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- 0:09Speaker 1: Everyone, Welcome to another edition of Wisdom Wednesdays. And today
- 0:14Speaker 1: is a very special day because it is the fifth
- 0:17Speaker 1: birthday of the podcast. I could not believe it. I
- 0:20Speaker 1: actually thought I'd been doing it for about three years
- 0:23Speaker 1: and I just checked and it's actually five years, which
- 0:26Speaker 1: is crazy. So thank you to you, my listeners, because
- 0:30Speaker 1: you're the guys that keep me doing this by listening
- 0:33Speaker 1: in every week. And it would be great, a great
- 0:37Speaker 1: birthday present for the podcast if you wouldn't mind jumping
- 0:41Speaker 1: on to your favorite podcast player, whether it's Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
- 0:45Speaker 1: or whatever and leaving a review, because reviews actually really
- 0:49Speaker 1: really helped the podcast to get up the charts, and
- 0:53Speaker 1: that helps for a whole heap of reasons that I'm
- 0:56Speaker 1: not really going to go into right now, but let's
- 1:00Speaker 1: on with the podcast. This week, we are going to
- 1:03Speaker 1: talk about something that I think is both fascinating and
- 1:07Speaker 1: super important for anybody that's interested in our long term health. Now,
- 1:11Speaker 1: we all know that carrying too much body fat can
- 1:15Speaker 1: be bad for your health, but we all know that
- 1:17Speaker 1: obesity is linked to a whole host of chronic diseases.
- 1:21Speaker 1: But here's the kicker. Not all fat is created equal,
- 1:26Speaker 1: where fat is stored in your body has a massive
- 1:29Speaker 1: impact on how dangerous it is. And you may already
- 1:33Speaker 1: know about some stuff such as visceral fat, which is
- 1:36Speaker 1: the fat that is underneath your stomach muscles and around
- 1:39Speaker 1: your organ You may know that that is a bad
- 1:43Speaker 1: or really bad fat. But even more interestingly, recent research
- 1:48Speaker 1: has shown that fat that builds up inside your muscles,
- 1:53Speaker 1: called intermuscular fat or imat, might be a very significant
- 1:59Speaker 1: play in the development of insulin resistance, type two diabetes,
- 2:04Speaker 1: chronic kidney disease, and other metabolic diseases, and even physical
- 2:09Speaker 1: decline as we age. So let's break that all down. Firstly,
- 2:14Speaker 1: let's do a quick recap on visceral fat, which has
- 2:17Speaker 1: been the usual suspect for many, many years. And as
- 2:21Speaker 1: I said, it's the stuff you can't pinch. It's underneath
- 2:24Speaker 1: your stomach muscles, it's around your organs, inside your abdominal cavity,
- 2:29Speaker 1: and it's long been known to be a major risk
- 2:31Speaker 1: factor for metabolic disease. And unlike the fact that you
- 2:35Speaker 1: can pinch under your skin, which is known as subcutaneous fat,
- 2:39Speaker 1: visceral fat is more metabolically active and more dangerous. It's
- 2:45Speaker 1: actually been called an endocrine organ because it produces its
- 2:51Speaker 1: own hormones called arapokins. It also releases inflammatory substances, and
- 2:57Speaker 1: it floods the liver with fatty acids which to interfere
- 3:00Speaker 1: with blood sugar control and your cholesterol levels. And it's
- 3:04Speaker 1: linked long linked with insulin resistance taptoo, diabetes, heart disease,
- 3:08Speaker 1: and even dementia. The good news is that visceral fat
- 3:12Speaker 1: tends to respond well to lifestyle changes. Things like regular exercise,
- 3:17Speaker 1: better sleep, and cutting back on shit food all help
- 3:21Speaker 1: to reduce it. But more recently, researchers have turned their
- 3:25Speaker 1: attention to this other type of fat that may be
- 3:29Speaker 1: even sneakier because it's hiding in places we don't normally look,
- 3:33Speaker 1: which is inside our muscles. Now here's where the research
- 3:37Speaker 1: gets a bit nuanced. You might have heard the term
- 3:41Speaker 1: before intra muscular fat and immediately thought, m that's gotta
- 3:47Speaker 1: be bad, But it's not always bad. It turns out
- 3:51Speaker 1: that there are two million types of fat that show
- 3:53Speaker 1: up in muscle. One is intra mile cellular lipets or ims.
- 4:00Speaker 1: These are tiny droplets of fat inside your muscle sells themselves.
- 4:06Speaker 1: And then the other one is intermuscular at a post
- 4:09Speaker 1: tissue or IMAT. That's larger fat sales that are between
- 4:14Speaker 1: the muscle fibers and the fascia that holds those fibers together. Now,
- 4:19Speaker 1: the first one, the imcl those little droplets of fat
- 4:23Speaker 1: inside the muscle sales. That's actually normally. In fact, it's
- 4:27Speaker 1: been known for quite a few years that athletes often
- 4:31Speaker 1: have higher levels of this type of fat, and it's
- 4:34Speaker 1: because they burn it as a fuel source during exercise.
- 4:39Speaker 1: So with that regular training, the body adapts by folk
- 4:44Speaker 1: storing it close to the muscle so that it's easily
- 4:47Speaker 1: accessible fuel for muscles that are contracting and need energy.
- 4:51Speaker 1: And that's pretty cool, and this is known as the
- 4:54Speaker 1: athletes paradox. Fit. People can have more intramuscular fat in
- 5:00Speaker 1: inside their muscle sales, but they are still very insulin sensitive.
- 5:04Speaker 1: They don't have diabetes, and it's because they use that
- 5:07Speaker 1: fat efficiently, and the body's just very clever because it's going, hey,
- 5:12Speaker 1: you're doing lots of exercise, so I'm going to store
- 5:15Speaker 1: energy as close to possible to the muscles so that
- 5:18Speaker 1: you can have it straight on hand. Now, the second
- 5:21Speaker 1: type of fat that I'm at the intermuscular out of
- 5:24Speaker 1: post tissue. That's where you've start to see trouble. It,
- 5:28Speaker 1: as I've said, builds up between muscle fibers, and it's
- 5:31Speaker 1: a bit like marbling in a steak, right. It's not
- 5:36Speaker 1: used for fuel like IMCL. Instead, it tends to accumulate
- 5:41Speaker 1: in people who are sedentary, people who are overweight, and
- 5:44Speaker 1: people who have insulin resistance. Now, what's concerning about i'm
- 5:49Speaker 1: at is that it appears to interfere with muscle function.
- 5:53Speaker 1: So unlike the other one, which helps the muscle, this
- 5:57Speaker 1: imat actually impis the muscle. It increases inflammation, and it
- 6:03Speaker 1: drives insulin resistance. So not only does it empower how
- 6:06Speaker 1: your muscles work, but also impers your metabolism and increases
- 6:11Speaker 1: your risk of developing metabolic disease. And unlike visceral fat,
- 6:16Speaker 1: i'm at is often overlooked. You won't see it on
- 6:19Speaker 1: a scale or on BMI, and you won't even see
- 6:22Speaker 1: it in a DEXA scan. And if you're a regular
- 6:25Speaker 1: listener to this podcast, you'll know that I am a
- 6:27Speaker 1: big fan of a DEXA scan because not only do
- 6:30Speaker 1: they show your bunk density, they show you the amount
- 6:32Speaker 1: of muscle that you have. They also show the amount
- 6:35Speaker 1: of visceral fat that you have. It turns out that
- 6:38Speaker 1: i'm AT only turns up in MRI scans or CT scans,
- 6:43Speaker 1: and that's where researchers are now seeing a very clear
- 6:46Speaker 1: association between higher i'm AT levels and poorer blood sugar control,
- 6:52Speaker 1: even after accounting for other fat stores like belly fat.
- 6:57Speaker 1: And in one twenty twenty through three review, researchers noted
- 7:01Speaker 1: that intermuscular fat is strongly correlated with insulin resistance, and
- 7:07Speaker 1: even worse, it's appears that it interferes with how muscles
- 7:12Speaker 1: regenerate and function as we age, So it's not just
- 7:16Speaker 1: a metabolic issue, it's a physical one too. And then
- 7:20Speaker 1: think about this, This is just a nasty, vicious loop.
- 7:24Speaker 1: If it's impairing our insulin resistance and then it's interfering
- 7:29Speaker 1: with our muscles. Muscle is the biggest gluco sink. It's
- 7:33Speaker 1: the thing that stops you becoming insulin resistant when you're
- 7:37Speaker 1: using it. So if it's then interfering with our muscle functions,
- 7:41Speaker 1: then your insulin resistance gets worse and that has a
- 7:44Speaker 1: negative effect. Then you get more of this intermuscular fat
- 7:47Speaker 1: around a nasty, vicious cycle. So what's the takeaway. Well,
- 7:52Speaker 1: while there's been a long focus on visceral fat, and
- 7:54Speaker 1: rightly so, i'm at, it appears might be just as important,
- 8:00Speaker 1: especially for people with obesity, type two diabetes or scarcopania
- 8:04Speaker 1: that aids related muscle loss. And while it's a new
- 8:08Speaker 1: area of research, it does suggest that we shouldn't be
- 8:11Speaker 1: thinking about fat as a number on a scale. Where
- 8:15Speaker 1: the fat is stored and how your body is using
- 8:18Speaker 1: it really matters. Visceral fat drives liver dysfunction and inflammation,
- 8:24Speaker 1: imat interferes with muscle function and insulin sensitivity. Subcutaneous fat
- 8:30Speaker 1: the stuff you can pinch, it is the least harmful.
- 8:34Speaker 1: So what do we do with all of this? Well,
- 8:36Speaker 1: the good news is that the strategies for reducing visceral
- 8:41Speaker 1: fat actually work with i'm at as well. So the
- 8:45Speaker 1: first one is exercised and especially both in resistance training
- 8:50Speaker 1: and high intensity interval training. They help to reduce fat
- 8:54Speaker 1: infiltration in the muscle and improves muscle quality as well
- 8:59Speaker 1: as reduced visceral fat. And then a diet low in
- 9:04Speaker 1: you've guessed that it ultra processed foods, refined carbs, added sugars,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and crabby foods with things like a multifiers and flavor
- 9:14Speaker 1: enhancers and preservatives. They, if you reduce them, will reduce
- 9:19Speaker 1: your overall fat and keep insulin sensitivity in check. And
- 9:24Speaker 1: then it's about prioritizing sleep. Poor sleep is very strongly
- 9:29Speaker 1: linked to fat accumulation in both visceral areas in the
- 9:33Speaker 1: belly and in the muscles. And then it's about tracking
- 9:37Speaker 1: your muscle mass, not just fat mass. This is about
- 9:41Speaker 1: lifting heavy shit because strong, healthy muscle helps protect you
- 9:47Speaker 1: against these effects and a whole host of other chronic diseases. Remember,
- 9:53Speaker 1: it's not the fat that's the enemy. It's the dysfunctional
- 9:57Speaker 1: fat in the wrong places. Next time you hear somebody
- 10:01Speaker 1: saying just lose we it, remind them it's not just
- 10:04Speaker 1: about how much fat you have, it's where you carry it,
- 10:08Speaker 1: and that visceral fat and the intermuscular fat the i'm at.
- 10:12Speaker 1: These are the twin drivers of metabolic dysfunction and many
- 10:17Speaker 1: lifestyle diseases. So that's it for this week, folks, catch
- 10:20Speaker 1: you next time.