Latest / The Spin Podcast / J.R. Howell joins to talk Syndicate Crown Programming; WFP Thoughts, CrossFit Semifinals & More
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- 0:33Welcome Thursday afternoon edition of the Spin Yeah day
- 0:40Later. Unacceptable.
- 0:42What are you talking about? Is that really the?
- 0:46Is that really the Jason Hopper? No one will ever know you need a
- 0:49check mark. Jason, is it?
- 0:50Is that like the Scott Pan chick?
- 0:53No, I think that's the real one that.
- 0:55Was really Scott? Dude, yeah, it's definitely
- 0:57really Scott too. I love how he commented on
- 1:01Instagram that that was not me. Like it wasn't like it wasn't,
- 1:05you know, he. Had no idea until I put that
- 1:08clip up. Yeah.
- 1:09Welcome day off. I figured we'd catch up.
- 1:13There's way too much to talk about.
- 1:15Mr. Jr. Howell will be joining us at
- 1:19some point here. His daughter had a little bit of
- 1:22a Boo Boo and he had the good deal with that.
- 1:25So hopefully he'll get here sooner than later.
- 1:29We'll talk about some of that. Well, I'll do some special blind
- 1:32rankings. It will keep Jr. for that.
- 1:34I think you might appreciate that We'll answer the.
- 1:37Question. Big fan of blind rankings.
- 1:40Oh, I'm sure he'll love it. Do we hate the WFP?
- 1:44We'll answer that question for you.
- 1:46Barry Mccochner wants to know a good question.
- 1:48Where is your WFP gear? The good answer is.
- 1:53Not an on would. A.
- 1:54Would a hater wear WFP? I actually think we're three
- 1:57different levels on that question.
- 2:00Do you? Yeah.
- 2:02And it's definitely from left to right, but we'll get there when
- 2:05we get there. Be like It'll be like a
- 2:07political show. It'll be everybody thinks we.
- 2:09Can. No, no, no.
- 2:11I think you're a Republican. May you think so.
- 2:14OK, All right. And then we'll talk about some
- 2:18semifinals and penalties and whatever else in the CrossFit
- 2:22world that we feel like talking about.
- 2:25See. Meandering show.
- 2:26Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
- 2:27Whenever Jr. shows up, we will know we're we're always late.
- 2:33It's. Just 24 hours and 2 minutes.
- 2:36That's right. Yeah.
- 2:38We might be jumping around. We may have a special guest
- 2:40later on. I don't know.
- 2:42We're trying to pull something off here.
- 2:44We'll see. All right.
- 2:46As always, though, we'll start with viewer comments.
- 2:50Go subscribe. This is your reminder again.
- 2:53We'll never get to 10,000 if you don't subscribe by watching.
- 2:57All right. Well, since I was out last week,
- 2:59you guys generated quite a few comments.
- 3:01The comments, the volume of comments was crazy.
- 3:05Yeah, it was a good job guys. I had a lot to choose from.
- 3:10It's hard to choose from a lot of them.
- 3:11It's because I didn't look at the comments last week.
- 3:14They were like, all right, now ours.
- 3:15Now's our chance. Yeah, yeah.
- 3:16I watched that back and I was like viewer comments.
- 3:19You read 1, then you're like, all right, we're up.
- 3:22Thanks. Dude, he struggled on that one
- 3:24too. That one took 5 minutes.
- 3:26But you know, when you have the the most accurate representation
- 3:31of CrossFit fitness ever known to man, it's going to it's going
- 3:34to bring some comments there. Natalie, that's a good question.
- 3:38Do we ever buy Tyler a baby present?
- 3:40No, we're just going to give him cold hard cash so he can buy
- 3:43whatever. I'm jealous.
- 3:46Of that I told. I told.
- 3:47Tyler, I said. Look.
- 3:50You're going to buy a PlayStation.
- 3:52I said to put something on there and then she's like everybody
- 3:55had bought everything by then, so.
- 3:58I it will go to diapers and all the diaper, diapers and C.
- 4:02Four and what's you're on Rockstar these.
- 4:05Any updates on that? I'm trying to work on our
- 4:08Rockstar sponsorship by the way. Would you any updates?
- 4:13Yeah. We'll see if I disappear.
- 4:16Do you know what's? Happening I'm talking about the
- 4:19Rockstar sponsorship, not I don't care about I'm just
- 4:22kidding. I'm just kidding I'm just
- 4:24kidding I'm just kidding. But it's it's, it could happen
- 4:26like at any moment, right in. Fact.
- 4:28Literally. Yeah, are.
- 4:30We talking about Rockstar or the baby?
- 4:32The baby, yeah. Yeah, OK Jason Hopper enjoyed
- 4:37hanging with Tyler this weekend. I actually took my sunglasses
- 4:42off so people knew who I was, unlike others.
- 4:46I actually love that dude. I freaking loved.
- 4:49It. How did how did Hillary pull
- 4:50that off? We should we should he should
- 4:52take like he should have had like secret videos like I'm in
- 4:57The Cave, but but like and then show Bruce Wayne like entering
- 5:01Wayne building and like, you know what I'm saying?
- 5:03Like, like and people don't know who he is.
- 5:05That's his disguise. He should have filmed it that
- 5:07way. Like the whole the whole reel
- 5:09that like you get when Batman leaves the bat cave, like he
- 5:12fires up his Jeep, like all that stuff.
- 5:15It's like this man is Batman's disguise like, and then that's
- 5:18what Hitler should have had done.
- 5:20Could you guys tell by the footage?
- 5:21I don't know that he was there all three days.
- 5:24I think he just snuck in for one day and left.
- 5:27I think it was Friday. I don't go ahead.
- 5:29There was 1 moment where I thought I saw him and then like
- 5:33I turned around and that person was gone and I was like my
- 5:35head's just fucking with me and then I was and then like.
- 5:38I saw that he was there and I was like.
- 5:39Did I see? Him and you know he saw you, so
- 5:43you'd be like. You know what's crazy is like
- 5:47all it would take is one person to recognize him.
- 5:50It's over. And then it's over because
- 5:52people would start talking like, how did you see Hiller?
- 5:53And then it'd just be everybody would be talking about it.
- 5:57Big thank you. What's?
- 5:58Up, Andrew. All right.
- 6:00Yeah, but you're not, you're not the regular fan.
- 6:03I think I've been more like, I can't believe Hiller's actually
- 6:07at this. Yeah, big thank you to Sarah Cox
- 6:11for let me hang out in the VIP suite.
- 6:12We'll, we'll. Definitely have to get to that
- 6:14after we read the comments. All right, first one at Dave Dad
- 6:19versus dad bod 8188. I'd honestly pay for a show with
- 6:25Caleb Bryson. I mean, they're super chats.
- 6:29We can do this. I think they do that.
- 6:31On a way you see meaning Caleb and Bryson or?
- 6:34Caleb and Bryson, OK, OK, yeah, those two guys, yeah, super chat
- 6:38it. I think once you saw the show
- 6:40you might ask for a refund, but we could.
- 6:43We can do it. Though it's it, there's no
- 6:45refunds, so go for it. Let's see at Martin's Juno.
- 6:51This Sea Beaver guy doesn't know anything about CrossFit as a
- 6:55sport. I don't think he claims to.
- 6:59Yeah. We we were.
- 7:00We were. We were.
- 7:01We were. Short on people, guys like we
- 7:05to. Get some however, at sea Beaver
- 7:07wanted to say no, but I know a lot about your mom.
- 7:11Seems like a nice lady but I'm not calling her back so boom
- 7:15roasted at Carter Peterson 7 James over Dallin referring to
- 7:22your games mountain. Yes, U2F is going on in here.
- 7:29I'm telling you what's going to happen.
- 7:31I think we should. I think I should start going by
- 7:33John Stradamus from now on because, because if I put it out
- 7:38there, that's what's going to happen.
- 7:39You guys will start listening sooner and later.
- 7:42Yeah, yeah, we'll get to this at Misha 1147.
- 7:46More mountain talk. Humiliating mountain of mud I
- 7:52don't care about online puts Meiha over Brooke both because
- 7:58of what they did online well. When that's all I have to go off
- 8:03of, you tell me the in person competition that Brooke did
- 8:06where she deserves to be ahead of Meiha.
- 8:10There's not. 1. There's not one.
- 8:12I bet you she regrets not doing Mayhem now.
- 8:15I mean I I hope she does syndicate but.
- 8:18I hope so. You know, right now Juan's got a
- 8:21games ticket and won, won the online semi finals now that they
- 8:26all the penalties have come out, which is wild.
- 8:31Yeah. And I think she's earned that
- 8:33spot on the bottom row of the mountain.
- 8:37Yeah, I mean, she looks very, very good.
- 8:40And and I mean, those are hard. Those are hard events.
- 8:42Or you know, like, it wasn't like they were open workouts.
- 8:49Yeah, and it's not that it doesn't matter at all, it's that
- 8:52the IT matters less than what Mayhem in person is.
- 8:58Does that make sense? And like, I look at the World
- 9:00Fitness Project and I will get to it 'cause I said that didn't
- 9:02matter either. I'm saying it does not rogue,
- 9:06it's not Wadapalooza. It's not one of the biggest
- 9:09CrossFit Games events there is, even though it has a huge talent
- 9:13pool. I, I'm aware, but clearly, like,
- 9:17you know, when you got Veldner and Laura being 70% of
- 9:20themselves, it's not as serious as I would say, like the three
- 9:24biggest competitions that we had or people vying for their game
- 9:28spots like they were at mayhem. So I the in affiliate the online
- 9:34semi final matters. World fitness project matters,
- 9:38but at a lesser rate than those other ones do.
- 9:41That's what I'm referring to when I say it doesn't matter.
- 9:44It's like when I say I don't care about the people that don't
- 9:47matter All of a sudden when freaking one of the Syria Miha
- 9:53wins the online semi finals. Oh, shoot, you all of a sudden
- 9:57matter. I should probably figure out
- 9:59what the freak you're about like, you know, you know what
- 10:02I'm saying? But if you're 32nd and somebody
- 10:04says you have potential, I don't care about you until you show me
- 10:09that you mean something. And that's that's how that work.
- 10:14I don't know why people have a like or have complicated this or
- 10:17have a hard time understanding this.
- 10:19Me either, the mountain is so simple.
- 10:21The mountain is fair. It is.
- 10:24And you tell me. You tell me, you guys tell me.
- 10:26OK, you put Brooke and and Syria.
- 10:29We got it. We need to figure out how to say
- 10:30it. I think it's Syria.
- 10:33Syria or Syria? I like Syria a lot better,
- 10:37Sercia. That's Sercia.
- 10:42Definitely not Sercia. You tell me which one's done
- 10:46more for this this year? Which one's deserving of being
- 10:50higher this year for what they've done this year?
- 10:54Yeah, Fergie for $1.99. What is the favorite Knoxville
- 11:00restaurants? I bet it's within 5 miles of
- 11:04McDonald's, but I'm not sure from there.
- 11:07OK, so here's what you want to do you the best restaurant in
- 11:11Knoxville is actually in Clinton, which is not in
- 11:13Knoxville. You want to go to Big Ed's Pizza
- 11:16in Clinton? There you.
- 11:20Go I need to I need because we we're still confused here.
- 11:23Royal Fitness project was far superior talent.
- 11:25Why swat of pollutants and women in men's fields not even close.
- 11:27Tanner, you're right. I think this comment is biased
- 11:31because you were there, but it you people the prize at the end
- 11:38of it is not $100,000. Half of the field is not like
- 11:43not trying. Everybody is peeking out for
- 11:46this competition. Everybody wants to be great.
- 11:49People are just showing up for a paycheck.
- 11:50Tanner, it's big time different. And yes, the fittest of the
- 11:55world are still there. They're still competing like I'm
- 11:57not. I think half of it and Tyler,
- 11:59Tyler said this earlier, I think half of the field is competing
- 12:03and half of the field is just there for their paycheck and
- 12:07that's fine. But that I don't maybe it was,
- 12:10it was Bryson, I thought you sounded good, but that's a
- 12:16different competition. Whenever you're like people are
- 12:19trying and people aren't trying, then you're the people who are
- 12:22trying. Your lowest spot you're going to
- 12:23get is like 11th place because they're all the 10 are not
- 12:26trying and I know you're trying Tanner, but you're not fit
- 12:29enough to matter yet in a. Competition, that's.
- 12:31Like that and maybe you'll get there one day, but right now you
- 12:36don't make a difference in those kind of competitions.
- 12:41But I hope you do one day. Tanner.
- 12:42I love you. Tanner.
- 12:43You're you're you are you are great there.
- 12:48You go Tanner. Was it both?
- 12:50And what place did you come in in both those competitions?
- 12:53Because I'll ask Dallin and I bet Dallin gives me a different
- 12:56answer. So if you 2 are giving me
- 12:58different answers, what's that mean to you?
- 13:00Dallin's a liar. Well, let's let's get off of it.
- 13:03You're great. You're great, Tanner.
- 13:05Go look at Tanner. Let's see Misha continues 3 day
- 13:11competition with literally all the big names in the sport.
- 13:14Not a single word on it. Pathetic in quote.
- 13:19They won't try because they get paid over.
- 13:22Get over yourself and admit when you're wrong.
- 13:25Love the show and watch every week but this was just all just
- 13:28very childish. Is this US transitioning?
- 13:32I I was jumping 2 topics. I feel like you should.
- 13:35We should have two different viewer.
- 13:36Comments. This was 2.
- 13:38This was 2 comments by the same viewer.
- 13:40No, no, no. He's.
- 13:42No. Are we are we switching
- 13:43sections? Here to do we hate the WFP he's
- 13:46saying I. No, this is this is, this was a
- 13:49comment by Amisha, Frankie said. I know Spin is so pissed that
- 13:53the WFP is going really well even though he's going to
- 13:56pretend it doesn't bother him. Remembering COVID, you remember,
- 14:03I'm sorry, you remember during the 49ers game when everything
- 14:08was like, yeah, we should definitely do go to the 49ers
- 14:10game. And then it was like, oh, maybe
- 14:15maybe we should watch the 49ers game from the, you know, the,
- 14:19the cheap sheet seats. And then it was like, oh, maybe
- 14:21we should watch it from the parking lot.
- 14:22And it's like, oh, maybe the 49ers suck sometimes.
- 14:28That's what happens. Well, I'll answer the question.
- 14:31I'm not sure I'm pissed, but yeah, well, I will, I think.
- 14:36I think, I think you would have rather them not be great.
- 14:41Is that fair? To say, oh, you mean you're
- 14:42saying we're bias? No, just what you want to
- 14:46happen. No, I still, that's what I'm
- 14:49saying. I was watching Clydesdale on my
- 14:52way home and he had Kotler on and I asked some questions about
- 14:59it. And I I think between listen and
- 15:01we'll get more into it. But I think listening to train
- 15:05think tanks show that was what was that put out this morning
- 15:10and hit listening to Kotler and everything I've started to hear
- 15:14like when they talk about and what I've been seeing of what
- 15:17athletes are doing, it's starting to turn into what my
- 15:24fear is. And I'll, I'll explain it later.
- 15:27So just stay with me. Oh God.
- 15:29I'm here for it, I'm here for it and I'm gonna tell y'all right
- 15:32now. Spin is absolutely correct.
- 15:34I don't know what what we're talking about, but Spin is
- 15:36absolutely correct. And what he's going to say, it
- 15:40doesn't. You could still have your
- 15:41opinion, but I'm not. Gonna have your opinion but
- 15:44you're wrong. All right all right, we got a
- 15:50CrossFit not cringe story, so it's a little long, but I think
- 15:55it's definitely worth it. So you gotta stay with me the
- 15:58account the account user is the pen is blue one or the penis
- 16:04blue one. I'm not sure which one it is,
- 16:06but the pen is blue one is the one I'm.
- 16:09Gonna go with That's a good one. All right, CrossFit, not cringe.
- 16:14This is wild. So first day at a new gym, 5:00
- 16:16AM class and I plan to get there like 15 minutes early to get my
- 16:20waiver signed account activated. I did take him two weeks off of
- 16:25training which means I was eating like crap.
- 16:27As I drive to the gym the pre workout starts brewing in my
- 16:31belly, mixing with two weeks of bad decisions.
- 16:36When I park at the gym, nobody is there yet.
- 16:40I'm running around the gym in a panic trying to find a safe
- 16:43place to relieve myself. There wasn't one at this point,
- 16:49there isn't enough time to leave.
- 16:51The end was near. I got back into into the back
- 16:55seat of my forerunner and filled a large McDonald's cup to the
- 16:58brim with the unspeakable. At this moment, people start.
- 17:06Pause, pause. I.
- 17:08There's no way I could trust myself to land in that small of
- 17:11an area, especially like if it's explosive, you're blowing out
- 17:16everywhere and I'm definitely not doing that in the
- 17:18Forerunner. It's not it's not their first
- 17:20time, Tyler. This ain't the first rodeo.
- 17:24I don't want to say anything, but I am the person that put.
- 17:27That I'm just kidding. Your pen is blue.
- 17:30No, I'd never come. Let's see, at this moment people
- 17:34start showing up to the gym. I panic to pull up my shorts and
- 17:38get out, but the child locks her on so I have to crawl to the
- 17:42front seat and get out, all while people are walking past me
- 17:45to go inside. I left the hot shake in my truck
- 17:50and went inside to be greeted by the owner who hands me the iPad
- 17:53to get my membership started. After 30 seconds, I politely
- 17:56excused myself to clean up the train wreck in my pants.
- 18:00Nobody ever suspected what actually did that, what I did
- 18:03that morning in the parking lot and I never spoke of it.
- 18:07Oh yeah, I threw the hot shake in a public trash can on my way
- 18:10home. This guy's out there.
- 18:13He's roaming around, he could be anybody, and he's listening to
- 18:18this show. I'm going to tell you something.
- 18:22I think all of them did, No. And nobody just said anything.
- 18:25Yeah, Everybody's just cool. They're like, yeah, this dude
- 18:28smells like. He's one of he's from one of
- 18:30those like colonies. Like he's.
- 18:32Like. Yeah, I think Crossfat got it
- 18:37right. Yeah.
- 18:39I don't know how you how you do that.
- 18:42Yeah, you got to wear like, like super thick Cologne the next
- 18:45three weeks to make people forget.
- 18:46That's so that was Gabe's burner account.
- 18:49We figured it out. Totally can relate.
- 18:53So eat clean. I think it's the moral of the
- 18:56story there, all right. I've never had that issue.
- 19:00Pre workout responsibly, folks. Yeah.
- 19:03Where do you want to go next? We got like 7 minutes I think
- 19:05until Jr. Hopefully will be able to to
- 19:07join us. Do we want to get knee deep into
- 19:10WFP stuff? I think that's going to last
- 19:12longer than 7 minutes. I you want to go blind rankings
- 19:14and then we'll go Jr. and then we'll dive into WFP.
- 19:18Semifinals Penalties. Or we can do that, yeah.
- 19:20Semifinals penalties can probably be pretty quick.
- 19:23Semifinals, penalties, I think they're done with them as far as
- 19:31men was light. Men.
- 19:32The men were. The men were light.
- 19:35Yeah. Semifinals penalties Brick
- 19:36Wells, top 11 out. Olivia Kursetter, top 11 out.
- 19:43Who else was it? Kyra Milligan who?
- 19:46Got there, Caroline Stanley was out, got penalized out, Kyra
- 19:50Milligan got bumped up until they then naked her score.
- 19:54So she is out and now we have a top, a top 11.
- 19:59Guys, Miriam von Rohr. Holding it down and.
- 20:02That's why I said her name correctly, because she is now a
- 20:07CrossFit Games act. She's earned it.
- 20:09She's earned me saying Miram, Miram out of second.
- 20:13She sucks. We're going to go back to a hard
- 20:16H Miram. Here.
- 20:24We go era Lowen got penalized and that put Sriracha on #1.
- 20:29Sriracha, you better. Put respect on her name.
- 20:36Did you all watch her videos? Yeah.
- 20:39Yeah, I watched to make sure, like.
- 20:41She moved properly. She moved.
- 20:42Clean all of them. He's legit.
- 20:44Man, I mean, I don't know, she doesn't look like a whole lot
- 20:49bigger either. I mean, I'm not going to.
- 20:51I know I'm not like the expert in P people doing some stuff,
- 20:54but she doesn't look like she's done some stuff, you know?
- 20:59She just, I mean, it could just be time, man.
- 21:01Like she just finally hit that hit that precipice.
- 21:04Thing she I'm not I'm not saying she is legit, but she looks
- 21:08legit and now live competition's far different.
- 21:11I'm it's not like I'm going to put her high up at like my games
- 21:14rankings when I we make them, but she looks legit.
- 21:19So I'm not going to speak poorly on her until poorly comes upon
- 21:23her. But the yeah, dude, I'm excited
- 21:26to see her. Where's she from?
- 21:28Albania. Albania.
- 21:31That's right, Annika Greer, Albania, not 12th place, so
- 21:36that's good. Yeah, my opinion on Annika has
- 21:40not changed at all. If you run, if you run at the
- 21:42games, then what are we then She, is she, what's she going to
- 21:46be? I mean no offense, but if it was
- 21:48at 24 games. Last place it.
- 21:51Would not be good. She would be underneath Laura,
- 21:54who quit in three events. Yeah, Maddie Sturt.
- 22:00No surprise. Danielle Brandon, were you
- 22:02surprised that? No, no penalties on her cleaning
- 22:06jerks. What was wrong with them elbows?
- 22:11Everybody was starting to get angry on the the jerk that it
- 22:14was made a full lockout or is it was a little bit.
- 22:16No, I mean, I think people are being a little bit too anal in
- 22:19that circumstance. I, I don't, I, I think it's
- 22:22fine. I think she's fine.
- 22:23I I going back up I, I agree I, I did not think that that was
- 22:27one that warranted a penalty. I was surprised that Ariel's
- 22:35score was not hit as hard. But with that, we're going to
- 22:41stop talking about all of that. We'll.
- 22:43Come back to that. Yeah, we'll come back to that.
- 22:46We'll do that later. What's more important is Mr. Jr.
- 22:51Howell. Welcome to the show.
- 22:54What's up? What are we?
- 22:56What did I miss? Who fell off the mountain?
- 22:58Who's? No, we're actually going to
- 23:00repeat this Crossfitter cringe story that I think, I think, I
- 23:05think, I think you, I think you can relate to honestly, Jr.
- 23:09Is Jr. Pen is blue it?
- 23:13Could be Did you? Have you ever gone to a 5:00 AM
- 23:16class and the pre workout and your bad bad habits of eating
- 23:21catch up with you and you have to take a dump in a McDonald's
- 23:24cup? Oh, we know it's your.
- 23:27It's McDonald's cup. Nope, not Jr.
- 23:29It's not me, by the way, Jr., this is a random.
- 23:32Story has to be about. I was about to say it has to be
- 23:34about John. If it's more if it's McDonald's.
- 23:36No, I have the stomach of iron. OK, I nothing happens.
- 23:40You only eat like three things. And and they work.
- 23:44Beautifully for it. We don't have a stomach of iron.
- 23:48Well, we don't know what kind of stomach I had.
- 23:49It's not about me, Jr., OK? Let's let's move on.
- 23:55First off, Jr., your daughter, all right.
- 23:58Yeah, 6 stitches good as. Not bad.
- 24:02Yeah, let's be the story. She she split it up and pretty
- 24:04good, just right under the chin. That's a good one.
- 24:07It was a lot of blood that that that's what freaked her out.
- 24:11So it kind of sent her into a panic.
- 24:13I'm just glad I was there because I'm like super calm.
- 24:16And if my wife would have been there, it'd just been Becca.
- 24:20I mean, when she walked into urgent care, she just
- 24:22immediately. Started crying so.
- 24:24Yeah, my youngest, I guess he was probably 5 or 6, was
- 24:29skipping around on Halloween one Halloween night and tripped over
- 24:33the like one of the little mats we have and hit his eye right
- 24:37above, like here and like, it bleeds a lot.
- 24:41And it was Halloween night. So yeah, that was a fun.
- 24:45I have that. I have that same spot.
- 24:47I, I stole a ball from a guy in a basketball game and hit the
- 24:52shit out of his head and his head split open on the top and
- 24:56my eye split open. Went and laid it up and
- 24:59everybody was just looking at me like what, What are you doing?
- 25:02And it was just like gushing blood, but I couldn't see it
- 25:04'cause it wasn't in my eye. And I was like, why is everybody
- 25:06stopped? They were like, well number one,
- 25:08you found the shit out of him and your eyes open.
- 25:13Welcome boys on the right. You guys will be there soon
- 25:16enough. Yeah.
- 25:18Yeah, Tyler's any minute now. You'll be freaking out about
- 25:22cutting their toenails, you know.
- 25:25Yeah, that'll be good. All right.
- 25:27Well, the reason we had you jump on you actually you're.
- 25:30Talking about you want to talk about cutting toenails that is
- 25:35all right. Well, yeah, we can clip that.
- 25:36Yeah, we're. Talking about buttered sausage.
- 25:39Dude, Leslie. Leslie clipped Abby's
- 25:43fingernails. I don't know.
- 25:44I went for toenails, fingernails and like got her finger a little
- 25:47bit and like started in like blood actually extremely hard to
- 25:51cut their toenails. That's why I said.
- 25:53That and I knew you. Weren't going to do it.
- 25:54I knew it. Was and yeah, and she, she got
- 25:58blood came up and then Abby started screaming and she's
- 26:03like, she's like, I don't. Know what to do I was.
- 26:06Like well. Maybe don't clip her nails?
- 26:08Until we like, we can. I don't know.
- 26:11Like wait till she's 5. Yeah, wait till her appointment.
- 26:14And then, and then she's and then she went to clip the dog's
- 26:16nails and they ran away from her heart while the dogs were not
- 26:19about it. Nail clipping day.
- 26:25You guys hadn't paid attention. It was Wednesday, yesterday.
- 26:29Obviously that's when big news comes out and that's why, of
- 26:33course, we didn't do the show. But the workouts, the events,
- 26:39they're here. They're here.
- 26:43Mr. J Howard programmed them so. Dude, I didn't talk.
- 26:47I they never even came up, not once.
- 26:51I'm I'm I'm offended at the text messages.
- 26:53Honestly, quite frankly, proudly, I was offended of.
- 26:57Them made it buddy. We're proud of you.
- 27:00Yeah, I didn't. Get any?
- 27:01I didn't get any direct messages about leaks that were actually
- 27:06true. So that was nice.
- 27:07And I, to be honest, I mean, Wilson's known the workout since
- 27:12December. The testing people have known
- 27:15them since maybe January at the latest.
- 27:18Like all the the staff, like the scoring, the judges, so many
- 27:24people have known for so long that it's made me really, really
- 27:26anxious. So it's nice to know that people
- 27:29are trustworthy. Except me, who you know needs to
- 27:32plan the production. But it's a whole different
- 27:33issue. What?
- 27:34What's funny is you, you had sent me the workouts what, like
- 27:40that morning or that night or the night before.
- 27:43And so I was getting it ready. But I was curious if Wilson was
- 27:46going to mess up and put him on the website early and he did not
- 27:49get him password protected till the last minute.
- 27:51Dude, Wilson. Wilson's like, on top of it,
- 27:54man. He, he told me, he told me that
- 27:56specifically on Wednesday morning, he said, hey, here's
- 27:59your, here's a link to the website that like here's the
- 28:02code and it will not go live until after 12.
- 28:06So that spin doesn't get him early.
- 28:08Yeah, No, he was. He thought of you Spin.
- 28:10I checked. I.
- 28:11Found the URL even though there wasn't a link to it.
- 28:13I found it and I sent a screenshot.
- 28:16I. Was trying.
- 28:17I said well played. He was on the phone with or we
- 28:21were on a call with him. When he when you did that, he
- 28:24was like, I freaking told you he's going to do this.
- 28:26Hey, I mean Norcal, they they put stuff out there didn't think
- 28:29anybody would check their website and I did.
- 28:31So you know, it happens, the events Friday.
- 28:39Heavy Isabel. Yeah.
- 28:41And let me just say, let me just interrupt you real quick.
- 28:43Spin. I mean he.
- 28:45Made it 5-4. What started out, what's what I
- 28:48mean, go ahead and go to the first lot.
- 28:49What started out is like, I mean, I built the whole
- 28:53competition off of this workout. The whole thing.
- 28:56Really. This is the.
- 28:57One, it kind of needed to be. Dude in in November, in
- 29:01November, I texted Bill and Chase and I said right after
- 29:05Rogue and I said, hey, you guys, you know, they did like 30
- 29:07sandbag Queens per time. What do you think about, you
- 29:09know, Rogue has done 30 cleaning jerks per time.
- 29:11What do you think about doing 30 snatches like Heavy Isabel, like
- 29:14Rich and Matt did? Like in a competition, He's
- 29:16like, I think it's cool for a strength workout, not for a
- 29:20finale. It's a little bit slow.
- 29:22And I was like, cool. And so I right then I was like,
- 29:26I'm going to do this. Obviously someone who actually.
- 29:29Did it? That AdvoCare had the same idea.
- 29:33And then from then on it becomes everyone's done it and
- 29:35everyone's tired of it. And now every time I see this
- 29:37workout or think about this workout, I just get angry and I
- 29:40cannot tell you how glad I am that it's Event 1 and I don't
- 29:43have to think about it anymore. I'm sorry man, I, I, I feel for
- 29:51you. How?
- 29:52Crazy is that it sounds like everybody was kind of thinking
- 29:54about it. It's like even even Castro and
- 29:57Bosman, I think, I really think two people were thinking.
- 30:00About it. And then it made everybody want
- 30:02to do it. I wonder too, like my knowledge
- 30:06like Bos and Dave didn't get our workouts early.
- 30:10Just like hey, let me see what you guys got.
- 30:13You know, if I were them, I would want to know just because
- 30:15I'm a nerd. But like, I, I wonder too, if,
- 30:19you know, Dave's doesn't know me at all and knows Rich really
- 30:22well. If he was like, what are you
- 30:23guys doing at Mayhem? And he sent him and he's like,
- 30:26oh, Eddie, Isabel's cool. Maybe we'll do that.
- 30:30But you know who? Knows, I think, I think David in
- 30:32one of his week reviews said that they were kind of actually
- 30:36toying with the idea ahead of time and then heard it and
- 30:40they're like, then they had a discussion about do we change
- 30:42it? Do we keep it?
- 30:43And the decision was, let's just go ahead and keep it.
- 30:46Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about
- 30:51the same workout all the way across from that.
- 30:55I I do agree that having it as a finale was it Wadlin Fest that
- 30:58did it as the finale. Yes, yes.
- 31:01Yeah, it was not as exciting as you would hope for a final
- 31:06event. Yeah.
- 31:08Yeah. And, and honestly too, like this
- 31:11is a good time to bring up all you people that think we need to
- 31:14have uniform programming. Remind yourselves how sick and
- 31:18tired you get of, of seeing the same workouts for four or five
- 31:21straight weeks. And we've only seen this one at
- 31:25almost all of them. I would be surprised if if
- 31:28Torian did it. I'd be surprised if Asia did it.
- 31:32I think Rebel will do it because.
- 31:34They just announced it. It was like and then some, some
- 31:38of those same ones rather doing the 303030 workouts.
- 31:41So that's just. 2. Like it's a lot more fun when
- 31:46people do their own thing and one or two maybe that are
- 31:49consistent is OK. Especially I think if it's a
- 31:51strength workout, it's good to know that aw man, that guy's
- 31:56really weak overhead. He just got lucky that it was a
- 31:58clean jerk ladder or a clean ladder and not a snatch ladder
- 32:01because he wouldn't be going to the game.
- 32:02So in a way, I think that it being the strength workout is is
- 32:06a good thing. But I think this goes to show
- 32:09you how tiring it can be. Well.
- 32:14And I think. Especially when some of the same
- 32:15athletes are doing it, you know what I mean?
- 32:17Because it's not like, like, you know, athletes get to go to
- 32:20multiple things and they do it and they did and they did it in
- 32:22the in affiliate one too, which makes it like OK, like.
- 32:26Yeah, like, like Olivia Kerstetter has to do it this
- 32:29weekend at TFX. And I know.
- 32:31She's going to win it. Like sure.
- 32:34Yeah, and I mean, you know, we'll get to it with these
- 32:37events, but I don't believe in coincidences that are this
- 32:42broad. But there for a little while,
- 32:45like after Fibonacci, the overhead walking lunge was the
- 32:48thing. People would do it.
- 32:50People did it in elimination style workouts.
- 32:52People, people just love the overhead lunge.
- 32:54They loved it. Then it went away.
- 32:56It went away for years. Wadlin had a single arm.
- 33:00Mayhem had a single arm. French Throwdown had an axle
- 33:04bar. I have dual kettle bells.
- 33:06An affiliate has dual dumbbells. Come on.
- 33:09World Fitness Project has the finale.
- 33:12Had doubled. You can't just I just don't
- 33:14believe that all these programmers just all of a sudden
- 33:17this year was like, you know what, we should bring back the
- 33:20overhead lunch. I think people talk a lot more
- 33:24than they than they admit, but I kind of wish I was one of those
- 33:29dudes because I don't talk to anybody.
- 33:30That's this is a good point right here.
- 33:38I would I would actually push back that maybe Taurian will do
- 33:42a classic like back. Out.
- 33:45Or like lift, yeah. So I mean, who doesn't want to
- 33:49watch Gee and even guys like Jake Douglas, like super strong
- 33:52too. I mean, I'm sure I'm sure he's
- 33:53in the field, right? So.
- 33:55Yeah, all the, all the. Pyrotechnics and everything too.
- 33:58I mean, that's an electric atmosphere.
- 33:59Everyone wants to watch people lift heavy.
- 34:01So. I I just want some spotlights.
- 34:06Yeah, I think when like the other news that came out this
- 34:08week about the last chance qualifier, I think a lot of
- 34:11people said why did you just give 12th place to the last
- 34:15chance qualifier? I think goes to your point of
- 34:18it's the same programming, right?
- 34:20Like my concern when Heavy Isabel was going to be
- 34:24programmed every time is like somebody like Emily Rolf is
- 34:28going to struggle to get in because of that one strength
- 34:32workout. Right.
- 34:34And I get that the semifinals have used to be, you know, last
- 34:36year was the same program and all across the board.
- 34:39But when you go to the sanctional type structure and
- 34:44athletes are to have some type of options available like you
- 34:49would expect them to be able to have.
- 34:50Maybe I'll like a different type of programmer or, you know, over
- 34:54the over the years, you can go somewhere else.
- 34:56The Last Chance qualifier gives these athletes a different path,
- 35:01different workouts, still testing them in a different way,
- 35:05but they're not limited to buy 30 heavy snatches.
- 35:09I think one of the workouts for last chance qualifier is going
- 35:11to be heavy Isabel. I sure hope not.
- 35:15I disagree. I'm I'm, I'm kidding.
- 35:17I thought, I didn't think you guys would take me seriously,
- 35:19but you did. So let's just move on, all.
- 35:22Right heavy, Isabel. I don't think there's too much
- 35:24to talk about. Good news is it's the first one
- 35:26like Jr. said, so we'll move on. Friday afternoon Regionals
- 35:32Revenge the Hundreds 100 slash 80 calorie Echo bike 100 toes to
- 35:37bar, 100 bar facing burpees 100 front squats at 115 slash 85
- 35:44lbs. A long workout.
- 35:48Yeah, long a long old school workout, right?
- 35:52So I mean, we can go way, way back guys.
- 35:56The 1st 100th shipper is Angie. That's the first 100 shipper,
- 36:02right? 100 pull ups, 100 push ups, 100
- 36:04sit ups, 100 squats and then regionals one year.
- 36:07I think that one that was like 100 overhead squats, 100 pull
- 36:11ups, 100 double unders, which back in the day, you know, that
- 36:13would have take I think 2011 that that's probably took some
- 36:16people 5 seconds. It's crazy how far we've come.
- 36:19But then the most recent one, you know, is the one that you
- 36:25remember Khalifa doing like the final week and trying to break
- 36:28the time to be trying to be richest time, I believe.
- 36:30But 120, I'm sorry, 100 wall ball, 100 chest of our 100
- 36:35pistols, 100 dumbbell snatch with the 70 back when no one
- 36:38knew how to touch and go anything and everyone was
- 36:40everyone was doing singles alternating and it was just
- 36:43disgusting. So yeah, I mean, this is kind of
- 36:46a theme throughout, but my primary goal obviously is to get
- 36:50the right two people to games. After that, I think it
- 36:53everything else needs to be a a far second.
- 36:56But I do really like to call back some things that maybe
- 37:02people don't do anymore in their training, like stuff like this.
- 37:06We're like, hey, this is all I'm doing today.
- 37:07I'm doing this 20 minute workout that is not just going to be
- 37:12sitting on three ergs or is not going to be a bunch of running
- 37:15and it's just going to be classic CrossFit.
- 37:17And I'm going to have to deal with these really big sets and
- 37:19try to strategize how to get through them.
- 37:21And then also like this is an opportunity for coaches to
- 37:25really flex and show that, hey, we've tried it a couple
- 37:29different ways. This is the best way we're going
- 37:31to be last off the bike or hey, the calories actually let us get
- 37:3630 to 45 seconds ahead and we're going to need that on the
- 37:39burpees. So that's what we're going to
- 37:40do. Or, hey, all these people are
- 37:43going to be getting to the burpees tired.
- 37:45My plan is to do the first 75 squats unbroken, like whatever.
- 37:49There's just so many different ways you can go about racing
- 37:51this. And I think that a long mixed
- 37:55modality workout like this isn't done a whole lot anymore.
- 37:58And I've had a couple people text me that I've already
- 38:01qualified that are like, I need to do this in my training.
- 38:04Like I just need to do it and and figure it out.
- 38:07Like if I'm putting that situation at the games and you
- 38:11know there's a hundred of something or how am I going?
- 38:13To get through that. So, and I think that people, I
- 38:17don't people might not catch on is the last movement is almost
- 38:21the only movement that you can really race.
- 38:23Like obviously people are going to have like faster paces than
- 38:27other others, but everybody's gonna have their pace that
- 38:32they're holding on the Echo bike.
- 38:33Nobody's like sending 100 cows in the echo bike.
- 38:36Everybody's gonna break their toes to bar up in sets and then
- 38:39the bar facing burpees are just going to be like a steady pace
- 38:41through the whole thing. They probably advance it at some
- 38:45point. And then and then the front
- 38:49squats will be where you can make a choice.
- 38:51You have a game plan, but that's where workout gaming, like being
- 38:57good on game day, happens. You see, he's 10 reps ahead of
- 39:00me. I'm going to go unbroken through
- 39:0450 to just to to break this man right or or girl.
- 39:09Yeah, it's your point. It's your point, John.
- 39:11Like it's a lot easier to jump back up onto the pull up bar for
- 39:15a set of five than it is to pick up that bar again after you've
- 39:18dropped it. It's just a lot different in
- 39:21that time of the work. Every time you put that bar
- 39:22down, the clock starts and it just melts away.
- 39:28So your point about the Echo bike though, because it's
- 39:32calories specifically, that's a whole other conversation that
- 39:35I'm just very firm on. But there are people that 70% is
- 39:40a 12 calorie lead compared to someone else.
- 39:44So they're not going for it. They're just like, hey, this is
- 39:48my comfortable pace and it's just faster than yours.
- 39:50However, toast a bar burpee front squat, the big long
- 39:55athlete, like that's all they get right in this world.
- 39:59They they get that first movement and then after that the
- 40:02the deck's a little bit stacked against you after a workout that
- 40:05should have been, you know, pretty good for you just to, you
- 40:07know, to start the competition for this workout.
- 40:11I just want to talk about testing because to me, that's
- 40:14the most important part of this. I mean, four people came and did
- 40:17an entire simulation weekend with two hours rest in between
- 40:20in a closed gym. It was extremely like the floor
- 40:23was marked out the way it's going to be.
- 40:26And then I had some remote testers and the remote testing
- 40:29athlete that did this work out. Their splits were 522-520-5541
- 40:36and five O 7. That's going to be tight.
- 40:39So that's about 21 minutes. That athlete is Colton Merton's.
- 40:43So if you think Colton so you so you think Colton's doing the
- 40:46burpees in 541, you think people aren't going to be just going
- 40:50through mud? Like listen to those splits.
- 40:53Those are really, really consistent splits.
- 40:56They're pretty splits. And, and obviously closing on
- 40:59the squats for Colton is not going to be what most people can
- 41:01do. So yeah, he did it.
- 41:03You know, he did a workout that day or maybe 2 and then hit this
- 41:05for me and you know, he's not in, he wasn't in peak shape when
- 41:08he did it, but I knew, hey, he's in the West.
- 41:11He could win this workout. I need to know if the cap is
- 41:14appropriate and I need to know if someone can go sub 20 on.
- 41:16That that's that's like 45% slower than when he did it
- 41:19against Berman. The 100 bar facing burpees.
- 41:23He. Was he was like 333?
- 41:25Oh, you're pacing? No, I think it was 3/19.
- 41:27Was it? Yeah.
- 41:28So I mean that's over 50% slower.
- 41:31Yeah, and I, I, you know, I talked to him about it.
- 41:33I was like, hey, are you cool if I tell people that you tested a
- 41:35couple of these and what your times were?
- 41:36He's he's fine with it. So I just think it's good to
- 41:39talk about him specifically because a lot of people are
- 41:42going to be wondering what's possible.
- 41:44And I told him to do transitions and every like roll the bar
- 41:47every 25 burpees, roll the bar every 25 front squat, like he
- 41:52did all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, this workout
- 41:55originally was back squat, and that would have been a hey, do
- 42:00people want to hold on? It kind of.
- 42:02Kind of came down to a when they drop it, though, how do they do
- 42:06it? Do we let them bail?
- 42:07Do they bring it in front? Do they?
- 42:09And it was just a little bit clunky.
- 42:11So we, we, we, we toured around with some other movements.
- 42:15The, the yoke was originally front rack carry.
- 42:17And then I was like, hey, well, let's just switch the two.
- 42:19Let's get him in the back rack once and get him in the front
- 42:21rack. There's a lot of legs.
- 42:23There's a lot of midline here. There's a lot of shoulders going
- 42:26from the burpee to holding that front squat.
- 42:29I mean, the testing athletes that it was as much shoulders as
- 42:33it was legs. So Angelo got capped.
- 42:36Taylor did front rack step UPS because he couldn't squat and
- 42:40still finished and Lindsay got capped and Molly Mcgrandy
- 42:45finished so 2 got capped, 2 finished so that that was that.
- 42:48Let me know that 25 is not a Gimme and that people will get
- 42:52capped, but I do want a lot of people to feel all 400.
- 42:56Of these reps yeah, they're they're getting capped at like
- 42:5880 front squats, they're not getting capped like without even
- 43:01getting. To the front.
- 43:02Oh yeah. And they're and they're going to
- 43:03be fighting for those squats. So whatever they get, they're
- 43:06going to feel the rest of the time.
- 43:07For sure. The one, the one thing I thought
- 43:10about when I saw this workout was the pill squat workout from
- 43:14Crucible, and I wondered how many coaches were good enough to
- 43:19go through, analyze your programming over the past couple
- 43:21years, see that one and be like, he's probably going to try
- 43:24something like this. Well, the year before in the
- 43:28retour there was 100 shipper. It was a. 100 Trapeze, toasta
- 43:32bar 100 and kettlebell snatch. 100 boxed up over 100 kettlebell
- 43:38squat and I was a little bit annoyed that Colton did that in
- 43:41like. 14 or 15? Minutes needed some redemption
- 43:45with one that was a little a little hard actually, Angelo was
- 43:49hoping I would use the pill for this workout for the squats and
- 43:52just kind of bring that back but rogue was extremely generous and
- 43:59they don't they they don't carry those so I was like barbells
- 44:04fine, you know so. Yeah, this one, this one's going
- 44:08to be one of my favorite ones to watch.
- 44:10Yeah, typically the the 25 minute workouts are not, you
- 44:15know, it's a little rough to watch, but I mean, I think this
- 44:17one. I think you're going to.
- 44:19You're going to see them. Fighting, you're well, you're
- 44:21going to see all the big guys in front and then you're going to
- 44:23see, and they probably can hold on to it through the Tosa bar,
- 44:26but then you're going to see this like pretty shift with all
- 44:29the little flying burpee guys from the big guys.
- 44:34It's going to be really fun. Yeah.
- 44:36Yeah, and last thing about this, I know we need to move on like
- 44:41bar facing burpees standard is going to be get over the bar
- 44:44anyhow. So as much as it's cringe for me
- 44:46to watch people step over the bar and just turn around and get
- 44:50down. Hey.
- 44:51If I'm not in the, I'm not. I'm not, I'm not interested in
- 44:57the subjectivity of a 12 take off or whatever on this and a
- 45:02hop versus a step. So hey, if you want to be more
- 45:05athletic looking and you want to go faster than jump over.
- 45:08But if you don't just step over and you can go a little slower
- 45:11like that's fine too. What we are bringing back though
- 45:13is the 17.1 line that bisects the object.
- 45:17So everyone will be doing true perpendicular bar facing burpee
- 45:22and not that pseudo 45° angle. So it'll be one hand and 1 foot
- 45:26on either side of the take one. Tyler, I think me and you
- 45:29sometime during this during the weekend after they do this, we
- 45:32should partner work out and see if we can beat the the winning
- 45:34time. Yes, with all the time we have,
- 45:37we will definitely do that. Dude.
- 45:38Well, we could do it in the morning, it'd be fine.
- 45:41You never know the WPTH. Do we can part do let's be
- 45:47partners and do it. I forgot we got to do that.
- 45:51We do a lot of stuff. I, I, I think it would be fine
- 45:55if we can. If we can do it, we should see
- 45:57if we can beat the winning time. You got to get ready for for
- 46:00Isabel though, John. Yeah, you know what?
- 46:03We're just going to see what happens.
- 46:07I I hurt, I hurt myself last grid practice.
- 46:10So like I haven't been able to touch a barbell and like like 5
- 46:15days. So I'm hoping that I'm OK for I
- 46:17got to be OK for Saturdays next Saturday and then Isabel's after
- 46:21that. So I'm just trying not to hurt
- 46:22myself. And then, you know, whatever
- 46:24happens, happens, I might get out there and just try to touch
- 46:26and go 12 in a row and then be like I blew, I blew up myself on
- 46:30purpose, right? So.
- 46:33I could see that happening. Yeah.
- 46:34Good Saturday workout #3 Yoke repeater, 8 rounds, 400 meter
- 46:41run, 40 foot yoke carry at 420-5305.
- 46:47All of these. Workouts are my favorite
- 46:48workout. Every single one of them.
- 46:50So this obviously the name here. I should bring back some bike
- 46:55repeater, which was essentially just a lot of hard biking with a
- 46:59interruption of 1 legless rope on every round.
- 47:04So this is that, right? This could definitely just be
- 47:06called the the, the, the run, the run interrupter, right?
- 47:11And if it same way as the yoke repeater.
- 47:14What's cool about this workout for me is that I think it's the
- 47:17most misunderstood workout of the whole weekend.
- 47:19I think a lot of people look at it and they will look at it and
- 47:21just say, oh, OK, so the yoke doesn't matter.
- 47:24It does matter and it matters a lot.
- 47:27And the best way I can describe it to you is just to speak to
- 47:29the testing. Like on paper, in my opinion,
- 47:32Taylor is a better runner than Angelo.
- 47:34Angelo is a good runner, but Taylor's a very, very good
- 47:36runner because of, and they were like side by side the whole
- 47:41workout, like within two or three seconds the whole workout.
- 47:44The original version was 10 rounds of 340.
- 47:48But because the venue landscape and having to run a lot inside,
- 47:51we decided just like them, to run a little bit so people could
- 47:54pass each other a little easier. The hesitation late, maybe not
- 48:01even hesitation, just the speed at which Angelo could get the
- 48:04yoke on him and walk with urgency.
- 48:07And it's guys basically like you're running with the yoke,
- 48:09like you're not walking slowly. You are trying to get it on and
- 48:13off of you as fast as you possibly can.
- 48:16You're still moving that thing over 100 yards with 400 and 300
- 48:20lbs on your back. It does do something to your run
- 48:24that it's hard to describe until you feel it.
- 48:26And Angelo ended up winning that work out barely.
- 48:29But on paper, if it was just a two mile run, I would not bet
- 48:33against Taylor. So just the the opportunity
- 48:38every time that maybe lose a second because you walk a little
- 48:41bit faster. I mean, it's really 10 seconds
- 48:43every yoke, so you're only looking at 80 seconds of a 15
- 48:46minute workout. But yeah, the yoke does matter.
- 48:50It is heavy enough to matter if it was lighter.
- 48:53Like Midline Madness is a lot like this workout.
- 48:56The berm run, empty yoke. That was really, really light.
- 49:00It was about the berm, right? I think this is heavy enough to
- 49:04affect the run, Lindsay and Molly.
- 49:07Lindsay's a far better runner. Just plain run.
- 49:11Molly kept it really close because I think the yoke just
- 49:13didn't affect her as much as it affected Lindsay.
- 49:16I mean going to it and leaving it.
- 49:18So prime cap wise, a lot of people will look at this and
- 49:21say, oh wow, there's 2 long workouts.
- 49:23You never really see 2 long workouts.
- 49:25To me, that 15 to 17 minute time domain just doesn't get hit a
- 49:30lot unless it counts as a long test.
- 49:33And for me, I think that's a really important time domain and
- 49:36it's not a 20 minute plus time domain.
- 49:39I just think hard running, proving you can run before you
- 49:42get to the games is maybe the most important thing you need to
- 49:44show. So yeah, this will do that, but
- 49:48also gives people an opportunity to use and implement in a
- 49:51workout and not an accessory session that they probably don't
- 49:55use in a high intensity workout like.
- 49:57This, yeah. I mean you think about 8 rounds.
- 50:00I mean it. You have to be running fast to
- 50:04get you have time cap like if you're doing if you're doing 8
- 50:08minute miles. You're pushing it.
- 50:11You're barely going to finish and probably don't.
- 50:15Dude, if you're doing 8 minute miles, you're not here.
- 50:18There you go. I was going to say like.
- 50:19Well, we don't know that though. Like they got in through the
- 50:22open. Kale's not doing it, dude.
- 50:25Like. For me it's a A2 minute round
- 50:29with it, like I said, with a 10 second yoke.
- 50:31And let's just say there's a few seconds right?
- 50:33You you pause or you have to run back out of your lane.
- 50:36So every other round you're running a little bit farther.
- 50:40All that into consideration to me is like, hey, this is a 2
- 50:43minute round workout unless you're just not a good runner.
- 50:46So I think the fastest times though will probably be 1415.
- 50:51Yeah. And I'm sure the run will be ish
- 50:54and we will make sure we let everyone know before the hey,
- 50:57the run is actually 410 or the run is actually 372 or whatever.
- 51:01You know, we'll, we'll let everybody.
- 51:03We'll film the walk. We'll show you excuse.
- 51:06Me. This was not exactly 400 meters.
- 51:08I got my wheel out and everything.
- 51:10Three times we're going to do that morning of we're.
- 51:13Doing that that. 'D be good.
- 51:15This is. Not a boring workout, but in a
- 51:17way it's like my favorite one because I think it's the most
- 51:20easily overlooked and this workout hurts man.
- 51:24And 100 toes to bar yoke carry. We're still going to get on the
- 51:28GHD. Like the midline just gets hit a
- 51:31lot all weekend long. Yeah, I like this one.
- 51:34I mean, I I'm sure probably 99% of the athletes that are going
- 51:38to be there have done a yoke carry in training.
- 51:43I'm not sure all of them have done it in a competition.
- 51:48And I don't, and I don't think a lot of them have done it with a
- 51:50monostructural element. I think they usually do.
- 51:53It yeah, go ahead. Carry the yoke, run back, carry
- 51:58the heavy sand back, run back, carry the heavy farmer candles
- 52:01and it's like a strongman medley type situation.
- 52:03Or it's carry the yoke, you know, do some GHD, do some yoke,
- 52:08do a rope climb like the one WFP did is like a very like classic
- 52:12combination of just same structure, right?
- 52:15Just an interference in between the rogue climbs, but a little
- 52:17bit more classic strongman gymnastics mix.
- 52:21I just think this one is not one that people are going to see and
- 52:25have done anything like it before.
- 52:27So you just kind of like you get what you get on this workout,
- 52:31like you got two weeks, but you ain't just going to get good at
- 52:34this workout in two weeks. Speaking of that, I don't think
- 52:37Mayhem put out like they put out the workouts, but they didn't
- 52:42put down the breakdown workouts or like in testing what they
- 52:46did. Is this the first time we've
- 52:48ever gotten like, an analysis of what is possible with Colton
- 52:51Taylor Angelo before him tested? They tested but.
- 52:56They didn't make it public, right?
- 52:58I think that like Dave writing his book in 2018, I think he
- 53:04said he's working on another one.
- 53:05Like that kind of stuff's fascinating to me because what I
- 53:07always want to know is, OK, this is what the athletes on game day
- 53:13who tested it, how did they come up with Rep schemes, changing it
- 53:17time caps, all that. Like for instance, like like for
- 53:20boss, like I want to know who tested the dumbbell, the
- 53:23dumbbell over headlines GHD. Like I just want to know because
- 53:26I think it's cool to know. Like was it like Hobart moves
- 53:29amazingly? Did he test it?
- 53:31Like did did Boz do it himself with 50s?
- 53:33Did he do it himself with 70s? Like I just think stuff like
- 53:36that, even after the fact, would be awesome.
- 53:38So like for the programmers to say, hey, this is what I had at
- 53:42first. This is how I changed it.
- 53:43I mean, yeah, there's probably only 100 people in the world
- 53:46that care, but I just think it would be cool because being able
- 53:49to speak to all the decisions you make would make me probably
- 53:54be more or less critical of it. Like a Beck.
- 53:56Oh, OK. So This is why they did it.
- 53:58OK, cool. Well, this the story of the.
- 54:00Fibonacci finale. I mean he was like we had Julie
- 54:02and Alcarez tested. I didn't know he was literally a
- 54:06God at deficit handstand push ups and he did the workout he
- 54:10finished the workout under 6 minutes and turns out, oh, he's
- 54:14one of the best in the world of this freaky movement and the
- 54:17fittest in the world can't do it like that and I I didn't know
- 54:21that now I do I like that's that's those stories are cool.
- 54:25I. Agree.
- 54:25What do you what do you think releasing talking about the the
- 54:30athletes who tested it, their scores?
- 54:31What do you think that that does to the athletes who are
- 54:33listening and and looking for tips right now?
- 54:36Like how do they? Proceed over the.
- 54:37Next two weeks. I hope it gives them some really
- 54:40good data because I, I think at this point it's a level playing
- 54:43field. And like, if people want to
- 54:45reach out to Taylor and be like, hey, dude, you know, I tested
- 54:50Metal March and like, I don't know, I was a little bit
- 54:53conservative first. I didn't finish it.
- 54:55Like Taylor's probably going to be like, hey, dude, you can't be
- 54:57conservative on this workout. You're the muscle.
- 55:00The muscle fatigue is coming and it's two on, one off, 2 on, one
- 55:05off. If you can squeak out another 10
- 55:07feet on round one, you do it. If you can climb the rope a
- 55:09little bit faster on round two, you do it because eventually
- 55:12it's going to and you just when you when you want to go faster,
- 55:17you're not going to be able to go faster.
- 55:18So I hope that they, I mean, if I were anyone, I would be
- 55:22reaching out to those people and asking questions about it, but.
- 55:26You know, I'm sure Colton will appreciate all the DMS.
- 55:29Speaking. Speaking of Metal March, we have
- 55:31our intervals. It does not feature jump ropes.
- 55:34To cap it off, 223 intervals one minute between 50 slash 40 rogue
- 55:40pro double unders, 4/3 cut rope, rope cut rope climbs and then
- 55:47Max distance in the remaining time dual kettlebell overhead
- 55:51walking lunges until you complete 240 feet which is 6
- 55:55times down the 40 foot path. This looks gross.
- 56:02Yes, the work rest. I think it's really necessary.
- 56:06Gosh, I remember when the original intervals came out and
- 56:09just how creative and how cool I thought it was and watching some
- 56:13epic blow ups and watching Matt when Dave was like it's not
- 56:18possible to do in three. And he's like give them that
- 56:20look like I'm going to die try and like that, like that kind of
- 56:23stuff. Just those are the memories that
- 56:24I have and and advancing down the floor and and, you know,
- 56:28telling the story and just like this like idea of a buy in work
- 56:33out that a lot of people just did in training and they didn't
- 56:35really think to do it in competition.
- 56:37And it ends up being one of the one of the coolest format.
- 56:40So 2017 had to cut rope at regionals and a chipper.
- 56:46It was also heavy wall balls. As I remember the year before
- 56:49they went to the ranch and they did heavy wall ball at the ranch
- 56:52and back in the day, we saw that clear trickle down year to year
- 56:56and it was so cool. It was like, hey, we did 200 LB
- 56:59kettlebell deadlifts. The next year you got 150 LB
- 57:02kettlebell deadlifts. Like it's like you saw that,
- 57:06hey, if we're doing at the Games, you need to be ready to
- 57:07do it at regionals. If we're doing it regional, you
- 57:09need to be ready to do it in the open or whatever.
- 57:11So, yeah, bringing back the cut rope, the Rogue Pro double
- 57:16under, unless you've been to Rogue or you competed at
- 57:19Wadapalooza a few years ago and did that flip sled workout, you
- 57:22probably have had no competition where they use that jump rope.
- 57:26So there's a lot, you know, there's the drag rope and you
- 57:29know, Bellitis has that has that cable that, you know, they're
- 57:33sponsoring a lot of workouts, a lot of them.
- 57:35But this one is different, right?
- 57:36Having the handles that are weighted and releasing it early
- 57:41enough so that the outliers that are 6, four or 4 foot 10 can go
- 57:47on Rogue and buy their own and size it and just bring it to us
- 57:50the competition and be like, here's my rope and we'll inspect
- 57:52it and be like, you're good to go.
- 57:53Like it's really important for me and Wilson, the athlete
- 57:56experience in a way of like, hey, if we're going to use
- 58:00something that not a lot of people have, let's provide it
- 58:04for them and let's tell them the sizes that they're going to get
- 58:07access to and then they can make their own decision.
- 58:09If they need something different, they can bring it
- 58:11with them. So I'm really excited about
- 58:13this. I don't know if anyone can do it
- 58:16in three intervals. Taylor was really, really close.
- 58:19And I think honestly, he would, he would probably win this
- 58:23workout in whatever field is there because he's so good at
- 58:27the cut rope. There's a lot of athleticism
- 58:29there. And if you don't practice that,
- 58:31it's hard to be really, really efficient, especially when
- 58:33you're blown up. And then if you have good grip
- 58:37endurance and if you're a good upper body puller, do you have
- 58:40good overhead position? Because if you have the grip in
- 58:45the pulling but your overhead position is not good, it's
- 58:48really hard to do. Well, Tyler.
- 58:49So I'm I'm going to do really well with this one.
- 58:52I've got a good chance here. It's just like you.
- 58:56Want to go back? You want to go ahead and add in
- 58:57this one, Tyler. Absolutely.
- 59:00I don't know if I can get through the 1st bite and I'll be
- 59:02honest with you. You can.
- 59:04Did Taylor do the the catch and play up between the the thighs?
- 59:08Is that how? We no.
- 59:09It's but actually I went and watched that and Brent do it the
- 59:14following weekend. And you know, Brent's one of the
- 59:15best in the world at life list, but he's like, hey, I can, I'm
- 59:19tall enough to where I can do no legless.
- 59:21And I texted him about it. He said, Yep, easiest event went
- 59:25in my career right there. You know, 'cause he was, he was
- 59:28tall. It was heavy wall ball.
- 59:29It was overhead walking lunge. It was double under like it was
- 59:32just wheelhouse. And he got through those rope
- 59:35climbs and his arms weren't blown up.
- 59:37So anyone who anyone who hasn't done a cut rope climb before,
- 59:43it's very different. If you think about how a rope
- 59:45touches the ground, hopefully not too much at your gym, it's
- 59:48kind of anchoring the rope. So when you go to clamp it, it's
- 59:51got that weight. But when you are missing 5 feet
- 59:54of the rope off the ground and you go to clamp, it just kind of
- 59:57swings around everywhere and you can blow up your biceps just
- 1:00:00trying to find your foot in so. It's a it's a Shorty rope for
- 1:00:02people who don't. Yeah, it's.
- 1:00:03It's what, 5 feet off the ground?
- 1:00:06Generally you'll see athletes do one or two legless pulls into
- 1:00:12it's. Extremely hard to leg lock at
- 1:00:15the bottom of the rope. It's and I don't know why it is,
- 1:00:18but it it it is like you have to have some clearance before you
- 1:00:22can. Lock nothing down there.
- 1:00:23Yeah. It's just really, it's like it's
- 1:00:24almost weightless in testing. When we tested this, the girls
- 1:00:31did a version with regular rope climbs.
- 1:00:33We didn't know if Rogue was going to approve the cut rope.
- 1:00:35So the guys use the cut rope and the girls used did regular
- 1:00:39legless to a true 15 feet. The regionals rig is about 14
- 1:00:43feet. They both did 50 double unders
- 1:00:46and the girls were way behind the guys.
- 1:00:49So I mean, I hope Rison's got some behind the scenes footage
- 1:00:52of this, but like all of us were just talking right after or
- 1:00:55going to the whiteboard talking about different options.
- 1:00:58If we get the cut ropes, if we don't decrease in the double
- 1:01:02unders help the ton. Lindsay retested this workout
- 1:01:05this week and finished it and making that adjustment, you
- 1:01:09wouldn't think it's much, but that that two hundreds is 160
- 1:01:13total. And that 16 rope climb to 12
- 1:01:17rope climb total is massive for the women.
- 1:01:21And so while I think the women will still struggle to finish
- 1:01:26more than the men, I think making that adjustment of both
- 1:01:30the rope climbs and the double unders are really going to help
- 1:01:33the workout feel the same for both sexes, which I think is
- 1:01:36really important in any competition.
- 1:01:39Yeah, this one's this one's going to be good.
- 1:01:41Let's see next one on Sunday, athletes only 302418126 of GHD
- 1:01:50sit ups with a 30 foot hand stag and walk 210-8642 box jump overs
- 1:01:56and then back another 30 feet handstand walk obstacle 42 and
- 1:02:0036 inch box. So I imagine you're doing the 30
- 1:02:03GHD sit ups, handstand walk, 10 box jump overs, handstand walk
- 1:02:08back to the GHD. Correct.
- 1:02:10Yeah. So the the handstand walk is
- 1:02:12there for your transition. And I mean, obviously if you saw
- 1:02:15the the video that we posted that Hiller actually made with
- 1:02:20some clips from that 2018 year and some guys like Matt and
- 1:02:25Brooke and Catherine like doing that obstacle.
- 1:02:28That workout was also a triple G workout like this one.
- 1:02:32So it was ring muscle up, handstand obstacle and pistol.
- 1:02:35And outside of the Sanctionel year, Wadapalooza think they did
- 1:02:40it with a power snatch ladder. We haven't seen this stage of
- 1:02:43competition use the obstacle since 2018, although it's at the
- 1:02:47games almost every year. So I was really, really grateful
- 1:02:52that we were able to use it. I have a lot of setups that I'm
- 1:02:55bringing and then we're able to borrow a couple more.
- 1:02:58So we'll have a couple in the warm up area, 10 on the floor.
- 1:03:01And I just think it's, it's one of those things that if you're
- 1:03:03not able to do, if you've been to Crucible before, you've done
- 1:03:07it three or four years. But if you're not able to do
- 1:03:11this, it's I mean, it could, it could end some weekends.
- 1:03:15And this is something I think you should be able to do in this
- 1:03:18volume 300 feet with some interference here on the hip
- 1:03:22flexors and midline. No shoulder interference though.
- 1:03:25Just think there's something you need to be able to do before you
- 1:03:28get to the. Games and I got plenty of time
- 1:03:30to practice. If they can't, like this is the
- 1:03:32time to every day, every other day you try, you figure out how
- 1:03:37to do this. Ramp well remember 2 and
- 1:03:39remember 2 that that reel went out a couple weeks ago.
- 1:03:41So like they've known they've had like a month for this.
- 1:03:44Is there a minimum work requirement for this workout?
- 1:03:47No, the only workout that there's a minimum work
- 1:03:49requirement for is Metal March and that is the complete buy in.
- 1:03:53So you have to do the double unders and the rope climbs or
- 1:03:56else your workout is it workout is it not your competitions?
- 1:03:59Yeah, you just can't go to the second interval.
- 1:04:03So yeah, Pop Ox is going to be very overlooked.
- 1:04:05But other than at the Crosser Games, I think Water Palooza did
- 1:04:1036 inch last year for the team competition.
- 1:04:14They did 36 and 30, but 42 and 36, I mean, there's a reason why
- 1:04:18it's called athletes only, right?
- 1:04:19That is more of the handstand walk movement.
- 1:04:22But yeah, I mean, the 30 box jump overs for people who have
- 1:04:25never jumped on a box higher than 30 inches is going to be
- 1:04:28different. It's going to be different.
- 1:04:30I have some, I have some video footage of some games level
- 1:04:33athletes doing it and it's really funny.
- 1:04:37Do do they finish the box jump overs then skip the last
- 1:04:40transition? They do not, no.
- 1:04:43So you get the full all ten of them, correct?
- 1:04:45Yeah, OK. Yeah, So they're, they're going
- 1:04:47to handstand walk back and the the finish mat will actually be
- 1:04:50where the GHD is. OK, OK.
- 1:04:53There's a cool workout. It's a really cool flow.
- 1:04:57You know, this is one that like people are going to get laughed
- 1:05:03and you're going to look on the floor and you're going to be
- 1:05:05like, oh, they're on round four and that person's still in round
- 1:05:07two. And what's what's good about to
- 1:05:09me about this workout in a descending Rep scheme is early
- 1:05:12on, everyone gets to play. So early on you've got the big
- 1:05:16chunks, the GHD and the big chunks of box.
- 1:05:18So a little bit more time in between the handstand watcher
- 1:05:20versus, but late in the workout, round four, you're getting on
- 1:05:25for 12 GHD. There's the obstacle, you're
- 1:05:27jumping four times. There's the obstacle again,
- 1:05:29you're getting on for six, you're getting on for two.
- 1:05:32Those last four handstand walk passes are so close together
- 1:05:37that like it lets the people who are really good at it show it at
- 1:05:41the end. And the people who can't do it
- 1:05:43at all are just kind of like, hey, we got to play for the
- 1:05:46first 3 rounds. Interesting and testing.
- 1:05:51I knew all four of them would destroy this workout.
- 1:05:54I didn't think all four of them would go unbroken on everything.
- 1:05:57So no one failed a handstand walk.
- 1:05:59Everyone went smooth and fast. They actually were racing like I
- 1:06:05mean Angelo went like 830, Taylor was around 9 minutes,
- 1:06:08Molly and Lindsay were around were sub 10.
- 1:06:11So like this 13 minute cap for some is going to be very
- 1:06:15generous for others is going to be very aggressive.
- 1:06:17And that's what we need on Sunday.
- 1:06:19Like we need, we need some crazy swings.
- 1:06:21And while I think most of the events have swings built in
- 1:06:25every single workout because something specific is being
- 1:06:28tested, that I think this one and then the last one with the
- 1:06:31heavy sandbag is really going to help some people or hurt some
- 1:06:37people's chances at a Games bid for sure.
- 1:06:40Yeah, moving on to the final workout.
- 1:06:42Bag 9 9 Sandbag cleans 12 Ring Muscle UPS 1512122118 Cal Echo
- 1:06:52Rower 1512 Bar Muscle UPS 9 Sandbag Cleans AT200/150.
- 1:07:00This is my favorite workout I bet.
- 1:07:05You know, we can, you know, we could dig into all the movement
- 1:07:09selection and the movement patterns and, and all that kind
- 1:07:11of stuff. But at the end of the day, like
- 1:07:17you need 2 workouts. I think they're limited by just
- 1:07:19capacity. And you have that with the yoke
- 1:07:21and with the hundreds. You need a couple workouts that
- 1:07:23are limited by something body weight.
- 1:07:25You have that with the cut rope and with the hands and wall.
- 1:07:28And then you need a couple workouts that are limited by the
- 1:07:30weight lifting component. That doesn't mean that it has to
- 1:07:33be super heavy or not, but it just that needs to be the thing
- 1:07:37that separates. And while 30 and 24 muscle UPS
- 1:07:40probably will cause some separation, this workout is
- 1:07:43about the back. And for a lot of people that
- 1:07:46really good technically with the barbell.
- 1:07:48But when you have to just move something weird over and over
- 1:07:51again, it just destroys you. So this is the most compelling
- 1:07:57like discrepancy of testing data.
- 1:08:03Taylor did this workout. He went touch and go on the 1st
- 1:08:069 unbroken on muscle UPS. Rode like a 1200 which I'll get
- 1:08:11to which is really important. Does sixth touch and go with a
- 1:08:1610 foot transition after each 3 so 3?
- 1:08:19Held. Carry three touch and go carry
- 1:08:22does 3 singles at the end of the workout, goes low fours.
- 1:08:27OK, Angelo does it, doing the same thing, executing it the
- 1:08:32same way, essentially just having to do singles on the bag
- 1:08:35and goes 2 minutes slower, so 2, so 2 minutes slower.
- 1:08:40So like 4 1/2 and 6 1/2, which call it that, whatever.
- 1:08:44Molly and Lindsay do it. They're a little bit closer
- 1:08:47together, but we made some adjustments to the bar muscle
- 1:08:50UPS. Originally they did fifteens and
- 1:08:52the back half was just really hard and I was like, OK, we need
- 1:08:55to adjust that. Like some workouts they can do
- 1:08:57the same, but this one they probably need to do 12.
- 1:09:02Alex Gazan tested it for me. Didn't know she was testing a
- 1:09:06workout like for that she thought it was for Crucible.
- 1:09:10She did the first nine touch and go, did the muscle UPS unbroken.
- 1:09:15Rode the same pace as Taylor, 1200 for her 18.
- 1:09:20Did singles, did singles on the bag and barely beat, barely beat
- 1:09:28Taylor. Colton was right around Taylor's
- 1:09:30time doing similar like touch and go at 1st and then having to
- 1:09:35do singles in it. So Taylor by far handled the bag
- 1:09:38better than anyone. But other than the yoke, I think
- 1:09:41the most misunderstood part of this workout is the row, and
- 1:09:43I'll explain. The row only matters for the
- 1:09:46best. And in that description I just
- 1:09:48gave you, if you can do the bag really, really well and you're
- 1:09:53really good at muscle UPS, how hard can you row and still jump
- 1:09:57up and do that back half unbroken?
- 1:09:58That's a that is going that will come into play for a lot of
- 1:10:01people who are similar on the back.
- 1:10:03So because Alex got off 1520 seconds on the rower, she was
- 1:10:09able to essentially wipe that away on the back half sandbag
- 1:10:14having to do singles. And I think that's a really,
- 1:10:17really interesting part of the workout is that there's some
- 1:10:21gamesmanship, even though it's a fast workout, like 9 minutes for
- 1:10:24some is they're going to be hoping that the cat hits just
- 1:10:27because they're falling apart with the bag.
- 1:10:29But in a workout that's so short, I think there's a lot of
- 1:10:35strategy. But at the end of the day, you
- 1:10:37either have the option to go touch and go or you don't.
- 1:10:40And that already is going to put you in a deficit because if the
- 1:10:44person next to you is going touch and go, the amount of time
- 1:10:48that you are passing them on, it's really hard to make up on
- 1:10:52the other two movements unless someone just gets on the road
- 1:10:54and they're like, hey, I'm just going to recover on the road and
- 1:10:57I'm going to be on it for 90 seconds and then I'm going to
- 1:10:59rest a lot before the muscle UPS.
- 1:11:00Like do these people really matter anyway?
- 1:11:03Probably not. Like this workout, this finale
- 1:11:06is written for the people who are going to go or not go.
- 1:11:09And then it's like I don't know what she can do on the bag or I
- 1:11:14don't know what he can do on the bag.
- 1:11:16I'm going to take a break on the rings.
- 1:11:17Oh well she is too. OK, well then who can get the 9
- 1:11:19reps done like it's called bag 9 because it's all going to come.
- 1:11:23Down to the last. You know, you know who I would
- 1:11:25have loved to see this do this work out and if if you we could
- 1:11:29possibly reach out to him. I don't know if he is reach out
- 1:11:32able, but is Bronislaw Linkowitz 'cause that is a guy that would
- 1:11:38touch and go the nine and then go 654 on the rings, go 1200 on
- 1:11:44the row and then nine and six on the bar muscle UPS.
- 1:11:48But then he would touch and go the entire 9 on the second-half
- 1:11:52and end up beating everybody. And I mean and Taylor.
- 1:11:55Taylor might be too fit. No, no.
- 1:11:57No, no I'm not. Talking about the fittest in the
- 1:12:00world this field. I dude, I think Taylor's time
- 1:12:05and Colton's time on this because they are able to touch
- 1:12:08and go in the bag and even Alex too because there's not a lot of
- 1:12:14females that are going to touch and go and much less like at the
- 1:12:17end. Like I watch Taylor do it.
- 1:12:20I talked to Alex after she did it.
- 1:12:22It's like, dude, that really hurts like lactic.
- 1:12:25Like if you can go that fast, I mean, the arms just get no
- 1:12:29reprieve. You're wrestling the bag, you're
- 1:12:32pulling, you're hanging, you're pulling on the rower again.
- 1:12:35But she's like at the end, it's just like, it's like meltdown,
- 1:12:39right? Like like everything shutting
- 1:12:41off on those last few sandbag cleans because you're you're
- 1:12:45going so fast and it's such a powerful workout that it hurts.
- 1:12:50If you can make it hurt, it really hurts.
- 1:12:52And some people just can't make it hurt.
- 1:12:55So, and there's going to be a game spot on the line, right?
- 1:12:58For some, I I mean the teams are doing synchronized ring and bar
- 1:13:03muscle up, which is is pretty cool.
- 1:13:05I mean, I think Water Palooza did it first and then Adrian
- 1:13:08programmed it with the thrusters that year in Orlando.
- 1:13:11And this workout was bar all along.
- 1:13:15And I just got really frustrated that I thought we were going to
- 1:13:19be the only people not doing ring muscle ups.
- 1:13:21And it turns out everyone's doing bar muscle UPS this year.
- 1:13:23Not they were like Wilson had mentioned it early on like we
- 1:13:27could do both. And I was like, I don't know,
- 1:13:30that seems kind of it's just not like me to do it.
- 1:13:33And I ended up coming back to him and being like, let's do it.
- 1:13:36And what's important is where the rings are Like at the
- 1:13:39beginning, it still gives the opportunity for people to go
- 1:13:42unbroken if they're really good on the rings.
- 1:13:44And then on the back half, they're doing the easier bar
- 1:13:46muscle up, which kind of still pushes intensity.
- 1:13:49And I think that's really important because while this
- 1:13:51isn't A2 to three minute Sprint, it is still a power output fast
- 1:13:55workout. Like again, you know the winning
- 1:13:57times are going to be sub five and they're going to be people
- 1:13:59that probably get capped. So in a 9 minute workout, having
- 1:14:02people beat you by 3 or 4 minutes I think is is pretty
- 1:14:06cool. And that hearing you talk like
- 1:14:09if, if, if I'm going to go into syndicate, I'm watching this
- 1:14:14right. I'm listening to what you're
- 1:14:14saying and hearing that to be fast, you have to go unbroken.
- 1:14:23On the bag, on the bag and on the bag of the.
- 1:14:25Bag. Like I think Angelo's time.
- 1:14:29Like I think his time of around like 6 minutes is, is a good
- 1:14:32time, a good time because he wasn't messing around.
- 1:14:36He was doing singles on the bag, but he wasn't just standing
- 1:14:39there with hands on knees. He's awesome at muscle UPS,
- 1:14:43which is still important, right? Like how long is your break
- 1:14:47after the row? Are you breaking 15 seconds?
- 1:14:50Are you like stepping right to the bar and jumping off?
- 1:14:53So I think that Taylor and Alex and like Colton's times are
- 1:14:59like, hey, if I need to win this workout, like.
- 1:15:04I got to beat them. I need to go faster than IMAM.
- 1:15:06Look at the workout. One minute, 2 minute, three
- 1:15:09minute, 4 minute, 5 minute, like.
- 1:15:10And that's really impressive when you think about it, that
- 1:15:13they were like sub 4:30. But again, yeah, like if you
- 1:15:19can, you even get like the first three touch and go and then go
- 1:15:24to singles. Like you make up so much time
- 1:15:27because the 200 and 150 is not like the one 5100, right?
- 1:15:30It's just it takes so much more out of you.
- 1:15:33Every Rep but Taylor's been cycling sandbags like since I've
- 1:15:37met him. Like he was sending me videos
- 1:15:39doing 200 LB box step UPS like four or five years ago.
- 1:15:44Like, I just think that some people are just really, really
- 1:15:46good at odd objects and it's just a completely different
- 1:15:50story than a a barbell. Yeah, I'm just thinking like if
- 1:15:53you're 3rd place or say 4th and it's close, like you're hearing
- 1:15:58this like I I have to try it, right.
- 1:16:01Like you can't, you can't do Angelo and think that 6 minutes
- 1:16:03is going to going to get it for you.
- 1:16:05Like you've got to take that risk of, of doing it.
- 1:16:08And what is that? Does that blow up in the last
- 1:16:11those last 9? But you got time to do it.
- 1:16:13You got time to play with it. And.
- 1:16:17I think it's going to be this. It's funny because it feels like
- 1:16:21maybe not, maybe other than the hundreds, but the last workout
- 1:16:25is almost the most strategic in it and who executes their game
- 1:16:30plan the best. I just think we'll see a lot of
- 1:16:32different approaches. Yeah, I think that I think that
- 1:16:37metal March and athletes only are very execution oriented and
- 1:16:42like can't fly too close to the sun.
- 1:16:44Like if I, if I'm not careful, right and I fail a rope climb,
- 1:16:49I'm done. Like I'm like I'll take a I'll
- 1:16:52end up taking a 30th. Or if I go a little too soon on
- 1:16:55a handstand walk and I just, it gets in my head all right, I've
- 1:16:58already missed one. And then it it just becomes like
- 1:17:01a snowball effect. I think John is right in that
- 1:17:04there is a ton of fitness. Here.
- 1:17:07There's just levels of fitness, kind of like the grids, whereas
- 1:17:11a couple of the other workouts are either you got it or you
- 1:17:14don't. And I do like the the strength
- 1:17:19pieces, the first workout and the last one.
- 1:17:22Right. So I, you know, if you think
- 1:17:24about the leaderboard shifting, I could see, yeah, you see the
- 1:17:29geez, you know, in the Olivia curse sitter's up top early on,
- 1:17:35dip down a little bit and they come back strong in the final
- 1:17:38one. And that's their chance to come
- 1:17:39come back and and make it. Dude, I think it's more of like
- 1:17:42a you, you, you see, it's well, I don't.
- 1:17:45I don't think so guys. If if like a lactic acid type
- 1:17:48feeling at the end of it, if that's truly what it brings,
- 1:17:51dude, he ain't about that life. I think more like.
- 1:17:55AI don't think D like those guys on the.
- 1:17:57Border like come back whenever he touched and go the sandbags
- 1:18:00at regionals and made his and got his ticket.
- 1:18:02That's that's kind of what I'm thinking like somebody who, who
- 1:18:05you don't even see coming and they were the only one able to
- 1:18:08do it or they did it the best and then they jumped 5 spots and
- 1:18:11got. That and I don't even know if
- 1:18:14he'd want to put it out there. I mean, I think it would crush
- 1:18:16he'd put it on his his own YouTube.
- 1:18:17But if Bryson has Taylor doing this workout, like, you know,
- 1:18:22that video of Colton doing doing friendly Fran was just awesome
- 1:18:26to watch, like leading up to this workout.
- 1:18:29Like if he's got that footage and he puts it out, I mean,
- 1:18:31that's cool. Like that's cool even to put out
- 1:18:34like the first nine sandbag clean just so people can watch
- 1:18:37that movement and try to dissect it because there's there's a, a
- 1:18:40technique to it, right? Like.
- 1:18:43He's able to do it because of timing and and you know, you
- 1:18:46mishandle that that 200 and it just pushes you over so.
- 1:18:50I like also that you give him the option to be able to do
- 1:18:53touch and go. I feel like so often now you
- 1:18:55don't. You're not.
- 1:18:56Allowed to drop. Yeah, that was something too.
- 1:18:59That was interesting. Like I like going over the
- 1:19:03shoulder, especially if people don't bail to the side and like
- 1:19:06kind of throw it off their bicep and their hips aren't open at
- 1:19:09the top. Like people who do it right.
- 1:19:10I think it looks really good and I think sometimes for singles
- 1:19:13that annoying not being able to go touch and go is is can be a
- 1:19:18good thing based on the workout but in this workout specifically
- 1:19:22you they need to have. That option.
- 1:19:25Of hey, if it was mandated singles, it really would like,
- 1:19:30hey, it's the muscle ups are really important.
- 1:19:33Well, we already have two workouts that the gymnastics are
- 1:19:35really, really important. And then the hundreds, the
- 1:19:38burpees and toast bar are still really important.
- 1:19:40So to me, you don't let them go touch and go and it kind of
- 1:19:44starts to swing the bias of the whole program.
- 1:19:46So that might be a little too deep, but I think that allowing
- 1:19:49them to go touch and go, the workout is supposed to be
- 1:19:53limited by the weightlifting component.
- 1:19:55I think that's this is the right move.
- 1:19:58Yeah. What I like about all this is
- 1:20:00that you've essentially written all my prop bets for me, so I
- 1:20:02appreciate that with giving us the athlete times.
- 1:20:05Thank you. Well, well, and and how many
- 1:20:09athletes go touch and go all nine of the first ones?
- 1:20:12Or does the first guy off the is the fastest time off the bike
- 1:20:19win a heat or lose every heat? Dude, I think, I think with with
- 1:20:23bag 9, you could have like like so many prop bets.
- 1:20:26How many how many people go on broken on both set of muscle
- 1:20:30UPS? Like not many are doing that,
- 1:20:32but the the ones who are the ones that need to win it.
- 1:20:35Like if Luke's in that position, he's doing it, you know, like
- 1:20:40we've seen him on finales just completely go after, especially
- 1:20:43when there's muscle UPS involved.
- 1:20:45Like he did it last year at semis where he crushed the bike
- 1:20:47and then jumped up on the rings. We saw it at the classic.
- 1:20:51Like he's someone I think over. I'm like, if that dude can touch
- 1:20:54and go the 200, like that's a guy that that is going to be in
- 1:20:58it till the very end. Or even like winning time sub 4
- 1:21:01minutes 4 to 4 to 4/24/20 to 44440 to 5:00.
- 1:21:07That's your. That's your.
- 1:21:09That's your toll at the end of at the end of the competition
- 1:21:12weekend with with the game day transitions.
- 1:21:15I think 4 sub 4:30 is a really good profit for both males and
- 1:21:18females. If you were going to predict
- 1:21:22which workouts most correlated to the finals.
- 1:21:27Spins favorite thing. Yeah, I I want it to be the one
- 1:21:30hundreds, but I think it's the finale.
- 1:21:33I think so too, because you're just going to see people fall
- 1:21:36apart in it. Like you're going to see people
- 1:21:37go for it and then they can't do it, and then you'll see people
- 1:21:40go for it and they can do it. And that eventually will end up
- 1:21:44who's who lies where. Well, you know they all three of
- 1:21:49the movements matter. Even the row in the middle
- 1:21:51matters for the best because it's like I need to beat him
- 1:21:55back to the bag and I know he's going unbroken labarre muscle
- 1:21:58up. So the only way I can get to the
- 1:21:59back faster than him is if I choose to row a little bit
- 1:22:01harder. So while all three movements
- 1:22:04matter, it comes down to the bag and for the ones that all three
- 1:22:09movements matter, it's a fitness test.
- 1:22:10It's not just a like like a one thing type test.
- 1:22:16I kind of wanted. I would love it to be the one
- 1:22:18hundreds because I just think that that just that's like
- 1:22:23really classic CrossFit, but I'm probably just a little bit
- 1:22:25biased to the longer time domain, so.
- 1:22:28The question I have about all this is like, so you've been,
- 1:22:33you've been doing CrossFit a long time, you've been
- 1:22:35programming a long time, you've run your own events.
- 1:22:40I guess what's the emotion feel like to now be programming for a
- 1:22:43qualifying spot? 2 qualifying spots for the
- 1:22:46Games. No, I mean it's it really is a
- 1:22:50dream come true. Like I like for years probably
- 1:22:54have just been like, man, I just want that chance.
- 1:22:56I just want that opportunity. Like I don't I'm I'm a nobody.
- 1:22:59I don't really know how to go about that.
- 1:23:01And, you know, most times Dave is programming everything or,
- 1:23:05you know, occasionally some people get to do their own
- 1:23:07thing. Like the sanctionals here, you
- 1:23:08know, it's like, wow, they all get to kind of put their own
- 1:23:11spin on everything. But I also believe that it's a
- 1:23:15it's a really, really like serious responsibility.
- 1:23:19And I think that if you're entering into it with any of
- 1:23:24like your own personal motives, or if you're doing it just
- 1:23:29because you're doing what you like or you're not thinking
- 1:23:32about, hey, my job here is to get the right to people to cross
- 1:23:35with you. So that's it.
- 1:23:37So unless you're approaching it like that, I mean, I take it
- 1:23:41very serious. I mean, for six months, all I've
- 1:23:43thought about is this, right? Like I think about other
- 1:23:46workouts too, but I'm a simple person, right?
- 1:23:49I I have my faith, I have my family.
- 1:23:51I love to train, I love to coach people and I love to write
- 1:23:54workouts. And that's really it.
- 1:23:56Like, so I am, I do this all the time.
- 1:23:59This is this is what I love to do.
- 1:24:01So I know I get passionate and ramble about it, but being this
- 1:24:09come together like it has Wilson trusting me with that job to do
- 1:24:14it. I mean, yeah, so I got to, I got
- 1:24:19to go out swinging, right? Make it work.
- 1:24:21The The funny thing leading up to when we found out about the
- 1:24:26workouts we had like this meeting scheduled for Syndicate
- 1:24:28are. We supposed to say this?
- 1:24:31Yeah, I mean we're working the event.
- 1:24:32It's fine, but it's it's more about the lead in so like JRS
- 1:24:36even through text message like very stoic and I think you text
- 1:24:40me three times like are you stoked for tonight?
- 1:24:42Like you ready to? Find out about these workouts.
- 1:24:45And I was like, a lot of people wouldn't catch like how excited
- 1:24:48you were in that moment. I knew it was a big deal.
- 1:24:51I've been, yeah, I've, I've been like, it's been, it's been tough
- 1:24:56to just not like, you know, I want everyone to see him
- 1:24:59because, you know, you're proud of it.
- 1:25:00But then also too, you're ready for people to like or not like
- 1:25:04them. And liking or not liking them
- 1:25:05doesn't mean they're not a good test.
- 1:25:06It just means it's what people like and that's it's in.
- 1:25:09It's an art, just like a painting.
- 1:25:11All right. We can agree that it might be
- 1:25:13some people's cup of tea and some people might think it's
- 1:25:15ugly, you know, so I do. I do want to say one thing while
- 1:25:19I'm thinking about it. Or Wilson's going to not be
- 1:25:21happy with me. Don't forget everybody.
- 1:25:25Isabel against John Young. Yes.
- 1:25:28Saturday metal March against Taylor Self.
- 1:25:31Sunday, Sunday, athletes showcase against really whoever
- 1:25:36wants it. I know Austin's in the mix.
- 1:25:40I know Taylor's in the mix. Angelo's supposed to be in the
- 1:25:43mix. They're doing athletes only,
- 1:25:46right? So they're doing the handstand
- 1:25:47walk workout. 500 bucks for the winner on Saturday, 500 bucks
- 1:25:51for the winner on Sunday. Shoot, I'll put up.
- 1:25:54And a free JY barbell shirt for the OH.
- 1:25:57Heavy. Isabel.
- 1:25:59No, no, I'll, I'll put up, I'll put up 500 on Friday too.
- 1:26:02So I'll put up 500 for Heavy Isabel.
- 1:26:04So John, you got to we can take some BBC 157 and let's do it.
- 1:26:11If you are interested in competing, there is a limit of a
- 1:26:13response, right? We got 10 lanes.
- 1:26:14We would love to have 10 people do all three of those compete at
- 1:26:20syndicatecrown.com. That's compete at
- 1:26:24syndicatecrown.com. You do have to sign up on
- 1:26:26competition Corner and sign the waiver so that you can get out
- 1:26:30there on the floor. But I put out a text message
- 1:26:32yesterday to like 8 or 9 coaches that all have athletes who have
- 1:26:36already qualified for the games that are in the East.
- 1:26:38And I'm like, hey, if they're going to be here fulfilling
- 1:26:40sponsorship obligations, if if they're going to be, if they're
- 1:26:45going to be just hanging out watching someone else, like,
- 1:26:48hey, do any of these look fun to you?
- 1:26:50Like come do it. It's heavy Isabel, it's metal
- 1:26:53March and it's athletes only. So if if you if you want to just
- 1:26:58get a workout in because you're trying to, she'll keep your
- 1:27:01training up and you want to do something fun and you want to
- 1:27:03set a time to beat. Like I see Danielle comment,
- 1:27:06like I would love for her to come and do athletes only
- 1:27:09because I don't know that anyone would beat her time.
- 1:27:11Oh man, it would be cool to see something like that just
- 1:27:15actually go out there and set a time to beat before the athletes
- 1:27:18actually do it. So.
- 1:27:18The thing that's crazy is, I mean like just like recapping it
- 1:27:22all, every single day you will see one event where athletes are
- 1:27:26doing it that aren't part of the competition.
- 1:27:29You'll be able to seize times that they get, but particularly
- 1:27:32on Athletes Only, I think this would be the first time we've
- 1:27:34seen games level athletes do a workout, particularly with
- 1:27:39Austin on Athletes only where they're not part of the
- 1:27:42competition. They're sort of setting the
- 1:27:43stage for what's about to happen.
- 1:27:45It has no implications on the competition and it'll be a
- 1:27:48really cool showcase. Like I, I think it's really cool
- 1:27:51that we're doing 1:00 every single day.
- 1:27:53Yeah, and I know it's right before the women's first heat,
- 1:27:56but if you're not in the women's first heat and you're a male and
- 1:27:59you're not going to watch Taylor do Metal March, you're insane.
- 1:28:01Like if if you want to see like, OK, this is where I need to be
- 1:28:06at these times. Like, dude, that's like, that's
- 1:28:08like giving you a study guide right there.
- 1:28:10So yeah, if Austin does athletes only like yeah, for sure.
- 1:28:17So buy tickets and show up. I know, like, I'm incredibly
- 1:28:20excited about this competition, but I think you're going to be
- 1:28:22missing a hell of a show if you don't keep.
- 1:28:24Everybody's going to be there. I'll be there.
- 1:28:25Actually, I'll have the RV there.
- 1:28:27It's going to be great. Caleb will be there.
- 1:28:29Sea Beaver. Caleb.
- 1:28:32Yeah. So he's going to learn about
- 1:28:34CrossFit. That's be.
- 1:28:36Great. No, he won't.
- 1:28:39Fair enough. Thank you Jr.
- 1:28:41Yeah. Thanks so much for having me on
- 1:28:43guys, I appreciate it. I appreciate it they.
- 1:28:45Are we're excited. I hope me and Tyler do not let
- 1:28:49you down. You won't.
- 1:28:51It's been, you know, he's doing whatever Spin does, but we're
- 1:28:54we're in it. I'll.
- 1:28:56Be there man. I'll be.
- 1:28:56I'll be everywhere. Thanks.
- 1:28:59Man, thank you Jr., thank you Syndicate, Crown, everything you
- 1:29:03need to know. I know you're excited, Tyler.
- 1:29:07I'm nervous. Oh dude, I I couldn't be I I
- 1:29:13will be nervous like in that I want to execute, but we've
- 1:29:17prepped so much for this. I know no one will mess up and I
- 1:29:22know like I I just can't wait to finally do what we've all been
- 1:29:26talking about doing for four years.
- 1:29:28Yeah, yeah, I but like, like I, it's hard.
- 1:29:30It's hard for me to show my excitement until we're like,
- 1:29:33we're in it. I bet you after like, 'cause
- 1:29:35just 'cause I just don't want to be the, I don't want to mess it
- 1:29:38up, you know what I mean? And and I once I get Isabel
- 1:29:41done, I feel like I'll be like the most excited.
- 1:29:44Once. We're done with the first day,
- 1:29:48you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, it'll be, it'll be
- 1:29:52interesting. You'll be doing some.
- 1:29:54We're all basically going to be on there at some point.
- 1:29:56So it'll be. Show up guys.
- 1:29:59Yeah, it'll be good. All right, let's head over.
- 1:30:04Let's do some blind rankings before we find out if I hate the
- 1:30:07WFP. Let's see here.
- 1:30:09Do you think I do you think I hate it?
- 1:30:15WFP. Are you are?
- 1:30:17You asking us? Yeah.
- 1:30:19I think that you have, I think that you have insight that most
- 1:30:27don't. And I think that everybody's
- 1:30:34talking good about how good the competition was and you know
- 1:30:38it's going to eventually lead to either a big fight or
- 1:30:44nothingness. And you don't want to talk about
- 1:30:47how good it is because you know that's going to be the future.
- 1:30:51And that's, that's, I don't know if that's true at all, but
- 1:30:56that's my assessment of your feelings about it.
- 1:30:58We'll find out. In the meantime, we'll play some
- 1:31:01blind. Rankings.
- 1:31:02I thought that's what we were doing right now.
- 1:31:03Blind rankings. He's obviously pulling up blind
- 1:31:06rankings, John. I dude, I was trying to get
- 1:31:09intimate with you and then you just tried to like you shut me
- 1:31:12down. That's why he showed you.
- 1:31:15Blind Rankings. Look, look, you.
- 1:31:18Were making fun of me. I was trying to watch what I
- 1:31:20what I said, man. I was trying to have the right
- 1:31:23words for it. This week's blind rankings.
- 1:31:31Awful. Let's see, there we go.
- 1:31:34Awful CrossFit feelings. Oh, this is.
- 1:31:38This is this is in a competition.
- 1:31:40What is the last thing you want to have happen?
- 1:31:42What? Is this in McConnell?
- 1:31:44While you're competing. So if you're if you were
- 1:31:47thinking about in two weeks at Syndicate crown, if you're on
- 1:31:51the competition floor, what do you want to not happen to you?
- 1:31:57I was thinking like lactic acid, feeling like like, you know what
- 1:32:00I mean, the panties. But this is different.
- 1:32:02This is. Different this is this is you're
- 1:32:03on you're on everybody's watching you you're on the live
- 1:32:06stream you're on you know everybody's watching it from the
- 1:32:08crowd OK and this happens so we'll find out if what you guys
- 1:32:16think all right first one tripping over the final barbell.
- 1:32:22Five. I mean, you're already done.
- 1:32:25Yeah, Yeah. Good.
- 1:32:26My. Thing is, it's.
- 1:32:27Not that bad, it's good memories.
- 1:32:29Is you're going to get a lot of reels, like it's just funny.
- 1:32:33Yeah, like I, yeah, I, I don't think that's bad at.
- 1:32:36All careful's been careful. There we go.
- 1:32:40It yeah, I think, I think it's like it's.
- 1:32:42Awesome. It's not a big deal.
- 1:32:43We're laughing at words, you know, like you're.
- 1:32:45It's good. You're good.
- 1:32:46OK. I think a lot of athletes would
- 1:32:49hate that though, like it would kill them and it's.
- 1:32:53I think, well, OK, I think it's worse if you're the winner.
- 1:32:58You know what? I'm saying you're right.
- 1:33:00Well, you just won. You want to have your moment,
- 1:33:02right? And then your moment is that.
- 1:33:04So like you just killed everybody, right?
- 1:33:06You should be proud. Like if you're in the middle of
- 1:33:08the pack or even if you're last, like, you know, you're just,
- 1:33:11it's just man, we're having a day.
- 1:33:13I still liked it when Froning dropped it behind him when that
- 1:33:16was still a thing. It's a thing in Grid, so stay
- 1:33:18tuned. No, There you go.
- 1:33:20I'm going to be doing it a lot. Is that how you hurt your
- 1:33:22shoulder? We won't talk about it.
- 1:33:24Go ahead. All right, next one going out
- 1:33:30too hot and then just melting down.
- 1:33:32OK, let's think of what can. Happen the good old Noah Olson.
- 1:33:38Because to me, this is not that bad just because you're like
- 1:33:42you. Do it all the time.
- 1:33:43No, no, no, no, no, no, but like but like you, it's oh, I just
- 1:33:48went out too hot like that's but that's it.
- 1:33:50That's all it is. You know what I mean?
- 1:33:52I blew up because I went out too hot.
- 1:33:53You know why you blew up? It happened.
- 1:33:56Now you're just suffering to get through the event, but it's not
- 1:33:59even, you don't even have pressure to speed up because
- 1:34:03you, you blew up. You know what I mean?
- 1:34:05Like you're just, you just it happens to everybody.
- 1:34:08Everybody knows what it feels like.
- 1:34:09I just don't think it's that of all the bad things that can
- 1:34:12happen, you know, we're talking about bad things that happen,
- 1:34:16right? Like it's not, there's not going
- 1:34:18to be random good things on this list as far as bad things.
- 1:34:21I just don't think that's that that's that bad.
- 1:34:23If you the the thing about going out too hot is if it works you
- 1:34:27look cool as shit. If it doesn't.
- 1:34:30Work well, I think you just look dumb.
- 1:34:32I think we're only referencing when it doesn't work.
- 1:34:34Right. But I think that to me the the
- 1:34:38reason I reference if it goes well is because like it, there
- 1:34:42is that upside of going out too hot.
- 1:34:44You know you've risked it for something, yes.
- 1:34:46It wasn't like it. Not all the time.
- 1:34:48Is it stupid? You were going for it, right?
- 1:34:51And then you just didn't have it.
- 1:34:54And like nobody, I, I mean, like, unless you do something
- 1:34:56really dumb, it's like, you know, go, you know, pull like a
- 1:35:00130 on a marathon Rd. So like you don't want to do
- 1:35:03that like in the 1st. I don't think we're talking
- 1:35:05about that, no. No, no, no.
- 1:35:07But yeah, I think we're talking about like.
- 1:35:09Noah Olson doing the the 223 intervals and don't get me
- 1:35:12wrong, that's not on the road climb way too fast.
- 1:35:15But you can rationalize it as awesome.
- 1:35:16Physically it's horrible but mentally it's fine.
- 1:35:20I'm going 4. I'm like, I'm just saying you
- 1:35:22can mentally rationalize why it happened.
- 1:35:27Yeah. And guys, the comments are
- 1:35:30referencing stuff that's a part of awful feelings, like not
- 1:35:34being able to lunge at the last minute, like the last lunch, not
- 1:35:38being able to do it like, but do you need to do that hot?
- 1:35:41That's that's that might be one of the next things we have.
- 1:35:45That's I mean, I think that's what I like about bag 9 is you
- 1:35:48have to go out hot if you're if you're in a must win like you
- 1:35:51have. You got to risk it to get the
- 1:35:53biscuit, man. Something like that.
- 1:35:55All right, next one up. Depends on the biscuit really.
- 1:35:59And then you're in a haze and stuck in mayonnaise.
- 1:36:02Here we go seeing that Hitler made a video about you.
- 1:36:07Happens all the time. I've had a few of these
- 1:36:09incidents to. Honestly this is 5 for me.
- 1:36:14Most of them are good. I've had one kind of bad one,
- 1:36:16the other two kind of kind of have my back.
- 1:36:20Yeah, that's not the Hillary video I'm thinking about, but
- 1:36:22are. You thinking about like a Hooper
- 1:36:23style video this. Is a good thing.
- 1:36:26These are I felt great I. Think there's a lot of people
- 1:36:29that would disagree with you but.
- 1:36:31It's I mean, if we're talking about CrossFit, like he, he, he
- 1:36:34may say OK, Brooke, like that's. Probably you see the thumbnail
- 1:36:38come out. You're you're.
- 1:36:39Scrolling your Instagram. Stories and it says well
- 1:36:41situation where like. Yeah, like we're like, yeah.
- 1:36:44And you see it and you're like, uh oh, what did I do?
- 1:36:47I would say 2. I think it's the worst thing.
- 1:36:50But I don't even think. I mean like if I'm Brooke and
- 1:36:54I'm seeing that, I'm like, like, he's got a point.
- 1:36:59I screwed up. For you to say that though,
- 1:37:01because it's not you like and when this means like your games
- 1:37:04ticket and then he makes a video about you.
- 1:37:07And I'm not saying she didn't get there because like crossword
- 1:37:10didn't catch it and then Hillary brought it up and then they
- 1:37:12caught it. That's not what I'm saying,
- 1:37:13Dave, but now you have thousands of people saying you shouldn't
- 1:37:19go to the games, right? Like she look at.
- 1:37:23That morning she puts her scores in and next thing you know she
- 1:37:26wakes up the next morning and Hiller has a video showing your
- 1:37:29burpees. How many DMS do you get saying
- 1:37:32you are trash like that is because of him?
- 1:37:36Well, OK, John, so an analogous thing for you is the Big Mama
- 1:37:41outlash. Sure.
- 1:37:45I think I think that was worse than what Brooke is getting.
- 1:37:47Here's the. 1. Huh, here and with the strong
- 1:37:52women thing, Brooke's just saying, hey girl, your chest
- 1:37:55isn't to the ground and. It wasn't.
- 1:37:58Right. Like like.
- 1:38:00Like I I'm not kidding you, it was for for a week a straight
- 1:38:05week. I had 50 DMS saying that I
- 1:38:09should go kill myself for a whole week dude.
- 1:38:14And I'm like man, y'all have need better things to do.
- 1:38:18Honestly I like this is you'd have thought I cheated on my
- 1:38:22wife with my assistant and and and it was the type of DMS I was
- 1:38:27getting. Mitchell probably got less DMS
- 1:38:29on that than. You have wild wild.
- 1:38:32Anyway. So I think that's worse than
- 1:38:35what Brooke is getting. I think.
- 1:38:36I think it's it's a little bit what you say where it's like he
- 1:38:40has a point because I don't think he'll Hiller ever makes a
- 1:38:43video out of like malice. He's just bringing it to light,
- 1:38:47right. And he's and he's right, right.
- 1:38:49Like I think most of the time he's, if not all the time, he's
- 1:38:53right in what he's pointing out. But the backlash that comes with
- 1:38:57it, I think is way out of proportion than what it should
- 1:39:02be. Then what's the worst Hiller
- 1:39:04video CrossFit related? Because I was going to talk
- 1:39:07about Brian Fran, but that's not really a CrossFit video.
- 1:39:10Hip and steel. Yeah.
- 1:39:11Why just? Because he fought him about it
- 1:39:15and like, it turned into like a whole like.
- 1:39:17Well, that's the reaction to it though.
- 1:39:19Like just literally the video, right?
- 1:39:20Like the thumbnail comes out. I mean, Brian, Brian, Brian's
- 1:39:25pretty. I think anytime he says like has
- 1:39:30the worst or the best, like those are always like, those are
- 1:39:35different videos. Those are like he's coming
- 1:39:37after. This, I mean, I do know, like
- 1:39:38when he made the video about Marcus Philly, like it wasn't
- 1:39:41even that like bad, right? But like, I think I remember
- 1:39:45Marcus reached out to him and his initial reaction was, oh,
- 1:39:49no, what did I do? Like, yeah, I'd be worried,
- 1:39:52right? And I think a few others have
- 1:39:53been like that. I think the initial reaction is
- 1:39:58oh crap. The the friend one's definitely
- 1:40:00the I think the top one. I think HQ when they get videos,
- 1:40:06when Hillary post videos, like I think Jeremy Cross, it effed up.
- 1:40:10It wasn't me. See, it's easy and that's why I
- 1:40:13want to give it a three because I'm like, yeah, it wasn't me.
- 1:40:15You know what's? Crazy if Brooke just said that
- 1:40:17when he made that, like like if Brooke is made a joke about it
- 1:40:22and we're like, that wasn't me done, nothing happened, nothing
- 1:40:27happened. Maybe you get penalized like
- 1:40:30like I mean, I think she probably would still got because
- 1:40:32the ring muscle ups are bad too, but like or just be like I was
- 1:40:35in a mirror world and I'm actually the other way around.
- 1:40:37But but like. Nothing.
- 1:40:40Like no, the backlash that she got would not have happened.
- 1:40:43It disarmed everything. At all.
- 1:40:46Instead you make it. I never get no Rep to my burpees
- 1:40:52ever. You know, and, and and you're
- 1:40:55wrong. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:40:58Like it it said you make it this thing and it shouldn't be a
- 1:41:01thing. So.
- 1:41:02Where do you want to put it, John?
- 1:41:04I say to I don't think it's the worst thing ever, but I do think
- 1:41:08it's not great if you wake up in the morning and you see it.
- 1:41:12I will see to John, I think there might be some stuff in
- 1:41:14here that that are better or worse.
- 1:41:16Yeah, shrink that. Get it smaller.
- 1:41:20Why is it not? Come on, come on.
- 1:41:23We got it. Come on.
- 1:41:27We'll just move it down here. Give it a second.
- 1:41:30It's going to move that slow the whole.
- 1:41:32Time. No, you got to be able to grab
- 1:41:33it. It's.
- 1:41:35There we go when that thing goes.
- 1:41:36Towards the corner of the. Screen, just wait for it.
- 1:41:40There we go. There we go.
- 1:41:41All right, next one up. Here we go.
- 1:41:46You got one or three left, no repping your final.
- 1:41:50I think this is devastating, dude, dude, because like you're
- 1:41:56one step away from making it to the games and then you fail and
- 1:42:02then you bring it back. You try to rush it because
- 1:42:05you're like, Oh my gosh, I failed, I need to go and then
- 1:42:08you fail again. It's not just one no Rep on the
- 1:42:11last lunge and ends up being like a minute right and I cannot
- 1:42:17think of, you know, a person that this has happened to
- 1:42:20multiple times that Tyler hates a lot.
- 1:42:23But. That's the worst part.
- 1:42:24About the no Rep on the last lunge is then you have to hear
- 1:42:28me call you a quitter. That's true.
- 1:42:30I don't want to do that, but I will do that.
- 1:42:34So I'm going with #1 I don't want to be called a quitter.
- 1:42:37I I would say #1 it happened to Annika too.
- 1:42:41Yeah, but at World Fitness Project as well.
- 1:42:49No, I yeah, I think that's, it's pretty devastating.
- 1:42:54We're either going to. We got to work on.
- 1:42:59We got to work on that. I don't know what's going on
- 1:43:01right where we want to take that 111 all right number. 3 on this,
- 1:43:05John. The only athlete left on the
- 1:43:10floor. No, that's fine.
- 1:43:11That's. Fine, all of your competitive.
- 1:43:13I don't know. Telling you how to do a muscle
- 1:43:16up. Hold.
- 1:43:17On I. Think that's.
- 1:43:18Go ahead, I'm going to mute myself, my parents.
- 1:43:20Yeah, I definitely think that's a one.
- 1:43:23I hate that feeling when it happened to me.
- 1:43:29It's like there were all these we were at, we were prepping for
- 1:43:32Crash. It was the first workout in the
- 1:43:33swim event at the pool and Taylor wanted to work out and he
- 1:43:37was like do this GHD swim workout with me.
- 1:43:40I am not. I'm like not a bad swimmer, but
- 1:43:43I'm not great. Taylor's pretty decent and it's
- 1:43:45150 GHD setup since interval style.
- 1:43:48Taylor finishes 2 rounds before I do.
- 1:43:51And it's just me and like 60 people just looking at me and I
- 1:43:56felt so stupid. I want to die in those moments.
- 1:44:00I want to disappear, turn into a puddle of goo and just.
- 1:44:05I guarantee like catching on the rope climbs 100 percents.
- 1:44:09Like, yeah, no, this was the worst.
- 1:44:11That was the worst regional moment of my entire career.
- 1:44:15Yes. Bar none, right, like and the
- 1:44:17people are trying to tell you how to do the workout.
- 1:44:19Oh, just just you know, you can do it.
- 1:44:22You can do that, you know, and. Though now that I think about
- 1:44:25it, knowing that you are fit enough and you screwed up on
- 1:44:29execution on a last lunge might be worse because you almost.
- 1:44:33Had it's it's way worse, dude. It's way worse.
- 1:44:35It's in the grip of your hands, and then your grip fails.
- 1:44:38Yeah, I think, I think we did a good job.
- 1:44:42I'll be right back. Yeah, I think, I think 3 should
- 1:44:46be moved to two, sitting on the floor should be moved to two,
- 1:44:49and Hitler should be moved down. But that's just me.
- 1:44:51I think everything else is in order.
- 1:44:53That's fair. OK.
- 1:44:56Good job, John. John.
- 1:45:01Disappeared. You can't comment that.
- 1:45:06Give it the program and then all the athletes just circle around
- 1:45:08like the circle of death. Yeah, the sharks, I feel like
- 1:45:14that used to that happens. That happened more like nowadays
- 1:45:18they don't do it as much. Like every once in a while
- 1:45:20somebody will go back, but a lot of times they just kind of stand
- 1:45:22there and watch you, which. We don't have the spread of
- 1:45:26athletes we used to have like you.
- 1:45:27Those things could happen a lot easier back in the day and now
- 1:45:29it's like it's dwindled down to nothing, so all the athletes are
- 1:45:32kind of qualified. All right, we better, we better
- 1:45:35move on to this. Got 10 minutes and then we're
- 1:45:37going to shut it down. Do we hate the WFP?
- 1:45:41Tyler, you were there. I was.
- 1:45:44I watched it from the live stream.
- 1:45:46John I think watched at least a little bit from the live stream.
- 1:45:50I watched the live stream, I watched it all everywhere.
- 1:45:53Tyler, before we get into that, what were your thoughts of being
- 1:45:57there in person at the UFP Tour Stop 1?
- 1:46:04I've been itching to talk about this for a week.
- 1:46:06I know you guys are like, yeah, yeah, let's hear it.
- 1:46:10So we got, I went there and I was, I was trying to be very
- 1:46:13open minded and I, I made that post on my story that like I was
- 1:46:19asked no less than 10 times, why are you here?
- 1:46:21You guys hate WFP which I thought was hilarious.
- 1:46:24From fans or. Fans, coaches, athletes,
- 1:46:30managers. All of them.
- 1:46:33I even had. One fan come up to me and tell
- 1:46:36me he watches the show. He's he's from Indy.
- 1:46:39And then he almost apologized for going and.
- 1:46:41They're like, no. Dude, like, these are the best
- 1:46:43athletes in the world and they're in your hometown.
- 1:46:45Definitely go. But I thought that was funny
- 1:46:48that he was like halfway apologized.
- 1:46:50Like no, like fuck that. But I went in super open minded,
- 1:46:54like just trying to like I don't want to.
- 1:46:56I don't want to hate anything going into it.
- 1:47:00I think that they like so breakdown.
- 1:47:04They were definitely focused on the athletes.
- 1:47:08Like that's what they said they would do.
- 1:47:10Overly so. OK, I'll swing back around that
- 1:47:13later. The floor was cool as shit if
- 1:47:17you were in person. It looked not great on the live
- 1:47:20stream. It was really cool in person.
- 1:47:26The athlete like warm up area, like it was an entire football
- 1:47:30field. They had a ton of space.
- 1:47:33It was nothing like water palooza where everybody's
- 1:47:35cramped in. That worked too.
- 1:47:38I think it's detriment almost. So I, I went around and I, I
- 1:47:42sort of like talked to athletes that I knew and I knew that
- 1:47:46either didn't like, or they were not paid by the WFP, but we're
- 1:47:50competing there or they were paid by the WFP competing.
- 1:47:55And the thing that I'll say is like the vibe felt like a six
- 1:48:00and one athlete in particular told me like this feels like a
- 1:48:03preseason game, like the, the, the hype was just down.
- 1:48:09I think some of that had to do with the lighting.
- 1:48:11Like if you go into a movie right and the and it's sort of
- 1:48:14dark in there, like everybody's kind of whispering when it was
- 1:48:17between events, like people weren't really loud.
- 1:48:19It was sort of hushed tones the whole time.
- 1:48:22And I think that decreased the vibe of the entire thing and
- 1:48:26that so much like that the athletes felt that it was
- 1:48:29definitely very, very quiet. It felt not not hype. 1 athlete
- 1:48:35in particular told me that though they felt peaked and felt
- 1:48:39ready to be there and wanted to like compete, to win that they
- 1:48:43like, they just felt like there was a gear missing because the
- 1:48:45hype was down. And why did you not speak the
- 1:48:49freak up when Tanner was trying to talk that everybody was
- 1:48:52competing? We weren't ready the the on on
- 1:49:00the back end in what I've heard about the administration of the
- 1:49:03event has been horror stories so much that people who worked the
- 1:49:07event as like either judges or equipment managers, there's
- 1:49:11different things like that said they were completely
- 1:49:13understaffed. I heard one story that I think
- 1:49:17yet he had coolers there and there was water and, and stuff
- 1:49:21in those coolers and they had one cooler for essentially the
- 1:49:27staff. And at one point they took it
- 1:49:29and they were like, the athletes need it.
- 1:49:30At which point, like one of the equipment managers were like,
- 1:49:33there's not enough of us here. We don't even have time to get
- 1:49:36water. But if we did now we don't
- 1:49:38fucking have water. So it's like, I mean, some of
- 1:49:42these people who are running the event have run multiple events
- 1:49:44and like that's like a basic thing, like take care of the
- 1:49:47people. And so it's like when I saw
- 1:49:49these shirts of people matter more, which which people who are
- 1:49:54you talking about? And so it's like somebody said,
- 1:49:57like maybe just athletes matter more.
- 1:49:59Well, just the good ones. I'll I'll let you go 'cause I
- 1:50:05have like a a much longer spiel about what I think this implies
- 1:50:09for the. The future yeah, I want I want
- 1:50:11to play a a quick part of the video here on Train Think Tank.
- 1:50:17They spoke about it and Perrin spoke.
- 1:50:21I think more about the I think it's this was about the
- 1:50:23atmosphere. Let's play a little clip.
- 1:50:25Feel like the environment, I don't know how you guys felt,
- 1:50:27was very laid back and in some ways maybe a little too laid
- 1:50:31back. Like there wasn't, it wasn't the
- 1:50:33pressure of qualifying for the games or on the line, which I
- 1:50:37think maybe help some people relax into it and for some
- 1:50:40people, maybe the first tour people have the game still to
- 1:50:44come. People are waiting for.
- 1:50:46People just finished the online just.
- 1:50:47Finished and they might have been a little bit flat.
- 1:50:51That was the only thing I feel like intensity and mood.
- 1:50:54I didn't feel like there was as much crazy competition between
- 1:50:58people, but as far as what they had laid out for everyone, there
- 1:51:02was more than enough space. Very good warm up area.
- 1:51:05As far as they had all the implements except for the burpee
- 1:51:07blocks I think. Yeah, there's no ballistic
- 1:51:09blocks the. Ballistic blocks was the only
- 1:51:11thing missing they. Brought in extra.
- 1:51:15So I mean, I think Perrin would agree with you, right?
- 1:51:17Like I would say, first of all, go go watch that if you want to
- 1:51:21get a first hand perspective of what they thought, because I
- 1:51:25think all of them were there. No, I think you're I think
- 1:51:30that's right. Like the pre season probably is
- 1:51:35a really good way of putting it. And Kotler, Kotler kind of
- 1:51:40touched on it on Clydesdale this this evening.
- 1:51:45They aren't fighting for a GameSpot.
- 1:51:49It's not all on the line, right? And all of it has been you're
- 1:51:55trying to get points and the final, the final event in
- 1:51:59Copenhagen is worth double. That's where you're going to
- 1:52:01move the most. And so I've heard a lot of like,
- 1:52:05well, you know, it's just one out of three.
- 1:52:07It's not the end of the world like and and Kotler kind of
- 1:52:13spoke about he he he spoke about it really positively.
- 1:52:16But then like, you know, you get all these opportunities, but at
- 1:52:21the same time, like there wasn't that fire, right?
- 1:52:24Like your whole season's not on the line.
- 1:52:26It's not coming down to it. You can be laid back.
- 1:52:29I want to watch people fight for it gets the playoffs.
- 1:52:33Like you don't watch game three of Major League Baseball and get
- 1:52:38that invested in who wins. Like you want your team to win,
- 1:52:42cool, great. But it's just one out of 162
- 1:52:45games. And I get the threes less.
- 1:52:48But there's something about being in the playoffs.
- 1:52:51Playoff baseball in October is way different than regular
- 1:52:54season baseball. NBA.
- 1:52:57Well, I mean, I think I think down said what it needs to be
- 1:53:03and I don't know if the organizers like look at it as
- 1:53:06that on the on the coffee pods and watch show.
- 1:53:10If it's his last question, if you want to, if you can go find
- 1:53:12it. It's been but he I'm sorry for
- 1:53:15putting it on, which if you can't, no worry.
- 1:53:17It was the last question downside.
- 1:53:19But he said that he looked at it like like CrossFit is at Harbor
- 1:53:26freight spin. If you can mute your tab I'd be
- 1:53:29appreciate. It Hey now I'm trying to find it
- 1:53:31for you. Just calm down.
- 1:53:32CrossFit. Harbor Freight new new sponsor.
- 1:53:36That's. Right.
- 1:53:37The CrossFit Games is like the Super Bowl of fitness, right?
- 1:53:40It's the Olympics, right? And the gold medal, whoever wins
- 1:53:43the 100 meter dash is the fastest man in the world.
- 1:53:47And then the World Fitness Project is the Diamond League,
- 1:53:52and it's just for marketing. You can win money doing it.
- 1:53:56It's a big competition. The biggest athletes show up to
- 1:53:58it. But it's never looked at as
- 1:54:01like, who wins? That is the fastest man alive.
- 1:54:04I don't know if he said it more clearly, but do you have it now?
- 1:54:07It's been. I did, yeah.
- 1:54:08Just. Isn't it the bar Palooza that?
- 1:54:11No, but it's a series. The Diamond League's a series.
- 1:54:13Like there's multiple competitions, there's
- 1:54:15championship at the end, like, and I thought it was a perfect
- 1:54:17analogy. I think this is it.
- 1:54:20It's time since now go, you know, with all the competitions,
- 1:54:24the shaft really is big and it is long, tall, all the things.
- 1:54:29But the way I see it is the CrossFit Games, you are the
- 1:54:33pinnacle of the sport. You find the fittest on Earth.
- 1:54:35Everyone knows the title, everyone knows what to turn to
- 1:54:37at that point. And I watch a lot of track right
- 1:54:40now and to compare it, the crossword Games is the Olympics,
- 1:54:43right? You want to come home with the
- 1:54:44Olympic gold? You want to be the fittest on
- 1:54:46Earth. We have Rogue where it's like
- 1:54:48the World Championships happens every year, but it's one of the
- 1:54:50biggest meets you can go to or competitions.
- 1:54:54For our sake. And then you have WFP, which
- 1:54:57would be more like the Diamond League, and you have all the
- 1:54:58best athletes there all the time, consistent season.
- 1:55:03Yeah, they're throwing out. They're throwing out money in
- 1:55:04the Diamond League and winning. That is a big deal because not
- 1:55:08only do you get prize money, you get to grow your brand, whatever
- 1:55:13it might be, continue to compete and establish dominance on your
- 1:55:16competitors. And I think all of those things
- 1:55:18are great opportunities. That's kind of how I see the
- 1:55:20shaft that's. How you see the shaft?
- 1:55:24Barry Mcconnor is Dallin sponsored by Tier.
- 1:55:28Maybe we're not sure we should ask them.
- 1:55:31But now I think the next question should be, do the
- 1:55:37organizers and the people in charge of the WFP, do they see
- 1:55:41it as the Diamond League? Because it's easy for the
- 1:55:44athletes to say that it's easy. And if I was an athlete that had
- 1:55:48a pro card and all this stuff, I would too.
- 1:55:50It's free money that I'm getting, right?
- 1:55:53And like all the Instagram, all the Instagram videos of the
- 1:55:56athletes talking about the WFP, they're paying them.
- 1:56:00You're not going to say bad things about people who are
- 1:56:02paying you. But if if the WFP came out and
- 1:56:08said that's exactly what we are, we're we're the Diamond League.
- 1:56:12We are not trying. We're not what the CrossFit
- 1:56:16Games are like. We want to one day, we want to
- 1:56:20grow, and if we can grow and have the most prize money, maybe
- 1:56:23we can replace it eventually. Like even if they had that game
- 1:56:27planned. Well, there's more money in the
- 1:56:29Diamond League than the Olympics.
- 1:56:30Right. And I think I'm not looking like
- 1:56:32a strongman, like where the Rogue Invitational has way more
- 1:56:35money for strongman than the actual World's Strongest Man.
- 1:56:38But there's only one title that's the world's Strongest
- 1:56:41Man. It doesn't even matter that that
- 1:56:42one has more money. Obviously all the big people
- 1:56:44want to do it, but it doesn't. It's not the title, right?
- 1:56:49But if the organizers looked at it like that, I think everybody
- 1:56:54could be. I think everybody would be all
- 1:56:56about the WFPI. Don't think they do.
- 1:57:00I think the athletes look at it like that.
- 1:57:02I think if it was that, it would be great and I'm all for it.
- 1:57:07I think what you guys are alluding to or know or whatever,
- 1:57:11or rumors, the organizers don't feel that way.
- 1:57:15Go ahead. I want to spend you have
- 1:57:17something before I go off. Would you agree with that
- 1:57:20though, that if it was like that, you'd be all about it if
- 1:57:22that's truly was what it was? Yes, somebody made a point to me
- 1:57:27that they asked some of the athletes when they left, you
- 1:57:32know how you feel about it. And they were like, oh, it was
- 1:57:34good. And he was like, was it really
- 1:57:36good? Like or are you like, if I went,
- 1:57:40if you, if you went to like a semi final and like I asked you
- 1:57:44how it was and it was good, you would say like it was good.
- 1:57:47And that that levity in the good.
- 1:57:49He was like, I think like that's the bottom paid for side of it.
- 1:57:52Is that the the money going towards this is like paying for
- 1:57:56that, that faith and that seeing things through roads, colored
- 1:58:02glasses. Now to hit on what John's saying
- 1:58:05about they want to be the Diamond League or whatever, they
- 1:58:10100% don't. I I said they.
- 1:58:13Should be. That's what they should want to
- 1:58:15be. That's not what they want.
- 1:58:17I'm I'm saying we can get behind it if they were and they're not,
- 1:58:20and that's why we're not behind. It I I understand OK, they it
- 1:58:26was not a secret to like I I'm getting rather frustrated
- 1:58:32because I've heard people say it since is like they're not
- 1:58:34competing with CrossFit. It is not a secret to those who
- 1:58:37are there that they are competing with CrossFit.
- 1:58:42If you just look at like market share, like they are in
- 1:58:45competition with CrossFit, they are like they're taking sponsors
- 1:58:50who would otherwise go to other events.
- 1:58:52Now I'm not saying like sponsors shouldn't go to the best events.
- 1:58:55They should. But what I'm saying is is like
- 1:58:57beyond just market share, they are gunning for taking over the
- 1:59:03CrossFit sphere. This is where I start to have an
- 1:59:08issue. I don't care like run a good
- 1:59:10event. Like, that's great.
- 1:59:12I care about all the other things that matter.
- 1:59:14And to me, and I think what I summed it up best, when I talked
- 1:59:19to somebody notable in the space, they were like, I thought
- 1:59:22you hate, hated this and. Or.
- 1:59:26That no, not in WFP. It took me a little while to
- 1:59:29articulate it. They they were like, it seems
- 1:59:31like a concerted effort amongst your group that you didn't cover
- 1:59:34this and they were like, do you hate, do you really hate the
- 1:59:36WFP? And I said, I'm not going to
- 1:59:38speak for the group, but I think for me, what I summarize all
- 1:59:42this as is until we know what it looks like around CrossFit, we
- 1:59:50are going to be hesitant. The thing that matters most to
- 1:59:53me is the nugget of CrossFit. We're changing lives.
- 1:59:57We're fixing all that and, and, and the fruits that come out of
- 2:00:01CrossFit, if they are in competition with CrossFit, this
- 2:00:07is detrimental to all of that. The longer the bleed goes on of
- 2:00:13the affiliates that is on CrossFit, but it doesn't help
- 2:00:17when others might be leaving to be a WFP affiliate.
- 2:00:22If WFP takes over, those affiliates starts doing all
- 2:00:26that, that's a drain off of CrossFit.
- 2:00:27And at the end of the day, like if everybody left and what
- 2:00:30became a WWFP affiliate tomorrow, at the end of the day,
- 2:00:34WFP doesn't hold anything. They do CrossFit, but they don't
- 2:00:37have that centralized methodology and spirit and
- 2:00:41mission that CrossFit has. They don't have the religion.
- 2:00:46They don't have the religion and faith of all of that.
- 2:00:49And so we need the mothership to survive.
- 2:00:52And while I don't work for CrossFit, nor am I fucking paid
- 2:00:55by CrossFit or anyone I know paid by CrossFit, we care about
- 2:01:02that. And we equally throw out shots
- 2:01:05at CrossFit. It's not like we have just been
- 2:01:06like totally hype on HQ this whole time.
- 2:01:09Like we care about that mission. We care about the centralized
- 2:01:12part of it, of what that mission is.
- 2:01:14And if, if WFP is gunning for that, this will bleed out the
- 2:01:18entire system to death. It will crash because CrossFit
- 2:01:21won't quit. WFP won't quit.
- 2:01:23And guess what? It's just going to demolish the
- 2:01:25entire thing. So the longer this goes on, the
- 2:01:28worse it's going to get. No, I, I, yes, you, you said
- 2:01:33that perfectly. Like, first of all, I want to
- 2:01:35address I didn't post things because I was traveling for
- 2:01:40work. That's why I was not on the show
- 2:01:42Wednesday. I got back on Friday.
- 2:01:44I didn't feel well, like exhausted from doing other stuff
- 2:01:49not related to the barbell spin. I just didn't have time.
- 2:01:53Like I do it like I share what I can.
- 2:01:57It wasn't that I was trying to avoid the world fitness project.
- 2:02:01I didn't do anything for French throw down either.
- 2:02:05Like, yeah. So Like Silence was not trying
- 2:02:08to boycott anything. We didn't talk about the French
- 2:02:11throw down on on the show. We're not talking about TFX that
- 2:02:14starts tomorrow like we. Not only did we not talk about
- 2:02:19it, the people who are throwing shade at us for not covering
- 2:02:24either one well. He won hosted French Throwdown.
- 2:02:30In the the app is the the least participated he won we've ever
- 2:02:34run. So it's like, throw shade at us.
- 2:02:37You don't care. You didn't care to play.
- 2:02:41Yeah, Yeah. So we didn't.
- 2:02:45Just not cover world fitness prob we didn't cover.
- 2:02:47Anything. So, yeah, yeah.
- 2:02:54To John. 'S point.
- 2:02:57They also. Talked about it on Training
- 2:02:58Think tank. Let me pull it up here.
- 2:03:02I think when you are paid you say things differently when
- 2:03:06asked versus behind the scenes. And and this kind of slipped
- 2:03:10out. They asked.
- 2:03:13Laurie Winkelman asks. How did the lighting affect
- 2:03:15things? For the athletes, I heard a
- 2:03:16decent amount. Of complaints on there were
- 2:03:19three GHDS they said going down light straight in the eye,
- 2:03:23sitting up light straight in the eye climbs yeah at rope climbs,
- 2:03:26which they said was a little bit more sketchy and nobody
- 2:03:29complained about it in person on the jerk, but I heard people
- 2:03:33commenting on it that it was so the the rule for the jerk was at
- 2:03:37the. Whoops when I posted a video.
- 2:03:42Which was me watching the. Live stream.
- 2:03:46And I couldn't see anything because it was too dark and I
- 2:03:51saw videos of others post like from the the.
- 2:03:54Venue, right, It didn't. Look as dark on the phone
- 2:03:58coverage or whatever. But if I'm watching the screen,
- 2:04:00I want to be able to see the athletes and I couldn't see who
- 2:04:04was in what lane. It was like you back out of the
- 2:04:09spotlight. You couldn't see it.
- 2:04:10Like the shadows were bad. But then everybody, everybody on
- 2:04:16the on the post, if you go look at some of the athletes.
- 2:04:17Like Oh no, this the lighting was.
- 2:04:19Great, that's what I want. Yet back in the back, when
- 2:04:22they're talking to their coaches and others amongst themselves,
- 2:04:26they're complaining about the lights in their eyes.
- 2:04:31The rope climbs. Are sketched 'cause you look.
- 2:04:33Up and there's a spotlight coming straight.
- 2:04:35Down from that you can't. See exactly where you're
- 2:04:37grabbing or where you're going to hit.
- 2:04:39First of all, everybody's complaining about safety.
- 2:04:41That's a safety issue. But to John's point, you're we
- 2:04:46heard zero complaints about it. Why?
- 2:04:48Because 40 of the the 100 athletes were paid and everybody
- 2:04:52wants us to succeed. That was there.
- 2:04:56I don't want it to fail, but you have to be honest with yourself
- 2:04:58that. The lighting was not good on the
- 2:05:00live. Stream it just wasn't it wasn't
- 2:05:04and like you have to make it better and.
- 2:05:07Like the the different color of. Christmas tree lights, whatever.
- 2:05:10Like fine, but like you go look at any, I dare you to go back
- 2:05:14and look at a CrossFit Games venue, right?
- 2:05:19And seeing the crowd, there's something to see in the crowd
- 2:05:23cheering in front of you, right? Like Noah said, Like, oh, you.
- 2:05:29Just didn't, you could hear. Them, but you couldn't see them.
- 2:05:32How many times does a Games athlete go across the finish
- 2:05:34line and there's people right there in front giving them high
- 2:05:37fives, cheering in front of them.
- 2:05:39They hugged their spouse or whatever, and it's a huge,
- 2:05:43awesome moment. You got zero of that.
- 2:05:45And I complained about Rogue. I thought it was too dark.
- 2:05:50I felt like you couldn't tell that what the atmosphere was and
- 2:05:52everybody said the. Atmosphere is great there.
- 2:05:57We we couldn't tell on the live stream I.
- 2:05:59Complained about rogue from that I don't like that darkness and I
- 2:06:02think. Framework events did both.
- 2:06:06It's their signature. Huh?
- 2:06:07Turn off. It's a.
- 2:06:09Let's draw. Go ahead.
- 2:06:10Go. Ahead spin.
- 2:06:10Sorry I you have. To like I'm watching this as.
- 2:06:17A fan this weekend. I didn't I didn't cover it.
- 2:06:19I'm not doing anything other than just watching the live
- 2:06:21stream when I had time and I, you know, I, you when, when we
- 2:06:29call. Something out it's.
- 2:06:30Not because we're hating, it's because we're this is what we're
- 2:06:32seeing. We're not the only ones.
- 2:06:34And so you have to, you can't confuse A criticism with hate.
- 2:06:43No. And that's the thing that people
- 2:06:45don't like that we do is we will openly.
- 2:06:47Criticize just like we've openly criticized CrossFit for years,
- 2:06:51but it's like we it's because we wanted to be better.
- 2:06:52It's only because we are trying to hate it.
- 2:06:55John. Sorry, John.
- 2:06:57Let's let's draw lines then, because you guys say that.
- 2:07:00The you guys, you guys. Like like.
- 2:07:01I just I want I. Want a definitive stance, not
- 2:07:04even just for people, but for me, because I don't know where
- 2:07:08we are. I know, I know.
- 2:07:10I was confused. I No, no.
- 2:07:12Here, here, me out, here, me out.
- 2:07:14Ben, you just said it's not. That I don't.
- 2:07:15Want it to succeed if they're definitively against CrossFit,
- 2:07:19do you not not want them to succeed?
- 2:07:21Because I I'm with you. If it's if it's like they don't
- 2:07:24want they want to take over CrossFit if the open.
- 2:07:27I'm a full on believer if the open is no more, which would
- 2:07:31happen if WFP was the leading. Like that's what that's the
- 2:07:34leading thing in fitness, right? Even if say they did it would
- 2:07:38like that's the big thing for fitness.
- 2:07:40If the open goes away, it will be the death of CrossFit.
- 2:07:43I fully believe that because then there is no community.
- 2:07:47There is none. And I know some people disagree
- 2:07:49with that and say the affiliates will always survive.
- 2:07:51They I I think it would be the death of CrossFit as we know it,
- 2:07:56especially as a sport for sure. But I think it would bleed even
- 2:08:00deeper. So if you think, if you think
- 2:08:03for whatever reasons and we can talk more in depth on it after
- 2:08:07the show, like that's that's the goal, that's what they want.
- 2:08:11There is no, there's not going to be a happy party after this.
- 2:08:16Like it's not there's no chance we can't live in harmony or like
- 2:08:21two different things in the athletes and it's going to be
- 2:08:24good for the athletes in the future that coincide with the
- 2:08:28CrossFit games. If you don't think that can
- 2:08:30happen, why? And then let's let's have a
- 2:08:35stance on This is why we're not going to cover them because they
- 2:08:38they. Want the death of?
- 2:08:40CrossFit. And if they don't, then tell me
- 2:08:43what we're doing. Like what?
- 2:08:45I think they are, I think. I think the lie.
- 2:08:47I think saying they don't want to they could want.
- 2:08:50To coexist with CrossFit is not true.
- 2:08:54And you think the athletes are blind to this?
- 2:08:56They're lying to the. Athletes.
- 2:08:59I I think that they I don't think it's a lie, they just
- 2:09:02haven't stated it. But the athletes are.
- 2:09:04Blind to it. Some of them probably, I think.
- 2:09:08A lot of them. I don't think it's a.
- 2:09:09Bad thing for the athletes. To be blind to it if you're.
- 2:09:12Somebody's giving me $30,000. I'm taking it and thinking
- 2:09:15they're great too, but they're blind to the fact that what
- 2:09:18they're trying to do big picture, and I think it just
- 2:09:21needs to be made clear that it's not criticism.
- 2:09:26These people want to kill CrossFit for their own gain.
- 2:09:30Let we need to look at it like this is what it is and just make
- 2:09:34it clear. And if the and the athletes, the
- 2:09:37athletes need to know that because I think if they knew
- 2:09:42that they wouldn't be singing the graces of of WFPI don't do.
- 2:09:47I don't think Colton's going to randomly now that he's on or it
- 2:09:50might end. I don't think he's going to sing
- 2:09:52the graces of WFPI think he's going to take their money and
- 2:09:56make fun of them. Watch this clip Real Quick is a
- 2:09:59competitor to WFP. Or do.
- 2:10:02Music is terrible 2. Separate things or is it?
- 2:10:05Two things that that can. Absolutely.
- 2:10:06Coexist, but there's no competitiveness.
- 2:10:08Right, well, how do you feel in regards to that?
- 2:10:11I'm just staying in my own lane. And.
- 2:10:14Delivering on what our vision is, yeah.
- 2:10:16And I think the whole team would do that.
- 2:10:18Like we have too much going on right now to worry about what
- 2:10:22other people are doing. They're saying in the media or
- 2:10:24other businesses, we'll focus on delivering an incredible product
- 2:10:29to our community. That is not the answer.
- 2:10:36That was being said three months ago.
- 2:10:40And we've said the. Whole time 3.
- 2:10:43Months ago is no. And we want both.
- 2:10:44We want. The athletes to be able to do
- 2:10:45both. We just want more opportunities
- 2:10:47for them. Give them up now, have more
- 2:10:49money now. It's I'm only focused on myself.
- 2:10:51I want to not worry about what other people are doing.
- 2:10:55I think Will should. Talk to the rest of people on
- 2:10:57his. Team.
- 2:11:00Look, we have seen it the last. Month athletes have withdrawn
- 2:11:05from competitions. Athletes have picked and choose
- 2:11:10which way they want to go. It it directly competed against
- 2:11:16the. French throw down and you're not
- 2:11:18going to tell me. That you didn't know the
- 2:11:19CrossFit schedule so you just had to pick a date.
- 2:11:23I'm almost positive they said that that they had to make a
- 2:11:26change. To the schedule because.
- 2:11:27It was going to be May 17th in Oklahoma City and they moved it
- 2:11:31up a week right at the last four years, May 17th has had a semi
- 2:11:37final. Don't lie that you're doing
- 2:11:41that. If if you if you don't want to
- 2:11:45compete with it, you put it in the.
- 2:11:46Offseason you put. It in between August and
- 2:11:49January, right? That's the more opportunities.
- 2:11:53You don't put it staggering and on top of the CrossFit game
- 2:11:58season if you don't have a motive to take it over, right?
- 2:12:02And then you have people like Pat Velner who comes in there
- 2:12:05underprepared. You have Laura Horvath who
- 2:12:08throws A temper tantrum on her last lunge.
- 2:12:11You have athletes who don't appear to be as trying as hard
- 2:12:14as they could because in Kotler's terms, it's a season.
- 2:12:18They're not fighting for that one spot to make it to the
- 2:12:20Games, to make their season. It's not the playoffs, so they
- 2:12:25back off if they don't feel like pushing as hard as they can and
- 2:12:29you have people that have competed multiple weeks in a
- 2:12:31row. And they don't come in fresh.
- 2:12:34You see subpar from what you're used to, and then world in this
- 2:12:39project is going to add another event next year.
- 2:12:44How does it make sense? Like athletes are already trying
- 2:12:46to figure it out. Gazan skipped.
- 2:12:48Semifinals because she couldn't do multiple weeks in a row.
- 2:12:52She didn't do mayhem because she had to.
- 2:12:54She wanted to focus on this and they had a plan to.
- 2:12:56Try to do. Both, but I asked on Clydesdale,
- 2:13:00I said how much is too much and. And Kotler couldn't.
- 2:13:04Couldn't answer that. They're trying to figure that
- 2:13:05out right now and you're going to add another another
- 2:13:08competition. The only thing you can do is
- 2:13:10then split the. You have to make a decision.
- 2:13:13You can't do both well and all these athletes have had multiple
- 2:13:19opportunities to. Compete.
- 2:13:20You could compete. At Wadapalooza in person, you
- 2:13:23could compete in semifinals, the Games, Rogue, if you're good
- 2:13:26enough, which is all this is really matters about.
- 2:13:29You have Dubai Down Under championship.
- 2:13:33There's all kinds of in person competitions that are large
- 2:13:36enough and athletes skip them over and over and over again
- 2:13:41because they couldn't compete too much.
- 2:13:44And now you have a new league in there and you're saying.
- 2:13:48Yeah, we're. Not we're not trying to compete.
- 2:13:50We're going to put a competition right in the middle of your
- 2:13:52schedule a month after in the same month as the games, and
- 2:13:57we're going to add 1 next year. Tell me you're not competing.
- 2:14:03Tell me you're not trying to blow it up.
- 2:14:05And we're going to come down with a watered down product.
- 2:14:07If half the athletes decide to go WFP route for $30,000 a year,
- 2:14:13great. But if they come out and say it,
- 2:14:15what then? Well, at least we know.
- 2:14:18What we're dealing with right now, we, we, we have to read.
- 2:14:21But I think you've kind of convinced.
- 2:14:23Yourself. That's what we're dealing with.
- 2:14:24So like, we are, we are. They just won't say it.
- 2:14:26I I'm saying, well, let's just talk about it like that's what
- 2:14:29it is. Well, it's OK, so they.
- 2:14:31Come out and they say, they say I need somebody this ask Will.
- 2:14:35Directly, do you want to take over the?
- 2:14:37CrossFit Spear and ultimately means the death of the CrossFit
- 2:14:41Games. I like just that question
- 2:14:44straightforward and not word salad answer like yes or no, you
- 2:14:50know what I mean? And then just you answer the
- 2:14:52questions. What would that gain then?
- 2:14:56Well, that's what I'm asking, Spin.
- 2:14:57Like you, you're. Clearly convinced of this and
- 2:15:00I'm not. Saying you're wrong.
- 2:15:01I'm not saying you're wrong, I just wish we could not be
- 2:15:05selfish either things, you know what I mean?
- 2:15:08Like I wish it could just be another competition.
- 2:15:10It was well ran, probably not sustainable, but the competition
- 2:15:15was good. I wanted to coexist.
- 2:15:17I wanted to be successful for the athletes, but it's WF PS
- 2:15:22fault if they're like they can't accept what role they could
- 2:15:26have. They could have you.
- 2:15:27You understand what I'm saying like, and if they're not going
- 2:15:31to, I want it to be abundantly clear.
- 2:15:34And if that's what we're operating off of that this is
- 2:15:36what they're going to do, then let's not talk about the Will's
- 2:15:42word salad. Let's not talk about like the
- 2:15:44inconsistencies we're there. They're trying to take over
- 2:15:48CrossFit. They don't want to.
- 2:15:51Say it, but they are. They don't say it's the
- 2:15:53athletes. Every single time we have an
- 2:15:56athlete on here, we should say, do you know you're being lied
- 2:15:59to? That should be the first
- 2:16:02question. And then see how they.
- 2:16:04Answer it and be. Like I know you're getting paid
- 2:16:07$30,000. You don't have to answer the
- 2:16:09question, but you are blind to what they want to do.
- 2:16:12They don't want CrossFit to be a thing anymore.
- 2:16:15Like, that's how we should operate.
- 2:16:17We shouldn't be like, well, maybe you know what I mean?
- 2:16:20Like, it's already done. And we're convinced, is what I'm
- 2:16:23saying. Like, let's make it clear all
- 2:16:25the way around. Dallon's answer to that question
- 2:16:30is very telling. Like I had never heard somebody
- 2:16:33speak like that about the two because I think if every other
- 2:16:38communication, it's been world. Fitness projects where it's at.
- 2:16:41That's where I want to put my focus on.
- 2:16:45And to Dallin's statement it it to me.
- 2:16:47It sounds like, hey, I still want to win the CrossFit.
- 2:16:49Games I don't mind doing this because there's some money on
- 2:16:53the line and I'll compete and I'm fitness privileged.
- 2:16:56That's that's Tyler's words, not mine or his, but I don't think
- 2:17:01it's sustainable. And if you listen to.
- 2:17:04Talking to Elite Fitness Tommy Marquez.
- 2:17:05Is like, oh, what if athletes go to the TFX this weekend to get
- 2:17:10hurt and then they end up getting into the through the
- 2:17:12semifinals? They didn't have to compete.
- 2:17:14You can say the same thing about going to World Fitness Project
- 2:17:18instead of going. To the games like somebody.
- 2:17:19Could have gotten hurt. Like Travis Mayer's hurt,
- 2:17:23Bethany Bethany Flores is hurt. Emily Rolfe sounds like she's
- 2:17:27hurt. Like what if they don't go to
- 2:17:29the CrossFit Games this year? Do you blame the athletes for?
- 2:17:35Trying to get theirs, no. I don't blame the athletes at
- 2:17:38all, but I don't think they should be.
- 2:17:42Lied to. I think World Fitness Project is
- 2:17:45lying to them. I think Dallon is blind to
- 2:17:49what's really happening and I think he would admit that he's
- 2:17:51blind to what's really happening.
- 2:17:53I think he hopes it's the Diamond League.
- 2:17:54He wants that to be the case. That's why he answered it that
- 2:17:57way, because to him that's what it feels like.
- 2:18:01Like there's way for the world athletes to make money, but it's
- 2:18:04not and it's a way from. Everything else they don't.
- 2:18:09See. They're not a part of, you know
- 2:18:11what I mean? So I think most of the athletes
- 2:18:12are are blind to this and I don't think it's their fault at
- 2:18:16all. Now, let me let me ask you, let
- 2:18:19me ask you this question. Hold on, hold on, hold on right
- 2:18:22here. Adidas is kind of a dope
- 2:18:23sponsor. If you watch Hiller's video,
- 2:18:27it's pretty. It sounds like they.
- 2:18:30Paid $0.00. Same with Noble.
- 2:18:34That's the rumor going on is that those guys paid $0.00.
- 2:18:41That's not a sponsor deal. Let.
- 2:18:48Me. Ask you what were you going to
- 2:18:49say? John, let me ask you this
- 2:18:50question if. If they were like, our goal is
- 2:18:55to be the biggest. Thing in CrossFit.
- 2:18:57The CrossFit Games can still be the CrossFit Games, but we're
- 2:19:00going to operate and we want it. We want to eventually be the
- 2:19:03biggest thing. And like they were up front
- 2:19:05about saying that and they're not trying to replace the
- 2:19:07CrossFit Games. They're still going to be the
- 2:19:09open. They're still going to be like,
- 2:19:10however you get to the CrossFit Games, but like how Rogue Rogue
- 2:19:14is, you know, the winner of Rogue wins basically the same
- 2:19:16amount as the CrossFit Games. They're close enough, right?
- 2:19:19If Rogue was $500,000, it would be the most, but I still think
- 2:19:23the CrossFit Games would be the CrossFit Games.
- 2:19:25Rogue has never tried to step on CrossFit Games toes ever, right?
- 2:19:29They have great relationship, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 2:19:32Do you think it's possible for the World Fitness project to
- 2:19:35want to do that, for that to be their goal and it can coexist.
- 2:19:40But like the strongman thing, like it's just it, it does get
- 2:19:43bigger than I don't think it's sustainable either.
- 2:19:45I'm just saying, I'm just saying like on a cloud 9 future trip,
- 2:19:51do you think they could be what they want to be and then the
- 2:19:55CrossFit Games still be the CrossFit Games, the Open still
- 2:19:58be the open. You can't have you can't have 4
- 2:20:01plus competitions a year. And in that that interview that
- 2:20:06you saw there with Will, he's talking about even having on
- 2:20:10more or adding in person challenger qualifiers, not the
- 2:20:16online piece of things like adding.
- 2:20:18More and more and more. Like not going to work.
- 2:20:23Like you cannot do that. And I get Kotler on here right
- 2:20:29now, and he'd say I don't know how.
- 2:20:31Many times that Alex can. Compete.
- 2:20:32Alex is 23. She could probably compete as
- 2:20:34much as anybody else, but concerned about her injuries,
- 2:20:39concerned about overuse, concerned about.
- 2:20:40Burnout, all of that stuff. And as it is now, even if
- 2:20:46they're just four and they say we want to coexist, there's.
- 2:20:49Athletes making decisions. French throw down look at the
- 2:20:51field that just competed not even close to what semifinals
- 2:20:57was last year Why? Because all the European
- 2:20:59athletes that are still competing were in Indianapolis,
- 2:21:04right? So you, you, you're watering
- 2:21:07down the field in both cases. Because if it would have been.
- 2:21:13Nice. Maybe Brontoslaw?
- 2:21:14Would have competed in WFP. OK, that that probably adds to
- 2:21:17the challenger field or or the the pro field if he made it in
- 2:21:20the qualifier. Like those athletes could all be
- 2:21:24in one spot, but they're not going to be because there's too
- 2:21:27many competitions that are going to overlap.
- 2:21:29It's just not going to work. Clip this athletes be ready.
- 2:21:35Next year, the. WFP will have more.
- 2:21:38Events. And they will schedule.
- 2:21:40It during the CrossFit season with no regard.
- 2:21:44I'm not telling you that this might happen.
- 2:21:47This is 100% going to happen like on Syndicate on.
- 2:21:54An affiliate semi finals. Good chances any if you're going
- 2:22:00to have one, if you're going to have one.
- 2:22:01Per quarter. It's going to line up pretty
- 2:22:04darn close. And you're you're telling me?
- 2:22:07That people can't adjust. Their training and and make it.
- 2:22:12Only a few can. So.
- 2:22:16John, you wanted a definitive. Statement of where I stand I'm.
- 2:22:20Not going to turn this into a red team versus a blue team
- 2:22:22thing. The thing I care about is is
- 2:22:25maybe the red team, if we're going to be 1, whatever color
- 2:22:29you want, green. Orange.
- 2:22:32Let's let's. Let's explicitly use red and
- 2:22:34blue, and I want to be red, OK? The well scenario.
- 2:22:40Three, which is new commenter, welcome to.
- 2:22:42The show scenario three, I doubt it will happen Tyler dot dot dot
- 2:22:45they're going to fold under the financial pressure.
- 2:22:49I will say this very, very clearly, billions of dollars at
- 2:22:56their. Disposal.
- 2:22:58Billions. I won't play the.
- 2:23:03Red team versus. Blue team game, I think some.
- 2:23:06Of the things they're trying to do, like some of their
- 2:23:08initiatives are good. You want to pay the athletes,
- 2:23:10you want to highlight people you want to get you want them to
- 2:23:12give more team like opportunities for sponsorship or
- 2:23:15highlight them that that's cool. It's all great.
- 2:23:17Even with the the affiliate thing or the the world fitness,
- 2:23:21what's it called? Projects.
- 2:23:23Yeah, projects cool. It's like that's.
- 2:23:27Just CrossFit, that's what. It's doing.
- 2:23:29You knew what? It was called.
- 2:23:30Man, don't be 7. That's.
- 2:23:34A bit. Come on.
- 2:23:35No, I really. I really didn't know.
- 2:23:37No, go ahead. Go ahead.
- 2:23:38Look, look, look, look. You tried to.
- 2:23:40Take seven. You weren't sucking.
- 2:23:41Up like a madman right now. Dude, come on, it is trying to.
- 2:23:47It is the trying to destroy of. What we're all.
- 2:23:50After and you, I think they think this is a good idea and,
- 2:23:54and they are paying the athletes to believe that what they're
- 2:23:58doing is the right thing. And I think if athletes step
- 2:24:01away and they look at the full, the full scope, John, you were
- 2:24:04saying like the athletes, they need to ask the questions or
- 2:24:06somebody in the comments was saying like the athletes should
- 2:24:08be smart enough to answer the questions they can answer or ask
- 2:24:10questions all day. But if you're told a lie, you
- 2:24:13don't know any fucking better. And I was like, I don't.
- 2:24:16I don't blame the athletes at all.
- 2:24:18I think a few. Of them might.
- 2:24:20Know, but I think the vast majority of them are just trying
- 2:24:23to do what's good for them. And it's like, I'm not asking
- 2:24:27you to take money out of your pocket to save some higher idea.
- 2:24:30That's that's my job. But like, it's a lot more
- 2:24:35complicated than it seems. And the.
- 2:24:37Methodology and all that stuff that our ecosystem suffers the
- 2:24:42longer this goes on. Now there is a possibility in
- 2:24:47which WFP could buy CrossFit. That's very real, very real.
- 2:24:53And then what does that look like?
- 2:24:55What happens if they buy CrossFit?
- 2:24:57That that's what I just asked. I.
- 2:24:59Know I'm asking you guys. I wouldn't ask you the question.
- 2:25:02If I knew the answer, Tyler. Then.
- 2:25:06What's the? Solution I I mean I might I I I
- 2:25:13I. Offered this conversation.
- 2:25:14To somebody. And I was like, hey, what if I
- 2:25:17kind of have to shut up if they do buy a CrossFit and they
- 2:25:20uphold the methodology and they said I don't think they will
- 2:25:24because ultimately this is all been about money so far.
- 2:25:29Somebody said this is a business model.
- 2:25:30It is a business model. And what I.
- 2:25:33Fear is that they do, that they do take over.
- 2:25:38I mean, yeah, you can reject the offer until they come in with
- 2:25:42some of them billions, and then you can't reject the offer
- 2:25:45anymore. They're being sold by Berkshire.
- 2:25:48Yeah. It's not Crossfit's decision.
- 2:25:49It's it's Berkshire. No, like I'm still going to
- 2:25:53cover it, but I'm not. I don't.
- 2:25:56You, you heard? Parents say it.
- 2:25:59It seemed like it was more of a just somewhat somewhat of an
- 2:26:03exhibition. Dallon's talking about it as a a
- 2:26:06a money league. It's not the playoffs like the
- 2:26:11CrossFit game. Season like.
- 2:26:15We want to crown the fittest on earth.
- 2:26:17We want to see who can take the methodology the furthest to
- 2:26:20become the fittest on Earth. That's what excites me, right?
- 2:26:25Watching people do thrusters for.
- 2:26:28Points is not. As exciting, it's not going to
- 2:26:32be right like over like multiple competitions and all this.
- 2:26:37Stuff and you're not going. To be trying as hard if there is
- 2:26:40nothing else out there and that was what it was, OK, fine.
- 2:26:44But you can't come in and try to bully and push off.
- 2:26:49I don't want to say bully, but like come in and.
- 2:26:51And. Use different language to say
- 2:26:54what you're trying to do and it's not actually upfront, you
- 2:27:02know we. Started covering and we started
- 2:27:04doing CrossFit. We didn't come in and do the
- 2:27:05world fitness project. And time and time again, new
- 2:27:10leagues have been formed. Live golf, IndyCar racing, a lot
- 2:27:14of these things have come in with a competing league and it's
- 2:27:17blown up. And both have suffered from it.
- 2:27:21And CrossFit is not big. Enough if you care about this
- 2:27:26if. You care about watching the
- 2:27:27sport. It's not big enough to handle
- 2:27:32that blow up. It's not and like.
- 2:27:36But again, what's? What is the solution then?
- 2:27:42Hate, hate on it. That's not a solution, says.
- 2:27:45I know he's convinced that. He's convinced that.
- 2:27:47CrossFit will always. Be.
- 2:27:49Around and I, I. Think differently.
- 2:27:51I don't, I don't. I don't disagree with you.
- 2:27:53The methodology will live on Forever 100.
- 2:27:56Percent. And he's saying, like the
- 2:27:57affiliates won't, the wind in our sails changes greatly.
- 2:28:02With. The more you turn into F45 with
- 2:28:05barbells. I agree and it's like.
- 2:28:09That that becomes died down eventually.
- 2:28:12And that's what I'm concerned of.
- 2:28:13Go find a podcast about F45. Go find a podcast.
- 2:28:18About Orangetheory, right? It's just a gym.
- 2:28:23That's all it is. There's a difference.
- 2:28:24There's a reason who want to feel.
- 2:28:26Good about themselves that aren't actually doing anything
- 2:28:29right. Like there is a.
- 2:28:30Difference, and I'm not saying the sport is the the.
- 2:28:34The competition side, the game side is what has to be there,
- 2:28:37but it it does draw an entire world together for an open, a
- 2:28:43community, things that are bigger than that.
- 2:28:46And yeah, great. There's a there's CrossFit as a
- 2:28:49gym down the road and you can go across the country and find a
- 2:28:52CrossFit gym. It is different if you don't
- 2:28:55have that and if that's what gets torn down.
- 2:29:01So we could have the top 20 athletes make a.
- 2:29:04Career out of. It I don't think it's not worth
- 2:29:07it. It's not worth it, but OK.
- 2:29:09The the only. Thing that can stop it then is
- 2:29:13the athletes not doing it right. Like what else?
- 2:29:17And they're, and they're going to be forced to make that
- 2:29:19decision. Next year and we'll see.
- 2:29:22What happens and if it's some athletes really think this is
- 2:29:25the future and then some athletes have that feeling of
- 2:29:29like I can't do both I'd. Still rather.
- 2:29:31Be crowned fittest on earth, like Dallon said.
- 2:29:36And let's say Dallon goes to CrossFit Games route and let's
- 2:29:39say Medeiros goes world fitness project, right?
- 2:29:45Let's say Hatfield goes. World Fitness and Colton Goes
- 2:29:49Games. That would suck to not watch
- 2:29:52them compete in the same arena. So what?
- 2:29:57What do we do? We.
- 2:29:59We. I think and what I will continue
- 2:30:01to do. Is I'll cover it, but don't look
- 2:30:04to me to be like the most excited person.
- 2:30:07Don't expect to have all these prediction shows or a a World
- 2:30:12Fitness Project mountain. Like we would still.
- 2:30:14Watch it. We'll still talk about it like
- 2:30:16we are now. We're not going to ignore it and
- 2:30:19I don't think again this past weekend was not ignoring it like
- 2:30:22there are life events that happen.
- 2:30:24Tyler was there, I was there, but like and we're going to use
- 2:30:29with a baby on the way it was. Not an easy fucking.
- 2:30:31Thing to do? We're going to talk about world
- 2:30:33fitness. Project, we're going to think
- 2:30:34about it in terms of. How it impacts the CrossFit.
- 2:30:37Games, but it's all all it's going to be is a toggle on down
- 2:30:41like it's one one of the. Topics but don't.
- 2:30:43Yeah, but don't. Expect us to be like, screw the
- 2:30:46CrossFit Games, we're going to cover this.
- 2:30:47This is the most. Important thing because I think
- 2:30:49it is dangerous to CrossFit and the CrossFit Games.
- 2:30:53The athletes and the community. I wish, I wish the athletes
- 2:30:58would all watch. This.
- 2:31:01Episode then not even the whole episode but like just.
- 2:31:03This part. So.
- 2:31:05They can. 'Cause I, I had five athletes
- 2:31:08text me and say, why can't you guys get on board with the World
- 2:31:12Fitness Project? And I know Tyler had countless
- 2:31:14people ask him the same thing. And I want it to be made so
- 2:31:20clear that this is, these are the lines in the sand.
- 2:31:26And we are team CrossFit, CrossFit survival and they are
- 2:31:30not. And that is why we do what we
- 2:31:32do. It is not because we're hating.
- 2:31:36They have made this line and we're we're choosing to be on
- 2:31:41this side of it. I've said it if they put it.
- 2:31:43In the offseason. Not in the middle of the game.
- 2:31:47Season, I think it could be great.
- 2:31:49We are a. 100%. On board dude.
- 2:31:51Late August to. Late August to.
- 2:31:53Mid January like that's your. That's your season, everything
- 2:31:58could coexist and everything would be great.
- 2:31:59And I want, I want people to understand I am not like pro
- 2:32:05WFPI, just want it to work for everybody so badly 'cause I know
- 2:32:10the athletes want it to work and I care about the athletes,
- 2:32:12believe it or not. I know I speak pretty bad about
- 2:32:14them a lot, but I want it to succeed.
- 2:32:17I want the sport to grow and I think it could help everything
- 2:32:20grow, but it cannot compete with the CrossFit Games and that's on
- 2:32:26them. That's on them.
- 2:32:31So I I'm. Team hater if we want to go.
- 2:32:32That route is what I'm. Saying we'll go bored.
- 2:32:38It's Ben's been the captain for a while.
- 2:32:40Do you you? Understand where I'm at though,
- 2:32:41like I. Don't understand you were you
- 2:32:44were asking about solutions? What do we?
- 2:32:47Do just CrossFit take them down? I need a box will more.
- 2:32:51Add we need pay-per-view boxing match.
- 2:32:54I think there's going. To be so many put people pull
- 2:32:56this podcast and they'll be like, they haven't said that.
- 2:32:59They are against CrossFit and it's like, no, they haven't said
- 2:33:02it to you. They have said it to some
- 2:33:06people. There's we'll just.
- 2:33:10Set it in that. We'll set it in that interview.
- 2:33:13Well, I think. Spin you're reading.
- 2:33:15Into it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 2:33:17The messaging. Has changed no and I I need.
- 2:33:19Clear questions asked him and so you.
- 2:33:21Can only answer yes or no. And if he can't do it, you've
- 2:33:26said yes or no. Yeah.
- 2:33:29Yes, and I think the. The the WWE and the WCW did come
- 2:33:35together. We aren't those things.
- 2:33:38They were much larger at the time.
- 2:33:40We can't, we can't withstand that sort of blast right now.
- 2:33:44And I, I get it, dude. Like I'm saying like, oh,
- 2:33:46CrossFit, like they should be able to withstand.
- 2:33:49They should be able to stand on their own.
- 2:33:50They fucking can't right now. And that's why it's like, OK,
- 2:33:53what do we do, John? You were asking?
- 2:33:56CrossFit can't do anything right now.
- 2:33:58They can't. They don't have the money.
- 2:33:59Berkshire doesn't want to fight. They have.
- 2:34:02They try to. They have to try to sell.
- 2:34:03WFP might be a potential buyer. So they can't go against the WFP
- 2:34:07right now. They can't do anything about
- 2:34:09this. There is one way through this,
- 2:34:13and it's Rich Froning. OK, I like it.
- 2:34:17Go ahead. I'll leave Frazier. 9:00 and
- 2:34:199:00 Thank you for covering all the CrossFit cop topics.
- 2:34:22So well. Jump ship, you're right.
- 2:34:28Rich Froning for CEO. I'm I'm all for it.
- 2:34:32You like it What you like that If it?
- 2:34:35Means that we. Succeed.
- 2:34:37Yes, I'm all. For it I.
- 2:34:38I don't care how. We get there.
- 2:34:40I just want CrossFit to survive, I want the Open to stay, I want
- 2:34:45the community to be excited about the Open again, and I want
- 2:34:49the Games to always be the Super Bowl of fitness.
- 2:34:51That is all that is. My whole agenda is that I don't
- 2:34:56go around and say that I care about European athletes and then
- 2:35:01not cover the French throwdown. That's not what I do spend
- 2:35:04because somebody else has paid me.
- 2:35:06I say exactly what I want to say and I follow through on
- 2:35:10everything. That's one thing.
- 2:35:11I think, Tyler, you might have said this.
- 2:35:13Whatever. Whatever I say to your face,
- 2:35:16whatever I say to your face, that's what I'm saying behind
- 2:35:19your back. It's the.
- 2:35:20Exact same. Thing I have I have no agenda at
- 2:35:24all. I I want people to work
- 2:35:26together, but I think I'm nicer actually in person than most
- 2:35:31people. But I and there's no hidden
- 2:35:35agenda if we're going to, if we're going.
- 2:35:36To go to war. Then we're going to go to war,
- 2:35:38and I'm all for Rich if Rich means that we win the war.
- 2:35:43Yeah. All right, I'm going to leave
- 2:35:45you with this. Will Morad come join our short
- 2:35:47next? Show next week Jon wants.
- 2:35:49To ask you if you add the balls will morad and if you don't then
- 2:35:53that shows us what type of man. You are OK.
- 2:35:57We'll see you next week. Will I apologize to?
- 2:36:01Absolutely nobody.