at all, right?
- 35:15And that just changes the world. I mean, there are times where
- 35:17we've talked to each other like we enjoy intercourse without
- 35:21either. So we don't say intercourse, we
- 35:23say sex. You can say sex.
- 35:25Do you not want to say sex? I can say sex, I just when I
- 35:28said it earlier, she wants to cut the clip so.
- 35:29No, because can't. OK, fine, intercourse.
- 35:34This isn't like a biology book. It can be.
- 35:36All right, fine, all right. Enjoy intercourse.
- 35:39Yes, the intercourse activities. OK, fine.
- 35:43Yeah, you're right. We don't need to finish.
- 35:44I mean, I like to. Oh.
- 35:45We both do, and we both typically do sometime during the
- 35:49day. At some, yeah.
- 35:50Yeah, but there are times where we're just like, hey, we don't
- 35:52have the time, we don't have the energy, whatever it is.
- 35:54But I still want to connect in this way.
- 35:55Like let's connect and we both walk away fulfilled.
- 35:58Or just one of the two of. Us.
- 36:00No, no, at least connected. OK what's something you're still
- 36:03curious to explore with me? I promise that's the last
- 36:05question. Well son, I still we want to Co
- 36:07top somebody. I do, yeah.
- 36:09I enjoy topping. I'm excited to see that happen.
- 36:11I hope it happens at any the cruise, the next party we're at,
- 36:15any of these things. The next party will be Oasis Las
- 36:17Vegas I believe. We don't know that I mean.
- 36:19I believe, yeah, things change. Things could happen before then.
- 36:23OK. So thank you for coming on.
- 36:25I appreciate you being so vulnerable and open and willing
- 36:27to talk and answer all of my questions.
- 36:29There was not one question I asked that you were like, I
- 36:31don't want to answer that, so appreciate it.
- 36:33All right, so as I said, we will be hosting my next or one of my
- 36:38next in person intensive retreats in Vegas.
- 36:41My Dom will be there and we'll be talking about how to set up
- 36:43your own DS dynamic and we'll be doing for couples tailoring it
- 36:47to your relationship style right now.
- 36:49So you can sign up for that. There's a link in the show
- 36:52notes. Also will be on kinky cruise
- 36:55April 26th to May 2nd and there are still a couple of cabins
- 37:00left for it. So go to Kinky Cruise, Comm link
- 37:03is in the show notes. Use TKC 50 for $50 off per
- 37:06person. It's going to be a lot of fun
- 37:08and I hope to see you there because that's more vacation,
- 37:10but I will be teaching class. That will be fun, but there will
- 37:12also be classes and things like that too, so you could get to
- 37:15meet us. You get to also ask questions in
- 37:17person, get to actually enjoy a cruise and everything else.
- 37:20So I think that would be a great time.
- 37:21And if you can't wait till that, there will be our in person in
- 37:25March. All right, thank you again.
- 37:27And if you do have any more questions, leave them in the
- 37:29comments. We will probably do another
- 37:31episode, hopefully soon ish. And remember to like, comment,
- 37:36share and rate this five stars if you're enjoying it, all
- 37:39right. Good night.
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- 37:56Until next time, keep on kinking on.