Latest / She Rises with Ashy & Tijana / Friday feature - TRIGGERS
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Apologiate, production, tackle chat and unpack triggers, which is a
- 0:15Speaker 1: really cool thing to talk about because I think it's
- 0:17Speaker 1: something that we all have, We all go through at
- 0:19Speaker 1: some point in our life. We actually have a whole
- 0:21Speaker 1: chapter in our healing journals. So emotional triggers can be
- 0:25Speaker 1: incredibly powerful and can stir up intense feelings, especially for
- 0:28Speaker 1: those who have experienced trauma. But also don't forget that
- 0:32Speaker 1: triggers don't also have to come from extremely traumatic situations.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Now you can have little hairline triggers or you can
- 0:38Speaker 1: have really big triggers. These triggers can be associated with
- 0:41Speaker 1: past events or experiences that have caused pain, fear, or sadness.
- 0:46Speaker 1: When you're triggered, a person may feel overwhelmed and unable
- 0:49Speaker 1: to cope, and it can be difficult to regain a
- 0:51Speaker 1: sense of calm and control. However, it's important to remember
- 0:54Speaker 1: that it's possible to manage and overcome these triggers. It
- 0:57Speaker 1: takes time, patience, and support, but with the right techniques
- 1:00Speaker 1: and resources, individuals can learn to recognize and manage their
- 1:03Speaker 1: emotional triggers in a healthy, positive way. Ain't that the truth.
- 1:08Speaker 1: This may involve seeking therapy, practicing mindfulness or engaging in
- 1:12Speaker 1: self care activities that will bring relaxation and calm into
- 1:15Speaker 1: your life. Learning to manage emotional triggers is a powerful
- 1:18Speaker 1: act of self love. Ain't that the truth? It's about
- 1:20Speaker 1: learning to feel all of your emotions and finding ways
- 1:23Speaker 1: to navigate through the challenges and obstacles that life may bring.
- 1:26Speaker 1: The time and patience, it's possible to find emotional peace
- 1:29Speaker 1: and healing even in the face of past trauma or
- 1:31Speaker 1: difficult experiences.
- 1:34Speaker 2: And then I love our quote over written so good,
- 1:36Speaker 2: be grateful for triggers. They point you to where you
- 1:39Speaker 2: are not free by Jeff Foster.
- 1:41Speaker 1: So good. And I always say to like, any kind
- 1:44Speaker 1: of trigger that you feel or experience, it really is
- 1:47Speaker 1: life literally like putting a spotlight on what needs healing. Yeah, So,
- 1:50Speaker 1: if you're triggered about something, it's because there's something there
- 1:53Speaker 1: that you haven't cleared with that stored energy and old
- 1:56Speaker 1: experience just an upset. It's showing you what you need
- 2:00Speaker 1: to work on.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Let's go really simplified. If somebody has never heard of
- 2:03Speaker 2: a trigger before, how do you know that you have
- 2:06Speaker 2: just like felt triggered, Like what happens to your body?
- 2:09Speaker 2: What happens.
- 2:10Speaker 1: It can be so different for everyone, but it could
- 2:12Speaker 1: be like literally your body responds, you get sweaty, you
- 2:15Speaker 1: feel sick, you get nervous. Heart rate picks are heart
- 2:18Speaker 1: rate picks art you feel like uneasy in your tongue
- 2:22Speaker 1: and you're nauseous. Yeah, And then also like your mind,
- 2:25Speaker 1: it's all you can think about. You feel like upset,
- 2:28Speaker 1: on edge, anxious, so many of those lower vibrational feelings,
- 2:33Speaker 1: and also like a sense of not being in control
- 2:35Speaker 1: of how you're feeling because it takes over because it's
- 2:38Speaker 1: such a real feeling.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yeah, in the moment triggers For me, Like what I
- 2:42Speaker 2: will really notice is like, yeah, heart rate picking up,
- 2:45Speaker 2: sweating and shakes, like when you feel like you know,
- 2:47Speaker 2: like say, if somebody's like really something to upset you
- 2:49Speaker 2: and you're like yes, like you just all I want
- 2:51Speaker 2: to do is like just breathe.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel it in my heart and my gut. Yeah,
- 2:55Speaker 1: Like I feel a bit, you know when you go
- 2:56Speaker 1: down a roller coaster and your tommy kind of drops yeh,
- 2:59Speaker 1: Like I kind of feel just like a bit uneasy. Yeah.
- 3:02Speaker 1: And it can be something so small or it can
- 3:04Speaker 1: be something.
- 3:04Speaker 2: So yeah, And depending on where you're at on that day,
- 3:08Speaker 2: at that point in time. It might feel really small
- 3:10Speaker 2: one day, and then the next day that same small
- 3:12Speaker 2: thing might feel really big.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, And everyone's gonna have their own set of triggers.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Something that triggers me might not trigger you at all.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Uh huh. Like we'll talk about our biggest triggers. So,
- 3:22Speaker 1: my biggest trigger is our cohol. I grew with a
- 3:24Speaker 1: very alcoholic stepfather who was abusive and horrible. My mum
- 3:28Speaker 1: was quite a big drinker. My older brother has been
- 3:30Speaker 1: a big drinker. All my friends in high school twould
- 3:33Speaker 1: big drink because I've just been in a lot of
- 3:34Speaker 1: situations where our cohol really has not been a positive experience.
- 3:39Speaker 1: So and then when I met Steve Hugge's a big
- 3:41Speaker 1: party animal, would love to drink, and I did love
- 3:43Speaker 1: to have a couple of drinks and go out, and
- 3:45Speaker 1: I went through that phase, but it got to the
- 3:47Speaker 1: point where I moved away from that that I just
- 3:49Speaker 1: found being around our cohol quite triggering because it was
- 3:52Speaker 1: a lot to do with my past, and it almost
- 3:54Speaker 1: made me feel unsafe. With people that are drinking excessively,
- 3:58Speaker 1: they're unpredictable. Yeah, you don't know how they're going to
- 4:00Speaker 1: show up, what they're going to do, And that's been
- 4:03Speaker 1: a big trigger for me to work through. And even now,
- 4:05Speaker 1: like Steve's not a big drinker at all, but now
- 4:08Speaker 1: if he has a couple of drinks, I feel the trigger.
- 4:11Speaker 1: But I've gotten so good at managing it and also
- 4:13Speaker 1: knowing that I'm safe and that nothing's going to happen.
- 4:17Speaker 1: But say with my stepdad, it was like a trigger
- 4:20Speaker 1: and like, holy fuck, what's gonna happen. So sometimes triggers
- 4:24Speaker 1: they might not ever go away, but you get really
- 4:26Speaker 1: good at managing them. I've got the tools to be
- 4:28Speaker 1: able to regulate myself and tell myself that I'm calm
- 4:30Speaker 1: and everything's okay. And also Steve's really supportive on that
- 4:33Speaker 1: trigger now, so if he's gonna go have drinks with
- 4:35Speaker 1: the boys or do something, he'll communicate waying far in advance,
- 4:38Speaker 1: So I'm like, mentally can prepare. Another trigger for me
- 4:41Speaker 1: is yeah, anything that people say about my children it's
- 4:44Speaker 1: just horrible or never feels nice, it feels uneasy. That
- 4:48Speaker 1: protective mama bear in me wants to come out and
- 4:50Speaker 1: just like protect them from the nastiness of the world.
- 4:53Speaker 1: So they're probably my two main triggers.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Yeah, mine not actually very similar to Ashley is, but
- 4:58Speaker 2: kind of different reasons why.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I guess.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So, whenever Kurt is drunk, I get very triggered because
- 5:04Speaker 2: when we were younger and we were together, every time
- 5:07Speaker 2: Kurt got drunk, he got very angry, got in trouble.
- 5:12Speaker 2: It was just so many bad experiences. So a lot
- 5:14Speaker 2: of people might not know this about Kurt, but some
- 5:16Speaker 2: of you may. Yeah, he went through a phase where
- 5:18Speaker 2: he was definitely not in a great place. He was
- 5:22Speaker 2: getting locked up. I had to go pick him up
- 5:24Speaker 2: from being like locked up for like drinking in public
- 5:26Speaker 2: or you know, doing things and getting in fights. He
- 5:30Speaker 2: went through a really bad phase before we had kids
- 5:31Speaker 2: and before he started boxing, and he's really changed his
- 5:34Speaker 2: way around. I'm so proud of him. He hasn't done
- 5:35Speaker 2: anything like that for many years. But because for those
- 5:39Speaker 2: solid three or four years I felt so uncertain when
- 5:42Speaker 2: he was drinking, I've held onto that. So I'm fine
- 5:45Speaker 2: if he has you know, two, three, four or five.
- 5:47Speaker 2: But when I can see him like mixing alcohol or
- 5:50Speaker 2: like getting drunk, yeah, I definitely can feel the trigger
- 5:54Speaker 2: coming arm. Yeah, And again it grows back to safety
- 5:56Speaker 2: because I felt like in those moments, I didn't feel
- 5:59Speaker 2: safe in my environment. And he was just like Kurtawi says,
- 6:02Speaker 2: like we talk about this and he's like it was
- 6:03Speaker 2: just the shittest time, and he's like he feels so
- 6:05Speaker 2: much like regret for certain things that he has done.
- 6:09Speaker 2: But then it was just like the way things had
- 6:11Speaker 2: to happen, I guess for him to be shaped to
- 6:13Speaker 2: the human that he is, and like, you know, we
- 6:14Speaker 2: can totally see it now for what it was. But yeah,
- 6:17Speaker 2: there were definitely some times in my life where, yeah,
- 6:19Speaker 2: it was a lot of violence around drinking and stuff
- 6:22Speaker 2: like that.
- 6:22Speaker 1: And when people do get past that three four five drinks,
- 6:25Speaker 1: they're not the same person. They are definitely not They
- 6:27Speaker 1: are uncertain, they are unpredictable, like I don't know. Yeah.
- 6:31Speaker 2: And then my other one as well, but I had
- 6:32Speaker 2: written down was literally my kids. I feel like online
- 6:35Speaker 2: people can say what they want about me and sometimes yeah,
- 6:38Speaker 2: will scratch me and I'm like that's a little bit
- 6:39Speaker 2: annoying whatever like, but then I can, you know, think
- 6:42Speaker 2: it through. But when people are targeting your kids, people
- 6:45Speaker 2: that are so innocent and there's just like absolutely no
- 6:48Speaker 2: need for it. It's so nasty. Yeah, that's horrible. And
- 6:51Speaker 2: then as well, when trolls have said bad things about
- 6:54Speaker 2: like my miscarriages, I think when I've just been at
- 6:55Speaker 2: points in my life where I've been really low and
- 6:57Speaker 2: working through something and then somebody is pinpointing that and
- 6:59Speaker 2: having a go at me, or even if I'm struggling,
- 7:01Speaker 2: say in motherhood, and I'm opening up about it and
- 7:04Speaker 2: somebody's like, ya doing this wrong, I'm like, well, I'm
- 7:06Speaker 2: actually doing the best that I can and I'm doing
- 7:08Speaker 2: what feels right for me. So certain things like that
- 7:10Speaker 2: I can find triggering.
- 7:12Speaker 1: And it is triggering true if you're in the thick
- 7:13Speaker 1: of it, yes, because another one just came out for me,
- 7:15Speaker 1: which you know, like I had a friendship that we're
- 7:18Speaker 1: not friends anymore, and I'm going through the thick and
- 7:21Speaker 1: grieving of like this friendship that once was and it's
- 7:24Speaker 1: not the same anymore. And the when people ask you
- 7:26Speaker 1: questions and stick their nose in or make assumptions up
- 7:29Speaker 1: or make their own narrative, like, I find it so triggering,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and I literally like would put up a Q and
- 7:33Speaker 1: A and I'll be like, don't ask questions about other
- 7:35Speaker 1: people because it's triggering. We were like, oh, what happened
- 7:38Speaker 1: this person? I heard this about? This is this true?
- 7:40Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm going through this right now, Like
- 7:42Speaker 1: it's already hard enough, so for you to bring things
- 7:44Speaker 1: up and throw your projected, made up stories into the
- 7:47Speaker 1: mix and like try and create drama, it's triggering. Yeah,
- 7:50Speaker 1: let me work through it and get to the other side.
- 7:52Speaker 2: That is so true. And even how we're speaking all
- 7:55Speaker 2: the way up in the car about your intrusive thoughts
- 7:58Speaker 2: episode that you shard and how you're still working through it,
- 8:00Speaker 2: but different projections that will put on you. Yeah, of
- 8:02Speaker 2: course that is a little bit triggering. She's like, well, no,
- 8:04Speaker 2: that's not actually my story. Yeah, I'm working mine out
- 8:06Speaker 2: as I go.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Just because this has been your case doesn't mean that
- 8:09Speaker 2: it's the same for me.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's so interesting. Hey, in our journal, we
- 8:14Speaker 1: have a ten step process on how to manage triggers.
- 8:17Speaker 1: So if you've got the journal, you'd be reading this.
- 8:19Speaker 1: It's on page fifty nine. It is so good and
- 8:22Speaker 1: we really wanted to put this in here because it's
- 8:24Speaker 1: one thing to talk about triggers, even to write some
- 8:26Speaker 1: stuff down. But it was like when I started learning
- 8:29Speaker 1: about this, I'm like, cool, I understand what a trigger is.
- 8:31Speaker 1: What the fuck do I do with this now? When
- 8:33Speaker 1: I feel like this? I used to just like call
- 8:35Speaker 1: my girlfriends or to anyone who was about like, go
- 8:38Speaker 1: to Steve, go to my mum, whatever. But I would
- 8:40Speaker 1: constantly be left in a dysregulated state for a couple
- 8:44Speaker 1: of days or a couple of weeks, and then it
- 8:46Speaker 1: would overrule everything. And I didn't have a system in place.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I didn't have a process that I could turn to.
- 8:53Speaker 1: So when we sat down together, we were like, Okay,
- 8:56Speaker 1: what really helps us? And we have both had very
- 8:58Speaker 1: similar things that we did, like, let's put this into
- 9:00Speaker 1: a process. When someone's triggered, they can go into this
- 9:02Speaker 1: journal and be like, Okay, this is what I'm going
- 9:04Speaker 1: to do.
- 9:05Speaker 2: This is go to manage it.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Yes, step by step process. If you've got the journal,
- 9:08Speaker 1: page fifty nine incredible, get you out of that final
- 9:11Speaker 1: flight and get you pack into your It helps you
- 9:14Speaker 1: get out of it and moves through it in a
- 9:16Speaker 1: really beautiful way for yourself. So page fifty nine one
- 9:20Speaker 1: of our best pages. I reckon Yeah, I think so too.
- 9:23Speaker 2: I saw this Instagram Reeal and I shared with ashystem
- 9:26Speaker 2: of the story, so I was like, gosh, this is good.
- 9:28Speaker 2: It's from the Holistic Tree tribe, and it basically wrote
- 9:32Speaker 2: out different triggers and the different things you need to
- 9:34Speaker 2: heal from, and I just thought it was such a
- 9:36Speaker 2: good starting point to kind of understand from that perspective
- 9:39Speaker 2: of what a trigger can be from, because it's not
- 9:40Speaker 2: always necessarily what you think it could be, or sometimes
- 9:43Speaker 2: you might have to sit down to fully unpack, like
- 9:45Speaker 2: where is this coming from. Yes, so the first one
- 9:48Speaker 2: is like the trigger of being told what to do.
- 9:51Speaker 2: The thing you need to heal from is being controlled. Say,
- 9:54Speaker 2: if your trigger is conflict, the thing that you will
- 9:57Speaker 2: need to heal from potentially is emotional instability or reactive surroundings.
- 10:02Speaker 2: If your trigger is compliments you you probably need to
- 10:05Speaker 2: heal from being overly criticized. If your trigger is being vulnerable,
- 10:10Speaker 2: you may need to heal from being shamed or ridiculed.
- 10:13Speaker 2: If your trigger is rejection, you may need to heal
- 10:15Speaker 2: from fear of not being enough. If your trigger is change,
- 10:20Speaker 2: you may need to heal from fear of the unknown.
- 10:22Speaker 2: And if your trigger is being alone, you may need
- 10:25Speaker 2: to heal from fear of isolation, and I thought it
- 10:27Speaker 2: was just such a beautiful starting point when I saw that,
- 10:29Speaker 2: and I was like, it's really nice to see not
- 10:31Speaker 2: just about triggers, but the opposite side and what you
- 10:33Speaker 2: may need to be healing from. Definitely, and triggers will
- 10:36Speaker 2: be like all those ones I wrote out, and what
- 10:37Speaker 2: you may need to heal from is only like what
- 10:39Speaker 2: you may need to It could be a comple it
- 10:40Speaker 2: could be like ten different reasons that from that that
- 10:43Speaker 2: it could be