Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Does Your Wife Feel You Would Do Anything For Her?
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- 0:05Hi, everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:08Psych mom, show today, I want to talk about something that a lot
- 0:12of guys don't really understand and some women don't really even
- 0:16understand it either actually. And it's something that I see a
- 0:20lot in my couples where the woman has a real strong desire
- 0:27to be, you know, this already from previous podcast to put to
- 0:30be fully taken care of emotionally specifically and
- 0:35Also, this goes along with this desire to have a man who will do
- 0:40anything for her at least in fantasy and I will elaborate on
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- 1:22So, back to the topic at hand. So a lot of women have this
- 1:28secret desire to have a guy who does anything that they want,
- 1:31because they grew up on fairy tales.
- 1:33And if you think boy that Stupid, women are so fucking
- 1:36stupid. Well, a hug guys watch porn and
- 1:39think that's stuffs gonna happen.
- 1:40So, who's stupid, right? Everybody, stupid.
- 1:43So that's very egalitarian. Way to realize that both genders
- 1:49usually have a prototypical fantasy that they want to
- 1:53happen. Maybe I'm at the archetypical,
- 1:56it's late now by late. I mean, it's 313 not AMPM but I
- 2:03did have many clients back to back.
- 2:05And as I always do and I'm waiting outside to pick up my
- 2:08child in my car. So anyway, so men and women.
- 2:13Both have a typical we will forget about the prefixes.
- 2:17Their fantasy is based on, you know, how they grew up this,
- 2:23could be along a spectrum of how believable they think it is.
- 2:26And by the way, it's also massively impacted by the
- 2:30marriage which you saw. So just like there are a lot of
- 2:34guys that I see. That really come by their high
- 2:37sex drive and desire to have constant sex within marriage
- 2:41naturally. Because they saw it, they really
- 2:42did see a growing up. They didn't see the parents
- 2:44having sex, but they may have even heard them having sex, and
- 2:47they saw, you know, the parents canoodling all the time.
- 2:51And so, they genuinely do believe that this is something
- 2:55to be expected within marriage. And similarly, some women come
- 2:59by their romantic fantasies, very naturally and observed, the
- 3:02father who was always bringing the woman flowers and who is
- 3:05Always saying that she's a light of his life and Mom, he's so
- 3:08wonderful and beautiful. So then then there's the other
- 3:12hand, you know, on the other side are people that form this
- 3:15fantasy in reaction to a deficit in the home.
- 3:19And it could be even more intense based on this deficit.
- 3:24And the yearning that the child felt from one or both parents
- 3:30for something different. So many women, for example, one
- 3:34a very romantic The marriage when they saw nothing of the
- 3:36sword growing up, but they always felt that their mother
- 3:40was yearning deeply wistfully for some sort of change in this
- 3:43regard and for the father to act different, and many men yearn
- 3:47for physical closeness, when they saw a father, who was
- 3:50always getting rebuffed and pushed away.
- 3:51And the mother was, you know, giving him a look like kind of
- 3:55don't touch me. So the those Sons pick up on
- 3:59their fathers yearning and his rejection, and then they
- 4:02resolved that it should be so different for them.
- 4:05Unfortunately they did not learn very obviously anything that
- 4:09worked you know that the father did to seduce the mother and so
- 4:13therefore they don't really know how to put that in Motion in
- 4:17order to get that sort of reaction from a woman, which
- 4:20obviously amplifies the probability that they will
- 4:23remain in the same situation that their father was in and it
- 4:26really is much the same for women.
- 4:28So if the woman did not see a mother who was getting any sort
- 4:33of her emotional needs met and I was happy with the man that she
- 4:37doesn't really know how to act happy with a man in a way that
- 4:40would most likely lead to an increased likelihood of getting
- 4:44her needs met. So it's very ironic and very sad
- 4:47and this is why couples counseling can be very useful to
- 4:50help people understand the origin of their Dynamics, as
- 4:52well as work on them and changing them moving forward.
- 4:55Such that they no longer have to remain in a constant state of
- 4:58frustration on yearning. Like they may have seen.
- 5:01So, what does a woman really deeply?
- 5:05Yearn for romantically, flowers. Jewelry, whatever the hell you
- 5:09think is really not it. Those are really proxy variables
- 5:14because they mean that the man went out of his way, to make her
- 5:18life better in that moment in a way that she didn't need, you
- 5:25know, but but wanted, you know. So it's not just that he will
- 5:29pull her out of a burning building, you know, because
- 5:32she's going to die or that. He will take her out.
- 5:35Able to be changed because her car is gonna, you know, whatever
- 5:38cars do when you don't change the oil.
- 5:39I mean I really have no idea about that one.
- 5:41Perhaps they explode and or anything that she really needs.
- 5:46But this is just something that you would want any loves her so
- 5:49much that he would do anything to make her happy now, how does
- 5:53this manifest in the direct asks that the man may not really
- 5:57realize our representative of this underlying desire.
- 6:00So the woman may ask the man to come home from work.
- 6:04So this is such a big Big one and or asked him to take a day
- 6:08off of work so that they could spend the day together and or
- 6:12because she feels overwhelmed with the children.
- 6:15So a lot of men won't do this because they feel that it's
- 6:18going to set a precedent. Now, these are usually avoidant
- 6:21attachment men that have a lot of problem with interdependence.
- 6:24They themselves are really independent and they have no
- 6:27idea why their wife would make them jump through hoops in this
- 6:31way. Obviously, the woman is fully
- 6:33capable of taking care of the kids.
- 6:34Let's say, she's a stay-at-home. Mom or she fully understands
- 6:37that they could get a date night sitter and go out and have
- 6:39dinner together. So, why does she want him to
- 6:43potentially? Fuck something up at work by.
- 6:45Not going in for a day. Why did she make this her Hill
- 6:48to die on? She is just really controlling
- 6:51and difficult. That would be with the man would
- 6:53think in reality. It's not that at all, it's that
- 6:55she wants to see that. He prioritizes her overworked
- 6:59one time, you know? And this has probably been a
- 7:02bone of contention as it is in many.
- 7:05Houses and she wants to see that he would do anything for her.
- 7:09And in this case, anything is represented by him going and
- 7:13like to work or taking a day off of work or something like that.
- 7:17When she understands that work is important, it is in fact,
- 7:20because she recognizes that work is important that it's so
- 7:23meaningful and so men who don't want to do this.
- 7:26Not only did they think this is some controlling crazy
- 7:29irrational shit? She knows that I have to make
- 7:31money for this family but they also think this is a precedent
- 7:34if I do. She's going to want me to take
- 7:36off work all the time and never have.
- 7:38I seen this happen. What?
- 7:39A women. They're not stupid.
- 7:41You know, they understand, you need to make money.
- 7:43Keep your job. In fact, when we talk in couples
- 7:46counseling, like let's say the woman says, I wish that he would
- 7:49just take off a day to be with me and go out, you know, go out
- 7:54for lunch and that would be so wonderful if he didn't
- 7:57prioritize work all the time and you just took off a day to be
- 8:00with me and or the children. And so the man will be like if I
- 8:04do That she's gonna want me to do that all the time.
- 8:06If I do that all the time, you know what's going to happen to
- 8:08my job? I'm going to lose my job.
- 8:10So I say to her. Well, listen, how about we don't
- 8:13commit to Once? How about we commit to, he'll do
- 8:15it twice this month, right? You know what they say?
- 8:18No, no, I don't need them. Do it twice.
- 8:21I don't even do it twice this month.
- 8:22Nor oh, I just like, what's it doesn't.
- 8:24Have to be this month either. I mean it could be next month.
- 8:26I mean, you know, could be this year like a be 2022, you know.
- 8:31I just like maybe the late in the year.
- 8:35Lee women walk it back real quick because they don't want to
- 8:39like ruin your life. You know, they don't want to get
- 8:43you fired, they want to show. They want you to want to make
- 8:48them happy by doing anything that they want and then if they
- 8:53get that you would do it, then they'll probably stop asking for
- 8:57it honestly after the one time that you do it.
- 8:59So it's interesting, it's very similar to like when women say
- 9:04if you're like I do Hell, no, my wife never do that, think about
- 9:07it. What if you said, what I really
- 9:10want to do in bed is I want to have, I want to have a
- 9:16threesome, and she's like, I'm ever going to have a threesome
- 9:19because I have a threesome. One time who might have a
- 9:22threesome every single week with a different woman.
- 9:24Every look what you crazy. First of all, how would we even
- 9:26get these women? They go in it like this is
- 9:28something I want. Like, I don't know if the
- 9:31situation arose somehow, I mean there's some way to do this.
- 9:35One time. Cool.
- 9:36You know like that would be a bucket list thing.
- 9:39I mean never would a man say yeah, damn straight.
- 9:42I wanted in fact, twice a week and if you do it once, I'll know
- 9:45that you can do it. And then I will really ask for
- 9:47twice a week and they'll be no Escape forever.
- 9:49No way people aren't like this. They don't get off on other
- 9:53people's discomfort or pain, or sacrifice what women want.
- 9:57Is that men will do anything, they want the fantasy of that.
- 10:01He will do anything for me. He will put me first and then
- 10:04usually want the same Thing in bed, you know.
- 10:06And so if you recognize this and you recognize that this is a
- 10:11fantasy from the person's the part of their brain, that didn't
- 10:14get enough love really as a child.
- 10:17And that's what all of this stuff is about is basic
- 10:19attachment, deficits from, not getting enough in your family of
- 10:24origin. Even if you had a wonderful
- 10:26family of origin, you didn't get everything you wanted, right?
- 10:30No one does your mother had other children to take care of
- 10:33your father? Had to go to work.
- 10:34Your mother had to go to Your father had other children, take
- 10:36care of whatever it's not gender based here, but either way, you
- 10:40didn't get all your needs met. You were never somebody's only
- 10:45only priority. So that is the ultimate fantasy
- 10:49is to be somebody's only priority in a way that you never
- 10:53really were as a kid and you're not an idiot, you're an adult.
- 10:57You have kids probably of your own, you know, that you can't
- 10:59get this done all the time. Nor would you want it?
- 11:03You don't really want your wife. If to be your twenty-four-seven
- 11:06sex slave, because how the hell would you go to work or coach
- 11:09little league? That would be awkward.
- 11:11But you do want it to be something where you can tell
- 11:17yourself and have some evidence that your partner will go out of
- 11:22their way to make you deeply happy and prioritize you, and
- 11:26for women, this frequently comes in this way.
- 11:28I would want to know that you would do anything for me and
- 11:30pick me over anybody. Oh, another one is with the
- 11:33in-laws. This is a big one.
- 11:35So the woman will say, I just want you to take my side one
- 11:38time against your mom and he'll be like, if I'm always taking
- 11:41your side over my mom, my poor mom.
- 11:43Meanwhile, she's been through this that the other thing and
- 11:45all she wants to do is see our kids, but he's not really
- 11:48hearing what she said would usually.
- 11:51Or if not, I'll articulate what she meant is, I want one time
- 11:56when you make it clear to your mother that you agree with me
- 11:59instead of her, this could literally be like your wife
- 12:02says, I like watching real housewives in your mother's like
- 12:04that. Stuff is shit.
- 12:06And instead of you laughing and saying my, I think that stuff is
- 12:09shit to you say, really. I think it could be funny that
- 12:14literally, your mother. Your mother would look at you
- 12:18with annoyance and that would be enough for your wife to feel
- 12:21prioritized, no harm, no foul. If that is a Harmon foul with
- 12:25your mother, then she has self-absorption issues and that
- 12:28and there's bigger fish to fry if you can never agree with your
- 12:31wife over her and you should anyway.
- 12:33Even if you quote k out, of course you And you have to in
- 12:36order to have a happy marriage but the point here is that it is
- 12:41just exactly like the sex thing. So just like you you might say
- 12:45to your wife, I want more blow jobs and then imagine how you
- 12:48feel. If she says, well, if I am
- 12:50blowing you twice a day. Then how could I possibly
- 12:53maintain my job as a preschool teacher?
- 12:55It's like, what are you talking about?
- 12:58What are you even talking about? I'm talking about every other
- 13:00week or possibly, once a month, that would be great going.
- 13:05From zero. You know, and she means the same
- 13:08thing. She doesn't mean you should say
- 13:10my I never want you to come over our house again.
- 13:12What she wants you to say is oh you know I actually do like you
- 13:18know my wife's cookies also in addition to yours and sometimes
- 13:23I like her cake even better than the sponge cake.
- 13:26You used to buy like literally she wants like one time that you
- 13:30say one thing where you overtly put her first.
- 13:34So Whatever domain you you frequently fight about whether
- 13:39it's in laws, whether it is time from work, whether it is money,
- 13:45there's a big one. You can always be nickel and
- 13:47diming and super Frugal. So one time, your wife wants to
- 13:51see that you buy some big expensive thing, not even super
- 13:54expensive, quite honestly would weird her out as I'm saying,
- 13:58look what I say to the women. Okay.
- 13:59So you want them to spend like a thousand dollars on a bag for
- 14:02you. They like what?
- 14:03No what no I don't mean that. That you know I mean like you
- 14:06know a couple hundred bucks and so women never want to just like
- 14:12feed upon immense like weakness or helplessness as like some of
- 14:17the manosphere blogs might have. You think they want to be
- 14:20prioritized in exactly the same way, analogously to how men
- 14:24generally want to be prioritized in the bedroom.
- 14:27It's a fantasy that for one. Glorious moment, you are going
- 14:33to have all of your needs met and there.
- 14:35For you will feel completely prioritized in a way that you
- 14:38really probably never have or have not within many years, you
- 14:43know. And this can be a very healing
- 14:46experience. Somebody's desire for either one
- 14:49of these either, the sexual or non-sexual version does not
- 14:52become selfish in any sort of bad way.
- 14:55It makes them completely normal healthy person that has
- 15:00fantasies about being really loved and cared for in a Elway
- 15:05and being somebody's number, one person.
- 15:07And so, if you can make your wife feel like this, then you're
- 15:13really going to open the floodgates of her love for you,
- 15:16which may manifest sexually. Or, you know, it may just
- 15:19manifest in that she's a hell of a lot happier, which most guys
- 15:22would honestly take in a heartbeat also.
- 15:25And so what I want you to try that.
- 15:28If you're listening to, this is really try to ask your partner.
- 15:32What is something? And since this one's about
- 15:34wives, Have so many about sex just did the blowjob one.
- 15:37Why don't you ask your wife? What if I did it would make you
- 15:42feel truly? Like I put you first if I if you
- 15:45don't feel like I do you feel like I put you first and if
- 15:48she's like oh yeah sure. You definitely do your so great
- 15:51and she says it in the middle of sex with you because that's, you
- 15:54know, she's so thrilled with you all the time, then sure.
- 15:57Don't listen to. This podcast is not relevant to
- 15:59you. But if she's like what do you
- 16:01mean? Put me first?
- 16:02I mean like you mean like this or even like This do you mean
- 16:05this thing you don't do or do you mean to say you don't do
- 16:07well then you are like the majority of men and she does not
- 16:10feel like she is put first. So then you say what something I
- 16:14could do to show to you. That I really put you first
- 16:16because I really want to show you and then literally, if she
- 16:19says something, do it, like that's the best advice I could
- 16:21give you. If she's like, well, you know,
- 16:24what would make me feel good? I would like you to write now
- 16:27book. A vacation with me.
- 16:28Be like, get out the laptop. I am ready to go rock and roll.
- 16:32Get out the laptop, get out the credit card.
- 16:34We're going to book some shit. Right now before we go to sleep
- 16:37and she look at you like you lost your mind and she will
- 16:39probably smile and laugh when she sees you're really going to
- 16:42do it and be in a very happy mood because she feels like your
- 16:46beloved special person and if she says what came over, you
- 16:50never lie. I told you this already, share
- 16:53any openness is good. Openness is so great for
- 16:56marriage is, people don't believe me but it is and they
- 16:59don't believe me until they try it.
- 17:00Then they see that it is so say I was listening to podcast and
- 17:03give us a happier man. Marriage.
- 17:05I realized that despite me loving you, you may not know
- 17:08that I love you because you know, whenever you ask me to do
- 17:10something, I always have my devil's advocate reasons why I
- 17:12shouldn't do it. So instead of doing that I want
- 17:15to tell you that I care about you deeply and that it, I value
- 17:19what you whatever it is, that makes you feel special.
- 17:21I value now don't do this. I joked around that, you know,
- 17:25she'll have more sex with you. She probably will, but don't do
- 17:28this for that, you know, remember my nice guy podcasts
- 17:32about the covert contracts beat It to be a good guy.
- 17:36Like to be a good husband. If anything, I said resonates
- 17:39with you and my analogy between her desires and your sexual
- 17:42desires resonated, then do it because now maybe finally you
- 17:45realize why she's doing some such irrational shit, like
- 17:48asking you to do stuff that. So not in your comfort zone or
- 17:52like, you know, going in an hour late to work or whatever.
- 17:55So, if this made you think, please share it with your
- 17:59partner or just try it out in the wild, like I just
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- 18:18While picking up your children before they get into the car and
- 18:22I'll talk to everybody later. Have a great day guys.