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Q&A with Lama Lena — Sep 27, 2026 · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_03: You were live.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, good morning, good afternoon, depending on where in the world you are.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's good to see you again.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is going to be our Q&A.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you'll all be thinking of weird things to ask.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Marpa Mila Gompot Sat Sapa,
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  SPEAKER_03: Na Pupadang Pal Dendrupasuk,
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  SPEAKER_03: Kargyo Lama Nam La Soluwa Debe,
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  SPEAKER_03: Hochen Lama Nam La Soluwa
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  SPEAKER_03: Debe,
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  SPEAKER_03: Drujen Lama Namla Solvadev.
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  SPEAKER_03: Kaginwari Lama Namla Solvadev.
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  SPEAKER_03: Chakya Lama Namla Solvadev.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_03: I think it might be you, Alexander.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is anyone else having trouble hearing the sound?
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  SPEAKER_03: Can you bring this just lower a little?
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  SPEAKER_03: Just a touch.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, not aimed.
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  SPEAKER_03: Up, down.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's a little bit better.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've had people come in hot with questions already.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, let's have an easy one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Start out easy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, let me find it.
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  SPEAKER_02: The more I practice Dzogchen, the less I want to go to work.
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  SPEAKER_02: What can I do about this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Is there a tantra that will free me from work while still providing me with money?
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  SPEAKER_03: No, but you can cut down on how much money you need by simplifying your life.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, how many rooms do you really need to live in?
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  SPEAKER_03: How many pairs of shoes do you really need to walk in?
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  SPEAKER_03: How many shirts?
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  SPEAKER_03: How many pairs of pants?
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  SPEAKER_03: Do you need a car or are you in a place that bicycles work
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  SPEAKER_03: or public transportation works like New York?
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  SPEAKER_03: The way to practice without having money problem is to simply need less money.
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  SPEAKER_03: Rice and beans.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe a bit of meat if you eat meat and if your body requires it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some good vegetables.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe some dairy if dairy works for your metabolism.
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  SPEAKER_03: Pickled things like cabbage and, you know, and you're good.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's not expensive.
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  SPEAKER_03: It gets expensive when you're eating out and you're buying fast food and take out
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  SPEAKER_03: to eat because you're too busy to cook because you're going to work.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's a balancing act.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you have monetary and financial ambitions such as I want to own a house,
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  SPEAKER_03: I want a this,
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  SPEAKER_03: I want a that,
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  SPEAKER_03: I want a nice car,
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  SPEAKER_03: I want kids, I want a family, well these are all very expensive things to have.
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  SPEAKER_03: So if you choose to have them and it's a choice you can make,
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  SPEAKER_03: then you have to choose to work hard To support them.
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  SPEAKER_03: This may have been why Rinpoche used to call babies samsara seeds.
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember when my granddaughter,
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  SPEAKER_03: we came to visit where she was staying with Rinpoche because we were passing through
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  SPEAKER_03: that town and she ran up to him and threw herself around.
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  SPEAKER_03: She was like four or two.
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  SPEAKER_03: Threw her arms around him, yelled, Grandpa!
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  SPEAKER_03: Because he's an older guy coming in with Grandma.
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  SPEAKER_03: And he's like, get it off me, get it off me.
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  SPEAKER_03: He likes kids, but not that young.
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  SPEAKER_03: His adopted son might have been that young.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I don't think he was ever that huggy with Tenham.
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  SPEAKER_03: Interesting,
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  SPEAKER_03: fatherly,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think Tenor might have been six or seven by the time he got him,
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  SPEAKER_03: when his parents died.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, you gotta make some choices.
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  SPEAKER_03: How simple can you make your life?
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  SPEAKER_03: How much work does it require To support that simplicity and put a bit aside for a rainy day.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Another question is I'm following all instructions concerning the preparation for dream yoga.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right within the first days I had my first lucid dream and then no more.
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  SPEAKER_02: For over three months.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Stop trying.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're pushing too hard.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's lost its juice for you.
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  SPEAKER_03: So stop for a few weeks or a month.
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  SPEAKER_03: Dream yoga, lucid dreaming tends to come in cycles.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm in a cycle of lucidity now.
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  SPEAKER_03: Whereas I'll go for a month or so when not at all lucid.
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  SPEAKER_03: It tends to run itself in cycles.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why, since I don't do anything different.
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  SPEAKER_03: But just accept that the cycles are like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And when it's stuck in a non-lucid, stop trying.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Another question is, after experiences in retreat and consultation with my Contra teacher,
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  SPEAKER_02: I have decided to focus my Dharma practice around Vajrayogini.
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  SPEAKER_02: However,
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  SPEAKER_02: Dzogchen has always made more fundamental sense to me and has helped me on a level
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  SPEAKER_02: beyond words.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to keep both completely,
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  SPEAKER_02: but I don't want to end up with two half-cooked chickens,
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  SPEAKER_02: is the way they put it there.
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  SPEAKER_02: How to walk both paths as one?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, they are one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Look, in your sadhana,
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  SPEAKER_03: The initiatory deities that give you the vase initiation,
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  SPEAKER_03: after which you become the archetype,
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  SPEAKER_03: those are the five Dhyani Buddhas of working with emotions.
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  SPEAKER_03: So what this is telling you,
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  SPEAKER_03: and she's also wearing, if you're doing Vajrayogini, it's a necklace of 51 skulls.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you're doing vajravarahi, it's a necklace of 51 moist, juicy, rotting heads.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the meaning of this is the 51 emotions, which can be seen in five categories.
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  SPEAKER_03: And those are homo sapien emotions.
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  SPEAKER_03: Among humans,
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  SPEAKER_03: That is, things that can discuss abstracts in a language,
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  SPEAKER_03: which come in many shapes.
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  SPEAKER_03: There are more than 51, 84,000, it is said.
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  SPEAKER_03: Limited to one planet, I have only met a few non-homo sapiens sentients.
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  SPEAKER_03: One of which was interestingly enough a fungus, but that's another story.
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  SPEAKER_03: What I am pointing at here is that right within your sadhana is all the aspects
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  SPEAKER_03: of Zogchen, but instead of being in English, it's in pictorial symbols.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not to throw away your emotions.
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  SPEAKER_03: That they are the life force of the Sambhogakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: That they are the five wisdoms in transformation.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they transform within your sadhana to the five initiatory deities or archetypes.
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  SPEAKER_03: At the end of your sadhana, there is a point of absorption.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's where you sit in trekkha or beyond trekkha.
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  SPEAKER_03: Once you are good at your sadhana, it's memorized, it goes smoothly, it's easy for you to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: That bit of sitting in stillness at the end should extend to at least half as long
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  SPEAKER_03: as it took to do the sadhana, if not as long as it took to do the sadhana.
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  SPEAKER_03: But don't push it unnaturally.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're supposed to let it extend as long as it does.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then you re-initiate as the archetype and walk through your life as
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  SPEAKER_03: the archetype with all sound being the mantra.
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  SPEAKER_03: This shakes you loose from your day-to-day belief systems about the meanings of
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  SPEAKER_03: the stories you tell yourself about the meanings of the sounds you hear.
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  SPEAKER_03: The stories you tell yourself about the meanings of the things you see.
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  SPEAKER_03: Once that's loose,
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  SPEAKER_03: Zogchen is an easy recognition.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you gotta get the shit loose first.
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  SPEAKER_03: So,
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  SPEAKER_03: I really don't see why you need to separate your Yidim practice and your practice
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  SPEAKER_03: of Zogchen.
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  SPEAKER_03: When it's all there in your sadhana.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Another question is,
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  SPEAKER_02: will my ADHD medication be a hindrance to Zogchin and or moving through the bardos?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you won't be taking it in the bardos because you won't be in a body.
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  SPEAKER_03: So don't worry about that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Your ADHD medication is very useful when there is a series of linear things
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  SPEAKER_03: which you need to get done.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't recommend taking it every day,
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  SPEAKER_03: but rather on those days where you are working or need to accomplish a series
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  SPEAKER_03: of linear It
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  SPEAKER_03: won't make much difference in properly done Dzogchen,
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  SPEAKER_03: for properly done Dzogchen does not depend on internal or external occurrences,
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  SPEAKER_03: such as thoughts, feelings, concentration or distractions.
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  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't depend on any of that.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you're practicing Tantra while learning the Sadhana,
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  SPEAKER_03: while memorizing it,
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  SPEAKER_03: or should while memorizing it,
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  SPEAKER_03: while learning it, you may find the ADHD medication useful for your concentration.
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  SPEAKER_03: Once you're good at it,
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  SPEAKER_03: see what's different between doing it with the medication and without the medication
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  SPEAKER_03: and see how it's different and where your preferences lie.
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  SPEAKER_03: In Dzogchen, it don't matter none.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: The question is,
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  SPEAKER_02: I was stuck with a weird yam in my Tawa practice until,
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  SPEAKER_02: due to circumstances,
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  SPEAKER_02: I stumbled upon an Ekatsadi empowerment and practice which helped.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any experiences with Ekatsadi?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's the answer, yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: One moment and I'll bring up the next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: The question is,
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  SPEAKER_02: I still have panic attacks or a huge frustration thinking that we are all trapped
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  SPEAKER_02: in samsara like in a big prison.
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  SPEAKER_02: Any advice?
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  SPEAKER_03: But you're not, dork.
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  SPEAKER_03: Samsara isn't real.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're making it up.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's like Having a really good fantasy of something and then thinking you're stuck
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  SPEAKER_03: in it and that you can't put it down and get up and go read a book or do
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  SPEAKER_03: the laundry.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing there to be trapped in.
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  SPEAKER_03: Samsara is just the other side of Nirvana.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's the one side of the piece of paper and the other side of the piece of paper,
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  SPEAKER_03: Samsara has writing on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nirvana, it doesn't have writing on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's the same piece of paper.
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  SPEAKER_03: Samsara is not something you're going to escape from because for as long
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  SPEAKER_03: as there is vitality, aliveness, There is manifestation of vitality as creativity.
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  SPEAKER_03: So stories are told,
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  SPEAKER_03: experienced, perceived, thought, felt.
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  SPEAKER_03: But they're stories.
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  SPEAKER_03: When you're reading a good book, you're not trapped in it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, it can be sometimes it's really hard to put it down.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you get late for work because you can't put it down.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or you stay up all night because you can't put it down.
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  SPEAKER_03: But if you really wanted to, you could.
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  SPEAKER_03: So...
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  SPEAKER_03: Seriously, you aren't trapped.
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  SPEAKER_03: You just think you are.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you believe the thought.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then you have feelings about the belief or the story
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  SPEAKER_03: that you're telling yourself about being trapped.
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  SPEAKER_03: And those feelings are panicky and you don't like them.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you flail around in them and make them stronger like a bug caught in a spider web
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  SPEAKER_03: or like the spider caught in its own web.
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  SPEAKER_03: And just don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_03: Notice the stories you're telling yourself.
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  SPEAKER_03: Notice yourself making them up.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just watch that happen for a while.
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  SPEAKER_03: You'd be surprised.
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  SPEAKER_03: Karmapa's last words.
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  SPEAKER_03: A sixteenth as he died.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nothing happens.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: The next question is, I grew up in a Muslim country with Muslim parents.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm Buddhist and plan to join a retreat center after finding college.
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  SPEAKER_02: How do I move forward if I know this will cause immense pain to my parents?
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't tell them.
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  SPEAKER_03: Find ways to tell it gently, not extreme.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's a part of us,
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  SPEAKER_03: especially as we go from being teenagers to adults,
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  SPEAKER_03: who wants to throw our independence back in our parents' faces and tell them all
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  SPEAKER_03: the weird shit we're doing just to shock them.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: You don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It hurts their feelings.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're better off not knowing a lot of the stuff until it's done.
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  SPEAKER_03: Further studies, you can call it further studies in comparative religion.
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  SPEAKER_03: You can call it
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  SPEAKER_03: A lot of things that might be more acceptable than a Buddhist retreat center.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know them.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're going to have to be the judge of how to handle it.
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  SPEAKER_03: One of the things about the Abrahamic religions
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  SPEAKER_03: Which is those that arose from the Middle East.
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  SPEAKER_03: The Christians, the Jews, the Muslims.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is that each one is sure that they're the only one that's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Which may make this more difficult than otherwise.
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  SPEAKER_03: Be gentle.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the only advice I can give you.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're doing their best.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: The question is about Yiddums.
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  SPEAKER_02: Aren't they real beings?
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  SPEAKER_02: But how do they help us and where do the cities come from if they're all fictional?
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  SPEAKER_03: So are you practicing Kriya Tantra or Yoga Tantra or Anuttara Tantra?
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  SPEAKER_03: I need an answer to that in order to be able to give you the answer in the context
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  SPEAKER_03: of what you're practicing.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you get back to me with an answer to that,
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  SPEAKER_03: what kind of tantra you're practicing, and I'll answer your question for you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Can you explain how the sambodakaya aspect is used in cutting through?
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  SPEAKER_03: You identify with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: You identify with the vitality,
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  SPEAKER_03: the life force,
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  SPEAKER_03: the prism that shatters the clear light nature of the dharmakaya into
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  SPEAKER_03: the multicolored forms of the nirmanakaya,
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  SPEAKER_03: Sambhogakaya, you are that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't be Nirmanakaya trying to jump into Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are Sambhogakaya
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  SPEAKER_03: with the stillness of Dharmakaya and the movement of Nirmanakaya occurring.
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  SPEAKER_03: And when you bring the two together,
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  SPEAKER_03: The yoga of dancing, stillness, and then recognize yourself as that.
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  SPEAKER_03: The three kaya arise as one and you're it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question, that was a pretty simple one.
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  SPEAKER_02: My mother is experiencing a lot of obstructions in anything she does.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is there any practice I could do to help her?
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  SPEAKER_03: Parchi Lamsa.
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  SPEAKER_03: Somewhere on YouTube I have given the loom for it.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a monlon, a recidation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Parchis are hindrances, obscurations, obstructions.
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  SPEAKER_03: Lamsel, path clearing, obstructions in path clearing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Very powerful by reciting it many, many times.
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  SPEAKER_03: If this is beyond your abilities,
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  SPEAKER_03: you can always make offerings to someone over in the old country in Sopema to monks
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  SPEAKER_03: or to yogis or to duns to have that mon lam done for you.
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  SPEAKER_03: To do that,
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  SPEAKER_03: send me an email that that's what you want to have done,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I'll get you in touch with the proper in your bus.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you say the name of that part?
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  SPEAKER_03: Parchi Lumsel.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's a copy of it in, what's that site that everything is in?
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  SPEAKER_02: Lutzawa?
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  SPEAKER_03: Lutzawa House.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: It does have a copy.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the lung is somewhere on my website or YouTube.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how those things are organized, so I'm not sure how to find it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_02: The follow-up answer to the question about the, I believe it was the Yiddums.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they are practicing Anuttara.
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  SPEAKER_03: If they're practicing Anuttara Tantra.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course they're not separate from you and individual realities.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're archetypes of energies which are part of you as Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_03: How could they be sentient beings if they're fully enlightened?
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  SPEAKER_03: Some of them have histories of being a sentient being.
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  SPEAKER_03: But upon enlightenment, sentient beingness is lost.
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  SPEAKER_03: And one is simply a Buddha of the fourth time.
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  SPEAKER_03: All sentient beings are and arise as.
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  SPEAKER_03: All Buddhas of the fourth time, and there is no differentiation.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you do working with perceptions,
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  SPEAKER_03: the dream yoga that is taught in that retreat,
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  SPEAKER_03: you may find yourself experiencing this in a dream.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's really sweet.
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  SPEAKER_03: You like it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Gin raising helps too.
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  SPEAKER_03: In Anuttara,
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  SPEAKER_03: Mahanuttara,
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  SPEAKER_03: one is quite aware that neither one's self,
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  SPEAKER_03: nor one's yidam,
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  SPEAKER_03: nor any other manifestation of life force has any real reality,
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_03: but is simply part of the dance of form and phenomena.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: And that dance is not unreal either.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's as real as you are, which is not very.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, my root guru was Kargu.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: He showed me the nature of mine, but he's died.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: The guru I want to ask to guide me now is an advanced master of Dzogchen.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: Is it okay as I feel like I wish to follow Mahamudra?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: Once you get past the beginnings, they're the same thing.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: What it is, is they have different methods to enter them.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_03: Mahamudra, real Mahamudra, not preparatory.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: And real Dzogchen, not preparatory, are exactly the same.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: However,
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: as you prepare to find them,
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: the real one, you go through different steps and practices to help you with that.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: And they're different in Maha Mudra and in Maha Adi.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: They do about the same thing.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: For instance, Trutra Naujur.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yoga of Dancing Stillness is done at one point and one way in Mahamudra.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: There are methods to help you recognize it.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: But in Maha'ati, it's done much later with different methods to help you recognize it.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_03: I have found Mahamudra to be a little bit more intellectual.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_03: And maha'ati to be a little bit more physical.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_03: Touch, roll in it, experience oriented rather than understanding oriented.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: Which is a reason that most people,
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: but not all,
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_03: but many,
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_03: Prefer the intellectual explanations that come with Mahamudra,
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: although it does not lack practices.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: They're not quite as wild and woolly as the Mahati ones.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: The question is,
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: you once referred to an easiest,
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: shortest version of Chud, That can be practiced daily by non-monastics.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: Will you please describe what that would look like?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_03: There's still a sadhana.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: For a lay Zogchen practitioner.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: There's still a sadhana.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_03: Chud is not Zogchen.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's one of the preparatories.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like Zogchen Nundro.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: So there's still a sadhana.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a short sadhana.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: You have to memorize it fully.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: It might be five minutes, ten minutes.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: And there's the use of the drum
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: and the kongling, and you need the equipment.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: So it's simply a shorter sadhana.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: Talk to, hmm, I'm not sure.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have anybody up there teaching should at the moment.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: Tenzin Wangja, Bon, October 17th and 18th online.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Different set of recitations because it's a different lineage.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: But probably really cool.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: Haven't done it in the Bon.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Cargue is usually Machig.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: Enigma is usually Troma.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_03: But there's overlaps all over the place.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not sure of the main archetype in the Bon one.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: So go take the course and find out.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: It looks like it's going to be fun.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: Tenzin Wanjil is really cool as a teacher.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: When were those dates again?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's the 17th and 18th.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: I can look it up.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, the 17th, 18th of October, mid-October, somewhere in there.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: The next question is,
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: how to work with emotions that arise in sadhana practice,
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: especially during the mantra recitation?
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: Treat them like emotions.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_03: Don't fight them.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: Just feel them.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: The emotions are the manifestation
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: of the five wisdoms within you.
• 33:29
  Oh.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Can you see that?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't have a picture of the deity on it, but yes.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I may join that.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: Let's consider it.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's in Berkeley.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: And online.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if it's online, then we can still...
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's probably doing it from...
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: I neither.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: Where was I?
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: We were talking about easiest, shortest version of Chud.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Emotions during the sadhana.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, emotions during the sadhana.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, emotions in the sadhana.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for the correction.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: So those are just the manifestation of the five wisdoms of the five Dhyani Buddhas.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: And you simply consider them as such and allow them to transform.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: For further teachings on the tantric work with that,
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: in sadhana,
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: Please see Lopan Durit,
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: who has taught classes on it and should have copies up on YouTube.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: On how you work with the five Dhyani Buddhas as the five wisdoms from
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: the five distressing emotions both within sadhana and within the tantric system
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: within life.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: Which is transformative rather than Dzogchen, which simply releases.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: In Dzogchen, you let go of something thoroughly enough that it can snap into its natural state.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: When you realize that full enlightenment is the natural state of all sentient beings
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: when they stop fighting it.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: By trying to be what they think they want to be
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: or what they think enlightenment might be or chasing wealth
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: or whatever they're chasing when they stop chasing shit and running from shit
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: and actually sit there and relax.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's right there.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to do anything except let go.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: The
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: The role of a good Zogchen teacher is to wait till you're not expecting it,
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: kick you off the cliff.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: And then when you're hanging by your fingertips from the edge of it going,
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: save me to stamp on your little fingertips.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: So you finally let go.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: As Trungpa said, the bad news
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: is that we have gone off the cliff.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_03: The good news is that there's no bottom to hit.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: See, the problem with falling from a height is not the falling.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's hitting the bottom when you finally get there.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: Free fall can actually be a lot of fun.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: The question is,
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: can a pointing out experience occur in non-conventional ways,
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: for example, while listening to a long lung transmission?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: What was the lung for?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: Bet you it had the pointing out in it.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_03: You just didn't know the language.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: I have heard of it happening
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: by some weird old lady on a bus
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: for somebody
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: who was ripe and never had any idea of what she actually thought she was doing
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: or even what she actually said.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: So when you are ripe and ready to let go,
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_03: Even a little bit.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because we tend to let go by layers.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't take that much stimulus.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: Please understand it's not that a good Zogchin teacher kicks you off the cliff on purpose.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_03: Their very existence in your vicinity,
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: regardless of what they think they're doing or you think they're doing,
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_03: will tend to have that effect of destabilizing your world.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: At which point you scream.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_03: And then sometimes you run away.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: And then you come creeping back once you've got your breath and stop screaming.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: You go, ooh, I didn't go very well that time.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: Do it again.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: And they laugh a lot.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_03: But these might be just my experiences of my own teacher.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: Your story will be the one you tell in your patterns.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: The next question is, could you give the pointing out instructions in a very condensed form?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: I will leave some bits out that you probably already know, such as how to align your channels.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_03: How to hold your mouth.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: Your shoulders.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: These armrests hurt the wrong spot on these chairs for it.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, here we go.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: No?
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: Close enough.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: The eye gaze I will mention again
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: because it is very important
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_03: as your attention tends to follow your eyeballs.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_03: Focus your eyes two meters in front of your nose straight ahead and
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_03: then let go of the focus.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_03: Allow your eyeballs to relax.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: In such a way that the peripheral vision and the central vision are equally clear,
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_03: equally blurry.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_03: In the beginning, it seems like it's blurry.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_03: Once you get used to it, neither blur nor clear would be
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_03: descriptions.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_03: Do the breathing which supports it.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_03: In-breath is shorter than the out-breath which is longer.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_03: There is a pause, a slight pause, as a rest at the end of the out-breath.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: Your body is relaxed.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_03: Your muscles are relaxed.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_03: Your eyes and your nerves are relaxed.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_03: You're still thinking.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_03: The thoughts arise made of no substance.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_03: They will not carry water.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_03: You cannot sit on them.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_03: They vanish in their arising in the same moment.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_03: So we say they lack both substance and duration.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: Look at them rather than listening to what they say.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: Just look at them and see how they do that.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_03: Now open your attention so that you're no longer focusing on the thoughts
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_03: and how they arise and vanish,
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_03: but on the background, on the space in which they arise and vanish.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: That space is named mind.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_03: The thoughts are in it.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: The word, the name mind is a thought.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_03: But there is an open spaciousness.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_03: A vast awareness.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_03: Empty of characteristics where it is neither red nor blue.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yellow nor green, neither round nor square, spherical or oblong.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: Infinity has no shape.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: Vast beyond thinking,
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_03: for the thoughts are itty-bitty things that arise and vanish in the same moment
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: within it, affecting it not whatsoever.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_03: Look past the thoughts at the infinite openness of the ground of mind,
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: empty of all characteristics,
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: not even a center or an edge,
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: vast beyond knowing.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: This is Dharmakaya nature of mind.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_03: Relax, it's your mind.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_03: As far as your imagination extends, Dharmakaya extends.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: As far as Dharmakaya extends, its natural and innate vitality of life extends.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_03: And all phenomena, the dance of arisings, Abidings and dispersings.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: Arise in that infinite vast openness.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_03: Abide for a time and dissolve there.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: And you are that.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_03: The vitality of the infinite openness, the aliveness,
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: And all the arisings within you.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_03: Relax.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing here to be afraid of.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing here to stand on.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing here to accomplish.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: And nothing here to run from.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: The entire dance of phenomena is within this.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: Arising and vanishing as stories told by thoughts which have neither substance nor duration.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: Let it happen.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_03: Don't grab, don't believe, don't disbelieve.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_03: Don't push, don't shove.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_03: Leave the three Kaya, you the three Kaya, to be exactly as it is.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_03: This is the pointing out.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_03: But you will grasp the ideas of it.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: The feeling of it.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: The perception of it.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_03: And those are phenomena dancing within it, but not it itself.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_03: So you cannot keep it.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_03: You can only return to it freshly in each moment
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_03: where it is both always the same
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_03: and never the same again.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_03: Do not try to keep this, for you cannot keep an idea, a feeling, a perception, or an experience.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_03: They move, they arise, and they vanish.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_03: Rather, again and again,
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_03: allow your attention to fall open naturally
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_03: and rest in the infinitude
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_03: and
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_03: the vast clearness, transparency, Of natural mind.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_03: Do not attempt to hold onto it.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_03: If a butterfly lands in your palm, the most important thing is not to close your fist.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_03: Therefore, this is something you relax into, not grasp.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_03: And please stop trying to stabilize it.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_03: The moving will move.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: The stillness has always been stable.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing you can do about it in all your doings and grabbings and shovings.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_03: So cut that out.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_03: It has always been this.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: It will never be other than this.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_03: The phenomena is always changing, the inner phenomena of thoughts and feelings, of perceptions.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_03: The outer phenomena of leaves and trees and weather.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_03: The phenomena moves.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: Do not attempt to stabilize anything that moves.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_03: You'll just get frustrated.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_03: Short version.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_03: Pointing out plus instructions on stabilization.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_03: You realize Dzogchen is a joke.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'll probably believe that you actually understand this when you start laughing.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: The next question is,
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: my friend died in a crash in Nepal after completing the Korra around Kailash.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: It has already been 30 days since her death.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: Is there any way to help her in the bardo?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_03: Lucky friend.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_03: She's more likely to be able to help you from there.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: 30 days until it's 49 days.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_03: Just offer light at temples in her favorite spots.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_03: Don't burn the house down by leaving lit candles going when you're not there.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_03: Use electric votives if you're not going to be there in wooden houses.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_03: We can only use lit butter lamps when we're not there in caves.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_03: They're made of rock, okay?
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_03: Woodhouses burn down, don't do it.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_02: Earlier you talked about the concept of somebody being ripe.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, what makes a person ripe?
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_03: Simplicity.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: Not fighting themselves in many places.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: Those oversensitive, high-strung, complex people
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_03: usually need a lot of ripening.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_03: That means they've got a lot of holding patterns.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_03: That they repeat, repeaters they're called, in your personality.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: You always do this.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_03: When this happens, you always do that.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_03: There are some people that simply respond to sadness by crying and to happiness by laughing.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_03: They're simple.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: They're obviously right.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking of Annie Booncho.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_03: I was not ripe when he got me.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_03: Poor Rinpoche.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_02: One question is,
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: my grandchildren,
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_02: seven years old,
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: are beginning to say a lot of lies or confusing reality with fantasy.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: Apart from this, everything else seems to be okay.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_02: Can you tell me something about it?
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's normal for that age.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a good age to teach them Dzogchen.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think you don't confuse reality with fantasy
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_03: and lie to yourself?
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: Good Lord, woman.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's what sentient beings do.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_03: Nothing is the way you think it is.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: You're making it up.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_03: Whether it's a unicorn or a piece of office politics, you are making it up.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_03: Don't scooch the kid's imagination.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's normal for that age.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_03: Imaginary playmates.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: Goddesses that live in bushes.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_03: Monsters that live underneath certain trees.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_03: And it's perfectly real to them.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: I had a flying ostrich at that age.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_03: I went all over the world on it.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_03: He'd never convinced me that that was an ordinary upside-down tree stump.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_03: And the roots that were just looking like an ostrich with a long neck.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: This is why they jump off the garage roof with an umbrella.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: And have no fear of climbing the tallest tree.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_03: They're not sure yet that they can't fly.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_03: Aside from trying to keep them alive, don't worry about it.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_03: And do set a place for the imaginary playmate.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_03: They're important.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: The question is,
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_02: how can I work with the thinking mind's habit of constantly trying to project
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_02: an idea of empty,
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_02: luminous appearances onto my experience when I'm practicing traction?
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_03: Laugh at it.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's your answer.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_03: Just laugh at it.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know it's a projection.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's arising in mind and dissolving in mind.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's not mind.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: Mind is much more ordinary.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: Also, the reason it looks glowy is because your eyes dilate.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: When you hold your eyeballs still and take away the point focus,
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_03: one of the side effects is that your pupils will dilate
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: and everything looks brighter and people think that's clear light.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's your eyeballs.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_03: Really, you're not going to find something that makes your eyes bug out
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_03: and your jaw drop off open.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I'm going to find something that gives you a good giggle at the most.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's ordinary.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_03: And the moving is not going to stop moving and dancing.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_03: You will continue to feel heat and cold and have other physical sensations,
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_03: some of them quite intense, like when you die.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_03: That gets really intense at times.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes it even hurts.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_03: Unless you know how to not call it that.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Inside.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't stop.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: Telling yourself stories about what's going on also doesn't stop.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_03: Believing them does.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, I really struggle to meditate with my eyes open.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_02: If I relax the focus of my gaze,
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_02: I feel that I have to force it to stay like that, otherwise it goes back to normal.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_02: What else can I do?
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what's normal for you.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_03: Did you begin and learn to meditate with your eyes closed in the beginning
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_03: and condition yourself to that?
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want to hold them wide open.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_03: Start with having them half closed.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_03: And don't forget to blink.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_03: When someone's eyes are truly relaxed, like they're unconscious in surgery, they're half open.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_03: They have to tape them closed so they don't dry out because the blink reflex is gone.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_03: So whenever you go into surgery, they tape your eyes closed.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_03: Afterwards, you know, find sticky stuff on your eyes.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's if you're going to go into profound unconsciousness where they intubate you.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_03: So truly relaxed eyes are half open.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's why they put pennies on the dead.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_03: Man's eyes to close them, to hold them closed.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_03: Because having a corpse looking at you seems to bother people.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, how does the Pu'er tea affect the channels?
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: When I drink tea, my perception changes a lot.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_03: Pu'er is good for the heart channel.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_03: In Chinese medicine, It's very enjoyable and it tastes similar to the Tibetan tea.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: Although the Tibetans,
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_03: the Chinese press the good leaves of the Pu'er into cakes for the Chinese and
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_03: then press the twigs and the shlifof into cakes that they sell to the Tibetans.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_03: Ladaki tea is different.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's a beautiful orange-red color.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_03: I must try to get some.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_03: What I'm trying to let you know is...
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't specifically open the channels or close them, but it is somewhat relaxing to them.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_03: And it does open the heart channel, which is probably the most important one, the Pu'er.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_03: However, it can cause problems when drunk too much.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: Or too strong.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_03: So usually you drink a nice strong cup of it or two in the morning and then you go to hot water.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_03: And then around tea time you might have another cup to revive you.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_03: Treat it like coffee.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_03: I believe it's a high caffeine tea also.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_03: The Tibetans drink it salted
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_03: Which may also add to the blood pressure issues that they get from it sometimes.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_03: But Tibetans get blood pressure problems at low altitude.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_03: They're just not suited.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_03: So enjoy your Pu-erh, but with moderation.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_02: One moment.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_02: In answer to your previous question about the eyes during meditation,
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_02: they started off learning with the eyes closed.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_03: You've got to break the habit.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_03: They should be half open.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_03: Look at me.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_03: This is the Dzogchen case.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_03: Got it?
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_03: Not this.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_03: Not this.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_03: This.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, next.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, I'm practicing Dzogchen.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_02: I associated with close friends and I'm now very into Krishna consciousness too.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_02: However, both teachings are very different sides.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_02: Is having both of them a problem?
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_03: Krishna consciousness, if done properly, is the teachings of Bodhicitta.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_03: If it doesn't lead to Bodhicitta, it's not being done properly.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_03: The regular practice of Dzogchen can tip over into too much Shunyata.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_03: Remember we're talking about the middle way.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_03: So you want to balance the sun and the moon.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_03: You want to balance the red and the white.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_03: You want to balance the
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_03: Emptiness of sunyata
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: with the loving vitality of bodhisitta
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_03: and recognize
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_03: that they come together as one thing.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_03: That's all the yidams that are standing there with a consort in their lap.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_03: And that's all the yidams standing there with a Trident,
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_03: which just symbolizes the consort.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, I've done trekshed for some years.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_02: I started getting a kind of mass of emotion, although not unpleasant, when I relaxed.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm on HRT, recently got on progesterone, which messes with proper posture.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_02: Advice.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_03: Why would your progesterone mess with proper posture?
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_03: This makes no sense to me.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm on HRT, too.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_02: Unless it's a different condition they meant to put in here.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_02: Progesterone.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't see how it would mess with your posture.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_03: The only thing I can think of is sometimes the labia grows larger,
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_03: at which point you have to tuck it in your underwear a bit
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_03: so you can sit comfortably.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you're going to ask her.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_03: I can't think of any other thing, so my answer would be, tuck it in your underwear.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_03: Unless you want to give me more details,
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_03: I think I'll go on to the next question because I don't have more answers.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, my son is a teenager.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's feeling down and says that being kind to others makes him go unnoticed,
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_02: that his classmates don't even remember his name.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_02: What advice would you give him?
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_03: This is a normal teenage exaggeration of the story.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_03: I wonder what he thinks is being kind to others.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_03: I would first ask him that.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_03: How are you being kind to others?
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_03: What's the exact actions that you are doing in kindness?
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: As I remember in my school times,
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_03: it was quite noticeable when somebody was kind to me.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_03: So you have to be kind to the We are nerds in the out-group.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: The in-group won't notice you.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_03: So being kind to the in-group, well, they just think it's their due.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_03: Practice it on the out-group without showing any desire to be a member of the in-group.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_03: And after a while,
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_03: they're going to want to know you because they're going to have notice
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_03: that you're awfully nice to have around.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_03: Unless you have a particularly nasty in-group,
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_03: in which case stay the fuck away from those guys.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_03: They're icky.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_03: And when you see them after you grow up, you're going to see how icky they are.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_03: And they're probably not going to grow up.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_03: They're probably going to think that high school was the best years of their life
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_03: when they're 42 with a potbelly selling used cars.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, it was.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_03: You don't ever want your teen years to be the best years of your life.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_03: You want now to be the best years of your life every time you check and see.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_03: Including when you're old and decrepit.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's the only way to have fun.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, that's the best I can do for that.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_03: Find out how he's doing it and see if you can give some advice in how else it might be done.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, is there a difference between intuition or insight and a thought?
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_02: My insights come as thoughts,
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_02: but do prompt immediate action, for example, like dodging an unseen car.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Are they distinct or just part of flow?
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_03: They're part of flow.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_03: Generally, in Tibetan, they're called ngoshi.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_03: They happen more the less you listen to the thoughts.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_03: And you will notice if you actually pay attention, those aren't thoughts that they come as.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_03: You turn them into thoughts by thinking about them the moment you felt them,
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_03: but they don't come as thoughts.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_03: A subtle something else.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_03: Pay attention and notice next time how long it takes you to make a thought or wrap
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_03: the insight in a thought, which is going to be really fast.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_03: And then see if you can not.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:11:59
  Let's see.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_02: Any advice for someone that has ADHD?
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_02: Started practicing 10 years ago,
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_02: but constantly dropping off due to this, plus having a child now.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Any grounding practices that can help with consistency?
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_03: Short sessions.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Depending on how old the kid is, pottery for both of you.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Especially wheel work.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know your circumstances.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: But if they are such that you and the kid can join a little pottery class,
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_03: if your kid's like seven or older,
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_03: if they're little, well, I guess it's Play-Doh, or FIMO.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_03: FIMO is fun to play with.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_03: And you can bake it in the toaster oven and make things.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_03: But when you finally go to working with real clay that gets taken to a kiln
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's very,
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_03: very grounding,
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_02: both for you
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_02: and the kid
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_03: who will make remarkably ugly things that you'll have
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_03: to keep forever.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_03: Depends on how old the kid is.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_03: There's not much you can do while you've got a kid, except for practicing in short sessions.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_03: If your practice is Dzogchen or Trekcha, then Dugam.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_03: Kid won't interfere with that.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_03: So very short sessions.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_03: More of them, but very short.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_03: In between all the transitions during the day,
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_03: Sit with your channels in alignment.
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Let your mind see itself for a minute or so, maybe two.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_03: That is, in the car after you've dropped the kid off at school.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_03: In the car waiting for the kid to come out of school.
• 1:14:55
  SPEAKER_03: After you put them to bed.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_03: After you give them dinner if you don't have to feed them anymore
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_03: if they're old enough to feed themselves.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_03: There's all these little in between as you go from one activity to another.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_03: After you switch the laundries.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_03: After you fold the laundry.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_03: Before you start on The vacuuming or the next thing that needs doing,
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_03: take that one or two minutes.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's the best way to practice for one with ADD.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_03: Gum is the best way to practice for one with a little one.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_03: As they get bigger and are in school more, you can go further with practice.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_03: But when you choose to have a kid that In and of itself,
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_03: raising the kid has got to be your main practice.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_02: One of our Russian viewers asks,
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_02: in Zogchan there are instructions on investigating external phenomena,
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_02: such as individual manifestations.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_02: How does one arrive at such as a realization?
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds like Bon Zogchen, which has a more intellectual approach.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_03: In the Nyingma Zogchen,
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_03: the way we investigate external phenomenon and internal phenomena,
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_03: all phenomena, is to simply determine whether it's still or moving.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_03: He spent a long time figuring that out.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Now, that's Mahamudra.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_03: In Dzogchen, that comes later.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what you're referring to in the Nyingma line.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_03: It was not...
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'd need to know more about what you're naming that,
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_03: because it doesn't dovetail with any of the teachings I've had by that name.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_03: But of course we're going between languages and that's your translation to English
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_03: or someone's translation to English of whatever it was called in Russian.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm wondering what it was called in Tibetan or in
• 1:17:43
  SPEAKER_03: the standard Tibetan English translations, which I'm not even that familiar with.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_03: So more information for that answer.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, do you see taking refuge in Yang Junban and Vajrayana as equal and equivalent?
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_02: If I feel deeply connected to both, should I take refuge in both?
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_03: I would take refuge in
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_03: if they feel like two different things to you.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Take refuge in both of them.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_03: If they feel like the same thing to you,
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_03: take refuge in whichever one is most convenient and consider its refuge in
• 1:18:41
  SPEAKER_03: the other.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_03: A Jungdrenbon
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_03: and a Nyindu, both,
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_03: by their own Path, which is just method.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_03: The methods are slightly different to the enigma, which is slightly different to the kargu.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_03: But that's just the method, not where it goes.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_03: The fruition is exactly the same.
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_03: No difference.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's unfortunate that Some of the valid Zogchen lineages among the Native Americans.
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 1:19:31
  SPEAKER_03: it existed among the Cherokee,
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_03: lost in the Trail of Tears, the lineage holders didn't survive.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_03: It is remembered that it existed, but no one is living who holds that lineage, Crow Lodge.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_03: So it's not even only Buddhist and Mahayana.
• 1:19:59
  SPEAKER_03: It was in other places by other names.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_03: Sogchen isn't a religion.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_03: Sogchen is itself a path
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_03: which may be accessed from anywhere,
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_03: or so I have been taught.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_03: The methods are designed for Mahayana Buddhist Tibetans
• 1:20:36
  SPEAKER_03: so ex-Christians may require some adaptation
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_03: but you can't adapt too far
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_03: or it remains within the Christian ideas
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_03: which may or may not Have complete lineage.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_03: See, lineage is really important.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_03: There are people out there who are attempting to teach Dzogchen and Dzogchen
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_03: without holding lineage.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_03: This is called hairy eyeball.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_03: Personally, I would not be comfortable without lineage.
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's vitally important.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_03: But that might be just me.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_03: And might not be actually anything true.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_03: Might be a story.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_03: So you'll have to see for yourself if you choose to follow something without lineage.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_03: When you get to the end of it, did it work?
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, is there any protection against energy vampirism during sleep?
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's either sleep paralysis or waking up in a lucid dream with a being trying to frighten me.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_02: I tried sending love, but it won't work.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_03: Laugh at it.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_03: How did you get yourself involved with something?
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_03: What did you do?
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_03: Talk to something with teeth?
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_03: In the shaman's path.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_03: Which I have walked on, but not thoroughly completed.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_03: There are beings which can be troublesome.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_03: If you are able to allow your awareness to encompass the clear light nature of emptiness.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_03: They're allergic to the clear light.
• 1:23:23
  SPEAKER_03: They don't like the light.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_03: If you laugh at them and you really mean it, then they cannot be a problem.
• 1:23:40
  SPEAKER_03: In reality, they're not separate from you.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_03: So in the shaman's path,
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_03: just as in Kriya Yoga,
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_03: other entities are seen as separate and one deals with them in different ways.
• 1:24:06
  SPEAKER_03: Chud would solve your problem.
• 1:24:11
  SPEAKER_03: So if you have a problem with this being either lucid or having something trying
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_03: to suck your energy, learn Chud.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_03: It would fix the karma that's causing this.
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_03: A shaman must face all their fears.
• 1:24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Otherwise, they sneak up on you when you're trying to do healing work and get in the way.
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_03: So, a Zogchenpa
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_03: Can only laugh.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_03: Have you ever tried giving it what it wants?
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_03: Not love that you want to give it, but whatever it wants.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_03: Allowing it to eat you.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_03: That's should.
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_03: Learn how to do it safely.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_03: And that will solve your problems.
• 1:25:26
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:25:28
  SPEAKER_02: The next question is,
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_02: can you touch on the Iron Dog Year prophecies and what practices we can do to dispel
• 1:25:38
  SPEAKER_02: or avert
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_03: it?
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_03: No, you need to talk to a shaman or an astrologer about that.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's...
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_03: Not within my studies.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, my outer inner space merged.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_02: Me, in quotes, shares the same texture of 3D reality.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Cognitive awareness gave way to a quieter awareness than being without self.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the right path?
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_02: Do I just stay as being?
• 1:26:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:26:39
  SPEAKER_03: However, do not expect this to last.
• 1:26:42
  SPEAKER_03: This is a nyam.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_03: How do I know?
• 1:26:46
  SPEAKER_03: It has occurred.
• 1:26:47
  SPEAKER_03: It has not always been like this for you.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_03: So if this had a beginning in time, I assure you it will have an end.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_03: You sit there with this like you do with any nyam and you don't grab or shove
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_03: or you strike it with pet,
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_03: the seed syllable done properly while looking directly at it so that
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_03: if you're successful in popping it,
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_03: The reality of which it was a pale reflection is directly behind it.
• 1:27:29
  SPEAKER_03: I've always found it more powerful and effective to simply not grab, not shove.
• 1:27:37
  SPEAKER_03: And pet has seemed like a bit of a shove to me in these later years.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_03: But give both a try and see how it goes.
• 1:27:52
  SPEAKER_03: If you do not grab this or make any attempt to maintain it,
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_03: simply allow it to fulfill its course.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_03: It is part of the display.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like Maro's daughters.
• 1:28:12
  SPEAKER_03: You get the sons next.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_03: Don't grab the daughters.
• 1:28:18
  SPEAKER_03: Don't run from the sons.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_03: Just sit there.
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_03: Let it unwind.
• 1:28:27
  SPEAKER_03: Let it do its thing.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_02: Next.
• 1:28:34
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, what's your opinion on dark meditation?
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_03: Opinion.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's excellent if you do it properly,
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_03: which involves the teachings on how to do it properly and 49 days of dark retreat.
• 1:28:53
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's pointless if you just piss around at it.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_03: If you're going to do a practice, do the practice.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_03: Do it as instructed by the teacher who has done it,
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_03: who knows how to do it, and who can teach you that.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_03: Find a teacher who's done the full 49 days with the different things you do during
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_03: that time and can teach them to you and then send you in there.
• 1:29:39
  SPEAKER_03: Not me.
• 1:29:39
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't done it.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Heard about it.
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_03: No people.