Episode 248: Where You Sit Shapes What You See

Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD · Sep 17, 2026 · 21m

In today’s episode, Bob ’n Joyce take on a question that has followed us throughout our careers: Where can you do your best and boldest OD work—from inside an organization or from the outside?

We’ve done both. And while we believe some of our most impactful work came from being inside the organization, there are real advantages—and some very real traps—to both.

Internal OD practitioners have an intimacy with the business that’s hard to replicate. They understand the culture, know the players, and can build credibility and trust over time. But that closeness can also get in the way. Internals…